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Myrddraal
05-11-2008, 17:28
"THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY (http://www.clipfish.de/player.php?

videoid=ODAyOTgxfDExMzk5ODM=)"


Click and watch, to get you in the mood :cowboy:






Based on the film (#4 in the top 250 of IMDb)


I could write a description of the setting, but I don't think I could do the film justice. If you've seen it, you'll understand, if you haven't, go watch it!


Warning Character descriptions include spoilers from the film. So if you haven't seen it, don't read the Character description, just read the role description.

Standard mafia rules apply, 'day' and 'night' phases alternate. During the day phases all players vote for one player to be lynched. That person dies and is removed from the game. During the night phase the various principal roles perform their night actions, which includes the mafia killing people. If you're not sure about the rules, ask :smile:

This is a role heavy game, as I believe in lots of minor roles (which don't affect the main game, but add a bit of flavour for the lucky roled players :wink:)

Principal roles
(the ones that really affect the game, I've put in brackets the common role that best fits the actual role).

Angel Eyes, The Bad (Mafia equivalent) x1
Cpl. Wallace, Henceman (Mafia supporter) x1
Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly (Serial killer) x1
Blondie, The Good (see below) x1
Sheriff (Detective) x1
Bounty Hunter (Vigilante) x2
Father Pablo Ramirez (Doctor) x1


I don't expect you all to read all the detail of each role, so here's the essential summary:

The game ends when:
The Bad and the Bounty Hunters are dead (Town victory)
OR The Bad and the Ugly are dead (Town victory)
OR The town runs out of townies (Town defeat).

There are potentially 3 kills per night phase, if all mafia, vigilantes, serial killers choose to kill.

For detail:

Angel Eyes, The Bad (Mafia equivalent)https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2663/thebadva1.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
The Bad, a ruthless, unfeeling mercenary named "Angel Eyes" Sentenza who kills anyone in his path. When Blondie and Tuco are captured while posing as Confederate soldiers, Angel Eyes is the Union sergeant who interrogates them and tortures Tuco, eventually learning the name of the cemetery where the gold is buried, but not the tombstone. Angel Eyes forms a fleeting partnership with Blondie, but Tuco and Blondie turn on Angel Eyes when they get their chance.


The Bad knows the identity of his henchman
Abilities:
1 Kill per night, 100% chance of killing any player.
Objectives:

Major Victory:
Kill everyone except his henchman
Survive
Anything else is a defeat
Cpl. Wallace, Henceman (Mafia supporter)https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3034/cplwallacebj5.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
A thuggish prison guard who works for Angel Eyes and tortures Tuco to get him to reveal the hidden location of the treasure. Angel Eyes turns Tuco over to Wallace so that he can turn Tuco in for the reward money; Tuco, however, kills Wallace by pushing him out of a moving train.


Knows the identity of the Bad.
Objectives:
Major Victory:
As for 'The Bad'
Minor Victory

Survive

Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly (Serial killer)https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1854/theuglyap2.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
The Ugly, Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, a comical, oafish, fast talking bandit who is wanted by the authorities. Tuco manages to discover the name of the cemetery where the gold is buried, but he doesn't know the name of the grave - only Blondie does. This state of affairs forces Tuco to become reluctant partners with Blondie, but greed has Tuco waiting for the first opportunity to betray Blondie.


Abilities:
1 Kill per night, 100% chance of killing any player.
Objectives:

Major Victory:
Kill the Bad
Kill the Bounty Hunters
Kill the Good
Survive
Minor Victory:

Survive
Bonus/Special Objective:

Keep Father Pablo (his brother) alive

Blondie, The Goodhttps://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3702/thegoodyf8.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
The Good, a subdued, cocksure bounty hunter who competes with Tuco and Angel Eyes to find the buried gold in the middle of the two warring factions of the American Civil War. Blondie and Tuco have an ambivalent partnership. Tuco knows the name of the cemetery where the gold is hidden, but Blondie knows the name of the grave where it's buried, forcing them to work together to find the treasure. In spite of this greedy quest, Blondie's pity for the dying soldiers in the chaotic carnage of the War is evident, and at the end of the day he doesn't want to kill Tuco, or deny him half the gold


Knows the identity of the Ugly.
Abilities:
Can save anyone the town elects to lynch
However, for the sake of balance, if both bounty hunters are dead he cannot save the same person twice in a row.
Objectives:

Major Victory:
Ensure The Ugly survives the game.
Lynch The Bad.
Survive
Anything else is a defeat
The Sheriff (Detective)https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/346/sheriffeo9.jpg

Character descriptions (Warning, spoilers):
Arrests Tuco

Abilities:
Selects one player to investigate each night.
His chances of a guilty result depend on who he's investigating:
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly appear Guilty
The Henchman has a 50% chance of appearing guilty
The Wanted Man has a 33% chance of appearing guilty

Objectives:

Major Victory:
Lynch the Bad
Survive
Minor Victory:

Ensure some of the town survive

Two Bounty Hunters (vigilantes)https://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4425/bountyhuntersps1.jpg

Character descriptions (Warning, spoilers):
Bounty Hunter 1: Wounded by Tuco in the films opening sequence, he loses his right arm. He seeks revenge, only to be killed by Tuco, leading to the line: "If you have to shoot, shoot! Don't talk.
Bounty Hunter 2: One of the ones killed in the first scene :wink:


The bounty hunters do not know each other's identities.
Abilities:
Each bounty hunter gets 1 attempted kill, every other night, on alternating nights.
However, the chance of success depends on the target:
Target = Townie: 100% success rate
Target = The Ugly: 100% success rate
Target = The Good:
33% chance of success
33% of missing
33% chance of dying
Target = The Bad:

0% chance of success
100% chance of dying

Objectives:

Major Victory:
Kill the Ugly (or get him killed)
Survive
Minor Victory:

Either survive, Or Kill the Ugly

Father Pablo Ramirez (Doctor)
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5545/fatherpablohv5.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
Tuco's brother, a Catholic friar. He holds Tuco in contempt for his choice of life as a bandit, but ultimately loves him. When Blondie is dying, Father Pablo and the Friars treat him (along with the wounded of the civil war)


Knows the identity of The Good, but not the ugly.
Abilities:
Selects one player to protect each night.
He cannot protect the same person twice in a row.
His chances of success depend on who is the agressor:
Agressor = The Bad: 50% success rate
Anyone else: 100% success rate

Objectives:

Major Victory:
Ensure the Ugly survives the game (and therefore lynch his enemies, the Bad and the Bounty Hunters)

Minor Victory:

Lynch the Bad


Minor (Townie) Roles
(Don't affect the main game [much :wink:])

Cowardly General Store ownerhttps://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7091/storeownernj3.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
A guiless general store keeper who gets robbed by Tuco. He allows Tuco to humilliate him totally before being robbed of all his money and a revolver.

Special:
If either the Bad or the Ugly target this player, instead of dying his life becomes under their control. The agressor can then send the store owner instructions through the host.
If the agressor is displeased with the store keeper's behavior, he can kill him at any time (including in daytime, in which case any vote cast does not count).
The store keeper can be 'owned' by both the Bad and the Ugly, in which case he could recieve instructions from both players. Pleasing both should be difficult though...
Objectives:
Major Victory:
Survive the game
All else is a defeat
Wanted Manhttps://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8832/wantedzb0.jpg

Character description
(not a character from the film)
He has a skeleton in his closet, but the Sheriff seems unaware of it.
However, he's heard there's a bounty hunter in town, and this worries him.

Objectives:
Major Victory:
Get both bounty hunters killed
Survive
Minor Victory
Survive
Union Captainhttps://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9873/unioncaptainhn0.jpg

Character description (Warning, spoilers):
A drunken Union captain who befriends Tuco and Blondie. He feels that the bloody siege his men are involved in is a futile waste, and dreams of destroying the bridge - a wish carried out by Blondie and Tuco. Mortally wounded in the Battle of Langstone Bridge, he dies just after hearing the bridge's destruction.

Bonus Objectives:
Get the Confederate Captain killed
Confederate Captainhttps://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8790/confederatecaptaincc0.jpg

Bonus Objectives:
Get the Union Captain killed

Secret Roles
Very important top secret roles
May or may not exist




SIGN UP NOW

EDIT: Sorry about the formating errors

Myrddraal
05-11-2008, 17:29
Signups so far: 14

Caius
shlin28
Ichigo
Andres
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen
Rythmic
makaikhaan
Sasaki Kojiro
Sarathos
{BHC}AntiWarmanCake88
woad&fangs
Tratorix

Caius
05-11-2008, 17:36
First,

shlin28
05-11-2008, 17:48
IN!

and please don't lynch me first round guys :furious3:

Csargo
05-11-2008, 20:15
:soapbox:

Andres
05-11-2008, 21:10
In. Activity will be low during Taormina though.

PershsNhpios
05-11-2008, 23:56
Yeah, I hope this fills up slowly to give Taormina a chance to blossom and wilt.

However I really like the sound of this Myrddraal, well thought out.

IN, please.

GeneralHankerchief
05-12-2008, 00:00
Well, since I died in Andres's game... :laugh4:

In!

-edit- I request that Morricone sound files be linked whenever there's a death scene to properly compliment the film's atmosphere.

pevergreen
05-12-2008, 00:57
:bow:

PershsNhpios
05-12-2008, 01:07
Damn, GH, you beat me to it!

"PEEEEOWNG!"

I read all of the rules and roles in full - I think this is the best Mafia theme I have seen yet - of course, under Capo II..

naut
05-12-2008, 03:18
In.

Csargo
05-12-2008, 03:25
The tab won't open. :sad:

seireikhaan
05-12-2008, 05:14
:charge:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-12-2008, 05:35
In.

Sarathos
05-12-2008, 08:24
Throw me In.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-12-2008, 18:21
Sign Me Up! :yes: :egypt: :clown:

woad&fangs
05-12-2008, 23:42
In :cowboy:

Tratorix
05-13-2008, 00:27
:yes:

Myrddraal
05-13-2008, 09:34
We technically have enough players now, but I'll leave it open just a little while longer for any late comers who want to join.

Sign up, it's now or never!

Mithrandir
05-13-2008, 16:33
In.

Myrddraal
05-13-2008, 17:18
Signups closed, PMs to be sent shortly.

Myrddraal
05-13-2008, 17:59
PMs are sent.

We start the game with a night phase

Send me your night actions!

Mithrandir
05-13-2008, 18:40
So many roles and Im just an innocent towny :(

...oh well, let's do some lynching.

pevergreen
05-13-2008, 23:32
I doubt you are innocent, but you might be townie.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
05-14-2008, 17:02
Hmmmmmmmm

Myrddraal
05-14-2008, 22:31
Morning, Day 1

The ravages of the Civil war had left many towns desolate, Ghost Towns.

https://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6538/image1bn6.jpg

In one such town Mithrandir had stopped from his travels to bathe and cook up some food in the privacy of abandonment. Little did he know that he was not alone; a man had been following his trail, and arrived in town just as Mithrandir was preparing to leave.

https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3397/image2fh7.jpg

Mithrandir took a swig from his bottle and walked to the door as he did up his belt, but before he could reach it, three bullets burst through the thin wooden planking and hit him in the chest. He was dead before he hit the ground.

https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1606/image3hg6.jpg

The door swung loudly open, revealing Mithrandir's executioner, who took two steps to stand over his body. Shaking his head gently, he spun on his heels, mounted up, and rode on.


OOC:

This time only I will tell you the role of the victim. Mithrandir was an innocent townie. {BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 has informed me that he can't continue to play, and so I am offering to Mith the chance to take his place in the game.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 22:33
Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Andres
05-14-2008, 22:50
Vote : Mithrandir

He's basically a zombie :shrug:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 22:53
unvote

I have a better idea, a question for everyone. What is your favorite drink?

Andres
05-14-2008, 22:57
unvote

I have a better idea, a question for everyone. What is your favorite drink?

If your question is for everyone, then why don't you answer it yourself first?

What is your favo(u)(?)rite drink Sasaki?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 23:01
If your question is for everyone, then why don't you answer it yourself first?

Because I already know the answer ~D

Not dodging the question are you?


What is your favo(u)(?)rite drink Sasaki?

I'm partial of Ezra Brooks.

seireikhaan
05-14-2008, 23:03
Hmm... favorite drink for me would have to be a nice 1784 Chateau Renoir.:toff:
Vote: Rythmic

Utterly random.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 23:05
Well that's a fancy french drink that wouldn't be the favorite of The bad or the ugly or a corporal. So I judge makaikhaan to be innocent.

woad&fangs
05-14-2008, 23:11
Vote: Sasaki Kojiro You can't trust a man who hides his face.

Favourite drink? Whatever's on hand... I'm not real picky.

Andres
05-14-2008, 23:27
Vote: Sasaki Kojiro You can't trust a man who hides his face.

Favourite drink? Whatever's on hand... I'm not real picky.

What are you insinuating? That this is my real face and that I'm not wearing a mask?

Unvote : Mithrandir
Vote : woad&fangs

Ezra Brooks? I prefer Highland Park 16. Allthough I like a good whisky, I prefer beer. Leffe Blonde or Ciney blonde are currently my favourites.

woad&fangs
05-14-2008, 23:31
Unvote: Sasaki: vote: Andres
You are obviously the Ugly

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 23:33
Leffe Blonde or Ciney blonde are currently my favourites.

So Andres is the Good...interesting.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-14-2008, 23:33
Unvote: Sasaki: vote: Andres
You are obviously the Ugly

You are clearly wrong! But you bring up an interesting point.

Andres
05-14-2008, 23:38
I didn't read anything about a drunk inquisitor... :inquisitive:

Unvote : woad&fangs; Vote : Sasaki Kojiro.

Sarathos
05-14-2008, 23:40
Well that's a fancy french drink that wouldn't be the favorite of The bad or the ugly or a corporal. So I judge makaikhaan to be innocent.
Its interesting that you have complete faith in makakhaan to tell the truth. What if he is lying and he favourite is actually 1956 Masi Amarone...?

I don't see how have a fancy favourite drink makes you innocent. Have such blind trust is really scummy because the mafia is the hunter and doesn't have to be such for anyone's innocence.

Vote:Sasaki

pevergreen
05-14-2008, 23:50
I prefer sunkist myself, when its invented.

Andres
05-14-2008, 23:53
I prefer sunkist myself, when its invented.

How do you know about sunkist if it's not invented yet?

Are you the time traveller?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 00:02
Its interesting that you have complete faith in makakhaan to tell the truth. What if he is lying and he favourite is actually 1956 Masi Amarone...?

I don't see how have a fancy favourite drink makes you innocent. Have such blind trust is really scummy because the mafia is the hunter and doesn't have to be such for anyone's innocence.

Vote:Sasaki

Now that's interesting. Joking about drinks aside, Sarathos appears to be making a serious accusation and wagoning to boot.

unvote,vote:Sarathos

Caius
05-15-2008, 00:18
Looks like only 1 person sent the order. I'd say that we should put our eyes in the ones who havent talked yet.

Csargo
05-15-2008, 01:14
Jack

GeneralHankerchief
05-15-2008, 01:57
Wow, I didn't realize how small this game was.

Vote: Glenn

Haven't seen him either here or in Taormina lately.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 02:05
I suppose that's dees enough

unvote,vote:Glenn

PershsNhpios
05-15-2008, 03:26
The truthful explanation is that I am on the other side of the world, which makes joining in hard enough without having to fit it around a couple of 13 hour working days.

Now, in comparison to playing style in Taormina - Sasaki is now disregarding and careless in all these frivolous accusations - and is quite willing to have anyone but Andres lynched.

There may be a tie between those two, and as far as this, "Blonde" thing goes - I think that was set up by Andres for Sasaki to find and make evidence from - probably because they are plotting in PM.

Then again, maybe not.

Speculative, WIFOM? It's nothing as ridiculous as what has been launched thus far.

Vote: Sasaki for an entire lack of temperance and resolve in comparison to his behaviour in Taormina.

pevergreen
05-15-2008, 03:28
Theres a time traveller? I havent seen the movie, so i dont know.

Csargo
05-15-2008, 03:30
Vote:GH

Because I heard he was a communist.

naut
05-15-2008, 03:34
Moonshine. ~;p

Random vote:

Vote: shlin28

GeneralHankerchief
05-15-2008, 03:39
What's a "communist"?

Unvote: Glenn
Vote: Tratorix

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 03:43
unvote: Glenn,vote:Tratorix

Yeah, what is a communist.

Csargo
05-15-2008, 04:04
It's a guy who...uh...kills people...yeah that's it. :idea:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 08:07
Sasaki(andres,Sarathos,Glenn)

Tratorix (GH, Sasaki)

rhythmic (khaan)

andres (W&F)

gh ( Ichigo)

shlin (rhythmic)

Myrddraal
05-15-2008, 08:16
I realise that I did not specify voting deadlines.

Voting ends 24 hours from now.

Andres
05-15-2008, 08:26
Unvote : Sasaki ; Vote : GeneralHankerchief

Ichigo said GH is a communist, communists kill people ergo GH is guilty.

:logic:

pevergreen
05-15-2008, 10:25
Vote: Abstain

Tired I am, abstain I must.

EDIT:

Unvote: Abstain, Vote: W&F

A hunch as of yet, a dirty feeling I sometimes get. I dont get it often. Only once or twice since Capo 1, at that point it was Sasaki...

Mithrandir
05-15-2008, 10:46
vote:Andres

Andres
05-15-2008, 10:56
vote:Andres

You don't have a favourite drink?

Do you like wodka? Are you a communist? Do you have Fidel Castro posters in your room?

shlin28
05-15-2008, 16:33
Havn't got time to write a lot, so I'll just vote pever cos my instinct said so.

Caius
05-15-2008, 16:46
You don't have a favourite drink?

Do you like wodka? Are you a communist? Do you have Fidel Castro posters in your room?
And there are a few ones of the Che too.
Vote:Andres

Random vote.

Myrddraal
05-15-2008, 17:01
Another thing I forgot to mention. Ties not broken by The Good will be resolved at random so that only one person is lynched.

Mithrandir
05-15-2008, 17:05
You don't have a favourite drink?

Do you like wodka? Are you a communist? Do you have Fidel Castro posters in your room?

I think hot cocoa would suit me.

shlin28
05-15-2008, 21:15
Now got more time to read this over... methinks Caius is suspicious, cos he third on bandwagon :inquisitive:

Awaiting more discussion before changing votes.

woad&fangs
05-15-2008, 22:30
I'll be gone for the next two days so I need to reapproach the way I'm playing this game.

I am the Union Captain. My bonus objective is to get the Confederate Captain killed. The Confederate Captain is Pevergreen. Vote: Pevergreen

If Tuco would kill Pevergreen tonight I'd appreciate it. In fact, if you kill Pevergreen tonight I will reimburse you with one free "favor" of your choice in a future mafia game. If you blow up a bridge in the process that would be pretty cool.

Hopefully I'll still be alive when I return.

Andres
05-15-2008, 22:32
Unvote; Vote : pevergreen

Self preservation, sorry.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 22:33
Huh, well that's two roles out of the way.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 22:34
Unvote; Vote : pevergreen

Self preservation, sorry.

You are voting for a townie. And don't we have quite a bit of time left?

Andres
05-15-2008, 22:38
You are voting for a townie. And don't we have quite a bit of time left?

I'm going to sleep within a couple of minutes. Will this round last for more then, let's say 10 hours? Won't be near a computer any sooner.

And the role description doesn't say that the captains know each other, so how would woad&fangs (and we) know for sure that pevergreen is a townie?

I know I'm pro-town, so it's only logical for me to lynch an unknown factor instead of getting myself lynched.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-15-2008, 22:46
That's how that role always works. You have an enemy and you know who they are.

If you were really pro town you would try to find an actual mafioso.

unvote,vote:andres

Andres
05-15-2008, 22:51
The role desciptions don't say that they know each other from the very start of the game, but I guess it would be kinda pointless to have an archenemy without knowing his identity.

Unvote : pevergreen; Vote : Caius

random votes are okay, but when your vote is the third vote for that player, you should give an explanation.

Good night all.

pevergreen
05-15-2008, 23:49
Following a discussion with pevergreen, I've decided to change your roles so that you know each other's identity.

pevergreen is the Confederate Captain
woad&fangs is the Union Captain.

Accordingly, I am also changing your victory conditions.

Your only objectives are to kill your opposite and to survive. How you do that is up to you.

I convinced him to let us know who each other are.

W&F, while what you are suggesting is not against any rules, I dont like the spirit which it is.

Revealing makes it that we will only be nightkilled.

I am going to help the town, since I cant get you lynched. You (IMO, if i was a host i would be thinking) you ruined the idea of the roles. The idea is to mislead the town to lynch me.

:no:

Unvote: W&F, Vote: Andres

Im a proven non mafia, at least.

woad&fangs
05-16-2008, 00:07
My role PM says to get you killed, it doesn't say how I'm supposed to do that.

WaRNING: below is my character description. It contains spoilers to the movie.
A drunken Union captain who befriends Tuco and Blondie. He feels that the bloody siege his men are involved in is a futile waste, and dreams of destroying the bridge - a wish carried out by Blondie and Tuco. Mortally wounded in the Battle of Langstone Bridge, he dies just after hearing the bridge's destruction.

I don't see how asking for Tuco's help to kill you conflicts with my character's description.

Myrddraal
05-16-2008, 08:19
Voting closed

Please wait for the conclusion of this phase :cowboy:

Tally:

Andres - 4 (Sasaki, Caius, Mithrandir, pevergreen)
pevergreen - 2 (shlin28, woad&fangs)
Sasaki Kojiro - 2 (Sarathos, Glenn)
Caius - 1 (Andres)
GeneralHankerchief - 1 (Ichigo)
Rythmic - 1 (makaikhaan)
shlin28 - 1 (Rythmic)
Tratorix - 1 (General Hankerchief)

Myrddraal
05-16-2008, 12:54
Mithrandir I's body was soon discovered, and in a neighboring town (if it could be called that, only a few houses gathered around a well) the Sheriff had received many an accusation. Most of them were petty bitter accusations made by one rival of another, but there was a trend; four people had identified Andres as the killer, and the Sheriff had not hesitated to bring him into the cells. The penalty for murder, is death by hanging.

Now the inhabitants were gathered to see justice done.


https://img229.imageshack.us/img229/467/hanging1je8.jpg

"The condemned, standing before us... sitting before us... Andres... has been found guilty by trial by his peers of Murder"

The gathering crowd were anxious to see him hang...
"Glad they got him. A man guilty of all those crimes!"
But one mysterious man had a wry smile on his face...
"People with ropes around their necks don't always hang."
"What do you mean?"
"Even a man like that has a protecting angel... A golden-haired angel watches over him."

"we condemn him to be hung by the neck until dead.
May the Lord have mercy on his soul. Proceed."

But as the whip was raised to spur away the horse. Shots rang out across the the town.


https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4563/hanging2cn7.jpg


https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5433/hanging3nd4.jpg


https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6376/hanging4at1.jpg

Hats flew from heads and shots removed them with pinpoint precession. One shot broke the cord, and Andres dug his heels in deep, riding out of town. His mysterious saviour soon followed.

Myrddraal
05-16-2008, 12:55
Send your night orders.

Andres
05-16-2008, 14:04
:sweatdrop:

That was close...

Mithrandir
05-16-2008, 14:11
How does the ugly/ the good thing works?

the good can't win, because the ugly has to kill him... right?

Myrddraal
05-16-2008, 17:19
Both the Good and the Ugly can be alive at the end of the game


The game ends when:
The Bad and the Bounty Hunters are dead (Town victory)
OR The Bad and the Ugly are dead (Town victory)
OR The town runs out of townies (Town defeat).

In case 1, the Good achieves a major victory, the Town achieves a victory, the Ugly only gets a minor victory and the Bad and Bounty hunters are defeated.
In case 2, the Good, the Bad and the Ugly get a defeated, the Town achieves a victory, and the Bounty hunters achieve a major victory (if they're still alive).
In case 3, only one of the Bad or the Ugly can win, depending on who's the last man standing.

Night phase ends at 12:55 GMT tomorrow.

shlin28
05-16-2008, 20:06
Okay... having done a re-reread, I got a question, why is Mithrandir still alive? Didn't he get killed? :inquisitive: Or is the host keeping him alive?

Mithrandir
05-16-2008, 20:25
Yes, I have been assiged the divine god role. I can kill any number of people anytime and am immune to attacks. I know all the roles and tell the host how to run the game.

I tell Tosa how to run the Org and am even so divine thanks to this game that I've invented moist toiletpaper.

GeneralHankerchief
05-16-2008, 20:28
I should have known that was going to happen.

Andres
05-16-2008, 20:31
that I've invented moist toiletpaper.

I thought real camel riders used sand?

Caius
05-16-2008, 20:35
Camel riders were the first one to run away. That tactic is teh most shamefully and used when they get to see the enemy. They didnt invent toiletepaper

Myrddraal
05-16-2008, 20:56
Ok, Mithrandir was killed on the first night. However, {BHC} had to drop out and so I let Mithrandir play on in his place.

Sarathos
05-17-2008, 10:21
Ok, Mithrandir was killed on the first night. However, {BHC} had to drop out and so I let Mithrandir play on in his place.
Yeah its kinda confusing, Mithrandir is dead and then alive again. I think this time period is a little early for necromancers.

pevergreen
05-17-2008, 11:43
Wow sarathos, a replacement :wink:

Myrddraal
05-17-2008, 12:45
Night phase is over. Sorry for the slight delay, write up to come.

Sarathos
05-18-2008, 02:30
Wow sarathos, a replacement
He's not a replacement, he is a substitute.

Myrddraal
05-19-2008, 08:39
Sorry for the delay again. I'm afraid I don't have time right now for a proper write up. I'll compensate with a great one later.

Night 2 results:
Ichigo is killed
khaan is killed
Andres is killed

Vote now!

Killed:
{BHC}AntiWarmanCake88
Ichigo
Andres
makaikhaan

Lynched
none

Still alive:
Caius
shlin28
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen
Rythmic
Sasaki Kojiro
Sarathos
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Mithrandir

seireikhaan
05-19-2008, 08:55
:furious3:

pevergreen
05-19-2008, 10:45
I bet Mith is happy Andres is dead :laugh4:

Vote: W&F

I can only guess that the mafia dont like your offer. However, you may have to do something for them this game for them to kill me.

Andres
05-19-2008, 11:55
Interesting kills. Very interesting.

shlin28
05-19-2008, 16:23
Crossing people off my list of suspicion:

Still alive:
Caius
shlin28 - Me :yes:
Glenn - No posts on the org for 3 days
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen - Captain
Rythmic
Sasaki Kojiro
Sarathos
woad&fangs - Captain
Tratorix

I shall randomly pick Sasaki as my target :shame: Vote Sasaki

Caius
05-19-2008, 16:45
Mith should appear in the alive list.

GeneralHankerchief
05-19-2008, 20:15
We need everybody to be more active. Unfortunately, with the small amount of players and continued presence of Taormina, this isn't the case. pever and W&F are off the suspect list as they've claimed the minor, nonthreatening Captain roles. Naturally, they should be left alone.

Ordinarily, I'd suggest a lynch for one of them to get the other focused on helping the town out, but we don't have enough players to spare to that.

Usually in low-activity games it's a mafia walkover, with the guilty ones directing discussion. Problem is, right now, nobody seems to do that, just delivering one-liners and then departing.

Vote: Abstain

Depending on how the round goes, my vote will eventually land on a lurker or someone who I think is guilty.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-19-2008, 20:23
Vote:Rhythmic lurker.

Andres
05-19-2008, 20:24
Usually in low-activity games it's a mafia walkover, with the guilty ones directing discussion.

Hmmm... :inquisitive:

What were you up to last night GH?

Why aren't we all revealing our roles? After all, only the Bad and the Ugly have something to hide...

Mithrandir
05-19-2008, 20:31
My post about my favorite drink should give you an inication :laugh4:

GeneralHankerchief
05-19-2008, 20:48
Yeah, I was waiting for someone to point that irony out. :laugh4: It worked though. 3 posts in the span of 10 minutes.

Anyway, I'm just an innocent townie - good luck!

Csargo
05-19-2008, 20:58
Death awaits me in all games I play :shame:

Mithrandir
05-19-2008, 21:07
Vote: Traitorix name says it all ;)

GeneralHankerchief
05-19-2008, 21:09
Vote: Traitorix name says it all ;)

3 kills last night, but he hasn't logged in for 4 days. I think we can safely discount him.

Actually, now I'm wondering why shlin didn't include that on his list. He got Glenn, after all.

shlin28
05-19-2008, 21:20
Sorry, forgot to check all of the people's active list, I only checked Glenn cos that's the only person who I have not seen posts of...

Da list

Still alive:
Caius
shlin28 - Me :yes:
Glenn - No posts on the org for 3 days
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen - Captain
Rythmic
Sasaki Kojiro
Sarathos
woad&fangs - Captain
Tratorix - inactive... says GH

That leaves:

Caius - has voted/talked
shlin28 - has voted/talked + me :yes:
GeneralHankerchief - has voted/talked
Rythmic - LURKERZ!!!
Sasaki Kojiro - has voted/talked
Sarathos - was online after the night write-up, so... LURKERZ!!!

Unvote Sasaki, Vote Abstain, I can wait for discussion :book:

woad&fangs
05-19-2008, 22:10
Vote: peverpink

Now, if you're actually looking for the bad and the ugly, then Shlins list is a good place to start.

shlin28
05-19-2008, 22:20
New idea: Could it be that W&F and Pever are the Bad and his henchman? :book:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-19-2008, 22:38
They would have been counterclaimed.

Sarathos
05-19-2008, 23:39
Sarathos - was online after the night write-up, so... LURKERZ!!!
If I was online after the write-up, how am I a lurker...?


Vote: peverpink
Now, if you're actually looking for the bad and the ugly, then Shlins list is a good place to start.
Now thats interesting, You say that Shlin's list is a good place to start look for the and yet you vote for someone who has been confirmed innocent on that list...?

Vote:W&F

woad&fangs
05-19-2008, 23:47
My objective is to get pever killed. His objective is to get me killed. Now please stop helping him.

GeneralHankerchief
05-19-2008, 23:58
Yeah, those two are of no harm to anyone but each other. Please change your vote.

pevergreen
05-20-2008, 00:01
Unvote: W&F, Vote: Sarathos

GeneralHankerchief
05-20-2008, 00:03
pev, I keep getting your crew confused. You say that there's really no explanation for Sarathos's inactivity?

Or was that T'blade?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-20-2008, 00:06
Rhythmic hasn't posted in either game unvote

methinks sarathos has not been paying attention

Vote:shlin

I get the impression that the lists and such are just him making an effort to appear townie.

pevergreen
05-20-2008, 00:06
T'blade has had a lower back injury, was only able to sit at a computer twice in the last 9 or so days. He is next to me now at school, he should be ok.

Sarathos has had no reason for any inactivity.

Sarathos
05-20-2008, 00:09
methinks sarathos has not been paying attention
Well maybe just a little.


Sarathos has had no reason for any inactivity
How about the 5 school assignments I have, thats a pretty good reason.

Unvote:W&F[/B[B]], Vote:peverpink for not doing his work :whip:

GeneralHankerchief
05-20-2008, 00:10
Rhythmic hasn't posted in either game unvote

methinks sarathos has not been paying attention

Vote:shlin

I get the impression that the lists and such are just him making an effort to appear townie.

Well, posting/voting doesn't automatically qualify you as innocent, and TBH I don't know shlin well enough to know if putting his name on the innocent list is out of the norm for him.

I seem to recall him getting unfairly lynched a lot, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, if not just for one round.

Vote: Caius

Caius
05-20-2008, 00:36
Vote:Mithrandir

What else that camels can you comment about?

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 05:21
unvote

vote:Caius

naut
05-20-2008, 06:06
Haha, even though this is a WIFOM, I actually forgot I was involved in this one.

Vote: Sarthos

His custom user title says he's bad ass, has to be Mafia.

Myrddraal
05-20-2008, 08:41
Voting over. Please wait for the conclusion of this phase, and check my tally!:

Caius 2 - (Mithrandir, GeneralHankerchief)
pevergreen 2 - (woad&fangs, Sarathos)
Sarathos 2 - (Rythmic, pevergreen)


Mithrandir 1 - (Caius)
shlin28 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)

Myrddraal
05-20-2008, 09:07
"The Court has failed to come to a verdict. All three suspects will be returned to the cells, and we will condinue the trial tomorrow"

To these words there was a clamour of shouts and sighs in the small town hall. "We want justice, not endless debates!" "ORDER!" "Let's settle this once and for all"

And so it was decided that justice would be decided in the form of a shootout outside of town. The three men, Sarathos, Caius and Peverpink were soon facing each other in a dusty patch, the men of the town watching from a safe distance.

From so far it was hard to see who shot first, but it was not Caius, he went down with two bullets in his chest in a bloody heap on the floor.

Sarathos and Peverpink froze, guns primed and aimed to kill. The Mayor quickly galloped between them.

"Only one man is guilty, only one must pay for these crimes. This matter is settled!"

And so the two men seperated, and the people returned to their homes, hoping for an end to the violence.


OOC
Caius was lynched by random.org

Send your night orders

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 09:47
:laugh4: that serves you right Caius, voting for me. ~;)

Andres
05-20-2008, 09:55
:laugh4: that serves you right Caius, voting for me. ~;)

Hmmm, celebrating after a blatant retaliation vote?

And didn't you replace Warman? I wonder what was so important about his role that you were allowed to replace him, given the fact that you already got killed in your previous role.

Was it urgent because Warman had a vital role for this game?

I think we need more substantial posts from you, instead of the joke votes you posted thus far.

What do you think about shlin28, GeneralHankerchief and Sasaki?

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 10:02
Was it urgent because Warman had a vital role for this game?


Like I posted before, it's the god-role.

as for substance, check my post about my favorite drink, there's a good hint in that about my role.:yes:

Andres
05-20-2008, 10:12
Are you claiming to be the Good or Father Ramirez? :inquisitive: Interesting...

Btw, why did you ignore my question?

For your convenience, I repeat: What do you think about shlin28, GeneralHankerchief and Sasaki?

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 13:33
*dances on Caius' grave*

Andres
05-20-2008, 13:35
FoS : Mithrandir

GeneralHankerchief
05-20-2008, 14:14
I may be reading too much into it, but

*spoiler alert*

In the movie, Mithrandir's execution scene happens exactly the way it does in the lynch description, with the almost-executed party being The Ugly. Dunno if this relates to the game at all or not, but the possibility is there.

Andres
05-20-2008, 14:16
I may be reading too much into it, but

*spoiler alert*

In the movie, Mithrandir's execution scene happens exactly the way it does in the lynch description, with the almost-executed party being The Ugly. Dunno if this relates to the game at all or not, but the possibility is there.

Mithrandir hasn't been executed :inquisitive:

Myrddraal
05-20-2008, 14:20
GH is refering to the first kill (when Mith died). He then replaced Warman's character because Warman needed to drop out. I mentioned OOC that Mith's original role was Townie (so yes, you're reading too much into it :smile:)

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 14:30
FoS Andres.

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 14:33
Wait, you're already dead. Stop pointing that finger at me, if I was maffia, would I be dancing?

Andres
05-20-2008, 14:34
FoS Andres.

Clownish behaviour often suggests scummy activities :inquisitive:

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 14:37
A relative was killed, that made me a little insane I guess.

GeneralHankerchief
05-20-2008, 14:41
Just to break up the mass of green, understood. :yes:

Andres
05-20-2008, 14:48
Just to break up the mass of green, understood. :yes:

What's your opinion on Mithrandir's clownish behaviour and his supposed role claim?

How about Sasaki and shlin?

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 14:50
I have not claimed any role.

Except that I said that In Character, my favorite drink would probably be something like hot chocalte milk.

Mithrandir
05-20-2008, 14:51
* does the macarena on Caius' grave*

shlin28
05-20-2008, 16:48
I think Mithrandir's clownish behaviour is the cover for his mafia role :inquisitive:


If I was online after the write-up, how am I a lurker...?
Cos that means you read the thread but did nothing... surely a sign of lurking?

Caius
05-20-2008, 18:22
Damn. Game over for me.

Mithrandir
05-21-2008, 07:32
I think Mithrandir's clownish behaviour is the cover for his mafia role :inquisitive:


I think anyone in his right mind would know that if I'd be maffia I wouldn't draw so much unnessary attention to me. either you're insane or you want to lynch an innocent towny.

Either way, you're a hazard to the town.

Vote/FoS: Slin28

Andres
05-21-2008, 08:29
I think anyone in his right mind would know that if I'd be maffia I wouldn't draw so much unnessary attention to me. either you're insane or you want to lynch an innocent towny.

Either way, you're a hazard to the town.

Vote/FoS: Slin28

WIFOM :rolleyes:

Mithrandir
05-21-2008, 08:35
WIFOM ?

Andres
05-21-2008, 08:43
WIFOM : wine in front of me (from the movie The Princess Bride)


In gaming, it's any kind of game or subgame, especially a psychological one, in which a player is given a set of apparently equal choices where one or more is completely wrong. In such games one often may try to use what he knows of his opponent to make a better choice. However, in some situations this leads to recursive reasoning: "But that's just what he wants me to think, so I'll do the opposite. But maybe that's what he wants me to think, so I'll not do the opposite. But maybe that's what he wants me to think..."

In Mafia, WIFOM arguments are often a Scum tactic used to distract the Town. The scum will make an unusual play at night, which would lead to a situation that would 'clear' them (because players will think, "Why would a scum do that?"). These arguments are sometimes used by Newbies and should be avoided in favor of clearer arguments.

pevergreen
05-21-2008, 09:37
The famous clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUee1WvtQZU

I love that movie! Every true mafia players favourite movie.

Mithrandir
05-21-2008, 09:45
Zorro had a side-job?

Myrddraal
05-21-2008, 11:38
Sasaki Kojiro was avoiding the hot afternoon sun, eating a light lunch when he heard a creak on the floorboards outside.

"Who goes there" he called, but nobody answered.

Slowly and trying not to make a sound, he got up, and reached for his rifle. Placing his feet carefully, he took two steps towards the door, then with sudden movement burst through, rifle raised...

But there was nobody there.

Lowering his rifle, he wondered if the heat had got to him, and turned to go back inside. At that point, the man who had climbed in through the window shot him once in the head, and calmly sat down to finish the meal.

Voting starts now.

shlin28
05-21-2008, 11:44
Da list:

Still alive:
shlin28 - Me :yes:
Glenn - No posts on the org for 3 days
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen - Captain
Rythmic - lurking...
Sarathos - semi-lurking...
woad&fangs - Captain
Tratorix - inactive... says GH

That leaves:

shlin28
GH
Rythmic
Sarathos

I sat we lynch one person from those four, because it looks like the kill count has gone down a lot... one killer left maybe?

Will vote later when I get back from school.

Andres
05-21-2008, 11:55
How about lynching Mithrandir?

shlin28
05-21-2008, 11:56
Damn it... keep forgetting him from my list...

Da list:

Still alive:
shlin28 - Me :yes:
Glenn - No posts on the org for 3 days
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen - Captain
Rythmic - lurking...
Sarathos - semi-lurking...
woad&fangs - Captain
Tratorix - inactive... says GH
Mithrandir

That leaves:

shlin28
GH
Rythmic
Sarathos
Mithrandir

Edit: I do not think Mithrandir is the best choice for lynch, if there is only one killer left, I think Sarathos would be a better choice.

Mithrandir
05-21-2008, 12:07
vote: Sarathos random.org said so.

No clue on who to lynch actually.

pevergreen
05-21-2008, 12:20
Vote: Sarathos

He needs to be lynched.

woad&fangs
05-21-2008, 12:53
Vote: Sarathos
because the voices told me to :candle:

Caius
05-21-2008, 20:03
Its Mithrandir teh best choice.

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 20:17
I don't think so.

Vote: shlin28

Based on a hunch, but that list came out of nowhere.

Andres
05-21-2008, 20:24
I don't think so.

So, you ignore the clownish Mithrandir to focus on shlin28 based on... "a hunch"?

Maybe GeneralHankerchief should be the lynch of today...

Sasaki Kojiro
05-21-2008, 20:55
I strongly agree that shlin should be the lynch for today.

shlin28
05-21-2008, 21:14
I don't think so.

Vote: shlin28

Based on a hunch, but that list came out of nowhere.

Came out of nowhere? That list was made from the alive list 2 days ago, got changed a lot, all of its progressions can be seen in the thread and it "came out of nowhere"? So I can't even make list of people now... :inquisitive:

Vote: GH

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 21:20
So, you ignore the clownish Mithrandir to focus on shlin28 based on... "a hunch"?

Yep.

I would go for pever and woad for blatant bandwagoning but that would be a waste. My order right now is shlin > Rythmic > Sarathos > Mithrandir.

(edited to remove a redundancy)

Andres
05-21-2008, 21:23
I would go for pever and woad for blatant bandwagoning but that would be a waste. My order right now is shlin > Rythmic > Sarathos > Mithrandir.

(edited to remove a redundancy)

So the reason to vote shlin28 is "a hunch".

Why Rythmic and Sarathos? And why are they more suspicious then Mithrandir?

Also hunches? Are you from Paris perhaps?

Sasaki Kojiro
05-21-2008, 21:36
I'm not sure pever and W&F stories add up either. Strikes me they aren't really townies until they lynch the other one--until then I bet they'd be willing to ally with the mafia.

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 21:48
So the reason to vote shlin28 is "a hunch".

Surely that point emphasis had nothing to do with your lawyer background. :laugh4:

Also, I think Mithrandir is innocent. You can cry "WIFOM" all night until the cows come home, but I just can't see a mafioso acting like that.

Andres
05-21-2008, 22:29
Surely that point emphasis had nothing to do with your lawyer background. :laugh4:

Also, I think Mithrandir is innocent. You can cry "WIFOM" all night until the cows come home, but I just can't see a mafioso acting like that.

Yes, and let's ignore your "cases" against Rythmic and Sarathos...

Care to explain to us why they are so high on your suspects list?

(Does somebody have an "alive" list?)

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 22:37
Yes, and let's ignore your "cases" against Rythmic and Sarathos...

Care to explain to us why they are so high on your suspects list?

(Does somebody have an "alive" list?)

They're not. It's process of elimination.

The alive list is as follows:

shlin28
Glenn
GeneralHankerchief
pevergreen
Rythmic
Sarathos
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Mithrandir

Cross Glenn and Tratorix off because they're inactive. Cross pever and woad off because they're Captains*.

This leaves:
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
Rythmic
Sarathos
Mithrandir

Now, I'm off the list because I'm a townie. I know there's no way of proving it to you until the game's over, but for purposes of discussion we'll continue down this path. That leaves us with four. I think Mithrandir's innocent and I think shlin's guilty. That's how I ended up with Rythmic and Sarathos in 2nd and 3rd places.



*There is a chance that pever and woad could be lying, especially after the last couple of rounds where they haven't voted each other. Now, this may be possibly in hopes that someone will kill their counterpart off. Of course, there's always the chance that they could have claimed so we'd back off their trail, but this is highly unlikely and if it is the truth, then they've pulled off a brilliant deception and deserve to win the game.

Andres
05-21-2008, 22:45
Funny, when shlin28 does that (less eloquently then you, I'll grant you that), you talk about a list coming out of nowhere :inquisitive:

Anyway, instead of just working down your list of 4 suspects, don't you think it's better to keep discussion going and to force everybody to talk?

Saying "here's the list, let's lynch in that order" kinda kills discussion, doesn't it?

So, what do you think of Rythmic and Sarathos, regardless of the process of elimination? And I don't quite agree with your assumption of Mith's innocence because of his weird behaviour.

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 22:49
Funny, when shlin28 does that (less eloquently then you, I'll grant you that), you talk about a list coming out of nowhere :inquisitive:

Because as far as I can recall, it's uncharacteristic of him. If someone can find me evidence to the contrary (when he was innocent, preferably in a smaller game like this one) then I shall move my vote elsewhere.


Anyway, instead of just working down your list of 4 suspects, don't you think it's better to keep discussion going and to force everybody to talk?

Saying "here's the list, let's lynch in that order" kinda kills discussion, doesn't it?

I just gave people something to discuss with my last post. They can agree with it; disagree with it; say someone should be farther up/farther down, etc. Whether they do anything with this prodding is up to them.


So, what do you think of Rythmic and Sarathos, regardless of the process of elimination? And I don't quite agree with your assumption of Mith's innocence because of his weird behaviour.

I think they're a bit too quiet, but otherwise fine. Sarathos seemed like he wasn't paying attention when he briefly came alive last round; there were three kills that round so I doubt it's him. Rythmic would be more likely to be scum.

Andres
05-21-2008, 22:52
When did you first post (in a post that hasn't been edited after this game started :grin:) a list and based your vote on the process of elimination?

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 22:56
When did you first post (in a post that hasn't been edited after this game started :grin:) a list and based your vote on the process of elimination?

I probably haven't.

But then again, I'm usually not alive at this point in the game either, and if I am there's somebody else directing things. I'm more of a "support townie" ; taking charge of things when I'm scum is more my forte.

-edit- And I'm taking the lead now because nobody else is and this game deserves better.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-21-2008, 23:00
I think if we're at a loss (doesn't seem to be real evidince on shlin or sarathos) we ought to vote out W&F, since he and pever are acting anti town atm.

GeneralHankerchief
05-21-2008, 23:00
And I do vote based on gut feelings a lot.

woad&fangs
05-21-2008, 23:03
Mithrandir and Shlin. I'm pretty confident that at least one of them is mafia. Mithrandirs behaviour seems consistent with his style in other games, but it is a style that can be used as a facade to hide bad intentions.

Shlin does seem more "listy" then usual. "listing" is another style which is easy to hide behind.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-21-2008, 23:05
Mithrandir and Shlin. I'm pretty confident that at least one of them is mafia. Mithrandirs behaviour seems consistent with his style in other games, but it is a style that can be used as a facade to hide bad intentions.

Shlin does seem more "listy" then usual. "listing" is another style which is easy to hide behind.

I think you made a typo. Surely instead of "Shlin" you meant Sarathos, seeing as you're voting for him...

Andres
05-21-2008, 23:08
Mithrandir and Shlin. I'm pretty confident that at least one of them is mafia. Mithrandirs behaviour seems consistent with his style in other games, but it is a style that can be used as a facade to hide bad intentions.

Shlin does seem more "listy" then usual. "listing" is another style which is easy to hide behind.

Is GH listy or is he more hunchy?

And what about Sarathos? Is he voicy?

Csargo
05-21-2008, 23:17
u guys r dorky. :laugh:

pevergreen
05-22-2008, 00:53
If anyone doesnt believe that I'm the captain, I can post the pm log between me and the host asking if i can get the name of the other captain.

Sarathos is the best lynch for today.

Now back to my schoolwork :no:

GeneralHankerchief
05-22-2008, 01:42
I think if we're at a loss (doesn't seem to be real evidince on shlin or sarathos) we ought to vote out W&F, since he and pever are acting anti town atm.

They may be anti-town, but they're live bodies that the scum need to kill in order to win.

Caius
05-22-2008, 02:16
So... who is the BAd and who the Ugly? Sasaki the Bad, GH the Ugly? or viceversa?

Sarathos
05-22-2008, 02:47
I am voicy, now that I have time to pay proper attention to this game.

Many things have happened since I last posted and I do apologise for my absence. I put the .Org on high priority but my education does rank a little higher, I have to study so I may continue to participate on the .Org.

A few things I must get straight:

1.
Vote: Sarathos,
He needs to be lynched.

Sarathos is the best lynch for today.
My only question, why? There is really no reason for me to be lynched apart from the fact that I am semi-lurker but it is explainable and rather unavoidable. You however, have made no attempt at giving a reason and claim to be doing school work yourself, perhaps you need to be lynched?
Also, you automatically assume you are safe because you have claimed you are the Union Captain. I am starting to doubt that because you said to prove it you will post a pm log. Now normally that would be fine, but you are asking for the other Captain's names which completely defeats the purpose of the game as your victory condition is to get him killed. You are a seasoned mafia player so why on earth would you even ask that...?

Vote:Peverpink

2.
Vote: Sarathos
because the voices told me to
Now I consider myself a very junior mafia player in comparison to many other players here but that has to be the biggest bandwagon I have ever seen. You voted me beause Mithrandir and Pever voted me. Fair enough that Mithrandir used Random.org but Pever is just being himself and hasn't even given a reason for voting me yet you seemed to be fully convinced. No one has 'told' you to do anything yet you still vote, when the two other voters have next to no reason, which is very scummy. You bandwagon which is extra scummy and to ice things off, you are the third on that very bandwagon, that = you x scummy^2.

Just a question to Myrddraal, is there going to be WOGing in this game or not?

pevergreen
05-22-2008, 09:16
Originally neither myself or W&F were given each others names.

Think about it, how am I meant to make the town lynch the opposite captain, if I dont know who that is?



Bonus objective is just for fun, my main one is still for the town to win?

Yes.

Hmm. I was planning to let you both know who your opposite was, however, since the principal objective is the towns, I didn't want you pairing up as masons. So I don't think I can let you know who the other is unless I ask you not to contact each other out of thread.

Do you see the dilemma. I didn't really think this role through :shrug:



You are the Confederate Captain

Confederate Captain
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8790/confederatecaptaincc0.jpg

Bonus Objectives:
Get the Union Captain killed

Questions:

I am pro town, yes?
Do I get to know who the Union Captain is? If i dont its kind of hard to lynch him.

Bonus objective is just for fun, my main one is still for the town to win?


There you go.

Andres
05-22-2008, 09:20
Please, tell us, how did you and w&f find each other?

pevergreen
05-22-2008, 09:25
Following a discussion with pevergreen, I've decided to change your roles so that you know each other's identity.

pevergreen is the Confederate Captain
woad&fangs is the Union Captain.

There you go. Now lynch Sarathos.

Andres
05-22-2008, 09:55
The problem is, Myrddraal can't confirm that he sent you that pm, since that would confirm your role and I wouldn't put it behind you to fake it. Also, your "role pm" is just an exact copy from what is available in the OP.

But all in all, your role hasn't been counterclaimed thus far and I don't believe Myrddraal will tell the mafia who they have killed (if the captains would have been killed, they wouldn't be allowed to counterclaim, because of the no reveal after dead rule), so giving you guys the benefit of the doubt for at least a couple of rounds seems reasonable.

pevergreen
05-22-2008, 10:04
edited on request of host.

I revealed, I dont falsely reveal, do i?

shlin28
05-22-2008, 10:59
GH, if you would like the town to win, you would vote Sarathos, because he is pretty much almost definitely the last killer...

Unvote GH, Vote Sarathos

Sarathos
05-22-2008, 12:34
Well I am missing something, because i don't see how I am the killer? I go do school work and come back to find everyone pointing fingers at me for, what was the reason again....?

Andres
05-22-2008, 12:36
*** points finger at Sarathos ***


what was the reason again....?

Lists out of nowhere, hunches, voices, random.org,... :shrug:

Sarathos
05-22-2008, 12:45
Oh well, not much I can do now. Seems everyone has their mind made up. I can't explain/defend myself from anything because no one has accused me of anything. Not much I can do....~:handball:

Myrddraal
05-22-2008, 23:50
Voting over. Please wait for the conclusion of this phase.

Sarathos
05-23-2008, 04:47
Thats me out

Thanks for the game Myrddraal. :2thumbsup:

Myrddraal
05-23-2008, 13:45
Now the inhabitants were gathered to see justice done.


https://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8454/24185223sm5.jpg


"The condemned, standing before us... sitting before us... Sarathos... has been found guilty by trial by his peers of the murder of Warman, the murder of Ichigo, the ..."

The gathering crowd were anxious to see him hang...
"Glad they got him. A man guilty of all those crimes!"


"... the murder of Khaan, we condemn him to be hung by the neck until dead.
May the Lord have mercy on his soul. Proceed."

The whip was raised and fell, but this time there was no guardian angel.


https://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8623/26448714fa7.jpg https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8863/49642452yl2.jpg


Sarathos struggled for a short while, but soon he hung limp, dead.

Send your night orders.

Myrddraal
05-24-2008, 16:46
GeneralHankerchief was hitchhiking on a freight train. He was taking nap between two crates when he was woken by the brakes slamming on and the engine stalling.

As he gathered his things and prepared to leave (he didn't want to be caught illegally riding a train) he heard two gunshots.

Time to get out of here he thought.

He leapt from the wagon and bolted, trying to maked it into a gully not far from the train, but he was shot dead before he could make it far.

Voting begins. There will be WOG.

shlin28
05-24-2008, 16:48
Damn... Vote Rythmic, only possible mafia left...

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 16:49
Damn... Vote Rythmic, only possible mafia left...

Or you.

Figured that was what was going to happen, but you won't be rid of me that easily.

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 17:28
All right, I've been doing some thinking. Myddraal has stated that WoGs will happen this round. The remaining town should probably ignore both the innocents and the WoG-bait in order to maximize their chances of defeating the enemy.

Updated alive list:

shlin28
Glenn
pevergreen
Rythmic
woad&fangs
Tratorix
Mithrandir

Innocents, as discussed before:
Glenn
pevergreen
woad&fangs
Tratorix

Potential WoG-bait:
Glenn
Rythmic
Tratorix

The two people that appear on neither list are:
shlin28
Mithrandir

The town's attention should thus be focused on lynching one of those two people today. Rythmic may or may not get Wogged this turn but if he doesn't show up then he almost certainly will buy it next day phase. Out of the two of them, I think shlin is more likely to be guilty. I think he offed me this turn because he knew we were getting down to the end and my death would mean one less vote against him. If Mithrandir was scum, he would know that I wouldn't have gone after him until a few days later.

So, liv'uns, shlin is our best bet.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-24-2008, 18:39
lynch shlin!

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 19:53
lynch shlin!

Essentially, that's what it comes down to, yes.

woad&fangs
05-24-2008, 22:14
vote: Shlin
You lied to me :no:

shlin28
05-24-2008, 23:14
Wow I am screwed :embarassed: I guess nobody would trust me now, but listen to this, I HAVE THE TOWN'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART!!! But if you want to lynch me, I guess it won't matter, because the game will end when the surviving killer gets WoGed...

Unvote Rythmic, Vote peverpink, to make up for lying to you W&F :shame: (I would also have to make up to peverpink though somehow :sweatdrop:)

Edit: In case you havn't figured it out yet, I am the Ugly, and has killed off all of the potential mafias, leaving only the lurkers...

Edit 2: In case you don't believe me, I will post my role pm tomorrow, too tired today.

woad&fangs
05-24-2008, 23:19
Unvote: Shlin; Vote: Peverpink
:laugh4: I was wondering if you gave him the same offer you gave me.:laugh4:

If the WoG's are coming at the end of this round then the bounty hunters will be gone and the town+ugly will win, O and me of course since we're lynching pever.

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 23:20
Anyone feel like explaining to the dead town?

shlin28
05-24-2008, 23:24
Simplified version of what I did:

Andres (the doctor) gave me a list of people I can kill (ie not the Good), I killed/lynched them. Then I started going through the rest of the list, ie Sasaki, Sarathos and GH. (and I organised the bandwagon on Sarathos too), I figured one of them has to be the mafia/bounty hunter.

Unfortunately... they were not, so now the lurkers are the bad guys.


And now... my Role Pm:

You are Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly

Tuco Ramirez, The Ugly (Serial killer)
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1854/theuglyap2.jpg
Character description (Warning, spoilers):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The Ugly, Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, a comical, oafish, fast talking bandit who is wanted by the authorities. Tuco manages to discover the name of the cemetery where the gold is buried, but he doesn't know the name of the grave - only Blondie does. This state of affairs forces Tuco to become reluctant partners with Blondie, but greed has Tuco waiting for the first opportunity to betray Blondie.




Abilities:
1 Kill per night, 100% chance of killing any player.
Objectives:
Major Victory:
Kill the Bad
Kill the Bounty Hunters
Kill the Good
Survive
Minor Victory:
Survive
Bonus/Special Objective:
Keep Father Pablo (his brother) alive

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 23:27
Andres was giving you orders and you left Mithrandir alive? :inquisitive: Andres has been going after him the entire game.

shlin28
05-24-2008, 23:29
Mithrandir is under my control :yes:

That was how I managed to create my uber bandwagon on Sarathos, I like to think myself as the puppetmaster of the game :beam:

woad&fangs
05-24-2008, 23:33
Since Shlin killed you and no one else was killed last night I believe it is safe to assume that one of the WoG bait is a bounty hunter. The game will end with the WoGs and Me, Shlin, and Mith will ride off into the sunset together...On camels of course...

edit: How is Mith under your control? Did you offer him a deal too?

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 23:34
Actually, reading up on the Town victory conditions, I (the Town) win if either you (shlin) die or the bounty hunters do, so go crazy. :yes:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-24-2008, 23:46
hah, I figured it was something like that. So, lynch shlin for townie victory.

GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2008, 23:53
hah, I figured it was something like that. So, lynch shlin for townie victory.

I would, but I'm dead. Looks like what's gonna happen is pever's getting lynched, Glenn and Tratorix (possibly Rythmic) are getting Wogged, leaving the Ugly, the surviving Captain, and whatever role Mithrandir is winning.

Alternatively, if Rythmic doesn't get Wogged, shlin will just whack him tonight with the same scenario.

pevergreen
05-25-2008, 00:52
Hello there, Captain peverpink...

I am the good doctor Pablo, I, along with the Good and the Ugly are trying to find the bounty hunters and the bad.

If you are willing to vote GH or Sarathos the next day phase (if they are still alive that is) ... then consider your enemy dead. If you reveal this infomation... your enemy will win, simple as that

Will you join with us?

Vote: Shlin28

GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2008, 02:34
:dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:

Right, screw this. Just lynch shlin, just because.

Anyone arrogant enough to call himself the game's puppetmaster in the public thread deserves a lesson in humility.

Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 02:49
It's a pity I got killed.

shlin28
05-25-2008, 13:55
Vote: Shlin28

Remember, that pm was sent BEFORE you revealed that you were just a townie with a bonus objective, I thought you guys were neutral, and so I thought I better not send both of you guys the same pm, just in case you support he mafia.

My control over Mithrandir came about when I attacked him on the first round :2thumbsup:

And lastly, my comment about me being the "puppetmaster" was a bit stupid... please don't hold it against me... :juggle2:

Myrddraal
05-25-2008, 14:09
The town were gathered to discuss the latest murder, and to see justice done.

Shlin: Look amigos, I killed General Hankerchief! but don't be harsh on me, I swear it was in self defence! Well... preemptive self defence... I'm trying to kill a couple of bounty hunters who are after me!

Rythmic: They're after you? I thought they were after me?

Mithrandir: I think..

Shlin: Shut up Mithrandir, or I'll finish you off

Tratorix: But who are the bounty hunters? Is anybody here a bounty hunter?

Dead silence followed, which was interrupted by the entrance of the Glenn the Sheriff.

Wait, stop! I just searched Sasaki's diary and found conclusive evidence that he was a corrupt Union corporal helping a bounty hunter to track down a casket of stolen confederate coins. They were killing all who got in their way. That bounty hunter, Angel Eyes, was also known by some as Sarathos. It seems like we got the scum!

Mithrandir: Well Sheriff, what abo...
Mithrandir's words were cut short as two revolver butts knocked him out.

Shlin and Rythmic both grinned widely: I slipped.

But before Glenn could suspect anything, GeneralHankerchief made a dramatic entrance, staggering under his injuries, he collapsed on the threshold of the town hall.

As if this were a hidden cue, mayhem broke out. GeneralHankerchief was rushed to the amateur care of Tratorix, Glenn had to break up a vicious brawl between pevergreen and woad&fangs and Mithrandir hid under a table as gunshots and table legs flew overhead.

In the confusion nobody saw a brief exchange of words between Rythmic and Shlin, and they quietly slipped out the back.

Saddling up outside, Shlin looked at his new partner. Seems I won't find that gold after all, that double crossing Khaan is dead without telling me the name on the grave.

Well that's a funny thing, said Rythmic The other day I was following the Bounty Hunter Ichigo, and I saw him kill a blond haired man who was unarmed in a barn. The blond haired man was only injured, so when Ichigo had cleared off I went up to him. I asked him who he was, and he gave me a name, but something tells me it wasn't his name...

And the pair rode into the sunset, as life in the west returned to normal.

https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1246/cowboysunsetgd8.jpg



OOC:

My apologies. My records got screwed. I forgot that Caius was dead, and was going to WOG him this round.

TOWN VICTORY
UGLY VICTORY
GOOD DEFEAT
BAD DEFEAT

The Good: Khaan - Defeated
The Bad: Sarathos - Defeated
The Ugly: Shlin - Victorious
The Henchman: Sasaki - Defeated
Father Pablo: Andres - Defeated
The Sheriff: Glenn - Victorious
The Bounty Hunters: Caius and Ichigo - Defeated

The Cowardly Store Owner: Mithrandir - Victorious
The Union Captain: woad&fangs - Defeated
The Confederate Captain: pevergreen - Defeated
The Wanted Man: Rythmic - Victorious
The Town: GH, Warman, Tratorix - Victorious


There was some chronic inactivity in this game, I think it could have benefited form more players. I hope that didn't spoil it for you. There was also some chronic blunders on my part, but I hope it was still fun...

GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2008, 14:13
Wahoo! :medievalcheers:

Thanks for hosting Myrddraal. This game deserved better than what it got. It was fun for me, trying to rationalize everything in the thread and then realizing on the last day that I was completely out of the loop. :laugh4:

Sasaki Kojiro
05-25-2008, 14:17
Funniest moment goes to Andres for claiming doctor in the thread when he thought he was going to be lynhced :laugh4:

Myrddraal
05-25-2008, 15:36
I didn't get a single investigation request from Glenn, and the doctor and the good got killed off pretty fast, so the town did quite well all things considered.

GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2008, 15:39
I didn't get a single investigation request from Glenn, and the doctor and the good got killed off pretty fast, so the town did quite well all things considered.

Glenn told me he had investigated me Night 1. :dizzy2:

Csargo
05-25-2008, 16:02
I killed khaan...:bigcry:

woad&fangs
05-25-2008, 16:10
pever, sorry that I had to reveal us like that. I didn't expect an extended night phase or for there to only be 1 kill.

Bad Shlin:whip:
GH was a townie and you lied to me and pever.

It's too bad the game had so much inactivity. Fun game nonetheless. I'll be sure to show up for your next game, Myrrd.

shlin28
05-25-2008, 16:14
I did what I had to do to find the bounty hunters :yes:

But look at this, I killed off Sasaki and Ichigo, lynched Sarathos and Caius... without me you wouldn't have your victory :beam:

woad&fangs
05-25-2008, 16:16
ummm, me and pever lost...

I don't know what he told you but we were neutral roles whos only objectives were to get the other lynched and survive.

shlin28
05-25-2008, 16:19
In post 180 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1927089&postcount=180) he claimed that you guys are "pro-town"...

GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2008, 16:21
GH was a townie

Of course I was.

I never lie unless it suits me.

Myrddraal
05-25-2008, 17:35
Sorry you're right. Glenn did investigate you before gowing AWOL


Interestingly both the Ugly and the Bad targeted the cowardly store owner in the first round. Mith was cursed with that role, but for some reason Sarathos never passed any instructions to Mith, which left Shlin to use him as he wished.

seireikhaan
05-25-2008, 23:59
I killed khaan...:bigcry:
Grr... :whip:

pevergreen
05-26-2008, 00:04
I chose to help the town. I won in my mind.

Sarathos
05-26-2008, 00:33
Sarathos never passed any instructions to Mith
I could past instructions to Mithrandir... :huh:
Must not of read my role pm correctly.

Mithrandir
05-26-2008, 08:38
Interestingly both the Ugly and the Bad targeted the cowardly store owner in the first round. Mith was cursed with that role, but for some reason Sarathos never passed any instructions to Mith, which left Shlin to use him as he wished.

Oh great, 2 serial killers both decided to kill me first :inquisitive:

Andres
05-26-2008, 08:41
Good game shlin28 :bow:

Well played, my beloved brother. Now, please, stop this life of crime and become a priest. Mom will be happy.

Thnx for hosting Myrddraal, it was a fun game :2thumbsup:

Mithrandir
05-26-2008, 10:31
Thanks for the hostage Myrddraal :bow:

Myrddraal
05-26-2008, 11:17
Must not of read my role pm correctly.

It wasn't in your role PM. It was in the Cowardly store owner description, which was available to all. I also told you in your results for the first round :wink:


{BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 is the Cowardly General Store owner!

He has sworn to serve you in exchange for his life. He does not know your identity. You may send him messages and instructions through me.

NOTE: {BHC}AntiWarmanCake88 is quitting the game, and will hopefully be replaced by Mithrandir

Who knows what difference it might have made :grin: :cowboy:

Mithrandir
05-26-2008, 11:21
I don't mind :laugh4:

*crawls from under the table and sets of on his camel into the sunset*

shlin28
05-26-2008, 12:09
Meh, I didn't use Mithrandir that much, I only told him who to vote for...

Imagine what would happen if Sarathos tried to use Mithrandir to prevent his bandwagon though :smash:

Sarathos
05-26-2008, 13:10
Imagine what would happen if Sarathos tried to use Mithrandir to prevent his bandwagon though
Yeah, if only I could read properly :bigcry:

naut
05-26-2008, 15:23
Yey! Win through lurking.

shlin28
05-26-2008, 15:42
Yey! Win through lurking.

At the end I debated whether I should kill you or GH... you got saved because I thought you were too obviously lurking :sweatdrop: