A Bridge Zhou Far - Three Stars Rising [Concluded]

[a completely inoffensive name]

AND YOU ALL DOUBTED US!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hey ACIN, feel like giving me Pinman's info now?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ok! :D

[Secura]

Ooooh, does this mean my role is revealed in the next phase?

People might be doubting you then, ACIN.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Relax, ACIN's clear.

Anyway, it's time to do a little postmortem psychoanalysis. This is Pinman's infamous "reveal" PM, dated a few days back now:

I beg you to exercise discretion in the sharing of this information. Obviously, as will become clear, if the mafia (at least the KMT) acquire this information, it will make life easier for them.

My Role: Loyalty Investigator

I can, thanks to my long history as a fighting man, understand the motivations of my fellow men. I can see if they are committed to anything or not. Of course, there are significant limitations to such an ability. If somebody is committed to something, that could be something other than communism. If they aren't committed to anything, they are almost certainly Communist, but as we saw on night 2 (?), the KMT can convert them.

Night 1: Wasn't paying attention, missed orders

Night 2: Beefy of course - Loyal

Night 3: JHT - b/c of the revenge thing. Heres where it gets interesting. JHT is loyal, but I noticed a "strange look in his eyes". You know what I think this means from the thread.

Night 4: Sigurd - Loyal.

Night 5: Secura. Subotan hasn't gotten back to me. I sent him a PM about it, and ill give you the results when I wake up tommorow.

Thats all I have. Again I caution you to only give this information to people you can trust - even if it means my lynching!

Pinman

The only living person on this list still alive is Sigurd. Now, I'm going to ask the same question of Pinman and Sigurd that Sigurd asked of me way back in Godfather 2: Would Pinman be so bold as to put his flunky on the confirmed innocent list, knowing his death (and eventual reveal) was imminent? Keep in mind that there was a recruitment on Day 4 I believe.

-edit- It was Night 5. So there's a minor possibility that Sigurd was our KMT recruit, assuming Pinman wasn't lying about his investigations prior to Secura.

[Cute Wolf]

so there will be no vote today :cheers:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Sigurd, you got som 'splainin' to do......

[GeneralHankerchief]

Comrades, I will most likely be offline for the next 36 hours. Therefore:

All groups are to protect the same targets as last night (minus the lynched person, if there is any of course). The investigation squad is to look at Sigurd if he is not lynched. If Sigurd *is* lynched then it is to follow ACIN's discretion.

[Sigurd]

Wait... I am getting heat because a traitor named me in his fake investigations?
Feel free to investigate me... I am confident that I will be redeemed of any suspicion.

[Pinman]

I'm mildly amused right now - but i'll save you the trouble of thinking this through.

The results are almost entirely fake guys. 1-3 are obviously fake, Sigurd is somebody the KMT wants dead because hes working for Japan, and I gave you the real Secura result because you caught me in the act.

-EDIT- In case you were wondering why Psychonaut was killed. We were trying to build him some credibility by having him accuse Sigurd. Unfortunately, the Japs killed him, and we, for reasons I'm not about to explain, can't retaliate.

[Sigurd]

Mildly amusing...

So you claim the KMT is not able to kill me? Because I am Japanese? Please... and you put me on your loyal list.. because you knew I would get heat once you died and was found to be KMT three days later?
I am confident that the current leadership, in their faults, will do the right thing.

BTW... why haven't the KMT killed anyone?

[Pinman]

I put you on my loyal list because I ran out of ideas :).

As for why the KMT haven't killed anybody, as I said before, I'm not going to reveal that. I do want the KMT to win after all.

[Sigurd]

Oh and BTW... Why did you lash out at Niklas, a loyal communist, when you could have done the exact same stunt with me?
I'll answer that for you ... because you know I am a loyal communist also.
Why all this now? This tells me one thing.
We have KMT among us and one of them would have been our next candidate. Who was next to be pressured?

[a completely inoffensive name]

UNLIMITED POWER!!! nah, jk. Seriously though Sigurd, give me your side of the story and how you think the heat should be brought upon. I'll hear your side of the story before I make a decision.

[Secura]

Wait... I am getting heat because a traitor named me in his fake investigations?

At least you're getting heat and able to defend yourself... I was killed outright without being investigated properly or anything.

[Jolt]

Heh, here I came thinking I had been WoG'd or something since I was on vacation and apparently the game has only moved 1 Day? And today there is no vote?

[Sigurd]

UNLIMITED POWER!!! nah, jk. Seriously though Sigurd, give me your side of the story and how you think the heat should be brought upon. I'll hear your side of the story before I make a decision.

My side of the story?
Come on man... I have only what I can read in the thread to base my accusations on. But YOU and your fellow officers have investigation results, orders from all groups loyal to the chairman. Results from Yaseikhaan (secret stuff apparently).
You even have doubled the investigations now that you have a deputy. You got to have something...

My only lead is the KMT trying to get me lynched based on false accusations. Why now and why me? Clearly to take some pressure off whoever was next in line and bying this someone an extra night.
The only thing I can find is:

I want Jolt investigated or pressured tomorrow on suspicion of being the Hairy Man.

What if Jolt is not the Hairy Man, but the KMT colonel?
Renata asked for pressure, but as soon as the day dawned, A KMT traitor brands me as Japanese which brilliantly deflected Renata's comment and puts the spotlight squarely on me.

Who are you Pinman? It seems you have played Mafia before.

[Jolt]

What if Jolt is not the Hairy Man, but the KMT colonel?

I'm still waiting to hear any investigation results.

[Subotan]

As said in the rules, abstains/no lynches are not allowed, so this phase will extend for 24 hours until someone is lynched. If STILL no-one is lynched by that point, then I'm dipping into my (un)lucky hat to pick a lynch.

[a completely inoffensive name]

I'm still waiting to hear any investigation results.

Those are secret.

[a completely inoffensive name]

My side of the story?
Come on man... I have only what I can read in the thread to base my accusations on. But YOU and your fellow officers have investigation results, orders from all groups loyal to the chairman. Results from Yaseikhaan (secret stuff apparently).
You even have doubled the investigations now that you have a deputy. You got to have something...

My only lead is the KMT trying to get me lynched based on false accusations. Why now and why me? Clearly to take some pressure off whoever was next in line and bying this someone an extra night.
The only thing I can find is:

What if Jolt is not the Hairy Man, but the KMT colonel?
Renata asked for pressure, but as soon as the day dawned, A KMT traitor brands me as Japanese which brilliantly deflected Renata's comment and puts the spotlight squarely on me.

Who are you Pinman? It seems you have played Mafia before.

I just want to hear your input. This isn't imperialistic Japan where the emperor makes his decisions and damn the rest. We are proud Communists, we all have a say in this.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Besides I am not choosing who gets lynched, that is up to all of us. If you guys have no want to lynch sigurd, then go ahead. Personally, I think we have little to perhaps no enemies on our side of the river. So I am tempted to not even vote or to throw away my vote on myself since no lynch or abstain isn't allowed.

[Jolt]

Those are secret.

I mean on myself. I don't mind publicizing the results.

[miotas]

Does anyone have any leads on anyone who may possibly be an enemy?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm back, briefly. Need to get a good 8 hours in though.

Unfortunately, I don't really have any suspects on this side of the river. Ideally we'd have a no lynch this phase to learn more about Sigurd overnight, but as that's apparently out of the cards and we need to lynch somebody I don't know about so we can avoid Subotan's Random Implementation O' Doom and possibly kill a huge asset. Sorry buddy.

(And if any of you doubt that Subotan does not have some sort of special commune with that evil tool, I suggest you look at the death list on Pirate Ship Mafia.)

I leave you with the choice of either Sigurd or Joooray, who YLC was visiting the night before he was lynched. I fully realize that these are both horrible cases and we have nothing more to go on, but there is the greater good and all. Whoever gets left alive will be investigated at night.

Maybe we could tie up the vote between those two and have a random lynch. I forget exactly how tiebreakers work and need sleep though.

[Sigurd]

I leave you with the choice of either Sigurd or Joooray, who YLC was visiting the night before he was lynched. I fully realize that these are both horrible cases and we have nothing more to go on, but there is the greater good and all. Whoever gets left alive will be investigated at night.

Well... I for one do not agree. You say YLC visited me and Joooray? This apparently shows that he had some role. And since nothing happened to me that night, I am assuming he had a investigative role like JHT. But we are still a lynch short and I am not comfortable putting my head on the block after the Pinman revelation.
I am going to go with my initial gut here and vote based on what I believe is a attempted frame to shield a real suspect.

Since Renata named Jolt, I am going to vote: Jolt
She is part of the officer's trusted circle and asked for pressure on Jolt because she belives he is the hairy man. I say the KMT wanted to keep this pressure off and fabricated a diversion.

[seireikhaan]

I will agree with Sigurd, for the time being. Vote: Jolt. I'm not personally all that thrilled with a Joooray or Sigurd lynch.

[Pinman]

Eventually you will have to take out Sigurd. We can't kill him for you :)

[Jolt]

Renata also meant making investigations on me. I am still waiting for somebody to come up with those results.

Vote: Jolt

[Captain Blackadder]

I agree Sigurd needs to be looked at closer in order to determine what should be done with him.

Vote Jolt

The case on him is far better then the cases on either Jooray or Sigurd.