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    Efram, they are SMACs nukes.

    As for my best ever game

    part 1

    First of all a word about my playing style. I'm most definately a builder and I like to win by either transcendance or diplomacy. I like to tech up & keep small ground forces protected by a large air-force. Because of this getting to Doctrine: Air Power is one of my game priorities. Having needlejets when no-one else does is a *huge* advantage and if you can build Cloudbase Academy you assume a dominant position.

    In my game I was the UN and Planet was divided into 2 large continents, North and South (henceforth NC & SC) The Hive very quickly wiped out the other 3 factions and assumed dominance of the North (don't they always). In the South was the UN, gaians & Spartans. The Spartans tried attacking me but I gave them a good kicking and they were left with 2 cities in the SE with tiny populations & signed a pact of submission. I was pact brothers with the Gaians and through tech sharing I rapidly climbed the tech ladder, soon leaving them behind. The had the Northern strip of SC and I had the rest and there was very little space left for me to expand into apart from a barren patch in the NE part of SC. On a little peninsula sticking out to the north there were just enough resources to justify establishing a city there which I did, leaving it slowly grow and pretty much forgetting about it.

    Anyway one year I get a seismic event type message. Turns out that my little penisula had just become joined to the NC by the thinnest strip of land. My city was very isolated and there were no roads there yet so reinforcing the tiny garrison (which being a size 3 city had taken forever) would take forever. Then one day I suddenly notice Hive units coming down that thin strip of land from the North - an invasion force I say invasion force, it was the SMAC equivalent of the Golden Horde There were literally dozens & dozens of Hive units stacked into those few squares My tiny garrison would stand no chance and there was no hope of reinforcement. The UNAF was my only hope.

    Operating at maximum range from my own & Gaian cities, my needlejets could just reach the advancing hive army. A crash production program of attach jets was ordered, but for now my small AF of about a dozen units would have to do. Round the clock bombing operations were ordered and turn after turn my planes poured death and destruction upon the Hive army. When my needlejets were down to 50% efficiency I would ground them for a turn for repair & replenishment and they were sorely missed whenever I did so. Several times my City came under bombardment as hive artillery came within range and once or twice advance Hive scouts got to the city borders but they were always beaten back by my Air Force in the nick of time.

    It was my very own Battle of Britain, constantly hanging in the balance, would my few be enough to hold back the enemy hordes?



    To be continued...
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

    Senator Augustus Verginius

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    Have you armed your needle jets with chemicals?? That +50% attack is very usefull.
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    I was the UN, and I don't do WMDs unless its against the aliens. I'm the good guy
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

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    But the humanitarians are the evil group in my games. Brother lal is evil and must be killed.
    "talking poo is where I draw the line"-Eric Cartman
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    My arch enemies were, and always will be, the Believers. It seems like they always just want to pick a fight with me. I remember my best game of SMAC ever was when I was stranded on one oblong continent with the Believers, and things finally erupted. I had a tech advantage, but they had air superiority and overwhelming numbers. And I mean OVERWHELMING. Lucky for me, my scientists discovered chemical warfare, and the Believing scum soon asphyxiated on the plains of the continent. Of course I was embargoed for about four hundred years or something like that, but it didn't matter. (I used gas every chance I could, even just on regular units) Then I got a healthy tech lead, made hovertanks and all sorts of frighteningly effective infantry and ships, and took their sea bases, followed by a pincer movement from my territory and several sea-borne invasions. Of course, the Hive decided they wanted to ally against me (along with pretty much everyone else) so my planet buster technicians finally got some target practice, if you catch my drift. Never di finish that game, though...

    Where did you guys get the X-Pac??? I can never find it.

    Efrem, anybody can get planet busters, and they are great. They totally wipe out a city, and any units in the squares around it. AND NOT JUST UNITS They turn the ACTUAL LAND into water. Can you imagine taking a tour? Yes, and over here is Lake Efrem, named after our glorious leader. *Boy raises hand* Yes? What used to be here before we came? Why, that's simple. UN Headquarters.

    It takes a long time to build them until you get the better power plant technologies.




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    The X-Pack is no longer sold separately for pc, I believe. I got mine through the laptop pack, the only way it is now sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Lehesu @ Feb. 28 2004,20:46)]
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    Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ Feb. 28 2004,19:11)]WHAT ARE PLANET BUSTERSS????? AND HOW DO I GET ONE
    Mail in 300 box tops plus shipping and handling to this address:

    Morgan Industries Inc.
    Morgan City, Planet
    210 Greed Lane


    Allow three to four days for delivery.
    That, sir, was really damn funny.

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    Efrem, anybody can get planet busters, and they are great. They totally wipe out a city, and any units in the squares around it. AND NOT JUST UNITS They turn the ACTUAL LAND into water.



    OMG OMG I WANT THEM I will have to load up the game to see if I can
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Efrem Da King @ Mar. 01 2004,00:56)]OMG OMG I WANT THEM I will have to load up the game to see if I can
    Oh dear, there goes Chiron. Nothing within 16-22 squares of his bases will every be safe again . . .

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    I have a strange desire for a picture of Brother Lal's face with a big old x over it, like in no-smoking signs. I would put that sucker in my sig in a heart beat.
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    Hey Lehusu, you should use the Faction Editor to create a Kikkoman faction
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

    Senator Augustus Verginius

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Mount Suribachi @ Mar. 03 2004,01:59)]Hey Lehusu, you should use the Faction Editor to create a Kikkoman faction
    I could imagine a warhead for a new missile. We have fungal, tectonic, and planet buster. Why not soy?
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    Hey, Mr. Mount, I read the Forgotten Faction over at Apolyton, but I could only find volumes 1 and 2. It cut off right when the Caretakers were about to hire Morganites for building the subspace beacons, and the probe work was just getting interesting Am I missing it, or has it gone the Way of Most Fanfic and will never be finished?

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    I absolutely love SMAC I got the expansion pack when it came out, and I love the fact you can create new factions from scratch, instead of just renaming your leader or faction name.
    It also helped that I was a Civ player back when the original Civilization was being sold in stores.
    Oh, and Colonization is sweet too. Civ for the exploration and conquest of the Americas.

    My second favorite of the Civ games would be the CivII expansion pack, Fantastic Worlds (I think), which added new worlds, new techs, and a load of other stuff, including a sky world and an underworld (and Alpha Centauri for the normal game), and you could move units (which had the ability) between the worlds

    EDIT: Correction, it was CivII: Test of Time, not CivII: Fantastic Worlds.




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    Lehesu take if from an old Alpha Centauri veteran. The game is very difficult and you should get a strategy guide to fully learn and enjoy its many detailed decisions which lead to a good game. The AI is very tough. I played quite a bit of email and online games too. They take forever to play, but i had a few fanatical SMAC friends to play with on a regular basis. I was a killer University player.

    If you want some tips let me know.

    If you like turn-based war games, the best out there now is the Combat Mission games. Combat Mission Barbarossa and Combat Mission Afrika Corp are the best in the series. You can play it online, or PBEM. The AI is very tough too.
    I have seen the future of TW MP and it is XBox Live!

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Mysterium @ Mar. 26 2004,00:24)]Hey, Mr. Mount, I read the Forgotten Faction over at Apolyton, but I could only find volumes 1 and 2. It cut off right when the Caretakers were about to hire Morganites for building the subspace beacons, and the probe work was just getting interesting Am I missing it, or has it gone the Way of Most Fanfic and will never be finished?
    Sadly, as far as I am aware, thats it I remember seeing a post where some of the Apolyton vets were trying to track down the author, to no avail Its such a shame as what we have is sooo brilliant.

    BTW, I read Joe. Brilliant Superb writing I felt it lost it just a little towards the end - I didn't find Lal very believable & it seemed a little rushed, but thats nitpicking because my expectation were so high because of the first 80% which was such brilliant writing. Real can't put it down stuff
    "I request permanent reassignment to the Gallic frontier. Nay, I demand reassignment. Perhaps it is improper to say so, but I refuse to fight against the Greeks or Macedonians any more. Give my command to another, for I cannot, I will not, lead an army into battle against a civilized nation so long as the Gauls survive. I am not the young man I once was, but I swear before Jupiter Optimus Maximus that I shall see a world without Gauls before I take my final breath."

    Senator Augustus Verginius

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    Yah, the ending was a little of a let-down for me as well. Not because it wasn't good, but because it was only as good as what had gone before. All of the political machination in the UN in the end there? I felt like the story built it up and it didn't deliver. Sort of like a rocket launch where just the top pops off and nothing happens.

    But man, can that woman write probe team missions. I mean, phew The thing where they stole his heard after breaking onto the mag-train was absolutely wonderful.

    That's really too bad about the Forgotten Faction. Best writing of Progenitors I've seen. Makes me want to try my hand at some SMAC fiction again . . .

    So, the Laptop Pack is the only place to get Crossfire now? I'm ashamed to say , I've actually never played the x-pansion pack. Which is riDICulous.

    Kekvit, what's that about 3 worlds you were saying? Sounds kinda like the Cavewars thing (anyone ever play that?). I loved being able to build units *above* someone, then tunnel down and destroy them . . . mwaha.




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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Mysterium @ Mar. 26 2004,14:50)]Kekvit, what's that about 3 worlds you were saying? Sounds kinda like the Cavewars thing (anyone ever play that?). I loved being able to build units *above* someone, then tunnel down and destroy them . . . mwaha.
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