EBOT 2011 August

[-Stormrage-]

Storm, I will be happy to let you "Farm" me next month. We will see how that goes.

LOOL nice comeback.

[antisocialmunky]

Storm, I will be happy to let you "Farm" me next month. We will see how that goes.

Not if I can help it. I'm Mak, the prices are borked and Mak has never worked that great at 36K (They are imba at 40K).

[Lazy O]

Actually I take back my statement, if some small fixes to the levy phalanx and some other stuff applies, Mak should be on par with other factions.

[-Stormrage-]

Macedon is a great faction except for the fact they dont have good cheap line infantry.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Well Deuteroi are too expensive compared to panda. Me and Lazy tested and there is no noticeable difference between the two except that Panda fares better i melee due to the axe. With guard off, Deuteroi lose to Panda. Stat-wise, Deuteroi are technically superior, but this doesn't bear itself out in battle scenarios.

Also, shouldn't Deuteroi be either considerably better or at least cheaper than Panda? These were Greeks fighting for Greeks, not a foreign levy with very few ties or allegiances to their alien overlords.

And by alien I mean foreign of course.

[Ludens]

Also, shouldn't Deuteroi be either considerably better or at least cheaper than Panda? These were Greeks fighting for Greeks, not a foreign levy with very few ties or allegiances to their alien overlords.

True, but in life-or-death combat, everybody fights to the best of their ability. Motivation should be reflected in morale, not fighting skill. The Deuteroi represent a levy of not-very-affluent land-owners that was only called in times of extreme danger. I doubt they were particularly well-trained or experienced.

[Lazy O]

Im changing faction . VIVA LA QART HADAST!!!

[The Celtic Viking]

Then I'll take the Seleucids.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

True, but in life-or-death combat, everybody fights to the best of their ability. Motivation should be reflected in morale, not fighting skill. The Deuteroi represent a levy of not-very-affluent land-owners that was only called in times of extreme danger. I doubt they were particularly well-trained or experienced.

I'm talking about morale mainly. Panda had little to lose in battle except their lives. Deuteroi would lose their homes if fighting an invader.

[Lazy O]

Im pretty sure the Panda was not a simple begger on a street and had a home worth defending but I agree they should have lower morale.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Well yes, but the Panda would be Syrians, Babylonians, Persians, etc. The victorious army would be simply looking to overthrow the ruling Greek dynasty and then draft those same Pantadapoi into THEIR army. Deuteroi had cultural ties to the ruling class.

[-Stormrage-]

You guys know nothing about the panda, its sad really.

Here this should help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda

Personally i think it should get an increase in damage due to this newly found evidence:
"Though the panda is often assumed to be docile, it has been known to attack humans, presumably out of irritation rather than predation."

I dont know why you call me unintelligent.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I have never insulted your intelligence Storm. In any event we were getting off topic. Let's leave the thread for declarations of player factions and the actual results.

[-Stormrage-]

i Know i was talking about someone else, it was designed to be a joke , i dont really care if someone insults me.

[gamegeek2]

I have never insulted your intelligence Storm. In any event we were getting off topic. Let's leave the thread for declarations of player factions and the actual results.

Im disappointed in you, Robin. You are a native English speaker, and you didnt get that obvious sarcasm?

[vartan]

Im disappointed in you, Robin. You are a native English speaker, and you didnt get that obvious sarcasm?

When you are so heavily immersed in such an appealing spectacle as EB Online, you don't have any room to detect such petty things as sarcasm.

P.S. Don't touch my pandas!

[antisocialmunky]

The main issue with Maks is they won't win a fight where there are scary units supporting phalanx unless they take Hysteroi or silvershields.

[Lazy O]

I seem to have forgotten to put up the Makedon discussion...

[gamegeek2]

Pezh might deserve higher morale, but the discipline cut was to make sure they actually rout when surrounded, which they werent really doing before unless a scary was present.

[Kival]

Wrong thread ;-). Please discuss this in one of the EDU threads.

[antisocialmunky]

The thing about discipline IIRC is that they aren't effected by non-disciplined routers. So it tends to be a rout-splosion. :\

[Vega]

Well i just have to say that i will not play with pontos I will play with romans again... Reason : "first love can never be forgotten" LMAO

[gamegeek2]

Munky I assure you, Makedon will be made more playable with the next patch, as will Epeiros, there will be a Deuteroi fix to make them worth their additional cost compared with pandas.

[-Stormrage-]

Munky I assure you, Makedon will be made more playable with the next patch

So there will be an EDU v2.2 for august ?

[Kival]

If Vega chooses Romani, I'll play Koinon Hellenon.

[Vega]

Kival if you want romans choose them i can change faction only point is that someone have to choose them in every tourney they must be most playable faction in all tourney :DDD

[antisocialmunky]

Munky I assure you, Makedon will be made more playable with the next patch, as will Epeiros, there will be a Deuteroi fix to make them worth their additional cost compared with pandas.

I was doing a dramatic impression of Lazy O.

[vartan]

Please take the debates and nonsense to the EDU thread. We will be using v2.1.1 for August. I will be releasing that soon enough.

EDIT: EDU v2.1.1 ready. Download it here.

[The Celtic Viking]

Switching to Pontos.

[-Stormrage-]

EDU v2.1.1 ready.

WTH this think just add +2 attack for skirmishers. What happened to all the balance Changes we were discussing. There is an everlasting supply of paragraphs and Essays talking about EDU changes in the "EDU Balance Proposals Thread"
What about GG's changes.