Star Fox- Lylat Wars [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

I'm going to take a quote, from I believe, the very first Mafia game on the org, modify it a bit and I think you'll all agree that its applicable.

"Beskar. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus

[Choxorn]

Yes, but no word of general pepper doing ANYTHING has appeared. So tales in the write-ups of him keeping the cornarians loyal against some kind of conversion. And is there any sign in the cornarian role-pms that they might be converted? or of general pepper being important to them?

I'll agree that I have some doubts about Autolycus's claims, but others are more suspicious, so just let Beskar scan him and then we can see if he's telling the truth or not.

[Skooma Addict]

If Rob64 is in the game then there's no reason to believe Gen. Pepper wouldn't be. In Star Fox 64 Pepper gave Star Fox's team their orders and was basically the nervous figurehead so I personally believe it's very likely he's here somewhere. Whether or not autolycus is who he says he is remains to be seen though but should be given the benefit of a doubt until it can be proven otherwise. You also have to take into account the chance that some of the abilities or goals that would be stated in Gen. Pepper's hypothetical role pm would be omitted or concealed as not to give too much about his capabilities or lack there of away to everyone in the thread. These omissions may account for some of the proposed fallacies you've discovered in his role claim Nightbringer, just to give an alternate perspective from what I've read so far.

Vote: miotas Probably coincidence that mafia get two night kills when his activity suddenly reemerges, though the same could probably be said about about ATPGoodness as well.

[Choxorn]

The Mafia get two kills every odd night. And it's not the same mafia, it's probably two different mafia groups.

[Romanic]

Yes, but no word of general pepper doing ANYTHING has appeared. So tales in the write-ups of him keeping the cornarians loyal against some kind of conversion. And is there any sign in the cornarian role-pms that they might be converted? or of general pepper being important to them?

The Role PM does not imply convertion. It could be a twist in the game, that will happen if General Pepper dies (example: The Cornerians will turn against the Venomians because they lack leadership after Pepper died).

But anyway, the point is that we cannot lynch General Pepper on this basis, not after we did not believe Beefy/Rob64 for the similar reasons.

Look at the character list in Post #1.

Star Fox Team (4) -> all accounted for.
Star Wolf Team (4) -> all accounted for if we believe Beskar.
Pigma -> has been attacked last night.
Krystal -> dead.
General Pepper -> ???
Katt Monroe -> dead.
Bill Grey -> dead.
Rob64 -> dead.

We know that every character from this list is around except General Pepper, so I'm inclined to believe autolycus.

[wideyedwanderer]

I kinda scanned him as neutral.

Yes, but...?

[Khazaar]

I´m happy that we´re not trying to lynch another protownrole like beefy. Vote:ATPGood

[Nightbringer]

I'll agree that I have some doubts about Autolycus's claims, but others are more suspicious, so just let Beskar scan him and then we can see if he's telling the truth or not.

Thats what we're doing XD

[Beskar]

still leaves ATPGood, Chaotix, Wideyewander,Miotas, Hell_Hound unaccounted for. I hope Peppy's takes one of them out.

[Renata]

We're all just spinning our wheels. Time to go see what Pinman was up to before he died.

[Beskar]

I kinda scanned him as neutral.

What took you so long to say that? Bad Double A.

That pretty much proves I am not the mafia.

[Death is yonder]

but beskars does not contain any of the numerous flaws that autolycus's does. And general pepper has barely appeared in the writeups, and his si never has. Also, members oft eam star fox woud KNOW that general pepper where in the game because e would be a member of their team. or at least cornarians would. if a trusted player comes out and declares they KNOW there is a general pepper i will buy it

Right, so ArpeggiateTHIS was obviously lying, because if he claimed Bill Grey people would have laughed him down. Yes Nightbringer. Also most curious how your activity level rose magnificently when Beskar was accused by me

Yes, but no word of general pepper doing ANYTHING has appeared. So tales in the write-ups of him keeping the cornarians loyal against some kind of conversion. And is there any sign in the cornarian role-pms that they might be converted? or of general pepper being important to them?

Read above reply

Also, why would Pizza basically place insinuations of a supporting character in role pms at the start?

While benefits are evident, conversely, it would provide unfair verification on the credibility of a claim.

[Double A]

What took you so long to say that? Bad Double A.

That pretty much proves I am not the mafia.

I've said it more than 8 times over the course of the game.

[TheFlax]

From Beskar's list, I like Chaotix or WEW better as lynches, but I'll go with everyone else on this.

Unvote, Vote: ATPGood

[Askthepizzaguy]

Round ended at 1200. So it appears as though Alexander the pretty guy is lynched.
Writeup commencing.

[Renata]

Argh, too slow. :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day Phase Eleven

Stage Eleven: Sargasso Space Hideout



This is a for fun video.... it has no bearing on the story. Click on the music link below.




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Alexander the Pretty Good was flying his fighter through the Meteo Asteroid belt, when he found a strange region not explored before. There was a base in this region, controlled by Star Wolf.

Wolf O'Donnell: Looks like we've got an intruder, boys.

Leon Powalski: Venom is attacking our base? We're not going down yet. The party's just begun!

Panther Caroso: Such unworthy prey... I wish to challenge something more interesting.

Pigma Dengar: Let's cripple his ship anyway... sell it for scrap metal. I bet we can get a lotta cash for that!

Andrew Oikonny: Bow before the great Andrew!

Alexander the Pretty Good: Yikes! I'm out of here!

Wolf O'Donnell: Oh no you don't. Before we.... let you leave... I demand to know where Andross' secret base is located!

Alexander the Pretty Good: I don't know anything, I swear! I don't know where Andross is.

Leon Powalski: You serve under him, do you not?

Alexander the Pretty Good: I haven't heard from him since Star Fox defeated him five years ago....

Panther Caroso: Why are the Venomians protecting his homeworld?

Alexander the Pretty Good: That's our homeworld now. He's not there!

Pigma Dengar: *oink* Whaddaya mean he's NOT THERE???

Alexander the Pretty Good: He's set up a base somewhere else. Even Venom has been attacked by his proton-antiproton missiles. No one is safe. Your base could be next!

Wolf O'Donnell: What? Is that all you got?

Alexander the Pretty Good: Yes, that's the whole truth! ...Will you let me leave now?

Wolf O'Donnell: Absolutely. You're... dismissed.

With that, Star Wolf opened fire on the venomian fighter, and it was incinerated in a blast of red plasma.



Alexander the Pretty Good: AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My ship!!! The lollipop! ....It was such a good ship.








MISSION COMPLETE

Enemies down: 1








Alexander the Pretty Good- Venomian Fighter

James McCloud: Time is almost up...... Don't ever give up, my son.

Official Tally:

ATPGood: (8) DIY, Nightbringer, Autolycus, Secura, civplayah, Yaseikhaan, Khazaar, Flax
Beskar: (2) Chaotix, WEW,
miotas: Skooma Addict
autolycus: miotas
WEW: CDF
HH: Diana Abnoba

abstain: Beskar

hell_hound: Did not vote.
Psychonaut: did not vote

Alive: (17/44)

Autolycus
Beskar
Chaotix
civplayah
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
hell_hound
Khazaar
Miotas
Nightbringer
Death is Yonder
Secura
Skooma Addict
TheFlax
Psychonaut
wideyedwanderer
Yaseikhaan


Dead: (25/44)

Askthepizzaguy- James McCloud
pevergreen- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Death is Yonder- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
civplayah- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
choxorn- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
shlin28- Venomian Assault Force Fighter pilot
Chaotix- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Pinman- Attack Carrier pilot- Attack Carrier
Yaropolk- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Seon- Venomian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Romanic- Falco Lombardi
God Emperor- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Beefy187- Rob64
Renata- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Frozen in Ice- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Joooray- Krystal
ArpeggiateTHIS- Bill Grey
Nictel- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot
Double A- Slippy Toad
Krill- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Johnhughthom- Katt Monroe
Choxorn- Fox McCloud
pevergreen- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
landlubber- Cornerian Defense Fighter pilot
Alexander the pretty good- Vemonian Assault Force Fighter Pilot

Out of this Dimension: (6/44)

White_Eyes:D- No vote 3 days in a row.
Rob_the_Celt- No vote 3 days in a row.
merciary- No vote 3 days in a row.
YLC- No vote 3 days in a row.
Stuck in Pi- No vote 3 days in a row.
shlin28- No vote 3 days in a row.


Replacements:

Death is Yonder replaces Remake20
pevergreen replaces White_Eyes
civplayah replaces Winston Hughes
choxorn replaces Splitpersonality
Chaotix replaces merciary
Shlin28 replaces Rob_the_Celt
Psychonaut replaces YLC

No more replacement players.

[Beskar]

autolycus, chaotix and wideeyewanderer, they are basically the only three left and again, they get away scot-free.

[Renata]

Beskar -- please list all of the living people you have confirmed as Cornerian. I don't even care if you mix in a teammate or two in order to hide them, I just want to know who's been checked out. Please also list any people you have as "non-Cornerian".

Double A, please do the same for any results that have already been made public. I don't have time to go through the thread trying to dig all of this out, but presumably you have easier access to the information and know which results are allowable to talk about.

I'm pretty sure everyone Arpeg checked out is now dead, but if anyone remembers differently, let me know. I'm going to try to take a crack at this; I need information.

[Beskar]

Yaseikhaan and Psychonaut are Cornerian. The rest are non-Cornerian.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Official Tally:

ATPGood: (8) DIY, Nightbringer, Autolycus, Secura, civplayah, Yaseikhaan, Khazaar, Flax
Beskar: (2) Chaotix, WEW,
miotas: Skooma Addict
autolycus: miotas
WEW: CDF
HH: Diana Abnoba

abstain: Beskar

hell_hound: Did not vote.
Psychonaut: did not vote

Added to both writeups now.

[Beskar]

Peppy, you kill Chaotix, I will investigate autolycus, ??? will take out wide-eye-wanderer.

The town, Star Fox and Star Wolf win the game.

We have to do this now.

[autolycus]

Peppy, you kill Chaotix, I will investigate autolycus, ??? will take out wide-eye-wanderer.

The town, Star Fox and Star Wolf win the game.

We have to do this now.

My name is General Pepper, and I approve this message. One possible issue is if Venomians have been vulnerable to conversion, that they may have infiltrated your ranks, Wolf. But for tonight, I think you're on the money.

[Renata]

WEW is not mafia, that's the one thing I've gotten from my review so far. Check out the day where shlin was lynched. WEW was in the lead for a short while, *and Pinman put him there*. Furthermore, it was a now-known townie (landlubber) who changed that again, not a teammate of Pinman's.

Specifically, post 396.

[autolycus]

In that case, ??? should probably take a shot at who Pigma might be, since he didn't seem to be on Team Star Wolf in beskar's PM, and is therefore probably evil. We know it's not Psychonaut and it's not Yaseikhaan.

[Beskar]

??? attacked Pigma and it failed last phase. hm?

[Renata]

Did you scan Pinman, Beskar? Can't remember.

[Renata]

Can't read: actually Pinman's vote on WEW made it 4-3 in favor of WEW, then Autolycus, Double A, CDF and landlubber in short order made it 4-7. Still doesn't strike me at all as a bussing (two of those are known townies, bandwagon could have gone anywhere), but just to be clear.

[Choxorn]

I hope Pigma's attack, takes one of them out.

What?

BTW, hell hound and miotas are both guilty of epic lurking and being mafiaish, lynch one of them tomorrow.

[Renata]

The shlin bandwagon, for posterity, living players bolded, Pinman in red:

shlin28- (12) Renata, Secura, autolycus, Double A, CDF, landlubber [did not unvote], Beskar, DIY, Seon, Joooray, Diana Abnoba, hell_hound

WEW- (10) JHT, Chaotix[version one], Pinman, Miotas, Romanic, Nightbringer, Skooma Addict, Yaseikhaan, Alexander the Pretty Good, Beefy187
Krill- (2) TheFlax, Yaropolk
Rob_the_Celt- (1) God Emperor
JHT- (1) WEW
God Emperor (1) Khazaar
YLC[Psychonaut] (1) shlin28

abstain- (1) Krill

Did Not Vote: (9) Frozen in Ice, merciary[Chaotix], Nictel, Rob_the_Celt, splitpersonality, Stuck in Pi, White_Eyes:D, Winston Hughes[civplayah], YLC[Psychonaut]

I have this theory that mafia tend to spread their votes when it's townie vs townie, as I think this was, so I might come back to this later.