Random crashes during turns, a patch issue?

[Kenitai]

Hi everyone,

I'm glad that there is an improved Shogun mod for Medieval Total War. I enjoy it.

But sadly I experience major crashes in the game.
2 of them:
1.During Saving the game and then entering it again.
2.During turns, where for example the messengers switch positions.

While I was playing Shogun total War, the game used to crash randomly, but with some patch everything was solved.

Maybe I skipped one importnant patch for the original MTW, which prevents random crashing during the turns itself?

My order of installing the game was:
1.Installed MTW
2.The Viking expansion
3.The VI 2.01 patch
4. And at last, the Shogun mod

So, do you think I followed the right order of installing the game?


Thanks in advance, and thanks for the great Mod!

[TosaInu]

Hello Kenitai,

Yes, that seems to be the right order. Did you install beta8?

[Kenitai]

Beta8 is the only file I know. Unless there was some mod file previously released that fixes my problem?

[Jochi Khan]

Hello Kenitai...welcome to the .Org

You have installed in the correct order.

There are two versions of the Samurai Wars Mod for MTW/VI.

The one you have installed, Beta 8 for SP and Beta 5 is for MP.

Look for any post here by Puzz3D and look in his Signature.

Happy Hunting.

[Puzz3D]

But sadly I experience major crashes in the game.
2 of them:
1.During Saving the game and then entering it again.
2.During turns, where for example the messengers switch positions.

You may have to run dxdiag and post the output here. I'm not sure what you mean by "messengers switch positions".

[R'as al Ghul]

You may have to run dxdiag and post the output here. I'm not sure what you mean by "messengers switch positions".

I think he means the strategic pieces, like diplomats etc.
Savegames can crash, they also do that in vanilla VI. There's no cure for that. I'm not certain what could cause a crash during the computer turn.
dxdiag may help to determine that. You could also look at the logfiles in the Medieval main folder.

[Kenitai]

DXDIAG

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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/3/2008, 17:08:26
       Machine name: KENITAI-FF61908
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
           Language: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: VIA
       System Model: K7VM2.
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~1.8GHz
             Memory: 768MB RAM
          Page File: 314MB used, 811MB available
        Windows Dir: D:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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   Display Memory: 128.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6371 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n.v.t.
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: VIA AC'97 Audio (WAVE)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
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            Other Files: 
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       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: VIA AC'97 Audio (WAVE)
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  Default Voice Capture: Yes
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DirectMusic
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DirectInput Devices
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Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB-hoofdhub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 13:00:00, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 13:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ PCI-bus
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0a03
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 8/4/2004 13:00:00, 68224 bytes
| 
+-+ Standaardspelpoort
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standaardtoetsenbord (101/102 toetsen) of Microsoft Natural PS/2-toetsenbord
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
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| 
+ Toestenbordstuurprogramma voor Terminal Server
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
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| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 13:00:00, 25216 bytes
| 
+ PS/2-compatibele muis
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
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DirectPlay Service Providers
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DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
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DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: LAN-verbinding - IPv4 - 

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TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Ofcourse the file is way bigger, but the thread would get insanely big...

[Puzz3D]

MTW/VI should work ok with your hardware. Check out this thread, and consider trying the Nvidia 61.77 driver mentioned in that thread.

[Kenitai]

Thanks for the great help! The game runs flawless now. =)

[Jochi Khan]

Glad it is all sorted for you.

Happy hunting.