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Dutchhoplite
07-20-2008, 21:34
I don´t know if it´s entirely accurate but at he moment i´m using:

2 Velite
2 Principe
2 Hastati
1 Triarii

I´m curious what´s your Polybian legion set up??

Che Roriniho
07-20-2008, 21:55
currently it's:

1 Commander
1 Tribune
1 Pedites Extrordinarii
2 Hastati
3 Principes
2 Triarii
2 Allied Light Inf.
2 Allied Heavy Inf.
1 Assenci
1 Velites
2 Allied Ranged troups
2 Allied Cavalry (Equites Romani are AWFUL.)

In the standard manipular formation. Although, in difference to the usual, I put the allied peeps in the middle, so as to catch people out in a cannae-type thing.

Caught out a few people with that. Especially my mate. (I was in the other room, and all I could here was (WHAT THE $%&? WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? I'm SURROUNDED!. Hilarious.)

QuintusSertorius
07-20-2008, 22:14
As per my guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=101787), a consular army is composed of two legions and two alae.

A legion is roughly:
1 skirmisher (Velites or Accensi)
1 hastati
1 principes
1 triarii (half-sized)

An ala is:
1 skirmisher (peltastai, akontistai, iaosatae, etc)
1 light infantry (Bruttians, Lucanians, etc)
1 heavy infantry (Samnites, Neitos, etc)
1 cavalry (Ligurians, Campanians, Curepos, etc)

Add to two each of the above:
1 General
1 FM as equites and tribune
1 pedites extraordinarii/Samnite Heavy infantry

Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
07-20-2008, 22:22
For a Polybian Full stack I use:

4 Velites

4 Hastati

4 Princepes

2 Triarii

1 Pedites Extraordinarii

1 Equites Extraordinarii

2 Equites

1 General

That's a full Consular Army. No offence to Quintus et al but as far as I can see halving the number of Triarii is just a waste of unit slots as they usually operated in a massed pike block anyway.

If you want a more ethnically diverse set up you halve the number of specifically Roman units (not the extraordinarii) and replace them with Greeks and Italics. I don't think it's generally appropriate to use Gauls or other Barbarians in a Consular Army unless you're in need of men, i.e. in Greece or Gaul with 4 turns until you get some new chaps from back home.

Che Roriniho
07-20-2008, 23:04
For a Polybian Full stack I use:

4 Velites

4 Hastati

4 Princepes

2 Triarii

1 Pedites Extraordinarii

1 Equites Extraordinarii

2 Equites

1 General

That's a full Consular Army. No offence to Quintus et al but as far as I can see halving the number of Triarii is just a waste of unit slots as they usually operated in a massed pike block anyway.

If you want a more ethnically diverse set up you halve the number of specifically Roman units (not the extraordinarii) and replace them with Greeks and Italics. I don't think it's generally appropriate to use Gauls or other Barbarians in a Consular Army unless you're in need of men, i.e. in Greece or Gaul with 4 turns until you get some new chaps from back home.

I replace the Eq. Ex. with a Tribune, so when the tribune becomes a general himself, he'll have high Valour from repeated charges. I've heard high valour for Generals increases morale of troops, plus it's more historically accurate.

||Lz3||
07-20-2008, 23:23
I think that the tribunes actually don't get any benefits , since they are not in charge... once my tribune (who I used for 10 years as a tribune...) still had the "green" trait until the first battle he commanded

Che Roriniho
07-20-2008, 23:24
I think that the tribunes actually don't get any benefits , since they are not in charge... once my tribune (who I used for 10 years as a tribune...) still had the "green" trait until the first battle he commanded

I just have them there to use as heavy cavalry :laugh4: All the other roman stuff is awaful.

QuintusSertorius
07-20-2008, 23:35
Using an FM as both tribune and representing the equites (which were historically a smaller unit than the allied cavalry anyway) works very well.

Rilder
07-20-2008, 23:55
My legions usually consist of 10 units.

1 General
1 Calvary
2 Hasati
2 Principes
1 Trarii
1 Missile units (usually allied)
2 Allied infantry