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    I have mostly played as Sweboz and tried my hand as Pontus tonight. After finally defeating the rebel scum in Ani-Kamah (the first battle against them showed me the effectiveness of Bydirag Baexdzhyntae against my Pantopadoi Phanlangite) I decided to build a mine.

    In the description of the mine it says it should give me 200 bucks a turn and I think hmmn....then it takes me 24 turns to get into profit (as the mine costs 4000 and takes 4 turns to build) But when I finished the mine it says in the city managment that I only make 88 bucks a turn from the mine.
    This means that it will take me 49 turns to make profit from those blasted mines.....and 4000 bucks is something that people can ill afford in the game.

    IMHO I think mines should be a little more valuable as I assaulted Ani-Kamah just to get those mines to supplement my income.


    But I am having good time playing as Pontus. I made the mistake of taking a 8 units of Pantopadoi Phanlangite against 4 units of Gaesate and some other troops in Ankyra. Boy did I get spanked My Palangite ran home like crying for their mommy.

    Then I got spanked again in the first battle for Ani-Kamah where the Rebels fielded 5 units of Bydirag Baexdzhyntae with bowmen and spearmen to suppliment them. My Phalangite was no match for them and got shot to snailsnot after my javelin throwing horsemen routed.

    I must be a masochist but I am having great fun
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    Indeed. Mines should probably be rare but when you do get 'em, they should be quite worthwhile. It would add a nice strategic aspect to the game.

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    Plans are afoot to address this, included a replacement of gold and silver with large and small vein precious metals. In the next patch a large vein mine (fully upgraded) will produce about the same income as a large city.
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    Sounds good. How much would a large city income you're referring to be about?

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    Do a little leg work man, open the scroll .

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    QwertyMIDX Plans are afoot to address this, included a replacement of gold and silver with large and small vein precious metals. In the next patch a large vein mine (fully upgraded) will produce about the same income as a large city.
    That sounds good. In the meantime I'll try to find something to nitpick on
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    T'is good Nightstar.. Norsk?


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    Nei ikke norsk men islandsk men jeg bor i Oslo.
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    ok orntlig viking m.a.o.


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    er den type språk lovlig her? heia norge

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    oh dear.


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    Ja mata Tosa Inu-sama, Hore Tore, Adrian II, Sigurd, Fragony

    Mouzafphaerre is known elsewhere as Urwendil/Urwendur/Kibilturg...
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    are there any Danish here?

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    Give me a week and I will start writing in newspeak.

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    imr die elände skandinavier, verpeschte unseri threads on lalle seich.

    heh

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    Ni shuole shenme?
    Oh, and also the Roman and Seleucid flags seem to be switched.

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    Heyriði strákar mínir....nú er þetta bara komið út í vitleysu...hættið að ræna þræðinum mínum
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeroFromVero
    Ni shuole shenme?
    Chinese huh?...

    Where're you from, Mero? (I'm guessing not Vero )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad Dei Majora Gloriam
    Chinese huh?...

    Where're you from, Mero? (I'm guessing not Vero )
    Vero Beach, Florida! Danshi wo xianzai zai Xiaweiyi.
    Last edited by MeroFromVero; 01-10-2006 at 19:33.
    Oh, and also the Roman and Seleucid flags seem to be switched.

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    Back on topic, could you make the city with the mine more likely to rebel, i think that a city wiht the resources a mine would provide (money money money) would think more carefully about its independance than a poor state that is a real drain on the empire that controls it, maybe you could script something to allow for unseen plotting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitful
    Back on topic, could you make the city with the mine more likely to rebel, i think that a city wiht the resources a mine would provide (money money money) would think more carefully about its independance than a poor state that is a real drain on the empire that controls it, maybe you could script something to allow for unseen plotting?
    That makes a good amount of sense. However, from what I understand, rebellion and most matters concerning it are hardcoded... is this true or is the idea a possibility?

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    At the most basic level it is simply a decrease in public order, but i think it can be done more sutebly than that, what about giving the governors of these high level mine provinces a trait which increases public order after a certain amount of time that goes away again after he leaves the settlement?

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    It might make sense but it's not really history, there's no real evidence for provinces with large mining industries rebelling more. In fact poor provinces seem to have been the ones up in arms the most (nothing to lose?).
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