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    Ja mata, TosaInu Forum Administrator edyzmedieval's Avatar
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    Thumbs up Byzantium Total War

    Hello modderz and friendz.

    I want to ask you if you are interested in a Byzantium Total War mod.

    It's a new mod, which is gonna have a new map and new starting times. The geographical position is as you might expect, Asia Minor and Europe, where the great Byzantine Empire has once stood. Many new units shall be added, bringing a totally different flavour to MTW. Starting times will be: 1071, 1204, and 1328 and will end in 1453, when Constantinople, the great capital and city, fallen to the Ottoman Turks.

    Those who might be interested, leave a message or PM me or King Henry V. We need especially a modeller and a graphics expert to help us create the campaign map and also the new units.

    New stuff will be added, as I said. Many new factions, new historical Byzantine Units, some new buildings, new trade goods and possibly, improved AI and diplomacy.

    The Factions
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    The Byzantines
    Despotate of Epirus
    Despotate of Moreea
    Empire of Niceea
    Empire of Trebizond
    Norman Kingdom of Sicily
    Venetians
    Papacy
    Mongols
    Ottoman Empire
    Seljuk Turks
    Sultanate of Rum
    Kingdom of Armenia
    Khazar Khaganate
    Pecheneg Tribes
    Bulgars
    Avars
    Cumans
    Wallachians
    Moldavians
    Hungary

    Progress of the mod
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    Historical research: about 30%
    Campaign map: 15%
    Units: 0% ( made the graphics only for Skutatos and Kilibanohphoroi)
    New factions: 0%(we've decided on the factions, BTW)
    Testing: 0%

    Starting date: 1071(after the battle of Manzikert)

    Members
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    Edyzmedieval - Project and team leader, campaign map maker, unit maker, historical research
    King Henry V - Historical research, New Buildings
    Kataphraktos - Military researcher
    Dirk - Battle Maps

    Cheers!
    Edyzmedieval and King Henry V
    Last edited by edyzmedieval; 08-20-2005 at 20:40.
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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    I have a found a a map for the period, which would encorporate much of the Eastern Roman Empire and its neighbours.
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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    Hopeful factions would include: the ERE, Seljuk Turks, Sultanate of Rum, Sultanate of Ikonion, Hungarians, Norman Kingdom of Sicily, Venice, Genoa, Fatamid Egyptians, Outremer (could be united or several states), the Papacy, Mongols, Ottomans, the Arab emirates, the Latin Empire, the Despotate of Epirus, the Empire of Nicaea and the Empire of Trebizond.
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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    Sounds like a great idea, guys!

    Might I suggest that you could start even earlier than 1087... an argument could be made for including the time period of Basil II Bulgaroctonus "The Bulgar-Slayer" who I believe ruled from 1025. Don't have my books in front of me though.

    A great resource is John Julius Norwich (you may have already heard of him); he has a 3-volume set on Byzantium: the Early Centuries, the Apogee, and the Decline and Fall. These 3 books are also smooshed together into his Short History, but it's probably better reading and more info to get the 3 big ones at the library or something.

    I don't know what I could offer for help, as I don't know how to do any graphical changes with campaign map or units. But I hope you get it worked out, and let me know if you need anything!

    It also occurs to me that the map you're using is pretty much exactly the area we are considering for the Crusader States mod. If our map gets done first, or vice versa, we might be able to do some sharing to make things go faster! Then again, some features might be different for the different periods. Just a thought.

    CountMRVHS

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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    Thanks for the help Count...

    It's gonna be a great mod, hopefully somebody will download it since MTW has less and less players....Especially with the expansion for RTW goin in August...
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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    BTW,

    we start in 1089 because it's the start of the great Comneni dynasty, starting with the great Alexius I Comnen.
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    The Empire's situation was pretty strong before the deafeat at Manzikert and any half-decent player would win fairly easily. Then again an added factor to make the game harder and more historically accurate would be low loyalty generals, thus civil war would always lurk in the background.
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    Default Re: Anyone interested in a Byzantium Total War mod?!

    Gotcha.

    Is it possible to mod generals' loyalty? I'd be interested in figuring out how you could do that. One thing I've thought about doing in order to make a more "rebellious" and realistic game is to not allow watchtowers or border forts to be built by any faction. Spies and assassins would have a greater role, and although you'd be able to "see" provinces right next to you, you wouldn't know what the army consisted of unless you had an agent of some kind in the province.

    Then again, border forts are nice. Something to think about.

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    Default Re: Byzantium Total War

    EDIT nevermind...
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    Why?! Why nevermind?!
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    sounds good :)

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    The mod is inactive for the moment....
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    How much of it have you already done? What kind of stuff do you still need to do?
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    Well...it seems it is dead...but if you are still interested to make a mod under this subject -with MTW,RTW or M2TW- i can help... PM me if if you are interested.

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