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    Question Too many scars

    I havn't noticed this before, so this should be result of the 1.2 patch. So far too many generals in the game has got Cruelly Scarred trait. I started to research this, and found some inconsistences
    1) there are two rules that assign BattleScarred trait first is for everyone and second is for romans, but since for everyone means for romans too, this gives roman generals additional chance to get a scar.
    2) There is an identifier GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle which determines whether general got scare or not, somewhere it's percents like (80) in heroic saviour for example, and somewhere it's rate like 0.3 in BattleScar assignment. So obviuosly this is a bug.
    Then I started to research what is the correct value and what is not, so for test purpose i set chance to get scare to 100 and strarted to test it on Julii campaign start.
    I suspected that this identifier means how much hp general lost after the battle, this seems pretty logical. But after one battle my general got Cruelly Scarred trait (threshhold 4) after only 1 battle, and general was standing during all battle, so this is obviously not related to the generals hp. Then looking at the fact that threshhold gone from 0 to at least 4, this means that the trigger was tested several times, i.e. probably for every group that was under this general command or for both sides (romans and barbarians)
    If you change the number from 0.3 to 30 (it should mean 30%) this means trigger will stop to work at all, after 6 battle replays my general hasn't got any scare (don't forget I set chance to 100).
    Then it's clear that you have no chance to get Heroic Saviour or Shieldbearer to your character since they are test GeneralHPLostRatioinBattle with numbers more then 1, i.e. percents. (I also run several tests with GeneralHP... set at 1 and got the same results as with 30).
    So does anybody have an idea how to make this GeneralHP... work correctly? Since I suspect that chance to get scar should be related to generals lost hp.
    Last edited by Oracle; 02-11-2005 at 10:00.

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    Default Re: Too many scares

    No idea what to do about it, no. But it's good to see I'm not the only one getting lots of scarred generals. Just about all family members that take part in battle receive scars to some degree. In my current Julii game the faction leader and one of his sons are both called Scarface. Thanks, I needed the loss of two Influence points.
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    I apologize for not having a more specific set of information (I'm pretty new to modding TW) ... but there is a set of traits associated with Battle-scarred that for each of the four levels is set at 1, 2, 3, and 4.

    I went ahead and changed the last two levels to be 6 and 9, and I now have yet to have another "Scarface" appear after many many battles with my general.

    Basically, by changing the 3, and 4 #s, I think that I have altered the number of HPs that my general needs to lose, or perhaps the number of battles he needs to fight in or something along those lines... but in any event, it certainly has drastically reduced the number of level 3 and level 4 scarred individuals in my family, which means that I end up with less influence inhibited and "Scarface" named generals running around!

    Again -- apologies for the lack of true detail as to which parameter specifically to change. However, if you look in the section where the 4 scarred levels are, I think that it will be fairly clear what I am talking about. Hope so, anyhow!

    Cheers.

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    Default Re: Too many scares

    Take a look in the General RTW Modification forum. There is a good thread discussing it presently, you might be able to contribute or benefit from it.
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    Default Re: Too many scares

    Waaaay too many scars. Bug for sure.

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    If anyone has done any testing on this and wants to contribute, or if you just want the results of current testing, here's the thread:

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...d=1#post692136
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