Is there a late bodyguard for the KH? If so, are they hoplites or cavalry? Thanks.
Is there a late bodyguard for the KH? If so, are they hoplites or cavalry? Thanks.
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Ehhh - just a question that came in my mind while reading this: when I hire a merc-general (greek cav) and he become man of the hour or that adopting-thing, will his sons have the cav or the spartan guards?
One thing I should test in my KH-Game but maybe those of you, who have more experiece could answer that question.
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ye, the hellenic phalanx, but dunno 'bout another one.
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yes, but that's a small trigger not a huge reform. It's not even in the FAQ as a Reform, IIRC
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All KH family members that come of age after the starting date get Hoplitai Epilektoi as bodyguards. Only three of the starting generals get Spartans. In your case, the recruited general would become a family member, and hence his sons would have epilektoi as bodyguards.
The Greeks only get a phalanx unit, if and when the March of Time event occurs.
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KH generals start with two types of bodyguards depending on their origins. Athenians and Rhodians have Distuinguished type, a real fancy guys. They are as strong as Spartans and as capable. This type is your default one for the whole game:
Now, to spice things up a bit, EB team gave starting Spartan generals (and spawned Carthaginian general Xanthippos to be exact) different bodyguard, Spartan Hoplites:
Spartan generals (like the guy on Rhodos) you start with use those. But their sons will be using the default type. Which isn't any worse so no big loss except role-playing suffering from this.
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maybe i do not understand what you are trying to say but...
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He's talking about the bodyguards, not about the ethnicity trait.
The decendants of your spartan FMs will have the Spatiates ethnicity, yet they won't have Spartiates Hoplitai as their BGs.
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But theoretically wouldn't a spartan prefer to have his own kin as bodyguard, rather than some greeks from who knows where? They were the most close minded, war centered greeks, it only makes sense to give spartans a spartan guard, look at the elite spartans who followed leonidas at thermopilae(sp?), they were the royal guard IIRC. Anyway is it even possible that generals with different ethnicities get different bodyguards? For example the Nervi would get the belgae heavy cavalry and the galatians galatian heavy cavalry, just an idea.
Last edited by Cyrus; 03-26-2009 at 00:30.
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You know how historically accurate EB is. The fact that they made the Spartiates have Spartan bodyguards in the first place shows that. I can assure you, it is not possible for the second-generation Spartans to have them.
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But Epilektoi aren't recruited from random places: the represent the elite warriors of a polis. Athenian generals will have Athenian Epilektoi, Corinthian will haves Corinthians, and so on. Spartan hoplites are actually a regional variant of the Epilektoi.
Varying bodyguard type based on traits is not possible in the R:TW engine.
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Its either:
All KH generals have Spartans
Or
All KH generals have the Somatophylakes Strategou (from eb site) and starting Spartans get Spartan guards.
Theres no halfway here, remember the KH represent a unified Greek City state, YOU AREN'T JUST SPARTE.
You could just roleplay that as the KH formed itself into a Unified Greek nation they formed a new elite bodyguard consisting of the best warriors of every city, the Unified guard unit representing a new bond of trust between all Free Greek Polis'
Last edited by Rilder; 03-26-2009 at 17:02.
I said only those with spartiates as ethnicity would get the spartan BG. Did u even read my entire post? And anyway as i already said i doubt a spartan would like to have a greek from who knows where as a BG.
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And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......
seems to me like it was already explained
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Last edited by Rilder; 03-26-2009 at 21:01.
No, no, no i know it can't be done i was just repeting what i said to rilder, who seemed to not have completely read my post, since he said: "Theres no halfway here, remember the KH represent a unified Greek City state, YOU AREN'T JUST SPARTE." tells me that he didn't, since i had just explained that only those with spartan ethnicities would get them. And anyway what exactly is it that blocks us? hardcoding?
Italians do it better! Chi dice donna dice guai. Abbi donna di te minore, se vuoi essere signore. Donne e buoi dei paesi tuoi. Fiume, grondaia e donna parlatora mandano l'uomo di casa fuora.
And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......
Your right med sorry 'bout that i forgot to edit that post since it was written hastefuly and i hadn't finished reading all the posts.
Italians do it better! Chi dice donna dice guai. Abbi donna di te minore, se vuoi essere signore. Donne e buoi dei paesi tuoi. Fiume, grondaia e donna parlatora mandano l'uomo di casa fuora.
And my personal favorite: "Non rimuovere il confine antico fissato dai tuoi padri". In english: "Do not remove the anchent border placed by your fathers". It looses something in the translation......
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