Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Cuthillius]

Esooa not In That pool,

And it’s me cheekily saying you know who the wolves are. Not a real question

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

[ColonelLubriderm]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

This is the most ridiculous thing in the thread by far.

This is clearly a petunia game

[Cuthillius]

also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

[ColonelLubriderm]

ironically i am not at all confident its as easy as monte/manasi/maple

but here's to hoping im wrong

[ColonelLubriderm]

ironically i don't know how to properly use the word ironically

[Visor]

so who are die wolves cuth

and villas i guess

[Maple]

I'm in the PoE but I'm not like in the PoE

People have just silently agreed to kill me on d6 pray

[Cuthillius]

so who are die wolves cuth

and villas i guess

tomorrow morning!

[Montmorency]

Alas, with suspects piling onto Logic like that I was never going to see the push as legitimate. My revised judgement leaves me just as pessimistic as before, but I'm not even going to share it, as it might do more harm than good to air it.

So yeah, do whatever guys, I'm on snooze. I am aware that my lassitude will be a detriment to Town if it derails the day, but I'm bone-drained from yesterday's hysteria. Apologies for the way I carried on.

In my unwinding I'll remind you of sensible, non-controversial organizing principles:

1. Consider D1 Rask wagon tapped out in many worlds
2. Assess risk of 1 deep in D1 dyach wagon
3. Make locating (if not ousting) the at-least-one on the D1 Csargo wagon a priority

gl

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

I feel you more than you know, but that D2 case was crud regardless.

[ColonelLubriderm]

THings that I currently believe:

monte/maple are not w/w.

ara/visor not w/w

Esooa is a V

Cuth/monte are not w/w.

Manti is more villagy than wolfy.

If there is a wolf on csargo it is in hally/monte/ara.

I am currenty villa reading Ara for two terrible reasons that i'm probably not gonna re-evaluate today if ever.

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Things that I hope:

Visor/manasi are villas(Dya d1 wagon)

manti is a villa

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PoE based on hopes

1 in cuth/monte
1 in ara/hally

Hope i'm most likely wrong about:
Dya d1 wagon is all villas

[ColonelLubriderm]

I am not currently ready to chase after my hopes

[Cuthillius]

it wasn't a case lol

you were just objectively wolfy and then people kept asking me to explain a silly read assuming the two people we were gonna have to flip soon regardless of alignment were v

[Montmorency]

I am not currently ready to chase after my hopes

heh

it wasn't a case lol

you were just objectively wolfy and then people kept asking me to explain a silly read assuming the two people we were gonna have to flip soon regardless of alignment were v

*sigh*

Your read, your conceptualization, whatever.

Just know that if you're town, Town losing won't be your fault but mine.

[ColonelLubriderm]

If we have a full even vig:

if they holster we have three eliminations

If they don't we have 2 and their shot

[Montmorency]

If we have a full even vig:

if they holster we have three eliminations

If they don't we have 2 and their shot

Always no-lim (NL) for one round if vig kills town tonight. It's a no-brainer play so I'm comfortable advocating it.

[Esooa]

I would agree, though Montmorency wasn't quite trying to save him more just doing this thunderdome with Maple that was half-joking on Maple's end, which is not something that a partner tends to do in that situation... felt town in general, anyways!! Though will be interesting to see how today goes for him, read-wise!!!

Not really sure what you mean about Visor there; were you previously only bothered about his read on you? Or what changed?

Oh sweet, congratulations!!!

it was something I very much didn't like

Other than that I liked his handling of Logic

[Esooa]

Not going to lie, feels like you're confbiasing there Bop!!!

Dolby was townread by quite a few people early on in the game, both of us included!!

conf biasing where?

[Visor]

is it possible that hally is a wolf who has just seen where teh writing on the wall is regardling logic/dya and then pushed them after theyve got a bit of heat?

maybe its worth looking at hallys pushes prior to dya/dolby getting some actual heat?

(mostly tinfoil here but i figure why not?)

[Esooa]

every daisy game i play recently

this same daisy happens again

i don't tryhard and i end up in the poe and then it's obvious who the wolves are and then people call me a wolf for saying it's obvious who the wolves are

this is not complicated

also i don't mean tryhard as in like owo expectations i feel like i have to tryhard

i'm just saying i've been chronically underengaged in mafia games recently most of the time and ended up just sort of being there and letting other people do stuff as long as it seems good

and then the wolves push me because they can and i'm in the poe because i never get to where i want to be and then i'm like i get why you think i'm a wolf but like this isn't a broad poe and then people say you suck what are you doing saying you're fairly confident on the wolves

and sure i get it but it's old and the logic is not exactly hard to grasp

feel a little bit weird about these posts

I remembered a post from him a while ago reading them



which may have been the case but honestly his annoyance here feels kinda overblown which makes me think he's trying to fake that

thoughts on them?

[Visor]

Vote: Hally

[Esooa]

is it possible that hally is a wolf who has just seen where teh writing on the wall is regardling logic/dya and then pushed them after theyve got a bit of heat?

maybe its worth looking at hallys pushes prior to dya/dolby getting some actual heat?

(mostly tinfoil here but i figure why not?)

it's possible, both of them were very bussable regardless with how they were playing, but I think Hally has been very towny irrespective of her pushes onto wolves

[Esooa]

interested in why Bop is saying 1 in Hally/Ara

I think both of them are very likely town, less sure about Ara because I have less experience with her but I've felt good about ~everything she's posted

[Esooa]

I like how Manasi has less posts in this thread than Zack lol

[Visor]

tier list, esooa? wheres your head at

[Esooa]

roughly where im at.

and the 1 over the top section doesnt mean 0-1, it means i think one is a wolf but im not gonna worry about it today

oh, Bop was saying 1 in Visor/Hally/Ara previously too lol

Any specific reason why you're thinking so?

[Esooa]

I reread some SoD2 stuff to see who brought up the Logic mentioning GH god read stuff and I'm pretty sure now Manti is town

[Esooa]

tier list, esooa? wheres your head at

Hally
Arapocalypse
Maple
ColonelLubriderm
Visor
Montmorency
Manasi
Cuthillius

Not too sure how to sort the people on the top cause I'm currently feeling pretty reasonably everyone down to Bop is town and Visor/Monty I still feel like are which makes me worried I'm probably misreading someone so looking over that today is good

Unless it's exactly Manasi/Cuth lol

A little surprised at Monty being so low but ehhhhhhhhh he doesn't really feel like he should be higher

[Esooa]

I disagree, I don't think there's been a general consensus to any degree approaching that of rocks; while individual people have said they think all the wolves are within a specific pool I haven't gotten the impression that there are many people who are general blind spots or that people's reads are lining up to an unusual or unhealthy degree.

The village read I'm most uncertain about is probably Eph, because I think he deserves more credit than he gets for his play, but I have a lot of people who are still fairly unsorted and I don't think I've really forced myself to come to any conclusions consciously or subconsciously this game so I'm both pretty happy with where I'm at in terms of town reads and think there's plenty of wiggle room.

very wolfy post

[Esooa]

vote: Raskolnikov

Official Tally as of #1068

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)
2 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius)

1 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Maple (Esooa)

Not Voting: Maple

Cuth has posted basically nothing on Csargo at this point, and can definitely justify a vote on him at this point. He's expressed not liking Ampharos (Raskol slot) a decent amount, so I think voting here an hour before EoD while Dya is tied looks good for him

[Esooa]

Still like Eph, think Esooa's like 75% to me locking her in but hasn't quite gotten to the depth I'd look for.