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    Council Speaker:

    This session of The Teutonic Order Council is now open! It will end at Sunday 0:00 GMT when a one-day voting session will open. Now is the time to propose edicts for seconding and for those aspiring to become Kanzler to declare their candidacy.


    OOC: Speak IC in this thread. At the time of the start, the Hochmeister has not yet assigned the following generals to a house:

    OrdenMarschall Maximillian
    Hans
    Dietrich

    He must declare the Dukes of Prussia and Livonia and assign the remaining general to a house.

    Note: OrdenMarschall Maximillian has OOCly been planned to be the Duke of Livonia, Hans Duke of Prussia, and Dietrich a General of the House of Livonia. This is up to Hochmeister Gunther to confirm IC. Then the Duke of the leftover general needs to give him a county so he can get the necessary countship influence bonus.
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    Hochmeister Gunther walks into the council room, followed by a small retinue of aids and scribes. He appears a bit uncomfortable, as if speaking to a Council rather than an army is unusual for him.

    Brothers, as you all know this is a historic occassion. This Diet is our first, and represents our first attempt at a more popular form of government for the Order's territories.

    As such, there are a few things I need to take care of.

    First, it is well known which settlements are allocated to which Orders. However, the issue of the capital, to be controlled personally by the Hochmeister. Although the current capital of the Order is Marienburg, the greatest castle of the Order, I would like it to be the capital of the Prussian Masterdom. As Prussia is already the smaller of the two Masterdoms, and lacks a major city like Riga, I think this is best to ensure parity between them.

    I would informally propose that Konigsburg, located right in the center of our territories, be made the capital. This is not a formal proposal, and I welcome the opinions of the other electors.

    Next, and more important, is the naming of Meisters and assigning of Masterdoms. I am naming OrdensMarschall Maximillian the Meister of the Livonian Masterdom. Elector Hans will henceforth become the Meister of the Prussian Masterdom. Elector Dietrich will be returning to Livonia, and be a member of that Masterdom. I would reccommend he be given a Countship, being the only member of either Masterdom without a formal title.

    Next I would like to make an announcement. I am invoking my right to be the first Schatzmeister. As the new widened scope of position is new, amking it far more than just that of a treasurer, I think it best that it go to someone who already has a fair amount of authority within the Bruderhood, and this will give a chance for more Electors to join the Order, so that a real contest can be had for the next Schatzmeistership. In a little while I will outline my intentions as Schatzmeister.
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    Gunther clears his throat, then begins to speak again.

    Alright, now of a declaration of my goals as Schatzmeister.

    First of all, I intend to bring this war with Lithuania to a conclusion. To that end, my first few years will see our economy geared towards military ends. I plan on uniting our separated territories. I want both Dukes and our other Elector to be in command of different forces for this campaign, and will try to recruit effective armies for each.

    After we mave forced the Lithuanians to surrender, or elimated them, I would like us to establish relations with those few Christian powers in the Baltic. Alliances will be sought our father the Empire, as well as with Poland and Denmark. Novgorod may see a signing of a trade agreement, but I'd rather not ally with non-catholics. The Mongols will be considered hostile, and at best an armed neutrality will spring up between us. As Muslims, I consider them our next target after the Lithuanians.

    Once the war is concluded, I plan on working on our economy. Our forces will be scaled back and used defensively, while young Dietrich may be sent to take the trading Isle of Visby. Economic structures will, I hope make it to the top of the Dukes' building queues at that time. I also hope that more Electors will join us during that time.

    At the end of my Schatzmeistership I expect the Order to be stronger in the area, the pagans to have been subdued, and for their to be a strong competition for the next Schatzmeistership. I will also issue a report at that time.

    Are there any questions?
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    Hans, the newly made Duke of Prussia, kneels.

    I reswear allegiance to the Teutonic Order and to Hochmeister Gunther the Chivalrous in gratitude for this promotion. The build queues for my new dominion shall be established prior to the end of this council meeting. (OOC: I'll be making the new relevant threads shortly)

    I look forward to driving the pagan Lithuanians to the abyss! To do this, we shall need money. I strongly suggest that dirt roads be built in all of our regions that do not have them prior to the construction of anything else. Next, clearance of the land for farming should be prioritized.

    To assist in the production of monies, I will be tearing down the outer walls of Thorn to convert it to a commercial city. This will not hinder our defenses much, as Marienburg, capital of Prussia and of the Order is an impregnable Fortress and will ensure the safety of the southern provinces.

    Dietrich, my friend, I would beseech you to claim a Lithuanian castle upon your return to Livonia to cut off the production of troops for our foes.

    While the slaying of our foes is paramount, the civilians may yet be swayed. Our Order Bishops Ortwinus and Wilhelm Guiskard should be sent behind enemy territory to convert the populations. Our good Order Priest Johannes should remain in Teutonic territory to spread the good word to our subjects.

    Hans swallows a bit.

    Excuse me, I forgot my place. These are all just suggestions, of course my lord.
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    To ensure smooth rule, I will propose the following laws (laws are different from edicts - the constitute the charter, of which we have none yet):

    Law 1.1 - The Hochmeister is authorized to move the capital of the Teutonic Order to an unallocated province. OOC Rider: At the start of the game, the capital is Marienburg, also part of Prussia. Marienburg will remain part of Prussia if the capital is moved to a new province.

    Law 1.2 - The Teutonic Order cannot declare war without an Edict authorizing it. However, if a neutral army marches on Order land without military access, the relevant Duke may declare war himself without an Edict.

    Law 1.3 - Each House shall have one mobile army and as many defensive armies as necessary to garrison provinces or forts. Only the mobile armies may cross onto other lands.

    These laws require two seconders and a 2/3rds vote to pass.
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    There is no need to fear being presumptuous, Duke Hans. We all started out as knights in service to the Order, and whatever ranks we obtain, we are all Brothers in our service to Christ.

    Since all lands are currently in one House or the other, it will be up to you and Duke Maximilian where to build roads. I, for one, agree that dirt roads are a priority.

    There is a Lithuanians castle which seperates our lands at the thinnest point. I think that is the one you mean. I hope to have an army for Dietrich to take it, and will give much of my own soldiers to him for the purpose.

    I think making Thorn a city to support our economy is a splendid idea. I woudl like to hear your thoughts on making Konigburg the capital, so that Marienburg can remain in House Prussia.

    I will take control of the priests myself, although they will likely do just as you suggested (Gunther has several religious traits, I think he'll micromanage priests during his term ).
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    I would gladly sacrifice Konigsberg for the Order to be a capital. The capital should be independent of House.

    Do you see merit in my laws? Do you second them?
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    I am glad to second laws 1.1 and 1.2, but I would add an amendment to 1.3. I would add a third possible mobile army for the Hochmeister. This force could cross the lands of the Dukes to help either House. Right now we lack the lands to support three large armies, but in the future it will likely be important.
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