Ok, so game has been out for 2 years now...

[Kadagar_AV]

Too much censorship on these boards.

[Jason X]

cool - a retro thread. i'll try and dig out the clothes i was wearing back in jan 2007

[Ratwar]

You know, this reminds me of a certain Gordon Frohman comic...

Anyways, yes there are still multiple things wrong with MTW2. The same could be said about basically any game that is as ambitious as the Total War series. Creating a AI that can react to the TRILLIONS of possible inputs from the player is hard enough. Making them react to all the inputs rationally is practically impossible. You want a strategy AI capable of passing a Turing Test, they just don't exist.

Now, if you want horrible AI, I would suggest a game like Star Wars Rebellion.

[Gaiseric]

These things frustrate me too. I've just started playing MTW2 again but will likely put it back on the shelf in about a month for these same reasons. I played RTW recently and could see the major improvements in alot of areas. Many more improvements will probably be released in future versions. There are also many good mods around that fix a few things and add more depth to the game.

When MTW2 first came out I loved it. It was only after I played it too much that I realized some of its flaws. I would still say the game is great and I definatly got my moneys worth. I paid retail prices for both MTW2 and its expansion and I am still getting enjoyment out of playing its campaigns. The replayability for this game is huge compared to other games on the market with playtimes as low as 40 hours. A great game for the casual gamer.

Us diehard gamers on the forums have got our moneys worth for the game and now we are seeing that it has some major flaws. I would absolutley love another patch or two, but I think that it would be pretty unlikely 2 years after the release. For now, all that we can do is hope and pray that the next TW game will be better, and that it will give modders more access to fix things that the devs dont patch.

[pevergreen]

Discussion about E:TW has taken place, and not only are CA claiming vast improvements, those that have played it are confirming it. With Lusted/Jack Lusted working for CA, you can be sure it will be good.

Khadgar, our differences aside () I honestly don't see the value of bringing up a post that basically says "Oh no, CA are bad because they stopped patching a game." Yes, its still bugged, but complaining about a lack of patches when we know we werent going to get anymore is a bit pointless IMO.

[Akka]

Discussion about E:TW has taken place, and not only are CA claiming vast improvements

On the other hand, they ALWAYS said that for every single of their new game...
To be fair, EVERYONE in the industry ALWAYS say that for every single of their new game :p

In other words, it's meaningless ^^

those that have played it are confirming it.

That is, actually, a much more noticeable point.

Khadgar, our differences aside () I honestly don't see the value of bringing up a post that basically says "Oh no, CA are bad because they stopped patching a game." Yes, its still bugged, but complaining about a lack of patches when we know we werent going to get anymore is a bit pointless IMO.

Well, not really, it makes the point. I am part of the people who won't buy E:TW due to the long history of CA not making their previous games works properly. Making sure that they understand how they did piss off many of their customers with the "half-finished game" practice is not useless.