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    Default A historically-accurate Roman conquest timeline

    This is another exercise related to my Guide, ensuring people are taking settlements when they should be. I'd appreciate input and critique on dates, I've primarily used UNRV for specific dates, along with backing some of them up with The Fall of Carthage and Roman Warfare by Adrian Goldsworthy. I've only really gone as far as the Augustan Reforms.

    A real question which could become a set of instructions all of it's own is how to deal with "independent, but allied" settlements, for example Massilia, Arse, Emporion, Syrakousai and Iuvovoaeta. Some were later conquered, but how could they best be represented? Taken and given a long string of type IV governments? The bigger question is whether each settlement needs a consideration of how they were historically Romanised. Some were immediately made provinces, others took much longer.

    Here's the list in chronological order:

    272: Taras
    270: Rhegion, Bononia
    264: Messana
    258: Alalia
    240: Lilibeo (by treaty)
    238BC: Raid Segesta, hold until Polybian reforms
    237: Karali
    229/8: Segestica, Dalmanion, Epidamnos
    224: Patavium
    222: Mediolanium
    221: Arse?
    219: Lose Arse to Qarthadast
    218: Segesta
    217-203/191: Lose then regain Segesta, Mediolanium, Patavium
    216-211: Lose then regain Capua
    212-209: Lose then regain Tarentum
    215: Regain Arse, Emporion?
    211: Syrakousai
    209: Mastia
    206: Gader
    204-202: Raid Kirtan, invade Africa
    200: Bocchoris (by treaty)
    200: Raid Pella
    197-179: Baikor
    188: Asia Minor ceded by Seleukids to Pergamum
    181-179: Raid Numantia
    167: Ambrakia, Epidamnos; Raid Pella; Makedonia made protectorate
    157-5: Raid Vindobona
    154: Segesta
    154-139: Oxtraca (client state), Lusitania (client state)
    147: Pella, Demetrius
    146: Qart-Hadast (expel), Adrumento, Atiqa, Lepki; Raid Ippone and any other Qartadastim holdings
    146: Korinthos (expel), Thermon, Chalkis, Athenai, Sparte
    138: Sucum-Murgi
    137: Tyde (client state), Galaecia (client state)
    133: Numantia (siege), Pergamon, Sardis, Mytilene, Ipsos, Side (bequest)
    129: Hallikarnassos
    121: Tolosa, Viennos
    105: Ippone, Siga, Lixus (all client kingdoms)
    101: Tarsos
    96: Kyrene (bequest)
    91-88: Social War; possibly allow Italian settlements to rebel and re-take.
    91-88: Lose Asia Province (Pergamaon, Sardis, Hallikarnassos, Mytilene, Ipsos, Side) and Greece (Athenai, Sparte, Korinthos) to Pontos
    86: Regain Asia Province (but not Tarsos, Halikarnassos client kingdom) and Greece;
    80: Mytilene revolts
    75: Raid Singidunum, Serdike, Naissos
    74 Bithynia-Pontus created and lost
    71: Heraclea?
    70: Amaseia, Sinope, Trapezous
    68-63: Krete
    67: Regain Tarsos
    66: Antiocheia, Damaskos, Sidon (Syria province created)
    64: Ankyra (client state), Hierosolymia (client state)
    63: Trapezous, Mazaka (client state)
    62: Nikaia regained
    61: Lose then regain Oxtraca/Lusitana, Lose then regain Viennos
    58: Salamis
    51: Loss of Syria to Pahlava? Or just raided?
    58-51: Gergovia, Viennos, Burgidala, Lemonum, Avaricum, Bibracte, Cenabum, Darioritum, Bratoporios, Vesontio, Bagacos
    55-54: Raid Camulosadae
    49: Massilia
    30: Egypt annexed (Paraitonion, Alexandria, Memphis, Dispolis-Megale, Pselkis)
    29-6AD: Singidunum, Serdike, Naissos, Tylis
    25: Ankyra (province)
    16: Iuvovoaeta
    15: Veldideno
    9: Vindobona
    8: Vindelicoppolis, Mrog Arctegone, Gawjam-Heruskoz, Gawjam-Habukoz

    9AD: Lose Vindelicoppolis, Mrog Arctegone, Gawjam-Heruskoz, Gawjam-Habukoz to Sweboz

    There are question marks, because I'm not sure whether some settlements fall under the areas concerned. Furthermore, I may have made some mistakes or omissions along the way.

    A completely ancillary issue is the Marian reforms as they're coded in the game, namely that I think the province requisite is too high if you're playing historically. You might have about 48 provinces in 110BC. I know it's been dropped from 50 to 45, but I still think that's a little high. The automatic one strikes me as a little pointless; at 90 provinces you're well beyond the scope of the historical empire and long after victory conditions. My own preference would be to raise the trigger to about 130BC, drop the province limit to around 35 and make it automatic at 90BC or something like that. But that really is a separate issue to this timeline, just something made clear by doing this.

    Comments welcome.
    Last edited by QuintusSertorius; 08-02-2008 at 12:06.
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