Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Sunbae]

i gotta say i think ghs push on ephemeral has been very weak stuff

and i think eph has pushed it aside fine

Fwiw, I think GH actually showing an interest in other people listening to his stuff on Ephem rather than just making the post and letting it sit there is rather different than the way he was casing others in the last game.

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #991

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

2 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor)
2 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief, dyachei)
2 GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius, Ephemeral)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

1 Cuthillius (Maple)
1 Dolby (Csargo)
1 Maple (Esooa)
1 Raskolnikov (pzelda)

Not Voting: Manasi

[Sunbae]

Someone tell me what's been going on smh

Not really much honestly. I don't think anyone has made a super compelling case anywhere (including myself)

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: dyachei

i'll give you some time raskol

but you got an uphill battle d2

Why Visor? Can u walk me through your read here? (I would ISO you but I think I won't have time today and will invest some in it only if u become a wagon tbh)

[Csargo]

Right, so my experience with Monty has basically been the games on CFC, and let's take Star Trek and the Franklin ship cannibal game that I was hosting as examples of his town play.

In both games he had absolutely awful takes. I remember the Star Trek game better, but to outline, he pretty much voted with who maf wanted everyday. This did catch him some heat but people were able to find him as town because despite having the objectively worst vote record of a living player at that point he had a followable process and his method was alright. People did not find him in Franklin, but from what I remember of what I thought then, I thought his process was alright.

Compare that to Princes, where he was maf, I thought that he was maf instantly. This is kinda astounding because this was multiball and he could augment his fake reads with legitimate solving for the other team, but he was off instantly. Reads didn't seem to have a followable process until he somewhat adapted in the later game, was quite clearly pushing an agenda in his posts from D2, and everything he said was WHACK with capital letters. He also had a clear hard time getting into the thread state early game. I think that the way he's adapted "early game" this game has been alright and par for the course on how he normally does things, and I think a few of the points that I've seen from people are invalid and really shouldn't have been brought up normally (pzelda coming to mind of course)

I don't find Monty to have a followable process most of the time, that's how I feel about pzelda a lot as well. For me they're both hard to follow imo. I'll go back and look at both and see if I can see what you're seeing.

[Visor]

Why Visor? Can u walk me through your read here? (I would ISO you but I think I won't have time today and will invest some in it only if u become a wagon tbh)

sunbae would better explain it

but basically dya is super lacking in energy/solving

real big 'dont want to be here' energy

hasnt done any of their solving type posts they normally do as villa

[dyachei]

honestly don't remember why I voted him

but I don't have any real feelings regarding him rn

wait...you don't remember why you voted someone?

[Sunbae]

sunbae would better explain it

but basically dya is super lacking in energy/solving

real big 'dont want to be here' energy

hasnt done any of their solving type posts they normally do as villa

After thinking about it I think the combo of her frustration towards me for "having an entirely different conversation", kinda just sponging GH, changing her opinion me for how I've handled her, responding to Ara's "who are you wrong about" question with Ara, and showing a general skepticism towards Colonel when I mentioned them as a town read all kinda fit in with the narrative of a town player just kinda commenting on things that come to mind as they are in the thread.

[Manasi]

i can't wait until tomorrow when ppl say my EOD was subpar and i just hopped onto a wagon when nobody is TALKING TO MEEEEEEEEEEE

First mafia game in a while and those mtgs phases are lookin mighty fine.

[Manasi]

vote: Dyachei

any spongers

[Ephemeral]

After thinking about it I think the combo of her frustration towards me for "having an entirely different conversation", kinda just sponging GH, changing her opinion me for how I've handled her, responding to Ara's "who are you wrong about" question with Ara, and showing a general skepticism towards Colonel when I mentioned them as a town read all kinda fit in with the narrative of a town player just kinda commenting on things that come to mind as they are in the thread.

mmm

sorry but all of this is kinda like

really weak stuff that's comfortably fakeable for dya as a wolf I think?

[Esooa]

Sunbae, any thoughts on my Eph case?

I domt really want to

Out of laziness more than anything

But I'll give the cliff notes. Sadly, I don't have time to actually make it sound balling like I'd like

Esooa is in the game and posting. They have like the third or fourth most posts? They're claiming to have read and reread the game.

They post reads. The details are sparse but clustered. Village reads are easy. You've read the game, they look nice.

Their push on me.

Only 1 wolf read, and it's an easy consensus one to make.

The only one, but the sources cited are all very early into the thread. All posts cited are before post 200. In my experience, this (claim to read everything, out reads, find a rational in the beginning then make vague gestures for the rest)

Typically comes from wolves.

I do it. Others do it. It's a sign sign the shit you're saying is bullshit. It's not uncommon, and their read on me feels precisely like that. Their reads are nonoffensive and basic.

Ultimately, the read pings me. If it were d2 in a mash I'd do my song and dance of:

"Double down your read on me or rescind it or I'll [negative action/ITA/etc.] On you"; in mountainous desperado, I'd say "either shoot me or I'll shoot you", like with Para.

That's my general feeling at the moment.

don't really like this at all. Most strongly because of the way Manti uses my post count and having "read and reread" the game was justification for this while not caring about the context of that. Such as my reread being specifically done because I didn't have any wolf reads that felt comfortable.

[Csargo]

Vote:Esooa

[Ephemeral]

hi manasi ur pfp cute

hows stuff

[Sunbae]

mmm

sorry but all of this is kinda like

really weak stuff that's comfortably fakeable for dya as a wolf I think?

It's totally possible. I'm not very confident on it but that's my gut read atm. I could just be getting pushed off by the whole oog stuff affecting my read.

[dyachei]

vote: esooa

i may be hardly present but I know why I voted for people i've voted for

[Visor]

give us some takes OFF THE DOME

manasi

[Ephemeral]

It's totally possible. I'm not very confident on it but that's my gut read atm. I could just be getting pushed off by the whole oog stuff affecting my read.

Aye that's perfectly understandable, it's somewhat sitting on my mind too

but it also had me turn a blind eye to a pretty obv wolf in team game while I was in

so I'm also kind of like, trying to make sure it doesn't happen again lol

[Csargo]

i can't wait until tomorrow when ppl say my EOD was subpar and i just hopped onto a wagon when nobody is TALKING TO MEEEEEEEEEEE

First mafia game in a while and those mtgs phases are lookin mighty fine.

Welcome to my life.

[Raskolnikov]

sunbae would better explain it

but basically dya is super lacking in energy/solving

real big 'dont want to be here' energy

hasnt done any of their solving type posts they normally do as villa

Tx!

But I was asking about your read on Amy (Ampharos?) lol

[Sunbae]

Aye that's perfectly understandable, it's somewhat sitting on my mind too

but it also had me turn a blind eye to a pretty obv wolf in team game while I was in

so I'm also kind of like, trying to make sure it doesn't happen again lol

yeah totally understandable. I have a habit of quickly picking up on someone being scum and then convincing myself otherwise (see my pushing of GH d1 in rock and started d2 calling Manti's hider post the wolfiest post in the thread and then 180ing) so it wouldn't shock me if I was right about dya initially and then let the other stuff convince me otherwise.

[Ephemeral]

vote: esooa

i may be hardly present but I know why I voted for people i've voted for

Then tell us?

I mean you're here rn, surely you could throw a few words at least

[Visor]

Tx!

But I was asking about your read on Amy (Ampharos?) lol

i wrote a case on that a while back

basically

word choice/phrasing
reading me as a villager early

[dyachei]

Then tell us?

I mean you're here rn, surely you could throw a few words at least

I mean, it's clear why I'm voting esooa, no?

I voted her (not sure on your pronouns, sorry) because she's claiming to have forgotten why she voted someone

I voted you because I think you should be able to see how different gh compared to rocks and team game

[Raskolnikov]

I liked Dolbster's post about Montmo. Mostly because I nodded several times while reading and because it doesn't strike me as a pocket. So I am going to villa read both of them for the next 3 hours.

[Ephemeral]

I mean, it's clear why I'm voting esooa, no?

I voted her (not sure on your pronouns, sorry) because she's claiming to have forgotten why she voted someone

I voted you because I think you should be able to see how different gh compared to rocks and team game

mmkay, is that all?

What about esooa's/my posts as a whole?

And how is GH simply behaving somewhat differently from his other two games enough to be clearing?

[dyachei]

mmkay, is that all?

What about esooa's/my posts as a whole?

And how is GH simply behaving somewhat differently from his other two games enough to be clearing?

because his tone is way different. and yes, it's enough to be clearing because I think if gh rolled wolf here, he'd be dejected.

I've admitted I haven't been able to follow this game as well, so I'm going with what I see when i see it

[Raskolnikov]

OK, I am gonna dig it finally Visor. Don't expect any sort of slot defense though (I am sure u don't)

[Manasi]

hi manasi ur pfp cute

hows stuff

hi ur cute

stuff ok, busy week so far but gonna get a lot easier after tomorrow morning feelsgoodman

how u

give us some takes OFF THE DOME

manasi

man idk

dya's push on esooa is weird

i've only read things on this page and barely

ephemeral/sunbae seem good

HOT TAKES

[dyachei]

eph it feels very much like you want me to play the game like i normally do when I simply cannot this game

and when I do start to get into it I just get more why aren't you playing the way I want you to play?

because I'm busy