I'm going to echo Renata's sentiment. I think Beskar's whole "Reenk Roink" must the thief because he's asking for lots of gold is rather far fetched. Especially because he brings it up almost out of nowhere to justify what is in fact an OMGUS. Also there is the certitude with which everything related to that is said.
Having played another game where gold is used (on CFC), I know that asking for gold is not necessarily indicative of anything. I asked for gold nearly each round because my ability was powered by 5 gold and it was very much pro-town. (Sort of like a detective.)
Doesn't mean Reenk Roink is pro-town, but doesn't mean either he should be lynched for it. Its a terrible reason in my opinion.
Vote: Beskar (in protest to a whole bunch of people following shoddy reasoning.)
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.
Also it is highly flawed as well. Because it can't be an OMGUS, as I voted first. Also, I didn't pull it out of no where, it is pretty solid reasoning, that some one who goes around stealing from others might have a condition to generate a certain amount of money.
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I already keep track of every single thing that happens in the game (roles, income, Str/Con changes, votes, bids, night actions) with Excel, but thanks for posting this nonetheless, good sir.
When does the round end Secura?
Yup, it's midnight GMT; I'll still take bids or votes up to that point. :3
"Blacker than a moonless night. Hotter and more bitter than Hell itself… that is coffee."
I already keep track of every single thing that happens in the game (roles, income, Str/Con changes, votes, bids, night actions) with Excel, but thanks for posting this nonetheless, good sir.
No problem, I do it as much for the other players as the host so not everybody has to dig through the thread to see who'll be lynched. I had an idea you would have some system for keeping up with everything.
Well your vote for Beskar is a terrible response, vote to imprison Reenk and tie it up.
Point. Though it would tie it up anymore. Unvote, Imprison: Reenk Roink
Originally Posted by Beskar
Also it is highly flawed as well. Because it can't be an OMGUS, as I voted first. Also, I didn't pull it out of no where, it is pretty solid reasoning, that some one who goes around stealing from others might have a condition to generate a certain amount of money.
Looking back, I was wrong about the OMGUS. Nevertheless, I don't think the reasoning is particularly strong. Odds are as good that he's pro town or (and this wouldn't be a first for Reenk Roink) nothing at all.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
TheFlax needs to die on principle. No townie should even be that scummy.
Odds are as good that he's pro town or (and this wouldn't be a first for Reenk Roink) nothing at all.
At the same time, I'm still curious as to the reasoning behind many of the things he's said. First we had the "tracker" comment, which I can only assume was a bad attempt at drawing in lynchbait. Second, we have the "gold" comment.
I'd guess that Reenk is town, but only because he'd have been stupid to draw this attention to himself if he were scum. Perhaps he's a casteless, Dust-town dwelling beggar? He may be our thief, in that case.
EDIT: Here are the comments:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Double A is innocent.
Edit: Maybe innocent is too strong but he didn't do anything last night.
Edit Edit: Vote: Renata
He gave no reason for his claim that Double A was innocent and then blindly voted Renata despite the fact that she'd just been in jail!
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Why do you have to take the bait?
Unvote, Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
By the way, my role starts with no gold or items nor do I earn anything, so can you guys please make some donations to me to help me with basic needs? Secura is begging and donating allowed?
After everybody jumped onto my bandwagon about the mafia-kill comments, he reveals that he has no armour or weapons and in doing so, gives signal to mafia that he is a certain kill the forthcoming night. (No armour = basic constitution, presuming that his constitution isn't that of a High Dragon)
Returning to the point I made before I looked over Reenk's comments, I think it would be wise to assume that he's a beggar. At least, this ties in with his claims that he has no money or items. It also could grant him some sort of "watcher" ability, given that a beggar could probably blend in with the crowd or hide down a back-alley.
This begs the question: is he worth keeping alive? I'd say yes, and my kill vote will change to reflect that. Unvote; Imprison: Reenk Roink
EDITEDIT: Dang, it's after the deadline.
Last edited by ArpeggiateTHIS; 07-18-2010 at 10:30.
Arpeggio: A broken chord. Arpeggiate: Breaking up a chord. ArpeggiateTHIS, scumbag.
Another day had passed and, for the most part, Endrin felt it had followed the course of the previous day; plenty of accusations, claims and questions, but little progress for the majority of the day. His thoughts lingered to Lady Dordan and the cause of her untimely death... did any of his guests know what had happened?
He sighed softly, and turned back to the matter at hand; with a wave of his hand, he motioned for a member of the crowd to come forward; proud and assured of himself, Beskar paced forward, bowed to the king and sunk to one knee.
"What have you decided today?", Endrin asked.
"We've learned that Reenk is a thief and should be punished for his crimes!", the kneeling Beskar replied confidently.
Endrin furrowed his brow at the dwarf's enthusiasm and gusto; "and you are all in agreeance with this?"
The crowd murmured and nodded as they agreed with Beskar, with calls for Reenk's head being the main point of agreeance among them, yet there were some whisperings among the collective that didn't quite share the same views and wondered what Reenk was even supposed to be guilty of.
Before Beskar could continue speaking, another voice interjected, hands flailing towards the doors leading to the lobby; "it's the Grey Wardens, my lord, they have returned!"
Duncan had returned with his two compatriots, one of whom looked completely dishevelled and worse-for-wear; they sat him in a corner away from the king's audience, then Duncan moved around to stand beside Endrin.
"I am afraid that the subject of your ire has just fled from the Palace", he said softly with a slightly bemused look upon his tanned face, "he collided with my elven friend here."
Beskar climbed to his feet, indignant and deeply offended that Duncan found the situation to be funny; "we must apprehend the thief, off with his head, throw him into the magma, feed him to nugs..."
Duncan shook his head and turned to King Endrin and spoke in a hushed tone that was barely audible, the king himself having to strain hard to hear what the Warden was saying.
"I believe he was fleeing towards the Deep Roads, my friend... I doubt you will see him again."
King Endrin Aeducan sighed heavily, rose from his throne and walked out of the room in silence, leaving Duncan to usher everyone to their beds and take Reenk Roink's discarded items to his own chambers.
Apologies for a slightly late writeup... the heavy workload of my job and the game's taken it's toll; when this phase ends, I should be working 9-2 for the rest of the week so should have more time for the game. :<
Last edited by Secura; 07-18-2010 at 10:26.
"Blacker than a moonless night. Hotter and more bitter than Hell itself… that is coffee."
After everybody jumped onto my bandwagon about the mafia-kill comments, he reveals that he has no armour or weapons and in doing so, gives signal to mafia that he is a certain kill the forthcoming night. (No armour = basic constitution, presuming that his constitution isn't that of a High Dragon)
I never implied I had no basic armor or weapons in that post, just no trinkets or special items which I wanted. You will probably get my awesome armor and weapons soon. it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket.
Edit: I would advise the town to look at the people who started voting for me later in the round seemingly out of the blue, especially Chaotix who rode the fence for what seemed like an eternity only to later decide he'd rather see me gone than just checked for a night at a point when it seemed like the imprison movement was gaining strength.
So how long till the reveal? 3 days? That's a bit much for a small game.
Why is it so important that you know immediately?
Revealing roles immediately after their death is a massive boon to town-aligned roles; I think that, considering the wide array of abilities that the town has and other mitigating circumstances, immediate reveals are not entirely necessary, and as such you'll have to wait at least a phase or two to find out about the lynched/dead.
Basically, you need a little more patience; Duncan will reveal everything about Reenk in due course.
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket.
The very fact you did this still baffles me... could you explain via PM what your angle was in taking this course of action?
"Blacker than a moonless night. Hotter and more bitter than Hell itself… that is coffee."
The very fact you did this still baffles me... could you explain via PM what your angle was in taking this course of action?
Were you not the one who wrote my background where my sick dog needed a restoration spell cast that would cost 20 gold and an item of some magical power? You think I could be heartless enough to let him die!
ooc: A restoration spell costing TWENTY FREAKING GOLD? I could buy all the non-unlimited elfroot in the game and make poultices out of them for LESS! That's like a level one skill!
Were you not the one who wrote my background where my sick dog needed a restoration spell cast that would cost 20 gold and an item of some magical power? You think I could be heartless enough to let him die!
She said "via PM", presumably so that you wouldn't reveal anything important in thread.
Arpeggio: A broken chord. Arpeggiate: Breaking up a chord. ArpeggiateTHIS, scumbag.
The merchants of Orzammar had been busy arranging their wares long before the guards had emerged; it took hours to haul equipment from homes to stalls, and then there was the presentation of it all... cuirasses fixed upon training dummies, swords propped up against walls. piles of sparkling gems and boxes lined with various tonics.
Following the success of the previous day, where they made a total of seventeen gold, the merchants declared that they would be willing to buy any unwanted equipment from the citizens of Orzammar... for a reasonable price of course!
Additionally, they had some new wares for sale:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The Chameleon's Clasp Trinket +2 Constitution, cannot be tracked This item requires a minimum bid of six gold and can be worn by anyone.
The '1' Ring Trinket +1 Strength, +1 Constitution, +1% chance to escape from an encounter This item requires a minimum bid of six gold and can be worn by anyone.
The king's guests assembled in the Aeducan Throne Room to see that their esteemed host's usual seat was empty; the tanned-skinned Warden was stood in front of it, arms folded and eyes constantly scanning across the room until everyone was in and the doors were shut.
"I am glad to see that you all made it through the night safely", he said with a soft smile visible beneath his trimmed facial hair, "but we have urgent business to attend to."
Duncan turned around and picked up a sizeable warhammer that had been resting on the edge of the throne, then turned back to the crowd and urged them all to look over the well-crafted weapon. He could see that many struggled to lift it, such was the strength of it's previous wielder, and he contemplated retrieving it immediately... but Endrin had been insistent, they had to see for themselves where their suspicions had led.
"This belonged to Reenk Roink", the Grey Warden continued, "and I am sure that you all know what the insignia upon the stone means."
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The expressions of the crowd turned sour upon seeing the imprint upon the warhammer's stone, and a stark realisation hit them; it was johnhughthom who spoke up first.
"So... Reenk Roink was a member of th-"
Duncan interjected with a sharp nod and a sharper glare; his smile had vanished entirely, and his face bore signs of disdain and regret over the actions taken by the guests. The Grey Wardens and the Legion of the Dead shared much in common, and he felt that there was a sense of kinship between the rarely-trusted Wardens and shunned Legionnaires, particularly when it came to the darkspawn.
"It is likely that he rejoined his fellow legionnaires in the Deep Roads; as I understand it, it's rare that a legionnaire enters Orzammar, and we have no idea what brought him back to the city."
The audience stirred, muttering among themselves until a loud thud shook everyone to the core; ArpeggiateTHIS had dropped the weapon, but Duncan actually welcomed this interruption, using the break in the chatter to speak again.
"Regardless of this turn of events, the king wishes for you to select who you find most trustworthy to have his discarded weapon, in addition to your usual duties of finding the culprit for Lady Dordan's death", Duncan continued, before taking the heavy maul from the hands of a struggling noble and leaving the attending guests to begin their debate.
I'm going to confess this before anybody else does: I was thrown in jail for the duration of last night and thus prevented from carrying out my night actions. Roleblocked.
As you can see, there were no kill attempts made last night, and it only takes a rational townie to come to the conclusion that I should be lynched.
Before town makes an unnecessary kill, I'd like to plead my case before you and try and prove my innocence.
I am a dwarf, and a noble dwarf at that. As previously mentioned, I carry a Dwarven Shortsword and a set of Heavy Dwarven Armour, which add 1 to Strength and Constitution respectively. The first mafia kill attempt was made with an axe, I seem to recall. I do not have an axe, although I cannot immediately prove this to you.
My night actions are not kills but an investigation of sorts. As a noble dwarf, I am searching for a bride with whom I will begin a legacy. On night one, I investigated Romanic and found him to not be a female (am I right, Romanic?). Last night I attempted an investigation on Renata, but was thrown in jail before reaching her location.
Either way, it's up to you whether I should be exiled or killed, but let me assure you that you're making a grave mistake in thinking that I am scum. I've got nothing more to say that can redeem myself in your eyes, although I hope you will all consider my comments and make the connection for yourselves that I'm telling the truth. If not, you can always lynch me next round.
Arpeggio: A broken chord. Arpeggiate: Breaking up a chord. ArpeggiateTHIS, scumbag.
Re: Dragon Age: The Aeducan Succession
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I knew it was civplayah, don't know how I got you mixed up. Both CFCers I guess.
it will suck when you learn what you have lost, and I just wanted 20 gold and a trinket. 
You think I could be heartless enough to let him die! 
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