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Frozen In Ice 23:53 06-24-2010
I'm going to have to go with Vote: Beskar. I feel that if we even have only a fair chance a getting a mafia out of this whole Pinman v. Beskar, we have to take it.

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Beskar 00:17 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Frozen In Ice:
I'm going to have to go with Vote: Beskar. I feel that if we even have only a fair chance a getting a mafia out of this whole Pinman v. Beskar, we have to take it.
So, to do this, you would want to kill the one which isn't a mafia or even being accused of being a mafia?

Also, I would like to remind people of Netherworld, regardless of any results correct or otherwise, the investigator was the mafia. This is more relevance since in a seemingly large game there is only 1-2 kills, usually in a large game, you are looking at 3-4. This implies the Mafia has other abilities.

This is also a relevant point, considering Pinman is not claiming to be Fox or part of the Starfox team. As it has been brought up before, "Joe Smuck" getting a very powerful ability. Also, consider that one of the people working for Star Fox is also voting for Pinman, therefore, he isn't a member of the Starfox team.

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Chaotix 00:39 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
So, to do this, you would want to kill the one which isn't a mafia or even being accused of being a mafia?
>Implying Wolf isn't anti-town.

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Pinman 00:44 06-25-2010
As I noted earlier, his attempts to do that, while still refusing to admit he is Star Wolf, are highly amusing.

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Beskar 00:48 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
>Implying Wolf isn't anti-town.
Also, I quoted the host twice, where he said:

1) Everyone, town and neutral, are working agains the Big Bad (s).
2) Where the Host said Wolf is after the Big Bad.

= Fact, not an assumption.

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Chaotix 00:53 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
1) Everyone, town and neutral, are working agains the Big Bad (s).
Originally Posted by :
working agains the Big Bad (s).
Originally Posted by :
Big Bad (s).
Originally Posted by :
(s)
>Implying Wolf cannot possibly be a "Big Bad".

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Beskar 00:59 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
>Implying Wolf cannot possibly be a "Big Bad".

Erm, Wolf isn't the Big Bad or is a Big Bad. Since the host explicitly said Wolf is against the Big Bad in the write-up, it is impossible for him to actually be against himself, is it?

Stop pulling rabbits out of your magic hole.



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Chaotix 02:01 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:

Erm, Wolf isn't the Big Bad or is a Big Bad. Since the host explicitly said Wolf is against the Big Bad in the write-up, it is impossible for him to actually be against himself, is it?

Stop pulling rabbits out of your magic hole.

>Implying you didn't understand what I meant by that statement.
>Implying Wolf cannot possibly be an additional Big Bad who is pitted against the other one.


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Beskar 02:05 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Chaotix:
>Implying you didn't understand what I meant by that statement.
>Implying Wolf cannot possibly be an additional Big Bad who is pitted against the other one.
Chaotix = Talking out of his behind.

Do the town a favour and refrain from posting again, instead of nonsense. All you are doing is confusing people and spamming the thread.

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TheFlax 02:06 06-25-2010
This is degenerating in some pretty nonconstructive dialogue guys.

I think its pretty clear who will be lynched in three hours. We'll see what comes of that.

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Double A 02:07 06-25-2010
Double A = here
confused = very yes

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miotas 02:20 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Stuck in Pi:
I think I missed something here. Why exactly am I being lynched?
Because everyone forgot that No Lynch was an option.

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Beskar 02:34 06-25-2010
Actually, I just discovered something very disturbing, to illustrate this, am I going to ask Falco (Romanic) a question directly in here.

Falco said earlier that both me and Pinmen are viable choices. This in-line with scumtells and information I have recieved.

So I will ask this.

Falco, is Pinmen a good lynch choice?

(because I cannot ask privately for obvious reasons)

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Romanic 02:41 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Actually, I just discovered something very disturbing, to illustrate this, am I going to ask Falco (Romanic) a question directly in here.

Falco said earlier that both me and Pinmen are viable choices. This in-line with scumtells and information I have recieved.

So I will ask this.

Falco, is Pinmen a good lynch choice?
Just like I said, any of you two is a good lynch in my eyes, to clarify this situation. What I don't want is to lynch someone else and see this scenario come back on day 5.

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TheFlax 02:43 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by miotas:
Because everyone forgot that No Lynch was an option.
No Lynch is a terrible choice at Day 4. When in doubt better lynch an unknown lurker, because it is nearly impossible to get a read on them by thread information. Stuck in Pi was chosen more or less at random from the people with the less posts in this thread.

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Beskar 02:54 06-25-2010
Alright then, I will be clear and straight to the point.

I am Star Wolf, I am a neutral power-role investigator.

My ability is to be able to check the ships, which Pizza said to me OOC to be the best investigation ability in the game, and the only one to check the Big Bad.

This is how I also know the set-up of the game intimately. The set-up is two town factions, the Cornerians and Vemonians with their respective power-roles Star-Fox and Star-Wolf. Our collective mission is to stop the big bad. I also know from this, that Team Star Wolf are in contact with eachother, so is Team Star Fox.

I got a scum-reading on Pinmen, hence I started my accusations against him. When he said he investigated me, I instantly knew he wasn't a starfox member, and was akin to Netherwold where Sigurd was a mafia investigator.

He claim pleaing to me in private to stop, and through TheFlax. TheFlax was convinced he might be StarFox or a member of the team, so I decided to the truce. The idea of the truce was for me to investigate Pinmen to work out his true alignment.

Obviously, lots of people understood this, and either abstained, no lynched, etc, with possible Bad guys, claiming I was some anti-town role.

More information kept coming my way, especially as Starfox team was in complete confusion over the incident, knowing that Pinman isn't a member of Starfox (or even the town), however, as I am Wolf, they weren't sure how to proceed.

Anyway, in short -

Pinman is a Big Bad Aligned Mafia Investigator

Killing me will prove nothing, you can always kill me tomorrow, but he isn't a member of StarFox or a pro-town. He needs to be stopped.

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Beskar 02:56 06-25-2010
unvote; vote: Pinman

If Falco says he is a good lynch choice, then he is obviously not a pro-town member.

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wideyedwanderer 02:56 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Actually, I just discovered something very disturbing, to illustrate this, am I going to ask Falco (Romanic) a question directly in here.

Falco said earlier that both me and Pinmen are viable choices. This in-line with scumtells and information I have recieved.

So I will ask this.

Falco, is Pinmen a good lynch choice?

(because I cannot ask privately for obvious reasons)
I may be new to mafia games and this site, but I would think, with Falco being dead, him giving his opinion on a lynch would be against the rules?

Nevertheless, I stand by my vote for Pinman. I definitely agree that between Pinman and Beskar, one of them has to go this round. Pinman, out of nowhere, just as he's going to be lynched, announces that he knows the identity of Starwolf, or some crazy story like that? It just seems a bit...convinient, stretched, and suspicious, IMO.

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Askthepizzaguy 03:00 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by wideyedwanderer:
I may be new to mafia games and this site, but I would think, with Falco being dead, him giving his opinion on a lynch would be against the rules?
He's allowed to give his opinion on who is guilty or innocent.

If he had an investigative ability, he cannot reveal the results of that, or hint.

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wideyedwanderer 03:02 06-25-2010
As I was typing my last post, Beskar went ahead and revealed himself as Starwolf. He claims to be neutral, and he could very well be, but I clearly remember from playing Star Fox 64 all my battles with Star Wolf... I still think voting for Pinman is the best choice right now, since he seems to be the bigger immediate threat, but after that, we'll have to decide what to do with the big bad wolf.

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Pinman 03:03 06-25-2010
unvote; vote: Beskar

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Pinman 03:04 06-25-2010
Obviously I can now tell you absolutely that Beskar is lying - and is anti -town.

EDIT: Beskar told the Flax that he had an ability to recognize Star Fox - and that he therefore knows I am Star Fox. Flax can confirm this.
Please note I am NOT Star Fox - but Beskar assumed that I was for some reason. Hes lying to save his life.

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Double A 03:05 06-25-2010
Ok, I don't know if Wolf has any ulterior motives or not, but his argument makes sense to me. If both Falco and Wolf see Pinman as a baddy, then he can't be good news.

vote: Pinman

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Beskar 03:07 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Pinman:
Obviously I can now tell you absolutely that Beskar is lying - and is anti -town.
Hahaha, but I am not! I am the vemonian power-role investigator. I am not anti-town at all.

Also...

Pinman is not Team Star Fox (aka, Cornerian Power Roles) but infact, the MAFIA.





Hey Town, if you think I am actually bad, kill me tomorrow, but let's nail the mafia first.

Fox, you get rid of me freely after this if you wanted, but lets nail this scum first.

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Pinman 03:10 06-25-2010
i'm waiting on Flax to nail you Beskar.

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Beskar 03:10 06-25-2010
Gem of the Day:

Originally Posted by Pinman:
Please note I am NOT Star Fox
Originally Posted by Pinman:
Please note I am NOT Star Fox
Originally Posted by Pinman:
Please note I am NOT Star Fox
Originally Posted by Pinman:
Please note I am NOT Star Fox
Originally Posted by Pinman:
Please note I am NOT Star Fox
He is the Mafia, Lynch Time!

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Beskar 03:11 06-25-2010
Originally Posted by Pinman:
i'm waiting on Flax to nail you Beskar.
But he won't, because I never claimed that I have investigated you. You lied.

Flax, come and show this. The conditions of the truce was you to be investigated, but since I am the investigator...

Edit:
Originally Posted by :
TheFlax says:
I was fishing
I said, Beskar says you are Starfox to get something out of him
You are going down, Mafia!

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Pinman 03:13 06-25-2010
Excellent. Lets wait for Flax then.

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TheFlax 03:19 06-25-2010
Actually, I lied to Pinman. I told him Beskar knew he was Starfox as an attempt to test his reaction. Beskar never told me he investigated Pinman or that Pinman was Starfox. Beskar told me Pinman might be Starfox, and I just took it from there as a fishing attempt on Pinman.

Unvote; Vote Pinman

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Beskar 03:23 06-25-2010
I went with the truce as I thought he might be Starfox, in otherwords, two allies fighting a foe.

Though Pinman kept breaking the truce conditions by kept on repeating I was Star Wolf, and the fact Star Fox team knows he isn't one of them. Plus with the information I recieved from Pizza about my investigation ability (Which anyone else who had it, would have to be Fox or the Big Bad), but instead "Joe Smuck the average Cornerian" doesn't make sense at all.

Shame I didn't realise this sooner that he wasn't part of the Star Fox team, I would have nailed him then.

Kill me tomorrow, you know who I am and what my ability is. Let's get this mafia scum first.

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