Local historic names of settlements and regions

[FactionHeir]

Hail ye scholars,

I come with a request today.

I am currently working on settlement and region names to give to my mapper with the aim of obtaining the most historic and linguistically correct settlement and region names.

This means that settlement names (not always region names) must be in the language of the tribe/nation that held them at any point during the 1050-1450 era with preference given to older variants. While these have certainly changed hands over time, I am still most interested in what it was called in the language that was used then.

The list of what I got at the moment is far from perfect and I was hoping that with so many historians from so many different countries, maybe it can be drastically improved ~:)

Coordinates are just from the map I got them on at the moment, nothing to be really distracted by.

Iberian peninsula:

Lisbon
Alentejo
95 157

Faro
Algarve
96 142

Coimbra
Centro
103 170

Badajoz
Badajoz Region
115 159

Cordoba
Nortern Al-Andalus
123 143

Toledo
Southern Castile
136 161

Granada
Southern Al-Andalus
134 131

Cartagena
Murcia
155 136

Valencia
Valencia Region
160 149

Zaragoza
Aragón
161 170

Pamplona
Navarre
156 180

Burgos
Northern Castile
143 184

Leon
Leon Region
129 186

Santiago de Compostela
Galicia
110 188

Barcelona
Catalonia
183 165


Northern Africa:

Tanja
Northern Morocco
108 121

Oran
Oran Region
149 114

Marrakech
Southern Morocco
95 96

Arguin
Mauretania
54 36

Timbuktu
Mali
118 21

Algiers
Algeria
179 118

Tunis
Tunisia
236 113

Ghadames
Fezzan
237 52

Tarabulus
Cyrenica
260 72

Benghazi
Lybia
313 62

Siwa
Siwa Region
377 38

Asswan
Asswan Region
417 34


Egypt, Byzantium and the Middle East

Alexandria
Alexandria Region
411 74

Damietta
Damietta Region
406 58

Cairo
Egypt
406 58

Medina
Hedjaz
469 25

Akaba
Nedjed
444 53

Gaza
Sinai
430 79

Bostra
Jordan
459 83

Jerusalem
Palestine
440 91

Acre
Acre Region
434 102

Damascus
Damascus Region
448 102

Antioch
Antioch Region
434 131

Aleppo
Aleppo Region
444 130

Tripoli
Tripoli Region
434 116

Edessa
Edessa Region
458 143

Homs
Syria Region
470 127

Mosul
Mesopotamia
486 141

Baghdad
El Jesireh
503 126

Malazgirt
Malazgirt Region
467 173

Yerevan
Armenia
481 180

Tbilisi
Georgia
481 195

Kutaisi
Mingrelia
454 200

Trebizond
Trebizond Region
446 186

Sinope
Paphlagonia
407 180

Caesarea
Rum
424 152

Adana
Lesser Armenia
425 136

Iconium
Anatolia
401 136

Laodicea
Pamphylia
370 125

Smyrna
Phrygia
361 130

Nicaea
Bythinia
374 158

Constantinople
Constantinople Region
369 165

Adrianople
Thrace
346 167

Thessaloniki
Thessalonike
328 152

Durazzo
Albania
303 155

Lepanto
Epirus
319 130

Corinth
Morea
331 127

Athens
Naxos
339 129


Eastern Mediterranean

Nicosia
Isle of Cyprus
417 117

Rhodes
Isle of Rhodes
371 117

Iraklion
Isle of Crete
349 102


Europe

Toulouse
Toulouse Region
182 185

Marseille
Provence
208 177

Lyon
Southern Burgundy
205 201

Clermont
Auvergne
194 207

Limoges
La Marche
183 207

Poitiers
Poitou
174 212

Bordeaux
Aquitaine
168 203

Brest
West Bretagne
150 238

Rennes
East Bretagne
162 231

Rouen
Normandy
180 241

Angers
Anjou
176 225

Paris
Ile-de-France
195 234

Reims
Champagne
206 238

Dijon
Northern Burgundy
209 218

Calais
Artois
193 251

Bruges
Flanders
199 256

Antwerp
Brabant
207 257

Turin
Turin Region
224 195

Genoa
Southern Lombardy
230 185

Milan
Northern Lombardy
236 198

Bologna
Bologna Region
247 187

Venice
Venezia
253 193

Cosenza
Calabria
286 136

Brindisii
Apulia
289 149

Naples
Campania
271 146

Roma
Papal States
255 161

Ancona
Spoleto
262 172

Pisa
Pisa Region
242 170

Florence
Tuscany
245 178

Arhus
Denmark
244 296

Kobenhavn
Skania
256 288

Warberg
Halland
259 302

Kalmar
Östergötland
280 303

Visby
Gotland
290 308

Uppsala
Svealand
289 327

Skara
Västergötland
257 315

Oslo
Norway
246 333

Bern
Helvetia
224 213

Innsbruck
Tyrol
247 214

Hohenstaufen
Swabia
228 225

Salzburg
Southern Bavaria
262 221

Nürnberg
Northern Bavaria
254 235

Metz
Lorraine
217 234

Mainz
Franconia
241 249

Cologne
Cologne Region
224 251

Utrecht
Utrecht Region
220 267

Bremen
Friesland
236 265

Hamburg
Friesland
236 265

Magdeburg
Saxony
244 275

Stettin
Pomerania
268 277

Dresden
Lusatia
271 253

Breslau
Silesia
283 256

Thorun
Prussia
292 269

Praha
Bohemia
273 242

Olmütz
Moravia
288 236

Wien
Austria
282 222

Graz
Styria
277 206

Zagreb
Slovenia
277 193

Zara
Northern Dalmatia
275 181

Szigetvar
Transdanubia
294 197

Ragusa
Southern Dalmatia
290 169

Skopje
Macedonia
309 167

Beligrad
Serbia
311 189

Sofia
Bulgaria
336 177

Campulung
Wallachia
348 194

Temesvár
Banat
317 220

Bran
Transylvania
339 203

Kronstadt
Burzenland
320 224

Budapest
Hungary
297 218

Kraków
Malopolska
203 243


Far Eastern Europe and Russia

Königsberg
Ermland
301 287

Riga
Livonia
314 311

Revel
Estonia
321 322

Vilnius
Lithuania
327 283

Pskov
Pskov Region
335 307

Turku
Finland
316 330

Novgorod
Novgorod Region
350 319

Tver
Tver Region
383 308

Smolensk
Smolensk Region
366 289

Tchernigov
Severia
387 277

Kiev
Kiev Region
376 249

Kamieniec-Podolski
Ponizia
351 239

Pinesk
Belarus
346 268

Halych
Volhynia
333 250

Iasi
Moldavia
355 224

Akerman
Yedisan
376 225

Chersonesos
Crimea
393 206

Phanagoria
Kerch
420 214

Tana
Tana Region
418 235

Majar
Cumania
475 215

Sarkel
Khazar
446 240

Ryazan
Ryazan Region
406 302

Moskva
Muscovy
406 302

Kazan
Kazan Region
473 295

Bulghar
Volga-Bulgaria
486 291

Ukak
Ukak Region
463 264


Central Mediterranean

Ajaccio
Corsica
226 165

Cagliari
Sardinia
229 136

Palermo
West Sicily
260 126

Messina
East Sicily
275 122

Valetta
Malta
266 102

Palma
Mallorca
181 147


Greater Britain

Inverness
Highlands
172 323

Dumbarton
Strathclyde
165 312

Edinburgh
Lowlands
174 313

Berwick
Northumbria
182 305

Carlisle
Cumbria
173 297

York
Yorkshire
183 292

Chester
Cheshire
173 286

Caernarvon
Gwynedd
162 280

Hereford
Welsh March
174 273

Nottingham
Nottinghamshire
188 276

Cardiff
Deheubarth
166 266

Penzance
Cornwall
156 259

Dorchester
Dorset
172 257

London
Essex
189 261

Cork
Munster
138 280

Dublin
Leinster
156 285

Tara
Mide
150 293

Galway
Connacht
138 297

Carrickfergus
Ulster
154 302


Thanks for any help you can offer!
Oh, and while its great to get them in the (old) local language, I do intend on keeping the special characters within reason.
If its just accents, I do want those - I actually missed out a few that I got on the actual map since I had to make this master list quickly.

[Vorian]

Changes in bold


Egypt,Byzantium, Middle East

Alexandria
Alexandria Region
411 74

Damietta
Damietta Region
406 58

Cairo Al-Qāhirah
Egypt
406 58

Medina
Hedjaz
469 25

Akaba
Nedjed
444 53

Gaza
Sinai
430 79

Bostra
Jordan
459 83

Jerusalem
Palestine
440 91

Acre
Acre Region
434 102

Damascus
Damascus Region
448 102

Antioch Antiocheia
Antioch Region
434 131

Aleppo
Aleppo Region
444 130

Tripoli
Tripoli Region
434 116

Edessa
Edessa Region
458 143

Homs
Syria Region
470 127

Mosul
Mesopotamia
486 141

Baghdad
El Jesireh
503 126

Malazgirt Manzikert
Malazgirt Region
467 173

Yerevan
Armenia
481 180

Tbilisi
Georgia
481 195

Kutaisi
Mingrelia
454 200

Trebizond Trapezounta
Trebizond Region
446 186

Sinope
Paphlagonia
407 180

Caesarea
Rum
424 152

Adana
Lesser Armenia
425 136

Iconium Ikonio
Anatolia
401 136

Laodicea
Pamphylia
370 125

Smyrna Smyrni
Phrygia
361 130

Nicaea
Bythinia
374 158

Constantinople Konstantinoupolis
Constantinople Region
369 165

Adrianople Andianoupolis
Thrace Thraki
346 167

Thessaloniki
Thessalonike
328 152

Durazzo Dyrachion
Albania
303 155

Lepanto Nafpaktos
Epirus Eipiros
319 130

Corinth Korinthos
Morea Moreas
331 127

Athens Athina
Naxos Attiki (Naxos lol wut?)
339 129

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Nürnberg's region should be changed from Northern Bavaria to Franken. Also, if you're intent on having Salzburg in the Bavaria region (though it should be in Salzburg region, probably), then Oberbayern is your best bet for region.

[FactionHeir]

Thanks guys, keep em coming ~:)

[Rhyfelwyr]

You added Dumbarton! Finally my town gets the representation it deserves! I wondered if I was ever going to see it in a mod. +rep if there was such a feature.:2thumbsup:

As for its naming, you could be safe with Dunbretane. Or you could go for the Gaelic Dùn Breatainn since it was underder the Canmore's in 1080. Or even the Brythonic Alcluyyd (sp?).

[FactionHeir]

If you can figure out what it was called for the most part during that era, that'd be helpful ~:)

[Rhyfelwyr]

Well that would be Dunbretane if you are using the timeframe of 1080-1530

[FactionHeir]

While the game runs till 1530, I'm mainly interested in 1050-1350 (typo in my OP) ~:)
Figure you could also have a look at the other Scottish names for me?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Metz
Lorraine Lothringen
217 234

Mainz
Franconia
241 249


Changes in bold. Lorraine should probably be in the German spelling, as it wasn't (to the best of my knowledge) under French sovereignty until the 1700s.

Franconia (Franken) is a region in Bavaria, so Mainz should probably be in Rheinland - but I'm not sure on this one.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Inbhir Nis
Highlands
172 323

Dunbretane
Strathclyde
165 312

Edinburgh
Lothian
174 313

I'm not sure what to change the Highlands to. You could use Moray, Atholl, or Alba. While Alba could imply all of Scotland, it is more appropriate for the Gaelic north, so that is your best option IMO. The other options are really names from smaller geographics areas that don't cover the whole region.

[sephirothno12000]

I know the natives used pronounce Königsberg as "Königsbarg" in Preußen. However, even then..."officially" it was still Königsberg

[Knight of the Rose]

I can only really make a bid on two:

Arhus - The oldest form of the towns name is Arosei (ca. 1050) but changes alot as there weren't many people around writing it down. Aars or Arhusa would both do I think.
Denmark - Well, in medieval times there weren't really a "place" called Denmark. I'd say Jutland here.
244 296 - Go figure :2thumbsup:

Kobenhavn - Called Hafn until 1167 where a source mentions "Portus Mercatorum", Købmænds Hafn, later turning into København or Kobenhavn. I think Kopenhagen is fitting for the later period, and no-one but esoteric historians will connect Hafn with Copenhagen
Skania - Depends on the map. Zeeland (the island next to present-day sweden) and the south of present-day sweden would be called Skania. If it's only the Island, I'd rename it to Zeeland, or Sjaelland if you want the native spelling. I do not know when the southern part of sweden became known as Skania (Skåne) as opposed to Zeeland, but I imagine it would be in the last part of the period covered, if at all.
256 288. Yea yea

/KotR

[Innocentius]

Changes in bold.


Kobenhavn
Sjaelland
256 288

(Warberg
Halland
259 302)

Calmar
Småland
280 303

Wisby
Gotland
290 308

Uppsala
Svealand
289 327

Skara
Västra Götaland
257 315

When King Magnus Eriksson bought Skåne in 1332, the land was mentioned as Scania Terrae (Skåneland), and Halland and Blekinge were included in that term. These lands were regarded the eastern half of the Danish kingdom, and no real distinction was made between the three provinces (Warberg didn't become a major town until the late medieval period, by the way). Lund, the seat of the archdiocese, would have been the head locality of Skåne. I think the most accurate way to depict this would be to bunch Halland and Skåne (and Blekinge) together as either Scania Terrae or the more Scandinavian Skåneland.

Kalmar (spelled with C during the middle ages) was, and is, located in Småland. Linköping, the seat of the diocese, was the main locailty in Östergötland (more accurately Östra Götaland). Likewise, Visby was spelled with a W early on. (Västra Götaland is essentially the same as Västergötland, although the former is an older form of the name.)

I take it that the game is supposed the start in about 1050, which makes the inclusion of Copenhagen rather dubious, even more so as Stockholm is not included. Neither of them could be called towns by 1050.

Also, perhaps Sigtuna should replace Uppsala, if the game is to start in 1050. By that year, Sigtuna was the by far largest town in what was to become Sweden, rivalled only by Skara (and Lund in then-Denmark), while Uppsala was little more than a sacrificial shrine to the north. So, if the game is to start in 1050, the map of modern-day Sweden should look something like this (from North to South):


Sigtuna
Svealand

Skara
Västra Götaland

Linköping
Östra Götaland

Wisby
Gotland

Neither of these were much more than villages however, and towns such as Kalmar, Uppsala and Stockholm only appeared during the 12th century.


Kobenhavn - Called Hafn until 1167 where a source mentions "Portus Mercatorum", Købmænds Hafn, later turning into København or Kobenhavn. I think Kopenhagen is fitting for the later period, and no-one but esoteric historians will connect Hafn with Copenhagen
Skania - Depends on the map. Zeeland (the island next to present-day sweden) and the south of present-day sweden would be called Skania. If it's only the Island, I'd rename it to Zeeland, or Sjaelland if you want the native spelling. I do not know when the southern part of sweden became known as Skania (Skåne) as opposed to Zeeland, but I imagine it would be in the last part of the period covered, if at all.
256 288. Yea yea

You're right in what you say about the name of present day Copenhagen, which would be located on Sjaelland, and not in Scania (Lund was the main town in Scania, as well as the seat of an archdiocese, as mentioned above).

Edit:


Turku
Finland
316 330

Perhaps Finland should be renamed Egentliga Finland (Proper Finland), as this was the name given to the coastal lands of Finland, controlled by the kings of Sweden, wehereas Finland was a much more vague term, refering to a land controlled and contested by Swedes, Russians, Finns and Sapmi people. As above, Turku didn't exist by 1050 though.

Beyond Proper Finland lay Tavastland, with Tavastehus as its main locality (again, only later during the middle ages), and further east; Karelen and Ladoga Karelen, where Viborg/Viipuri, Kexholm and Nöteborg all played major parts in the Swedish-Russian conflicts in the area.

[Tribesman]

The fort of the Fergals on the stony river under the domain of the Flahertys of the plain .

[FactionHeir]

Thanks guys for the major update of the HRE and Scandinavian names :2thumbsup:

The game starts 1080, but I figure going all the way back to 1050 was justified as names that came into being later (say 1070) may not have been that oft used if that makes any sense - people would still use the older name at times possibly. That of course I cannot back up historically but that is what I was thinking when I said it ~:)

That said, settlement sizes go all the way down to Village (400 inhabitants), so that's how some of the settlements will be starting out as. But of course if you have a better suggestion for places that were of greater importance in the vincinity of a lesser settlement (historically speaking during that period as opposed to now), I would be very willing to include that instead.

So I am open to suggestions about settlements to take Warberg and Uppsala's places for instance if you will provide them.

[Innocentius]

Thanks guys for the major update of the HRE and Scandinavian names :2thumbsup:

The game starts 1080, but I figure going all the way back to 1050 was justified as names that came into being later (say 1070) may not have been that oft used if that makes any sense - people would still use the older name at times possibly. That of course I cannot back up historically but that is what I was thinking when I said it ~:)

That said, settlement sizes go all the way down to Village (400 inhabitants), so that's how some of the settlements will be starting out as. But of course if you have a better suggestion for places that were of greater importance in the vincinity of a lesser settlement (historically speaking during that period as opposed to now), I would be very willing to include that instead.

So I am open to suggestions about settlements to take Warberg and Uppsala's places for instance if you will provide them.

Ah! I somehow managed to forget about Lödöse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%B6d%C3%B6se), on Göta älv in Bohuslän (western Sweden/Swedish west coast), a must to include as this was probably the most important town in Skagerak at the time. Along Skara, it was the major locality in Västra Götaland at the time and up until the 14th century.

I'd actually cut Halland as a province since it was included in Skåneland and of no particular importance when compared to the more fertile lands in Skåne, and make Lund the common provincial town for Halland, Skåne and Blekinge. If you still need a town on the Swedish west coast, use Lödöse (Västra Götaland could be divided into two separate provinces, one more coastal and another, much larger, comprising the inlands). To replace Uppsala, I'd suggest Sigtuna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigtuna), although I would add Stockholm for both gameplay as well as historical purposes (several other towns included in the game were certainly villages or even non-existant by 1080). Of course, that might make that part of the map too cramped, and nothing gives Sigtuna couldn't have grown to have become much larger than it did.

[r-marci]

Hail ye scholars,

Pécs
Transdanubia
294 197

Gyulafehérvár
Transylvania
339 203

Buda
Hungary
297 218



Pécs was more important than Szigetvár. Pécs was a see from 1009, but Szigetvár became town only in the 15th century.

Gyulafehérvár was the seat of Transylvania (Hungarian: Erdőelve) in the Middle Ages. Bran (Hungarian: Törcsvár; German: Türzdorf) was built by the Teuton Order between 1211 and 1215. In the beginning, there was just a castle to defend the southern border of Transylvania.

Budapest didn't exist in the Middle Ages. It was established with joining of Pest, Buda and Óbuda in 1873. In big part of the Middle Ages, Hungary hasn't constant capital, but Buda became durably that in the 14th century.

[Fragony]

If you have a more specific request I am glad to help out, got them mapped till the french revolution.