Inca - Total War

[Rex_Pelasgorum]

I observed that as a rule,when creating a mod, most modders focus either on Europe (ancient, medieval or renaissance), or Asia.

There is no mod focusing on South American pre-columbian history, altough i think, the potential for such a mod would be awesome.

I`m just thinking at a hypothetical mod, recreating the rise of the Inca Empire, its fights whith different other nations , etc. The history of pre-columbian South America is farr more complex than it seems, whith many many factions, cultures and even some city states...

There are plenty of historicall sources... the best of them, i think, is the book Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca , altough it presents the facts from a catholic (bust still indian...) point of view. Historicall research would be criticall, but suprisingly more simple than the one necesarry for creating, for example, an ancient mod... quite much info has been left about the Incas.

Challenges for creating such a mod, would be multiple... new cultures would need to be created, including new building looks on the battlefield, etc. Creating some adequate wonders (such as the Temple of the Sun from the island in Titicaca, or the Piramid from Chimu, or the Underground water tunnels from Nazca, etc), would also recuire plenty, and plenty of time wasted in front of the PC...

Map would also be a problem... i think making a good relief for the rugged altiplano, some nice jungles for the Amazonian areas, would push the modders abilities to the limits.

Units would also need alot of working... there was no cavalry in those times... balancing the armies should mean also lots, and lots of work.

Good scripters should be needed. A campaign whith no script, is an empty campaign, and historicall accuracy should be the prime concern for any mod of this kind.

The ending date of such a campaign would be the year of the first spanish incursion... the spanish conquest was , from a military point of view, a lucky annomaly, and i dont think it can be represented in any way using the TW engine.

Normally, now i should come here whith some screenshots.... howewer, i am not a moder, and i dont think i will ever be. I do lack pacience.... and my knowledge in informatics, and PC, is not very consistent.

I wont make any "call to arms" for modders. I know most of the people currently think at MTW2, or work on different projects, etc. If i could have the modding abilities, i would have done it myself.

If someone is interested in such a project, i am eager to help whith all what i can... considering how farr the moding has went so farr, i think making such a mod would be possible....

whith friendship and respect,
Rex Pelasgorum

[ByzantineKnight]

Great concept!!

I am intrested, but I'm not sure if I will be able to help, I'll tell you as soon as I know.

[Bwian]

I thought someone started a mod about this period. Can't find any trace of it though. It would provide quite an interesting base for a mod. Don't know much about the cultures around at the same time...but I am sure there was enough complexity.

[Silver Rusher]

I thought someone started a mod about this period. Can't find any trace of it though. It would provide quite an interesting base for a mod. Don't know much about the cultures around at the same time...but I am sure there was enough complexity.

Yeah, I remember seeing it but I think it died.

[Rex_Pelasgorum]

1. Technicall posibilities for creating such a mod exist... for example, jungle - no problem, modders have already enabled them, altiplano would be also easy to recreate.
2. There are alot of modders who can really make wonders.... just look at all those awesome mods !
3. Whe have plenty of historicall sources, than not to forget, the language of the Inca empire is still a living language, giving unit names, titles, would`nt mean just inventing stuff.
4. I never seen any historically acurate depiction of the Inca in any grand strategy game to the moment... We could be the first ones to attempt depicting accurately that age, that culture...
5. The gameplay would be quite different... no cavalry thats for sure... howewer the prospect of having at least 5 or 6 grand factions to play whith , plus numerous others less known... and a shadowing faction to the Inca Empire (for recreating the civil wars) - so BI would be better, it would mean plenty of good gameplay.Whe just need to pick a timeframe which would necesarily end most lately at the historicall death of Huaina Capac -1527

Here is a map of Inca Empire around 1438 :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:L...diate-peru.png

This area i think should be covered in a campaign map, of course, whith more factions which are not represented on the map but are mentioned in the books or other sources (such as the Araucans to the extrem south who stopped both the Inca and the Spanish expansion).

I am intrested, but I'm not sure if I will be able to help, I'll tell you as soon as I know.

I hope you will join this mod.... and i hope many other modders will join to help us.

I thought someone started a mod about this period. Can't find any trace of it though. It would provide quite an interesting base for a mod.

If we could just find those people... and make them join again in such a project !!


I ASK FOR HELP FROM EVERY MODDER FROM THE ORG TO HELP MAKING SUCH A UNIQUE MOD...

P.S: i know there is MTW 2 coming in hot... but making such a mod would surely give a boost of originality to RTW.

[ByzantineKnight]

I hope you will join this mod.... and i hope many other modders will join to help us.

I can join!!

[caravel]

Garcilaso de la Vega el Inca , altough it presents the facts from a catholic (bust still indian...) point of view.

Can I recommend John Hemming's "Conquests of the Incas" and WH Prescott's "History of the Conquest of Peru". Garcilaso de la Vega was what was commonly termed at the time as a "mestizo", that is a "half blood", and did make use of some poetic license. Necessary reading though of course.

I expect the earliest culture you'll be dealing with is Moche which should make your task somewhat easier, though not much.

[Rex_Pelasgorum]

Good images, Motep

I expect the earliest culture you'll be dealing with is Moche which should make your task somewhat easier, though not much.

Actually not Moche, but Chimu. Chimu is, technically, a sort of Late Moche... From my readings, it will be for certain the most interesting culture to depict...


Also, about Chachapoyas : www.chachapoyas.com

[Motep]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muisca

This one was in columbia, and yes...it WAS a spainish-conquest era nation.
Called the Muisca.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaran%C3%AD
These are the Guarani, who occupied the area between panama and the amazon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaguitas
These guys, the Diaguitas, had a barbaric-like organized tribe thing going on. They lived the area of Argentina.

[Motep]

We are practically flying through this thing...hopefully we can sort out the basics (maps, backrounds,a few texts, ect) by the end of the month.

p.s i cannot get the map program to load up...hopefully i can get it to work by tomorrow...or maybe the weekend.

[ByzantineKnight]

We are practically flying through this thing...hopefully we can sort out the basics (maps, backrounds,a few texts, ect) by the end of the month.

p.s i cannot get the map program to load up...hopefully i can get it to work by tomorrow...or maybe the weekend.

So you will work on the map!! If you look here it might help.

[Motep]

except for bolas and the awqalli the Aymara roster is complete (i have no idea what to put as the weapon for the bolas or the awqalli, so ill wait for the skins to show before i do them).
the results have been sent to byzantine. Ill start on the incan units later today.

[Caius]

CF reporting from Mendoza!!

Well, im not in home, so , im unable to continue the second part.