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    Default Everything you wanted to know about rifles of WW2.

    So because I am an american, I browse r/guns from time to time. Came across this post today, thought it would provide some interesting conversation here.

    http://imgur.com/a/zGV7i#0

    "This collection began as a simple wish to include one rifle from each participating nation of WWII. Unfortunately I didn't realize the scope of such a challenge. Instead of quitting while I was ahead, I dug in and did a lot of reading. Soon, some minor countries needed to be lumped together into regions (usually colonies). Each country/region is represented by a unique rifle. In cases in which two countries had the same primary rifle, a secondary weapon is selected. While I'm still making decisions on just what to include and how, the projected collection will total at least 64 pieces."

    This is when everyone begins to circlejerk about which rifle was the best. Hope you enjoy looking through the album as much as I did, I thought it was a good gallery of the weapons used by your average grunt in the deadliest war in history.



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    The Mongolian one (Mosin Nagant M1891/30) is by far the most aesthetically pleasing. I love the curves on the stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    M1 Garand, no contest. Who says otherwise?
    The STG 44 was a rifle, and was a superior weapon. One could even make the argument that a late model G43 was better than the M1... that's a more complicated discussion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube View Post
    M1 Garand, no contest. Who says otherwise?
    Any gun that loudly announces "hey I've gots to reload, shoot now!" can't be considered great.
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    The Nazi Germany's Technology was Greates of Its Time !! Better say All the time !! 1. because afterwards of WW II all the prototype & Design of Present Modern American & Russians Warfare Technologies were stealed from Defeated Nazi's Germany and Pirated & renamed it on their own !! 2. many warfare scientists & Designers were German, and after they completely used them they started to creating by their own !!
    if no Nazi Germany would have come = No Modern Warfare Technologies would have came that make USA & Russia The Present SuperPowers !!!
    ViVa Deutschland !! VivA ARYAN RACE !!

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    The Nazi Germany's Technology was Greatest of Its Time !!” I don’t know where you find your knowledge, but this is an opinion that doesn’t resist the facts.
    Germany went on the wrong path on Atomic Bomb.
    In term of technology in weaponry, they use the same than the Allies, including USSR.
    The Wehrmacht was lacking of sub-machine guns, the standard rifle (Mauser 98 A or K) was from a design of the Pre-1 WW, as indicted by the 98 marking.
    In term of tanks, it was the use, the tactic that was more advance than her opponents, this was true on the Western Front, but that true not on the Eastern Front. The French tanks in the 40s’ were better (in some aspects) than the German counterparts and when used properly, gave a bloody nose to the Panzer Divisions (i.e. battle of Gembloux). And in the East, it became even worst for the Germans. From the uniforms to the weapons and tanks (with few notable exceptions), the Germans were under the Soviet standard.
    For the “miracle” weapons, the German were ahead for missiles, but these were useless weapons. They spend precious resources in men and material to hit London when the Russians were heading to Berlin. As the new generation of planes, the Germans were ahead with the ME 262 (mainly) but the Allies were just behind. The GB Gloster Meteor arrived in 1945, and had the potential to be developed, Germany couldn’t afford. It was in 1944 that the soviets experimented their first Jet Engine, not based as the western Propaganda did successfully spread, on German Design. They used, as the USA, and included German technology, but they had their own research, as the Italians, the French, USA and the British.

    ViVa Deutschland !! VivA ARYAN RACE !!” All right, we do understand you love an aggressive, racist, murderer and defeated ideology.
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    And No One Can Deny That Nazi Germany Was More Advanced & Too Much Progressive in Development of Technology than USSR & USA !!
    your hatred can not change the truth !!
    the Exaples are too many !! Like The MAUS & King Tiger & Rail Gun Tanks That Shaked The Allies! - Gewehr 44 - FG44 & STG44 The Revolutionary Automatic/Semi Rifle in human History! - The First Modern Cruise Missiles & Rockets in Human History! - The First Working Jet Bomber & Fighter in Human History! - The Only first ocean-going Nuclear Submarines In The World! - The Jagedpanther - The Sturmtiger - Morser - And ....................MANY MANY MANY MANY that now i dont remember them and many that i dont know about them and many that Allies didnt let anyone know about it!! But The Most Important of all was The Nuclear Bomb That Hitler did not want to use it to Destroy the world until the end that he had no choice (and only wanted to hit London-Moscow-Washington; while USA Immediately USED it for 3 Civilian (non military) Cities and they never convicted!! ).
    and the other is the Silverbug or The Same Name You Know with THE UFO !!! A Super Technology that and the peak of the end of the war was a hope for Germany to survive!! They could !! but the time was too late !! The Fact is That Hitler made a Terrifying Mistake to Invade USSR! if he did not respect the Old Fox,Great Britain, USA & USSR were no match for him! so he defeated and his picture made too much exaggeratively evil by the USA & Zionists & FreeMasons!! and i say that "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE WINNER-Napoleon Bonaparte"!!
    (I say something else a little off topic - but, what you dont know or maybe some of you know, USA did not let that this super technologies be Blowned & unfolded to the world !! D.Werner Von Braun the Nazi German father of Missile & Rocket technology, in the end of the cold war that was working for USA, revealed & unfolded that USA's Military's Technology thanks by the First prototypes of Nazi Germany, now and any time, USA's Technologies is 25-35 years further and Ahead of any powerful nation in the world and want to use that Conspiracy (UFO & End of the world) after the soviets collapse & The Global Terrorism, to finish THE NEW WORLD ORDER !! as later more Scientists & Professors Like Cathy'O Brien - Richard C.Hoagland That Was In NASA - ........Even Melvin GoodMan The CIA Senior Analyst 1956-1986 Revealed them too that later were all Assassinated or strangely died!! now by the HollyWood Movies, Encourage The People To Believe In UFO's To Later How I Dont know to Fulfill THE NEW WORLD ORDER !!)

    I say Again ! Your Hatred that its not controlled by you directly, cant hide or deny the truths !!

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    ViVa Deutschland !! VivA ARYAN RACE !!” All right, we do understand you love an aggressive, racist, murderer and defeated ideology.
    He Hey Hey Hey !! Slow down !! Be Calm down !! i didnt say ONLY !! But Cheering for a Great Race in History does not mean Racism !! my love For Ex-Germany means Racism for you !! im sorry for you to suppress this things !! that because your Original Identity is Lost and Slaved For New World Order !!
    ok no more !! or your mind will blow !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empire Of Kurdistan-Medya View Post
    so he defeated and his picture made too much exaggeratively evil by the USA & Zionists & FreeMasons!! and i say that "HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY THE WINNER-Napoleon Bonaparte"!!
    Go watch Nuit et Brouillard, you can find it on youtube, and then come back here.

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    I really think you should read a little it more. This last passage is a mix of Conspiracy Theories, extreme-right propaganda, and pure lack of knowledge. I can probably go from one to one of your example but it would take too much of my time. The best of your rant: "The Nuclear Bomb That Hitler did not want to use". The same man who sacrificed his own soldiers in hopeless battles... But the way, there is only one Human Race (that is biology). However cheering for the Aryen Race is cheering for the Nazi Ideology. Nazism is based on Racism and it sick claim that some humans are superiors to others, and the superiors can at will slaughter, enslave or just exploit to death the others.
    And if you apply the same ideology you cheer, the slave "race" is the Aryen one, as it was defeated by the Judeo-Free Macon-Bolshevik in battle.
    Your knowledge of the WW2 is laughable.
    Stop read comics and read specialised books. The German last weapons were an answer to the T 34 and KV85 (e.i. Panther), not and technology breakthrough. The Germans never developed a Strategic Bomber Command, and just 1 4 engines “bomber” (Kondor) that was not good enough. The best assault airplane is the Stormovik, I would had the Thunderbolt to it.
    I can carry on.

    You come with childish claims, and as a child you perhaps are, you reflect on me your own lack of evidences. I gave you facts; you just pretend that the world is not fair.

    Now, if the Nazi gave of the technology to the USA (25 years advance according to you), how do you explain that the first man in space was a Russian (Youri Gagarin, in case of)? How it is possible that one of the best jet fighters in the post WW 2 was the Mig 15?

    that because your Original Identity is Lost and Slaved For New World Order”: Oh dear dear…
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    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
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    How amusing would it be if Empire and Total Relism were the same person trolling under two different personalities. The cut and paste as well as the hyperbole certainly seem similar. That's okay I'll bite.

    Nazi technology tried to replace German perfection with innovation and destroyed both in the process. The most successful German rifle, the same as the majority of European weapons of the time, was the Mauser. Often imitated, somewhat duplicated, it still stands as a benchmark of precision rifle making. A weaponsmith friend of mine says that in his circle they refer to the Enfield as a soldiers weapon, because it sent lead downrange the fastest, the Mauser K98 as a hunting rifle made to kill anything at great range, and the '03 Springfield as a target rifle, made for competition shooting.

    The warfighting techniques developing during WWII favored the most lead downrange approach, making a semi-auto like the M1 a great option.

    The best soldiering rifle of the time was the Karabiner Model 1931 (K31) used by the Swiss army, who didn't participate in WWII so I suppose it doesn't qualify for this study.
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