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Merlox
07-16-2008, 21:27
Broken Crescent 3 HotSeat. Now Looking for Players

CURRENT PLAYERS INTERESTED : 16 possibly filled

I just finished the Final Save, Every faction is very well developed. It only took me 26 hours of testing and redoing...... *Head bangs on wall*
I am having my final save prelooked at by 3 different people to make sure that this is fair.
The Game year is 1184.
No Plauges are detected.
Each faction as a strong point somewhere. Some how.
Looking for Players now.
48 Hour Normal Timelimit for players.
I am looking for a full game. AI will ruin the game.

I see more of people's friends, that's a good thing, but the other thing I don't want to see is any actions based in the game due to OOC between people. Remember. The Game is Diplomacy IC, not OOC. :O

Well guys, I've been reading on the two Broken Crescent hotseat games, They are both very interesting, I had an idea though to make this game more... Player to player interactive? I have a possible game of 16 players, thing is though, No rebels, Each of the 16 nations will have 10-12 settlements. Each having ballanced of each. With that saying, Each nation will have ALOT of possible allies or enemies at there borders. Each nation has a Very developed Castle and a Very Developed City, and then there will be numerous of Large towns and Castles, and there will be a few odd ball wooden castles / small towns.
Each of the nations will have full un fogged cover by Watch towers by borders and by very long roads. The 1st spy will be in an inner city, And your armies will be deployed around the borders. For this to to work ofcourse we may need a 3 turn truce, For diplomacy talks, such, No one has trade rights even! This map will be all about Alliences and such, Being that theres no rebels, Pretty much You, and 15 other people. :o

If you guys think that this could possibly work, please post! Thanks!
All Nations are open. XD

Downlaod Info:
Broken Crescent Mod : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140857
Broken Crescent Quick Fix update : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=142288
Broken Crescent Fraction Info : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97742

FIRST PUBLIC TEST SAVE. Tell me how you think of it!
http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3t2.zip


This is what the map would possibly look like, If you have ANY ideas or to add, Please let me know!

The spoil has the Map of all the settlements and Who owns them, Also at the bottom right it will tell you what color the nation is, and how many settlements each has!
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/7/16/f_PossibleNewm_baae2c7.png

Reserved if the game takes place. Just listing who has an interest of what. All Names that are NOT in ( ) are FINAL unless if the player comes to talk to me. other wise, There is a few problems with who wants what, Some people didn't give me 2nd choices, or 1st and 2nd choices were taken...
1st = there first pick, they really want it
2nd = there 2nd pick, if too many want there 1st, they may be asked to go to 2nd
Either = They don't care as long as they play as one of these factions.

Turkish Sultanate............... luigithepizzaman
Byzantine Empire (ERE)........ askthepizzaguy
Georgia............................. Warmaster Horus
Principality of Antioch......... Elite Ferret
Kingdom of Jerusalem.......... Chaotix27
Ayyubid Sultanate.............. phonicsmonkey
Abassid Caliphate............... Ibn-Khaldun
Great Seljuks..................... turcoman
Khwarezmid Shahdom.......... Ulfang
Ghaznavids........................ barcamartin
Ghorid Emirate................... Empedocles
Hindu Rajputs..................... Tristan de Castelreng
Kypchaks.......................... Aries777777
Makuria............................. Ultra_Magnus
Imamate of Oman............... Merlox
Malikate of Sindh................ Ramsus II


Basic hotseat and this game's rules

- I am the mod of this game. If you think any one is abusing any of the lower rules, or you will be absent, Please contact me. I will deal with it. Thanks.

- No attacking on the 1st turn. Let every one get ready and all of that good stuffs.

- All passwords should be reported to me in PM or privately. Incase if you are absent I will take your turn, how ever, If you have an Alliance with another person, and treat it as a serious alliance, then Your Alliance member should play the game for you instead of me. Please tell me if you do this, and also, Please tell every one in advance if you are going to go on a vacation or something. So we arn't waiting for 2 days going. "Where did Player XYZ go...?" Just it would be awesome ofcourse. ^^

- If you miss your turn for three times, And not report before hand or during of how busy you are or something. I will hold a vote on a removal of you and another person may jump in for you. The game must keep on moving.

- I noticed that some Imams will be able to call Jihads. I am sorry to say but I will be banning Imam Jihads. Just because it is unfair. Sorry.
I will allow you to call a Jihad on the IC diplomacy thread, but just not in the game. :D

- Also, new rule, You CAN NOT make small cities and under, or castles and under your capital, They have to be either Fortress or up, Or Large city or up. Thanks.

- All battles, including those between player-controlled factions, may be fought by the attacking player (against the VH AI), or auto-resolved.

- Please send a private message to the next player in line to alert them that it is their turn.

- Players are requested to compete in good faith and with a sporting spirit at all times.

- No exploits. The following exploits are banned. This list is not exhaustive, and in considering a course of action the player concerned should have regard for the rule regarding sportsmanlike conduct. If there is any doubt about exactly what actions these exploits involve, or whether a given action which is not specifically banned would constitute an exploit, please seek guidance from the GM or other players before completing the relevant turn.

- Re-loading of save game to play the turn again in a different way, or to create a different outcome.
- Merchant fort exploit. [B]Note: If some one reports you of having a merchant fort, and It is confirmed, I will kill all of your merchants. or make them so bad, that there - 8 financial. Or worst, I'll just - double the income that they make, until you take them out. ^^
- Surround and destroy exploit (relating to agents, also to armies or ships engaged in battle. An escape route of at least one tile must be left.)
- Deliberately setting up tribute deals which will result in a faction going more than 20k in debt.
- Deliberately exchanging territories for the sole purpose of gaining a free garrison.


In Game Tips.

Ok. First of all, You will most likely be surrounded. So, what best way to make sure that all fronts won't attack you!?, Diplomacy! Yes, It's a magical deal where you talk to different Nations, and make Deals, Pacts, Treaties, Declare War, Declare Cease Fire, Declare Alliences, Money Aid, What ever you can think of, Making friends in this game is KEY to success. If not, People will not like you, and gang up against you. Almost 100% defeat. Here is just a few tips to help you in this game.

- COUNTER SPIES - Yes, Counter Spies, What is Counter Spies basicly? I'll tell you, It is when you place a spy within your own city, castle, or fort, and leave them there. It lowers down other enemy spies chances by a VERY GREAT DEAL. Every faction could steam roll a faction in this if they do not have a counter spy. So... Wanna know how to take a settlement fast...? Well, it's.

- MOBILE SIEGE WEAPONS - Yes, In this mod, I have given every one or most of every one the chance to build siege weapons, Which can bring down gates and walls, Very fast. Though, It is extremely slow. And if you don't protect it well, Your enemy will find it and kill it. So Protect them!, It's one of the most important units in your invasion armies!

- TeamWork - Yes, Teamwork.Both of you are scared of a nation, or just wanting to defend eachother, or perhaps tag up and both beat the crap outa one nation? Well. Then you need alliances. These are very good things. As long as you can trust who ever is Allied with you... to not stab ou in the back when you do your half.

- Keeping your Rep up! - Yes, This might be very important for you. If you go around raiding and sacking cities for no reason, a large gang may just come about and beat the living snot out of you, and your allies will sit there and won't do any thing. So please. If you are going to be a sneaky fox, Be sneaky about it. Or there will be a hundred hounds on you.

- Keeping Track of the Game! - Ofcourse, This might be the single most important rule out of the most, If you want to play the game, Keep track with it! if not... Why you playing!?

Merlox
07-16-2008, 21:42
And WOW, I typoed Broken /Crescent/ I am a failure.

Ferret
07-16-2008, 21:43
Wouldn't it be hard to balance the buildings and garrisons right? Some of the rebel places are guarded with massive armies and others have nothing other than walls. This would require extensive testing to get right...

Merlox
07-16-2008, 21:47
Not really, The rebels were put away, Right now I have the game already made, just making a few minor adjustments now, The game will be about 3-4 turns ahead, This also is good because the spawned stacks have been delt with. The only rebel towns are Arab desert, Tebet, and the place really up north, which is impossible to get to! Also, The turn will make all of the unrest go away for all of the settlements pretty much, Making them pretty stable.

Ferret
07-16-2008, 22:36
How did you decide how much garrisons to give each of the settlements? And have you changed any of the buidlings? I love this idea but I fear it may be unbalanced. (and fear I have little enough free time as it is :laugh4:)

Merlox
07-16-2008, 22:56
Well, At the moment, I have a save but still working on it, each nation has 2-3 stacks of armies that are outside, in forts. the cities have only 1-2 units each inside, Each of the stacks are set near the borders, but still, trying to get it at the moment so each faction so there around 15ish k of making money, and 15ish k getting taken out for armies, The income will increase once the player has started to obtain Trade with other nations. Right now like I said, There is one highly upped city and castle, Serves as the control center, All the rest are mostly lower towns with the basic stuffs needed in them, but still they can be upgraded much more, (such as EVERY city has a road, almost every city has a way to recruit a unit, such.) This is a HUGE task to balance out, and you have every right to fear that it may be unballanced, I'm basicly ripping out the rebels and saying who get's what! lol, If you have any ideas or inputs, throw it up and i'll take it in mind ofcourse!, but still, the current save i'm working out, Every one seems in the same area, (Besides the russains, Damn unite the steppes) So, I gotta destroy a few more buildings, build them, see how it is. Make sure the armies are set at the right place. If the game ever does start, There will be a few turn truce, so one can move where ever he wants adjusting to what his diplomacy is, Each Faction will have 3-4 Diplomats right off the start. All at the different borders. If this goes well, This game will be pretty neat!

EDIT: I have decided to make each faction have the income of 20 - 22.5k All will be going to an army upkeep so the player will be gaining very little to no money. This will prolly be the best way for balancing

Ferret
07-16-2008, 23:34
Comforting to hear you have put so much work into this. Count me in, just need to think which faction to play. Would it be alright if I had a look at the save when it is finished, to get to grips with the new positions?

Ramses II CP
07-17-2008, 00:06
The Sindh and Georgia are in deep, deep trouble. If I think I have time for this, I'll take one of them. :laugh4:

:egypt:

phonicsmonkey
07-17-2008, 00:19
I really like this idea!

Merlox, have a balloon for your innovative thinking: :balloon2:

I think I have time to join this one, so I'll take the Ayyubids if that's ok...:2thumbsup:

Merlox
07-17-2008, 00:25
Haha, Ramsus, You may think they are in trouble by how many borders they touch, but then think of it this way, How many possible allies that will use your land as military access to another land and also, If the Great Turks attack the sindh's... you'd think they wouldn't last long by that very long stretch of land! :O also, really nice trade! XD and on't worry, Sindh's armed up to the teeth with there stuffs, they only have 2 castles, but each of the castles are VERY VERY upgraded, it is one of the factions where i bend the rules alittle, due to the fact that they have so much against them, but don't worry, they still will make the same! Sindh is not for the scared! Georgia has some goodies, Like considering that there capital is only castle type in the whole middle / west. making there castle better. :o

EDIT: Also! I have now included that every nation that can build it, will get 1 city that can build all type of moble siege weapons!
Also, Every faction that can, can now produce a single priest! / Imams!

Chaotix
07-17-2008, 02:19
Alright, I see now what you were getting at in that email, Merlox. I'm in! I think I'll try Makuria, but I've got 1 request: Change San'a, Ta'iz, and Aden to Makurian control and give Callula and Suqutra to Oman- It makes Makuria more contiguous without damaging Oman.

Edit: Also, Damascus should go to KoJ to balance things out over there. :grin:

Merlox
07-17-2008, 02:32
That would be a good idea, but considering that the areas you listed for the kingdom of M has non of your religion on it what so ever, and so much of Imam's, (basicly 0% of Mar, and a 71% of imams.) It would be pretty bad, And for the damascus, It's an islam holy site basicly, also, back to the religion.

My picking areas would have been ALOT easier if i would have considered forgotten religions.

phonicsmonkey
07-17-2008, 03:14
also, (and I'm not suggesting you should try too hard for historical accuracy, but it's worth mentioning anyway) at the time the game starts Damascus was ruled by Nur-a-Din, not by the KoJ

I understand in BC1.5 they will be introducing a Zengid Sultanate as a separate faction to reflect this..

Merlox
07-17-2008, 03:52
Ok, The test subject is made, but for some reason the uploader is being dumb, If you want to see the map for BC3 Test, you may, All factions do not have passwords and it just started turn w/e at year 1778.

Email me at Merlox@live.com if you want a copy of my test save!

Btw, i forgot to turn dev-cheats off in my cfg due to i had to re-install my BC... Any way I can change it back to it being back to no dev coun?

barcamartin
07-17-2008, 09:02
I'll make time for this! Count me in as the Ghaznavids, if this starts.

Ferret
07-17-2008, 10:05
I'd like to be the Kingdom of Armenia.

Merlox
07-17-2008, 17:34
I'm glad people are taking an interest of this game, And for all who think this will be like the old games, you are CLEARLY wrong, for example, Look at the kingdom of Armenia, Kingdom of Sindh, There nations do not look good, but they have enough upgraded cities to be very feared, And remember guys, this is all about diplomacy, If some one wants to be rambo, i'm sure the 5 nations at there borders will just blitz all that one and eat it up, But if this works right, After the truce, a single war could spark World War. XD, and also don't forget every nation has Massive unit productions now. Any ways, I tried to base this off of old medieval war, The objective for any country is to capture the capital, and the country wins, (Ofcourse, you could be as tricky as the russains as with napoleon, and when there town is siege, and garenteed loss, Destroy all buildings inside to hinder there advancement!)

Any ways, I just wanna put this out that this game is Diplomacy!!! :O , any ways, Elite Ferret, Good choice on picking Armenia, They are not weak ^^ trusssst me

Oh yes, I was going to do another buff, but i wanted all of your guys vote, I was thinking of putting 1 spy in every city, and 2 in the capital, for Counter spying, I realized that if a guy has a whorde of really good spies, they could litterly, Kill a nation withen 1 turn with out them even reacting! Please put your input!

Merlox
07-18-2008, 00:02
EF and Bar, you got your nations, if you wanna change to another, as long as no one else wanted them it's fine!

phonicsmonkey
07-18-2008, 00:37
what about me? :clown:

Merlox
07-18-2008, 00:49
Don't worry phonix, I'm just gotta get a list of every one first.

phonicsmonkey
07-18-2008, 01:44
I don't mind changing factions if someone else really wants the Ayyubids.

I'd probably pick The Khwarezm Shah as a second option.

Merlox
07-18-2008, 02:26
Hey guys, First public test is out, Just go on and check it out! has FoW disabled so you can see every thing, and all factions have no pass, so feel free to check them out! http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3t2.zip
Or at the top.

barcamartin
07-18-2008, 08:28
EF and Bar, you got your nations, if you wanna change to another, as long as no one else wanted them it's fine!

Great, I'll check the Ghazni situation out.

I suppose this game will need to have all faction slots filled by human players. AI factions in this kind of game won't be very good.

Ferret
07-18-2008, 10:40
I'm happy with my choice :yes:

Merlox
07-18-2008, 16:30
Update. Adding the ERE a minor city, Moving back alot of troops back from the northern border, like what Ask the pizza said, it kinda forces ERE to attack the russains which wasn't the idea. Playing out a few more turns so Kwazam isn't getting owned by the plague that badly... (Last time i rmeember that plague gets rid of 7k of profit. It kills them very fast.

EDIT: Ok, fixed the Kwas so they arn't getting owned at the start of the game by a plague, fixed up the borders alittle, so it's more of a "Defencive" type than having huge stacks right at the borders. Also. Yes, you are right Barc, We need more players, If you want to spread the word of the new hotseat coming along, that would be great!

Merlox
07-18-2008, 22:52
Well guys, I have finished the final save. It is looking VERY promising. Now I am looking for Players!

barcamartin
07-18-2008, 23:41
I'll try a little over at TWC. :)

Ibn-Khaldun
07-18-2008, 23:54
I haven't played this kind of hotseat games before but I'm interested.

Perhaps Ayyubid Caliphate to me or The Kingdom of Jerusalem.

I'm not sure at the moment which one I'll take... :sweatdrop:

Empedocles
07-19-2008, 00:27
hi guys! If possible I would like to join as the Ghorid Emirate.

My second choice will be the Seljuks
regards

ps: barcamartin knows I'm a dedicated player.

Merlox
07-19-2008, 00:36
You both have been added to the list, Ayyubids sure are liked! XD. But yeah. if you want to PM me or email me at Merlox@live.com , or if you have a windows messenger that would be great, I'll tell you all on how your nation stands amungst the others, your strong points, your weak points ect, keep on telling your friends, and that's awesome, I want dedicated players for this! :O

phonicsmonkey
07-19-2008, 01:55
I think Ibn-Khaldun meant to say the Abbasid Caliphate...is that right Ibn or are you also keen to play as the Ayyubid Sultanate?

Merlox
07-19-2008, 04:16
Well, We are at 9 people now. We are over the half way mark, but we still need more people! Please do tell your friends!

Merlox
07-19-2008, 06:44
I was thinking, This game is obviously going to be more Player to Player than the previous BCs. So.. Would it be smart if we had an IC diplomacy thread as well? or no? just wondering

Ibn-Khaldun
07-19-2008, 06:51
I think Ibn-Khaldun meant to say the Abbasid Caliphate...is that right Ibn or are you also keen to play as the Ayyubid Sultanate?

Yeah, I meant Abbasid... :beam:

Merlox
07-19-2008, 06:57
Ok, I made the change, Please do tell you're friends, I Slaved over this whole project just for you guys would check this out! :D

barcamartin
07-19-2008, 09:03
hi guys! If possible I would like to join as the Ghorid Emirate.

My second choice will be the Seljuks
regards

ps: barcamartin knows I'm a dedicated player.

Glad to have you, Emp ! Now I know there's someone to sub me when I'm away. :clown:

turcoman
07-19-2008, 10:22
I wanna join as turks.I am aslanamca in twcenter.Thanks barcamartin as he made me familiar about this hotseat.:)
Also nice to see you here empedocles.I hope there wont be second anatolian war:)))

I have questions
1-Will we autoresolve battles?
2-Shall i modify bc.cfg file?
3-When will we start?

turcoman
07-19-2008, 10:25
sorry,i sent this message accidentally.And as i dont know how to edit the message,i couldnt make any change.

turcoman
07-19-2008, 10:37
sorry for triple message but there was a problem with my internet explorer.

Ignore this message

sorry,i sent this message accidentally.And as i dont know how to edit the message,i couldnt make any change.

Merlox
07-19-2008, 13:42
Nice tripple post.... ::Gives him the tripple kill award from halo.:: XD. but yeah. No, YOu have the choice of playing out these battles, it's only fair, or jerusalem would own every battle with there super elite army. It only works on skill, also. We will start when we have 16 people, Last time i remembered, No, you don't.. I maybe wrong, if so. just copy paste taht stuffs in admin, If I am wrong and the save deosn't carry it out, Copy paste

[hotseat]
autoresolve_battles = 0
disable_console = 1
disable_papal_elections = 0
save_prefs = 0
update_ai_camera = 0
validate_diplomacy = 1

into your cfg, should work.

Thanks for taking an interest, I'll put you down as the turkish sultans.

Merlox
07-19-2008, 14:25
Wouldn't it be hard to balance the buildings and garrisons right? Some of the rebel places are guarded with massive armies and others have nothing other than walls. This would require extensive testing to get right...


Not really, The rebels were put away, Right now I have the game already made, just making a few minor adjustments now, The game will be about 3-4 turns ahead, This also is good because the spawned stacks have been delt with. The only rebel towns are Arab desert, Tebet, and the place really up north, which is impossible to get to! Also, The turn will make all of the unrest go away for all of the settlements pretty much, Making them pretty stable.

Haha... Minor adjustments. I was so cocky when i thought every thing could be done in 4 turns ahead... But now I am at 26 hours into this, and 20 turns ahead... And Hopefully.. HOPEFULLY I am finished... Just waiting on the 3 people to say it's all balamnced.. x_X

Chaotix
07-19-2008, 15:34
Merlox, one thing you forgot to add for the hotseat is this:

[multiplayer]
playable = true
hotseat_turns = true
hotseat_scroll = false
hotseat_autoresolve_battles = 1
hotseat_disable_console = 1
hotseat_disable_papal_elections = 0
hotseat_save_prefs = 0
hotseat_update_ai_camera = 0
hotseat_validate_diplomacy = 1

Pretty much anything below the "playable = true" is your preference, but that line must be present in order to play a hotseat game.

And we should definitely have a diplomacy/council thread. Considering this game is probably going to be all about diplomacy, we shouldn't have to be limited by the........ limited in-game diplomacy.

Moobke
07-19-2008, 19:43
Hi, it's Moobke from TWCenter. I would like to join this campaign.

My first choice would be the Kindom of Makuria, my second choice would be the Hindu Rajputs.

With kind regards,
Moobke

Merlox
07-19-2008, 19:49
Thanks Chaox, and yeah. Remember, if you wanna change your factions, now is the time before it fills up. Last chance! :D
And you are added in Moobke

Ibn-Khaldun
07-19-2008, 20:13
I have decided that I will play only as the Abbasids...

They make a nice faction to play ...

Also.. Jerusalem would be too difficult because every Muslim faction will probably like to wipe them out :beam:

So .. I will stick to Abbasids :yes:

Merlox
07-19-2008, 20:28
Ok, making your first pick as abbubids, and yeah, Make sure you keep updated with the top post. And thanks for keeping on top of the progress.

Merlox
07-19-2008, 22:57
The IC diplomacy thread sounds good. But are we going to have it such as the BC 2 and 1, where all gathers up into one place like nato? or just have it just a thread of all the different diplomats talking to eachother in very different locations? And if we are going to have it like a Nato, We have to vote on either of these 2 spots. Jerusalem, or Baghdad., For me, I vote for Baghdad, prolly would be the best place to do a nato.. considering its basicly slap center in the world. Also, it's just Bahgdad XD

Ferret
07-19-2008, 23:16
I don't think it really matters but if I had to choose I'd say Baghdad.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-19-2008, 23:34
What EF said ..
It doesn't matter .. but I also like Baghdad..
And it's not because I would play Abbasids and have Baghdad as my capital..
Oh no .. it's not that at all:clown:

Merlox
07-20-2008, 00:15
Lol Ibn, well. Theres 11 people interested. I need 5 more... tell your friends!!! T_T

Thermal
07-20-2008, 02:33
i would join but ive never done one of these before and it looks very complicated :dizzy2:

Merlox
07-20-2008, 02:35
Umm well, How long have you played this game first of all? because alot of people, including myself have had this game for years, and just find out about the community

Chaotix
07-20-2008, 03:20
Yeah, I just started my first hotseat duels a few weeks ago, and it's really not all that complicated. If you have Medieval 2, then you can play! Basically, if you want to join this game, download the mod "Broken Crescent". You'll find it along with all the instructions on how to dl it at the forum that it's got under the M2TW mods section. After that, (make sure you get the hotfixes too) just go into the bc.cfg file using notepad and enter the lines in my last post. Now you can play a hotseat on BC!

And speaking of hotseat duels, I'm still waiting on my turns from Merlox and ATPG.... :whip:

Merlox
07-20-2008, 03:25
Oh, But i beat the game already, That turn was the last, My 3 armies from russia came in, sacked your capital, ani, and another city, i killed your faction leader. yeah. good game.

Thermal
07-21-2008, 15:48
I ve got experience at medieval, ive owned all total war games and i already hav most mods includin Broken Crescent, but i read somewhere tht multiplayer campaigns require unpacking your folders etc, im no gd with editin things myself, if this is required then how do i do it?:embarassed:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-21-2008, 15:57
I ve got experience at medieval, ive owned all total war games and i already hav most mods includin Broken Crescent, but i read somewhere tht multiplayer campaigns require unpacking your folders etc, im no gd with editin things myself, if this is required then how do i do it?:embarassed:

You do not have to unpack anything..

You just have to add following lines to your bc.cfg file..

[multiplayer]
playable = true
hotseat_turns = true
hotseat_scroll = false
hotseat_autoresolve_battles = 1
hotseat_disable_console = 1
hotseat_disable_papal_elections = 0
hotseat_save_prefs = 0
hotseat_update_ai_camera = 0
hotseat_validate_diplomacy = 1

And that is all :yes:

_Tristan_
07-21-2008, 15:58
Merlox, please count me in as the Solanki Rajputs... Those elephants are so cool...

But I might be away for most of August... will that be a problem ?

Thermal
07-21-2008, 16:20
ok thanks, 4 info, so do u add this infomation as a replacement 4 where its says hotseat? i dont want to put the infomation in the wrong part:beam:

Thermal
07-21-2008, 16:30
by the way, assuming ive edited the file right and i can take part, out of whats left i'd pick
first choice: hindu ragputs
second choice: Kypchaks
thx

_Tristan_
07-21-2008, 16:31
You do not need to add that info anywhere, Aries...

Only the prson starting the hostseat needs to do add it, Merlox, in our case...

Ibn-Khaldun
07-21-2008, 16:58
You do not need to add that info anywhere, Aries...

Only the prson starting the hostseat needs to do add it, Merlox, in our case...

In this game he indeed doesn't have to add that info anywhere ..

But if he wants to start a hotseat himself then he does.. :yes:

Privateerkev
07-21-2008, 17:01
No one's taken KoJ yet? :dizzy2:

That could either be really good (because I love KoJ in Kingdoms) or really bad (I think everyone is avoiding them because they'll get pawned.) :laugh4:

I don't have BC though and I am hesitant at joining something else since I'm pretty involved in LotR at the moment.

If everyone has gotten the factions they wanted and KoJ is still open, I'll think about it.

I promise that if KoJ goes down early, I'll do my best to go out with a bang. :2thumbsup:

But I am by no means sure if I'm joining so take care of the people who have signed up first. :beam:

And if someone comes in really wanting KoJ, let them take it. Don't hold up starting the game on my account. :bow:

Merlox
07-21-2008, 17:58
Ummm, to be honest, Jerusalem has a very strong grip in this game, and has the power to do ALOT of damage, and no, not every one will bang on jerusalem due to the simple fact is that they will have to remove armies from there border to do that, and that will make them varnable for an attack. You are the smallest country.. that means you can move your armies at will to mobilize the fronts, while like others.. it would take years. So you want in or no? KoJ is as close as european powers as possible, :o
Also, They can be usefull at diplomacy.

And also, you may be involved with alot, but this is a 16 hotseat game, The most work you'll be doing is diplomacy with other real people, and checking up on your turn. >_>

SO JUST JOIN! XD we need a KoJ lover any ways.

Privateerkev
07-21-2008, 18:09
I've been in some hotseats and diplomacy tends to be the most time intensive part. If you want people to not whomp you, you have to build an IC relationship with them. If you don't, you'll find your faction has been divided up amongst your neighbors. :beam:

I'm going to take a little bit to think about it. And to see what direction some things in LotR go. (also I have to see if I can even get BC loaded and working.)

So for now, I'm "interested" but not "committed." :yes:

_Tristan_
07-21-2008, 18:28
And what about me... Seems I got forgotten...

Merlox
07-21-2008, 18:40
Woa! i didn't even know that you signed up! i'm sorry! lol!!! Yeah, i'll put you down as 1st choice and make the tick onto 14 players now. Sorry man!

And ofcourse the gone most of augest would not be a problem, and thank you for telling me about it!, *FINE EXAMPLE* While you are gone you can tell me who you want to play on your account, It may only be Me or an Ally. ok?

turcoman
07-21-2008, 20:06
Hi,my first choice was turkish sultanate.But i saw that seljuks are open.(Am i right)

I want to change my 1st choice as seljuks.Please make my 1st choice as seljuks.

Merlox
07-21-2008, 20:32
Ok, i put you down as 1st choice Seljuks, and 2nd choice Turks

Merlox
07-23-2008, 02:46
2 more people needed... T_T; fiiind people! XD

Moobke
07-23-2008, 10:43
Guys, should the campaign begin in the period of 25 july - 1 august, i'm gonna need subbing ^^ I'm leaving on a holliday during that period.

I kindly thank you

Thermal
07-23-2008, 14:16
i dont mind waitin till the second of august, but tht guy who wanted the ragput said he wont b here all of august, btw if tht person really wants the ragputs i dont mind havin the kypchaks

Warmaster Horus
07-23-2008, 15:18
Hey, any factions left open? I'm interested, and I don't care which faction I play.

Privateerkev
07-23-2008, 16:48
Hey WH!

Long time no see. :beam:

The KoJ is still open. I was thinking of joining and taking them but I will probably bow out due to busy-ness.

If you want them, their yours. :2thumbsup:

(No one else seems to want them and I was the only one interested.)

Merlox
07-23-2008, 17:15
GAME IS STILL NOT FILLED 15 PEOPLE

Hey Chaox, Do you wanna 2nd Georgia again? I think you will enjoy them more now.

Turks start the game. We need a turks player!

Privateerkev
07-23-2008, 17:29
Alright, I'll officially drop to open up a slot.

Sorry but if I'm not going to commit, I shouldn't prevent someone else from playing.

Have fun and I'll watch this from afar. :bow:

Merlox
07-23-2008, 17:46
OH NO YOU DON'T LAND LUBBER, YOU WILL STAY!... You're not blocking any one. :o

Privateerkev
07-23-2008, 17:51
OH NO YOU DON'T LAND LUBBER, YOU WILL STAY!... You're not blocking any one. :o

*sails off into the sunset to go and raid shipping with a letter of marquee*

:titanic:

Chaotix
07-23-2008, 18:54
GAME IS STILL NOT FILLED 15 PEOPLE

Hey Chaox, Do you wanna 2nd Georgia again? I think you will enjoy them more now.

Turks start the game. We need a turks player!


Hell no! The Georgian military is not one that my knowledge of tactics has good enough command over. No HA armies for me when I'm playing against real people! Speaking of which, did you finish me off in our duel yet or am I still alive? I sent you the next turn.

Merlox
07-23-2008, 19:32
Yeah.. but... you could always be the sindh... last i checked they wern't that into HA either. (Dun dun dun)

Also, Kingdom of Jerusalem is still open

I'm just trying this because theres 2 people who really want the markians. =/

And also about the duel, because you refused, your faction was destroyed. Duel over, good game.. =x

Chaotix
07-23-2008, 22:11
You took both my remaining cities, huh? Maybe you should write up an endgame post or something in your thread

I did kind of ask for Makuria way before the other guy did... and that would definitely be my first choice. But if someone else is going to be heartbroken cause they don't get their Makurians, I guess I could take KoJ. I had a whole strategy and everything worked out for Makuria :grin:

Warmaster Horus
07-23-2008, 22:26
I'll take the KoJ, but I'm out of multiplayer battles. See, I've got a laptop that runs M2, but doesn't have the Internet, and I've got a desktop that runs the Internet, but doesn't run M2, so multiplayer is out of the question.

EDIT: didn't see Chaotix's post. Well, I'll take whatever faction is left.

Merlox
07-24-2008, 00:42
I am glad you are trying to discribe this, but here is a possible solution Since we are going to be playing either Playerr vs VH computer, auto resolve, OR, (Special request of player vs player) You can take the advantage of going player vs VH computer, and I will warn you, KoJ isn't for pushover, every one wants you dead. :o

UDATE:: I have ballanced the game out more, there is NO wooden castles or small towns any more.

Merlox
07-25-2008, 01:32
it was updated. any ways. I can't start the game unless if we get 2 more people, and every one picks a slot. I'm sorry. but. if we added a computer in here, it would be raped in 3 turns, and then it would make factions unballenced. So. any ways

( Chaotix27 = 1st choice ) ( Moobke = 1st Choice )
That is a problem, and you guys have no 2nds. Please pick a 2nd.

Also we need 2 more players, please find just two more.

Thermal
07-25-2008, 03:17
i just tried opening the test sav format file from the first page and it wouldnt let me, i tried infraview, abode and a few others...wht program should i beable the open the data with, if i dont hav a program able to open save data then i cant play, and i really want to! any suggestions 4 wht i can open saved files with?

Thermal
07-25-2008, 03:38
forget last post, all sorted, i just had another load of dunceness, ill stop congestin the forum up now

Merlox
07-25-2008, 03:40
its a rar... you go to winzip or winrar and download it, then you unzip the file into your SAVES under ME2 = BC = Saves. :o

Chaotix
07-25-2008, 04:11
BTW Merlox in my last post I said I'd take Jerusalem as a distant second choice. Also you should PM Moobke to see if he has a second choice, and remember that I did call Makuria first. :smash:

Merlox
07-25-2008, 04:19
Warmaster has 1st pick on jerusalem, Moobke's 2nd choice was Hindu raphuts, which as been taken as a 1st choice as well.

Merlox
07-25-2008, 17:43
Well, all changed now.. still waiting on 2 people.. /sigh

Ferret
07-25-2008, 18:04
deguerra and Zim, join now :whip:

Merlox
07-25-2008, 18:17
Ferret, PM them both, we just need 2 more people, and this game can start!

Ibn-Khaldun
07-25-2008, 18:19
ATPG haven't been here for awhile...
Are you sure he's going to play?

Merlox
07-25-2008, 18:21
I havn't seen him on Windows live for a little. I'm pretty confident he wants to join, it isn't like him to stay away fromME this long.

Thermal
07-25-2008, 19:51
ive told people at the twcenter about there beening a slot 4 turkey, hope u dont mind...

Empedocles
07-25-2008, 19:53
guys, if someone wants to take the ghorids it's ok. I will play whatever faction is free.
regards

Thermal
07-25-2008, 20:20
the ghorids u say....hmmm tempting....ill stick to the kypchaks though i think

Ulfang
07-26-2008, 15:18
Merlox invited me along to the party and will be happy to give it a go. I'm not too bothered who I play.

Merlox
07-26-2008, 15:58
Ok, your in Ulfang ... we need 1 more person, A person to play the turks, Prolly the hardest position in the game.

Merlox
07-26-2008, 21:28
Well, we need just one more person now, Maybe two if ATPG doesn't decide to even pop in at the games. Let's all hope that he shows up. He is a fine player in these games.

Also. Sindhs have been claimed

Thermal
07-26-2008, 23:35
i will keep posting of the mighty bc multiplayer hotseat campaign at twc about the turks being available, someone should else should come eventualy!

Chaotix
07-26-2008, 23:42
Alright, now that I've been bumped over to Jerusalem ~:pissed:, I've got a question to ask. Will I be allowed to call in my crusader reinforcements, or is that going to be banned from this game? Do any other factions get reinforcement stacks or anything? Oh, and I propose that if the game makes it that far, we get someone to play as the Mongol horde.... that could be fun... possibly someone who was knocked out earlier in the game.

Edit: I posted a thread at the TWC BC multiplayer forum advertising for this game.

Thermal
07-27-2008, 00:52
this is a bit embarrassing but when do the mongols usually come in? my longest campaign game was up tp turn 126 i think and still no sign of them...

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 00:53
i will play the turks if they are still open

Merlox
07-27-2008, 00:56
Luigi, do you have all of the mods, and are you from the TW center? just wondering

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 00:58
i am from the total war center, i havent downloaded the mod yet or anything just saying that i will play

Merlox
07-27-2008, 01:13
Well, The turks will be starting the game, Please download the game, read the rules. and if you are serious about this, the game will be full

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 01:15
ok ill download it as soon as i get up tomoz, so ill be ready

Merlox
07-27-2008, 01:53
Please also consider that this game will be Roleplayed as for the diplomacy reasons. also, ATPG has not been seen so much, and if this continues, I may just have a RL friend play until ATPG gets back.

Thermal
07-27-2008, 02:07
when will the diplomat thread b set up and wht it b called?

Merlox
07-27-2008, 02:17
Prolly BC3 Diplomacy thread, or something in the lines of that.

Merlox
07-27-2008, 03:19
Ok guys, Every one please re-read the rules, and look at what faction you are, This is final unless you want to trade nations with another, and they say it's ok, other wise, it stays!

Merlox
07-27-2008, 04:42
Sorry for a tripple post, But I have just heard word that ATPG is not gone forever, his computer is just blown up, at this case, I will take over for him, being for the fact that I will have no contact with him for a very long time, I will play my best ability to him. Also, Kingdom of Georgia and Antioch, You both have princesses... The Roman Empire has a heir with out a wife... :o

Ulfang
07-27-2008, 06:31
Myself and Horas are down for Khwarezmid Shahdom and Horas is also down for Georgia!? Who's who? I do play Georgia with a TWC BC Hotseat but don't mind who i play....

Ibn-Khaldun
07-27-2008, 09:16
Now ..

Are we ready to start this game??

Everyone have the mod and stuff?? :beam:

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 12:38
i just downloaded BC and installed it, but im having a problem starting the game i click on the quickstart shortcut and the game doesnt start to load?

Chaotix
07-27-2008, 13:14
@ Aries: I think the Mongols historically arrive somewhere around 1230. In Vanilla I know It's somewhere between 1200 and 1250.

@ Luigi: I believe I may have had the same problem as you when I first dl-ed the mod. Uninstall, reinstall, and make sure that you don't move ANY files around. The reason mine wouldn't work was because I kept moving bc.cfg to the broken crescent folder.

I'd like to make sure that Moobke definitely wants to keep Makuria, and if he does, I'm alright with Jerusalem still.
Post here to confirm your choice if you're reading this, Moobke.

And Merlox, I still need to know if I can use crusader reinforcements or not.

Merlox
07-27-2008, 15:31
Choat, You can use the crusader army. but for kicks, you have 2 full stacks in your kingdom, and a rather french large navy by Iraklion considing of a french crusading force lead by Jean the Crusader. This will act like a small crusade. but your economy can not handle another crusade, also. since your crusade is all the way by the north coast of Iraklion. It will take some time before the forces land. but this doesn't mean you can sack a few cities from any other nation.. but... the other nations may not think so highly of you.

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 15:43
i got BC working so i should be fine just going to check test save works and i should be fine to start

Thermal
07-27-2008, 16:15
gd! but i recommend tryin them 4 an hour or sommit b4 hand, caus its a completely new scenario, up 2 u though

Merlox
07-27-2008, 16:16
You have the hot fixes as well?

I'm posting up the Diplomacy thread, if you are wondering what the boundries are and such, Just use the map on the 1st page. It should give you a general idea.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-27-2008, 16:24
In the real game we will have the fog of war I hope??

Also ..does this mean that we are finally ready to start?

Thermal
07-27-2008, 16:29
i dont want the fog of war lol, seeing the whole map would b gd :beam:

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 16:31
sorry to be a pain but where could i get the hot fixes?
thanks in advance

Thermal
07-27-2008, 16:49
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=142288
found the fixes i think, i didnt hav them either

Thermal
07-27-2008, 16:55
sorry 2 re post, but i realized its in foreign anyone hav any english links?

Merlox
07-27-2008, 17:09
Broken Crescent Mod : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=140857
Broken Crescent Quick Fix update : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=142288
Broken Crescent Fraction Info : http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97742

Thermal
07-27-2008, 17:12
same as mine! i wne ton to quick fixes and prees download now and it brought me 2 a foreign page!
i cant download if i dont understand it, is it essential, can i convert it 2 english?

Thermal
07-27-2008, 17:18
found one in file front, luigi, if u havent already, use this
http://files.filefront.com/bcpatch105exe/;11119726;/fileinfo.html

Merlox
07-27-2008, 17:43
Turks

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4003

Upload the file back, The next turn will be the Romans, and I will play that, also, The game's diplomacy thread is up now.

Also, For the first turn, you may NOT attack any one, Or move your armies in other nation's lands., Though, you may mobilize armies, to a position you wish

NOTE: Every person MUST send there password to me through PM. thank you.

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 18:59
ERE up

http://www.atomicgamer.com/file.php?id=71071#

btw how do you upload the files because i know the way i did it was a failure.

Merlox
07-27-2008, 19:04
At the top, theres site tools, then upload file, go to PBM, then click that, then make addition, then browse the file, and yeah, bam,

It may of failed becuase you didn not zip it. =x Do not use the direct uplaoder, that is for big things

Also, It goes by this BC3 - turn - player #

So turks at turn 1 is BC3-01-01

Then romans at turn 1 is BC-3-01-02

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 19:08
the prodlem is when i click on upload a file, it just comes up with 'welcome back luigithepizzaman'

Ferret
07-27-2008, 19:27
The normal uploader is still down isn't it, try this one: http://www.mizus.com/files/pbmupload.php

Ibn-Khaldun
07-27-2008, 19:29
Perhaps we should upload the files like ..

BC3-01-Turks
BC3-01-ERE

The numbers can make things too confusing .. at least for me :beam:

But.. if that Merlox likes that number thing then .. I'll be fine with that too :yes:

luigithepizzaman
07-27-2008, 19:35
do i need to upload it again on the one you have posted or can you just download it from the link i posted, next time i will use yours sorry for any inconvience

Merlox
07-27-2008, 20:06
Maybe we should, but heres Georgia!

http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3-01-03.rar

Merlox
07-28-2008, 02:12
Wow, on the second thought, I am really doing horrible at the holder of the meeting, Hey Warhorse, Wanna switch? Georgia was my 2nd pick. XD

Chaotix
07-28-2008, 03:43
Is that a serious question? :laugh4:

What faction is before Jerusalem? the Ayyubids? :grin:

Merlox
07-28-2008, 03:45
Antioch is before, Ayyubids are after.

And it is... it is...

Empedocles
07-28-2008, 04:22
hi guys, we have to set some rules regarding the "scripting" reinforcements that certain factions gets in BC.
For example, the KoJ have the advantage that after being destroyed two stacks of soldiers appeared from nowhere and made them playable again.
Kypchaks also get some reinforcements.
Shall we allow them to have such help? I vote YES.

regards

phonicsmonkey
07-28-2008, 04:35
In BC1 we have taken the view that where the scripted reinforcements are available to the human player in the SP campaign, they should be allowed in hotseat.

So, the arrival of reinforcements for KoJ would be allowed, whereas the extra stacks which pop up for ERE and Turkey in the second turn were not...

I'm not sure about the Kypchak reinforcements - I know the AI gets these when they have 'united the steppes', but I haven't played a SP campaign as them so I don't know whether it applies to the human player also...

Merlox
07-28-2008, 04:54
Don't worry guys, The Roman 2 stacks, The Unite the Steppes units, and the turkish units were destroyed.

Each of these gave 2 stacks to rome, 3 stacks to turks, and 4 stacks to the Khans. Sense the game is about 22 turns into the game, I have released them all, And the thing about the Jerusalem Incoming boat, It is simply a man made crusader. I built the troops, built the navy, and saild them all the way by iraklion, to give the feel like at the start of the game, The Pope is more active. :D

Chaotix
07-28-2008, 05:31
Now that the topic is back up again, and no other factions are getting their extra stacks, should I refrain from calling for more crusaders with my pope request "buildings" in Jerusalem, Jaffa, and Acre?

Merlox
07-28-2008, 05:41
No. Because in reality, The crusading states always had more crusaders coming. lol Thats some what of there protection.

phonicsmonkey
07-28-2008, 05:58
Now that the topic is back up again, and no other factions are getting their extra stacks, should I refrain from calling for more crusaders with my pope request "buildings" in Jerusalem, Jaffa, and Acre?


Better make sure those crusaders aren't coming my way, or you won't have those buildings for very long...:laugh4:

:clown:

Merlox
07-28-2008, 18:23
Elite Ferret, You are up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/LDM/PBM/2008/2/2/5/0/9/2362-BC3-01-04.rar

(just a friendly reminder, Please post it on the forum and PM it to them, thank you!)

Chaotix
07-28-2008, 18:32
So you've switched over to Georgia, now, Merlox?

And to phonics, from what I recall, the Pope won't send his crusaders unless you attack me :evilgrin:

Merlox
07-28-2008, 18:42
No, i did not switch, I found it in the upload server when i was uploading my BC1 game.

Ferret
07-28-2008, 18:46
don't worry he sent me a PM. KoJ is up:http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3-01-05.rar

Merlox
07-28-2008, 18:49
Sorry Elite, just wanted to be more safe than sorry, and i also like to do it to let the people heads up as well, If it isn't posted, every one will think that the current saved player just went Awol. XD

Thats why I encurage to both PM and Thread post. :D keeps every one notified and the isn't horrible, esp with me when i'm sititing here and wondering where a save is.. XD or what happened to georgia.. >.>;

Warmaster Horus
07-28-2008, 23:34
Right, I didn't know whether to post here or not, so I only PM'd. I'll know from now on.

Merlox
07-28-2008, 23:39
Warmaster, you going to jump into the diplomacy as it is? or are you going to reject the invintation? :o

Warmaster Horus
07-29-2008, 00:21
I'm working on it.

Ulfang
07-29-2008, 02:26
Just to confirm that I am around if, when my turn comes up, I don't answer for a while. I'm on GMT so might be a bit of a delay with the time difference. I don't seem to get any emails to subscribed threads when a new post is made and don't get an email to notify me of a new PM even though I've set it up to do that so will check daily after I get home from work which will be after 6PM GMT although might not be able to process for a few hrs after that but I will get to it within 24 hrs of the turn being posted.

Merlox
07-29-2008, 04:00
That is fine, even if you check the website once every day. and see the turn, that would be great. also, You may want to jump into the Diplomacy Thread!

Merlox
07-29-2008, 07:02
Hey Choax, I've seen you on alot, you have that turn for the ayyubids,? If so, please post it. I will hound you until all of you post the saves onto this thread!

Chaotix
07-29-2008, 16:56
I've got the save here. Had a little trouble downloading it, that's all

http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3-01-06.zip

And I have to say, after a month or 2 of knowing you, that you are horrible at spelling people's names. :laugh4: Sorry, you simply must know. :grin:

Merlox
07-29-2008, 18:51
Ayyubids are Up! Download up one post!

Ibn-Khaldun
07-29-2008, 18:59
And after ayyubids it is the Abbasids turn .. finally :beam:

Thermal
07-29-2008, 19:47
and after the abbasids and some others...i only have ages to wait!...great...

Merlox
07-29-2008, 20:58
Imams are 2nd to last. :o lol I thin the Russians are 4th to last.. =x

phonicsmonkey
07-30-2008, 00:01
I'll get to this when I get home tonight - about ten hours or so

:2thumbsup:

Thermal
07-30-2008, 02:57
it isnt differcult 2 transfer your saved file to the next person after your turn is it, some seem 2 b having differculty, so i probably will seening as im new to this...

phonicsmonkey
07-30-2008, 04:54
It's very simple.

First you finish your turn and hit End Turn so that the login screen for the next faction appears.

Save the game using the correct filename.

Then you compress the save file (which can be found in your SEGA/MedievalTotalWar2/BrokenCrescent/saves folder) so that it is a .zip or .rar file. In XP, just rightclick and send to compressed file.

Then you go to one of the uploaders (I think only the mizus one is working right now):

http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Uploaders/pbmupload.php
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbmupload.php

Browse and select the zipped file from your saves folder and hit upload.

When it is finished, hit view to see the directory of uploaded files.

Find your file, copy the link (right-click and 'copy shortcut' or 'copy link location') and paste it into a post in this thread.

Then send a pm to the next in line to let him know it's his or her turn.

Merlox
07-30-2008, 05:43
And make SURE you post the save onto this thread!

I know you said it before, But it I must teach every one POSSTT INNN THREEADD :D

phonicsmonkey
07-30-2008, 09:59
abbasids are up

http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3-01-07.zip

and thanks Merlox for setting up the game - it's clear you've done a LOT of work! :2thumbsup:

Thermal
07-30-2008, 19:00
thanks! i think i can do tht lol:yes:

Chaotix
07-31-2008, 03:56
Hey all, I got news from ATPG via email: His computer is completely dead and he has to get a new one. He hasn't said whether he'll be dropping out of the game or not, but it's safe to say that we're gonna need a sub for at least a few turns. Merlox, maybe you should look for someone else to play his turns... either that or give it to an ally, like me :grin:.

phonicsmonkey
07-31-2008, 09:46
I just subbed for the Caliphate.

Ibn-Khaldun's M2TW disk is broken and he also has to pull out of the game.

Hopefully Merlox can find a replacement...

Seljuks are up!

http://mizus.org/files/pbm/BC3-01-08.zip

Merlox
07-31-2008, 17:53
I talked with Ibn, even though his evil 1 year old son oblitterated the disk, He may be gettign a new disk, so, i've convinced him to NOT pull out, and... where are the people any ways, Hindis, Ghorids, Kwas, African maraka, Seljuk

I don't know Choax. I like controlling the pizza empire. >.>; any ways, you might put him in bankruptcy! :O thats not friendly at all! I may let the Kingdom of Georgia due to the fact that KoG is one of thier more better astablished friendships. Kingdom of Antioch is on their borders, and KoJ is just really far away. XD

Empedocles
07-31-2008, 18:12
ghorids are here. waiting for our turn. if you want help subbing pm me.
regards

ps: sorry for not being active at the diplomacy thread.

Merlox
07-31-2008, 18:32
Hey, Ummm, If turko doesn't respond here, you wanna sub for them? The Seljuk Turks? we havn't heard from him once since the game started, also, Please bring your ghorid diplomat to the Diplomacy building! :O

Chaotix
07-31-2008, 18:32
Oh, I was just suggesting.... I also didn't know that the Romans' alliances with Georgia and Armenia were public yet. I'm sure one of them would probably be able to do a better job anyway.... but I don't fall into bankruptcy easily! Economy in this game is something I have mastered.

I also meant looking for someone completely new just in case ATPG drops out entirely. He's already dropped out of a few other games.

Merlox
07-31-2008, 18:40
The Romans did not alliance yet with the Antioch, They are somewhat down in the relations of the Roman Empire, but they are still enough to keep peace between them nations. Considering the fact that tne Antioch has been claiming all of the lands of the Roman Empire every time a city decides to break away from the Roman empire, making some what of a hate toward the antioch, As we all know it, ERE is a receeding empire. still loosing settlements, to the east, they are loosing settlements to the Turks by war, and Armenia by there cities breaking away from the ERE, and joining the Antioch,

Thermal
07-31-2008, 19:21
from wht i heard georgia and the ERE had bad relations in them times, so if ur doin diplomacy historically i wouldnt think they'd b allies

Warmaster Horus
07-31-2008, 19:36
Well, the Roman Emperor wanted to bestow on David IV (that guy I linked to, who basically brought Georgia glory) a title (panhypersebastos, literally August One Over All) that David refused to say that the ERE and the KoG would deal on a parity basis. His second daughter was also married to Isaakios Comnenus, so I guess they were somewhat friendly to each other (the KoG and the ERE, not the daughter and Isaakios).

turcoman
07-31-2008, 19:59
Hey, Ummm, If turko doesn't respond here, you wanna sub for them? The Seljuk Turks? we havn't heard from him once since the game started, also, Please bring your ghorid diplomat to the Diplomacy building! :O


Turcoman is here.

I will send my turn soon.

Thermal
07-31-2008, 20:15
oh right, then again georgia got on with the kypchaks 2 i think, so i should b ok, i no cause of the link you sent on the diplomacy lol

turcoman
07-31-2008, 21:07
Khwarezm
http://rapidshare.com/files/133907302/BC3-01-08_Khawarezm.zip.html

I am sorry but i couldnt upload the save file to mizus.org.I couldnt find where the browser are.Can someone teach me by PM?


Also what is diplomacy thread for?

Ibn-Khaldun
07-31-2008, 21:09
Diplomacy thread is for IC diplomacy..

That's where you can declare wars and other diplomatic transactions between other factions...

turcoman
07-31-2008, 21:40
Ok diplomacy thread updated

Ulfang
08-01-2008, 01:52
Just so you know the Khwarezmid Shahdom is quite interested in diplomacy but hasn't taken part on the thread as yet as I prefer to see what my position is in game before I go opening my mouth ;)

Thermal
08-01-2008, 02:30
if u've read any of my posts ulfang, other than insulting romans ive been asking 4 an allanice with you lol

Merlox
08-01-2008, 06:05
Ulfang, if you wanna know your position go to where i first posted the turns for the turks, or any one elses, and skip to your nation, No one has set thier passes yet.

Ulfang
08-01-2008, 11:55
if u've read any of my posts ulfang, other than insulting romans ive been asking 4 an allanice with you lol


Erm nope as I've not really looked over the thread yet ;) PM me!! I do enjoy IC threads but I rarely give anything away in them. I prefer to do my REAL diplomacy in private. I don't tend to let people know what I'm REALLY thinking lol


Ulfang, if you wanna know your position go to where i first posted the turns for the turks, or any one elses, and skip to your nation, No one has set thier passes yet.

Well what I mean is see my status within the game. My troops, cities, neighbours etc. I've never played the Kwarezmid's before and can't play IC diplomacy for a faction I know little about. I at least need to physically see my surroundings before I can effectively be a diplomat ;) And as I say little of what I'm really thinking will appear on the diplomacty thread. Anyone with any sense keeps their real feeling private when it comes to diplomacy ;)

Merlox
08-01-2008, 18:31
Exactly. lol, Download one of the save games, and go to your nation, >.>; you can physicly see where every thing is.

phonicsmonkey
08-02-2008, 01:15
I do enjoy IC threads but I rarely give anything away in them. I prefer to do my REAL diplomacy in private. I don't tend to let people know what I'm REALLY thinking lol

Exactly, the public diplomacy thread is for public statements, threats, bluffs, bragging and any other messages you want to send to everyone - including 'I'm open for private diplomatic business'

Merlox
08-02-2008, 02:24
Hey!

Khwarezm is UP!
http://rapidshare.com/files/133907302/BC3-01-08_Khawarezm.zip.html

, uhhh, Ulfang, you're up friend! click the site, download it, put it under your saves in BC, and then play it!, then upload it back up!

=x lol

Ulfang
08-02-2008, 16:45
Exactly. lol, Download one of the save games, and go to your nation, >.>; you can physicly see where every thing is.

ahh ok I didn't realise you could do that? I've never tried but I assumed if it wasn't your turn you couldn't access the save.

Ulfang
08-02-2008, 16:48
Hey!

Khwarezm is UP!
http://rapidshare.com/files/133907302/BC3-01-08_Khawarezm.zip.html

, uhhh, Ulfang, you're up friend! click the site, download it, put it under your saves in BC, and then play it!, then upload it back up!

=x lol

Hmmm ok slight problem... I don't seem to be able to download the save! I've used similar sites before but have never used rapid share. I click the link, select free user, wait the 30 secs or so for my download to become available then when the 30 secs is up I click download and it comes up with an error saying session timeout. I've tried 3 times now and I get the same error everytime?

Any ideas?

Ok scratch that. I have it now. It may have been a pop up block as when I tried it again pressing Ctrl at the same time as I clicked it opened.

Ghazni are now up - http://rapidshare.com/files/134340681/BC3-01_Ghazni.sav.html

barcamartin
08-03-2008, 11:59
Ghazni done, Ghorids up !

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/BC3-01_Ghorids.zip

PS.: You really have done a great job on this save, Merlox. If I could, I'd hug you. :beam:

Empedocles
08-03-2008, 16:59
rajputs are up!
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-Rajputs.zip

_Tristan_
08-04-2008, 08:45
Will get this done today at noon GMT (or so...)

Merlox
08-04-2008, 14:20
I think the african country needs subbing. I hear he went on a vacation on TW center. Emped, or Chaox, interested in subbing.?

_Tristan_
08-04-2008, 14:56
Will get this done today at noon GMT (or so...)

Make it tonight...:yes:

Chaotix
08-04-2008, 16:30
Yeah, I'll sub for Moobke, I want to try out the Makurians...
So if that's alright, everyone can send me pms for diplomacy regarding the Makurians for the time being. Just make sure you make it clear in the title that you're writing to Makuria and not Jerusalem :grin:
What faction is before Makuria in the order?

_Tristan_
08-04-2008, 21:02
Kypchaks :

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-Kypchaks.rar

Ferret
08-04-2008, 22:57
great timing again :laugh4: I can get to this when I get back from Berlin (probably Saturday morning) or ATPG can sub (if he gets back....)

At least I got to play one turn :clown:

Merlox
08-05-2008, 01:05
X_x;;; I i said noo attacking for the first turn!... lol... X_X;

Baad ghorids! bad!!!!

Warmaster Horus
08-05-2008, 01:06
What? What happened?

Merlox
08-05-2008, 01:13
The Ghorids attacked the hindus and took over the small 1 city nation before the hindu player could respond. x_x

I have two solutions for this, Either way will take a small bit off the ghorids, but the 1st option is basicly nothing, the 2nd option will do more damage, and might give the hindus something. ; ; Sorry, i gotta enforce rules as it is.

1st option: Redo the turn. http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/BC3-01_NewGhorids.rar
and your hand will be slapped, (Your pass is the same as the PM you sent me.)

2nd option: Continue with the game. And be slapped in the face. (I'll get the file after the Ghazies after the their 2nd turn. It will be worst than the 1st.)

Like i said, I am very sorry, but i gotta enforce rules. ; ;

Thermal
08-05-2008, 01:50
makurias up
(ps, dont giv into the oman bullies lol)
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-Makuria.zip

Merlox
08-05-2008, 02:28
From what i know, The Makurias are on vacation, So emp, this is your chance.

Empedocles
08-05-2008, 02:45
The Ghorids attacked the hindus and took over the small 1 city nation before the hindu player could respond. x_x

I have two solutions for this, Either way will take a small bit off the ghorids, but the 1st option is basicly nothing, the 2nd option will do more damage, and might give the hindus something. ; ; Sorry, i gotta enforce rules as it is.

1st option: Redo the turn. http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/BC3-01_NewGhorids.rar
and your hand will be slapped, (Your pass is the same as the PM you sent me.)

2nd option: Continue with the game. And be slapped in the face. (I'll get the file after the Ghazies after the their 2nd turn. It will be worst than the 1st.)

Like i said, I am very sorry, but i gotta enforce rules. ; ;


sorry guys. it seems I haven't read that rule.
I replayed my turn using the savegame from this previous post. does this mean that the Rajputs and Kypchaks will need to replay their turns? :help:

rajputs are up again!

http://rapidshare.com/files/134905147/bc3-01-Rajputs.zip.html

regards

ps: in my defence I didn't attacked a human controlled faction! :P

Merlox
08-05-2008, 03:06
It's fine, though, there will be a small penalty, you will see it next turn. *laughs evily*

barcamartin
08-05-2008, 08:48
I didn't think that rule was for AI controlled factions either. Not that there are many ... ;)

_Tristan_
08-05-2008, 09:03
Frankly, I don't care if Delhi fell to the Ghorids... So we can go on from where we are... I told Merlox there were things more worrying...

While I do not think it necessary to replay the turn, I will do it today...

Empedocles
08-05-2008, 12:01
Frankly, I don't care if Delhi fell to the Ghorids... So we can go on from where we are... I told Merlox there were things more worrying...

While I do not think it necessary to replay the turn, I will do it today...

it's fine by me. Merlox is right.

regards

_Tristan_
08-05-2008, 12:05
Kypchaks, again :

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-KypchaksNew.rar

@ Empedocles : losing your Sultan sure makes for a good reason to replay the turn :laugh4:

Ramses II CP
08-05-2008, 13:32
Err, I advised Empedocles to conquer Delhi specifically because it isn't under the control of a player and I presumed the Rajputs would take it if the Ghorids didn't. In essence it's a rebel town, so it wasn't necessary to attack anyone and the rule didn't seem to be broken.

Anyway, it's my error, not Emp's, so you know who to blame. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

Empedocles
08-05-2008, 14:01
@ Empedocles : losing your Sultan sure makes for a good reason to replay the turn :laugh4:

he knew the consequences when he ordered to Charge into a dozen of elephants in the middle of a city.

Merlox
08-05-2008, 15:39
well, I kinda made it so the Raputes hindus are like, best of allies, military acces, and all of that with the single AI, just due to the the fact that if it is a gate way into india, Also if i gave the city to the player, One little castle could never produce a stack full of garrison, also, We wouldn't get the messege of the islamish people invading.

I could care less that one was attacked, but also you brought up the fact that seige weapons = first turn blitz, The idea was that if the ghorids wanted to attack early they would have to siege it., the HINDUS could have to decide to attack the ghorids, or let them destroy the castle. It would be more of a RP thing than any thing else. =x

It's a matter of consiquence of the choice that they make, If the ghorids simply blitz that castle on the first turn, you are taking away that little element of fun.

but yeah, Tristian brought up some major rebalancing things, so... I thank you for that and i will make adjustments, and for the ghorids, just be happy the punishment is the balance, because i sounded i would do alot more when I was making the rules! lol.

So yeah, The ghorids single mobile seige weapon broke down due tot he fact that an earthquake hit the lands, and also downgraded there catapult making center. :O (Now your some what more even with the hindus!)

Thermal
08-05-2008, 15:59
so i hav 2 redo my turn?
mayb this is fate telling me tht i shouldnt of moved my army bk from the roman border lol

Merlox
08-05-2008, 16:23
Aries, you did your turn AFTER i told the ghorids they could re-do their turn, this has 0 things to do with you. :O lol

also, why don't you do the Marukian's as well, please take mind that they don't know any thing. (Just build them up alittle ok)?

_Tristan_
08-05-2008, 16:50
Anyway, it's my error, not Emp's, so you know who to blame. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:

Bad, Ramses, bad doggie...

:laugh4:

Merlox
08-05-2008, 18:27
The God of the BC world launches a nuke a the Sindh's empire.

Chaotix
08-05-2008, 19:09
Hey Merlox, I did agree to sub for Makuria when you asked a few posts back. :grin:
Maybe you missed the post...

Thermal
08-05-2008, 21:39
oh..well ive kinda like done the turn lol
sos choatix but i guess it was more convinant me doin it seein as i had the file, plus the fact i was curious 2 see wht makuria start with~:thumb:
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-Oman.zip
here the link 4 omans then...

Chaotix
08-06-2008, 04:35
grr.... :whip:

kk whatever, I don't mind at all. One faction is enough for me anyway!

Askthepizzaguy
08-06-2008, 13:53
At the moment I am still without a computer, but I'm going shopping for one. I can't stand it anymore.

If Rome hasn't been destroyed, and I have time, I will agree to be their emperor as promised. Thanks to anyone who might have subbed for me.

Merlox
08-06-2008, 23:02
I'm trying to upload the sindhs turn but for soemreason no uploadeers wil lwork alittle, it must be my connection so.. i will post it asap

Empedocles
08-07-2008, 00:46
use rapidshare. regards

Thermal
08-07-2008, 01:08
might seem like a weird post 2 put on a bc hotseat game but if i set an SS 6.1 would anyone play it? theres ss hotseats in twc center and they seem 2 go down well and i havent seen any here at the guild, so if anyones intrested say and ill try an get one started!
it has 2 b early era, wont let u go on late
id probably look 4 about 10 players max
not sure whether it would b better 2 hav players in a concentrated area (4 more challenge) or spread out (so u can fight computer more first)
please say which u'd prefer, b able 2 fight own battles, campaign and battle on hard
i only posted it here caus i thought more ppl would look lol, if many r intrested ill make a thread 4 it thanks

Merlox
08-07-2008, 01:53
Wrong FILE!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH Real one coming!

Thermal
08-07-2008, 02:01
yep i do, but tht on twc, dont stop us having another one lol, but at the guild instead

Chaotix
08-07-2008, 03:19
YES. Please set up an SS hotseat here.

*:heart:'s SS

Thermal
08-07-2008, 15:17
info info info ss hotseat update lol
if u want to join go into mtw2 forums, under touramant field, my thread should b there with the rules and such, first come first serve caus i was only alotting 10 spaces!

here saves hassle, the thread 4 the ss 6.1 (guild version) is here
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=106463

Ramses II CP
08-07-2008, 18:11
I'll have this done later today. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

Ramses II CP
08-08-2008, 01:46
The Turks are up:

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-02-Turk.zip

:egypt:

Merlox
08-08-2008, 01:51
Aries777777.... did youd ownload the NEW file that the hindus gave you? With this it is still the same old file... X_X

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-KypchaksNew.rar

Use that one.. you sent me the turns finished with the old one.

Please play your turn with the new one. -_-

Ramses II CP
08-08-2008, 01:55
Argh! I just checked and through the magic of mutual map information I can confirm that Delhi is in Ghorid hands in my save. :thumbsdown:

edit: PM'ing Luigi so he knows to put the brakes on while we sort back through this thing.

:egypt:

Merlox
08-08-2008, 01:58
Yes, Aries777777 didn't play the RIGHT save x_X

Thermal
08-08-2008, 02:46
Yes, Aries777777 didn't play the RIGHT save x_X

woops!
i did ask a bit earlier on if i had 2 redo my turn and u said it had nothin 2 do with me, sou kinda confused me:dizzy2:

Thermal
08-08-2008, 04:05
sorry 4 inconveniance, u hav 2 expect the beginner 2 get it wrong lol
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-OmanNew.zip
hopefully tht'll do, i hope, i beg...:oops:

Merlox
08-08-2008, 06:34
Sindhs, your new file is yours!

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-01-SindhNew.rar

and woot, the first turn is almost over!

Ramses II CP
08-08-2008, 14:43
New one for the Turks:

http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-02-Turks.zip

:egypt:

luigithepizzaman
08-08-2008, 23:07
ERE
http://www.mizus.com/files/pbm/bc3-02-ERE.zip

Ibn-Khaldun
08-09-2008, 00:02
When the Abbasids turn comes up then I'll play it.. Don't sub me.. I think my disk can handle some camp map activity :yes:

Askthepizzaguy
08-09-2008, 00:50
Ok, I am seriously going to attempt to play my own turn this time.

However, I have to download the mod, patches, upgrades, bells and whistles, and it may take me a day or two.

Everyone ok with waiting? I will not make a habit of taking this long.

Chaotix
08-09-2008, 02:12
Gah. I'm going on vacation on Sunday, so if you do that, I guess you'll probably be subbing for me. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though... :thinking:

Askthepizzaguy
08-10-2008, 00:32
sorry, I still dont have the link to a 1.5 patch.

If ANYONE has the original .exe setup file still on their computer so that I can install 1.5, and then the quickfixes as well, I can play my turn.

Thanks for the attempt, Cassu, but I do not trust those pay sites or the sites that offer a way to get around paying. Not with this new computer. If someone can email me the 1.5 patch (and the quickfixes if you still have them) please attach them and send to askthepizzaguy@yahoo.com

Also, those links sent me to a different download... not bc 1.5 I dont think.

Ferret
08-10-2008, 00:36
the quickfixes can still be found in the patch thread at TWC: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=142288

but I can't find a working patch download...

edit: now I can:http://files.filefront.com/bcpatch105exe/;11119726;/fileinfo.html

Askthepizzaguy
08-10-2008, 00:45
Dare I say, you rawk Elite Ferret.

Maybe, just maybe, you aren't such a bad guy after all. :laugh2:

Ferret
08-10-2008, 12:28
when was I a bad guy :inquisitive:

Chaotix
08-10-2008, 18:19
Alright, here's the deal, guys. I'm leaving on vacation either late today or early tomorrow, and I'll be getting back on Saturday. As we're probably not going to get to my turn before then, I'd appreciate it ATPG would sub my turn(s) for me. Sorry bout all this.

Askthepizzaguy
08-11-2008, 02:03
Oy.

Sorry folks, after numerous attempts, Kingdoms with BC mod, 1.5 patch, and 3 quickfixes on a windows Vista operating system isn't working for me.

I am stuck. You may have to drop me from the game. I may not be able to repair this tonight, and in order to play I may have to do a full, fresh reinstall of Kingdoms, BC, 1.5, and the fixes, and try again.

:wall:

UPDATE:

BC works. The save file simply will not open at all.

Merlox
08-11-2008, 05:10
Oh stop crying ATPG and fix it!!!. Did you download the vista CFG file? and make SURE you didn't put it as sytem downgrade to XP?

phonicsmonkey
08-11-2008, 06:44
BC works. The save file simply will not open at all.

Does it appear in-game in the list of saves?

If so, do you get a CTD when trying to load it?

Or, does it fail to appear even though you have copied it to the correct saves folder in your BC directory?

If it's the latter, it may have something to do with admin rights over program folders in Vista - I'm really just pulling this out of thin air, but I'm sure I saw something like this either here or at twcenter where vista problems were reported - have you searched both forums?

I'm afraid I'm not much help, but I know it's possible to get BC 1.05 running on Vista and play hotseat campaigns because I installed it on my Vista laptop and played a BC hotseat turn successfully when I was overseas earlier this year..

Ferret
08-11-2008, 12:18
If the save does not show up in the game loading screen then you may have put it in the wrong place, for vista you need to go to the BC folder and then press "compatability files" at the top of the window and find the save folder there, otherwise the game wont find it.

Askthepizzaguy
08-12-2008, 00:30
I dont get a crash to desktop.

It attempts to load, then it just loads the menu screen again. Attempting to reinstall.

This will be my final attempt at a reinstall. frankly I have college coming up and my time is severely strained as it is. I'm sure people have noticed that my Dread Knights game, my BC2 game, the LoTR game, the Simpsons mini Mafia game, and other games have all been put on hold, and I've subbed all my hotseats.

I cannot keep up with all this... was doing fine before the computer crash but now I am 2 weeks behind everyone else, with a full time job, college, and social life.