[EB] EDU Balance Proposals

**gamegeek2** · 08-12-2011, 20:04

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Yeah, the Falxes were grotesquely powerful in vanilla and I think they should be better than they are now. The celtic long swords were used as heavy/slashing/bashing type things while falxes are basically polearms.

Have you seen a falx? It's a lot more like a two-handed sword with a forward curving blade, and a handle as long as the blade.

http://www.larp.com/legioxx/falxcut2.jpg

Example of a falx brutalizing a shield. The shield is, however, stationary and hence poses a similar problem to the arrow-vs-chainmail target test; real shields and armor give.

http://www.copii-arme-medievale.ro/i...lx%20dacic.JPG

Replica falxes.

**Kival** · 08-12-2011, 21:06

I think he's not speaking about spear-polearms, he's speaking about halberd-polearms. The general definition of polearm is something like "long shaft with similar or smaller blade than the shaft". All in all the angular momentum is increased for a falx, a two-handed longsword is more balanced than a falx. And a falx is piercing whereas a sword usally is slashing, a falx concentrates it's power on a smaller field. I hope my english is good enough, so you can understand me here...

**gamegeek2** · 08-12-2011, 23:18

Halberd: 6+ feet long
Falx: 4- feet long

And a falx is more of a slashing weapon, how else would it be known for lopping arms off?

**vartan** · 08-13-2011, 00:54

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

Halberd: 6+ feet long
Falx: 4- feet long

And a falx is more of a slashing weapon, how else would it be known for lopping arms off?

So give it a ridiculous attack value, such as 18.

**Kival** · 08-13-2011, 01:14

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

Halberd: 6+ feet long
Falx: 4- feet long

Nobody says it's the same as a halberd. The wikipedia article states that the two-handed version was actually 3+3 feet long but I'm surely no expert here.

And a falx is more of a slashing weapon, how else would it be known for lopping arms off?

It's both. Actually I'm not sure if evidence for any other "AP"-weapon is better than for the falx. However, I'd just to increase the strength of at least the two-handed falx in some way.

**gamegeek2** · 08-13-2011, 01:16

Currently it is a cheaper longsword with .325 lethality, for 3.0

**Kival** · 08-13-2011, 02:06

Originally Posted by gamegeek2

Currently it is a cheaper longsword with .325 lethality, for 3.0

Sounds interesting. How do you calculate attack value by the way? Is there any difference between weapons or is it only skill... or ;-)

**antisocialmunky** · 08-13-2011, 14:14

I was referring to something like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagamaki

Multi-purpose medium length cutting/stabbing thing. The only difference is the shape of the falx lends to 'lopping' instead of smooth 'slicing' because it catches. I still think it should be an AP weapon because you can use it to stab and a downward motion. It also looks like it would be quite penetrating unlike a sword since in a swing, you'd connect tip first unless you were very close instead of blade first. It would just depend if you used it like momentum + tip first or you instead use short strokes for stabbing over shields/catch parts of people to unbalance them and then stab/slash at their vital spots. Depends on fighting styles actually used but it would seem to me that its a versatile weapon that could be used for stabbing from a swing, lopping from a swing if you are closer, or short stabbing/grabbing strokes.

Additionally you could probably catch people off horses.

**gamegeek2** · 08-13-2011, 17:28

Versatile, sure.But I feel that it still fails to cut trough armor, is a poor pi an OK piercing weapon, but is best at chopping due to the forward curving blade, It lacks a sweet spot for chopping, meaning it can't deliver force in a manner like a kopis or an axe. Rather it strikes at weak spots, around shields, on bare skin; meaning the limbs, which it would lop off frighteningly, and thus the Romans adopted greaves and manica for the Dacian conflict.