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QuintusSertorius
06-01-2008, 20:29
Totally augmented and tinkered with through lots of Force Diplomacy, console-added (and depleted) money and selective wars in defense of certain factions, but this is my H/M Romani game in 172BC:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/172CampaignMap.jpg
Fondor_Yards
06-02-2008, 21:27
Heh it's been a busy 20 years. I put the save up in the 1.1 game saves thread.
170 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-05-3002-40-11-71.jpg
160 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0203-44-14-21.jpg
Casse: Nothing new
Averni: Dead
Aedui: Super Dead
Lusitannan: I still don't know how they did that. I've been looking at their armies, they are stacks of celtic and iberian levy troops, and that's it.
Sweboz: Welp, they fell fast didn't they?
Getai: Still Rome's bitch
Romans: Other then their first few attacks with decent armies, they are been strangly unagressive in our war. Took Rome and Capua from them on a whim after taking the islands.
Epeiros: A green Getai
Macedon: The last of the Greek Nations,*Epeiros doesn't count* annoying me with their full stack after stack of thracian, greek,and illyrian coastal levies, so I finished them off. No more pikemen to slaughter, huzza!
Carthage: Sent a few more, actually decent armies with elite and heavy troops, before stopping for most of 170-160. Took their island holdings from them.
Hai: Has continued their foreign policy of "Don't piss off your superpower neighbor that surrounds you on 3 sides" and live for it.
Sarmatians: Wasn't planning on attacking them, but when my war with the Romans broke out, they sided with the Romans. So I went and united my eastern Scythian brothers under my banner.
These last few years have been pretty meh. Both the roman and macedonians didn't give me too much resistance. In the winter of 160, the Romans offered a ceasefire but asked for 92k. I offered them 92k, Capua back, map info, and threatened to attack if they didn't become my protectorate. Funny enough they accepted. So I'm sending my Indian and my Greek army to take Africa from Carthage while my Nomad one watched the Roman boarder in Dacia. I don't know if I'm happy or sad that the Romans took up to Denmark, meaning the Iberians don't have a chance to go any further east. I'll find out when I take the rest of Europe and meet them in Gaul I guess then.
Olaf The Great
06-02-2008, 22:47
Continuation of my Romani game (see upthread)
210bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/Romani210.jpg
204bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/Romani204bc.jpg
I think I'll give this one up now. Fighting two or three battles against the Ptollies per turn is getting dull.
KH are about to die.
Baktria look like they have the upper hand over Pahlava. Probably due to being able to use AS regional barracks and spam Klerouch Phalangitai from them.
Makedon only survived so long due to the cold war of assassins and spies that I waged for 30 years in Asia Minor. Eventually all the Ptolemaic cities had family members and I had to turn the war hot.
A shame the Yellow Fever became so strong so early. I put it down to the sharing of barracks and the high availability of Klerouch Phalangitai accross the region.Baktria shares barracks with Macedon, not AS, but they have the best mines in the game, and access to somewhat better units than AS.
Ptolemaics have that advantage however...
Here's my AI progression from my 1.1 KartHadastim campaign. I'm using 1.5 RTW.exe, no mods, no Force Diplomacy (or giving any financial aid to AI factions myself) and all the bugfixes in Bovi's thread. (I can't remember the difficulty setting...)
https://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5816/karthadast262wu8.jpg
As you can see, the first ten years have passed in peace. I managed to get a peace treaty with Epiros, so I had no enemies. I disbanded most of my army and navy and raised a force to take over Spain. As you can see Arsé has already fallen to my brave soldiers and a puppet leader was installed.
https://img222.imageshack.us/img222/746/karthadast252cz4.jpg
But things didn't stay peaceful. After I had taken Emporion and Syracuse the Romans decided to invade Messana. Because I have these nice people my support, a state of war existed between Rome and me from that day on. As I was not prepared for this move I did not have Lilibeo properly guarded, so I immediately raised a strong army that was going to defeat the Romans soundly. They did very well and even managed to take Rhegion. Meanwhile in Spain, I also managed to grab Sucum Murgi right with a Lusitanian army standing next to it. They were not pleased.
https://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6013/karthadast242cf6.jpg
By now I have taken Tarsos, but keeping it has been a difficult task. The Romans managed to raise a huge army every year and while I keep defeating them, I have to go through the arguous process of shipping my troops back to Kart Hadast for retraining every few years. To keep the defence of my two Italian cities going I have had to raise another army, that can keep the Romans at bay for a year while my main army is retrained. I've also enlisted the help of some 600 Hoplites from Syracuse, which are easier to retrain and they've been of great help. Around 250 BCE I got into a war with the Lusitana, but I've managed to take their capital, so it's going alright. In 245 BCE though, the Ptolemaioi violently broke our alliance by attacking my Libyan settlement. Although this came as a complete surprise and I did lose the city I managed to recapture it a year later. Unfortunately the Ptolemaioi had sold most of its citizens into slavery.
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4192/karthadast232ct1.jpg
The war in Iberia is harsh, but I've managed to keep going. However, I do not have enough money to support armies fighting on three fronts, so I decided to get rid of the Lusitana by taking both their remaining settlements in the same turn. A few years later I sadly lost my Libyan settlement again, which was rather embarrasing, but I did take it back a year later. By now I was getting tired of Rome harrasing me, so I decided to teach them a lesson they would not soon forget. I assembled the finest troops from my Italian armies and went rampaging all the way up to Rome. I enslaved all Roman men, women and children from Rhegion to the very city of Rome itself. First I took Apri and enslaved the population. Because I did not have the manpower to keep the city, I set fire to it, destroying all buildings, making sure it would not soon send troops to fight me again. Then the next year I did the same to Capua and Rome. There is one more large Roman army wandering around in Italy, but I think those are the last Romans I'll see for a while...
XSamatan
06-03-2008, 07:51
@Fondor_Yards:
Holy Shit!!! you are crazy!! do you plan to conquer the hole map?:dizzy2:
btw: Do you have a savegame before the yhuezi arrive??
XSamatan
Fondor_Yards
06-03-2008, 17:55
Heh I think I will, simply to say that I did it once *same reason I did it in my first vanilla campaign.* As for the save, no. The 170 bc save is right after I beat almost all of their armies. The invasion was pretty lame. All that happened was the AI spawn 4 full stacks of HA near the town, and kicked out my garrison. They wouldn't even take the ungarrisoned town, I just let it rebel before taking it back with the army I put up there for the invasion.
Tyrfingr
06-03-2008, 20:05
Folgore, don't you think it's time to conquer the rest of North Africa?
General Appo
06-03-2008, 20:57
Perhaps he´s like me and feels it wrong to take control over regions that there´s no way Carthage could ever have controlled.
Besides, what is there to gain by taking those regions? Gigantic deserts? Let the camels rule them. Dry plains? Let the lions and elephants call themselves king over those.
A few pitiful huts near a small oasis? Let the Numidians fight over that.
Exactly, besides, those provinces are not part of my victory conditions, so there's really no use in wasting soldiers and money trying to take them.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
06-04-2008, 17:50
Perhaps he´s like me and feels it wrong to take control over regions that there´s no way Carthage could ever have controlled.
It doesn't feel really wrong. These province have very attractive mines, that alone is worth the few buggers to take them. The Numidians are too easy to defeat, I concur on that. I had really lots of rebellions in that area for a long time in my own 1.0 Carthage campaign, which I could perfectly roleplay as constant local uprisings and rebellions of the local populace. I had two or three generals who spent twenty years or more just with travelling through Numidia and putting down rebellions, some of these even with nellies...
The Romans controlled that territory and fought hard wars over it, so could have done the Carthies. But I think everyone has to find his own preference when it come to balancing between totally sticking to what really happened in history, and absolutely free roaming. Sometimes I think the EB-team is too much stuck with history (think of Makedonian recruitment options in Seleukid territory which could easily be exactly the same), but that's perhaps only me and not intended as critique.
Tyrfingr
06-04-2008, 18:56
Exactly, besides, those provinces are not part of my victory conditions, so there's really no use in wasting soldiers and money trying to take them.
Well, as you can see here (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/CarthageMap.png), the merchants in white held coastal cities pretty much all over North Africa, so conquering at least the Pillars of Heracles would be appropriate.
Well, I do have a reserve army of 8 units (2 Sacred Band Infantry, 2 Elite Liby-Phoenician Infantry and 4 Liby-Phoenician Infantry) in Kart Hadast, which I only have around because they have so much experience that it would be a waste to disband them. I guess I could recruit some cheap African cavalry and slingers and turn them into a small army. If I do, I'll only take the two coastal provinces though, I'm not interested in the inland provinces.
By the way, I've finally started constucting my 5th level 5 Local MIC in Iberia (228 BCE). In 4 years I'll finally have my Elite African Infantry I've been looking forward to so much. It's about time too, the Romans have just had their Polybian reforms.
Fondor_Yards
06-05-2008, 03:09
Heh things have been busy.
150 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0318-53-47-20.jpg
140 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0402-52-02-14.jpg
130 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0418-45-13-40.jpg
Casse: Nothing new
Lusitannan: Jesus wow. When I saw them dominating the Romans, I decided to sit back and see how big they could get. That was a bad idea.
Sweboz: Made peace with the Lusitannan, just got their reform finally, and hiding in their last towns.
Getai: Almost dead, but actually took a town from the Sweboz.
Romans: Deads!
Epeiros: Some reason the Iberians haven't attacked them yet.
Carthage: Reduced them to Numidia, Sicily, and their Iberian holdings that rebelled back to them. Attacked a few times, and have given up in the last 25 years.
Hai: Started losing to the Sarmatians, now officially my ally.
Sarmatians: After getting pushed up to a single province, they have slowly started taking back their lands from the armenians.
A few turns after my last report, apparently the Iberians and Romans broke their alliance. I apparently didn't see the message, so I was quite surprised when I saw the board for the North Italian cities turn brown. They just steamrolled the fuck out of the Romans, which as a Rome hater made me smile, and as the Saka made me scared. I was looking forward to an epic war with Rome for Europe, but they will do. Kinda funny if you think of it, that all the Saka, the barbaric nomads from the frozen north, are the only real civilized force remaining. I wanted to see how big they could get, so I decided to hold in Dacia and at Rome while that happened. While my men in dacia easily destroyed the massed levy armies they sent, Rome was in trouble. It would be literally sieged 24/7, for years at a time. I was pretty lucky, for whatever reason they would only siege Rome with a single stack at a time, which meant basically no matter what it was I could beat it. When I beat the stack attacking, another would come. I'd get lucky after 5-6 stacks they would forget to send another, or do a 1 turn ceasefire so I could retrain my troops. At first I used Sardinian archers, but when my client rulers died I used saka since I changed to pastorallism. After about 25 years of solid sieging, I figured Rome was going to fall. So I sent a big army of sardinians, broke the siege during my turn, and evacuated everyone to Kart-Hadast. All that could out was the 2 generals, and about 16 tiny units of archers and hastai, that merged into a half strength archer unit and near full strength hastai unit. I put in a tiny garrison of about 8 units, which were able to hold until 128.
I've readied my 3 armies again, and I am about to go on the offensive for once in this war.
Holy crap thats insane! Are you actually going for the whole map?
General Appo
06-05-2008, 12:23
I can only agree with Gaivs, that´s fu*king insane! ThelLuso´s driving you out of Italia? Just holy shit!
Leviathan DarklyCute
06-05-2008, 13:03
Awesome. Do it. Go for the whole map, it would be the most awesome report ever.
Fondor_Yards
06-05-2008, 22:43
118 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0503-05-15-49.jpg
110 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0516-08-13-25.jpg
106 BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0517-23-12-98.jpg
Casse: Dead
Lusitannan: Fuck these guys, seriously, bleh
Sweboz: Made peace with the Iberians, attacked the turn we boarded. How could they think that was a good idea, I'll never know.
Getai: Keep sending stupid little armies to siege my towns, killed them off.
Epeiros: Yea I killed them.
Carthage: Took Sicily from them, then their Spanish holdings. Hunting them down in Numidia after a while.
Hai: Was pushed back to Armenia, even lost Kotais, but came back and took a few from me, and in the middle of the war decided to attack me around 108 BC. Yea, that worked out perfectly for them. Was already sending armies towards their cities anyways, but it's the principle of the thing.
Sarmatians: Start kicking the Armenian's ass all around the place, then starting losing again. Wins the medal for the last faction killed.
God dam was that a freaking pain in the ass. I was literally wading neck deep through all the Lusitannan's shit full stacks. First turn my nomad army spends in their land, has to fight off 7 full stacks. Yea like I was going to do that BS. So I formed a few other armies, and sent them to hit Gaul and Iberia, where they had zero defenses, unlike central europe and it's hundreds. By the time I had taken their lands, most cities had been drained pretty badly by the pure numbers. They were constantly pulling the number of stacks from their ass like you see in the 150 BC SS.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/FondorYards/EB/RomeTW2008-06-0517-23-16-73-1.jpg
Yes that's 1176 total battles. Maybe 150 were naval battles, if I'm lucky. I really don't recommend doing that unless your Rome or can/will mod for you own quasi reforms.
General Appo
06-05-2008, 22:49
Holy crapshit! From 118 to 110 you took all that? Fu*king incredible.
Leviathan DarklyCute
06-05-2008, 22:58
Best report ever. Amazing.
I shat a wall of bricks.
Excellent job :smile:
Fondor_Yards
06-05-2008, 23:05
Heh considering I had about 10 full stacks in Germany, Gaul, Brition, and the Baltics by the time I beat the Germans/Britons/Getai/Iberians, I'd like to hope so. Not counting the armies I sent against Armenia, which where mostly just the large garrisons in the boarder towns. It really wasn't much a fight, more mass slaughters then anything.They had nothing that could counter my better archers, which would kill 200-300 a piece, or my much better infantry, thats they couldn't touch, much less my cataphracts. Using my cataphract archers felt like cheating they were so effective versus them. I'd always assault their towns the 2nd turn of the seige instead of waiting. Plus a lot of towns in general had wod walls still *elephants!* and in germany/east europe didn't have walls at all, which means instant town taking.
Yes that's 1176 total battles.
Actually, that's 1185. Or are we conveniently overlooking those you lost?
Oh my. Imagine being part of the 'Yuezhi Invasion', that arrived around this time. Yep, yer screwed.
Fondor_Yards
06-06-2008, 00:43
Losses? I don't follow you, I don't lose battles.
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Yea.....:quiet:
12 years, all that!!!!!!!!
:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
Maion Maroneios
06-06-2008, 14:49
@Fondor Yards: Wow man!
@Tellos Athenaios: Nice looking campaign, but why don't you unit the British isles?
The Persian Cataphract
06-07-2008, 01:18
Just to conveniently piss on your parade Fondor, I could conquer the whole map in less than years (40 turns), using money cheat and diplomats :laugh4:
On a serious note, holy fucking shit... You must have a tremendous patience, and a serious lack of social life, because you sir deserve a medal. By 106 BCE, with 120 years left (480 turns) until the mod's time-frame reaches its end, you just crushed all the competition. Happy micro-managing :smash:
Tellos Athenaios
06-07-2008, 02:43
@Fondor Yards: Wow man!
@Tellos Athenaios: Nice looking campaign, but why don't you unit the British isles?
That has both an early and a mid (I am not in late-game stage yet) game reason:
Early game:
I went to the mainland because those provinces aren't as strongly guarded by Eleutheroi. Consequence: should the Sweboz decide to have a go at you --> you are dead in the water. Should the Aedui get too agressive too early --> you're screwed too.
But in case you can manage to maintain good relations with the Sweboz & Aedui as long as you need to; you can exploit these regions as a very viable & resilient powerbase. Milnaht? Duguntiz? Iosatae? Mercs in abundance? Belgae Spearmen (forgot how to spell them) ? Hell yeah!
The Eleutheroi & Sweboz cavalry is an easy meal for your generals; and you can actually risk a charge or two in the enemy ranks without getting slaughtered right away. The units I mention are, with a little strategy & tactics a truly powerful & yet very cheap force. Living off trade + sacking Eleutheroi settlements got me going. As a matter of fact, I could exploit the fact that the Sweboz (after a diplomat offered it to them + tribute)/Aedui/Arverni were both allies & targeting the same general region (Arctaunon, Vindelcoppidos, Batasporios) to take them with little losses. (I took Arctaunon without losing a single man on my side...)
However by that time the Eleutheroi on the other side of the sea are still very much alive and kicking: full stacks in *every* town surrounding me + highly developped civic & mic structures... And Eleutheroi half-stacks roaming the boarders isn't happy conquering either, considering I can't afford a full stack just for the explicit purpose of mopping them up -- at least not without seriously weakening my mainland strategic positions. Also the fact I only have a navy ferry since what 2 or 3 turns now didn't make it much easier, eh?
Mid game:
But there's more: the Sweboz intervened, and boy they pack some serious manpower. OK, granted nothing able to actually stand up against my Milnaht + Iosatae + Belgae Spearmen + General; and little capable of dispatching the mercs thrown in for additional numbers... Still, enough to keep my full military occupied for about 6 or 7 years now? (The war is over, the Sweboz are dead now, btw.)
But there also was a much more devious part to it:
a) The Eleutheroi are of my own culture. That means: free civic development, if I but wait till I take those towns!
b) The Eleutheroi are stupid like other AI: once their family members die the movement restrictions vanish. By 237 BC; that's not a long way to go anymore (considering most of them are by now in their end 50's or mid 60's). So that means the cities are much easier targets (just one unit) after those rulers are gone. After that I still have to wade through the masses of Briton Midlander Heroes, Spearmen, Axemen, Skirmishers, Gaeroas, and what not... But at least I'll have the towns quickly.
Last game-reason: also upgraded towns with lotsa population are worth more and will be rich targets. Also these will contribute much more significantly to reaching the last Celtic reforms (which require x large cities :sweatdrop:) if I let them grow. And quite a few of them are bordering that size already... That's a whole lot different from, say, the Germanic forests which after continuous warfare are largely inhabited by populations not exceeding 1500 people. And most of my other settlements are less than 6000 as well. I guess I have only 3 cities which are actually inhabited by more than 6000 people; though I have many of such Cities occupied. (Just that the people are no more there...)
Finally there's a purely practical reason: yes I have only 1 year ago embarked on an assault against the Dummones. But a CTD prevents me from ending the one turn before the battle...
And without a war (the war against the Sweboz managed to halt my civic developments considerably) I can make much more money. Which I'll need later on as the Arverni are getting powerful, and the Romani are way too filthy rich and way too overly ambitious to be content with just Italy.
Casse Campaign
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3386/rometwexe1nn9.jpg
Romans: Doing fine, they're going after the gaul territories. They have besieged Rhegion a couple of times, but they have n't been able to take it yet.
Lusotannan: After taking their first 3 provinces they have come to a sudden stop.
Arverni: They were doing fine until I started conquering the mainland
Aedui: They were doing a little bit better than the Arverni, but after I started conquering their provinces they slowly fell into a decline. Only one province left, Mediolanum, which the romans don't want to have I think :dizzy2:
Sweboz: After taking their current provinces they stopped, after I've defeated the Arverni and Aedui they are my next victim.
Getai: They we're doing a nice job, until the Mak's came around
Epeiros: Slaughtered by the Mak's in 4 years time...
KH: Athenai being besieged, they will soon lose their provinces in Greece, but they still have Rhodes and the province above.
Makedonia: They have taken absolute control over the Greek peninsula.
Pontos: Stuck at their first province.
Seleukids: Slooowly losing their provinces to the Ptolies
Hayasdan: Doing nicely, 'till the Sauro's started progressing.
Ptolemaioi: See the Sele's
Sab´yn: Stopped conquering, but have been the richest faction multiple times.
Pahlava: After splitting baktria in two, they have been on a decline and slowly losing provinces to the Sele's
Baktria: They were doing great, until they were split in half by the Pahlava's and the Sele's.
Saka-Rauka: Standard Saka expansion I think.
Sauromatae: After taking a couple of provines, they seem to have lost their warlust.
Carthage: Sloooowly taking the Iberian peninsula and the north african provinces.
Sauromatae are doing better than usual me thinks.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
06-08-2008, 18:24
Cool AI progression, grwn.:smiley:
Olaf The Great
06-09-2008, 04:30
I have 2 active campaigns and I'll show you people the expansions once I get home but they both have unusual expansions, especially my Sabean one, and one BIG difference in my Baktrian one.
BTW I need to give out my save game for the Saba one, as theres some horrible CTD with the people that come after the Arverni(Romans?)
Aaldaemon
06-10-2008, 12:29
Looking at grwn's map I'm more convinced than ever that Ptolies need something done about them... Unless you have a say in the region, it seems to me they're pretty much always pushing the Seleucids back... :oops:
QuintusSertorius
06-10-2008, 12:42
If you're willing to take on the job, it's certainly possible. With much manipulation, this is my Romani game in 149BC (no one dead yet):
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/149map.jpg
The Persian Cataphract
06-10-2008, 13:01
That looks very nice; Besides manipulating the Ptolies, did you mayhap manipulate the Pahlava? Because as far as I'm concerned by the 140's, that looks quite spot on, almost as if it was ripped completely out of the description of Mithradates' conquests. It surprised me that Saba reached as far as Characene (A possession which I think was more of Parthian interest, but it creates some very interesting scenarios nonetheless). Armenians, Pontus, Graeco-Bactrians, Sarmatians and Sacae all look excellent :2thumbsup:
The displacement of Epeiros is very surprising, and the completely apeshit Lusitanians are ripping up North Africa. Saba looks extremely strong with their lucrative coastal positions and the possessions in Africa. The Seleucids are in truth a former shadow of themselves.
QuintusSertorius
06-10-2008, 14:22
I manipulated almost everyone to suit what I was guessing was a historical projection of where they should be. I use every tool at my disposal; tinkering with treasuries, moving armies, spawning units and Force Diplomacy, as well as the occasional war.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/149map.jpg
In summary (At 149BC):
Casse: Gave them the Belgae provinces in northern Gaul once they'd united all of Britain, which also conveniently stopped Sweboz incursions across the Rhine. Seems they don't want to war with those crazy Britons. I took southern Ireland off them recently to mimic the Iberian migration.
Aedui: Now my allies, for a time I was doing all in my power to prevent them destroying the Arverni. About 40 years ago, when I was at war with both when re-taking Cisalpine Gaul (which I'd given away to them to simulate it's revolt with the coming of my "Hannibal") they actually declared a ceasefire with each other, and have been static ever since. I've been giving them former Getic lands to curtail the activities of the Dacians. I've also been repeatedly restoring them in Celtiberia, which the Lusotanii repeatedly try to take. Keep having to intervene to stop them kicking the Casse out of Gaul.
Arverni: Again they're at peace with the Aedui and ignoring the Casse. Their main focus is the Sweboz. Gave them Galatia early on in the game and they've kept hold of it. Not really doing much besides, seem to be consilidating the new lands I've given them.
Sweboz: Gone quiet now the Casse are barring their path across the Rhine, although there's low-level fighting with the Arverni in their shared border. I saw low-level, both have full stacks bashing each other. Plus the "central European defense" stops them harassing my northern border or expanding too far.
Sauromatae:Struggled in the early game, especially against the ever-northering Hai. Been receiving regular drafts of console-money and help to prevent the Hai getting a foothold in the steppes. Kicked the Greeks out of the Chersonesus all by themselves. Recently gone to war with the Saka.
Saka: Seemed to be steamrollering Baktria initially, then my aid tipped it too far in the other direction. I recently gave them two of the northern-most Parthian provinces to cut down the territory and finances of the latter. There was a brief war when they rebelled, but it's all calm now. They're even at peace with Baktria, though I think that's only temporary.
Getai: They were huge 50 years ago, until I got annoyed with them repeatedly trying to take Illyria off me, and I went on a gifting spree. I'd conquer their settlements and give them to other factions. Thus I've got a nice Aedui buffer between Illyria and them, and now they're being closed off from Makedonia as well. Although I recently gave them Bithynia when I took it off Makedonia. The rebellion of the Bastarnae lands stopped their war with the Sauromatae, and expansion into the steppe.
Lusotanii: I'm currently at war with them, though it's going to be a long, slow campaign. I'm nibbling away at them, though I did give them southern Ireland which prompted a blitz taking the north and Scotland before I FD'd them back to the Casse. Things are quiet there now. They keep going to war with the Aedui over Celtiberia, which I give back to the Aedui not long after they take it, or else boost up Numantia's garrison to stop them taking it at all.
Hayasdan: I've spent most of the game trying to stop them becoming rulers of the steppe, and I've now resorted to simply draining their treasury every turn to deprive them of the resources, along with putting their full stacks on Krete. I managed after a long process to make them go to war with the Seleukids, which has pulled some of their attention south, instead of north.
Pontos: Another one I've been restraining, they also have armies on Krete. Early in the game they started rolling across Thracia, which I put a stop to. Again I'm having to keep their treasury empty to contain them. When I warred with the Seleukids, their fortunes rebounded quite a bit, prompting a new round of control.
Baktria: After some initial support, I've spent most of the game slowing them down once they'd taken out all the rebel lands around them.
Pahlava: I initially slowed them down a lot when they seemed ready to wipe out the Seleukids in a matter of years, then recently, since about 200 I've been aiding their growth. Had to push them back when they've come too far, too fast, and they've been having financial difficulties to slow them down. They were too slow to grab Charax, the Saba got that all on their own. I've seen maps of Parthia in 200BC and later, so I'm roughly trying to match that.
Makedonia: I'm at war with them, they're heading somewhere rather final. Been helping them against a rampant Koinon Hellenon for a long time, after my war with the Seleukids gave them provinces in Asia Minor. They're presently losing those as I fight them on two fronts - Roman army in Thessaly and my "Asian" armies in Anatolia. They'll eventually be reduced to only holding Krete, which they'll become by default.
Koinon Hellenon: Been almost permanently acting to stop them steamrollering Makedonia, gave them provinces in Asia Minor where they'll become a generic "Asiatic Greek" faction for a time, before I create Asia province proper. Eventual plan is they'll just hold Rhodes.
Epeiros: At the opening of the game, they nearly destroyed Makedonia. I halted that right away, then they were inactive for the better part of 100 years. Literally did nothing at all. Then I decided to migrate them to Kyrenaia rather than destroy them in 167BC when I plundered Epirus after my Third Macedonian War (a kind of nature reserve!). Now having to do a little managing because they keep trying to take Lepki.
Seleukids: Been supporting through most of the game, because they folded like a house of cards under attack from just about everyone. Had to give them serious boosts to make them an actual contender when I fought them in 192-188. Then I've been presiding over a steady decline in their power and influence. They're down to a hub of seven provinces, but holding out. Largely because I've been hamstringing their numerous attackers.
Qarthadast: Have suffered at my hands both through wars (I've just started the war that will end them), and me giving Saba Mauretania and Gaetulia. Been at constant war with the Saba while trying to unite northern Africa. They're going to be the first faction I'll actually destroy (because I can't think of a sensible role for them acting as another faction).
Ptolemaic Egypt: Been getting the nerf from me since the beginning to prevent them rolling up the Seleukids. I neutered the Yellow Death rather effectively, especially through supporting the Saba in Ethiopia/Kush, and preventing them getting Kyrene. I've also provided a lot of support to the Seleukids to ensure they didn't lose the war in Syria. I still think they've got a while before they wind down their vast treasury and stop being so aggressive.
Saba: Been a major recipient of help from me since the beginning, especially when I decided to make them into Mauretania (it's them, not the Lusotanii in north Africa). They're my allies and have been consistently at war with the Ptolemies and Qarthadast. Recently added the Seleukids to the list.
Romani: Me. I've been keeping myself to largely historical expansion, and even major wars ("barbarian" wars aside) for the most part, with one exception. I took Massalia and Pergamon in 200, and they've had client rulers and entirely native armies since. Pergamon has two full stacks of Greek troops, with Greek mercenary generals,a long with a full garrison in the city itself. They've been fighting KH in Anatolia a fair amount. I'm not going to expand there until after it becomes a Roman province in 133BC. Then I'll use their armies to take a few settlements and fill in the vaccuum when Rhodes becomes the sole KH holding.
Irishmafia2020
06-11-2008, 02:32
Just for the record, in my current Baktrian Campaign, the Ptolomies were the first faction to be destroyed (by Selucids). I even tried to save them, but to no avail....
By the way, Quintus, why did you give Byzantion to the Aedui?
QuintusSertorius
06-11-2008, 15:03
By the way, Quintus, why did you give Byzantion to the Aedui?
I figured for the Thracian, Gallic and Gallo-Thracian tribes there, it made sense. Obviously not, given how fast it revolted.
schlappi
06-11-2008, 15:36
Look what Pontos did in my current KH campaign. 233 BC
https://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2524/clipboard02to4.th.jpg (https://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clipboard02to4.jpg)
I am allied to Pontos, we never had a conflict and i did not trade regions.
Though, 10 years after the screen was taken, i threatened Pontos to attack them if they did not turn over Byzantinum and Olbia and they did (for 30.000 mnai).
Mithridates VI here we go again!
Tyrfingr
06-15-2008, 09:36
Pontos campaign, Alex.exe, VH/M, 252BC
https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4269/pntoser6.jpg
Leviathan DarklyCute
06-15-2008, 17:27
Pontos campaign, Alex.exe, VH/M, 252BC
https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4269/pntoser6.jpg
I have a suggestion for you: How about you try conquering the territories of the Byzantine empire at it's height using Pontos? I always thought it would be an awesome challenge to achieve.
Tyrfingr
06-15-2008, 17:31
I'm going for something like that actually :)
Leviathan DarklyCute
06-15-2008, 17:38
I'm going for something like that actually :)
Good luck!:scholar: I hope to see your report! :)
Swordmaster
06-15-2008, 23:38
http://totalwar.persiangig.ir/image/AI-Factiona-Casse-EB/RomeTW%202008-05-06%2013-27-23-82%20copy.jpg
Ptolemaioi in the Baltic? Spare me!
QuintusSertorius
06-16-2008, 00:52
My Romani campaign, 139BC:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/139CampaignMap.jpg
Bit of a war going on in Cyrenaia with the Ptolemies. Otherwise things are relatively stable. Carthago delenda est - I've let a lot of their old territories, and even those I'd given to Saba go rebel.
232 BC
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/AI%20Progression/232BCMakedonia.jpg
222 BC.
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/AI%20Progression/222BC.jpg
Makedonia campaign. FD activated, BI.exe
212 BC
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/212BC.jpg
202 BC
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/202BC.jpg
Highlights:
Romani: Awesome. Actually, they were a bit too fast in their expansion, so I gave Singidunum, Ak-Ink and Naissos to the Getai. Still involved in a very hard struggle with the Epeirotai.
Epeiros: Man, oh man, they just deny to die. They have conquered Sicilia, as you can see, and still cling on to Taras and Kapua, while still having the power to invade Corsica and Sardinia numerous times, along with Arpi and Rhegion. They also field an interesting army, mostly levy hoplites and phalangites with Southern Italian support.
Kart-Hadast: Has been kicked out of Iberia by the Lusotannan (scary faction). Since then, they've been a bit sleepy, though as you can see in 212, they launched a quite succesfull (but temporary) invasion of Egypt.
Lusotannan: -shiver- These guys have killed the Arverni and are marching up to Darioritum and Cenabum, the last remaining provinces of the Aedui. I expect them to die quite soon. They also took the Karthadastim holdings in Iberia (securing their economy even further)
Arverni: Dead. Actually, their death was quite unlucky. They were doing really well against the Aedui, after seemingly losing the first war, and then invaded Iberia. Alas, they foolishly attacked Numantia (which they did take over), but due to that, they were at war with the Luso's. The Luso's quickly took Pallantia, Vellika and Numantia, then took (and lost shortly thereafter) Emporion. Finally, they marched into Gallia, slaughtering everything in their path.
Aedui: Dying. Squashed between a Rain 'o Purple and Brown death.
Sweboz: Heroes still. They were in a very long war with the Arverni and Aedui, and have taken lot's of provinces. They are the masters of the Alps and field really strong armies. Still, they are in a very long alliance with the Romani. I think that the only thing that could potentially halt the insane Luso's are the combined armies of the Sweboz and Romani. Almost like an alternate World War 2.
Getai: After I gifted them the Thracian and Balkan provinces they have been bolstering their offensive towards the Sauromatae. They have been taking a few provinces off them, nothing major, but it still looks pretty cool.
Sauromatae: Still losing a two-front war against the Hayasdan of the Steppes and the Getai. I took the heartlands of the Hay, so we'll see how they'll fare without the mining income. If they should lose, and the Pahlava keep on conquering Seleucid provinces, I was thinking of FD-ing the old homeland steppe provinces of the Pahlava and gifting them to the Sauromatae.
Hayasdan: Huh, even though I kicked them out of their homeland provinces (just took Mtskheta, 199 BC) they aren't losing the war against the Sauromatae yet. Perhaps later on.
Pahlava: Three cheers for the mighty Pärni. I believe this expansion will please QuintusSertorius and the Persian Cataphract (especially when I update again). They are ROCKING at the moment. They actually had a ceasefire with the Seleucids till about 20 years ago, when the city of Patala revolted to the Pahlava. Then they started conquering from the cities of Hekatompylos, Asaak, Zadrakata and Phraaspa. They just recently took Gabai (not seen here) and I believe they won't stop conquering until the Seleucids are but a footnote in history. I'm also really looking forward to fighting a reborn Persian empire (a bit like Alexander did).
Baktria: Faring kinda okay, nothing really serious. Also declared war on the Seleucids, though faring less well than their Pahlava friends.
Saka-Rauka: Nothing to see here, just passing by. Though their war with the Baktrians has been raging on for nearly a hundred years, nobody really seems to win.
Seleucids: Doesn't really need explaining. Even though they lost a lot of provinces to me and the Pahlava they have been fighting the Ptolemaioi in Syria without really losing. They just kept clinging on and even reconquered Antiocheia (which was a perfect time for me to capture it myself, heh.)
Ptolemaioi: Not really yellow-deathish this campaign. I just invaded Egypt, so they will probably be reduced to Meroë in no time.
Saba: Really casual relaxed expansion in Arabia. They are the Jamaicans of Eurasia. Just chillin' out, man.
The Persian Cataphract
06-16-2008, 16:41
It looks like the Pahlava are finally getting their due in EB, circumventing the poor performance otherwise given in Vanilla. It's very satisfactory. Especially the direction of their expansion; First Parthia proper, then Hyrcania, and then Medea, and then a bloom over all directions.
Without the technical stuff none of this would have been possible, so here's to them :medievalcheers:
I agree. Also the script that makes them attack Asaak on the first turn is very helpful. I'm just sorry I'm standing in their way for Susiana and Babylonia.
Swordmaster
06-16-2008, 17:51
[B]Makedonia campaign. FD activated, BI.exe
What's FD? Does it have to do with BI?
Swordmaster
06-16-2008, 21:31
Forced Diplomacy
:idea2:
QuintusSertorius
06-16-2008, 21:44
:idea2:
A necessity for anything remotely resembling sensible diplomacy in the game.
Swordmaster
06-16-2008, 21:57
A necessity for anything remotely resembling sensible diplomacy in the game.
Depends on your playing style, of course. I like to use it to a moderate extent, and only in some campaigns. In a historical Roman campaign, it is quite necessary, indeed, for it makes no sense to expand historically without actually fighting the historically right (or approximate) enemies.
I made the experience that for a reason unknown to me the diplomacy of the AI is far more reasonible on "Hard" difficulty than on "Very Hard". I play with all the 1.1 fixes and the "Win Conditions"-Mod with RomeTW-BI.exe
If they conclude alliances, they actually keep them for quite a long time even if direct neighbours, they accept ceasefires when their border provinces are conquered and they are obviously on the losing point, that's something I thought impossible up to now. Of course there still occur some impacts of madness on the AI, but it is very low...
For example I, playing as Casse, were allied with the Arverni and the Aedui, as time passed on it came to a super alliance, SPQR, Aedui, Arverni and me were all allied with each other. When I had captured almost all Eleutheroi settlements in Gaul and Spain, the SPQR opened a full scale war on all frontiers on me after about 6 years of peaceful coexistence with a long common border, the Arverni kept their Alliance with the SPQR while the Aedui kept theirs with mine and even started war upon them when I threatened them a bit...perhaps this was all just coincidence, but it worked really well and especially the long-term-lasting part was astonishing.
I try to use FD only if absolutely necessary, if the AI sometimes completely freaks out and act completely out of reason, it always resembles a bit of cheating in my eyes....makes a victory/loss a bit hollow...:shame:
Tyrfingr
06-20-2008, 01:54
Pontos campaign, Alex.exe, VH/M
Previous update (252BC) here: https://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4269/pntoser6.jpg
230BC:
https://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6733/rometwalx20080620023333ge7.jpg
The quest for recreating the Byzantine Empire is well under it's way, though I'm admitting that I have expanded alittle too far to the east. Just like in my previous games, the AS is incredibly strong, and the Ptolies are ridicously weak. For the moment I'm in the finishing steps of creating a Galatian Army (complete with a celtic general) to send westwards.
The General
06-20-2008, 09:57
Cool progress. (Awfully nice how Pontos' colour is violet, reminds me of the good ol' MTW days... [and the indestructible kataphraktoi...])
And, hrmh, what era Byzantine empire you going for? Pre- or post-arab invasions?
After the arab invasions, the empire did stretch to Armenia too, under Basil II Boulgaroktonos's rule:
Two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationByzantineEmpire_1025.PNG) maps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_Byzantine_Empire_1025-en.svg) here.
Or do you intent to eventually follow Justinian's path with yer Pontos?
Tyrfingr
06-20-2008, 12:15
Cool progress. (Awfully nice how Pontos' colour is violet, reminds me of the good ol' MTW days... [and the indestructible kataphraktoi...])
And, hrmh, what era Byzantine empire you going for? Pre- or post-arab invasions?
After the arab invasions, the empire did stretch to Armenia too, under Basil II Boulgaroktonos's rule:
Two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationByzantineEmpire_1025.PNG) maps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Map_Byzantine_Empire_1025-en.svg) here.
Or do you intent to eventually follow Justinian's path with yer Pontos?
For starters, I'm going for the Byzantine Empire of Basil II, but if I still find the campaign enjoyable I'll proably go for Justinian's empire as well, which is highly possible.
QuintusSertorius
06-20-2008, 21:17
257BC in my M/M rtw.exe Epeiros-as-Pergamon game:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game/257Campaignmap.jpg
Heavily tailored as always, I've been giving the Rebel faction about 400k a turn to slow everyone down. Also boosting rebel garrisons here and there when under threat. The Romans are the worst for blitzing, currently stopping them going north into Gaul 200 years early.
A close up on my sphere of influence is thus:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game/257BC.jpg
Irishmafia2020
06-20-2008, 22:18
@ QS
You appear to have stabilized Aegean powers well enough, but it looks like the Ptolemies have captured Antioch which does not bode well for the AS, or you for that matter...
QuintusSertorius
06-20-2008, 22:45
@ QS
You appear to have stabilized Aegean powers well enough, but it looks like the Ptolemies have captured Antioch which does not bode well for the AS, or you for that matter...
True enough, I may have to start transporting AS stacks from the east to try and win Syria back. Especially since I'm just about to take Sardis and it's rich mines off them.
Perhaps it's the right time for me to snatch Cyprus, and all the vast wealth that brings to Egypt.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
06-21-2008, 02:41
Makedonian campaign, RTW.exe, EB 1.1, H/M
262BC
https://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6186/makedoniendieweltimjahroa8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
252BC
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1862/makedoniendieweltimjahrba9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Fish-got-a-Sniper
06-21-2008, 13:16
What I usually do when Rome heads north to early is use FD and move_character on a diplomat to gift the provinces to either the Adeui, Averni, or the Casse.
Swordmaster
06-21-2008, 13:35
Makedonian campaign, RTW.exe, EB 1.1, H/M
252BC
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1862/makedoniendieweltimjahrba9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Why aren't the Arverni ever moving in my games? They seem to lose Viennos around 255 and then stagnate.
QuintusSertorius
06-21-2008, 13:54
252BC in my Pergamon game (note I'm now purple, not green):
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game/252CampaignMpa.jpg
I recently "helped" the Romans take Alalia and Messana, courtesy of Force Diplomacy and a raid with move_character. Hoping that'll pull them into Sicily rather than keep trying to take Gaul.
Hai are doing little, Pontos the same. Both have tried a few times to take rebel settlements near them, then given up. Makedonia are getting pasted in Greece, just lost Chalkis. I bribed a Greek army to join me, which should hopefully weaken them a bit.
Taking Kypros seems to have weakened the Ptolemies a little, but they're still broadly holding in Syria.
Otherwise everyone's progress is nice and slow, courtesy of all the money I'm pumping into the Eleutheroi, plus selective spawning of units in their garrisons.
QuintusSertorius
06-25-2008, 12:53
[Old game, stuff removed]
burn_again
06-26-2008, 02:19
Arche Seleukeia 63BC:
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/4/6/25/t_as63BCm_0763e3d.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/6/25/f_as63BCm_0763e3d.jpg&srv=img34)
I have to note that I haven't done much after 100 BC. I'm at war with Carthage. Saka, Sauromatae and Saba are too weak to attack me. Getai, Sweboz and Epeiros are protectorates of Rome.
I just keep that campaign in case I want to fight some marian legions.
Baktria 174BC:
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/25/t_baktria174m_a48e754.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/6/25/f_baktria174m_a48e754.jpg&srv=img29)
Note the Lusotanni and Carthage. I've played this campaign in a rather defensive manner since I always loose interest in Baktria after expanding too far westward. Exactly this is what happend shortly after I took the pic...
The Lusotanni have gone totally amok in this one. They have even taken Korsika from Carthage but lost it due to rebellion. Later on they destroyed Sweboz and pushed Epeiros back into Greece. AS is also still very active, they destroyed Pontos and Makedonia shortly after this pic was taken. BTW, Makedonia had conquered Krete after being reduced to Mytilene and Pergamon.
PS: both campaigns are VH/M, EB 1.1 on RTW.exe
Spizania
06-26-2008, 12:22
https://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/campaign266BC.png
The Pahlavan invasion appears to have stalled, since they keep seiging my surrounding perimeter of towns and then withdraw, most of which will soon have or already have stone walls, which makes it amusing when they try to attack it with a unit of foot archers and two of HA :2thumbsup: although I have yet to muster the resources to take anything back.
Bactria hasnt come after me yet, they have a pair of half stacks wandering around my frontier provinces killing rebels for me :inquisitive: which is keeping trade in the region from completely collapsing, I have also determined that I will hold Antiochea-Margaine at all costs! Even though the Saka Rauka and Pahlavans are taking turns at coming after it. And the only reason it hasnt revolted is i moved my Capital to Seleukiea.
Im also having a bunch of Man of the Hours, generating characters which are currently slowly laying lines of watchtowers and forts along the roads that run East-West to try and keep them open against brigand stacks.
Otherwise the only other point of interest at this stage is what the hell is going on in Greece, we may be looking at a massive war between Epeirus and Macedon at some point, cause Ive never seen those settlements fall to Macedon ever in EB (I have never played a Macedon Campaign, I like Greeks too much)
I also agree that something may have to be done about the Ptolemaics, unless you beat them down by hand they overwhelm the Seleucids and sometimes the Saka in what seems rather reminiscent of the vanilla yellow tide. Also for some reaosn they have yet to attempt to retake Ioudea, they instead sent a full stack to garrison Petra, when it didnt even have any walls.
I want whatever the Ptolemaic AI is smoking :egypt:
burn_again: Damn, Lusitania is the new Death in EB1.1!
burn_again
06-26-2008, 15:58
burn_again: Damn, Lusitania is the new Death in EB1.1!
From what I see in other campaigns I'd say their chances of becoming a superpower are much better in 1.1. This case is a bit extreme. Rome had a somewhat overstretched empire. They focussed on fighting the scripted stacks while Carthage took Italy from them and the Lusotanni took Gaul from them. Since the Lusotanni were at war with both they conquered everything up to Sicily. Then they went crazy and attacked the Sweboz and Epeiros.
QuintusSertorius
06-28-2008, 15:12
M/M Epeiros-as-Pergamon game with rtw.exe and not as much cheating as I usually use to muck around with the AI factions. I've changed my colour to Royal Blue and the Ptolemies to gold so they're easier to distinguish from Seleukid silver. I did a proper migration in the first year.
It's in a five-year progress stylee.
272BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/272cm.jpg
Immediately after my migration, not much else has changed. Unlike in the other game, I didn't help Roma by giving them Taras, just made it rebel.
267BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/267cm.jpg
I took Nikaia, Rome blitzed north and south.
262BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/262cm.jpg
Saka, Pontos, Hayasdan on the move. I take Halikarnassos.
257BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/257cm.jpg
After causing Sardis to revolt, I grab it. Also take Byzantion.
252BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/252cm.jpg
I take Tylis.
247BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/247cm.jpg
I take Mytilene, which now gives me naval yards to build ships. Krete is next.
242BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/242cm.jpg
I took Krete. Galatia was taken by the Seleukids, then rebelled to the Aedui. I gave the Casse Bratosporios to create a distinctly different "Belgae" nation.
QuintusSertorius
07-01-2008, 00:07
Continuing with my Pergamon game
237BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/237cm.jpg
I took Rhodos. Sauromatae, Baktria and Pahlava expand. Sweboz continue inexorably on. Makedonia manage to take Epirus, and KH Aitolia. Romans kick Qarthadast out of Sicily.
232BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/232cm.jpg
Seleukids expand, most of Gaul now with one faction or other. I gave Aedui Naissos and Singidunum. Casse now have just Wales and Ireland to complete the union of the UK.
Tyrfingr
07-05-2008, 01:50
Attempt as Pontos to recreate the Byzantine Empire of Basil II, 217BC
https://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4188/pontos217bcsd2.jpg
* Arche Seleukeia Satrapy of Dayuan
** Bastarnoladam (Sweboz ally)
*** Sequallra (Arverni ally)
Things are going pretty well in my attempt to recreate Basil II's byzantine empire. In the west, I have invaded the Greek Peninsula and have reduced Makedonia to a puny single-province state based on Thermon. They do however have two fully stacked armies, and I need to replenish mine for the final assault. Waged a triple war against Makedonia, KH and Epeiros at the same time, and as you can see, I have killed of the greeks and are just about to do the same with Makedonia. In the northwest, I have established good relations with the getai, which they better maintain. Don't make me do to Getai what Basil II did to the Bulgars.
In the east, I have conquer all the eastern provinces of the Byzantine Empire, all but Sidon from the Arche Ptolemaioi, but since the diplomatic status between us is neutral, it will have to wait. I'm going to conquer Edessa, although the Byzantines just held it a couple of years.
QuintusSertorius
07-05-2008, 12:14
Continuing the progression in my Epeiros-as-Pergamon game. A fair bit of FD in the later one, much less so the earlier.
227BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/227cm.jpg
Spain bounce back, the Aedui recover a little, I take Ipsos.
222BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/222cm.jpg
Carthage get to work in Spain, Rome start branching out along the coast. I take Kallatis and Chersonesos.
214BC
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Kiero/EB%20screenshots/Pergamon%20Game%20II/Campaign%20Maps/214cm.jpg
Much FD involved here in causing the Second Punic War and similating a "Hannibal" invading Italy and causing Capua to defect and Cisalpine Gaul to revolt. Baktria and Pahlava expand at the expense of the Seleukids, though the latter with some help (not Gandhara though, that was a revolt). The AI took Arpi all by itself. I took Pantikapaion.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
07-05-2008, 21:13
Attempt as Pontos to recreate the Byzantine Empire of Basil II, 217BC
https://img395.imageshack.us/img395/4188/pontos217bcsd2.jpg
May I ask what map you have used?
I think the opposite of ulterior is citerior. The opposite of inferior is superior.
Swordmaster
07-05-2008, 21:48
May I ask what map you have used?
I think the opposite of ulterior is citerior. The opposite of inferior is superior.
Looks like it's MAP_REGIONS.tga he coloured.
Tyrfingr
07-06-2008, 13:43
May I ask what map you have used?
I think the opposite of ulterior is citerior. The opposite of inferior is superior.
My bad, I mixed those two together...
Looks like it's MAP_REGIONS.tga he coloured.
That's right!
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
07-06-2008, 19:01
Thx for the info.
Baktria 240
https://i25.tinypic.com/m8mypf.jpg
220
http://i30.tinypic.com/9qeg4g.jpg
QuintusSertorius
07-07-2008, 10:04
Seems to me that in 1.1 AI Makedonia almost always loses out to either KH or Epeiros. In my game even with me (Epeiros) out of Greece, they still don't seem to be able to actually beat KH. Why is that?
Tyrfingr
07-07-2008, 11:12
Impressive, the Ptolies still holds Kilikia after 50 years into the game. Usually, if the Ptolies hold Kilikia at that time, they have either conquered half of the map, or has just defeated the AS.
schlappi
07-07-2008, 16:37
Seems to me that in 1.1 AI Makedonia almost always loses out to either KH or Epeiros. In my game even with me (Epeiros) out of Greece, they still don't seem to be able to actually beat KH. Why is that?
Epirus gets kicked out of Italy pretty soon in 1.1, they have the resources to fully concentrate on marching on Pella and Illyria, making life a Hell for AI-controlled Macedonia.
burn_again
07-07-2008, 17:17
In most of my 1.1 campaigns Epeiros uses its Nellies to take Pella in the first turn and often Serdike in the second turn. Then the Maks are screwed. I have seen them coming back sometimes, if they manage to take Pergamon or if they can grab Athens early on.
General Appo
07-07-2008, 20:08
256 BC. Aedui. RTW.exe. No cheats ´cept toggle_fow and some Perect_Spy (and only to look at what the Baktrians and those guys are doing). No FD (though if the need arise...).
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/256.jpg
Arverni: Dead. Mohahahahah! :whip:
Casse: Not much, usual slow expansion.
Sweboz: Damn, looking much to good. These guys are really worrying me, though I have managed to negotiate an alliance with them.
Getai: Not much here really. Slow steady expansion. Been trying to take Naissos for some time now.
Qarth-Hadast: A bit depressing here really. Nothing at all ´cept some African conquests.
Lusitannan: Finally, someone to make me happy. Blitzed all the regions next to Carthage´s and are now going for Emporion.
Sab´yn: Meh. Really, just meh.
Sauromatae: Holy shit! When Foot said the steppes have teeth he wasn´t kidding. Killed of Hayasdan, took Sápmi and Pantikapaion, and are aiming for the rest of the Caucasus and Olbia.
Hayasdan: :laugh4: Owned suckers!
Pontos: Took Galatia early, I was hoping it would revolt to me or the Arverni, but no luck. Not really done anything since then.
Saka-Rauka: Some usual fighting with the Settlers of the Evil East , not much else.
Baktria: Some usual fighting with the Savage Indians of the Evil East, but not much else. Still friendly with the Evil Capitalists of the Evil East and the not-quite-so-Savage Indians of the Evil East.
Pahlava: Going good against the Sele´s, not much else to report.
Arche Seleukeia: Losing the war against the Pahlava. Lost Hekatomplyos to revolt exactly 6 times before the Pahlava took it. Lost Drangiane to rebels. No news on the western front, the Syrians war are at an standstill. They did took Sidon though, but that was years ago, and nothing really came of it. Should be praying that the Yellow Ukrainians and the Wannabe-Xerxes doesn´t gang up on them, or Scythian nobles will be dining in Babylon before the decade is out.
Ptolemaioi: Booooooooring. Took Kyrene, lost Sidon.
Koinon Hellenon: Kicking ass. Driven the Black Diadochi out of Hellas proper (well, apart from a stupid little island that refuses to surrender) and are looking comfortable against Epeiros, though that might chance soon... :inquisitive:
Makedonia: Beaten badly by the Orange Philosophers but are hanging on in Pella. Perhaps not for long though... :inquisitive:
Epeiros: Got driven out of Biggus Grekus by the ILF (Italian Liberation Front) but Taras revolted back and they´re now kicking the ass of those damnded barbarians.
Staying strong back on the mainland, even if they aren´t doing much ´cept taking Serdike. Have an alliance with me that might just prove very, very fruitful sometime soon.
Romani. Took Taras and Rhegion in the first years. Nothing´s gone right since then.
I did some really great campaigning in northern Italy, on both the strategic and tactical level. Anyway, the result was that I took all of Northern Italy, defeated 4 of their big armies and sacked (enslaved, razed every building and left) Arretium and Ariminium. Shortly after lost Taras to revolt. Been trying to attack me, but they´re still weak and I´m doing some very aggresive defending, striking their small armies on Roman soil before they can gather into one big one.
Aedui. Most glorious incredibly great Gallic tribe ever! WOOOOOOOOT111111111111!
Blitzed Arverni and most of Gaul, kicked the ILF´s ass and just made Illyria my clients (L4 Gov, have it in Liguria as well, will probably have it in all non-Gaul regions I take, at least the ones with non-Gaul but tribal regions) and have a Wannabe-Brennos army ready. And no, not the Rome-sacking Brennus, the other one. Might make it as far as Galatia, who knows.
Shit dude, I've never seen the Sauro's do so good before!:wall:
General Appo
07-07-2008, 23:50
Yeah, scares the shit out of me. Though in just the 2 yearss I´ve played since that screenshot they´ve aleady had 3 revolts that still havn´t been smacked down. They have however taken Ani-Kamah. I noticed in the RV a couple of days ago that Kappadokia has the Nomad resource. I´ll be funny if they take it and start churning out HA´s in the middle of Turkey. Even funnier when my guy in Greece finally reach Galatia, then we´ll have the Gauls and Sauro´s kicking as in Anatolia. Heirs of Alexandros, tremble, your doom is approaching.
Romani VH/H, Alex.exe
The year is 222BC:
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5020/222bcdq4.jpg
Some notes:
Aedui have taken control over Gaul, making the Arverni their procterate.
Currently they are at war with Lusotannan, trying to take over the Pyrenees.
Macedon is the domanting faction in Greece, at this moment they are besieging the last KH settlement there.
In Asia, Pontos, Ptolemaioi, baktria and pahlava are kicking Seleucid butt. At this speed, I estimate them to go down before 200BC.
This is btw the first time ever that I actually see pontus expanding like this.
Great campaing so far :2thumbsup:
That's some really awesome expansion you have there, especially on the Pontic and Pahlavan parts.
Marcus Ulpius
07-13-2008, 18:13
My Romani campaign, year 224 B.C. (RTW 1.5 installed, no BI or Alex)
https://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7254/224le4.png (https://imageshack.us)
I've managed to kick the Carthaginians from Africa, while Lusos are doing the same in Iberia.
Arverni are in a dire situation, being at war with Aedui and Sweboz.
Aedui are fighting Sweboz and actually managed to take a settlement in Iberia (may be Luso-Aedui war is not far away).
Casse are very slowly expanding in Britain.
Sweboz are scary. Taking most of Central Europe and having some Bastarnae town rebel for them. They've already tried to raid Northern Italy, but their two full stack armies were destroyed under the walls of Mediolanum, which I'm turning into an unassailable fortress.
Further to the East, Epirotes are dieing out after managing to nearly destroy Macedonians. But somehow the Macedonians have turned the tide and now Epirotes are languishing in Pannonia and Macs have also killed off KH (only Rhodes left).
Getae are slowly expanding into Thrakia and are not doing anything remarkable.
The biggest surprize are Pontos which have pushed the Seleucids out Of Anatolia, managed to take Byzantion and Pella and are sending decently sized armies towards the last Seleucid possessions in Asia Minor.
Ptolies are slowly eating Seleucids and fighting Saba.
Seleucids are throwing everything they have at Ptolies while they enjoy a ceasefire from the Pahlave who also managed to grab some of the Seleucid territory.
Baktrians are winning against Saka, who in their turn are fighting Sauromatae, which are also attacked by the Haya.
As for my plans, haven't decided yet whether to attack Lusitania or start my Macedonian wars. I'm planning to play defensively against northern barbarians until Marian reforms.
Spizania
07-14-2008, 09:35
https://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Spizania/254SeleucidCampaign.png
Pahlava are stopped dead by my policy of fortifying everything I can with stone walls, although they have allied with Hayasdan and Saka, who are both not currently at war with me, but the Hayasdan dont seem to be having much look expanding at all.
Pontus they made the mistake of trying to take Mazaka, so I beat them down and took Amaseia, beating an understrength stack composed of tonnes of Eastern Light Cav and skirmishers, with one unit of Chalkaspides and a couple of understrength units of Pandapoi thrown in.
Another victory for the Pantapoi, I had thought about reducing them just to Galatia, but I have bigger worries.
Ptolemaics: I took all Egypts asian holdings and Alexandria, Memphis and Paranaiton, they seem t obe recovering slightly and keep half heartedly seiging and assaulting Memphis, only to be driven off each time with light losses to my force and huge losses to them, since they seem to love attacking with a ram and a ladder.......
Sauromatae was doing well, took Trapezous which then apparently rebelled to the Koinon Hellenon and is full of a full stack of Im not sure what, as I dont have a spy to spare to go look.
Bactria has broken its alliance with me but hasnt declared war, but unfortunately has overrrun the last of the settlements between me and India, preventing my expedition of doom to secure a supply of Indian uber-archers. Not that I have troops free for that at the moment, but luckily Ive fortified my border settlements with stone walls and large complements of Persian Archers.
The western "barbarian" factions dont seem to be doing much, the Gallic civil war seems to be happening to the advantage of the Aedui at the moment
The real suprise is Getai and Epeirots, especialyl the latter, they have driven Macedonia out of northern Greece pretty much, are seiging the rebel settlement of Thermon and are fighting the Macedonians around Demetrias, although the Macedonians appear to hav elocal superiority of numbers, there are just so many epeirotes, they are fighting the Romans to a standstill in the north and are, as you can see, now loose in Asia Minor, Im at peace with them at the moment, but I may have to delay my Pontus bashing to defend Ipsos and Sidon if they turn agressive again, which they are sure to do.
Saba are doing nothnig as far as I can tell, might give them a tonne of money at some point, if I can remember what teh console command is.
I was also planning on doing an AAR of the rest of this campaign, detailing the sure to be epic war between the Seleukid empire and the Epeirots-who-are-Pergamon-without-modding
The Persian Cataphract
07-14-2008, 15:43
Out of what I have seen, Pahlava is taking the "Caspian empire" approach, and from there starts to pour into Medea, and sprawl out to the south and the east (A very desirable, and historically plausible model). Very nice.
Tyrfingr
07-19-2008, 01:10
Attempt as Pontos to recreate the Byzantine Empire of Basil II, 211BC
https://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2599/pontos211bcst5.jpg
* Saka Rauka Protectorate of Nisa
** Free City of Asaak
*** Aedui Protectorate of Rhaetia
**** Arverni Protectorate of Sequallra
In the east, I only have to conquer Cyprus and Sidon from the Ptolies, then my eastern Byzantine Empire's borders will be secured. In the west, I have to conquer Singidunum and Segestica from the Aedui, and Taras abd Rhegion from the romans, then my reconstructed empire of Basil II will be complete.
With the help of some Forced Diplomacy, I have contained the Lusotanni on the right side of the mountains, though they constantly pour through to attack the romans. In the south, the carthaginians have expanded into Egypt. In the north, the germans have started to come down heavy on the gauls, but I plan to FD their Belgae settlements to the Casse, to stop them. Otherwise, not much is happening....
SOSamurai
07-20-2008, 02:32
Casse campaign year 258 B.C. with RTW 1.5 (no BI or Alex) and no mods/cheats (except EB 1.1 and toggle_fow ofc :beam:).
https://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9100/minimapsk3.png
I'm very impressed with some of the AI expansions so far. The Epeirotes started well enough which was typical, but so did the Makedonians crippling Koinon Hellenon pretty quick (they're down to just Rhodes now), and after a while they turned on the Epeirotes. Although the Maks have gained the territories, the Epeirotes seem to have slightly more armies and could do some damage, depending on the AI, though they seem to be more focused on rebel settlements atm.
Baktria are the other faction performing well. After afew settlements in the region changed hands afew times early on, Baktria came out with the spoils in the end and then managed to take additional settlements from both Saka and Pahlava. Now Baktria's forces are spread pretty thin, but Pahlava and Saka have practically no millitary presence at all. The only people that should give Baktria any trouble now are the AS, who have been pretty quite on that front.
Everywhere else is pretty typical and uneventful as far as I can see.
I've just conquered the last settlement on the British Isle, I now need to decide where to land. I want to head towards the Sweboz and let the Gauls fight themselves alittle longer, but Sweboz has 6-7 full stacks to my one. :sweatdrop:
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
07-20-2008, 19:35
Makedonian campaign, RTW.exe, EB 1.1, H/M
262BC
https://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6186/makedoniendieweltimjahroa8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
252BC
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1862/makedoniendieweltimjahrba9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Same campaign:
242BC:
https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8863/makedoniendieweltimjahrdq3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
232BC:
https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4095/makedoniendieweltimjahrsy8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
The Hai are constantly trying to take Aghvan, while they "civilized" Uspe.
The Getai are my allies and act as my buffer against the Sarmatians, constantly warring them since ever.
The Sarmatians have an incredibly strong HA-army in Bastarnolandam. Early in the game they took the Crimea. I had an army underway to "liberate" the Hellenes there, but decided I needed the soldiers more in Pontos instead.
I wiped Pontos out cause they were simply in the way.
The AS betrayed me and decided to make peace with the Ptolemaioi instead, after I bought Nikaia, Sardeis and at last Ankyra from them. They are on the offense against the Parthians.
The Ptolemaioi have control of all of Syria and Babylonia except Antiocheia.
Baktria is under constant pressure.
The Carthaginians finally got it going, the Lusos are almost destroyed.
Arverni are allied to Rome and I must say they impress me the most of all AI-factions in my game.
The Romans are constantly warring the Aedui and I must take care that they do not pour into Gaul and build the famous Roman bloodknot. They just conquered Messana and the Punic war started. I hope for action.
https://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s311/Rilder/Koinonempire.png
My Koinon Hellenon Campaign.
237BC.
Nothing too exciting except for
EPEIROTS IN ROME.
They must of got off there asses after I pretty much threw them out of the greek peninsula and beat rome to hell.
Its amazing how good there doing since they have like 3 full stacks just buggering about in north Illyria.
Also Apparently a Bosphorian province rebelled to me, the Saurmotte (I can't spell there name) are sieging it though so I'm just gonna let them have it.
Also is it just me or is the Bactrian Empire starting to look like the head of a cow?
Hah, if Baktria captures that Alexandreia_blahblah settlement, it will look like the Dairy lee cow.
Rilder, don't be too exited about Epeiros' performance in your campaign :smash:
Hayasdan, 225 BC.
(not the same campaign as the one I posted a few pages back, started a new one on 1.1)
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4296/hayasdan225bcwx1.png
Epeiros destroyed the Romani in 258BC :inquisitive:
At first my Hayasdan empire expanded really fast, but I'm now facing strong opposition on all sides :oops:
The Ptolemaioi aren't a threat anymore, but the Saba have several full stacks in the area, and keep besieging Petra & Damaskos.
The Arche Seleukeia is slowly making a comeback in the east, while the Macedonians recently declared war on me in the west.
In the north the Sauromatae are becoming more aggressive, but nothing too serious so far. I lost Uspe, and they besieged Kotais several times with small armies.
Olimpian
07-21-2008, 20:12
Rilder, don't be too exited about Epeiros' performance in your campaign :smash:
Hayasdan, 225 BC.
(not the same campaign as the one I posted a few pages back, started a new one on 1.1)
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4296/hayasdan225bcwx1.png
Epeiros destroyed the Romani in 258BC :inquisitive:
At first my Hayasdan empire expanded really fast, but I'm now facing strong opposition on all sides :oops:
The Ptolemaioi aren't a threat anymore, but the Saba have several full stacks in the area, and keep besieging Petra & Damaskos.
The Arche Seleukeia is slowly making a comeback in the east, while the Macedonians recently declared war on me in the west.
In the north the Sauromatae are becoming more aggressive, but nothing too serious so far. I lost Uspe, and they besieged Kotais several times with small armies.
Damn...
johnhughthom
07-21-2008, 20:13
That is some crazy Epirote expansion.
Tyrfingr
07-21-2008, 20:49
https://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4296/hayasdan225bcwx1.png
Bat shit crazy epirotes, and how satisfying to see the Lusotanna reduces to a brown smudge on the tip of the Iberian peninsula.
I just started a Romani campaign (VH/M), and I'm going to track the AI's progress. So, being a programmer, I made a program that when I press print screen, gets a screenshot, cuts out the map, saves it to a file, figures out the season + date, sticks that on the image, and saves it as a gif. Then I can stick them together later and make an animation out of it. :beam:
When I get further into the campaign i'll link to it.
V.T. Marvin
07-22-2008, 14:11
That looks very nice indeed, Chris. :2thumbsup:
You may wish to upload your program to a mirror and post a link to it somewhere on the forum (EB Unofficial Modding Projects, maybe?) for others to use it too.:idea2:
I will, just need to make some UI improvements, and test it for a bit, to see if any bugs turn up.
V.T. Marvin
07-22-2008, 14:37
If I may, it would be very nice if your program will do the action triggered by some other key than just PrintScreen. It would thus allow to take normal screenshot (i.e. in battles, etc.) and from time to time use your program to produce and AI map. :2cents:
And if it somehow managed to toggle_fow on/off it would be even better, though I do not know if it is possible or worthwhile to do that. I am no programmer at all. :shrug:
Fondor_Yards
07-22-2008, 23:06
You know you can turn fow off yourself in game, hit the ~ key, then type in toggle_fow. Just would need to do that before you take the SS.
*I would also be really interested in that program, sounds like a real time saver.*
Got to 262 BC in the Romani campaign. I just won a big battle against the Aedui, when they attacked Bononia with a full stack. Thing is, over half of the stack were slingers, so the battle got a bit insane, with 1000 slingers on skirmish mode running all over the place.
A link to the animated gif of the campaign so far is below. I kept it as a link as it came out a bit big (~ 2MB!), but it does have 40 turns in it. I'm going to try and come up with a cunning plan to cut down the size (other than rar/zipping it).
Behold, my campaign in 8-bit color! : https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/out.gif
V.T. Marvin
07-23-2008, 08:02
@ Fondor_Yards - I know how to toggle fow manually, what I meant was asking whether the Chris´s program could do that automatically.
@ Chris - If that was an advertisement for your program, it could hardly be any better. Excellent job! :bow: It reminded me of the replay-world-map in the old Civilization games. It would be nice have something like that for EB too. It is a bliss to end a long-long campaign and just watch how the world map gradually changes to your color all over...
A suggestion - sorry if it is bothering for you - if the program could be activated by a script, it might maybe even possible to have it activated by pressing the end-turn button. Together with automatic fow on/off the end product could be this wonderful animated map just like you have made. I am just dreaming...:stupido2:
I'll have to look into the possibility of integrating it with RTW script. If what I want to do is possible, I have an idea that would be able to produce high quality replays, without the ridiculous filesize that the animated GIF would produce :beam:
Maion Maroneios
07-23-2008, 12:52
Guys, is it me or are the Romani somewhat weakened? In my Makedonia campaigns so far with 1.1, always have to help them against the Epairotai after I kick them out of mainland Hellas. It also seems that the March of Time takes auwfully long to take place...
d'Arthez
07-23-2008, 13:12
Chris, that is an awesome program / utility you have made.
:2thumbsup:
General Appo
07-23-2008, 17:24
Indeed, brilliant.
Damn, that is really nifty.
Fondor_Yards
07-24-2008, 20:13
I have noticed the Romans seem to be weaker, but thats a very good thing in my book. They used to quickly overrun everyone in Europe, especially taking most of Gaul and Central Europe way too soon. A combo of the rebel armies north of the alps/Boii and other factions actually being able to fight them makes it more interesting.
Gester24
07-29-2008, 04:07
i need help i dont know where to go to ask this question. when i try to cheat lol i tyope in the code then the unit name for example "Create_unit Arpi Principes 5 2 2 2 2" it says thatt the unit is not rexongized. if you know the units id for the romani can you plz tell me. or if you have a notehr thread that can help me cause its too slow for me to wait a season and my campagin map is dam laggy\
thnx
Tellos Athenaios
07-29-2008, 10:35
I suggest you try the main fora and the bugs/support fora. If I may ask why of all threads did you choose this one, plainy a thread without any relevance to your query?
i need help i dont know where to go to ask this question. when i try to cheat lol i tyope in the code then the unit name for example "Create_unit Arpi Principes 5 2 2 2 2" it says thatt the unit is not rexongized. if you know the units id for the romani can you plz tell me. or if you have a notehr thread that can help me cause its too slow for me to wait a season and my campagin map is dam laggy\
thnx
create_unit Arpi "roman_infantry_principes" 5 2 2 2
not sure about the EDU name though
Marcus Ulpius
08-02-2008, 19:25
https://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8061/205vj7.png (http://www.imagehosting.com/)
Quite some time has passed since my last screenshot at 224 BC, so here's how the things look like in 205 BC.
I've conquered Iberia and the Lusitanians are gone.
Casse did exactly nothing for those 20 years.
Arverni which I thought should be extinct by now, not only defeated Aedui, but seem to be defeating the Sweboz too:charge:
Sweboz left Mediolanum alone for 20 years already and are fighting with Arverni (and seem to be losing).
Getae - did nothing for 20 years.
Epirotes - have tried an attack on Epidamnus, which turned out t be unsuccessful. As it is now firmly controlled by Pontos.
Macedonians are now at war with Pontos and seem to be losing badly. If no one will attack Pontos from the East, the Macs are in for a big trouble.
Pontos - now control most of Asia Minor and are beating Macedonians and Epirotes.
Seleucids - unsurprisingly gone.
Ptolies - control most of the former Seleucid terriories and some more. Now fighting me over Kyrenaika area (lots of Klerouchoi and Klerouchoi Agema are thrown around, but my legions seem to be capable of doing their job).
Saba - fighting a hopeless war against the Ptolies. Nothing special actually.
Hayasdan - being killed by Pahlava and Sauromatae.
Pahlava - fighting Hayasdan.
Bactrians - finishing off Saka, strange, but no war with Pahlava (not for long I think).
Saka - slowly losing ground to the Eastern Greeks.
OMG that Pontos is just Crazy, I love it. The Aedui in southern Central Europe is is your doing or rebelino?
Marcus Ulpius
08-02-2008, 21:38
OMG that Pontos is just Crazy, I love it. The Aedui in southern Central Europe is is your doing or rebelino?
That distant Aedui enclave is a rebellion which happened a long time ago.They are constantly keeping 2 full stacks there doing nothing at all. Actually the Sweboz are doing exactly the same with their enclave with only difference that they keep 3 full stacks there, when they desperately need them fighting Arverni. Tbh, I think those enclaves and big armies that the AI is keeping there, far away from any action, are the reason why Aedui are all but extinct and Sweboz are losing ground to the Arverni. AI is not playing smart here.
General Appo
08-02-2008, 23:25
Man, the Pahlava in Alexandropolis must be shitting their pants all the time.
Here's my VH/M Pontos game at 257 BC with BI.exe.
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/pic.png
Seleucids are being stupid. I wouldn't have expanded as much as I have, but after they first broke our alliance, they sent stack after stack of cheap troops at my main army - my faction leader and some other family members, with a cheap phalanx. So now, all those family members have 3 silver chevrons, and have been fighting off Seleucid stacks for 10 years now. The Seleucids have actually been funding my war against them - every other turn either I offer them a ceasefire/alliance in exchange for some cash, or they come to me offering me money to make an alliance (!). Which they break the next turn.
Also, Rome has taken their Faction Leader and a medium sized army on a boat over to Alalia, and are currently besieging it. KH is filling Rhodes with stacks.
Hopefully things will get a bit more interesting as it goes on.
https://img300.imageshack.us/img300/151/rometw2008080213473715xp4.th.png (https://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rometw2008080213473715xp4.png)
2 things
Epirus and Lusotana vs Rome and Carthage and Rome is getting beat by the 2 of them and Carthage can't do anything to the Spaniards
In Greece, Epirus didn't attack pella and Makedon didn't capitalize on that even though they took Athens but troops from Sparta slowly took makedon's territories and Pontus took the ones in asia minor but both factions didn't capture mytilene and Chalkis and see what happened lol
General Appo
08-03-2008, 09:30
Holy shit, that is one bi... wait a minute. You´re playing as Baktria right? Damn. Please, always inform us of which faction you are playing as.
And what´s up with the Seleukids in Dayuan? Surely you cannot leave them there behind your border like that.
Tristuskhan
08-03-2008, 19:09
Holy shit, that is one bi... wait a minute. You´re playing as Baktria right? Damn. Please, always inform us of which faction you are playing as.
And what´s up with the Seleukids in Dayuan? Surely you cannot leave them there behind your border like that.
Yes he can, the province keeps the Saka busy for decades, I did it in my Pahlavan game too. It keeps your back secure and leaves you with a single frontline . Very efficient until the Saka take it and become angry at you.
QuintusSertorius
08-03-2008, 19:11
create_unit Arpi "roman_infantry_principes" 5 2 2 2
not sure about the EDU name though
Without the "_" underscores, though.
From the Pontos campaign earlier, just finished off Hayasdan, its currently ~249BC. Spoilered because its a bit wide.
https://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n419/chriseden0/out-1.jpg
Sweboz 250BC.
https://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s311/Rilder/sweboz250bc.jpg
Not anything tooo insteresting so far.
Looks like KH got control of Southern Greece and Epeiros the North, KH and Epeiros are allied.
Rome seems to have moved West.
Also that army spawning directly east of my north-easternest province annoys the hell out of me, but I supose its for the best so I don't end up fighting bloody horse archers. ( I did get a pretty epic fight out of that stack though. :2thumbsup:)
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/AI%20Progression/Map234BC.jpg
There has been some pretty cool progression here.
Aedui: The Aedui have gained the upper hand over the Arverni and have controlled the greater part of Gaul
Arverni: Dying.
Arche Seleukeia: Well, they have been losing ground to the Ptolemaioi and the Pahlava, but they are fighting back against the Pahlava and it's pretty much a stalemate now, but the AS looks like it could reclaim Persepolis and the rest of the Pahlavan domininions. They are ignoring the Ptolemaioi mostly, but this could change since the latter have taken Karthathiokerta.
Baktria: Fighting Saka steppe nomads.
Casse: Nothing unusual here, move along.
Epeiros: Yep, that's me. I kicked Makedonia and the KH out of mainland Greece and have kicked the Romans out of Italia. More info on that later.
Hayasdan: These guys have been progressing pretty good. Even though they have gone into the steppes, it hasn't been drastical and they had at one point conquered Pantikapaion, which they then lost to rebellion.
Koinon Hellenon: Ah yes, these guys are the modern-day Euxeine Alliance (with Rhodos as well), which got Trapezous and Pantikapaion after the Seleukidai (hah!) and Hay lost them to rebellion. They have proven to be pretty fierce still. They at one point managed to take Sinope and were laying siege to Amaseia when the Pontikoi struck back.
Lusotannan: Nothing really unusual going on here. They were laying siege to Emporion at one point though.
Makedonia: When I kicked them out of Hellas, they started amassing their forces in Mytilene, after which they conquered Pergamon, and thus they are now Pergamon. They have looked at Byzantion for some time, but so far neither Pontos nor Pergamon has managed to take the city.
Pahlava: Twenty years ago, they had cut a purple swathe (rain..?) through the Seleucid lands up to the ancient city of Persepolis. It all went wrong when their main force got defeated whilst besieging Susa. This was a crucial turning point it turned out, and they have lost the cities of Hekatompylos, Gabai, and Zadrakata. They are not dead yet and could get back, though much of it depends whether the Seleukidai strike at them or the Ptolemaioi.
Ptolemaioi: For about 30 years there was a stalemate in the Levant. The AS had managed to take Kilikia [Tarsos] while the Ptolemaioi had taken Syria Koile [Damaskos]. A few years back this changed when the AS focused on the Pahlavan threat and started to send its armies there. Ever since, they have been losing ground to the Ptolemaioi in the west. Perhaps this will nudge the Pergamese and Pontikes to finally come out of their shell and claim some part of Mikra Asia.
Pontos: You can't see it in this pic, BUT they have taken (and lost and taken) Nikaia. After losing Sinope to the Euxeines, they have struck back and retaken it. We will see how everything goes now.
Romani: Well, I fought a lot of wars against these guys, and as soon as I removed all traces from them from Italia, they were reduced to Massalia, and so they shall be known. In my game, they are known as Phileromaion Massalia, but I'm unsure whether this is correct Greek, so if you know the proper spelling, please tell me. Anyways, they've managed to take Tolosa and have left me so far, so I'll just see what will happen.
Saba: Well, the Ptolemaioi failed at holding Bostra and Palmyra and they have both rebelled to the Saba, so maybe there will be some interesting stuff here. To represent the alliance between the Nabatu and Saba, they are now known as The Arabian Alliance.
Saka-Rauka: Have been fighting Baktria over the last 30 years.
Sauromatae: Fighting a bit with Hay.
Sofat-Softim bi-Qarthadast (or just Carthage): During my campaigns with my new hero Herakleon Atintan, I gave them Capua as a gift. However, as soon as my campaign was done and I had taken Mediolanum, they decided it would be a great time to betray me and siege Rhegion. Especially the fact that I had disbanded my elite Elephant corps (3 silver chevrons, gah) helped them, methinks. Anyways, with a quick army assembled at Syrakousai I defeated them and subsequently sent a Syrakousan army to take Lilibeo, which succeeded. I then sailed my hero to Sardinia and took that as well. Still, we need to see what I prefer to do now.
Sweboz: Blaegh. Nothing very interesting. Just have been trying to conquer cities close by.
Mediolanicus
08-10-2008, 16:49
240BC
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/Miros_G/arverni240.jpg
235BC
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/Miros_G/arverni235.jpg
From my Arverni campaign.
SPQR just decided to attack three of my cities at the same time. I guess it's time to sack Rome and take the rest of Italy in the process of doing so.
I'm worried that the Sweboz will take the last two settlements seperating us and will stab me in the back.
The Luso were kind enough to leave that neutral terrain at our border untouched for the last 15 years.
The Seleucids were blitzing across the map, taking everything from Byzantium to Sinai to the Aral Sea to the Indus.
But Pahlava, Baktria and now finally the Ptolies too are fighting back. I may help Pontos a bit, because they are down to their last settlement.
Epeiros had a good start taking Pella, but then got beaten badly by Macedon and came to a halt. They only took Thermon aprt from that.
The Getai are surprising me! And they are about to take some more settlements everywhere along their borders.
The Saka have almost no armies and Baktria is marching a full stack into their territory.
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/AI%20Progression/Map224BC.jpg
Aedui: Hasn't changed that much in 10 years. Tried some half-hearted attempts to take Burdigala.
Arverni: Still dying.
Arche Seleukeia: Steadily losing ground to the Yellow D -- Ptolemaic Empire.
Baktria: Conquered Taksashila, lost Marakanda. Still fighting them Sakae.
Casse: Have almost united the British Isles. Perhaps when they spawn they can take the attention from the Aedui off the Arverni, allowing the latter to re-establish itself again.
Epeiros: Best faction ever. Duh. I created a landbridge between Italia and Hellas by taking Patavium, Dalminion and Segestica.
Hayasdan: A bit sleepy, it would seem. Still trying to take Mtskheta with two or three units each turn, heh.
Koinon Hellenon:At some point, they went to take Kotaïs, but they have lost Trapezous. Their alliance spreads over Rhodos, Byzantion, Pantikapaion and Kotaïs.
Getai: Nice, steady expansion. Even though they lost Kallatis, they managed to take all of Thrace (Serdike and Tylis). They might attack me in Pella soon though, I will have to watch my step.
Lusotannan: Uniting Iberia. They might face the combined might of Massalia and Karchedon at some point. We'll see what happens.
Makedonia/Pergamon: Sieging Ipsos.
Pahlava: They still have managed to hang on to those three enclaves in Persia, and are sieging Hekatompylos. Perhaps the tables will turn?
Ptolemaioi: *runs away screaming*
Pontos: Conquered Trapezous, lost Nikaia and Byzantion to rebellion. Fail.
Romani/Massalia: Conquered Burdigala and are looking to Iberia now.
Saba: Well, they are still busy with the tribes in Southern Arabia. Let's hope they can pose a serious threat to Ye Olde Yellowe Death.
Saka: Fighting Baktria.
Sofat Softim bi-Qarthadast: Waging a naval war with me. They are no match for my tetrereis though.
Sweboz: These guys refuse to do anything. To busy with their blonde German ladies, methinks.
https://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s311/Rilder/pontos238.jpg
Pontus 238 BC.
On my front..
I'm at peace with EVERYONE, Except the Rebels of course. Its a bit boring but eh, I was at war with the Seleukids but they just signed a ceasefire.
On the AI front,
Antiochus (I think) is a wasteland, 90% of the time its sieged and switches hands alot.
Other details really can be figured out by looking at the map.
Double post but since people don't seem to be posting I have an update for my pontos game.
https://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s311/Rilder/pontos215.jpg
Pontos 215BC
Iberia: Lusotannon seems to have ousted Carthage and is now warring with the Averni
Gaul: Not much Change, Casse making 3/4 Stack attacks on Sweboz sometimes. Sweboz seems to have made a bit of an advance into gaul.
Italia: Pretty Stagnant, Taras taken recently.
Greece: OH GODS MAKEDONS RUN AWAYYYYYYYY
Getai also doing quite well for themselves
Sarmatia: Heading West.
Asia Minor(aka pontos update) Peace Still Reigns, on the Western front Pergamon and Byzantion were conquered due to Rp reasons. On the Eastern front all province gains except for Karkathiokerta have been Bought (not bribed) from the Ptolmies and nobody has war decced me yet.
Other then that the map can tell you.
Holy hell man. That's one comeback from the Makedonian side.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-17-2008, 18:19
Ok.. if you guess what faction I am then I'll give you a balloon :balloon2:
:clown:
Autumn 266BC
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/TW%20games/romes_fall.jpg
Well definately not the romans, I hope!
Carthage or saba?
Ibn-Khaldun
08-17-2008, 19:01
No.. I'm not Carthage and I'm not Saba:clown:
But you were close ~:rolleyes:
Ibn-Khaldun
08-17-2008, 19:20
I wish .. I never managed to expand that fast with Makedonia.. :beam:
Let's just say.. I am awfully alone in my little island :laugh4:
Olimpian
08-17-2008, 19:45
Casse?
Ibn-Khaldun
08-17-2008, 19:53
No.. not Casse.. they are too much in north :beam:
Another hint.. I'm located little bit west from the Italian peninsula :clown:
Tollheit
08-17-2008, 19:53
KH I presume?
Ibn-Khaldun
08-17-2008, 20:18
No.. not KH :beam:
Actually Moros mentioned them already.. so he really should get the balloon :balloon2:
Yes.. I'm Romani.. on the little island called Corsica..
How I ended up there?? Well.. you need to have some skill to loose as a Romani and looks like I have that skill :laugh4:
My southern legion was defeated by the Epirotes because they brought(or recruited?) reinforcements and when I finally attacked them there was too large of a force against me..
Foolishly I used my northern army to attack Corsica (I wanted to spice up my game!).. My navy was defeated by the Carthagian navy and I was stranded on that island. Before I managed to get a new legion the Carthagian army near Lilibaeo came and attacked Capua and then Rome.. Because I was in dept when that happened I had no chance to recruit any units to protect my northern cities and they too fell to the Carthagians.. Epirote managed to get Arpi in the same time when Carthage took Rome..
There is one good thing in this campaign actually.. the Carthage and Epirotes are at war now.. Epirotes took Capua and are heading south against Rhegion(Carthagians just took it last turn)..
Have to say that this have been one of the most interesting campaigns because I have never seen Carthage to become so powerful so fast.. :yes:
Hahahahaha!
Man, that is TOO awesome. You will get a balloon for me, just for the heck of it. Great stuff. :balloon: :thumbsup:
Any chance of uploading your save game? I couldn't mind having a quick go at such a campaign to see if I can pull it out the fire.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-18-2008, 12:55
I played that campaign for couple of turns so it's 263BC but I'm still stuck on that island..
Rome rebelled back to me just to be taken by the Carthagians again..
I have disbanded most of the army because I never would've get out of the debt..
I have only one family member - Blasio..
Anyway.. I'll upload it to somewhere if you are interested..
Your in a situation where you desperately need to fight back and you disbanded your army? I don't think I'd have the patience, the amount of time it would take to save up and get a new one...
Well, you also need means to move your island off the island so without boats, without shipyard and with debts you are doomed.
Tartaros
08-19-2008, 11:03
Ok.. if you guess what faction
Thats great:dizzy2:,
be a napoleon and conquer europe!!
A balloon!
Thank you dear sir. :bow:
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1343/pontos200bcxk4.png
Pontos 200 BC (Previous Update (https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1343/pontos200bcxk4.png))
Iberia: Lustannon Kicked out Averni (there dead fully now) and are expanding into gaul, but Carthage is trying to reclaim her colonies it seems.
Gaul: OH GODS ROMANS, SWEBOZ AND CASSE .
Greece: Koinon Hellenon dead after there last family member died..
Rhodios. After Koinon hellenon were defeated. The Makedons were quick to move in, lead by a Agregade (sp?) the city defected to Pontos (Yay bribery) Though he underestimated his brethren in Makedon Service who where quick to get Revenge on the upity noble. In the Insuing battle he fought like a true Pontic, killing hundreds by himself before he and his men finally fell. This inspired the Pontic people and united them under the Pontic Heir Phraortes Kianos, and so began the Rhodian War.
Dacia: Makedon making aggressive moves against the Getai.
The East: Hayasdan and Sauromotte still in a vicious stalemate.
Baktria has expanded but other then that still pretty boring.
General Appo
08-20-2008, 09:34
OMG, the Casse Naval Script actually works!!
General Appo
08-25-2008, 18:42
Something just went horribly wrong.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/typ.jpg
johnhughthom
08-25-2008, 18:58
One heck of a Seleukid rebellion there.
Ravenfeeder
08-25-2008, 19:51
Can you put a save of that somewhere (axifile.com?) for download please. I can see lots of fun to be had. If _Chris can work out how to change factions mid-game then lots and lots of fun could be had.
General Appo
08-25-2008, 20:31
Hey man, it took me seriously less than 10 minutes to do that, it´ll probably take me more time to upload it.
Just start a AS campaign, give all cities Very High Taxes, move all garrisons out and wait 2 turns. That´s what I did.
Fondor_Yards
08-25-2008, 21:36
Hey man, it took me seriously less than 10 minutes to do that, it´ll probably take me more time to upload it.
Just start a AS campaign, give all cities Very High Taxes, move all garrisons out and wait 2 turns. That´s what I did.
:laugh4:
Ravenfeeder
08-27-2008, 14:49
Baktria H/M BI.exe Client rulers removed from script :(
Sorry about the quality of the pics, didn't have the time or patience to mess with Photoshop, so took the quick and dirty route.
I unfortunately had AA turned on when I took earlier pictures, so here's 240bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria240.jpg
AS and Ptolemaioi declared peace in the 260's and are now allied. It doesn't seem to have done either one any favours. The loss of Cyprus to KH has slowed the Yellow Fever and the eastern provinces of AS keep revolting just when there's a Baktrian army nearby - wonder how that happened. Saba holding their own against Ptolemaioi at present, but I can't see it continuing.
In the west, Kart Hadast... um WOW! They landed a large stack north of Rhegion just before taking Messana and the combination has allowed them to power north. Expansion in Iberia is atypically early too. However the Romani are about to launch a counter-attack
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria240b.jpg
and all the reserves are nowhere in sight
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria240a.jpg
In other news, Makedon is starting to show its power, but will probably dissipate it in Asia Minor. Pontos did own Nikea and Byzantion, but Tylis proved to be a conquest too far and they have collapsed to the Mak onslaught.
Ravenfeeder
08-28-2008, 01:12
Continuing
230bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria230.jpg
Maks go mad. Kart Hadast reserves grow larger. AS suffer a setback in the East. Ptolemaioi start to grind down Saba. The steppes are a three-way battleground. Saka do nothing at all.
Ravenfeeder - That looks almost the same as my Baktria game did at that year. Im at 186 at the moment, Maks are in the Baltic and Carthies expelling Lusos and Romani at same time, havent played it in a month or 2, but I'll post the map soon. It is/was also my first BI.exe game, removing any thought of using rtw again :2thumbsup:
EDIT:
https://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9245/baktriam184qd9.png
Mediolanicus
08-28-2008, 16:03
My Arverni campaign in 215 BC with BI and MAA's City Mod
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/Miros_G/arverni215.jpg
Makedonia has had quite a come back after being reduced to Lesbos and Pergamon by 255bc.
Pontos was down to one settlement 2 decennia back, but they are gaining strength again.
The Ptolies have had their asses kicked from 3 sides since the beginning of my campaign. I doubt they'll hold out much longer, but I hope they'll somehow manage to come back too...
Onehandstan
08-29-2008, 16:50
On my romani campaign AS were wiped out by 230bc (roughly) and the yellow death has no other superpower to stop it. The Arverni have only one province due to my benevolence, but they just betrayed me and are paying for it (dearly :whip:), the casse have all of the Isles and Koinon hellenon recently had an Iberian settlement rebel to them, only to be retaken by the qarthhadast.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
09-04-2008, 01:06
262BC
https://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6186/makedoniendieweltimjahroa8.jpg (https://imageshack.us/)
252BC
https://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1862/makedoniendieweltimjahrba9.jpg (https://imageshack.us/)
242BC
https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8863/makedoniendieweltimjahrdq3.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
232BC
https://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4095/makedoniendieweltimjahrsy8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
222BC
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7982/makedoniendieweltimjahrlb8.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
212BC
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3163/makedoniendieweltimjahrje5.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Iberia: It was all Luso, but then the Carthies steamrolled the country and brought troops like elite phalangitai to Iberia, brought the Lusitani to the verge of extinction, but these turned the tide again and now there's only one Carthaginian stronghold in the central area left besides the coast.
Eastern Europe: The Getai are the perfect buffer between me and the Sarmatae. Especially since the Greek of the Crimea "begged me for help" against the nomads. They don't make attempts to retake the region, I guess it's because of their constant feud with the Getai and Hay.
Greater Iran: The Seleukides are slowly expanding eastward while losing ground in the west. Baktria is slowly conquering former satrapies.
Italy and Gaul: A political masterpiece of me. The Romans had attacked me in Dalminion after having made their way through Gallia Omnia unto the very Oceanus. I conquered Segestica from them, and levied an allied army, consisting of Greeks from the South, Celts and Thracians from my allies in the north, declared a crusade for the liberation of Gaul from the Romans, and sent them to northern Italy where they occupied the towns of Cisalpine Gaul. I gave them to the Arverni who were on their road to winning the civil war. I gave Arretium to the Getai which were allied to the Romans (they were my allies previously), and two turns later it rebelled and the beautiful alliance between the two is a victim of my sabotage...:grin: Now the Getai are my allies again. However, my allied army got slowly annihilated, and so I withdraw. The Arverni than made peace with the Aedui and attacked their old ally Rome! They took two settlements, and even the Aedui took Bratosporios, but the Romans are tough cookies, they made their way back, even besieging Rhegion, after the Carthaginians were close to making their way through Italy for a short time. It seems that I have to annihilate the Romans rather sooner than later. The only problem is I don't want to get into confrontation with Carthage because I don't want a Kyrenaian sand war...
Previous updates
235
https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7879/baktriazf9.png (https://imageshack.us)
210
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6316/baktria210dq2.png (https://imageshack.us)
195
https://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7088/195bcqs2.png (https://imageshack.us)
184
https://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9245/baktriam184qd9.png
175
https://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2197/baktria175yp0.png (https://imageshack.us)
Carthies losing ground to revolt in Iberia and to the Romani in southern France and southern Italy. May have a comeback but they seem to be lacking troops in north Africa and southern Europe.
Arverni/Aedui , being allied, have held out against the Carthies, Sweboz for decades, now the resurgent Romani are taking territory from them
Sweboz solidifying ground to the north, pushing back the Maks and taking advantage of revolts and Mak retreat (...though it may not look like it, those Mak settlements are almost empty, and Sweboz stacks lurk everywhere)
Romani, currently the richest faction, are recovering from almost being defeated to driving out the Carthies from Italy and taking more ground to the north, also...whats the trigger for AI marian reforms??:help:
KH by some miracle are still in the game despite having only 2 settlements for 5 years, have set out and attacked+claimed territory for themselves (not through revolt)
Makedonia, have had a change of heart and are now focused on fighting the Hai, leaving most northern territories undefended, they now have about 5 or 6 full stacks worth migrating south-east
Sauro have been quiet, only defending from Maks and skirmishes with Pahlavans, still neutral to me somehow
Pontos tried to reclaim territory from Hayasdan, now they sit in Trapezous with half a stack waiting to be put down by an impending Hai full stack
Hai punched a hole through the Pontos/Mak war, all but destroyed Pontos and took Pontos' place against the Maks, looking very strong
Sele's, down to 3 settlements, lack any military strength after nearly 20 years of fighting turn after turn with me and the Ptollies
Ptollies, declared war on me in ~180bc (by crossing enemy Sele lands:wall:) , were defeated, sued for peace which i accepted, attacked same turn, was again defeated... now laying seige to Damaskos with a full stack
Saba have the odd skirmish with Ptollies but otherwise inactive
Pahlava lost their homelands and fled north before the Sauro came back for their land, now Pahlava is isolated and at war with all its neighbours
Casse havent moved in nearly 50 years
Baktria :2thumbsup: after fighting sometimes multiple battles per turn after turn for 20 years against the Seles, finally recieved armies from the Pahlavan conquest and pushed to the mediterranean coast, now retraining and consolidating new winnings, holding off Ptollies, waiting for Hai to declare war, and in the north, hunting Pahlavans
Ravenfeeder
09-06-2008, 15:27
Continuing Baktria game
220bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria220a.jpg
Makedon steamrollers Pontos
Hayasdan start to get involved south of the Caucuses
Ptolemaioi take most of Arabia and then lose it to revolts
Kart Hadast pay the price for leaving 6 full stacks doing nothing in Numidia. Wonder what will happen if they ever go to war against the Ptolemaioi.
Ptolemaioi and AS still allied.
Spooky32
09-06-2008, 22:20
Romani Alex.exe
VH/M
https://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7017/rometwalx20080906220141vz6.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
500 thousand!? Dont you build anything lol!
Olimpian
09-08-2008, 12:08
500 thousand!? Dont you build anything lol!
500 thousand is nothing.I had 3 million when playing Romani in 1.0 and building constantly in every settlement.Guess they're big money-makers :2cents::2cents::2cents:
Olimpian
09-08-2008, 20:25
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6396/0014qf4.jpg
I've never seen this before...Saurmo doing so well south of the Caucasus.And the campaign is still young..I'm curious how things will evolve there.
Ravenfeeder
09-10-2008, 20:18
Continuing Baktria game 210bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210a.jpg
Makedon still on a rampage, AS and Ptolemaioi still allied.
Kart-Hadast oh dear. Oh for a fleet!
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210b.jpg
Continuing Baktria game 210bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210a.jpg
Makedon still on a rampage, AS and Ptolemaioi still allied.
Kart-Hadast oh dear. Oh for a fleet!
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210b.jpg
That is som Crazy expansion, especialy the Macedonian one.
Continuing Baktria game 210bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210a.jpg
Makedon still on a rampage, AS and Ptolemaioi still allied.
Kart-Hadast oh dear. Oh for a fleet!
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria210b.jpg
move_character. It'd make things VERY interesting.
Ravenfeeder
09-19-2008, 18:56
I've considered it. If I ever get the March of Time I might do it, but I'm also curious to see what happens when the Romani have been out of the game so long. Can they really see off the Lusotannan and Makedon? Also if Kart-Hadast and the Ptolemaioi ever go to war it could get interesting, especially as the latter haven't been able to see of their only enemies for the last 50 years - Saba. Should have another update this weekend.
Ravenfeeder
09-20-2008, 15:19
Continuing Baktria game. 200bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/baktria200.jpg
Makedon now allied with AS (who are also still allied to Ptolemaioi)! Multiple stacks of troops in black uniforms are swarming around Ekbatana, as are several black clad assassins, although we're not yet formally at war. I'm really not looking forward to this.
Saka are crushed. Saba are holding out. There are 4 major battle markers around Carmana - all Ptolemaioi victories.
Kart Hadast are happy to let their european possessions fall away. Lusotannan starting to get going. Arvernii had a brief moment of glory, but are losing ground again.
Tellos Athenaios
09-20-2008, 15:55
I presume the Maks crushed the Hayasdan and then had those settlements revolt on them afterwards?
Ravenfeeder
09-21-2008, 00:21
That's correct. The combination of distance from capital and cultural differences with the Eastern/Nomad populations must be hard to keep under control.
Epeiros, 242 - 232
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https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/Epeiros232BC.jpg
Pahlava!
Epeiros, 242 - 232
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/Epeiros242.jpg
https://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x152/Elphir/EB/Epeiros232BC.jpg
Pahlava!
ĺook at Pontus it the first one :dizzy2: awesom, what exe what if any modifications?
BI, without any modifications.
Pontos almost lost the fgiht against Makedonia, but they've come back and are pressing the Makedonians to the Aegean.
gamegeek2
09-22-2008, 00:01
Carthage seems to never go beyond Africa, except to take Iberian provinces, Syracuse, and maybe Rhegion.
Carthage seems to never go beyond Africa, except to take Iberian provinces, Syracuse, and maybe Rhegion.
I've noticed the same thing. I've never seen an emergent Carthage, and the Roman-Carthaginian wars were fought, basically, to determine which major power would rule the western med. sea, if I remember my world history analogy correctly, so shouldn't they DO more? I wish Carthage would rampage a bit more, cause some havoc.
I've noticed the same thing. I've never seen an emergent Carthage, and the Roman-Carthaginian wars were fought, basically, to determine which major power would rule the western med. sea, if I remember my world history analogy correctly, so shouldn't they DO more? I wish Carthage would rampage a bit more, cause some havoc.
Cant agree with you theere, I haveseen campains where the carties steam rooled Itay, and had a Epiros campain, where they took Iberia, which a did not really bother with and than started crawling from the Pyrneys with full stack and loots of elites.:oops:
Cant agree with you theere, I haveseen campains where the carties steam rooled Itay, and had a Epiros campain, where they took Iberia, which a did not really bother with and than started crawling from the Pyrneys with full stack and loots of elites.:oops:
Well I'm certainly glad it CAN happen. Hope I see it, eventually. Maybe I shouldn't play a faction that has to crush Carthage every time....
Chris1959
09-22-2008, 15:55
I've seen Carthage really push into Iberia, in my current campaign they almost killed the Luso until Rome (me) stepped in, it was almost a re-play of Hannibal and Saguntum.
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3880/163bcyc9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
AI Carthies...using bi.exe
Also the strongest Hayasdan Ive experienced
Yuezhi invaded, lost 2 armies to them with 3 of theirs remaining
https://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3880/163bcyc9.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
AI Carthies...using bi.exe
Also the strongest Hayasdan Ive experienced
Yuezhi invaded, lost 2 armies to them with 3 of theirs remaining
Can't see your picture,
Tellos Athenaios
09-23-2008, 20:45
I can. Bandwidth trouble? :inquisitive:
Ah, now it's here.
*sigh* Ziggo...
Ah, now it's here.
*sigh* Ziggo...
Yeh, I think imageshack's been having problems lately, Ive had missing images on account (shows 10 of a listed 13) and images not appearing (like above) thoughout the last couple weeks.
Pinkkiller
10-03-2008, 14:05
hmm any1 ever seen saka conquer middle east and anatolia? :inquisitive: in other words..beat baktria,phalava and seleucid empire
General Appo
10-03-2008, 22:02
Seeing as this wonderful thread has been a little low on action lately, I´m gonna kick it right back with a megapost. You have no one but yourselves to blame.
Pontos M/M RTW.exe until 230ish, then BI.exe
No cheats, to my or my opponenest advantage (except toggle_fow), no console manipulating and no file alterting (except one special noted case).
Fanatics Phalanx Mod used. FD installed but not so far used. Perfect Spy used.
My only real house rule for this game is to expand as little as possible and affect my neighbours as little as possible. Basically I´m just sitting around buildings roads and stuff.
And yes, this is the same campaign as in my "Guess my faction" thread. Glad you noticed.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/261BC.jpg
261 BC
Not a lot going on in the world really.
The Sele´s and Ptolies are at peace since 270, though a short war flared up when the Ptolies took Kyrene and then lost it to revolt, but a ceasefire was quickly arranged. The Sele´s have taken Aghvan and Galatia, though the later is close to revolt. Lost Sogdiane to Pahlava, but are holding firm otherwise.
Baktria has started of alright, taking Kophen and Haomovarga. Usual swift conquest of the steppes by Saka-Rauka, made it to Mazsakata just before the Pahlava.
Hayasdan are doing good, securing most of the Caucasus, already fighting some minor battles against boring Sauro´s.
Ptolies havn´t really done anything since taking Libye and losing Kyrenaia. Sab´yn... well, you´ve got eyes don´t you?
Makedonia doing decent except for one little thing, defeated Pergamon and Ionia, as well as Sparte. Athenai is still KH property.
Oh right, the one little thing. Pyrrhos didn´t go on with some crazy scheme that ended in Argos, but actually took advantage of the situation and took Pella. He himself then lead his troops to conquer Dardanoia, where after his son Ptolemaois secured Dalmatia. Then he died. I think of old age, but you know, maybe some lose rooftile did it. They´ve never really liked Pyrrhos.
Getai are doing their usual stuff, uniting the tribes of the Thrakioi. Northwest of them Sweboz are doing same thing with the Germans, just a bit slower at the moment.
Casse have conquered Corieltauvae in search of more tea, and now for some reason they´ve set their windy eyes on the rolling hills of Cambriae.
Down in Gaul, Aedui subdued some Belgians and got Sequallra over to their side, while the filthy Arverni upset the whole world by taking Massalia and according to rumour forcing the honorable Massaliotai to engage in such barbarian customs as completely shaving their beards and washing with what the barbaroi call "soap". Barbarians.
Romans are doing okay, secured Magna Graecia as well as Liguria and Aemilia.
Karchedo... Karthadastim are boooooooooring. As in boring. Luso´s aren´t any better.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/249BC.jpg
249 BC
A bit more exciting all of a sudden.
Saka´s took Dayuan after it revolted from Sele rule. Aria too revolted, and Baktria moved in to remove their newfound freedom. The Seleukids launched an unsuccessful attack, and now the two are at war.
Pahlava might look dead, but for some really strange reason they´ve been marching miles through Saka land just to get to the Sauro´s. And not just the closest Sauro towns either, they´re heading straight for Uspe. Right now they´re besieging it, but it´ll only make it an easier target for the Hai, who are probing the Sauro defenses.
Getai got some coast, and I got a new trade partner. Galtia revolted to Arverni, whom are defending their new territory with great resolve. Me myself I´ve gotten my economy into the + regions, and can finally start really working on the infrastructure.
No change in Hellas, though lots and lots of fighting, Maks vs Pyrrhos´s sons and Athenai.
Ptolies took Augila and Kush, lost the latter to revolt. Sab´yn also got Tadmor from Sele´s and Hadramut by for once actually doing something on their own, not just waiting for their enemies to screw up.
Carthies are still boring, some limited African advance. Same goes for Luso´s, though they do seem to be preparing for something special...
Romans are kicking Keltoi butt. The red flood rushed down from the hills of Italia, struck against the Alps and parted, spreading west and east, swallowing all in its way. Seriously kickass.
Somewhat united Germans are uniting themselves some more, now at an alarming speed. Also kicked Keltoi butt by taking northeast Belgae.
Apart from getting their butts kicked, the Gauls aren´t doing much.
The Casse took the rolling hills of Cambriae, and are now looking with greedy eyes at the Cornovae beaches.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/238BC.jpg
238 BC
Yeah yeah, I know what you´re all looking at, but lets just do this the traditional way.
Pahlava gave up trying to take Uspe, didn´t lead to anything anyway. They´re now sitting around being depressed about being such weak and uncivilized bitches. Technically the Saka too are just sitting around, but they´re doing it because... they like doing the unexpected. Yeah, they´re real rebels against society.
Baktria continues its advance into Sele land by taking Gabiene, though the whole thing sure looks ridiculously flankable.
Ptolies still loving their Seleukid brothers, and fighting Eleutheroi and Sab´yn "up the Nile" as the fashionable Alexandrian brats say. For some reason occupied some worthless town and claimed a lot of desert as their own, no one has bothered to defy the claim.
Hayasdan took that province that always makes me hungry when I think about it. Gosh I could use some good pork. Damn that stupid province.
Sele´s took both Bithynia and Karia, but both keep revolting to Getai and KH respectively.
Maks kicked KH out of Hellas, but the dream of a free capitalist Greece still lives in the capital center of the world, Rhodos, and its occasional ally, Karia.
The sons of Pyrrhos have come back from fighting barbaroi to once again haunt the Maks, taking Ionia of them and launching attacks from Aitolia. Byzantion was forced into line as well.
Getai slowly advancing south, just got into a war with the Epeirotes.
And now, at last, the Senate and People of Rome. Well, the Red Flood has flooded some more, and breached the Pyreenes. Utterly pwned the Gauls. Are at war since attacking Numantia, triggering the Luso-Arevaci alliance and the appearance of Moskon. Poor fella that.
The Luso blitzed the Iberian coast before the Carthies could do anything but shout Unfair! and complain about the massive loses in trade.
Now alost entirely united Germans did some more uniting and Keltoi butt-kicking while the Casse are stuck.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/231BC.jpg
231 BC
Only 6 years have passed, and some might think I should have waited a couple of years. But I say neigh, for this year, 231 BC, is any very important one. This year, is when the tide turns. It´s the silence before the storm. After tihs year, the world will never be the same again.
Enough shitting around, and lets get to the point.
Baktria took the very heart of the old Persian empire, Persepolis. But, things were much more dire for the Seleukids than they might appear. For this very year, a full stack of elite Baktrian troops were marching into the mountains of Elymais, on the road to Susa, where the Seleukid court resided.
The city was weakly garrisoned, as was the Seleukid heartland of Babylonia that lies beyond it. Had the Baktrians taken the city, the whole of Arche Seleukeia would surely have been at risk.
But, faith would not have it so. On a cold winter morning, a few miles east of Susa, the Seleukid army under Antiochos Theodotos Syriakos utterly crushed the Baktrians, in an epic battle. While just as many cities and towns still remained under Baktrian control, with this one battle, the tide had turned. The Baktrians had lost the initiative, now it was time for the Seleukids to show their power.
And so they did.
In other news, the Saka-Rauka suddenly emerged as the richest faction in the game. Jawdrop indeed.
I guess all those years doing nothing and keeping nearly no garrisons except FM´s finally payed off. Good for them.
Pahlava are still doing jack shit. But, they´re about to pay for that grave mistake.
Might not look like it, but the Ptolies are still mainly occupied fighting Sab´yn and Eleutheroi up the Nile and over that huge strip of desert the Ptolies claimed for themselves.
The Hai finally attacked and took Dayhu Siraca, but two attacks in less than 5 years against Maeotis were utterly crushed by the great (and immensely old) Sauromatae warlord Eunones.
I got annoyed at having Eleutheroi as my neighbours, every saturday they´d play really loud techno until 3 o´clock. So I invaded them, and I´m now busy civilizing them. First step, throw all techno into the Pontus Euxine.
Maks took back Ionia, but back in Hellas things are really getting interesting. 233 BC an Epeirote army won a crushing victory outside the very walls of Athenai, and the Antigonids looked pretty screwed. But for some reason the Epeirotes failed to take advantage of this golden opportunity, instead retreating back to Aitolia. This was to prove their undoing. Two years later, 231 BC, the same army bolstered with Illyrian reinforcements, crossed from Aitolia onto the Peloponnesos. But here they faced a Antigonid army, which utterly crushed the Epeirotes.
The Antigonids are just about to take advantage of this great victory.
Oh right, the Eps took Odrysai and are fighting the Getai.
The Red Flood finally breached the Alpic dam, with a vengeance. But in the west the Luso´s are pushing them back, in short order taking Lacetania, Volcallra and Massilia, but somehow forgetting Celtiberia.
After the Luso´s pushed the Red Flood back some Roman towns revolted back to the grateful Aedui, who surely needed them.
Sweboz and Casse are stuck.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/222BC.jpg
222 BC
The Seleukids got their act togheter and overran the overextended Baktrians, even taking their capital. While at it, they also took Gedrosia and Arachosia, though the later revolted to Pahlava.
Further west they´ve now seriously started attacking me, but I´ve been able to survive so far.
Ptolies still (will it never end?) fightin Sab´yn. Marched so many men up the Nile that they completely missed it when Side went over to the KH.
The Maks xploded and seriously massacred the Epeirotes. The green fellas got pretty much no armies left what so ever. Poor sods.
The saddest of all is that 225 the Getai were trying to invade Makedonia through Dardanoia, but the last Epeirote army defeated them in the mountain pass north of Pella (Famous Battle marker and everything). Two turns later the weakened Epeirote army is defeated by the Maks and Pella falls after another 2 turns. I´d like to think that the last coherent act of the Epeirotes before they fell apart to nothing but scattered armies despereatly trying to survive, was to save Makedonia and indeed all of Hellas from a terrible Thrakioi invasion to match that of Brennus so many years ago.
It´s a beautiful thought.
Apart from their attempted southward expansion, the Getai also advanced north, taking both Skythia and subjugating the Bastarnae. For a while at least.
While so occupied with other matters, they managed to lose Mikra Skythia to the Commercialist Powers of Rhodos © and Greater Capitalist Asia © (CPR-GRA).
The Luso´s and Romans are caught in a bit of a stalemate, cities going back and forth, and the Massaliotai one week using soap, next not, one week growing huge bushy beards, next walking around clean-shaven. It was a very confusing time for everyone.
The Aedui took advantage of all confusion and took some towns, as well as finally defeating the Arverni Confederation, but the old tradition of the God-King lives on in Galatia, for the moment at least.
The Carthies finally after hundreds of years of conflict managed to conquer Syrakousai in 223 BC, poor old Hieron was killed in the fighting togheter with his relative Archimedes, who was unfortunately hit by a stray arrow while carrying a supposedly golden crown on the way to his afternoon bath.
The Sweboz finally managed to unite all but the eastmost Germanic tribes, and can now focus on the Gauls. The Casse finally took the sunny beaches of Cornovae.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/211BC.jpg
211 BC
Did someone say blitzkrieg?
The Sele´s took Kophen, but in return the Baktrians got back their capital, if only for a while.
In a 3 year campaign the Seleukids totally annihilate the Pahlava.
The swift and unexpected Seleukid conquests have led to a series of unorganised rebellions from their rule, but in Arachosia a noble family of local rulers have risen to power and they seem determined to stay free from Seleukid rule (yeah, I mixed with the files to change Pahlava´s name and colour).
The Seleukids finally defeated the Galatian tribes, forever destroying the tradition of the God-King.
Under Megas Antiochus III, they had also conquered the westmost of India, but a pact of friendship had been negotiated with the Mauryan emperor Salisuka, and no invasion was to be expected from there.
They´ve also intensified their attacks against the prospering and peaceful kingdom of Pontos, but its valiant citizens hold firm under the noble leadership of the great descendants of Mithridates Ktistes.
The Ptolies still cannot secure the Upmost Nile nor the Huge Strip of Worthless Sand (HSWS) and were it not for their immense riches they would be the laughing stock of the entire ancient... I mean present, world.
The Maks XPLODED (as in contrast to the less dramatic xploded and even less dramatic exploded) and not only forever destroyed the Epeirotes, but pretty much defeated the Getai as well and forced them into a protectorate. The Bastarne who have broken free from the Getai are still opposing them though.
Bithynia revolted from the Seleukids to Getai, but that didn´t last long.
The Carthies however, XPLODED!!!!!! (as opposed to the less dramatic XPLODED, xploded or exploded)
Seriously. Whoever is controlling the Carthies, Hannibal could stand to learn a thing or two from him.
The Romans got überpwned but survive as some sort of Alpic-Pannonian Confederation of Romans (APCR).
Lost Pannonia Illyrica to revolt.
With the Romans gone the Luso´s gathered up the pieces and consolidated, but it was not to last. With the Romans still holding on in Venetia and with Consular armies just a few weeks arch from Italia, the Carthies decided to start a new war. Or actually, two new wars. First they took Liguria from the Luso, and then Insubramrog from the Aedui, but lost it to Luso´s.
In all the excitment Bastetania revolted to the Carthies, opening up a second front in the great Second Carthie-Luso war.
The Sweboz are finally really pushing into Gaul, and are looking strong. The Casse exploded (as opposed to all other forms of the word) and kicked the Scottish and Irish´s butts.
I think the Casse Invasion script failed though, since I never spotted an army, and they continued to be at peace with both Sweboz and Aedui. Might have to move a Casse army over the channel.
https://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee276/GeneralAppo/204BC.jpg
The descendants of Theodotos were finally defeated and all the eastern satrapies subjugated. Sogdiane fell to the Saka confederation, but given how rebellious the Sogdians were and the good relations between the Seleukids and Saka´s, Antiochos could live with it.
Saka´s just attacked and destroyed a small Sauro army on Sauro territory, and seeing how weak the Sauro´s are up there in the northeast, the Saka´s could very well overrun those territories.
Gandhara was conquered, and Arachosia almost subdued, but the locals just managed to save their capital Alexandropolis from conquest and drive the Seleukids from their land, their famous light cavalry greatly aiding in the battles.
The Maks had a short war with the Romans and took Scorcouw from them, they´re a peace now however. Sadly the Maks seem determined to take Pontos for their themselves, and I´ve had to fight of several large Makedonian attacks. A pity, as I hate having to stop the AI´s expansion like that, but I can´t very well let myself be destroyed.
Further south in Mikra Asia the Seleukids finally defeated Greater Capitalist Asia ©, leaving the Commercialist Powers of Rhodos with just the Cimmerian Bosporus Corporation © as ally (CPR-CBC). Rumours abound claim that any partner of the CPR is doomed to bankrupcy, as shown by the collapse of the GCA, Mainland Hellas © and the Mikra Skythia Investment Group © (MSIG)
Claims such as these and that CPR has been trading inside information with the Arche Seleukeia © are fiercely denied by CPR spokesmen and lobbyists.
The Carthies are giving proof to the value of a strong navy. Seeing as they can barely train even the weakest levies in their conquered territories, their forced to ship their armies from Africa, Lilibeo and Sardin. The fact that despite this they´ve managed to push back the Luso´s and almost annihilate the Aedui does them great credit. They even surprise landed a stack in Turdetania and took that region. Now most of the Luso armies heading for the Gallic frontier are redirected to the newly opened front. With two fronts to fight one, this makes sure that they Luso´s are neither strong enough to really drive the Carthies from the Iberian coast, nor strong enough to take advantage of the Carthies northern adventures in upper Gaul.
Who ever is leading the Carthies almost deserves the I in AI.
Sweboz pushed their way into Gaul with the help of the Carthies. They´re still at peace with each other, but seeing as the Sweboz are allied to the remnants of Roma, Carthaginian Gaul would be the most logical next step of expansion for them.
Unless of course they continue on their recently started campaign against the Slavs that so successfully yielded them Neurije.
Well, that´s as far as I´ve played so far, I´ll be sure to get back once I´ve advanced further into history.
In my recent Casse campaign I have been trying to help Carthage along by giving them shit loads of mnai, but they still won't do anything.
General Appo
10-04-2008, 08:06
Sometimes, you´ve just gotta wait for them go get ready on their own. Money is seldom a problem for the Carthies anyway.
Olaf The Great
10-04-2008, 16:07
Sometimes, you´ve just gotta wait for them go get ready on their own. Money is seldom a problem for the Carthies anyway.
If and when the Carthies get Italia, and get into a war with some Gaul Power, it's pretty inevitable what happens. Same with Lusotannan.
Also, I always found it odd about the Mainland Greece situation.
First the epeirotes take Pella and some Northern Greek settlements.
The Maks may or may not take some Anatolian possesions.
And if the Maks don't the KH does.
Then around the 230's one of the Greek powers takes the entire Peninsula. Sometimes the Epeirotes use their power to crush the Getai, KH, and Mak. Sometimes the Maks reemerge and take Sparta and Athens and finally all of Epeiros and Pella. And rarely KH takes advantage of the situation and takes all of Greece and Western Anatolia(Which is what happened in my game, which I can't show because my computer went insane.
Playing as Romani (BI.exe, M/VH)
245BC
https://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2221/245bcbt4.jpg
Saka and Ptolemaio are doing well, Hayasdan has not conquered any settlements.
236BC
https://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1159/236bcvf3.jpg
Makedonians have only one settlement left, Hayasdan seems to be very peaceful nation.
228BC
https://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7393/228bcjk3.jpg
Hayasdan finally took a settlement, Makedonia is now my protectorate.
218BC
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7053/218bcho9.jpg
The mighty Carthaginians have been destroyed, Lusotannan became my protectorate. Seleukid empire will soon crumble to dust.
Nice Baktrian and Sakae expansion there.
Onehandstan
10-04-2008, 21:53
My Casse campaign has resulted in carthage taking most of the italian peninsula (up to arretium!) and lusotana have kicked the carthaginians out of iberia and then proceeded to conquer all of gaul. The romans should be renamed the Alpine-Italics because they are just left with the alps and northern Italy... also, ptlomies only have 2 provinces and makedon killed eperotes and kicked koinon out of greece a long time ago (currently at 210 BC)
WonkoTheSane
10-05-2008, 01:25
Romani, 217 BC
https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/1589/rometw2008100502002013ww4.jpg (https://imageshack.us)
Aedui: At war with me, only have three provinces left
Averni: My allies against the Aedui, but they haven't made an attempt to expand yet
Arche Seleukeia: Almost destroyed by Pahlava and Ptolemaioi, only have one province in India left
Baktria: Expanding northwards, destroying the Saka
Casse: Conquered the British Isles, but no Naval Script yet
Epeiros: Crushed by Makedonia
Getai: Protectorate of Makedonia, fighting the Sauromatae
Hayasdan: Holding out against the Yellow Death
Qarthadastim: Expanding in Iberia, fighting against Ptolemaioi
KH: Only have Rhodos and Krete left
Luso: Being crushed by the Qarthadastim
Makedonia: Destroyed Epeiros and are now attacking me
Pahlava: Doing well, have almost completely wiped out the AS
Pontos: Dead
Ptolemaioi: Yellow Death
Saba: Fighting against Ptolemaioi
Saka: Being destroyed by Baktria
Sauromatae: Nothing special, fighting against Getai
Sweboz: Expanding eastwards
gamegeek2
10-07-2008, 11:36
Parthia is now much stronger
Sweboz go mainly east, not south (a bad thing, though I've seen healthy expansion in Epeiros campaign)
"Main Rival" always seems to be doing better than usual (AS sucks unless you're fighting it), and there's a reason for this
Nice Ptollies colour
Ibn-Khaldun
10-07-2008, 14:46
Playing Makedon M/M
Year 256
Playing with some house rules (rewarding myself with money after victories, using Force diplomacy and some others)
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/mak_progression1.jpg
Not much to see but I'm looking forward to see what happens with the Sauromatae.
They are currently winning war against Hayasdan. Having destroyed Hai Armies Sauromatae can easely take over their cities also since they have still two full stacks in Armenia. They lost Kotais due to rebellion but will conquer it back soon.
Also I like the size of Sweboz!
Onehandstan
10-14-2008, 18:21
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/onehandstan/RomeTW2008-10-1416-25-07-95-1.jpg
I'm playing as Casse,
Things to look at:
Makedonia
Lsotana!
Rome?(north-east italic kingdom)
Carthage
AS
Ptolemaioi
Hayasdan
This is actually out of date. Pontos are wiped out now.
penguinking
10-15-2008, 01:31
https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s192/onehandstan/RomeTW2008-10-1416-25-07-95-1.jpg
Nice lusotannan and carthaginian expansion. What year is that?
gamegeek2
10-15-2008, 03:41
http://www.upload2world.com/pic101/upload2world_98bf1.jpg
It's 225 BCE. That's me, the guy with the arrow pointing to him. Yo. I romped around Hellas and Thraikia for a while before taking the fight to the Romani. And playing on VH/M
The Big-Ass Ever-Growing Ptolemaic Empire- "We have crushed the Seleukids. Pahlava can deal with the rest while we profit!!!1!
Anatolian Empire - "Those Epeirotes took all our provinces - but Lesbos! The Lesbians (yes, the word comes from here, srsly) showed us what we were doing wrong. Then we shanked our allies, the Seleukids, and then did the same to Pontos. We've almost wiped the floor with the Hai, but they somehow hold on with a 2 fullstacks guarding their town.
The Brown Recluse - "We took South Arabia. Isn't that enough?"
Punix - "Every time Epeiros marches into Italia, we feel compelled by our constant allies, the Romans, to capture the settlements they have. Before, only one fullstack was necessary. Now, 3 are. Too bad they've already blown one up. Before now, we haven't done much except take Sicily, Southern Italia, and some Numidians."
The Gray, Near Death - "Waaah, Mommy!"
Pahlava - "Sup. Welcome to the Waste Land."
Getai - "Me AnD tHe EpEiRoTeS aRe BfF!"
The Baks - No comment.
Saka - "Praise the Lawds of the Steppes! Hallelujah! Amen."
Sauros - "All we ever do is fight Getai. Seems to stop either of us from expanding."
Sweboz - "Slow and steady wins the race. We like the Alps."
Casse - "Uh, who are you guys?"
Romani - "Oh, I'm gonna get those Epeirotes!"
KH - "We still have the Kolossos!"
Luso - "Damn Romans. Why are they bothering with us over Epeiros? What n00bs."
Onehandstan
10-16-2008, 16:59
Nice lusotannan and carthaginian expansion. What year is that?
about 208 BC
My Casse campaign on H/M
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2931392.png
260 bc
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2931400.png
255 bc
Pahlava is very impressive, they usually get grinded to dust with a minigun, but now they are a strong force. Also Pontos control the northern coast of Anatolia, they usually do nothing in my games.
I am planning to make this game an AAR, but i have to conquer the remaining Irish tribes first :hmg:
E: Problems with the pictures, wait a second till i fix this
Another edit: Nop, can't get the pictures to work, i tried to change the host and everything. Can anybody else see these pictures?
Ibn-Khaldun
10-19-2008, 10:20
No I can't see them..
Wasn't there some number of post that you had to post before you had the ability to .. post .. pictures?:inquisitive:
I think the rule applies only to your first post. And even then, you can't post the message at all if it has pictures or links. But i'll try to fix it again.
206BC
https://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2396/206bcxx4.png
(I've changed the colors of Hayasdan and Pontos)
Edit: Rome rom rom
General Appo
10-20-2008, 19:34
Nice progress. I´m going to assume that you are playing as Romani, but please inform us of your faction in every post. Avoids confusion.
Ignopotens
10-21-2008, 06:41
Just out of curiosity, what's the best AI Getai expansion you guys have seen? I love to play as them but I never seen them do a whole lot as AI.
Mediolanicus
10-21-2008, 14:02
I've seen them taking everything from Tanaïs and the Crimea to the Bastarnae province and all the way down to Byzantium and Bythinia.
They went as far north as they could against those spawning armies and took all the rest in between apart from the Dalmatian coastline, Epeiros and Makedonia.
Should have taken a screenshot when that happened.
The Getai were doing something similar in my campaign that was recently stopped by a CTD.
https://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/Miros_G/arverni235.jpg
Now I wonder with which faction to start a new campaign...
General Appo
10-21-2008, 19:03
Please mate, always say what faction you are playing as. I´m going to assume it´s Arverni this time.
johnhughthom
10-21-2008, 20:36
Please mate, always say what faction you are playing as. I´m going to assume it´s Arverni this time.
If he's not that would officially be the coolest AI expansion ever.
Mediolanicus
10-21-2008, 20:54
Please mate, always say what faction you are playing as. I´m going to assume it´s Arverni this time.
Yeah yeah, I was playing the Arverni, but since the post was about the Getai and since that campaign came to a halt, it was of little importance.
Rather tell me which faction to play now...
SwissBarbar
10-21-2008, 21:25
My current Roman Campaign (H/M):
https://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1395/unbenanntgb1.th.png (https://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unbenanntgb1.png)https://img376.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
As you can see the Ptolemaioi are as almost always acting as the yellow plague, consuming AS and even parts of the Carthagian Empire.
Pontos is surprisingly strong, keeping the Sauromatae under control as a Protectorate.
Saka an Baktria are not expanding anymore for quite a while, the same with the sabean, who suffer under the threat of mordor.. eh sorry, the ptolemaioi.
Macedonia fights against epeiros and is winnig, the getai can still hold their lands...so far
the Aedui and Averni are same as the Lusotannan disappeard in the roman empire. The Sweboz share their fate soon.
Me, playing as the Romani, am invading the Carthagian empire from 2 Sides. From Sicily with a Roman Army which conquerd Kart-Hadast and the City just a stone's throw in the North, whose Name i forgot, and from Iberia with an Army of Iberian Soldiers led by a Roman General.
Besides that i'm invading Britain. My 2 Armies of altogether 50'000 Men (in my Roleplay 1 Soldier = 10 Soldiers), led by 2 great Strateges of the Family, have already defeated in 3 great battles and some smaller combats the dreadful Armies of the Casse and slaughtered 120'000 fierce barbarian warriors (they had surprisingly many soldiers and even more suprisingly heavy ones!). The Roman forces too lost about 15'000 - 20'000men, mostly replaced by mercenaries from Britain and Northern Gaul.
Dodge_272
10-22-2008, 09:14
260 BCE
RTW 1.5
M/M
http://ourworld.cs.com/Carledwards15/260bc.jpg
My current Roman Campaign (H/M):
https://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1395/unbenanntgb1.th.png (https://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unbenanntgb1.png)https://img376.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
I hope that Pontos can make inroads into the Ptolies. Imagine all that purple-ish!
SwissBarbar
10-22-2008, 09:58
yeah, i hope so. they are my oldest and most faithful allies, wich is unquestionably a result of the fact, that their empire has no borderline with mine ;-)
Nonetheless i like pontos and i hope, that the war the ptolemaioi brought upon me will bother the yellow ones this much, that my pontic friends can win influence in the former territory of the Arche Seleukeia at the other side of the Ptolemaic Empire. Acutally i think, that my next campaign will be a pontic one
Ravenfeeder
10-25-2008, 22:10
Kart-Hadast, H/M, BI.exe moddeed so Silver is less valuable and Gold more valuable, so that Large and Small mines give different values.
260BC
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast260.jpg
250BC
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast250.jpg
240BC
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast240.jpg
230BC
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast230.jpg
220BC
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast220.jpg
Alpine provinces a gift to the Aedui from me as part of one of the peace treaties with the Romans (which, like all the others they broke almost instantly, resulting in their destruction).
Ptolemaioi not taking Mesopotamia is interesting. I put it down to the revolt of Palmyra and the full garrison that has constantly remained there. Pontos slow but steady growth also of interest.
General Appo
10-25-2008, 23:50
Yeah, the Sab´yn can really stop the Ptolies dead in their tracks, often much more so than the Sele´s. Perhaps the Pahlava can take advantage of this and get to Babylonia first. Would be really nice to see.
The_Brittunculi
10-29-2008, 05:22
https://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4602/mapap7.png
Casse, 226 BC H/VH. One of the interesting things that I've managed to do in this campaign is bribe a couple small Koinon Hellenon armies in far-off Greece and then use them to take and sack Sparta and the city south of Pella once they were under-defended. I destroyed all the buildings I could in these two cities then gave them to Rome. The KH seem to be doing really well in Asia now that they have less to worry about in Greece.
The Arverni are in Germania because I invaded it from Scandinavia, then I started losing and gave them the land I had south of Denmark to stop the Sweboz from counter-invading Scandinavia.
I like the Carthaginians so I bribed a small Roman army and took Massilia (sp?) from the Romans when it was underdefended and then gave it to Carthage. I think this also stopped the Romans from taking over Gaul too fast.
Besides this, Epeiros is doing really well and the Hayasdan have split the Sarmatians in half as is what usually happens in my campaigns. I'll post more if anything interesting happens.
Also this is my first post in a long time! I've been reading this forum for about a month now but I forgot I had an account here. :)
SwissBarbar
10-29-2008, 08:54
very interesting what epeiros and KH are doing there... especially KH, who mosty get eaten by Macedonia or Epeiros in my campaigns
General Appo
10-29-2008, 09:24
That is undoubtly the most exciting KH expansion I have ever seen.
Dodge_272
10-29-2008, 12:38
230 BC
M/M
http://ourworld.cs.com/Carledwards15/230bcv2.jpg
SwissBarbar
10-29-2008, 13:19
guess you are rome?
very nice map. sakas very strong, Baktria quite weak.
Dodge_272
10-29-2008, 13:23
Yes I am Rome, at war with Pontus, Greece and Spain currently having beaten Macedonia, Carthage, Epirus and Gaul in previous wars.
I got really bored and went a bit mad on MS paint though. :beam:
This is the proper screenshot
http://ourworld.cs.com/Carledwards15/230bc.jpg
General Appo
10-30-2008, 01:08
Love the Sakas. Havn´t seen them so far south in quite a while.
penguinking
10-30-2008, 04:38
Casse, VH/M
262
https://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/White_Lion_photo/WorldMapCasse262-1.jpg
245
https://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/White_Lion_photo/WorldMapCasse244-1.jpg
235 BC
https://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/White_Lion_photo/WorldMapCasse235-1.jpg
225 BC
https://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/White_Lion_photo/WorldMapCasse225-1.jpg
215 BC
https://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/White_Lion_photo/WorldMapCasse213-1.jpg
Some interesting expansion going on in this campaign.
Pontos did very well. This is the first time I've ever seen them capture Seleukia. Sadly Pontos is now under decline and falling to the AS. The AS lost the western half of its empire and is slowly reconquering it. Baktria was a protectorate of Saka for a long time until the AS crushed their last city. Pahlava was overwhelmed by the AS. The Ptolemies are struggling to deal with Saba. Epeiros rushed north as far as Scythia but wasted all their armies fighting Eleutheroi and were gutted by Macedon from the south. Macedon has both Pontos and Getai as protectorates. Carthage did very little for decades until it declared war on my allies, the Lusotannan. Of course, the Casse warriors crushed Carthage's armies and saved the Lusotannan, who repaid the Casse's kindness by betraying them. They were annihilated.
206 BC; Mak campaign; ED 1.1x
https://i36.tinypic.com/n30qxg.jpg
General Appo
10-30-2008, 17:37
WTF?!!?!!?!!?!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!!?!?!?
Did you put the Saka in Gedrosia? If not, this is the greatest moment in AI progression ever!!
OMGOMOGMGOGOMGOGMOGOGOGOGOGMOGOGGOGGOMGOGOGOGMOGMOGMOGMOGMOGOG!
SwissBarbar
10-30-2008, 18:26
thats the saba, not the saka
johnhughthom
10-30-2008, 18:44
and it probably just rebelled to them.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
10-30-2008, 19:04
Some nice things there, penguinking. What armies do the Makedonians field in your campaign?
penguinking
10-30-2008, 23:44
Some nice things there, penguinking. What armies do the Makedonians field in your campaign?
I'm actually pretty happy with Makedon's armies. The average full stack is something like this:
-3 units Makedonian reformed phalanx
-4 units Thracian Light Spearmen
-2 units elite phalanx
-3 units classical hoplites
-2 units companion cavalry or Thessalian heavy cavalry
-1 unit elite peltasts
-the rest are levies.
They have something like 5 of those stacks in Scythia.
The interesting thing is that the garrisons in Greece and Macedonia are almost entirely elite phalanx. The garrison is Demetria, the capitol, is 7 units of Argyraspides.
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
10-31-2008, 00:04
Thx, that's not so bad at all. :smiley:
General Appo
10-31-2008, 00:42
thats the saba, not the saka
Ooops, I meant Saba. But still, since when does Gedrosia rebel to Saba? Or has it always done that?
machinor
10-31-2008, 01:11
You're right. In my Baktria campaigns Gedrosia usually rebels to Parthia.
sometimes the Sabeans do a naval invasion (if you're using BI), I fought a couple of stacks of cheap infantry back in my Pahlava game in 1.0
Maion Maroneios
11-01-2008, 16:25
Here is an edited map reflecting the AI expansion in my current Makedonian campaign. I haven't used FD at all yet, but I've been giving big amounts of mnai to the Eleutheroi and occasionally to the Parthians. The year is 258BC.
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/11/1/t_ebmapm_cf3c757.gif (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/1/f_ebmapm_cf3c757.gif&srv=img03)
Faction colors aren't the real ones, but you get the idea.
Maion
Tellos Athenaios
11-01-2008, 16:55
sometimes the Sabeans do a naval invasion (if you're using BI), I fought a couple of stacks of cheap infantry back in my Pahlava game in 1.0
There are other more trivial explanations, though:
(a) A Saba diplomat with an itch passed by;
(b) A wandering Saba armed expedition passed by and thought 'our new home!'. We've seen the Saba marching onto Persepolis before...
General Appo
11-01-2008, 17:11
Here is an edited map reflecting the AI expansion in my current Makedonian campaign. I haven't used FD at all yet, but I've been giving big amounts of mnai to the Eleutheroi and occasionally to the Parthians. The year is 258BC.
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/3/11/1/t_ebmapm_cf3c757.gif (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/11/1/f_ebmapm_cf3c757.gif&srv=img03)
Faction colors aren't the real ones, but you get the idea.
Maion
Afraid I can´t see your pic. Btw, why do you use picoodle.
Maion Maroneios
11-01-2008, 18:36
Well, why shouldn't I?
Maion
Centurio Nixalsverdrus
11-01-2008, 19:43
Afraid I can´t see your pic.
I can't see it either.
General Appo
11-01-2008, 22:32
Afraid I can´t see your pic.
I can't see it either.
Well, why shouldn't I?
That´s why.
Tellos Athenaios
11-01-2008, 22:39
I can? :inquisitive: -> :shrug:
Maion Maroneios
11-01-2008, 23:22
Here, that's what I mean. I post every single pic of my AAR with picoodle and I got no problem...
Maion
Bah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Things are finaly looking better.
I have FINALY, after maybe five stacks, a stronghold in Greece. Those Macs and and Epiros were touger than I thought. :P But now things are goin better. I once held both pella and the city under it, but lost them both before I could regroup in the south and receive lots of reinforcements.
http://pici.se/pictures/Sqtzopylq.jpg
How it happened:
After conquering Italy I concentrated on Greece.
At first I was only meant to attack Epiros. So I build two armies, with heavy siege equipment and elephants, so they were quit expensive even though I had few elite units.
I attacked Epiros homeland and all was well. When both cities where taken, one army marched north against the illyrian towns (owned by epiros), the other stayed.
This is when the macs attacked and things went crazy. :help::dizzy2:
It became a two way war. :oops: My army that marched north was attacked by a strong epiros army of twice the size, I lost the battle and retreated to my boats. The army that was left in Epiros was attacked by a strong Mac army. But I won the battle, and decided to march against Pella (attack is the best defence lol:P).
During the time I was shipping reinforcements to my army that lost in the north. And soon the army could continue against the epiros towns. But the epiros fought bravely and I took heavy casualties while only managing to to take one town(the one direcly north of epiros homeland). I tried to march against Pella to help my other army, but the general went sick:furious3:. Slowing me alot. After many turns I got to the city NORTH of Pella, attacked it, got my general killed in the battled:furious3:, but managed to take the city:juggle2:, only to get stuck there. My army was too small at this point to do anything.
During the time my army who marched against Pella got in trouble. I was able to conquer Pella fairly easy. But two black stacks emerged. We fought, they won, I ran south, sacked the city north of Pella, continued south, captured Athen, got stuck there too.
At this point in time I had managed to get the war machine goin, and armies where being produced everywhere. My italic cites, my Iberian towns and my African holdings, everyone contributed.
But thanks to assassinations, lost fleets and battles, bad luck and tons of enemies, it isnt until now I feel I have a chance of winning.
Most epic game ever :D
239BC as carhago.:2thumbsup:
Maion Maroneios
11-02-2008, 13:27
239BC as carhago.:2thumbsup:
We kinda figured that last part :-P
Maion
Ravenfeeder
11-02-2008, 19:23
Continuing Kart-Hadast Game from #467 above
210bc
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t31/ravenfeeder21/karthadast210.jpg
All Gallic gains against the Sweboz are courtesy of yours truly who sent an entirely Gallic force (mainly Nietos and Geasatae led by a Lesser King) against them.
AS almost gone. Pontic expansion is great but they are at war with Maks and Ptolemaioi so I don't fancy their chances.
Sapmi revolted from Hai to Sweboz control. Sabyn continue to be a thorn in the Pharoh's side.
Epic expansions Ravenfeeder. Lets just hope Ptolemoi dont get to strong now.
Any Casse invasion yet?
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