[EB] DEC ONLINE TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!

[mountaingoat]

RUMBLE ACROSS EUROPE
so this is going to be 3v3 or 4v4 battles only (leaving it at 3 for now)

to keep things kind of simple , there will be 6 Factions(so we can fill the ranks), and only from the region of europe

If you want in , post in this thread. first to request gets first priority for a faction.
Attempt to keep your unit stacks as "historical" as you can

Hamachi groups are now up EBG1 (for group 1) EBG2 (for group 2) .. please join your group channel , all passwords are EB.


Current teams

Aedui -mountaingoat,The Celtic Viking,Knight of Heaven *faction full*

Romani -ACS,Agrippa,Titus Magnus *faction full*

Makedon -Skullheadhq,Jebivjetar,Worms136 *faction full*

Getai -tsidneku,Silence Hunter,Scipio Africanus *faction full*

Sweboz -antisocialmunky,Phalanx300,Apázlinemjó *faction full*

KH -m0r1d1n,naiveharry,olly *faction full*

In case of having an overflow of participants (hah!) some can be kept as reserve players.


some rules to setup

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-36K cap(like old tournament)

-Only 1 chevron upgrade per unit (if there is money left over, though no upgrades for Romani due to their cheap units).

-3 Archer units max (this includes Horse archers and slingers)

-No limit for skirmishers

-Max 4 Cav units ( no limits on heavy )

-Max 8 Pike units

-Romani must only use one era of soldiers , possibly Polybian? * to be decided later on *

-No limit for elites (if you like to waste your money then do it )

-ONLY 2 Merc units per player , please check the merc list at bottom of the page.

-To keep lag down , unit size = normal

-Once a pike has been taken out of phalanx mode , it cannot return to phalanx mode for rest of the battle.(consider this as dropping their pikes). On further note a pike deployed out of phalanx mode may march then deploy pikes.

-Units cannot be pushed through other units in attack mode or in defensive movements.

Tournament will be played out as follows

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2 groups of 3

each faction will play each other twice(in their groups)and score points for a win .. the top two factions from the group will progress to the next round , in case of a tie for second place in a group, a final battle will be played between the two tying factions .

the next round will have 1st place of each group playing the against 2nd place of the opposite group. this will be best of 3 match .. after this the finale two factions will battle out for first and second place with the previous two factions battling over third place.(still using best of 3)

Groups now assigned

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Group1

Aedui
Romani
Sweboz

Group2

Makedon
Getai
KH

This is the mercenary list for each faction

please ensure you read the list as only 2 merc can be added in each battle

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Aedui

Massalioti Hoplitai (Massilian Medium Hoplites)
Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai (Celto-Hellenic Infantry)
Boii Cingetos (Boii Swordsmen)
Dugundiz (Germanic Spearmen)
Toxotai (Hellenic Archers)
Sphendonetai (Hellenic Slingers )
Akontistai (Hellenic Skirmishers)
Clona Gosnasio (Northen Iberian Skirmishers)
Canabrae Eponereidam (Cantabrian Light Cavalry)
Gaemile Liguriae (Ligurian Infantry)
Tekastos (Rhaetic Axemen)
Mori Gaesum (Helvetii Phalanx)
Callaecae Roscaithrera (Callaeci Medium Infantry)
Iberi Scutari (Iberian Meidum Spearmen)
Dreugulozes Brunjadaoi (Germanic Heavy Infantry)
Dreugulozez Exworeidondijoi(Germanic Mercenary Light Cavalry)
Marxolitho Wolxiskod (Celto-Germanic Cavalry)
Liguraie Epos (Ligurian Cavalry)
Noricene Gaecori (Noricum Spearmen)

Sweboz

Teceitos (Celtic Axemen)
Marslugoi Lugjiskoi (Lugii Heavy Swordsmen)
Dreugluozez Exworeidondijoi (Germanic Mercenary Light Cavalry)
Merxolitho Wolxiskod (Celto-Germanic Cavalry)
Uirodusios (Celtic Naked Spearmen)
Worogez

Getai

Teccitos (Celtic Axemen)
Lugoae (Celtic Levy Spearmen)
Dugundiz (Germanic SPearmen)
Uirodusios (Celtic Naked Spearmen)
Boii Cingetos (Boii Swordsmen)
Xerunoudozez (Germanic Swordsmen)
Gaeroas (Celtic Spearmen)
Hoplitai (Grek Classical Hoplites)
Illyrioi Thureophoroi (Illyrian Spearmen)
Toxoai (Hellenic Archers)
Sphendonetai (Hellenic Slingers)
Akontistai (Hellenic Skirmishers)
Illyrioi Parakitoi (Illyrian Costal Levies)
Phyletichoi Illyrioi (Illyrian Levy Spearmen)
Gaisofulxo Frijod (Germanic Levy Spearmen)
Galatikoi Kluddolon (Galatian Shortswordsmen)
Druxtiz Basterniska (Bastarne Falx Infantry)
Misthophoroi Keltohellenikoi (Mercenary Celto-Hellenic Infantry)
Dreugulozez Exworeidondijoi (Germanic Mercenary Light Cavalry)

Note for Getai , the following units are left out of the merc pool as an exception
Galathraikes (Gallo-Thracian Infantry)
Taxeis Triballoi (Triballi Infantry)

Makedonia

Galathraikes (Gallo-Thracian Infantry)
Taxeis Triballoi (Triballi Infantry)
Cordinau Orca (Scordisci Elite Infantry)
Lugoae (Celtic Levy Spearmen)
Thraikioi Doryphoroi (Thracian Light Spearmen)
Gaeroas (Celtic Spearmen)
Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai (Celto-Hellenic Infantry)
Galatikoi Kluddolon (galatian Shortswordsmen)
Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi (Mercenary Cretan Archers)
Curepos (Gallic Mercenary Light Cavalry)
Thraikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi (Elite Thracian Infantry)


Koinon Hellenon

Anatolikoi Phyletai (Anatolian Hillmen)
Iberi Caetrati (Iberian Light Infantry)
Uazali (Karian Warband)
Lugoae (Celtic Levy Spearmen)
Kavakaza Sparabara (Caucasian Spearmen)
Thraikioi Doryphoroi (Thracian Light Spearmen)
Iberi Milites (Iberian Light Spearmen)
Gaeroas (Celtic Spearmen)
Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai (Celto-Hellenic Infantry)
Thraikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi (Elite Thracian Infantry)
Kovasi Lernain Netadzik (Caucasian Archers)
Gund-i Palta (Eastern Skirmishers)
Skuda Fistaeg Fat Aexsdzhytae (Skythian Foot Archers)
Iberi Velites (Iberian Skirmishers)
Pezoi Brettioi (Bruttian Infantry)
Galathraikes (Gallo-Thracian Infantry)
Doryphoroi Pontikoi (Pontic Light Spearmen)
Iberi Sctari (Iberian Medium Spearmen)
Scortamareva (Lustonnan Meidum Spearmen)
Sammnitici Milites (Sammite Heavy Infantry)
Misthophoroi Phalangitai (Mercenary Hellenic Medium Phalanx)
Sotaroas (Celtic Archers)
Iaosatae (Celtic Slingers)
Quala'im Balearim (Balearic Slingers)
Asiatikoi Hippeis (Medium Eastern Cavalry)
Hippies Tarantinoi (Tarantine Elite Cavalry)
Misthophoroi Hippies (Mercenary Greek Medium Cavalry)
Skuda Fat Aexsdzhytae (Scythian Horse-Archers)
Asiatikoi Hippakontistai (Eastern Light-Cavalry)
Eqvites Campanici (Campanian Cavalry)

Note for Koinon Hellenon the following units are not considered merc
(due to missing heavy skirmishers)

Aichmetai Leukanoi (Lucanian Light Infantry)
Misthophoroi Thraikioi Peltastai (Mercanry Thraikian Peltasts)


Romani


Iberi Caetrati (Iberian Light Infantry)
Lugoae (Celtiv Levy Spearmen)
Dugundiz (Germanic Spearmen)
Gaeroas (Celtic Spearmen)
Illyrioi Thureophoroi (Illyrian Spearmen)
Milities Ilergetum (Ilergetan Soldiers)
Neitos (Gallic Heavy Swordsmen)
Syrakosoi Hoplitai (Sryacusan Hoplites)
Toxati (Hellenic Archers)
Dorkin Shardanim (Sardinian Infantry)
Akontistai (Hellenic Skrimishers)
Mitnagsim Numidin (Numidian Skirmishers)
Qasatim Numidim (Numidian Archers)
Appea Gaedotos (Apline Phalanx)
Illyrioi Paraktioi (Illyrian Costal Levies)
Misthophoroi Keltohellenikoi (Mercenary Celto-Hellenic Infantry)
Misthophoroi Iphikratous (Mercanary Greek hoplite Phalanx)
Misthophoroi Thurephoroi (Mercanary Hellenic Spearmen)
Misthophoroi Massaliotai (Massilian Medium Hoplites)
Iberi Scutari (Iberian Medium Spearmen)
Dunamincia (Celetiberian Heavy Infantry)
Scortamareva (Lustoannan Medium Spearmen)
Misthophoroi Phalngitai (Mercenary Hellenic Medium Phalanx)
Sotaroas (Celtic Archers)
Quala'im Numidim (Numidian Slingers)
Iaosatae (celtic Slingers)
Quala'im Balearim (Baleraric Slingers)
Misthophoroi Peltastai (Mercnary Hellenic Heavy Skirmishers)
Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi (Mercanary Cretan Archers)
Dreuguozez Exworeidondijoi (Germanic Mercanry Light Cavalry)
Misthophoroi Hippies (Mercenary Greek Medium Cavalry)
Curepos (Gallic Mercenary Light Cavalry)
Ligurai Epos (Ligurian Cavalry)
Toxotai Syriakoi (Syrian Archers)
Dorkim Maurim (Maure Infantry)
Pilei Ya'ar Libim (African Forest Elephants)
Parasim Numidim (Numidian Cavalry)
Brihentin (gallic Noble Cavalry)
Gaemile Liguriae (Ligurian Infantry)
Aichmetai Leukanoi (Lucanian Light Infantry)

Note for Romani Ploybian untis only

[tsidneku]

I'll play as Getai.
This sounds like so much fun!

[Skullheadhq]

Makedonia please.

[Blxz]

Is the rule about moving in and out of phalanx mode applicable during the approach phase? I think it states somewhere in the description that they would approach in normal order then form up. Do I have to walk my guys up to you in phalanx mode then to comply with your rules?

[mountaingoat]

So long as you have not deployed in phalanx mode that should be fine(though you can take out of then reform if you do so by mistake). I will update the description on that

we can consider that going out of phalanx mode whilst in combat to be dropping of the pikes.

[antisocialmunky]

Roma Invicta :)

[vartan]

Nice. You have more regulations and restrictions than the U.S. when it is run by Democrats. SWEET!

Have fun!

[seienchin]

Meeh , I wont to participate too, but I cant get hamachi to work with my proxy server

STill: I am curious what is the matter with the chevrons rules? Why is it forbidden to make elite units?

[mountaingoat]

STill: I am curious what is the matter with the chevrons rules? Why is it forbidden to make elite units?

well when you play online you can see why .... we want to have this at an even playing field for the most part .. it comes down to knowing what units to use at what time, and how to use terrain to your advantage , working as team etc ... having some 3 gold chevron general is going to cost you a lot of money and limit the number of troops you bring to the field .. if i were your ally and i saw you bring quarter of the units you could bring i would rage quit ...

the idea of not giving romani chevrons , is that hardly anyone from other factions get to really upgrade many if any of their units with even 1 chevron(at 36k) .. and although technically you could upgrade all with any faction , it would most likely entail you using very cheap units , the romani can pull this off with the exact opposite . so limiting their upgrade creates a more even playing field for all i guess ..

now what proxy problems are u having with hamachi ? do you know how to forward ports on your router?

[Jebivjetar]

No Carthage? Well, then i'll try with Makedonia. Sign teh Jebivjetar in!

[seienchin]

now what proxy problems are u having with hamachi ? do you know how to forward ports on your router?

Im living at a student dormitorium(Is that the english term?^^) and have to use my universities internet acces. I dont know why but even letting the hamachi run with my proxy settings doestn work. I had a friend help me, but he couldnt fix it either.

[Aulus Caecina Severus]

Sign me as Romani, please

[antisocialmunky]

Actually, change me ot KH.

[_Agrippa_]

COOL :)

Sign me as Romani , thanks

[The Celtic Viking]

If you're feeling lonely there, Goat, I can join your Gallic forces.

[mountaingoat]

lol , i am thinking of selecting a group of maps for the tournament .. and maybe have "home" and "away" battles .... so each faction gets a "home" map that is more suited to their playing style. or maybe just have 2 maps , with similar playing fields.

[antisocialmunky]

I don't want to fight the Gauls and Getai due to their naked rushing strategery.

[mountaingoat]

but you don't mind the great sweboz?

well you can always go as spectator?


guess i will do some "random" picks for the first round matchups

[antisocialmunky]

Question, what about KH's missing units. They have no Peltastai or Thessylian Cavalry.

Can we just require a fixed KH .edu?

[mountaingoat]

Prodromoi with 1 cheveron is close enough if not better (and slightly cheaper). Note that Hippeis Thessalikoi are only listed under makedon faction unit list.

as for the Peltastai missing that is strange , i guess instead you could use either Thrakioi Peltastai or Aichmetai Leukanoi without them counting towards merc pool.

[antisocialmunky]

I have ot change my mind to Sweboz.

[m0r1d1n]

hi all,

i played in the previous tourneys but had been off the MP for some time..good to see another tourney shaping up...the rules sem gr8
i would like to join in with KH (am ok with the roster suggestions)...although in case of shortage of players i am willing to take up any team..
my playing name in hamachi is moridin and available time is 6 pm to 11 pm ( GMT + 5:30) and full day on weekends..

[Knight of Heaven]

RAAABOOOOO!!! will go with my celtic friends the Aedui.
Btw rabo in portuguese means asse. :P a direct translation.

[mountaingoat]

very good

just wandering what the consensus is with certain units being mercs or not?

first off is Druhtiz Bastarnisku .. they are not listed under any faction and the EB webpage description shows them as eleutheroi in getai region.

second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

maybe some more to add later.

[Phalanx300]

The Sweboz!

Well the site isn't up too date but I gues to make things simple it might be better to keep things by the site?

[darius_d]

Hi guys,

I don't have, unfortunately, enough free time to engage myself, but will keep watching you.

GLHF!

[Knight of Heaven]

very good

just wandering what the consensus is with certain units being mercs or not?

first off is Druhtiz Bastarnisku .. they are not listed under any faction and the EB webpage description shows them as eleutheroi in getai region.

second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

maybe some more to add later.

Well for the mercs units, and factional units we cant rely on EB website, becouse i think what they have there is a a list of some units you can recruit as playing that faction. for instance, in the case of the Aedui, they have hellveti phalanx wich isnt factional and is a merc Alied, the arverni can recruit then as well.
My thought is the merc units are the ones you hire in as the general. the one it says mercenary on the name... i belive. :P

[antisocialmunky]

You know for the Sweboz roster, you should allow all the untis on their MP roster not including Celts(but including Celto-Germanics), Bastarnae, and the Lugii. Otherwise its going to be quite boring to play with 7ish units only.

I think you should also reinstate the 33K limit for Romans instead of 36K. Otherwise you see nothing but Pedite spam.

[Gabeed]

very good
second is Cidainh , though they show up as unit listed under the Casse , they are not shown with the Aedui ??

That's because the continental Gauls had largely moved on from chariots to cavalry.

Oh, and I'm happily married to my single player campaign with the BI.exe, so I think I'll have to pass on this fine tourney.

[Knight of Heaven]

That's because the continental Gauls had largely moved on from chariots to cavalry.

Oh, and I'm happily married to my single player campaign with the BI.exe, so I think I'll have to pass on this fine tourney.

Well yes but the point is what we considere factional and what we considere mercenary, in multiplayer tournament.
I for me, mercenaries are only the units we buy as mercenaries, for instance the gallic mercenaries, the kretan mercenaries. We cant rely on eb web site, becouse the unit list there isnt a factional list only. The aedui have Curepos, and Golberi Curoas
wich is mercenary in game and multiplayer roster. we cant recruit these units in game, only hire then.