The Parthian Empire

[Reno Melitensis]

In my Romani campaign the Pahlava are doing very well. With a little help from the gods, in the form of FD, they survived the onslaught of the Selucids and so avoided extinction early in the game. i even borrowed money from the Saba and gave them to the Pahlava. The Saba are being reworded for their help, because the hated Poeni:thumbsdown: threated me with attack, and in 214 BC they besieged Messana. So the provinces in North Africa are being passed over to them, I am going to keep Adrumentum, Ippone and Siga, and confine the Carthaginians to Attika and Carthage itself.

But then the Pahlava took the initiative:2thumbsup: and begin to conquer the territories of the Selucids, which too where given a helping hand against the Ptolemies:egypt:. But the Selucids are anable to counter attack as their eternal Syrian wars go on and on. So slowly but unstoppable the Pahalva are grinding the empire bit by bit. I plan to change their name if they do create a huge empire and conquer both Babylon and Selucia.

So the reason for this long post is that I want to ask what the Pahlava called their empire or with what title can I change Pahlava in my Campaign ?. Thanks

Cheers.

[Hax]

I guess you could call them the "Parthaya or Parthava". TPC might know more about this, though.

[The Persian Cataphract]

Once you have established the new Persianate dynasty, you may call them Arshkânîg/Arshkanig (Which means "Arsacids").

[Hax]

Apart from that, I do believe Parthava only refers to the Satrapy of Parthia. Arshkânîg would be better.

[The Persian Cataphract]

The faction name is beyond my capacity to change; It should in fact be "Âpârnîg" or "Pârnîg". Back in 272 BCE there was no such thing as an Arsacid dynasty; It had to first be established by the one Arsaces who toppled Andragoras/Pherecles and dubbed himself Arsaces I. However it was the Arsacids who gave rise to the legend of the "champion horse-men", or "Pahlavân"; Their succession in Parthia proper, or Parthava, caused a transition in the nomenclature of the area. Parthava became Pahlava. It is the idea that counts.

Yeah, migraine-inducing when you give a serious moment of thought. Today's terminology is fucked up thanks to a bunch of senile folks who want everything to be simplified for them (When it usually needs a correct abstraction).

[Reno Melitensis]

Thanks for your reply guys and thanks always goes to TPC for his detailed history of ancient Iran. In fact as I have a number of spies in the area, I noticed that many FM of the Pahlava have the name Arshkânîg/Arshkanig, so that will be the faction name once they establish an empire.

Cheers.

[Vorian]

Pahlava is one of my favourite factions...when I re-install EB (cause my computer is in its deathbed now) I will definetely play them again.

Too bad we have so little info on them, I have been looking the net for weeks in search of some good site or pdf