View Full Version : The Brothel - Large Mafia Game [Concluded]
Omanes Alexandrapolites
06-23-2008, 17:45
Note: This was going to be called Teletubby Mafia, but I couldn't think of any ideas for a decent storyline. Sorry to anybody that was looking forward to game of that title ~:(
A Brothel, in the year 1555. A place of secrets, whispers and truths, all contained within a large wooden house in a tiny backstreet ally of Old London Town.
Recently, a band of Puritan men have infiltrated the brothel with the aim of ending the "heretical and immoral" practices occurring between it's walls. They have concluded that there is no other way of doing this other than by killing all the clients and the women within the house to remove the scourge from the streets. In vengeance, the Brothel owners have secured the exits and have declared a daily lynch vote with the aim of locating and removing the killers.
Roles:
Clients (the equivalent of an ordinary townie)
Prostitutes (ordinary townies with a twist)
Various pro-prostitute roles (e.g. role-blocker, detective e.c.t)
Puritans (mafia)
Secret roles
The clients are ordinary townies. They can no nothing other than vote and post their thoughts.
The prostitutes are like the ordinary townies, but they are in sorted into a set of small groups of fellow prostitutes (three or four people). These groups are comparable to those of "The Brotherhood - Part II", a mafia game I hosted a while back, only without the infiltrators.
Essentially, the prostitutes know the identity of other people in their group and can protect or kill targets with others in their group on night phases assigned to them. All choices made by the group must be unanimously made and all members must send me a PM.
The prostitute groups also have a defence mechanism provided to them. If any members of a prostitute group have attempts made on their life, they have a chance of survival due to the protection provided by other group members. There is a 50% chance of survival when all three group members are alive and 25% when two group members are alive. This does not apply if the group is performing actions on that night however.
If the group is reduced to one member through any method, the surviving member is powerless and, like a client, can do nothing but vote. The defence mechanism is also removed.
There will be at least of two of these groups, but depending upon how many sign up, this may be increased to three.
The number and type of pro-client roles are going to remain secret, unless the role holder reveals, till the end of the game.
The Puritans are this games version of the mafia. There are at most three of them in total. Each Puritan can choose to kill one person every two nights by sending me a PM.
The Secret Roles, as indicated by the term secret, remain unknown until the end of the game.
Bear in mind that none of the above will be stuck to as if it were law - although the basic model will remain the same, some variations may exist to confuse players and add a bit of interest here and there.
General Rules:
Night phases will end after approximately twenty four hours, while day phases will last approximately forty eight hours in total.
Unsuccessful kills will not be reported publicly, although the participants will be informed that they were attacked/their attack failed.
This game will use the WoG (wrath of god) function. This will used to kill of players who are inactive (fail to post through two successive day phases without good reason) and break the player-side rules (stated below).
Screenshots are strictly forbidden.
To sign up simply post "In" below. I'll start when I feel that I'm unlikely to receive any more players (forty-eight hours without any sign-ups). I would like at least twenty players, although a larger number of players are welcome.
Signed Up (18)
anelious phyros
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
El Diablo
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
GeneralHankerchief
makaikhaan
peverpink
Quintus.J.Cicero
Rythmic
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Tratorix
Sorry, sign-ups are now closed.
FactionHeir
06-23-2008, 17:47
:yes:
GeneralHankerchief
06-23-2008, 17:51
I'm in, but will be (relatively) inactive for the first part.
anelious phyros
06-23-2008, 19:06
IN! :bandana:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
06-24-2008, 01:44
In for me!!!
pevergreen
06-24-2008, 10:31
In. :bow:
TevashSzat
06-25-2008, 16:43
What the heck, I'll join
Quintus.JC
06-25-2008, 17:45
I'm Inn! :yes:
Beefy187
06-26-2008, 10:37
im in if it starts before my holiday ends
in!
seireikhaan
06-26-2008, 13:04
:charge:
However, I will be inactive for a few days to start the game.
Craterus
06-28-2008, 16:08
Ok, I'll join. :beam:
Crazed Rabbit
06-28-2008, 18:55
Well, I've ended drinking in one game, so now its time to end prostitution! In!
CR
Tratorix
06-29-2008, 23:54
In. :2thumbsup:
El Diablo
06-30-2008, 03:05
I am in (if still room).
One question...
I do not understand this "no screen shots" rule? What kind of screen shots would you be inclinded to send?
Please excuse my ignorance...
ED
Omanes Alexandrapolites
06-30-2008, 12:44
Welcome aboard El Diablo ~:wave:
At the beginning of the game, I send out role PMs. People may choose to screenshot them and post the shot in the thread. Since screenshots are hard(er) to fake they are, effectivly, total proof that an individual has that role henceforth ruining the game.
~:)
We also vote the newcomers...
Except me, I vote for Caius...
El Diablo
07-01-2008, 01:25
We also vote the newcomers...
Ha ha - I feel like the guys in the red shirts in Star Trek.
They have one of the shortest life expectancies of anyone in TV.
Gaius Scribonius Curio
07-03-2008, 01:21
I'm really sorry Omanes, I'm going to have to pull out. Issues connecting to the internet and the fact that I'm ridiculously busy at work mean that I won't be able to contribute. I'm sorry...
Cronos Impera
07-04-2008, 14:46
In.
GeneralHankerchief
07-07-2008, 03:08
Bump.
How many do you need before you will start the game Omanes?
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-07-2008, 08:40
How many do you need before you will start the game Omanes?I would like twenty people or more, although slightly fewer is acceptable.
I'm going to close down sign ups this evening at around about 17:00 (GMT+1). It seems that sign-ups have slowed down fairly dramatically and I'm not expecting any more users to consider joining. If there's anybody out there considering participating, but is unsure, then you have approximately eight and a half hours from this posting time to sign-up.
~:)
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-07-2008, 16:59
Sign-ups are now closed and role PMs are undergoing distribution.
anelious phyros
07-07-2008, 17:01
Cool.
Oh, and I forgot to say this but I might not be as active as before in another games (2)
I'm running Assyria Total War and it's getting pretty buisy.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-07-2008, 19:48
Day I Prologue
Before starting in it's entirety, there have been small tweaks to the rules to improve gameplay and balance overall. The number of puritans have been reduced, role PM quoting is now permitted and the prostitutes have a handy defence mechanism. This is reflected in the revised initial post. For reference, the prostitute and client PM are posted below:
The Client PM
You are a client. You have come to the Brothel for what most men come to a brothel for, although have instead found yourself at risk from a gang of murderous puritans, eager to end prostitution in London town.
During the day phase you may, like all other players, vote who you think is against the client's/prostitute's interests.
At night you are not able to perform any actions.
Your victory is achieved should all anti-prostitute/client players be killed. You loose if any anti-client/prostitute group gain a majority over the clients/prostitutes.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a PM
The Prostitute PM
You are a member of a group of prostitutes in the Brothel.
You win if all anti-client/prostitute players are killed - either murdered or lynched.
During the day you can, like other players, vote for whom you want to lynch. Your aim is to lynch who you think has objectives against that of the town.
On a night, if any members of your group have attempts made on their life, they have a chance of survival due to the protection provided by other group members. There is a 50% chance of survival when all three group members are alive and 25% when two group members are alive.
Also on a night you may, as a group, work together to kill or protect one player. The decision of who is to be targeted and with which action must be unanimously decided by the entire group. All members must PM me to confirm their choice. If one person fails to PM me the action will not be performed. Bear in mind though, when you act all the protection provided by being in a group is lost, making all players as vulnerable as an ordinary client.
When a single group member is left alive, they cannot perform any actions beyond voting in the day lynch. The group protection also is lost making them vulnerable to acts against their life.
Your group consists of [people's names go here].
If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a PM ~:)
With that out of the way, day I begins! This day phase will conclude at about 19:00 (GMT+1) on Wednesday the 9th of July. This is a total of 48 hours.
Good luck to all participants ~:)
Alive (19):
Andres
anelious phyros
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
El Diablo
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
GeneralHankerchief
makaikhaan
peverpink
Quintus.J.Cicero
Rythmic
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Tratorix
Lynched (0):
Killed (0):
WoGed (0):
Suicided (0):
TevashSzat
07-07-2008, 20:55
So....another start without a kill to at least try to get some clues from.
El Diablo
07-07-2008, 21:19
Agreed that is tough. So I will start and obviously get the first FoS - but..
Vote Tratorix
Sorry no reason just trying to get the banter flowing.
anelious phyros
07-07-2008, 21:23
vote: El Diablo
Bad habbit.
Way to start the night before I'm going on holiday :clown:
I wont have any internet access for a week so don't expect to see me post here...
If you think I'm saying this to excuse inactivity, then check the Throne Room, I announced it there yesterday.
Vote : Elite Ferret
Already seeking excuses for his suspicious lurking :inquisitive: And he posted a clown smiley :mean:
anelious phyros
07-07-2008, 21:43
Vote : Elite Ferret
Already seeking excuses for his suspicious lurking :inquisitive: And he posted a clown smiley :mean:
Edit - vote:El Daiablo. I guess Andres wasn't actully playing.....
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-07-2008, 22:15
Andres, I'm sorry to point this out, but you didn't actually sign up to play. I can fit you into a role if you want though, and it's assignment won't be affected by the fact that game has started. Just post your "In" here or drop me a PM.
~:)
anelious phyros
07-07-2008, 22:17
Edited last post....
TevashSzat
07-07-2008, 22:17
unovote:El Diablo vote:Anders
Play nice now, Andres.:grin3:
Switching pressure votes so quickly and so early in the game huh?
Vote:anelious phyros
Oh, and by the way, you misspelled Andres
anelious phyros
07-07-2008, 22:18
Yea, I know. But it turns out he's not playing anyway.
GeneralHankerchief
07-07-2008, 22:18
:laugh4:
This happened before in Capo I. What were you in that one after you joined late, Andres? A Wiseguy?
Vote: Sigurd
Craterus
07-07-2008, 22:33
I also signed up Omanes, but don't worry if it's too much trouble.
It seems like Omanes is right... :embarassed:
This happened before in Capo I. What were you in that one after you joined late, Andres? A Wiseguy?
A wiseguy indeed. An honest, pro-town Wiseguy...
So....another start without a kill to at least try to get some clues from.
Worried that you might get lynched before actually doing your dirty work, bible basher?
vote: TevashSzat
FactionHeir
07-07-2008, 23:06
vote: Andres
Green and all.
GeneralHankerchief
07-07-2008, 23:29
I don't think Andres should be having this many votes, guys. Omanes specifically said that he could fit Andres's role in and it wouldn't really affect things. I think adding an extra mafioso to the game would affect things.
Unvote: Sigurd
Vote: FH
Plus, we're not even sure if he's playing yet. :laugh4:
FactionHeir
07-07-2008, 23:47
For your evil vote I shall post a :clown:
Beefy187
07-07-2008, 23:59
Vote: anelious phyros
Being on the top of the list :beam:
GeneralHankerchief
07-08-2008, 00:02
For your evil vote I shall post a :clown:
You seem much less serious than usual.
FactionHeir
07-08-2008, 00:02
You should have noticed that I have been this way in most games recently. ~:)
Until I get an idea who is guilty that is, then I get serious.
GeneralHankerchief
07-08-2008, 00:03
Not in Mafia VIII. There you were pretty focused.
What about the smaller games? Can anyone verify?
anelious phyros
07-08-2008, 00:09
Well my fist 2 games (this is my third) i've played with factionHeir. I'd say there's truth in what he says. Even though he's not way out there when he's not focused.
Well FacthionHeir....We've lived togther and now we've died togther.......odd.
After they ending of Docter Mafia, were shilin (the killed mafia from the Druken lawyors) rips my face off and kills FachtionHeir in a way i just totally forgot. :yes:
FactionHeir
07-08-2008, 00:14
Not in Mafia VIII. There you were pretty focused.
What about the smaller games? Can anyone verify?
Forgetting all those "bad vibes" and people wanting to lynch me for being different?
Vote: Beefy187
Mmmm beef.
pevergreen
07-08-2008, 03:10
Vote: Rythmic
Mmmm rythem.
anelious phyros
07-08-2008, 03:12
unovte:El Diablo vote:Pevergreen (or whoever the hec he may be at one time)
Mmmmmm, pink green
pevergreen
07-08-2008, 03:14
I'm sorry AP, your vote seems to be invalid. There is no one by the name of peverpink in this game.
If you had of voted pever, that would have been ok.
HoS: Andres
Capo memories coming back in waves.
anelious phyros
07-08-2008, 03:16
:brood:
Happy now?
pevergreen
07-08-2008, 03:19
Not quite, a vote should only include the persons name, as well as the correct spelling or abbreviation.
Vote: pever/Vote: pevergreen
thank you.
:laugh4:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-08-2008, 07:52
I also signed up Omanes, but don't worry if it's too much trouble.Sorry Craterus - you've been added and a role has random been assigned. My apologies for the mix up ~:(
Andres has also been added to the list and a role has been provided. Thanks for joining Andres :bow:
Beefy187
07-08-2008, 07:55
Sorry Craterus - you've been added and a role has random been assigned. My apologies for the mix up ~:(
Andres has also been added to the list and a role has been provided. Thanks for joining Andres :bow:
So we can safely assume that Craterus and Andres is innocent?
Forgetting all those "bad vibes" and people wanting to lynch me for being different?
So? You don't continue to use your not-so-new-anymore inquistorial style because you don't want to be lynched? Is that your only motiviation?
After they ending of Docter Mafia, were shilin (the killed mafia from the Druken lawyors) rips my face off and kills FachtionHeir in a way i just totally forgot. :yes:
I spent 5 minutes on that write-up!!!
You are gonna pay for that :no:
Vote: anelious phyros
Craterus
07-08-2008, 12:47
I'm sorry AP, your vote seems to be invalid. There is no one by the name of peverpink in this game.
If you had of voted pever, that would have been ok.
HoS: Andres
Capo memories coming back in waves.
vote: pevergreen
What's HoS? Some new mafia lingo? :inquisitive:
Cronos Impera
07-08-2008, 13:07
Voted Caius for lurking
anelious phyros
07-08-2008, 14:03
I spent 5 minutes on that write-up!!!
You are gonna pay for that :no:
Vote: anelious phyros
Oh wait. Now your trying to kill me in her and the girrafe game?
But no you won't. Because I'm not going to be here. Sorry omanes, i've found out i'm going to be gone for 2 weeks on vacation so just suicide me or have give a crack at lyncing me. Sorry.
TevashSzat
07-08-2008, 14:46
Just making the tally here, guys please update it.
Also, @Cronos, your vote doesn't count unless you do it in this format: Vote:Person's Name
anelious phyros 3 (TevashSzat, Beefy187, shlin28)
Pevergreen 2 (anelious phyros, Craterus )
Tratorix 1 (El Diablo)
Elite Ferret 1 (Andres)
TevashSzat 1 (Sigurd)
Andres 1 (FactionHeir)
FactionHeir 1 (GH)
Beefy187 1 (Rythmic)
Rythmic 1 (pevergreen)
So we can safely assume that Craterus and Andres is innocent?
Well, not necessarily. Their roles were randomly assigned and I would hope Omanes had enough foresight to give them a chance of being mafia
Unvote: AP
Vote: GH
Random :shame:
anelious phyros 2 (TevashSzat, Beefy187)
Pevergreen 2 (anelious phyros, Craterus )
Tratorix 1 (El Diablo)
Elite Ferret 1 (Andres)
TevashSzat 1 (Sigurd)
Andres 1 (FactionHeir)
FactionHeir 1 (GH)
Beefy187 1 (Rythmic)
Rythmic 1 (pevergreen)
GH 1 (shlin28)
El Diablo
07-08-2008, 21:05
So we can safely assume that Craterus and Andres is innocent?
There are also two groups of prostitutes as well as mafia.
They may have been assigned to one of those.
It makes it tough that is for sure....
seireikhaan
07-08-2008, 23:26
Vote: pevergreen
Just 'cuz.
FactionHeir
07-08-2008, 23:49
Considering we were fewer players than Omanes anticipated, it is unlikely he had 4 puritans. So with these new additions, one of them likely is.
Tratorix
07-09-2008, 00:19
Vote: makaikhaan
:shrug:
Beefy187
07-09-2008, 00:41
Considering we were fewer players than Omanes anticipated, it is unlikely he had 4 puritans. So with these new additions, one of them likely is.
Ok my hunch says Craterus
unvote: anelious vote: Craterus
anelious phyros 1 (TevashSzat)
Pevergreen 3 (anelious phyros, Craterus, makaikhaan )
Tratorix 1 (El Diablo)
Elite Ferret 1 (Andres)
TevashSzat 1 (Sigurd)
Andres 1 (FactionHeir)
FactionHeir 1 (GH)
Beefy187 1 (Rythmic)
Rythmic 1 (pevergreen)
GH 1 (shlin28)
Craterus 1 (Beefy)
makaikhaan 1 (Tratorix)
Crazed Rabbit
07-09-2008, 03:38
Considering we were fewer players than Omanes anticipated, it is unlikely he had 4 puritans. So with these new additions, one of them likely is.
Hmm, seems doubtful to me. More likely, a secret role.
vote: Craterus
Because he's Dutch :beam:
CR
MY hunch says that
Vote:Beefy187
pevergreen
07-09-2008, 06:28
Just cus?
Thats hardly a reason. Even for a random.
Unvote: Rythmic
Cronos Impera
07-09-2008, 10:04
Vote: Caius
Reason: as stated in post #66
pevergreen
07-09-2008, 11:30
Cronos, please bold your votes, so they stand out.
I am unaware of Omanes' stance on voting, but many hosts in the post have refused to count unbolded votes as valid, and it has become commonplace to ignore them.
:bow:
Considering we were fewer players than Omanes anticipated, it is unlikely he had 4 puritans. So with these new additions, one of them likely is.
Conveniently ignoring my previous post, are we?
Here it is:
So? You don't continue to use your not-so-new-anymore inquistorial style because you don't want to be lynched? Is that your only motiviation?
Unvote EF; Vote : FactionHeir
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 12:00
I didn't feel I needed to respond to an attempt at copying me :tongue2:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-09-2008, 12:21
I am unaware of Omanes' stance on voting, but many hosts in the post have refused to count unbolded votes as valid, and it has become commonplace to ignore them.Just for clarity, I will not totally ignore un-bolded votes. Regardless of this however, the chances are that when skimming through to do a vote count I may not see them. If this is the case, they will end up being ignored.
~:)
Craterus
07-09-2008, 12:56
Hmm, seems doubtful to me. More likely, a secret role.
vote: Craterus
Because he's Dutch :beam:
CR
Um, no I'm not. :shrug:
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 13:44
Um, no I'm not. :shrug:
Are you saying you are an uptight puritan instead? :inquisitive:
Happy Andres? :grin:
Considering we were fewer players than Omanes anticipated, it is unlikely he had 4 puritans. So with these new additions, one of them likely is.
This is nonsense. But what bothers me most is that Beefy187 used this nonsense as a reason to vote Craterus.
TevashSzat
07-09-2008, 14:30
Vote: pevergreen
Just 'cuz.
Okay...if thats not a scummy bandwagon attempt there, I don't know what is....Unvote, Vote: Makaikhaan
Updated Tally:
Pevergreen 3 (anelious phyros, Craterus, makaikhaan)
Craterus 2 (Beefy,CR)
Beefy187 2 (Rythmic,Caius)
FactionHeir 2 (GH,Andres)
makaikhaan 2 (TevashSzat, Tratorix)
Tratorix 1 (El Diablo)
TevashSzat 1 (Sigurd)
Andres 1 (FactionHeir)
GH 1 (shlin28)
Caius 1 (Cronos)
Edit:
My bad...I'm just not too good at updating the tally after many new votes. You should've seen how many corrections i had to make before...
On a good note, it seems like 16 out of 19 voting is pretty good in terms of activity
Okay...if thats not a scummy bandwagon attempt there, I don't know what is....Unvote, Vote: Makaikhaan
Updated Tally:
makaikhaan 1 (Tratorix)
...
makaikhaan 1 (TevashSzat)
Are there two makaikhaans? Are we facing an invasion of makaikhaans? Are the makaikhaans octosquids in disguise? Is it makaikhaan and his twin zombie brother?
~:confused:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-09-2008, 16:32
This day phase will be extended by approximately 12 hrs (till about 07:30 GMT+1) due to a couple of real life circumstances.
I apologise for any problems caused ~:(
Craterus
07-09-2008, 18:32
Are you saying you are an uptight puritan instead? :inquisitive:
Um, no I'm not. :shrug:
Um, no I'm not. :shrug:
Do you have something more to say than that?
Craterus
07-09-2008, 19:14
Trying to reason your way out of a lynch only ever seems to incriminate you further in the first round but, since you asked nicely, here's what I think. I don't see how it's logical that myself or Andres must be mafia/puritan. 2 extra players doesn't mean one is town and the other mafia. Roles aren't handed out to the ratio of 1:1 in mafia games.
Trying to reason your way out of a lynch only ever seems to incriminate you further in the first round but, since you asked nicely, here's what I think. I don't see how it's logical that myself or Andres must be mafia/puritan. 2 extra players doesn't mean one is town and the other mafia. Roles aren't handed out to the ratio of 1:1 in mafia games.
Indeed :yes:
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 21:25
I see, both of you trying to shift the blame and appear innocent.
I see, both of you trying to shift the blame and appear innocent.
The mere fact that we were the last to join the game doesn't increase the chance of us being mafia. That's just bad logic.
Craterus
07-09-2008, 21:44
Shift what blame? There haven't been any kills yet. :cool4:
What's more, I didn't mention anyone's name, I'm hardly shifting the blame. At this stage, I'm as clueless as everybody else.
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 21:52
The mere fact that we were the last to join the game doesn't increase the chance of us being mafia. That's just bad logic.
So you are saying that Omanes had assigned 4 mafiosi already with only 17 players of the original 20+ he was aiming for? Since you two joined after the initial distribution and made it 19 he just made you townies?
I think not.
GeneralHankerchief
07-09-2008, 22:03
Omanes said that each mafioso/Puritan could kill one person every two nights.
With the extra 2 players, it's extremely unlikely that both new players are mafiosi. With the one though, maybe. The mafia would get an extra kill every two days. This may not seem like much, but considering that there really aren't that many people playing and there is the possibility of townie kill groups, this game could be over very quickly. I personally think that Andres and Craterus are both townies.
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 22:14
But then again we don't know what your role is. For all we know you could be their scum buddy.
But then again we don't know what your role is. For all we know you could be their scum buddy.
Back to your inquisitorial style? Or is that still subject to change?
The fact that GH might be scum doesn't mean that his statement is incorrect.
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 22:19
Of course not, I don't think both of you are, but one of you probably is. Still I doubt both of you are town.
Of course not, I don't think both of you are, but one of you probably is. Still I doubt both of you are town.
And the only reason is the fact that we were the last to join the game?
What do you think about Beefy187 who just quoted your (questionable) reasoning and voted Craterus?
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 22:33
I'm more interested why you are questioning me now. You are still the suspect.
I'm more interested why you are questioning me now. You are still the suspect.
Aren't we all suspects?
FactionHeir
07-09-2008, 22:38
I'm town. One of you two isn't. Of course you may just view it the same way.
GeneralHankerchief
07-09-2008, 22:40
I'm town. One of you two isn't. Of course you may just view it the same way.
Are you referring to Andres and me or Andres and Craterus?
Beefy187
07-10-2008, 00:00
Im guessing FH meant Andres and Craterus.
Seeing as when those two joined roles were already given out normally I would say those two are innocent. However given the amount of players in this game it is also likely that those two recieved either extra mafia roles or pro town roles.
So lynching one of you could end up killing a important town role but chance of being mafia is rather higher compared to others. Thats the reason of me voting for Craterus.
I thought its a good enough reasoning for round 1 rather then "my hunch says..."
Craterus
07-10-2008, 00:02
but chance of being mafia is rather higher compared to others.
How?
Beefy187
07-10-2008, 00:37
How?
ok i see a hole in my logic. Ill take that back. :shame:
Unvote: Craterus vote: anelious phyyrus
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-10-2008, 08:06
Day I Conclusion
As the voting concluded, and after several moments of counting, there appeared to be one clear lynch target - pevergreen. After several moments of struggling and attempting to persuade those around him of his innocence, pevergreen was taken to the top of a flight of stairs within the brothel and thrown off. It took three repeats of this to kill him, the first providing a crack as his arm broke under the strain, the second knocking him out and breaking both his legs, and the final resulting in the fracturing of his skull following by dramatic levels of internal bleeding. Within ten minutes, pevergreen had breathed his final breath.
pevergreen has been lynched!
Tally:
pevergreen 3 (anelious phyros, Craterus, makaikhaan)
Beefy187 2 (Rythmic,Caius)
FactionHeir 2 (GeneralHankerchief, Andres)
makaikhaan 2 (TevashSzat, Tratorix)
Tratorix - 1 (El Diablo)
TevashSzat - 1 (Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Andres - 1 (FactionHeir)
GeneralHankerchief - 1 (shlin28)
Caius - 1 (Cronos Impera)
anelious phyros - 1 (Beefy187)
Craterus - 1 (CrazedRabbit)
Night I begins! All actions must be PMed to me by approximately 08:00 (GMT+1) on Friday the 11th of July. This is a total of about 24-hrs.
Alive (18):
Andres
anelious phyros
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
El Diablo
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
GeneralHankerchief
makaikhaan
Quintus.J.Cicero
Rythmic
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Tratorix
Lynched (1):
pevergreen (formerly peverpink)
Killed (0):
WoGed (0):
Suicided (0):
If you need to replace someone Omanes, send me a PM and I'd be glad to.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-11-2008, 07:49
Night I Conclusion
El Diablo was silently lying on the floor of the brothel. A cold draft swept across the floor and the moth bitten woollen blankets provided little protection from this.
As he stood up to move out of the way of this draft, he saw a man shivering in the corner of the room, whimpering slightly as if he was crying or was injured. As El Diablo walked forward to try and establish what was wrong, this little man charged forward brandishing a dagger which he must have been hiding behind his back. El Diablo was literally ripped apart by the dagger and was left rapidly dying in a pool of his own blood. Before he left however, the killer did one thing - he made an incision in the area containing the liver and ripped the vital organ out.
****
El Diablo has been killed!
Day II begins! This day phase will conclude at about 19:00 (GMT+1) on Sunday the the 13th of July. This is a total of 60 hours - an extension is needed to optimise the timings for my own personal schedule.
Alive (17):
Andres
anelious phyros
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
FactionHeir
GeneralHankerchief
makaikhaan
Quintus.J.Cicero
Rythmic
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Tratorix
Lynched (1):
pevergreen (formerly peverpink)
Killed (1):
El Diablo
WoGed (0):
Suicided (0):
BTW, Ichigo, thanks for your offer - I'll drop you a PM if somebody is WoGed or suicided :bow:
Vote : makaikhaan
Talk :whip:
Tratorix - 1 (El Diablo)
There could be a coincidence. Might as well Tratorix should come and defend himself, it could be framing.
TevashSzat
07-11-2008, 16:28
Vote : makaikhaan
Talk :whip:
I need to hear some talking from him too...Vote: makaikhaan
Tally:
makaikhaan 2 (Andres, TevashSzat)
seireikhaan
07-11-2008, 17:41
Hmm, talk? About what? Well, lets see, I went to orientation for uni a couple days ago, found out my roommate is an evangelical redneck, my room is boiling hot in the summer, played 3 straight full court games of basketball at our very nice rec center, and I signed up for my classes, most of which don't have anything to do with my major, but are instead core classes that uni makes us take anyways.
Vote: FactionHeir, for antagonizing people with the :clown:
Hmmmmmm...
This morning when I came in for a look at the thread I distinctively remember there was another paragraph in the write-up, however, due to the fact that I really need to go I did not read it and only looked at who had died...
What are you hiding from us Omanes? :inquisitive:
GeneralHankerchief
07-11-2008, 18:57
Vote: FactionHeir
I really don't like the way he's been acting. He's maintaining way too much that Andres and/or Craterus is mafia when really, it's been proven that there's no way of knowing. I think in my explanation post he totally discounted it and said that he couldn't trust it because I might be scum.
I'd like a little more than that dismissive refutation, please, but even that probably won't be enough for me to change my vote.
Cronos Impera
07-11-2008, 20:28
Vote: Caius
I keep constant to my previous vote for the same obvious reasons....and will keep doing that untill the end.
Beefy187
07-11-2008, 23:22
FOS: FH
He doesnt talk this much usually does he? :inquisitive:
couple of peoples who are being quiet. Quintus J Cicero, Crazed Rabbit and Tratorix. Where are you all?
Vote: Cronos Impera
If your reason is because Caius is lurking then I dont think its valid seeing as now Caius has posted more then you.
Craterus
07-12-2008, 10:59
vote: Crazed Rabbit
I really have no idea at this stage but he did call me Dutch.
Quintus.JC
07-12-2008, 12:27
Vote: anelious phyros
anelious and Elite Ferret both annoced that they will be absent for some time, while EliteFerret is completely absent from the guild altogether anelious had recently posted in the guild and gameroom, if he has internet access then I don't see why he should completely blank out of this game.
Quintus.JC
07-12-2008, 12:28
Do we have a clear idea how many mafia are in this game?
Beefy187
07-12-2008, 13:24
Just by judging from the amount of players there should roughly be about 1 mafia to every 7 townies. We got 18 so we got at least 2 and perhaps a serial killer to fill the remaining players. So I am guessing about 3+ a killer roles seeing as we got some special roles eg the prostitute clan to aid us townies.
anelious and Elite Ferret both annoced that they will be absent for some time, while EliteFerret is completely absent from the guild altogether anelious had recently posted in the guild and gameroom, if he has internet access then I don't see why he should completely blank out of this game.
Let's put some more pressure on phyros.
vote: anelious phyros
Tally:
khaan: 2 (Andres, TevashSzat)
FH: 2 (GH, khaan)
phyros: 2 (Cicero, Sigurd)
Cronos: 1 (Beefy)
CR: 1 (Craterus)
Caius: 1 (Cronos)
not voting: 8 (phyros, Caius, CR, EF, FH, Rythmic, shlin, Tratorix)
anelious phyros
07-12-2008, 16:56
Let's put some more pressure on phyros.
vote: anelious phyros
Tally:
khaan: 2 (Andres, TevashSzat)
FH: 2 (GH, khaan)
phyros: 2 (Cicero, Sigurd)
Cronos: 1 (Beefy)
CR: 1 (Craterus)
Caius: 1 (Cronos)
not voting: 8 (phyros, Caius, CR, EF, FH, Rythmic, shlin, Tratorix)
Uh, i'm not playing the game. I'm on vacation. Even though i've decided to play in Girrafee game.~:cheers: But I don't have enough time to participate in this mafia game so like I said i'm out of it. You can still lynch me if you want though.~D
Crazed Rabbit
07-12-2008, 18:01
vote: Crazed Rabbit
I really have no idea at this stage but he did call me Dutch.
It was a Capo II joke.
CR
Craterus
07-12-2008, 18:11
It was? I didn't get it. :shrug:
Quintus.JC
07-12-2008, 19:04
Just by judging from the amount of players there should roughly be about 1 mafia to every 7 townies. We got 18 so we got at least 2 and perhaps a serial killer to fill the remaining players. So I am guessing about 3+ a killer roles seeing as we got some special roles eg the prostitute clan to aid us townies.
Strangely there's only been one kill in the first night, seeing there's 3+ mafias.
FoS: Andres or Craterus, one of them is likely to be the mafia or at least have a secret role.
FactionHeir
07-12-2008, 19:23
Sorry for my inactivity. Got caught up moderating another forum and testing Versus (great browser game btw, PM me if you want the link). Unlikely that my activity for this game is going to be any good, so lynch me if you must.
vote:Cronos
Because Beefy has a point.
GeneralHankerchief
07-12-2008, 19:28
Strangely there's only been one kill in the first night, seeing there's 3+ mafias.
FoS: Andres or Craterus, one of them is likely to be the mafia or at least have a secret role.
I thought we already went through this. :wall:
Quintus.JC
07-12-2008, 19:33
I thought we already went through this. :wall:
With no end result, the two of them are still alive.
Omanes has not responded to my post about the missing paragraph, so therefore I have to conclude that it must be true.
I will Vote: FactionHeir, he has yet to accuse me, which is a very very very big difference from the other two games, suggesting therefore he does not have a townie role, and hence my vote.
On the killing front, I believe that there may be other kills, but are foiled by doctor roles/prostitute groups. :bow:
FactionHeir
07-12-2008, 23:30
Eh I have no reason to accuse you at the moment....in the other I actually did.
Crazed Rabbit
07-12-2008, 23:40
It was? I didn't get it. :shrug:
I accused you, via Louis, of being a Don (which you were, just not the one I thought) in Capo II as I thought the Don lived in the Netherlands, and you had a bunch of posts in the Dutch Member's Thread, Aka the Speak Your Own Language Thread.
CR
Craterus
07-13-2008, 00:21
Ah yes, I remember now. Forgot it was you that made that link.
Vote: Caius
I keep constant to my previous vote for the same obvious reasons....and will keep doing that untill the end.
That won't get you somewhere. Its pointless.
Vote: makaikhaan
For giving a poor reason to vote.
seireikhaan
07-13-2008, 03:16
That won't get you somewhere. Its pointless.
Vote: makaikhaan
For giving a poor reason to vote.
:inquisitive: Where?
TevashSzat
07-13-2008, 13:25
Okay...my vote on khaan after Andres was just a pressure vote to have him start talking, but now it seems like he might get lynched. IMO, his actions are just lurky and not that scummy.
FH, however, was way too aggressive the first round, but then suddenly very passive this round. Therefore, I will unvote, vote: FactionHeir
Tally:
FH: 4 (GH, khaan,shlin28,TevashSzat)
khaan: 2 (Andres, Caius)
phyros: 2 (Cicero, Sigurd)
Cronos: 2 (Beefy,FH)
CR: 1 (Craterus)
Caius: 1 (Cronos)
not voting: 5 (phyros, CR, EF, Rythmic, Tratorix)
anelious phyros
07-13-2008, 13:32
not voting: 5 (phyros, CR, EF, Rythmic, Tratorix)
None of really do realize i'm not playing do you? Wow,some peole just don't listen.
Cronos Impera
07-13-2008, 14:01
Unvote: Caius
Vote: FactionHeir
Because he is a bandwaggon.
Because he is a bandwaggon.
Huh? You are the bandwagonner more like :inquisitive:
My Internet connection died. All better now, (at the moment at least).
My brain's too tired to properly go over the thread now, will look in the morning.
Craterus
07-13-2008, 17:54
None of really do realize i'm not playing do you? Wow,some peole just don't listen.
Have you told Omanes you don't want to play? Ichigo could take your place.
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-13-2008, 21:01
Day II Conclusion
As the day drew to a close and the votes were counted, it turned out that FactionHeir was the one who was to endure the lynch. His body was slowly lowered into a bubbling cauldron containing boiling water. As his feet entered the substance, his screams were heard throughout the surrounding area as the flesh was boiled away from the bone. After the process was complete, FactionHeir's skeleton and the remaining flesh upon it was thrown to the dogs to be consumed.
****
Elsewhere, the remains of anelious phyros were found hanging from a noose in one of the brothel's rooms. A note left beside him stated that he feared the risk of death from a puritans' knife and so had chosen the honourable option. Strangley enough, however, another man, Ichigo, had appeared as if to replace him, falling out of the Brothel's cellar after being locked down several nights previously. He claimed it was due to him failing to pay a prostitute her fee, but as things were in the brothel at the time, nobody could be sure if this, or even the statement left in phyros' note, was or was not truth.
FactionHeir has been lynched and anelious phyros has been replaced by Ichigo!
Tally:
FactionHeir - 5 (makaikhaan, GeneralHankerchief, shlin28, TevashSzat, Cronos Impera)
makaikhaan - 2 (Andres, Caius)
anelious phyros - 2 (Quintus.J.Cicero, Sigurd Fasnesbane)
Cronos Impera - 2 (Beefy187, FactionHeir)
Crazed Rabbit - 1 (Craterus)
Night II begins! All actions must be PMed to me by approximately 19:00 (GMT+1) on Monday the 14th of July. This is a total of about 24-hrs.
Alive (16):
Andres
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
Quintus.J.Cicero
Rythmic
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Tratorix
Lynched (2):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Killed (1):
El Diablo (N1)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
El Diablo
07-13-2008, 21:28
***A ghostly and probably ghastly aparition appeared floating in the hallways of the house of ill repute***
In a raspy, hollow breath he spoke..
"I know... who killed me.... it was... C..no ..S.. no"
(I have no idea - *sigh*)
Quintus.JC
07-13-2008, 21:46
Okay, I suppose it's safe to assume that anelious phyros was a townie. Looks like I was wrong to suspect him. :sweatdrop:
anelious phyros
07-13-2008, 21:54
Okay, I suppose it's safe to assume that anelious phyros was a townie. Looks like I was wrong to suspect him. :sweatdrop:
Hmm.......Interesting.~:cheers:
Quintus.JC
07-13-2008, 22:00
At least you died with honour. I guess an apology is too late now, but better late than never..... I'm sorry... ~:mecry:
anelious phyros
07-13-2008, 22:05
At least you died with honour. I guess an apology is too late now, but better late than never..... I'm sorry... ~:mecry:
It's okay, I love you too.
vote:Quintus (This is what everybody should do! :yes:)
Quintus.JC
07-13-2008, 22:08
vote:Quintus (This is what everybody should do! :yes:)
What about Sigurd, I don't deserve to take all the blame surely. :no:
Wait a minute, why am I apologizing. You didn't get lynched, you simply comitted suicide.
anelious phyros
07-13-2008, 22:32
:chinese:
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-14-2008, 19:23
Night II Conclusion
Tratorix was sat up in one of the brothel's bed. He was preparing to go to sleep after spending a while considering his life and situation.
Suddenly, after the sound of rushing air, a heavy javelin was embedded in Tratorix's back. After a few seconds of trying to remain stable, Tratorix collapsed into a heap on the ground in a pool of his own blood. The killer approached him and ripped the spear out of his back, but, before leaving, he made an incision in the chest and plucked out Tratorix's still beating heart.
****
Elsewhere, Rythmic was fast asleep. He never saw a group of men walk into his room and he failed to see the knife as it hovered above his head. The first he knew of his approaching death was when he suddenly awoke as the dagger pierced the skin.
****
Tratorix and Rythmic have been killed!
Day III begins! This day phase will conclude at about 19:00 (GMT+1) on Wednesday the the 16th of July. This is a total of 48 hours.
Alive (14):
Andres
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
Quintus.J.Cicero
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Lynched (2):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Killed (3):
El Diablo (N1)
Tratorix (N2)
Rythmic (N2)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
One kill by the puritans and one by the prostitutes it seems.
Are there only two puritans among us?
Each Puritan can choose to kill one person every two nights by sending me a PM.
One kill last night and only one kill this night. This speaks of at least two.
I wonder at their strategy though.
It would be obvious that we would think Andres, Craterus and Ichigo are more or less innocent due to their late arrivals.
The game should have been balanced before they joined and by not removing them, the puritans decrease the suspicious pool pretty fast.
I am going to vote:TevashSzat again. The reason is his very first post. He seemed to be slightly annoyed that the game started with a lynch. And it was also a subtle reprimand of the game host. I can't imagine that a pro-town would be annoyed with the opportunity of getting rid of a Mafioso as the start of the game.
GeneralHankerchief
07-14-2008, 20:50
I am going to vote:TevashSzat again. The reason is his very first post. He seemed to be slightly annoyed that the game started with a lynch. And it was also a subtle reprimand of the game host. I can't imagine that a pro-town would be annoyed with the opportunity of getting rid of a Mafioso as the start of the game.
Have we ever lynched a mafioso or the like on the first day before any kills were posted, ever?
Craterus
07-14-2008, 21:01
vote: TevashSzat
This is mostly instinct but Sigurd raises a good point and I'm not sure what else there is to go on so I'd like to hear a little more from Tevash. We'll see how things develop though. I should be back before the phase ends to re-evaluate.
Have we ever lynched a mafioso or the like on the first day before any kills were posted, ever?
argumentum ad antiquitatum :mellow:.
Even if this is true in the past, the chance is still there. And 1 in 20 is still a greater chance than playing the lottery. The luck might strike.
Who knows, maybe we did lynch a mafioso on day 1. I guess the final round with its results will reveal this.
One kill by the puritans and one by the prostitutes it seems.
The kill on Tratorix seems mafia, the second kill is made by "a group of men".
I assumed the prostitutes were female? Does this mean we are trapped in a brothel filled with male prostitutes :inquisitive:
I don't know about your preferences guys, but I for one want to get out of this place, the faster the better...
Vote : FactionHeir
anelious phyros
07-15-2008, 00:01
The kill on Tratorix seems mafia, the second kill is made by "a group of men".
I assumed the prostitutes were female? Does this mean we are trapped in a brothel filled with male prostitutes :inquisitive:
I don't know about your preferences guys, but I for one want to get out of this place, the faster the better...
Vote : FactionHeir
I'm not in this game but i'd just like to point out FactionHeir is already dead Andres.~D
seireikhaan
07-15-2008, 00:02
I'm going to Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane. Don't you usually have to be killed before you go trying to lead the lynch?:inquisitive: I smell something fishy.
seireikhaan
07-15-2008, 00:03
The kill on Tratorix seems mafia, the second kill is made by "a group of men".
I assumed the prostitutes were female? Does this mean we are trapped in a brothel filled with male prostitutes :inquisitive:
I don't know about your preferences guys, but I for one want to get out of this place, the faster the better...
Vote : FactionHeir
:inquisitive: FactionHeir was lynched, Andres.:inquisitive:
:shame:
Unvote : FactionHeir
:creep:
FactionHeir
07-15-2008, 00:09
I think Andres did this intentionally to make himself appear innocent as if "he wasn't paying attention so he can't be mafia"
GeneralHankerchief
07-15-2008, 00:43
Sigurd, I've argued the exact same thing Tevash did (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1664693&postcount=49) when I was innocent in the past. And, according to the very next post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1664700&postcount=50), it wasn't the first time I'd done so either. Expressing annoyance at the game format isn't an indicator for guilt by any means.
Vote: Sigurd
If you don't mind, I'd like to turn the conversation in the direction of your sudden change in behavior.
-edit- Actually, don't take that second link too much to heart. Turns out CA was a bad guy in that game. :shrug:
Sigurd, I've argued the exact same thing Tevash did (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1664693&postcount=49) when I was innocent in the past. And, according to the very next post (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1664700&postcount=50), it wasn't the first time I'd done so either. Expressing annoyance at the game format isn't an indicator for guilt by any means.
Vote: Sigurd
If you don't mind, I'd like to turn the conversation in the direction of your sudden change in behavior.
-edit- Actually, don't take that second link too much to heart. Turns out CA was a bad guy in that game. :shrug:
Hehe... Yes and I got caught doing the same to EF in the Star wars mafia.
I am just looking for players that slip up. And we don't have much do we? There is not much discussion going on.
The only two players that have caught my notice is TevashSzat and shlin. The first seemed to gently reprimand the gamehost. Something I have done as mafia before. If you have anything else, please lay it before us for examination.
The first seemed to gently reprimand the gamehost. Something I have done as mafia before.
You did that as a townie as well in the past. I believe it was also in the Secret Formula...
So, you're additional reasoning for voting TevashSzat...? And Craterus, what did you mean about "instinct"? Which post made by Tevash triggered your "instinct"?
Craterus
07-15-2008, 11:42
It's mostly based on that he's tended to vote as part of a bloc and perhaps latched onto popular targets (moreso with FactionHeir but also with makaikhaan). He's also more precise than most others with why he's voting. He offers an explanation with each vote. Trying a little too hard to be townie, IMO.
I could (easily) be wrong of course but, until I think there's a stronger case, I'll keep the vote.
You did that as a townie as well in the past. I believe it was also in the Secret Formula...
I will not claim I didn't as I can't recall the game. Is that where pevergreen got a hold of a mafia pm?
So, you're additional reasoning for voting TevashSzat...?
There are no additional reason for voting Tevash. I mentioned shlin as a second player that caught my attention. I am not ready yet to share my thoughts on that in public.
There are no additional reason for voting Tevash. I mentioned shlin as a second player that caught my attention. I am not ready yet to share my thoughts on that in public.
Why not sharing your thoughts in public?
:inquisitive:
Vote : Sigurd Fafnesbane
Share your thoughts :whip:
TevashSzat
07-15-2008, 14:14
I am going to vote:TevashSzat again. The reason is his very first post. He seemed to be slightly annoyed that the game started with a lynch. And it was also a subtle reprimand of the game host. I can't imagine that a pro-town would be annoyed with the opportunity of getting rid of a Mafioso as the start of the game.
The thing is that we will have nothing to go on without a lynch and mafia often aren't stupid enough to make themselves suspicious that early and get themselves lynched. We basically had a 1 in 10 chance or so of getting someone scummy, which imo was not too good.
Also, first round lynches tend to not be too logical or well thought out. I remembered this one game where in either the first or second round, someone started a customary early voting on Sasaki or someone like that as a joke/not seriously and then before you know it Sasaki (not positive it was him) was tied to be lynched.
I will Vote:sigurd atm for using poor logic.
Tally:
Sigurd 4 (GH, khaan, Andres, Sigurd)
TevashSzat 2 (Craterus, Sigurd)
So.. I am being lynched because I am the only one that actually postulates a candidate for this lynch with any reasoning?
I have not stated that my logic for voting Tevash is strong, But I haven't seen any other players giving any better.
That I have 4 votes because of opening my mouth before being killed, speaks of even poorer logic. :stare:
Oh sure, accuse me :furious3: What did I do anyway?
Sigurd's reasoning for voting TevashSzat is also a bit off... a game that starts with a day phase creates no useful discussion as there have been no kills... if there are any kills, then at least we can talk about something. Most games start with kills I think because of this.
On the otherhand if I did vote Sigurd I'll be a bandwagonner, so I'll pick on someone else.
Vote: Cronos Impera
Poor reasoning for voting FH, as stated before :bow:
Oh sure, accuse me :furious3: What did I do anyway?
Nobody have accused you of anything ... yet. :mellow:
Ok ... Andres.
I have explained to you via pm and I know you read it at 15:22 [GMT+2] It is now 19:18 [GMT+2]
Why have you not replied or changed your vote?
unvote:TevashSzat, vote: Andres
Why not sharing your thoughts in public?
:inquisitive:
Vote : Sigurd Fafnesbane
Share your thoughts :whip:
If Sigurd shared the thoughts, then why are you still voting him?
Vote:Tevash
That is not poor logic. If you were mafia, you would like to start killing. Thats not poor logic.
TevashSzat
07-15-2008, 20:07
Did some thinking now and believe that while Sigurd's logic was off, it wasn't really glaringly scummy, and he doesn't really need to be lynched because he is giving that much of a threat. The 4 votes on him, though, might easily turn into a big bandwagon which makes lynching anyone else impossible for this round.
Thus, I will Vote: Craterus whose post right after Sigurd's I skipped over. IMO, Sigurd didn't raise that good of a point so Craterus was just usiing Sigurd's observation as an excuse to vote on someone.
@Caius
Need I explain more? The odds of lynching the mafia the very first round, which, to my recollection, has never happened before are slim at best. Instead, those lynched are just the results of aimless bandwagoning. The following round often results in the lynching on whichever townie that was unlucky enoguh to vote at the last second or break the tie vote between two people, which again, mafia would probably not do. Sure, starting off at night gives the mafia an extra night to kill, but it at least gives us potentially more clues than just starting off randomly voting.
Tally:
Sigurd 3 (GH, khaan, Andres)
TevashSzat 2 (Craterus, Caius)
Andres 1 (Sigurd)
Cronos 1 (shlin28)
Craterus 1 (Tevash)
Craterus
07-15-2008, 20:10
I specifically didn't latch onto Sigurd's reasoning because it's weak. EDIT: Hmmm, looks like I did a bit. But I also had my own reasons given in the later post.
You'd be better off arguing against those crappy reasons for voting you.
Also, you misspelt your own name in the tally. ~;)
TevashSzat
07-15-2008, 22:22
It's mostly based on that he's tended to vote as part of a bloc and perhaps latched onto popular targets (moreso with FactionHeir but also with makaikhaan). He's also more precise than most others with why he's voting. He offers an explanation with each vote. Trying a little too hard to be townie, IMO.
I could (easily) be wrong of course but, until I think there's a stronger case, I'll keep the vote.
So....let me get this right. You voted for me because I was offering plausible suspicions instead of just randomly bandwagoning on whoever?
Craterus
07-15-2008, 22:34
Yes. As mafia, I always made it look like I was giving substantial reasons for my votes. Not too substantial but enough to make it look like I'd given it some thought. Your votes strike me as similar.
You have also been the one to make tallies and ask for them to be updated. A very good way to appear a helpful townie.
GeneralHankerchief
07-15-2008, 23:19
How sad it is that we've reached the point where the majority of people goof off and instantly suspect the person who is trying to actually be proactive. :no:
Craterus
07-15-2008, 23:35
Yes, the behaviour's commendable but I still think it's an easy role for mafia to exploit. :shrug:
EDIT: I'm a bit surprised at your reaction though. Lurkers always have a better chance of survival while the active players scrutinise each other's posts and lynch each other.
w00t, I'm still alive!
And have no idea what is going on, I have some reading to do...
Beefy187
07-15-2008, 23:47
From the candidates so far ill have to choose Cronos. The reason for killing FH was very poor revenge vote. Although that makes him more likely townie because mafia wouldnt dare get attention like that but then again reverse phycology and...
Also his reason for voting Caius wasnt that great either.
I guess its better to kill him off just to make sure
Vote: Cronos
As for Sigurds post I cant say that was a good points he raised but I dont think its enough to make him guilty.
Tally:
Sigurd 3 (GH, khaan, Andres)
TevashSzat 2 (Craterus, Caius)
Andres 1 (Sigurd)
Cronos 2 (shlin28, Beefy)
Craterus 1 (Tevash)
I'm going to tie the lynch to not lynch Sigurd and lets thing this a bit more:
Unvote:Tevash
Vote:Cronos
At least to me, Sigurd is trying to help us, and we are trying to get him lynched!
GeneralHankerchief
07-16-2008, 02:48
I'm going to tie the lynch to not lynch Sigurd and lets thing this a bit more:
Unvote:Tevash
Vote:Cronos
At least to me, Sigurd is trying to help us, and we are trying to get him lynched!
Or maybe because Cronos is a newbie and he's an easy lynch. :wall:
Or maybe because Cronos is a newbie and he's an easy lynch. :wall:
Cronos has played in other games I think.
GeneralHankerchief
07-16-2008, 04:36
Name them.
GeneralHankerchief
07-16-2008, 04:44
Nevermind, I took the liberty of actually searching myself.
Cronos did play in the Camel Killers game in May but his only post was to declare himself playing. To find the next mafia game he played in, we have to go back a year and a half to early 2007:
- "Blood" - ended prematurely due to host inactivity
- "The Legend of Davenport" - mini game, fairly active
Really, it's not much.
Crazed Rabbit
07-16-2008, 05:36
So Sigurd or Cronos, basically?
I gotta say, I don't really see the reason for the votes on Sigurd. GH's vote was based on GH's past behavior, and I don't see it as a compelling argument. Both GH and Khaan voted for Sigurd and accused him, basically, of being too active. Activity is something we need to see more of right now. Andres's vote was a simple bandwagon.
As for Cronos. he doesn't scream out guilty to me, but for this post:
Unvote: Caius
Vote: FactionHeir
Because he is a bandwaggon.
which was a revenge, bandwagon vote.
So I will vote: Cronos.
CR
GeneralHankerchief
07-16-2008, 05:38
Both GH and Khaan voted for Sigurd and accused him, basically, of being too active.
Incorrect. I accused him of a radical change in behavior compared to his past games. He seems much more like the cautious mafioso Sigurd than the "crazy townie" Sigurd.
Cronos Impera
07-16-2008, 08:07
Vote: Caius
Nobody have accused you of anything ... yet. :mellow:
Ok ... Andres.
I have explained to you via pm and I know you read it at 15:22 [GMT+2] It is now 19:18 [GMT+2]
Why have you not replied or changed your vote?
unvote:TevashSzat, vote: Andres
You pm explains why you did not vote a certain player, but it didn't explain why you voted TevashSzat :shrug:
Something smells fishy about you Sigurd.
Vote: Caius
Maybe you should add some reasoning to your vote, you know. After all, you are pretty close to getting lynched.
pevergreen
07-16-2008, 08:20
I will not claim I didn't as I can't recall the game. Is that where pevergreen got a hold of a mafia pm?
I did what?
Ok... We have 10 hours left of this voting period.
Let's get some meat on the bone shall we? The Mafia is in the informed minority and it is imperative that we as townies step up and become informed.
The facts:
There should be at least two groups of prostitutes consisting of 3 to 4 people.
Due to the low number of players we should assume only 3 players in each group.
These two groups can protect or kill, but if they do nothing they each have a 50% chance of surviving an attack.
6 of us are in these two groups.
Then you have the pious Mafiosi.
I would think that the game started with at least 2 of them.
They can each kill one player every two nights. This fits with one kill every night.
Then we got two new players after the game had started.
My initial instinct says that they are innocent as 2 mafiosi could easily win even with the increased amount of players.
Then I am thinking; Omanes mentioned secret roles, and 6 prostitutes having the ability to kill 2 every night or protect 2 every night or do nothing and leaving it hard for the mafia to kill those 6, speaks of a tough game for mafiosi that only can kill every other night.
Ok... maybe there are 3 mafiosi.
The suspects:
I know there might be as many as 6 prostitutes, but I am not going to reveal who I think they are other than not listing them on my suspicion short list.
Craterus or Andres I initially put on the innocent list.
phyros suicided giving up his place to Ichigo. No sane mafioso would give up their place.
That's 3 down.
Beefy strikes me as being a good townie and I put him on the semi-innocent list.
Elite Ferret has been away - might be innocent.
Caius has my back so he is in my good book.
Crazed Rabbit could have nailed the lid of my coffin but didn't ... not in the clear.
Cronos Impera is too noobish and misunderstood the bandwagon thing, I can't see the the guilt yet.
GH only classical townie behavior so far. But not at all in the clear.
I mentioned that shlin got my attention, but I am leaning to him being pro-town. Anything in the lost paragraph you claim Omanes put up that you want to share with us? You only had a 2 minute window to read it before Omanes took it away. Maybe you scolded the host for not putting in something that should have been there? This is what I told Andres, but he never replied in the thread or via pm.
TevashSzat well he is still on my suspicion short list that now has 3 names.
makaikhaan - voted me with the poor excuse of me taking charge of the lynch when I usually do this after being dead. In this game nothing was happening on the townie side, so I took charge.
That leaves Quintus J. Cicero.
Right now I will be bold and say that Tevash, makaikhaan and Quintus are our 3 mafiosi.
If FH was right in his assertion about late players, I would now lean towards putting Andres in there instead of any of the 3 I mentioned.
We know El Diablo and Tratorix was killed by the mafia, while Rythmic was killed by a group of prostitutes. Why Rythmic I wonder?
Any others wanting to give their thoughts?
Let's compare notes.
The Mafia is in the informed minority and it is imperative that we as townies step up and become informed.
Is that why you used pm instead of the thread to try to convince me?
I mentioned that shlin got my attention, but I am leaning to him being pro-town. Anything in the lost paragraph you claim Omanes put up that you want to share with us? You only had a 2 minute window to read it before Omanes took it away. Maybe you scolded the host for not putting in something that should have been there? This is what I told Andres, but he never replied in the thread or via pm.
Check post #192 of this thread.
Is that why you used pm instead of the thread to try to convince me?
Initially it was because I wouldn't possibly give away a pro-town role. But when writing that pm to you I realized the possible connection. The small time frame that shlin could have been able to read Omanes' post makes it unlikely that he caught a paragraph that was removed. I have been thinking hard on this and I am strongly leaning on the possibility that shlin wanting something to be mentioned in the first night that was not narrated. Of course shlin could just confirm this and we would be in the clear. I hardly doubt a mafioso would dare putting his neck out like that and I therefore think shlin is pro-town. If the mafia didn't know, well...
Check post #192 of this thread.
Saw it and am little less suspicious of you. I'll give it to you, you stick to your norm. Nothing more to say.
Quintus.JC
07-16-2008, 09:22
Vote: Caius
Vote: Cronos Impera
Defend yourself man, you’re almost lynched. :inquisitive:
unvote: Andres, vote makaikhaan.
I think we should try removing a possible mafioso this round. Tevash is by all means not off my list, but the khaan is looking more guilty right now.
Tally:
Cronos Impera: 5 (Beefy, Caius, CR, shlin, Quintus)
Sigurd Fafnesbane : 3 (Andres, GH, khaan)
TevashSzat: 1 (Craterus)
Caius: 1 (Cronos)
khaan: 1 (Sigurd)
not voting: 2 (EF, Ichigo)
Vote: Cronos Impera
Defend yourself man, you’re almost lynched. :inquisitive:
He indeed is almost lynched, so why the need for an additional vote?
What is your reason for voting Cronos?
Vote: Cronos Impera
Defend yourself man, you’re almost lynched. :inquisitive:
I saw via your profile that you just spent an fairly amount of time in this thread, yet you are happy to lynch Cronos.
Why didn't you answer Andres?
And what do you think of my recent analysis?
Cronos Impera
07-16-2008, 13:29
Ok...here I'm going to make my plea for life.
1. The bandwaggon accusation
I made that because FH jumped at my throat hours after Beefy "complained" about my strategies. I must confess that at that time my intuition and suspicions turned on Caius, but after that post and seeing FH was facing immeadiate lynching I changed my vote due cause.
2. The crusade against Caius
As I said earlier I honestly believed him to be a puritan, and his organised pattern kept him out of the public eye so to speak. I might have exagerated a bit but I lack some experience and this was taken as a sign of guilt. Let me remind you that I once played as Don Flameheart in "The Legend of Davenport" and back then when I tried to force them on different lead I wold spread rumors. Than my target was pevergreen.
3. The "execution comitee" inquiry
Let's see now who's voting against me and their reasons for doing so.
Beefy: can't really comment
Caius : retaliation
CR : target of opportunity
shlin : your vote dissapoints me
Quintus : target of opportunity
And since Sigurd has posted this excellent analysis I'm inclined to renounce my blind ego and go for a reasonable voting policy.
Unvote: Caius
Vote:Quintus
I apologise Caius, I defend myself against you Quintus.
PS: Happy Birthday Sigurd.
Unvote ; Vote : Quintus.J.Cicero
Please, answer me.
I am about to go out for some dinner with loved ones, and I'll probably not be back until long after the lynch.
In short: It is my opinion and strong encouragement that we lynch a mafioso to day.
Quintus is as good as makaikhaan.
unvote: makaikhaan, vote: Quintus J. Cicero
TevashSzat
07-16-2008, 14:52
Okay....really big mess here.
Basically, everyone just bandwagoned on Cronos because Beefy added a second vote, great job guys, and it might just be a mafia cover for Sigurd, their buddy.
Quintus's recent vote against Cronos, though, strikes me as much more suspicious. Thus, I will unvote, vote:Quintus
Again, I admire how people are still suspicious of me for trying to be proactive. I happen to be at a summer job right now with ALOT of downtime so I just go around the forums and post alot, and thus I am spending more attention to mafia games than I have earlier.
Tally:
Cronos Impera: 5 (Beefy, Caius, CR, shlin, Quintus)
Quintus 3 (Cronos, Andres, Tevash)
Sigurd Fafnesbane : 2 (GH, khaan)
TevashSzat: 1 (Craterus)
khaan: 1 (Sigurd)
not voting: 2 (EF, Ichigo)
Cronos has defended himself and I believe him. Also, the tie I tried to do its broken and I am voting him for nothing
Unvote:Cronos
DOES EVERYONE HAS TO FOLLOW MY VOTE??? You guys just totally bandwagonned onto Cronos even though he hasn't made a comeback yet... You guys did the same with FactionHeir too... I'm very disapointed in you people :no:
Unvote: Cronos Impera
Vote: Caius
Bandwagonning twice onto my bandwagon eh? :inquisitive:
Quintus.JC
07-16-2008, 16:21
Unvote ; Vote : Quintus.J.Cicero
Please, answer me.
Because he did not explain his vote, and he voted for Caius just about every round.
Quintus.JC
07-16-2008, 16:23
Quintus's recent vote against Cronos, though, strikes me as much more suspicious. Thus, I will unvote, vote:Quintus
Why is that suspcious?
Quintus.JC
07-16-2008, 16:30
Now that Cronos Impera has spoken out I suppose I’ll have to change my vote. Now the table has really turned against me, I barely understand where all the accusations are coming from. Since Cronos’ voted for me everyone decide to join his side. Isn’t that called bandwaggoning too.
Unvote: Cronos Impera
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane.
Very voluminous analysis, has accused people with good reasoning, but seems too manipulative to me.
TevashSzat
07-16-2008, 16:42
@Quintus, you could just edit your original post you know
Hmmm. alot of confusing things here. People suspicious on my list: Quintus, Sigurd, Beefy. Less so: khaan
Both Quintus and Sigurd have been suspicious enough, in my mind, to be lynched, but I'm not sure whether either should necessarily be lynched. Well, its a tie atm and I guess we'll see how things go
Anyways,
Updated Tally:
Tally:
Quintus 3 (Cronos, Andres, Tevash)
Sigurd Fafnesbane : 3 (GH, khaan, Quintus)
Cronos Impera: 2 (Beefy, CR,)
TevashSzat: 1 (Craterus)
khaan: 1 (Sigurd)
Caius 1 (shlin28)
not voting: 2 (EF, Ichigo)
Quintus.JC
07-16-2008, 16:53
Both Quintus and Sigurd have been suspicious enough, in my mind, to be lynched, but I'm not sure whether either should necessarily be lynched. Well, its a tie atm and I guess we'll see how things go
Anyways,
Updated Tally:
Tally:
Quintus 4 (Cronos, Andres, Tevash, Sigurd)
Sigurd Fafnesbane : 3 (GH, khaan, Quintus)
Cronos Impera: 2 (Beefy, CR,)
TevashSzat: 1 (Craterus)
Caius 1 (shlin28)
not voting: 2 (EF, Ichigo)
Actually, it's not a tie. Sigurd has changed his vote to me, so I'll be lynched.
seireikhaan
07-16-2008, 17:55
Hm. I will Unvote: Sigurd Fafnesbane, and Vote: Quintus. Following the easy bandwagon, just like I'm doing right now. Also, I'm feeling a little more inclined towards letting Sigurd stay awhile longer, though I'm a bit confused as to why the suspicion towards me. Only thing I've heard so far is that I 'look guilty'. :confused:
EDIT:
Tally-
Both Quintus and Sigurd have been suspicious enough, in my mind, to be lynched, but I'm not sure whether either should necessarily be lynched. Well, its a tie atm and I guess we'll see how things go
Anyways,
Updated Tally:
Tally:
Quintus 5 (Cronos, Khaan, Andres, Tevash, Sigurd)
Sigurd Fafnesbane : 2 (GH, Quintus)
Cronos Impera: 2 (Beefy, CR,)
TevashSzat: 1 (Craterus)
Caius 1 (shlin28)
not voting: 2 (EF, Ichigo)
DOES EVERYONE HAS TO FOLLOW MY VOTE??? You guys just totally bandwagonned onto Cronos even though he hasn't made a comeback yet... You guys did the same with FactionHeir too... I'm very disapointed in you people :no:
Unvote: Cronos Impera
Vote: Caius
Bandwagonning twice onto my bandwagon eh? :inquisitive:
Huh? Your post is a bit outdated, y'know.
Do we know how many puritans there are at the moment? Sigurd sent me a PM saying cronos must survive so they could both be mafia, or both be prostitutes...
But I doubt Sigurd would expose himself like that so I'm gonna take his advice and
vote:khaan
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-16-2008, 21:57
Day III Conclusion
Quintus.J.Cicero, after the votes were counted, found himself enduring the lynch. Quintus was to be hanged. As he was hung up to die, and the noose was slowly tightened around his neck, Quintus remained emotionless making no sound till his final breath.
****
Quintus.J.Cicero has been lynched!
Tally:
Quintus.J.Cicero - 5 (Cronos Impera, makaikhaan, Andres, TevashSzat, Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sigurd Fafnesbane - 2 (GeneralHankerchief, Quintus.J.Cicero)
Cronos Impera - 2 (Beefy187, CrazedRabbit)
TevashSzat - 1 (Craterus)
Caius - 1 (shlin28)
makaikhaan - 1 (Elite Ferret)
Night III begins! All actions must be PMed to me by approximately 22:00 (GMT+1) on Thursday the 17th of July. This is a total of about 24-hrs.
Alive (13):
Andres
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
TevashSzat
Lynched (3):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Quintus.J.Cicero (D3)
Killed (3):
El Diablo (N1)
Tratorix (N2)
Rythmic (N2)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
Beefy187
07-17-2008, 02:32
Looked like a awkwardly bad move made by a townie. But if that doesnt get someone lynched what would?
Better luck next time Quintus... Unless your a mafia.:inquisitive:
Quintus.JC
07-17-2008, 17:58
What did I do to get lynched, is it something I said?
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-17-2008, 22:09
Night III Conclusion
TevashSzat was gradually drifting in and out of sleep. Both exhaustion and vigilance were keeping Tevash in this state - if the puritans came for him, he wanted to be ready, but doing this for the past three nights hadn't really done his health much good.
Suddenly, a man wandered into the room. He was armed with what appeared to be a cross between a poorly designed club and a tree branch. TevashSzat instantly awoke and attempted to get out the bed to defend himself, but the attacker easily knocked his victim out. As he approached for the final kill, a figure emerged from behind. Unfortunately for this figure, the attacker almost appeared to be ready for this sort of assault, easily fending off the attempted saving of Tevash and knocking out the protector.
With the guardian un-concious and Tevash helpless, the attacker took out his dagger to finish his victim off.
****
Crazed Rabbit, unlike Tevash, was in a deep sleep, dreaming about the life that was always desired - wealth and riches rather than the poverty that was being suffered now. Regardless of this deep sleep Crazed Rabbit was suddenly awoken by a dramatic comotion that was occuring in the room. Three sillouettes were fighting against each other in a violent wreastling battle. Suddenly one of the figures removed a knife from his pocket, and lashed out causing them both to flee for their lives against this powerful assailent.
As the murdered approched, Crazed Rabbit attempted to defend himself, but soon was overpowered as he felt the metal enter his chest and watched blood spill across the floor.
Before leaving, the attacker made an incision in the area containing the kidneys. He removed one and, after cutting the second out, threw it across the room leaving a blood stain where it had hit the wall.
****
TevashSzat and Crazed Rabbit have been killed!
Day IV begins! This day phase will conclude at about 19:00 (GMT+1) on Saturday the the 19th of July. This is a total of about 45 hours.
Alive (11):
Andres
Beefy187
Caius
Craterus
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Lynched (3):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Quintus.J.Cicero (D3)
Killed (5):
El Diablo (N1)
Tratorix (N2)
Rythmic (N2)
TevashSzat (N3)
Crazed Rabbit (N3)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
Quintus.JC
07-17-2008, 22:16
Wow! Sword fights, I want to fight! Why am I dead?:furious3:
Crazed Rabbit
07-18-2008, 04:07
@($&&* Serial killer! I'll get you, in this life or in the next life!
And he took my kidneys. My beautiful, beautiful kidneys.
CR
Beefy187
07-18-2008, 04:44
Just out of interest how do you know who was killed by mafia and who by SK?
I wont be able to decide a who to vote just yet coz im posting this in my english class but I will soon as I get back.
TevashSzat
07-18-2008, 13:02
Gah!....damn mafia...
Where's Sigurd now?
I am right here friend ... reconsidering my whole analysis.
Ok so both Tevash and CR seemed to have been somewhat protected.
Tevash by a single character and CR by two.
We know that the prostitutes can protect players and have a default protecting system if they do nothing.
From Omanes prostitute pm:
On a night, if any members of your group have attempts made on their life, they have a chance of survival due to the protection provided by other group members. There is a 50% chance of survival when all three group members are alive and 25% when two group members are alive.
Also on a night you may, as a group, work together to kill or protect one player.
[...]
Bear in mind though, when you act all the protection provided by being in a group is lost, making all players as vulnerable as an ordinary client.
So ... CR might have been a prostitute. I don't know about Tevash though. Only one protecting. I hope we didn't lynch a prostitute yesterday.
Where is Ichigo? He begged to be in this game, but then resort to lurking? Why did phyros suicide? Was it because his lynch was imminent and wanted his role to survive? Was it a planned stunt? He saw that Ichigo wanted in and saw an opportunity to win by proxy. Who here would suspect this?
I think someone else needs to talk a bit.
Ichigo had to drop out of everything because his computer broke, he hasn't been online for ages so I don't think he is suspicious. I can see no reason for phyros suiciding though, he has remained active everywhere else on the org.
I still need to catch up before deciding anything...
TevashSzat
07-18-2008, 16:48
Hmm...I have strong suspicions that I was killed perhaps because my suspicions were nearing the identity of those in the mafia. As such, I strongly encourage people to take a second look at those who I listed earlier.
Crazed Rabbit
07-18-2008, 19:29
Just out of interest how do you know who was killed by mafia and who by SK?
I wont be able to decide a who to vote just yet coz im posting this in my english class but I will soon as I get back.
I'm taking a guess that the guy ripping out organs is a serial killer, but it could just be a puritan. Need to look up when the last time the organ ripper killed...
CR
Craterus
07-18-2008, 20:03
vote: Elite Ferret
He left on day 1, the mafia were inactive for the first (two?) nights. On Night 1, El Diablo was the only kill and was killed by the organ guy. I'm going to agree with Crazed Rabbit, this seems to be a serial killer rather than a puritan (he's only worked alone so far). On Night 2, Tratorix was killed by the probable serial killer and Rythmic is suspected to have been a prostitute kill - although I'm not sure about this.
However, since his return, mafia kills seem to have re-emerged, namely Tevash.
I would want to hear more from shlin28.
You mentioned another paragraph in the night 1 writeup. This might be important. Do you remember if it was another kill or something? Please elaborate.
There was a paragraph, but as I was busy and need to go off the computer (it was a morning) I just looked at who had died. It could be anything really, a failed attack perhaps? Omanes' silence could hint at that I was telling the truth... :clown:
Tevashzat has accused the following people:
Quintus, Sigurd, Beefy. Less so: khaan
Quintus we can cross off, leaving Sigurd, Beefy and Khaan. I think Beefy is the best vote for now, so Vote: Beefy
Quintus.JC
07-18-2008, 22:14
Generally I feel that Elite Ferret is innocent, Khaan, Beefy and Sigurd all got their share of suspicion, but something's bothering me about Cronos Impera...
Wasn't I away for more than two night phases Craterus? And nowadays most mafia games seem to let their partners send their orders in for them if one can't do it.
Craterus
07-18-2008, 23:56
Just a thought. You're just upset because you're a Betis fan. ~;)
Why would that make me upset? That makes me happy :beam:
Beefy187
07-19-2008, 11:54
vote: Elite Ferret
He left on day 1, the mafia were inactive for the first (two?) nights. On Night 1, El Diablo was the only kill and was killed by the organ guy. I'm going to agree with Crazed Rabbit, this seems to be a serial killer rather than a puritan (he's only worked alone so far). On Night 2, Tratorix was killed by the probable serial killer and Rythmic is suspected to have been a prostitute kill - although I'm not sure about this.
However, since his return, mafia kills seem to have re-emerged, namely Tevash.
Didnt someone (Shlin I think) claim that there was a paragraph which got edited out on night 1 or 2? Which possibly would be a mafia or SK attack getting repelled by the prostitute group. So we cannot assume that mafia was lurking the first few turns.
By the way sorry for the low activity. For some reason the org is really slow on my internet and just writing a reply can take about 10 minutes from here (loading the page takes 3 min and im hosting my mafia which takes a lot of my time. Plus my internet time is now limited because I have to use the boarding house computers for internet). And its getting more and more often. If there is anyone who wish to take my role ill gladly give it away.
As for suspects no one really stands up in my opinion. In couple turns I suggest protection group or killing group can declare them self so we got less suspects to worry about. Im guessing the mafia jumped on the easy bandwaggon for QJC and Cronos and makaikhaan is the 2 player im keeping my eyes on.
Vote: Cronos
He havnt spoke this round yet has he? Pressure vote
Cronos Impera
07-19-2008, 13:01
Vote:Beefy
He seems to be acting pro-town. But he is acting too pro-town for him to be a real townie....
GeneralHankerchief
07-19-2008, 17:13
All right, seeing as I won't be on until the 26th, here's some information for you, for what it's worth.
You are a client of the Brothel who has in the past worked as a spy. Essentially you are a detective.
During the day you may, as is the case with all other players, vote for whom you think has intentions opposed to the clients and prostitutes.
During the night, however, you have an additional ability. You may investigate one person with the aim of finding out their intentions. You will gain one of three results for each person:
Guilty - evidently anti-prostitution
Unclear - the results are unclear. A second investigation may be more conclusive.
Innocent - evidently pro-client/prostitutes
Results have a 25% chance of ending up in the unclear section for most roles, although for others the chance of this happening is much higher.
If you have any problems feel free to drop me a PM ~:)
Night 1: Didn't get PM in on time.
Night 2: TevashSzat: innocent
Night 3: Sigurd: Unclear.
I won't be on to do it, but the next night I would have ideally done a follow-up reveal on Sigurd. Since he's not cleared yet:
Vote: Sigurd
And to the mafia: Go ahead and kill me now. You're wasting a target.
See you in a week! ~:wave:
Quintus.JC
07-19-2008, 18:19
If I was still alive then Sigurd, Craterus and Cronos would be on my suspcion list. So for now vote: Z.... Wait a minute, I'm dead. :sweatdrop:
seireikhaan
07-19-2008, 18:32
Vote: Sigurd. Alright, talk. :whip:
Vote:Beefy
He seems to be acting pro-town. But he is acting too pro-town for him to be a real townie....
How is it possible to act too pro town for a townie? Beefy is trying to help, would you rather he he voted for townies eh puritan?
vote:cronos
I have no reason to doubt GH's claim.
However I am not guilty and neither will I be if being investigated again.
That Beefy now repeats my question to shlin, without seeming to acknowledge that it has been answered, speaks of not really paying attention to what is going on.
It could mean he is innocent. But his so far pro-townieness with good replies speaks of a player reading the game thoroughly.
But this last statement blows his cover and instead puts him in the informed minority. His pro-towniness is a result of knowing what is going on and he don't really need to pay close attention to what is going on.
That is what I think, and if he is a prostitute then I am full of crap.
vote:Beefy
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-19-2008, 20:27
Day IV Conclusion
As the sun set and the day concluded, it was discovered by a narrow margin that Beefy187 was to be lynched. The people of the brothel eventually decided to burn him to death. He was tied to pole in the brothels courtyard, and old twigs and bits of wood were thrown around the pole's base. As the kindling wood was lit, and the logs began to smoke, Beefy murmured unaudible words under his breath which continued as the flames engulfed him.
****
Beefy187 has been lynched!
Tally:
Beefy187 – 3 (shlin28, Cronos Impera, Sigurd Fafnesbane)
Sigurd Fafnesbane – 2 (GeneralHankerchief, makaikhaan)
Cronos Impera – 2 (Beefy187, Elite Ferret)
Elite Ferret – 1 (Craterus)
Night IV begins. All orders must be in by 20:00 (GMT+1) on Sunday the 20th of July. This is a total of 24-hrs.
Alive (10):
Andres
Caius
Craterus
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
shlin28
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Lynched (3):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Quintus.J.Cicero (D3)
Beefy187 (D4)
Killed (5):
El Diablo (N1)
Tratorix (N2)
Rythmic (N2)
TevashSzat (N3)
Crazed Rabbit (N3)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
Omanes Alexandrapolites
07-20-2008, 18:54
Night IV Conclusion
shlin28 was eating a supper of dry bread dipped in some sort of broth. shlin couldn't sleep, and felt that a little nutrition would maybe help him accompish this. He was sat with his back towards the door while he consumed the food which was a foolish mistake to make.
From behind him, a single man approached. Dagger drawn, ready to attack shlin's neck. Within the space of a few seconds, shlin was a bloody heap on the flaw with numerous stab wounds all over his corpse. The attacker smiled a smile filled with pure evil, but, before leaving, he took a larger serrated knife from his pockets, and used it to cut off shlin's leg.
****
shlin28 has been killed!
Day V begins! This day shall conclude at approximately 19:00 (GMT+1) on Tuesday the 22nd of July. This is a total of around about 48 hours.
Alive (9):
Andres
Caius
Craterus
Cronos Impera
Elite Ferret
GeneralHankerchief
Ichigo (joined D2 - replaced anelious phyros)
makaikhaan
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Lynched (4):
pevergreen (D1) (formerly peverpink)
FactionHeir (D2)
Quintus.J.Cicero (D3)
Beefy187 (D4)
Killed (6):
El Diablo (N1)
Tratorix (N2)
Rythmic (N2)
TevashSzat (N3)
Crazed Rabbit (N3)
shlin28 (N4)
WoGed (0):
Suicided (1):
anelious phyros (D2) (replaced with Ichigo)
Craterus
07-20-2008, 19:29
vote: Sigurd
Firstly, the unclear detective result, seems a bit risky to leave him alive if GH won't be back to give the follow up result.
Secondly, I thought Beefy was innocent. I still can't really see the case against him but Sigurd put on the lynch vote (despite thinking he may be innocent? Why not Cronos, Sigurd? He's seemed much more suspicious for the whole game.)
Thirdly, he was sending PM's earlier in the game (to Andres, I think). I'm not sure I like this, I don't think I've ever felt the need to send private messages except when mafia in Capo. Could be completely innocent things but I don't see why it couldn't be posted in the main thread if everybody involved is innocent.
Quintus.JC
07-20-2008, 19:56
So only 1 kill this night, seems to be the serial killer.
Cronos Impera
07-20-2008, 20:03
I guess the serial killer is dead.This is the first night only one player bites the dust so Beefy's death either destroyed the mafia or eradicated the serial killer.
seireikhaan
07-20-2008, 20:07
Do we know how many puritans there are at the moment? Sigurd sent me a PM saying cronos must survive so they could both be mafia, or both be prostitutes...
But I doubt Sigurd would expose himself like that so I'm gonna take his advice and
vote:khaan
ATTENTION!!!
I am the real detective! I gave my previous results, as well as my role PM to General Hankerchief after I found him to be innocent on night one. I have once again investigated Sigurd Fafnesbane, and I have achieved a guilty result on him. And we can see that clearly, Sigurd did not want Cronos to be lynched, which tells us that Cronos must be guilty as well.
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane
Tally:
Sigurd Fafnesbane- 2(Khaan, Craterus)
Cronos Impera
07-20-2008, 20:13
That is a trick Makaikhaan.
Usually a mafioso claims to be the detective so he diverts attention from the party he tries to protect and direct the mob into lynching the townies.
That is Sasaki's tactic...it's a masquarade (khaan hasn't revealed his PM)
So.
Vote: Khaan
For pretending to be GH. This is an excellent move for him.
Tally:
Sigurd Fafnesbane- 2(Khaan, Craterus)
makaikhaan - 1 (Cronos Impera)
seireikhaan
07-20-2008, 20:59
That is a trick Makaikhaan.
Usually a mafioso claims to be the detective so he diverts attention from the party he tries to protect and direct the mob into lynching the townies.
That is Sasaki's tactic...it's a masquarade (khaan hasn't revealed his PM)
So.
Vote: Khaan
For pretending to be GH. This is an excellent move for him.
Tally:
Sigurd Fafnesbane- 2(Khaan, Craterus)
makaikhaan - 1 (Cronos Impera)
Ha. Nice try, but this just confirms your guilt. Why wouldn't I have revealed the role PM? No offense, but duh! Its already been revealed by GH, for everyone to see. It would be the epitome of redundancy to do it again, and if I had, Sigurd would certainly have accused me of being a fake anyways, of copying the PM from the thread. And if you had read GH's post, you would have noticed that he in fact challenged the mafia(aka you and Sigurd) to kill him, as it would be a wasted target. He, unlike Sigurd, was not bluffing.
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