POTUS Election thread

[Fragony]

Got to wonder what Assange had on the Hillary, he's an alledged Trump supporter and his internet was cut of

[Idaho]

Thanks, and that was a given. But I can dream, can't I?
Maybe once Hillary makes only politics for the banks the people will become more ready for someone like Sanders.

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

[Husar]

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

That's racist.

On a more serious note, I think it is their culture, how they grow up. May call it innate flippantly, but it's just a narrative they grow up with and not all of them buy it anymore either. Sanders got relatively far even if it was not far enough after all.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

Trust? Not really, we are well aware of corporate lobbying and the like. A lack of antipathy? Yes. Especially so when it is not some faceless corporation but a personified story of success. Remember, in our culture, many of us really do think that -- with hard work, a good idea or two, and some luck -- that we or our children could achieve that same success for themselves. We don't assume them to be "the enemy" as a matter of course.

And of course we trend "right" when crises hit -- we start a bit left of center as a norm, so the balance tends to swing that direction when pushed.

[Hooahguy]

Got to wonder what Assange had on the Hillary, he's an alledged Trump supporter and his internet was cut of

Wasnt it the embassy itself which cut it off? Not everything is a Clinton conspiracy.

[Fragony]

Wasnt it the embassy itself which cut it off? Not everything is a Clinton conspiracy.

Never said it was. But she frightens me, I can't shake the feeling that she's extremily dangerous. Not because of arguments but because of body-language.

[Idaho]

Trust? Not really, we are well aware of corporate lobbying and the like. A lack of antipathy? Yes. Especially so when it is not some faceless corporation but a personified story of success. Remember, in our culture, many of us really do think that -- with hard work, a good idea or two, and some luck -- that we or our children could achieve that same success for themselves. We don't assume them to be "the enemy" as a matter of course.

And of course we trend "right" when crises hit -- we start a bit left of center as a norm, so the balance tends to swing that direction when pushed.

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

[Husar]

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

He only got a really small loan of a million and all of his family's business contacts and friends...

[edyzmedieval]

Donald Trump got a 1 million dollar loan from his father, and he had a very impressive / serious network of contacts, plus Manhattan as his working place.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

Admittedly, a first class education and a $14m stake is easier to work with than $65k in college loan debt and a $42k/annum start.

[HopAlongBunny]

Latest from FiveThirtyEight:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...inton-winning/

Clinton continues to lead, but Trump still in the hunt.

[edyzmedieval]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...cast.html?_r=0

93% chance of Hillary winning.

[Fragony]

Winter is coming

edit, these sexual abuse accusations are getting a bit rediculous, asking a pornstar to come back to his room for 10.000 dollar sexual abuse? You are a pornstar ffs sake you do everything for money, you have had probably had enough sperm on/in you to colonise Jupiter. I can't help starting to feel sorry for Trump even despite not liking him, I am starting to see him as a victim of militant feminists, soooo false and relentless. Like Hillary. Must be hard to be the underdog against a perfectly oiled machine

[HopAlongBunny]

Winter is coming

edit, these sexual abuse accusations are getting a bit rediculous, asking a pornstar to come back to his room for 10.000 dollar sexual abuse? You are a pornstar ffs sake you do everything for money, you have had probably had enough sperm on/in you to colonise Jupiter. I can't help starting to feel sorry for Trump even despite not liking him, I am starting to see him as a victim of militant feminists, soooo false and relentless. Like Hillary. Must be hard to be the underdog against a perfectly oiled machine

So, it's payment that matters not consent?
Well that will clear up a lot of misunderstandings

[Fragony]

So, it's payment that matters not consent?
Well that will clear up a lot of misunderstandings

It kinda depends on how and why you think of a certain type of women. Yes payment is consent if you ask me. I probably don't have to point out what sort of women flock around him. I don't see it as immoral really to make use of it. Feminists see it as sexist but why really, what's wrong with sexism, women aren't thoughtless victims some are calculating harpies.

Why do people never ask WHY he thinks so lowly of women, I bet he has a good reason, looks like this $$$$$$$$

[Idaho]

Nice Fragony. You've really excelled yourself. Really odious sentiment.

[Idaho]

Admittedly, a first class education and a $14m stake is easier to work with than $65k in college loan debt and a $42k/annum start.

Modern corporate capitalism is a million miles from the story of "hard working man made good". The vast majority of wealth is owned and managed through a web of corporate and legal entities that very few people would understand or recognise.

[Fragony]

Nice Fragony. You've really excelled yourself. Really odious sentiment.

I made myself vulnerable, you wouldn't believe what happened next

internet cliché, I know

You see Idaho, I have been there myself, usually only as protection but in a rare occasion also as an asset. I know how things work there. But it's their job ffs, find another if you want to be a Disney princes,, can't have any parience with the complaints realy

[Husar]

I made myself vulnerable, you wouldn't believe what happened next

internet cliché, I know

[Complains about criticism regarding his opinion]

You see Idaho, I have been there myself, usually only as protection but in a rare occasion also as an asset. I know how things work there. But it's their job ffs, find another if you want to be a Disney princes,, can't have any parience with the complaints realy

[Criticizes thousands of people for their opinion that payment for other services does not make rape okay]



You do know that you sound just as misogynistic as Trump, right?

Did you just say that you worked for a pimp or that you were a condom in a previous life?

[Fragony]

No I only worked as security to beat up asshholes. and sometimes (very rare, having to beat up anyone is also very rare) I was asked to join and gpot payed for doing so yes. Better than having a loan. You also get a free view of the darker sight of things, no matter how nice you are things can go wrong

[Husar]

You also get a free view of the darker sight of things, no matter how nice you are things can go wrong

And yet you seem to think that's perfectly fine and there's no room for improvement.

[Fragony]

And yet you seem to think that's perfectly fine and there's no room for improvement.

cynisism is fine as long as you have a sense of humor

[Husar]

cynisism is fine as long as you have a sense of humor

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ning-your-life

A 2009 study of more than 97,000 women showed that optimistic women had lower rates of coronary heart disease, cancer-related deaths, and mortality. Conversely, women with the most pessimistic and cynical personalities, had higher rates of these diseases and death. When we think of hostility and negativity as life-threatening conditions, it makes the goal of being less cynical all the more crucial.

Cynicism is part of a defensive posture we take to protect ourselves. It's typically triggered when we feel hurt by or angry at something, and instead of dealing with those emotions directly, we allow them to fester and skew our outlook. When we grow cynical toward one thing in our lives, we may slowly start to turn on everything.
[...]
Because cynical and suspicious attitudes create a negative filter through which we observe our surroundings, when we are in this state, we tend to miss out on joys in life. We indulge in an "us versus them" mentality that pins us against a certain person or group. It is easy to distort people and create a caricature of their flaws. When we do this, it's valuable to ask ourselves, "Whose point of view is coming through? Is this how I really feel, or am I overreacting based on old feelings from my past?"

You should really deal with your emotions instead of negating them by being ever more cynical about Clinton. It's for your own good.

[Fragony]

ffs Hussie you just proved my point and any you will make later if you insist

[Kralizec]

You are a pornstar ffs sake you do everything for money, you have had probably had enough sperm on/in you to colonise Jupiter.

Sorry, but Trump deserves all the negative attention with these sexual harrasment accusations. He made Bill Clinton's sexual conduct an important part of his campaign, during a time when everybody already knew he was never a loyal husband himself. Then an audio tape leaks out in which he brags about behaviour which meets the legal definition of sexual assault. He dismisses it as just a joke and denies ever having done anything remotely like that, which is pretty much an invitation to prove him wrong.

[Fragony]

Sorry, but Trump deserves all the negative attention with these sexual harrasment accusations. He made Bill Clinton's sexual conduct an important part of his campaign, during a time when everybody already knew he was never a loyal husband himself. Then an audio tape leaks out in which he brags about behaviour which meets the legal definition of sexual assault. He dismisses it as just a joke and denies ever having done anything remotely like that, which is pretty much an invitation to prove him wrong.

But what if is just foolish bragging, I heard much worse. But that goldmine has never been tappen and it is one. If there is any evidence of legal abstruction I could change my mind, right now it at least looks like opertunism. Why now. Worth asking.

[Husar]

ffs Hussie you just proved my point and any you will make later if you insist

I don't know how that works, but I accept your point about all my future points being proven.

[Fragony]

I don't know how that works, but I accept your point about all my future points being proven.

Hate say it but you are going to die eventually no matter what I say

[Husar]

Hate say it but you are going to die eventually no matter what I say

I'm sure you're fun at parties...

[Fragony]

I'm sure you're fun at parties...

Well yes, less sure about you even going to one though