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Need help installing on new comp
Hey guys,
I'm an old member... way back, like from 2000.
I recently got a new computer and am trying to install STW:Warlord edition on the computer. The installation works, if I click to open the program the screen changes... making it look like the game will be loaded, but then it stops... and then the game doesn't load. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling, but I can't figure out the problem.
My computer is a Dell inspiron 600m.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
-Zen Blade
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Hello Zen Blade,
How're you doing?
I don't know about a solution, maybe you better ask the tech guys in the Apothecary?
Graphic driver?
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Hey Tosa,
Still map making I see.
I'm doing ok.
How's everything going with you?
Yeah, I'll go check with the apothecary people. This computer is only 5 months old though... I had hoped everything would be simple.
-Zen Blade
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Hi Zen blade,
we had your problem seveal times in the past months.
You can do a search in Apothecary and Sword Dojo.
But my best guess is that your Windows Media Player
is not the default player for .mov files.
If you're running WinXP or NT you may also want to run
Shoggy in "compatibility mode". (right click your
shortcut for this setting).
Hope it works
~:cheers:
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Hello Zen_Blade,
I had the same problem for months. Do as R'as said. It are probably the .mov files.
Have you seen that some of your old mates are back too? TenkiWarPRIEST and TenkiSoraroti are back to STW MP. Kurando and Koga No Goshi have been active at the .org lately too. ~:)
:bow: To you.
Hope you fix it and get to play again. ~:)
Drisos ~:cheers:
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well,
windows media player says I have the current version. It is also the default player for all media files.... however, I don't see any selection within windows media player for the ".mov" files...
any more ideas? any more specifics?
-Zen Blade
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Originally Posted by Zen_Blade
well,
windows media player says I have the current version. It is also the default player for all media files.... however, I don't see any selection within windows media player for the ".mov" files...
any more ideas? any more specifics?
-Zen Blade
I would think you would have to find a .mov file on your computer somewhere, right click and make wmp the default player for this type of file.
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where are these ".mov" files in the STW folder?
I couldn't find any there. Or these files solely on the CD?
grrr... this is kinda annoying. My new comp can't play an old game.
I'll figure it out eventually.
-Zen Blade
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Ups didI say .mov?
My fault.
I meant the mpg files in Evanims or Movies folder.
Double click them and you'll see which application is associated.
It should be Windows Media player.
:bow:
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all the mpg's were fine.
However, I was looking at some other files and I came across some audio that had been switched to musicmatch for some reason. I just converted them back to windows media player... that might have been the problem (wave and mp3 files).
I'll try when I get home tonight.
-Zen Blade
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no luck so far...
unfortunately... same thing. preliminary loading screen comes up, then goes down... no intro ever appears.
-Zen Blade
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any more ideas anyone?
-Zen Blade
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Ok,
so I tried a bunch of stuff... nothing worked.
my video/graphics card is a "Radeon mobility 9000". anyone know if there are some driver issues with that or anything?
-Zen Blade
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I remember TenkiSoratoti saying he had this problem, and he fixed it. You could try pm'ing him to ask him how he did it. I saw this in the stw mp thread.
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here's his reply
"I had the exact same problem and never found out why it happened. However, the problem resolved itself when I re-formatted my Hard Drive."
-I don't think I will be doing that....
sigh,
-Zen Blade
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Don't give up! STW is worth the efforts as you probably remember. ~:)
At www.totalwar.com is a similar thread. Look in the 'Shogun' part and for a thread: 'STW drops to desktop at lauch'
Try to find help elsewere too, I mean at a forum for tech help. (not apothecary, just a non-TW forum)
Hope you solve it soon. :bow:
47Ronin Drisos
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Alas,
I have failed.... my sword greets me warmly.
uhhh... this sucks. why is it that "advanced technology" sucks?
-Zen Blade
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hi... i decided today to play stw again, i have the original game cd release. i installed the game and downloaded the patch. when i double click the shortcut i get the same problem that zen_blade has. i have tryed compatability mode but the problem is still there. i hope that someone finds an anwser to this problem, i have checked the web, but all i can find are posts with the same problem and no workaround.
i will leave the install on my harddrive for a couple of days, if i find no anwser to this problem, then i guess it is just the scenario of 'old game..not compatable with new technology'.
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Hi, I'm a new member of the forums. I had the same problem and have just find a "solution" that worked for me. In my case the problem was not in Shogun, but in Starforce.
For those that don't know what Starforce is: it's a copy protection software that is included in some games (more each day it seems). In this thread in the Wargamer's forum you can find a guide to know if you have Starforce installed and a link to an uninstaller: http://www.wargamer.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100639
I used the utility mentioned in that thread to remove Starforce, and after restarting the computer, STW worked fine. So you can try this to see if it's your case too.
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santi...many thanks.
stw works now that i have removed starforce from my pc.
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It WORKED!!!
Wow, that thing really sucks.
now I can play again.
-Zen Blade
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Glad to see you got it sorted Zen_Blade and slap.
Welcome to the .Org Santi.
Nice to see a new member helping out. ~;)
Jochi
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Welcome to the .org, Santi and slap! ~:wave: ~:)
Great first post, Santi. You immediately proved to be helpful! :bow:
Glad to see things are working again.
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Glad it worked for both of you too ~:cheers:
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Cool, I can't tell you how many times I've seen this question asked.
Stickied.
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Good idea, sasaki! :thumbsup:
I remember a lot more threads about this. If I run into one with some good advice in it, I'll post a link here. ~;)
See you in the foyer soon, Zen_Blade! :bow:
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Originally Posted by drisos
If I run into one with some good advice in it, I'll post a link here.
Well, here is one:
Link to thread on this subject.
~:cheers:
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Hi folks,Im brand new to this forum - been following this thread just recently because Im having the same problem.Ive tried the before mentioned suggestions with no luck :( So I just wondered if anyone here has any more information on the cause.I have had STW running on this machine before - the only change that I can think of is service pack 2.Has anyone else had problems with SP2 and app's not running?
My system specs:
Time of this report: 7/31/2005, 11:35:47
Machine name: SHODAN
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: NVIDIA
System Model: AWRDACPI
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
Memory: 512MB RAM
Page File: 184MB used, 1063MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Heres a little more gfx/display info:
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0281&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1152 x 864 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.7730 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/12/2005 00:34:00, 3879808 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 5/12/2005 00:34:00, 3189376 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41C1-11CF-827D-0A2000C2CB35}
If anyone can see any problems in the above report I'd be grateful for a heads up.
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Hey guys, Im new here. I had this same problem, I disabled Space Force, and it worked for me also! I am so happy! Thanks for the info, you deserve a medal.
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santi, you are a master of time and space!! It's great to have this up and running again + I'd almost given up hope.
Zen Blade... man, what can I say; it's been too long bro + good to see you! :bow:
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Welcome to the .org Saigo!! and welcome to the sword dojo! :bow: glad you solved it!
welcome Blueshade! please post that same post in apothecary and you'll get more help I guess. that forum is for tech problems. I really hope you solve it. ~:)
Hello Kurando, pleased to meet you! You were a Tenki too, right? sora and warpriest are here too. I hope to see them in mp soon. ~:) you want some shogun mp too, or only want sp? if intrested check for the new fakeserver at the 'stw mp' forum. congrats on solving the problem.
:bow: :bow:
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drisos;
Nah mate I was never in a clan; I had to stay impartial because I was the admin here during the S:TW days. I certainly remember tenki_warpriest though, a fine warrior.
All the best,
K-man.
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Oh what a stupid mistake of mine... Sorry Kurando :embarassed:
So you once were admin here? Cool. ~:) Are you playing any TW now or are you just here keeping contact with some old friends? Many of the old stw players think Rome isn't worth playing and play MTW or nothing at all now... I'm just new to stw mp.
p.s: you have the greatest avatar of the entire .org! ~:cool: ~D
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Originally Posted by drisos
Oh what a stupid mistake of mine... Sorry Kurando :embarassed:
So you once were admin here? Cool. ~:) Are you playing any TW now or are you just here keeping contact with some old friends? Many of the old stw players think Rome isn't worth playing and play MTW or nothing at all now... I'm just new to stw mp.
p.s: you have the greatest avatar of the entire .org! ~:cool: ~D
I'd have to say that Rome TW is pretty awesome + the idea any old school mark likes S:TW better is a bit confusing to me. I'm not sure on the MP level, but as far as Single Player goes R:TW is superior, imo.
Thanks for the compliment on the icon, I'd have to say that on the whole that I am prouder of that little yellow "battlefield award" that is just below the icon. It stands for 500 competitive victories + I really worked for it, I'll tell ya! Twaz a labour of love though + S:TW MP was a really great game in it's hayday. I'm glad to see that there are some diehards keeping the tradition alive.
I think I'll graciously bow out of the invitation to enter the S:TW MP arena, at this time I have other commitments. -Thanks anyway, I have seen some of your other posts and I'd say that you are a real gentleman, drisos. It's been nice getting to know you. :bow:
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Originally Posted by Kurando
I'd have to say that Rome TW is pretty awesome + the idea any old school mark likes S:TW better is a bit confusing to me. I'm not sure on the MP level, but as far as Single Player goes R:TW is superior, imo.
Yes I was talking about MP only.
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Originally Posted by Kurando
Thanks for the compliment on the icon, I'd have to say that on the whole that I am prouder of that little yellow "battlefield award" that is just below the icon. It stands for 500 competitive victories + I really worked for it, I'll tell ya! Twaz a labour of love though + S:TW MP was a really great game in it's hayday. I'm glad to see that there are some diehards keeping the tradition alive.
:bow:
That is indeed something to be very proud of!! but I'm a bit confused - are those stw battles? (or other TW) In total I played only 2 competitive battles, of which I won 2. Probably because I'm just too new to have played more... Well, respect to you for those victories! You must be a great warrior. :bow:
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It's been nice getting to know you.
Thanks. :bow: It's been nice getting to know you.
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Originally Posted by drisos
That is indeed something to be very proud of!! but I'm a bit confused - are those stw battles? (or other TW) In total I played only 2 competitive battles, of which I won 2. Probably because I'm just too new to have played more... Well, respect to you for those victories! You must be a great warrior.
Yeah they were all, S:TW battles, I have never played any other Total War MP.
I think my competitive record was 509 and 96, but I wasn't all that great; there were some players whom I could almost never beat. I'd say that AMP was probably the best online player I ever fought; I don't think I ever beat him; he was so sound that there was virtually no weakness to exploit, even if you picked a better army for the conditions he was so fundimentally solid that I just couldn't get him down and out. Magyar Kahn was a close second; he was extremely inventive and he'd come at you in ways that you couldn't anticipate; Magyar Kahn wasn't as dangerous as AMP but I found it more unnerving to play him because you never knew what he was going to do, and everthing he did was designed to hurt you.
Surprisingly Tosa gave me a really hard time too, he didn't have a reputation as a elite player, but he used to drive me crazy because I could almost never get the upper hand on him. I guess I'd consider him my arch rival in S:TW, but he never knew it.
Anyhoo, there were some insanely good MP players back then; those "Lonely Wolves" guys were stone killers, and so were the old school Clan Celtiberos guys + to a man I found them almost impossible to beat. In brief, there were some great warriors in the S:TW ranks, but I was never one of them.
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Originally Posted by Kurando
Yeah they were all, S:TW battles, I have never played any other Total War MP.
:bow: Me neither.
Well I heard many stories about elite players... and I hear different names every time... :dizzy2: I think every player has it's own weakness and has it's own players he cannot beat easily so, ...
Am I mistaking or is 'Magyar Khan' the leader of the 'Grey wolves'? I never heard of AMP, but Tosa is still around.(as you of course knew) I guess he's too busy with his admin job here and other TW to play some stw mp with us. Sasaki isn't playing atm don't know why. (but you might not know him as he started playing stw mp rather late I thought.)
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Hey, sorry to interrupt, but I finally got a new computer, and of course the first thing I reach for to put on is S: TW. I (ver very) sadly don't have WE, keep that it mind. Anyway, I installed it and it was doing fine, however, it wasn't the same as before, so I downloaded the v1.12 patch. Since then it's been freaking out on me. The first problem was when I was loading a battle. It said Hard sprites failed to load, and I think something about being out of video memory. Then it closed on me. It's only said that a couple of times, but a lot of my battles have units dissapearing, and green/brown barriers blocking my view. Also, in the menu, the screen flickers, except where there's movement it sort've refreshes (if I drag my mouse over it, it leaves a trail of non-flicker). I checked for Starforce and I don't have it. Is it a diagnoseable problem, or do I have to reinstall it without the patch?
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Welcome to the .org and welcome to sword dojo!! ~:)
I never heard of this problem. Reinstalling might solve it but I doubt that as you just installed it...
I hope someone else knows how to help you and you will fix it. ~:)
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Hi Chosokabe Clan
The screen flicker............
I know this problem.
Nothing to do with your install or the patch v1.12.
Its your firewall.
Are you running Windows XP SP2?
Are you running Zone Alarm?
If you have windows firewall go to Exceptions and enable the Shogun prog to access the internet.
Zone Alarm should give a pop-up asking you to allow Shogun program to access the internet. You need to tick the...remember this...box.
Edit: These settings are only for when you play STW online. Please remember to reset them back to what they were when you have logged off shogun.
Good luck
Jochi
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Thanks! I'll try that. btw, this isn't my first time here, I signed up a while ago, this is just my first post. I've posted on the other S: TW forums. The screen didn't flicker before I downloaded the patch though, so I thought it was the patch. I've never done multiplayer either, so I've never had to connect.
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Thanks for the info Jochi! I've seen more have this problem.
hope you solve it now.
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Hmm - I'm one of the "more" - I've got Shogun unblocked by my firewall, and still I get the problem. However - for some reason Zone Alert doesn't pop-up when I block then unblock Shogun - maybe I ticked "remember this" on unblock before, & forgot about it...
Either way - it's unblocked & the problem persists, any ideas?
:computer:
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The Bad News: That wasn't my problem. Sometimes it doesn't give me the dialog box, but it will still close down if the battle has a large variety of units. Here's the dialog box I get:
Hard Sprites Failed to Load |X|
DDERR_OUTOFVIDEOMEMORY (8876017C)
|OK|
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More related info:
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YES!!! To anyone else having this problem, it has nothing to do with mov, mpg or compatibility options. Follow the link provided by drisos (above), scroll down to the link in the post that discusses STARFORCE, follow the instructions and return to Japan! Incidentally, the STARFORCE removal utility may be found at
http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/sea...arch=Find&art=.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=52441
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=53043
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46510
http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...cID=5262.topic
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Hope it is of any help.
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Originally Posted by Chosokabe Clan
The Bad News: That wasn't my problem. Sometimes it doesn't give me the dialog box, but it will still close down if the battle has a large variety of units. Here's the dialog box I get:
Hard Sprites Failed to Load |X|
DDERR_OUTOFVIDEOMEMORY (8876017C)
|OK|
That seems Like a self explanitory sentance,
You dont seem to have enough Video ram,
if you use on board GFX maby you would need to Asign more ram to it in your Bios,
Or reducing GFX detail and resolution in game could help.
And if your unit types display looks like A wooden back ground "whilst in battle"
Then your probably running in software mode,
i dont advise any 1 to run stw in software mode, As you loose A lot of features, Including mouse look,
not to mention map editing abilaty.
Check your options.
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More related info:
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http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotalwarfrm1
Another possible cause of this problem is that you don't have enough memory to run shogun. If you have an old computer with few RAM or you just have a lot of other programs running this might be the case. Shut off other programs to solve this. If you need those other programs so can't shut them off, increase your virtual memory. To do that, go to windows system configuration and click 'virtual memory'. In there tick the box 'choose your own virtual memory settings' and set the max and min number of virtual memory to the same amount of MB. 500 MB should be more then enough. Click ok and try running shogun again.
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Hope it is of any help.
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Here I get all psyched to play Shoggie all day tomorrow and I've run into a major technical problem!!! I've not played STW WLE since mid-July. Yesterday, I pop in my WLE CD, in order to practice for today's games and discover that STW WLE will not open!! I've been getting the same problem the fellow who started this thread had. I pop in my WLE CD, the options screen comes up, I click on 'play STWLE' , then the logo box pops up...then nothing happens!!!
I've uninstalled and reinstalled the program. I uninstalled every game program I've had since I last played STW WLE. My System Restore points don't seem to be working. I've run Spybot and McAffee Antivirus. I don't have a firewall, nor a router, nor am I on a networked PC. As Drisos and others can attest, I've played plenty of STW WLE on this very same PC. Yet now I can't get the bloody thing to even start!!!
Shambles tried to help me out a bit earlier this morning, to no avail. I tried the Starforce uninstall utility, but it claims that Starforce is not on my system. I've always had WMV as my default media player and I even double checked that it was still defaulting every media type. I suspect that the most likely culprit is Chessmaster 9000, which I installed on Thursday and uninstalled early today. I suspect that Chessmaster 9000 features a program like Starforce, because the game's readme file indicates that it has a security measure that requires that a player use their CD six times, in order to authenticate true ownership. I uninstalled Chessmaster 9000, even made sure to check the registry...though something there (associated with CM9000) might've escaped my scrutiny. This problem is still persisting and it's driving me absolutely mad!!! Someone help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I figured it out....and absolutely screamed when I figured it out!!!!!! It was my frakkin Logitech Webcam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got the idea to simply disconnect it, after coming across something Shambles posted somewhere about Logitec Control software causing a conflict with STW WLE!!!!! Thanks to Shambles!!!! He ended up solving the problem after all!! Mind ya, I've been wrestling with this issue since early afternoon yesterday and it's now 7:47AM the next day!!!:x
So, in nutshell and especially because I never saw a direct reference to a conflict involving Logitech Webcams, but simply Logitech related software. If anyone encounters this problem and has a Logitec Webcam, you need simply unplug it and restart your system to play STW WLE. There's no need to uninstall the Logitech Webcam itself, simply unplug and reboot; then you'll be ready to rock and roll!!:D
By the way...I really wish I had known the solution were that simple yesterday afternoon. I would've gotten plenty of practice time in for today's games and I would'nt have uninstalled three other programs...two of which I invested a good deal of time into!!!>:
On the upshot...I really did get to know my PC a bit more than I did yesterday!;)
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Good to hear you resolved it Meth m8, and thanks for posting the resolution here as it will likely help others who run into the same thing. Nice to see 47s active again in the community--now if I can only find some time, get my disks, install and get playing again myself ... gah! Me ENVIOUS.
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I got kinda scared when I read your first post m8!! Luckily the second said it was already over ~:) Glad to hear that. Now lets play ~:cheers:
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I found one post that refereed to the same problem and the solution was to upgrade the safedisk driver. (at Macrovision)
Another possible solution.
Credit goes to rzajac.
:happyg:
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I would have been back a while ago... but i can no longer find my WE disc 1 ~:( i dont know where to look have been looking for ages im going to make 1 final house tear up ... then i give up... and find it when i find it but if i dont find it ill still be around here ... i will probably end up getting rome or medieval total war...
Until Next Time :bow:
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[QUOTE=HoH Mystic]I would have been back a while ago... but i can no longer find my WE disc 1 ~:( i dont know where to look have been looking for ages im going to make 1 final house tear up ... then i give up... and find it when i find it but if i dont find it ill still be around here ... i will probably end up getting rome or medieval total war...QUOTE]
Please don't give up m8! a) FIND YOUR DISK!!!!!!!! or b) get yourself a new copy
but never do c) buy rome or d) leave
serious, I don't want to miss you much longer then I already have... get back over here! ~:) :yes: ~:cheers:
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Hello,
New member Rascal just posted this question in the Entrance Hall:
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Originally Posted by Rascal
Shogun wont run at all. I reinstalled it, swept for StarForce, patched it and changed compatability mode to Windows 95 and 98 but nothing. When I double click on the desktop icon to start the game the 1st screen comes up of the logo so it looks like its going to load. Then it crashes back to desktop and gives me an error report to send to Microsoft every time. Im at a total loss. Here is the thread I followed to try and fix this issue
(Link)
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Hey guys just posting here to try and find some more info. I'm having a very similar problem as the original thread here and I did everything that everyone posted to try. I cant get Shogun to work yet. Shogun wont run at all. I reinstalled it, swept for StarForce, patched it and changed compatability mode to Windows 95 and 98 but nothing. I tried it without changing compatibility and that wont work either. When I double click on the desktop icon to start the game the 1st screen comes up of the logo so it looks like its going to load. Then it crashes back to desktop and gives me an error report to send to Microsoft every time. Im at a total loss. I need any help i can get. Thanks in advance for any leads you guys can throw my way.
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Originally Posted by Rascal
When I double click on the desktop icon to start the game the 1st screen comes up of the logo so it looks like its going to load. Then it crashes back to desktop and gives me an error report to send to Microsoft every time.
What kind of error?
Could you post a screenshot or write it down?
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Here is the file the error report is including. Dont know how to take a screen shot of the error report but its huge, way to long to type.
C:DOCUME~1\Rascal\LOCALS~1\Temp\eb16_appcompat.txt
Also, I ran something called System Comparison from the Shogun files and it says:
System Comparison
Device Requirment Your System
CPU Family 80586 Class 0
CPU Speed 233 1992
RAM 32 767
CD-ROM Speed 4x Not Detected
3Dfx(tm)support Not Required No
Glide (tm) Not Installed
Chipset Not Installed
MMX (tm) Yes Yes
Now I have no idea what this is about. My CD-ROM is 16x or 20x, dont remember. What is CPU Family? I have about 85gigs left on my hard drive. I have no clue what so ever. LEt me know if you need more info. Thanks again...
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Originally Posted by Rascal
Here is the file the error report is including. Dont know how to take a screen shot of the error report but its huge, way to long to type.
C:DOCUME~1\Rascal\LOCALS~1\Temp\eb16_appcompat.txt
It would be interesting to know the content of that text file.
Please post it.
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Originally Posted by Rascal
Also, I ran something called System Comparison from the Shogun files and it says:
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Now I have no idea what this is about. My CD-ROM is 16x or 20x, dont remember. What is CPU Family? I have about 85gigs left on my hard drive. I have no clue what so ever. LEt me know if you need more info. Thanks again...
Don't worry. The tool from EA that you're using is build for win95 machines.
It doesn't have a clue what to make of your XP system. the diagnosis is completely worth- and meaningless. Your hardware should be fine.
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Re: Need help installing on new comp
Thanks for all the help so far R'as.
Ok, that file was gone in the temp folder so I ran Shogun again to get a new error report and this is the file:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-16"?>
<DATABASE>
<EXE NAME="SHOGUN.ICD" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_PRIVACY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="clcd16.dll" SIZE="6784" CHECKSUM="0xECFDD7A5" MODULE_TYPE="WIN16" S16BIT_DESCRIPTION="CLCD16.exe" S16BIT_MODULE_NAME="CLCD16" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="clcd32.dll" SIZE="30208" CHECKSUM="0xE166416A" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:10:14" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:10:14" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="clokspl.exe" SIZE="177152" CHECKSUM="0xB4903A10" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:09:49" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:09:49" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="dplayerx.dll" SIZE="136704" CHECKSUM="0xB34F375F" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:16:24" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:16:24" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="drvmgt.dll" SIZE="34304" CHECKSUM="0x4A83E51C" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:23:37" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:23:37" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="IP.exe" SIZE="832000" CHECKSUM="0xE1151566" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.0.0" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.0.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1,6, 0, 0" FILE_DESCRIPTION="InfoPro (System Information & Benchmark Program)" COMPANY_NAME="EASTern DiGiTAL Inc." PRODUCT_NAME="InfoPro®" FILE_VERSION="2.1" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="IP.EXE" INTERNAL_NAME="IP" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1996-1997 by EASTern DiGiTAL Inc." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x10005" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.5.0.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.5.0.0" LINK_DATE="12/19/1997 21:11:56" UPTO_LINK_DATE="12/19/1997 21:11:56" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="mcp.dll" SIZE="67584" CHECKSUM="0xE419F8E1" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.6.0" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.6.0" PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.6.0" FILE_DESCRIPTION="" COMPANY_NAME="" PRODUCT_NAME="" FILE_VERSION="1.0.6.0" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="" INTERNAL_NAME="" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.6.0" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.6.0" LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" UPTO_LINK_DATE="06/19/1992 22:22:17" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Shogun Total War_eReg.exe" SIZE="618496" CHECKSUM="0x19AA7553" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="2, 0, 0, 0" FILE_DESCRIPTION="EReg MFC Application" COMPANY_NAME="" PRODUCT_NAME="EReg Application" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 0, 1" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="EReg.EXE" INTERNAL_NAME="EReg" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright (C) 1999" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x4" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="05/04/2000 18:31:51" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/04/2000 18:31:51" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Shogun Total War_uninst.exe" SIZE="65536" CHECKSUM="0xF337A16" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 15:37:31" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 15:37:31" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Shogun.exe" SIZE="341279" CHECKSUM="0xFE5B5B1D" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1, 0, 0, 1" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Shog_CPP" COMPANY_NAME="Creative Assembly" PRODUCT_NAME="Creative Assembly Shog_CPP" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 0, 1" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="Shog_CPP.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="Shog_CPP" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:18:11" UPTO_LINK_DATE="05/03/2000 11:18:11" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United Kingdom) [0x809]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="SHOGUN.ICD" SIZE="4579373" CHECKSUM="0xBF8A3695" BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" PRODUCT_VERSION="1, 0, 0, 1" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Shog_CPP" COMPANY_NAME="Creative Assembly" PRODUCT_NAME="Creative Assembly Shog_CPP" FILE_VERSION="1, 0, 0, 1" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="Shog_CPP.exe" INTERNAL_NAME="Shog_CPP" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="Copyright © 1998" VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x1" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="1.0.0.1" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="1.0.0.1" LINK_DATE="09/26/2000 08:43:40" UPTO_LINK_DATE="09/26/2000 08:43:40" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United Kingdom) [0x809]" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="Uninstall.exe" SIZE="24576" CHECKSUM="0xF9D98674" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="04/05/2000 16:40:20" UPTO_LINK_DATE="04/05/2000 16:40:20" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="weachatr.dll" SIZE="105472" CHECKSUM="0x7F16C507" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="03/30/2000 14:22:49" UPTO_LINK_DATE="03/30/2000 14:22:49" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="weanewsr.dll" SIZE="63488" CHECKSUM="0x99217D5D" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="02/18/2000 10:45:24" UPTO_LINK_DATE="02/18/2000 10:45:24" />
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="wearasr.dll" SIZE="62976" CHECKSUM="0x2DD56D18" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0x0" LINKER_VERSION="0x0" LINK_DATE="01/21/2000 11:25:45" UPTO_LINK_DATE="01/21/2000 11:25:45" />
</EXE>
<EXE NAME="kernel32.dll" FILTER="GRABMI_FILTER_THISFILEONLY">
<MATCHING_FILE NAME="kernel32.dll" SIZE="983552" CHECKSUM="0x4CE79457" BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" FILE_DESCRIPTION="Windows NT BASE API Client DLL" COMPANY_NAME="Microsoft Corporation" PRODUCT_NAME="Microsoft® Windows® Operating System" FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)" ORIGINAL_FILENAME="kernel32" INTERNAL_NAME="kernel32" LEGAL_COPYRIGHT="© Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved." VERFILEDATEHI="0x0" VERFILEDATELO="0x0" VERFILEOS="0x40004" VERFILETYPE="0x2" MODULE_TYPE="WIN32" PE_CHECKSUM="0xFF848" LINKER_VERSION="0x50001" UPTO_BIN_FILE_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" UPTO_BIN_PRODUCT_VERSION="5.1.2600.2180" LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" UPTO_LINK_DATE="08/04/2004 07:56:36" VER_LANGUAGE="English (United States) [0x409]" />
</EXE>
</DATABASE>
Now at the top it says version xml 1.0, dont know if that is Shogun version or what. I have run the path several times for Shogun but not doing anything. Dunno if i patched it incorrectly or what.
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Re: Need help installing on new comp
Right i dont know if i understand the problem 100% But it sounds like a file accosiation problem...
It sounds like..
The Game starts..
Tries to play opening vid...
and goes POOF.
Back at desktop.
If thats right. I would start by making sure Windows media player is default player for file types STW uses.
Also.
If you have a Webcam stuck to your pc. "logitech expeshialy" Dissconnect it. and then try again.
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Re: Need help installing on new comp
Thats exactly whats happening. I made sure WMP was default for all associated files, reinstalled it, patched it, swept for StarForce, unplugged every USB connection I had, restarted and the new error report had a lot of stuff about Checksum or something like that. I can post the report on here but its long and I dont want to keep filling up the page with huge posts unless you want me to post it. Still trying everything I can. Throw me any kind of theory you have and I will try it (except a reformat). Thanks again everyone
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Re: Need help installing on new comp
Sorry rascal,
no idea what the error report says. It doesn't look as if it reports any error at all.
Have you tried what Shambles said? Try to open the movies from Shogun from the explorer and see if it works with your WMP.
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Yes I have tried and the movies all play fine from the folder. I tried most of them and they all worked without a problem. There has to be something I'm missing...
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A friend of mine reported a problem involving the movies that play in the game. Everytime he'd get to a point where certain mini-videos were supposed to play, the game would lock up, forcing a reboot of the PC (he couldn't even alt-tab out and shut STW down). Even when reloading a saved game afterwards, it would bomb at the same point. He said that it happened when a daimyo was forced to commit seppuku, or was killed and had no heirs (eliminated). These weren't necessarily the only times it happened, but he noticed a pattern that it always happened when these events occured. I think it has to do with the mini-videos because he said they don't play.
He's running WE with the 1.02 beta patch, on XP. If anyone has suggestions on how to address this problem, I (we) would certainly appreciate any information. Maybe the problem described here by Rascal is similar or related.
Thanks all.
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I tried to reinstall it again and I noticed I was having some trouble when I needed to put in disk #2. When prompted I put in disk #2 but got a warning about no disk in the drive and had to click ok, retry and cancle several times to get it to continue the install. perhaps this is the problem and it wont install correctly?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TogakureOjonin
A friend of mine reported a problem involving the movies that play in the game. Everytime he'd get to a point where certain mini-videos were supposed to play, the game would lock up, forcing a reboot of the PC (he couldn't even alt-tab out and shut STW down). Even when reloading a saved game afterwards, it would bomb at the same point. He said that it happened when a daimyo was forced to commit seppuku, or was killed and had no heirs (eliminated). These weren't necessarily the only times it happened, but he noticed a pattern that it always happened when these events occured. I think it has to do with the mini-videos because he said they don't play.
He's running WE with the 1.02 beta patch, on XP. If anyone has suggestions on how to address this problem, I (we) would certainly appreciate any information. Maybe the problem described here by Rascal is similar or related.
Thanks all.
Removing the videos from the game folder? Is that possible in WE?
Other than that it could possibly be a problem with his video player, or maybe not having sp2.
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If I remember correctly, yes, the video files could be removed. I suspect however that when the game calls them and they are not there, a different exception will occur. It's worth a try though, and I'll pass along the idea. Thanks.
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Re: Need help installing on new comp
Quote:
Originally Posted by TogakureOjonin
A friend of mine reported a problem involving the movies that play in the game. Everytime he'd get to a point where certain mini-videos were supposed to play, the game would lock up, forcing a reboot of the PC (he couldn't even alt-tab out and shut STW down). Even when reloading a saved game afterwards, it would bomb at the same point. He said that it happened when a daimyo was forced to commit seppuku, or was killed and had no heirs (eliminated). These weren't necessarily the only times it happened, but he noticed a pattern that it always happened when these events occured. I think it has to do with the mini-videos because he said they don't play.
He's running WE with the 1.02 beta patch, on XP. If anyone has suggestions on how to address this problem, I (we) would certainly appreciate any information. Maybe the problem described here by Rascal is similar or related.
Thanks all.
Please see this thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=66964
The STW crash issue has popped up at .com and here many times. Someone at .com found that at least a portion of the crashes has not to do with Win XP but with something else.
For the elimination of heirs, the crash is most likely related to the incorrect playback of the death poems. I had such a problem before where I installed a screwy codec pack. Attempting to playback the offending mp3 results in a squelching noise.
The remaining problems are likely caused by video codec problems. Installation of badly designed codec packs, video and audio filters, interference from even Nero 6 can cause STW to crash and not work. STW actually works fine on NT5 series of OSes, though with the nasty flickering background on the menu.
For the hanging of game without the playback of videos, it is most likely due to the corruption of the game. I had this occurrence(s) before with the excessive killing of Shimazu heirs and a non-heir general take over as the Daimyo (can be seen on the diplomacy scroll).
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Santi Is The MAN!
Dude-I'm so addicted to this game, and I was so bummed since it wouldn't load.
I used that StarForce remover, and it worked like a charm.
I took every program off my pc and the next step was to wipe out my hardrive. Anyone having the same problem go to http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=70
Many Thanks
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Hi all! I'm new in the forum, but I´ve been playing STW for a while. I changed my computer 2 years ago, and today i´ve taken back my STW. I´ve installed it, run it, and started a new campaign. Then, when i click over finish my turn, the AI operates. But when i my second turn was supposed to start, the game blocks, and i´ve to clear it from the task manager. During this blocking, i can hear a piece of sound repeating again and again, but neither the image nor the mouse move. My graphics card is nVidia 5700 VE 256Mb, 1 Gb RAM, WINXP SP2. However, i can play single battles without problems. It seems a problem of some kind of file, but i cannot guess which one, since i´ve tried to play them from the cd and everything goes OK. WMP is the default player and so on..
Help would be appreciated.
Thx!!!
Airold
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I had the same problem that others describe where the warlord edition crashes to the desktop on startup. The intro movie would show without any problems, but then it would crash when trying to load the game. I found this was because I had previously set the antialiasing in my nVidia display setting to 2x. Once I switched AA back to 'Application-controlled' the problem disappeared.
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Hi, i was reading all the solutions for runing S:TW,tried them, but i doesnt want to start the game.
I install the game and the newest patch 1.12, unistalled the starforce, all archives are wmp.
When i run the game, i see all the movies intro, but when it goes to the mainscreen the game crashes to the desktop.
An error file is created in the games folder:
Errors for session started: Thu Feb 01 15:55:13 2007
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5030) : DirectX call : DDERR_CURRENTLYNOTAVAIL
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5093) : DirectX call : DDERR_NOTLOCKED
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5030) : DirectX call : DDERR_CURRENTLYNOTAVAIL
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Conclusion?
Well, well, like a true community. I love to see this. Only I've seen it in 2007.
Good spirit guys, keep it up!
:2thumbsup:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cetva
Hi, i was reading all the solutions for runing S:TW,tried them, but i doesnt want to start the game.
I install the game and the newest patch 1.12, unistalled the starforce, all archives are wmp.
When i run the game, i see all the movies intro, but when it goes to the mainscreen the game crashes to the desktop.
An error file is created in the games folder:
Errors for session started: Thu Feb 01 15:55:13 2007
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5030) : DirectX call : DDERR_CURRENTLYNOTAVAIL
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5093) : DirectX call : DDERR_NOTLOCKED
C:\ShogunPatch\Main3d_1.cpp(5030) : DirectX call : DDERR_CURRENTLYNOTAVAIL
DDERR_CURRENTLYNOTAVAIL = No support is currently available.
DDERR_NOTLOCKED= An attempt is made to unlock a surface that was not locked.
DirectDraw Return codes (errors). The place to start looking is your video card drivers and DirectX installation. Run dxdiag and run all of the test first.
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i dont really need help with installing shogun but i need something from the cd: The manual
i have the game back home and one girl friend of mine needs it for a work at the history classes at university
please coud somebody send it to me that pdf at steppewolf@gmail.com?
thank you very much:bow:
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I've sent the wotd.pdf to you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Masamune
I've sent the wotd.pdf to you.
thank you very much mate!:study:
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