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    Member Member sdrga's Avatar
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    Default No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    I hope this does not raise the ire of the moderators. I made an honest effort to peruse the FAQ looking for information concerning Speculation on Gold and Release. I pride myself on being a law-abiding and constructive member of any online community I'm a part of, so let me know if this is inappropriate...

    Assuming it's OK...

    For those who do not frequent the .Com forums, I'll direct you to the following link which leads to the last couple of pages of our "Official Release Date Speculation Thread".

    I'm more sure than I've ever been that Gold will come tomorrow (Thursday PDT). You'll have to judge for yourself. Specifically look for the posts by "tommh" in the thread linked below.

    tommh is the "real deal", and exactly what he says he is, but again, that's just my opinion. I've watched his posts over time.

    Feel free to disagree with this, but the question will be all settled by this time tomorrow, so type fast.

    Here's the thread (look to the very bottom of that first page):


    http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...t=441&stop=460

    In addition, for those who don't know, they'll be a chat by the devs on Gamespy on Friday 2:30PM, PDT.

    Here's proof of that from their GameSpy Insider newsletter screenshot, which one of our posters got a screen shot of:

    img34.exs.cx/img34/9787/devchat.jpg

    I'm not planning to join their little Insider deal, but someone will be sure to post a transcript as soon as possible after it concludes.
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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    im in no hurry but if its so thats great heh

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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    Thats fast, u think they had any time to make some modifications to the full game? I think not.....
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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    I believe it. One week to manufacture and box the game, another week to ship it to retailers for the 9/22 release date.
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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    Jeanne, I doubt they would have fixed it any way. It's up to the modders to make it the best game it can and should be.
    And this is excellent news if true!

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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    here's where the patch come in
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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    If you read between the lines on some of tommh's posts (linked above) you get the distinct impression that CA wasn't necessarily pleased with the demo as it was released, either.

    I can't remember where I saw it, but it was someone I considered to fairly reliable, either an actual dev or someone like tommh, but the development on the game and the demo was on seperate tracks for about the last 2-3 months of development.

    I'm a dev myself, although not in the game field, but the principle is the same: here is what was probably the approximate sequence of events:

    1. A beta build is selected to be the basis for the demo.

    2. That code is basically butchered to create a scripted subset of the actual game. It becomes its own development effort, usually with a much smaller staff, and usually not the most advanced developers, either: it's a demo.

    3 The two pieces of software become progressively more different as time goes on. Which means....

    There is no realistic way, without a lot of hassle, to just magically incorporate the changes made as the actual game progresses into the demo.

    This would mean that there is 2-3 months of refinement plus additional refinement since the demo release that is not showing up in the demo.

    The 2-3 months may be a total WAG, but there is no doubt that the above sequence had to occur that way. Maybe it was 4-6 months, I doubt any less than 2 months.

    Why is this important? It totally blows away the argument that "the demo is what's going to be in the game". It simply cannot be true. From a development perspective it's, practically speaking, impossible.

    Look to be very pleasantly surprised by the actual game since it's 2 - 6 months ahead of the demo.
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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    I hope that 9/9 is the gold date. We shall find out fairly soon.

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    Default Re: No Joke: GOLD Thursday, 9/9 P.D.T

    Quote Originally Posted by sdrga
    If you read between the lines on some of tommh's posts (linked above) you get the distinct impression that CA wasn't necessarily pleased with the demo, either.
    by which I am very excited about.,.. particularly this quote in which he says:

    They told me that many people didn't want to release the Demo at all, but marketing pressed for it to get the cover of CGW.
    which makes me hope (perhaps foolheartedly) that the demo was really crappy compared to how the full game will be

    *crosses fingers*
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