greek naval Invincibility

[neoiq5719]

Have this guys from EB done something to make the greek naval units invincible? At some point in the game lots of naval units popped up and i cant win any battles. Even i had one with 3 ships against 1 so it was 150 ppl versus 50 and it was crashing defeat. Was this done on purpose?

[-Praetor-]

It depends of a number of factors, like the quality of ships, experience, your admiral`s stars, etc.

You can`t expect to win if you face your 3 pentekonteroi against a single unit of pentereis...

[d'Arthez]

And it might be the case that you are running into a well-known problem. Naval battles are auto-calc. Thus your campaign difficulty may be the cause of the seemingly invincible ships.

[neoiq5719]

is the highest level

[beatoangelico]

at very hard naval battle are totally unpredictable since the AI gets massive bonuses, so you may see very odd results

[Megas Methuselah]

It's a very old RTW problem, and is not EB's fault in any way, whatsoever.

[Maion Maroneios]

at very hard naval battle are totally unpredictable since the AI gets massive bonuses, so you may see very odd results
Yep, that's why the EB team recommends VH/M for Christ's sake...:no:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Yep, that's why the EB team recommends VH/M for Christ's sake...:no:

...which doesn't apply at all to auto-Calc.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Which is why (among other reasons) it's totally OK if you play on difficulty settings other than VH for campaigns...

[Dooz]

I was playing my Roman campaign on M/M and was getting my ass handed to me by the Carthies at sea. It was really awesome.

At one point I spent a few years building up, what I thought, was a powerful fleet.... only to be crushed at the first battle against a single Carthy fleet of much more powerful ships.

They totally dominated the naval sphere, as they should, but eventually I snuck a couple of legions with a single fleet onto Africa and the rest, as they say, is history.

[d'Arthez]

In case of naval battles, the odds decide whether it is an auto_win attacker or defender for me. If the odds are 1:1, advantage attacker.

[Maion Maroneios]

...which doesn't apply at all to auto-Calc.
Then what is beatoangelico talking about?:inquisitive:

[LordCurlyton]

VH battle difficulty. A naval battle is still a battle, not a campaign deal. Ergo the M battle difficulty.

[Ludens]

Back in R:TW 1.0, autocalc outcome was determined by campaign difficulty, not battle difficulty. This may have been changed since then, though.

[Gaivs]

Naval battles are annoying. I autowin them if i know i should win, only because the ai is retarded it never does what it should.

[Maion Maroneios]

Another thing I've noted (I'm playing as Makedonia H/M) is that Lemboi are very good against every rebel ships, as well as the ones that cost 2.500 mnai (don't recall their name). They just have a lot of defence, but low attack. Anyway, I just use them in my campaign.

[Chris1959]

I noticed in v1.0 M/M that if I attacked I would lose or suffer higher losses even when I had the advantage, if I surrounded an enemy fleet and they attacked me I had far better comdat results especially against pirates.