Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran
Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran
"Something can be done, by careful analysis, to sort out truth from propaganda and legend. But this is where the real difficulties begin, since each student inevitably selects, constitutes criteria, according to his own unconscious assumptions, social, ethical or political. Moral conditioning, in the widest sense, plays a far greater part in the matter than most people- especially the historians themselves-ever realize."
-Peter Green
Don't look at me, blame the worst part of the storyline. Is it possible to make peace than? I wanna get rid of the Genoans and Persians instead.Originally Posted by kamikhaan
If you are willing to make peace, you can arrange the terms by PM then either declare it publicly or PM me if you want it done privately.
It seems I've stuffed a fewthings up in the Currency section . kamikhaan, lets abolish the Dirham, if it exsisted it wouldn't do good trade as only a fewnations use. If you and the Empire make peace, the Tugra shall be used.
@Caius, The Ecus will be included next chapter.
It seems no one minds the new Economy part, I will draft up a few more rules on it and try and include it next chapter. The New Year brings much.
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Message from the Ottoman Sultan:
"Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance, your words offend me, but as a fellow Muslim, I shall forgive you and your people. I apologise for the mischief I have caused recently and I assure you, I have no further intentions of invading your lands, I will withdraw all troops threatening your lands immediately and in return, please do the same."
I know this is kind of stupid, but first of all, I joined here AFTER the Ottoman Sultan attacked the African Alliance. Second, I'm tired right now it's 2:00 AM so forgive me if you think I haven't put much of an effort on this speech.
The government of Scotland begs the Pope for a response, and wishes to once again to reiterate that we did not DISOBEY the Pope, we merely used extra time to prepare the ships for the bishops!!! Would it please your Holiness if our King gets whipped by monks? (Worked with Henry the Second, hopefully might work for me )
The Bavarian leader had one too many meads that particular evening. He is now back to his right state of mind.Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
The Bavarian Calvinist wish to show their support for their Scottish bretheren.
Er... one third of Scotland accepts your support, and the other two third says "keep your nose out of our country"!
One third of Scotland is still begging for the Pope's forgiveness.
A Open Message From Rome
We which to applaud Scotland's wise decision, and call off the Crusade, when the Bishops get here. I shall not call off any invaders until they arrive in Rome.
We call to Genoa to stop their useless offensive against Venice. We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.
If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.
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A Declaration of Guarantee
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Ferdinand I
Archduke of Austria
King of the Romans and Heir to the Holy Roman Emperor
King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia
And I would also support your decision to include more decisions about the economy and religious matters in the next chapter. It will make it a whole lot more fun and interactive.
Through the ages every weapon has evolved from two basic design philosophies, either a rock or a sharp pointy stick.
"We're not Communists, we're not pinko... we can't be, 'cause you pay to come and see us and we sell t-shirts at our gigs". Cedric Bixler-Zavala of At the Drive-In
“I grew an afro. Not only did it make me cool, but it did wonders for my career. Oh, and I can get chicks now, too.” Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
Thank you thank you oh mighty Pope, all of the Bishops who wish to leave will leave (with escort!)Originally Posted by Baby Boomer
Such help is greatly need, and it will be received, for the good of our tired soldiers who are resting in peace.If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
I still await orders from:
The Kingdom of Bavaria (King Jan III Sobeski)
The African Alliance (kamikhaan)
The African Alliance is now pure Muslim. The new Persian map is going up tonight.
If you didn't get a map with your orders or in the Chapter please always refer to the first post in this thread, I update the map very Chapter (As I have been doing)
In that Map (I call it the Reference Map) the Red Dots show Battles, greensish show sieges, blue show blockades. I hope it helps. The Chapter will be posted when I am finshed writing the decisions, I shall not wait for either of the two. Remeber, miss sending your orders in two turns in a row, and severe consequences will mysteriously strike your nation.
Hold on a bit... I'm workin' on something.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
Well, now that I'm safe from any attacks from the west, time to kill me some Persians and Genoans!
I have received PM's, and will be taken into account.
kamikhaan's order have been sent (Well he didn't need to send them) King Jan III Sobeski, I am posting the Chapter when I come back online, you have 14 hours to submit before it expires.
The new Europe Map is up, but try not to look at it just yet, its a bit too new. (:Everyone races to look at it:)
Open letter to the other catholic nations:
To all catholic nations, I offer you reduced trade rights for your ships in all of Irelands ports if you grant my ships the same. I hope this becomes custom between catholic nations. It'll increase international trade and in turn strenghten our economies to withstand the threaths of todays' world.
To Rome:
I, am grateful for the support of Rome and what it represents. I, however, have no plans for an invasion whatsoever. I plan on spreading the one true fate by word rather than by sword. For this I need no support, though I thank you for the offer and hope the day will never come that I ask of you to honour this offer.We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.
To the Genoans:
Stop your attack on fellow catholics and face east. This diminishing of border forces has played only in the cards of the wretched Turks. Like I said once before, we must tend to the enemies at the gates of fort Europe before we should squabble over who can own the keep.
Gerald FitzGerald,
Earl of Kildare and Peer of Ireland
By grace of God
Last edited by Peasant Phill; 01-02-2008 at 15:40.
Originally Posted by DroneOriginally Posted by TinCow
To the anglican Irishmen:
I must demand you cease your resistance against the assimilation of Dublin and it's surroundings into the rest of Ireland.
By now you must realise that no support will come for your cause. Scotland bows to Rome and England renounced its claim on you. Other, more distant nations that might be sympathetic have other far more pressings matters to attend to.
You're blocked of, isolated, from the rest of the world. Irish ships and troops at sea and on land surround you from every side.
The momentum of the Anglican faith into catholic lands has stopped and resistance is stirring everywhere. It won't be long before the brave men and women of Ireland take it on themselves to push you back into the sea from where you came.
When that happens the bloodshed and loss will be immense. I'd rather not see this happen and thus give you a chance to surrender peacefully and with much to keep.
Send an envoy as soon as possible so that we can start the negotiations.
Gerald FitzGerald,
Earl of Kildare and Peer of Ireland
By grace of God
Originally Posted by DroneOriginally Posted by TinCow
Oh well, I am waiting for the next chapter.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
Chapter IV
From
November 1st
‘till
February 1st
The situation in Europe, Middle East and North Africa is better. In North Italy, the war is not letting down. The Austrians fortify their precious and edgy positions in Bellarno and Bolzano. The Archduke quickly orders 10 000 troops to advance south from Innsbruck to supply reinforcements for the battered Invasion Force. Moments before they reach there they sight a large Genoese Army of 20 000 marching over the Alps from Milan, heading straight to siege Bolzano. The 10 000 strong army heads instantly for the city and reaches it before the Genoese. The Genoans siege the city and casualties are sustained, nothing serious. As some 3 000 are raised in Bellarno to reinforce the besiege city, Bolzano is struck by the force coming from Zagreb. The Army equals a small 5 000 and your General readies himself to smash their forces, who are strangely confident. A 10 000 strong force joins the one already their totaling 15 000. In further inspection, it is revealed they are Sicilian. Both of Austria’s newly gained territories are under siege by Christmas Eve. A day reasoned to be peaceful, the Genoans attempt to finish their siege of Bolzano by a bold assault against gun towers and trained Austrians soldiers. They are easily fought off after only two hours fighting, and lose 1 000 men. The Genoans are certain of victory and the Sicilian General leading the siege of Bellarno even holds a feast on Christmas night. The next day though, joyous news reaches the Archduke. His Task Force of 25 000 men had reached the edge of the Venice province and were nearly at Venice. At this news 5 000 break off the siege of Bolzano and 2 000 from Bellarno and early January reach Tierxio province. As they march to the aid of their other army in Venice they accidentally stumble across a camped 4 000 strong Austrian Army who were very alert. The Genoan Army hurriedly retreats then deploys in a favored position to attack the Austrians there, and then advance under the poor command of their General, they however, find, that the Austrians were gone and continued for Venice. They are sidetracked again, by the news that a 6 000 strong army has entered Genoan held Waline and assaulted the city. They set off again towards there under the comforting notion that their army near Venice could hold out. As they march there, they are ambushed. It was cleverly planned by one of Austria’s best Generals, Peter Ansbach. He effectively destroyed 5 000 of their force in a battle raging for at least one day.
In Croatia though, a strong 50 000 Turkish army advances over the border and heads for Zagreb, while the Sultan agrees with a attack on the Knights in Rhodes, and a task force is raised, 30 000 strong, who are transported across the ocean and reach the small island of Rhodes. The part closer to Turkey is taken, but the lower half of the island puts up a strong defense involving Italian mercenaries. After losing 10 000 in 2 weeks, and only 2 000 of theirs, the General gives up and he personally heads to Constantinople, where he is beheaded as customary of the Guards. They did it not on the order of the Sultan. When news of the Defense of Rhodes reaches Europe, the previously promised support of civilians in Zagreb is lost, as they stand up and declare themselves for Genoa, as does the surrounding provinces, and most of Croatia. This is received with surprise by the Turkish Army who all the same, siege Zagreb. The City musters some 8 000 soldiers and hope to repeat Rhodes. Further south in Greece though, a Sicilian navy wanders around the ports there and even start to threaten the Greek shores.
In France matters change just as dramatically, and to the intense pleasure of the Catholic King, Rouen cracked just after December unable to cope with the idea of extra bombardment. The mortars sent from Orleans are still heading there though. The Catholic Army occupied Rouen by the New Year and managed to patch up some heavier, and lighter, marks before they were sieged by the Lutheran French Force. The Eastern French force, massing as 15 000 strong. The other Lutheran French strong points are alerting the rest of the country for more offensives and raising County Militia. The Lutheran King though is sick of being on the defensive and immediately marches another 15 000 strong army from Dijon to attack Clermont – Ferrmond. 10 000 siege the leading city there, and another 5 000 fan out around the countryside to search for the Catholic Army. 2 000 Swiss Pikemen appeared in Toulon port, and another 2 000 are behind Lutheran France and in Switzerland, where they plan to return if invaded. Rome meanwhile, has landed 2 000 Papal Guard at Avingon, where they hope to help Catholic France, though still maintain a Papal General.
The Holy Roman Emperor has been ordered by advisors and personal friends to write down his will, and his heir. He refuses to write down his heir for now, saying that death is far away, or so he thinks at the ripe age of 82. The Saxon Duke has privately stated that he is the successor, and confusingly, so has the Franconian Duke. While these troubles occur, in the south Augsburg is not passed away yet. The Rebels, refused allegiance by Austria, Bavaria and Genoa, hosted a Council to decide their future course. They have decided they will form a new Duchy, of The Palatine, or will form a new Kingdom, named Kingdom of Swabia. They have at least 10 000 troops and pose a serious threat, or ally. The Holy Roman Emperor has also asked Genoa to stop their attacks, and has outlined terms (See Spoiler) if agreed too then Austria and Turkey are to withdraw. Rome has followed along the lines of the Empire and agreed with the Emperor’s terms, though unofficially. In Frankfurt, the economic and political capital of the Empire, a stable capital of Florin has been sent up following the previous lines of Augsburg, now economically destroyed and officially crashed. Bavaria, ruler of Augsburg, has also stabilized.
In The British Isles, matters clam down as the King of Scotland declares he will send the bishops. The 30 bishops who escaped from Catholic France during the war are joyous about this, as are the Scottish people when the York and Manchester armies back down. As the transport ships are loading, and the Catholic bishops are being escorted, a horrible deed happens. As they walk down the street, praised by numerous Catholic residents, three gun shots sound. Three bishops died, and the remaining hid. Another five were killed before the three killers were found, and there punishment awaits. The Catholic’s of Scotland, upon hearing this accuse the Scottish King of plotting this, and threaten action. Suspicion boils away in Catholic England, and the rest of the Catholic world, and Rome, are still to be heard. In Ireland, things do not change as dramatically as in Scotland. Several Anglican ships are spotted to the north of Ulster, and a fleet was reported by a overenthusiastic fisher heading around the south of Ireland. They were reportedly sighted again, this time by a beggar in Cork, but the morning was extremely foggy, and the pub owner, under further investigation by Catholic Ireland soldiers, has said the beggar has show delusions of illness. These minor problems are outlined by a overwhelming graph presented by the Catholic King’s Catholic Priest, Patrick O’Donnell, that news of a special Assassin’s Guild has been set up in Ulster. If this is true it could prove attempts on the King’s life.
In The lands of the Teutonic Order, a certain outspoken Meister was quietly informed by unnamed sources that he was being very rude to the Hochmeister, and the results this could be achieved. It was then that he took to papers and streets that the country was no longer free before the papers refused this and crowds swelled. The newly appointed Meister of Prussia, Joan Staufen, has sent several highly esteemed men to quieten the Livonian Meister down. It worked, but a rift has appeared between the two houses with statements coming from the Livonian Meister of unfairness. After this debacle another one sprang forward, seemingly stirring in the pot for some time. The Polish accused the Order of hostile intentions and it was all revealed. 15 000 men were on the border separating the two states, and a Teutonic Spy was imprisoned in Warsaw. He managed to get information to his Hochmeister, stating that the Polish were waiting for him, and had a 20 000 strong army waiting in a village nearby the border for the Teutonic Army to attack. These problems were further influenced when a arrow and bullet narrowly missed the Prussian Meister, Joan Staufen, form thence he was sheltered. The Hochmeister is lucky he is in the large castle at Konigsberg. Military matters have not escalated between the two states, as has not war.
The Russian Tsar has finally emerged from Moscow to announce his intentions. The Ukraine rebels had thought they had the cat in the bag, when no Russian Army emerged to assault their province. At this they managed to muster another thousand men and taken two more provinces intending to beak off from the Empire. There hopes were dashed when a 30 000 strong army arrived from Moscow. The rebels fled from their provinces into deeper Ukraine territory, the Russian army at once gave chase but were constantly attacked by Guerilla forces, losing at least 1 000 men. The rebels are still not found but are rumored to be hid by several towns in Crimea. In Finland, a Swedish fleet managed to find a safe Harbour nearby Russian controlled Helsinki, provincial capital opf Southern Finland. This was given as hostile intentions and a warning shot was fired from the fort at Helsinki, and when the Swedish ships didn’t leave a Russian fleet managed to blockade their escape route.
In Spain, The Spanish Army advanced north but was faced with a large Portuguese army, all they could muster. The battle raged for some hours before a Pyrrhic victory occurred with the Spanish leaving the field with larger casualties, but followed closely by the Rebels. Other then that battle not much happened, except the extension of the Portuguese domains.
The Kingdom of Scotland:
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Kingdom of Catholic Ireland:
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The Kingdom of Catholic France:
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The ArchDuchy of Austria:
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Duchy of Bavaria:
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The Teutonic Order:
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The Tsardom of Russia:
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African Alliance:
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Ottoman Empire:
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The Kingdom of Spain:
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Recruitable Mercainaires:
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Worth of Currency:
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Timeline of History from 1540
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The Terms Outlined by the Holy Roman Emperor, and seconded by the Pope and numerous others:
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All of your extra choices, a new feature:
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If it does, I will edit in the new feature, if not, I will scrap it.
Well, good luck! I hope you enjoying the Interactive.
Deadline: 13th of January
Last edited by Baby Boomer; 01-09-2008 at 03:43.
Open Message from Western France:
We are looking desperately for help. Our good nation is under threat. Our world is fighting, our good brothers are dying... We are forced, because we don't see any other way of resolving conflicts, to use our force and strength to deal with this constant headache for our nation. Yes, war seems to be the logical, but, nevertheless, a non ethical way to resolve this conflict. Dialgue seems not to be an ability for our brothers, the Eastern France people. They understand for dialogue as one word that they don't use. In other words, we can't stop this war.
Our intentions are good ones. We want an unificated France, under the same flag. Sadly, thanks to the Eastern part of our country, that is not possible.
We are very grateful of having allies in this matter of France. We have to, as an obligation, say Thank you to Rome. We need help to fight against our enemies, and Rome has so far good intentions of helping. Their help is the best one we could get.
Now, I call you, Catholic people, to pray for our soldiers. I ask you for help, and some day, I will retribute it.
Have a nice day
Western France Leader.
OOC:It's the best I could do.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
It seems a number of people are confused over the new feature I am trying to add. let me explain better;
Every company owns a percentage of that currency, as the given example before, for the Florin. The worth of a currency is given of how many people own part of that currency. If 10 people own part of it, it isn't worth as much. If one person has a owns it all, it is most likely #1.
So at the start of every turn, you are given 5000 pieces of that money. When you want to buy a piece of a certian currency (3000 for 5%) Say it publicly, and I will change the prices. They can be changed and swapped around untill you run out of money. Its ongoing.
Now does it make better sense? The whole feature is every nation owns a Company (Saxony owns Royal Saxon Company) and Saxony owns 10% of the Florin. They get 5000 Florins and they can spend it by buying percentages of other companies, until they totally own it. But every other nation will be doing that as well.
When you reach 0% you can no longer buy percantages until you buy back in, which costs 10 000, giving your Trade Opponet percious time. With this feature you can also form Trade Agreements, meaning you will not buy each others percantages.
To form a second company, it costs 25 000, to completely outright buy or own a enemy company (Meaning they can't buy anymore) It costs 40 000 or if you annex all their cities.
PM me if you want a better explanation.
Last edited by Baby Boomer; 01-03-2008 at 05:29.
Umm..., Baby Boomer, where is the outline for the peace treaty/truce with Genoa the Pope and the HRE were pushing through?
And about the percentages with the florin companies? The example only has 90% of the ownership of the florin, where is the other 10%?
Oh, and I'm enjoying this interactive.
Through the ages every weapon has evolved from two basic design philosophies, either a rock or a sharp pointy stick.
"We're not Communists, we're not pinko... we can't be, 'cause you pay to come and see us and we sell t-shirts at our gigs". Cedric Bixler-Zavala of At the Drive-In
“I grew an afro. Not only did it make me cool, but it did wonders for my career. Oh, and I can get chicks now, too.” Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
A Open Message From The Knights of St. John:
As of now, petty wars are being waged on the mainland between good Christian nations! Already here, through determination and iron will we have resisted a invasion force much larger then us. We can not hold forever, and once our fortress's break, as will our mens backs, a flood of Turkish soldiers will fall into Europe! We, The pure Knights of St. John, ask for support and soldiers to drive back the Turk, regian what the Romans had those many years ago!
To The Turk, we ask you to withdraw. It is useless to keep siegeing our mighty forts when you can retreat, already 10 000 lay dead out our walls, with only slight casualties sustained by our Knights. We shall have support from our Chisitian brothers, and from there, drive you out!
Let all Knight Orders, help, even the Teuton Knights in North germany, though the connections between our two ancient orders are long ago, we, The Knights of Rhodes, feel they remain strong.
The Council of Knights,
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Last edited by Baby Boomer; 01-03-2008 at 06:59.
For example, I have the Ecus(not yet because you forgot ) as my local currency. IF noone uses it, I control all the market?
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
What are the companies for Scotland?
Open Message of Western Empire to The Knights of Saint John:
You knock us to our door for help, and we are in problems too. We cant help, all we got for you is luck and some supplies we could send to you. I'm teribly afraid thats the only thing I can do.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
A message to the Knights of St.John, Rhodes, and Hospitaller:
It was only some 250 years ago, a small time on the scale of of our struggle against the Turk and Muslim, that we fought together hand and hand to defend the fortress of Acre from the Muslims. Though the fortress fell, we fought to the last as brother Christians. Though we disagree on the tenets of our Christianity, our foe remains the same. Therefore I support your cause and pray for the survival of your holy order. But alas, the troubles of my lands prevent me from sending aid at the moment but If i can at some later date I will send some of my most fearless knights to your aid. I will even send Livonians, still catholics, if that be your wish. But restv assured the Knights Teutonic support your cause.
Hochmeister Joachim Hector II of the Teutonic order.
"Something can be done, by careful analysis, to sort out truth from propaganda and legend. But this is where the real difficulties begin, since each student inevitably selects, constitutes criteria, according to his own unconscious assumptions, social, ethical or political. Moral conditioning, in the widest sense, plays a far greater part in the matter than most people- especially the historians themselves-ever realize."
-Peter Green
If there is not a lot of nations using one currency, I will throw in some other companies as well.
@shlin28. I haven't added them yet because I was checking to see if evryone is alright. If somebody doesn't want it I won't add you.
(btw, is my sultan's name "Solyman" or Solloman?)
Touch chapter, looks like it's going to take awhile to get used to the new feature.
A Open Message from Saxony:
We write this letter to our Emperor, and to my fellow Prince Electors, those being the Duke of Franconia, Duke of Bavaria and ArchDuke of Austria. Saxony lately has assumed a very large army, we are second to one in this EMpire, and second to few in Europe. We control large tracts of land, those larger then Franconia or Bavaria. So we call upon my fellow Dukes, and the old Emperor, to grant this ppor DUchy of Saxony the honorable title of ArchDuchy of Saxony.
Though Ferdiniand, you might not want this, I believe it would give a balanced Empire, having two ArchDuchy's, and seeing as Saxony grows daily through peaceful means,quite the opposite of our Austrian friend, and we have a very large economy. Being a DUchy, we can not go through daily buisness as well.
So 2 Dukes of this EMpire, and the Emperor, sign a form enabling us the position of ArchDuchy, we shall be forever grateful.
Here is the Treaty:
From this day forth that two Duke's of the most Holy Roman Empire, and the great Emperor of this great Holy Roman Empire sign this treaty, the large Duchy of Saxony shall be granted the pirvlieages and titles of a ArchDuchy, thus balancing the Empire's uneven stack of ArchDuchy's.
Signed by the honorable Duke of Saxony,
_______
_______
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Last edited by Baby Boomer; 01-04-2008 at 11:05.
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