View Full Version : The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia [Concluded]
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:27
-Does anyone refute that he is RYDIA?
What was your ability, if any?
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:28
Poor Shlin... :no:
-Does anyone refute that he is RYDIA?
What was your ability, if any?
goodness, u must no everything, fine im protected from only one attack, with a chance of killin g the person making an attack/lynch on me
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:30
If you want, Shlin, maybe the investigator can take a peek at you. (getting late today, we don't even know if he's listening).
If you're confirmed innocent, he can remain silent again. I think that's the best system. Then you can join all the "cool" people.
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:31
goodness, u must no everything, fine im protected from only one attack, with a chance of killin g the person making an attack/lynch on me
How does that work? Does it target the first person who voted you? Or the last person? Or random? Or all?
May want to ask Chaotix if you don't know.
How does that work? Does it target the first person who voted you? Or the last person? Or random? Or all?
May want to ask Chaotix if you don't know.
i pm'd to ask, no answer yet
is this not enough, ive put my life out for you just because i agreed with wht u've said! shame on you for beating this out of a fragile woman
If you want, Shlin, maybe the investigator can take a peek at you. (getting late today, we don't even know if he's listening).
If you're confirmed innocent, he can remain silent again. I think that's the best system. Then you can join all the "cool" people.
Yay! I don't see why the investigator would not be listening, we do have a 24 hour night phase after this you know :inquisitive:
FactionHeir
09-03-2008, 21:35
Meh.
unvote: Aries, vote: WH
Meh.
unvote: Aries, vote: WH
some faith at last
unvote: EF
vote:WH
mose well bandwagon:clown:
What is the chance of you killing them?
What is the chance of you killing them?
66%
unvote:Aries
vote:WH
and I have no idea what the tally is...
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:42
Hmm...
WH may be innocent but he's not here to vote, etc. And I think maybe the investigator should check Aries' story before we lynch him.
I think we should stay the execution for another night. If the investigator is out there, I request a check on Aries. Silence means OK, as usual.
Pah, thats just delaying my entry into the cool club :furious3:
Will not vote WH yet... he did post in the other thread so he should post soon...
Tiberius of the Drake
09-03-2008, 21:46
Can some one please post the tally. the freakin weather here, I.e tropical storm remnants of Hurricane Gustav, have prevented me from logging on to the site since Monday thus my absence. hopefully my crappy temporary dial-up, until I get my DSL back, will not comp;etely die *crossed fingers*
Edit: bah the tally was put up before i finished posting
Seriously, tally...
i'm gonna double-check this right now.
Aries - 2
Caius - 2
QJC - 2
wh-3
i think thts the tally, how many jobs can an investigator do? as a newbie im not completely sure how it works???
but anyway please do investigate, but how do we no there is an investagatior? hav 2 assume then...and i do ask of you to leave me be, im incredably vunerable to murder as it is! lynchs aside, because if i do get lynched and i get to pick who i attempt to take with me, chances are ill be taking you with me, as i previously said
Quintus- 3 (Aries, El D., glyphz)
Caius- 2 (Caius, WH)
WH - 2 (FH, EF)
Aries- 2 (ATPG, QJC)
EF - 1 (shlin27)
i think this is the tally....
Aries7s, only bolded votes/unvotes are credited
(still editing & triple checking)
deadline draws nearer
And exactly why would the mafia try to murder you if you have a 2/3 chance of killing them instead? It doesn't all add up Aries....
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 21:54
Ummm... vulnerable to murder?
Don't you have a 66% chance of killing the murderer if he tries that? If that's the case, I highly encourage the rat bastard killer to target Aries. Go ahead and blow yourself up!
Your behavior puzzles me Aries.
FactionHeir
09-03-2008, 21:56
Can some one please post the tally. the freakin weather here, I.e tropical storm remnants of Hurricane Gustav, have prevented me from logging on to the site since Monday thus my absence. hopefully my crappy temporary dial-up, until I get my DSL back, will not comp;etely die *crossed fingers*
Edit: bah the tally was put up before i finished posting
I think thats a good excuse to unWoZ :tongue2:
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:01
With an investigation on Aries (I hope), we will soon find out the truth of all this.
Shlin, I think you're my next highest suspect.
Unvote
Vote: Shlin
Ummm... vulnerable to murder?
Don't you have a 66% chance of killing the murderer if he tries that? If that's the case, I highly encourage the rat bastard killer to target Aries. Go ahead and blow yourself up!
Your behavior puzzles me Aries.
lols, you do relize others hav abilities to, and this is a one time ability only, mayb some would risk it, flipin investigate if u dont believe, i am a puzzling person, dont need to understand lol, im still vunerablish ish to murder, but thanks for giving everyone the motivation to attack me atpg lol, then again after you saying tht i may perhaps be safer, oh im confused:laugh4:
unvote:WH
vote:Shlin
This is fun :beam:
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:05
If what youre saying is true, you're useful to town alive.
WH and Shlin are the next two highest suspects. I'm thinking it's Shlin, but the whole reason why we have extra time may be because WH isn't here.
I pick Shlin.
If what youre saying is true, you're useful to town alive.
WH and Shlin are the next two highest suspects. I'm thinking it's Shlin, but the whole reason why we have extra time may be because WH isn't here.
I pick Shlin.
if wh dont comment, why not vote him???
at least shlins made comments, i guess it doesnt matter
also apprently i need to write in bold sounvote:elite ferret
not decided on my vote yet
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:08
I think WH may legitimately not be at his desk. I think we have extra time because Chaotix isn't here.
FactionHeir
09-03-2008, 22:15
WH was mafia in the other game and lurked just as much.
I think WH may legitimately not be at his desk. I think we have extra time because Chaotix isn't here.
fine, sorry shlin, ive been bullied into voting you lol
vote:shlin
omg fh, now im confused
New page, new tally...
glyphz's tally
shlin27- 3 (ATPG, EF, Aries7s)
Quintus- 2 (El D., glyphz)
Caius- 2 (Caius, WH)
WH - 1 (FH)
Aries- (QJC)
EF - 1 (shlin27)
Aries - your last bolded vote was Quintus, but bolded unvote applies to all
Quintus.JC - I'm guessing you're no longer after getting yourself lynched to prove yourself, thus I'm no longer obliged to keep my vote on you
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:19
Then he should be our top suspect tomorrow.
If there is a vigilante, I hope he gets him.
I want to be able to ask WH to reveal his role, etc, and so on, and see how he reacts under pressure.
Quintus.JC
09-03-2008, 22:27
This is seriously turning into a Migard...
Will someone please do a tally? I already attempted to do one and failed miserablely.
This is seriously turning into a Migard...
Will someone please do a tally? I already attempted to do one and failed miserablely.
numerous tallies hav been done, the lasts accurate...i think....
Quintus.JC
09-03-2008, 22:31
Unvote: Aries77
I'm so confused. :dizzy2:
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:32
I have the full tally.
unbolded votes never counted, here it is:
As of post 282
Askthepizzaguy- Aries, Shlin
Warmaster Horus- Caius
Quintus.JC- QJC, QJC, Aries, Unvote
shlin28- QJC, EF
El Diablo- QJC
Elite Ferret- Aries, WH, Shlin
FactionHeir- WH, Aries, WH
Aries777777- QJC, WH, QJC, Shlin.
glyphz- QJC
Caius- ATPG, Caius
EDIT: QJC's unvote last post.
Shlin- 3
Caius- 2
EF- 1
QJC- 2
WH- 1
it dont help when i keep changing my vote
what can i say other than, i may change it to quintus again if he dont change his, im truely abusing the vote system:beam:
edit: let u off lols
Quintus.JC
09-03-2008, 22:45
This has gone long enough...
Let's end this.
Vote: Shlin
Fly you fools...
Edit: Oops, wrong game. :embarassed:
Unvote: Quintus.JC
shlin27- 4 (ATPG, EF, Aries7s, Quintus.JC)
Caius- 2 (Caius, WH)
Quintus- 1 (El D.)
WH - 1 (FH)
EF - 1 (shlin27)
I do hope El D., WH and (esp.) Caius can take part before voting phase ends. I also wonder if Tiberius might be reinstated, his situation was or still is serious
Tiberius of the Drake
09-03-2008, 22:49
I think thats a good excuse to unWoZ :tongue2:
Dang oi was wog'd?
Dang oi was wog'd?
lols u realized, bad luck, your brain exploded...
and ruined my porridge, how could you?
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:52
Yes, you were spirited away into the cruel, harsh, near-vaccuum of space by the evil one known as Zemus. (Chaotix)
Quintus.JC
09-03-2008, 22:52
Dang oi was wog'd?
Afraid so... :embarassed:
Askthepizzaguy
09-03-2008, 22:54
I have to run now, folks. Mah girlfriend is callin my name.
I anxiously await the results...
lols u realized, bad luck, your brain exploded...
and ruined my porridge, how could you?
Oh right... His head did explode.:bomb2:
I guess, no white magic or phoenix down can undo that.
Maybe, if Phoenix just happens to pass by the Lunar Whale:rolleyes:
On a more serious vote, I think the voting phase is about to end.
Since I can't decide, and so far has not reached a decision concerning shlin28 (everybody else has a vote), i'll return my old ballot Vote: Quintus.JC for now
All right guys, sorry about being late, I got back later than I expected. I'm gonna read up on what happened while I was gone and then post the write-up. Voting is closed, unless you haven't voted yet. Please vote if you haven't yet done so.
Vote Results
shlin28- 4 (Quintus, Aries, ATPG, EF)
Caius- 2 (Caius, WH)
Quintus.JC- 2 (El D., glyphz)
Warmaster Horus- 1 (FH)
The Lynching:
After a long discussion at the table, things were about to turn violent. The ten heroes had decided that they would lynch the one most likely to be under Zemus' control. They all voted for who they personally thought was to blame. They had made a box where each would drop their vote in on a slip of paper. By the end of the voting, there was one name that stood out amongst the others. One that nobody thought they would ever hear associated with Zemus. Rosa.
Rosa would plead and beg, but each time to no avail:"No! Please, you must believe me! All I have ever done is tried to help! All of you, how can you do this to me? Cecil! Help me, please! You can't let them kill me..."
But Cecil only lowered his head. I can't, he thought. I'm sorry, Rosa, but we agreed this is what we would do. I can't take it back now... how have I been led so far astray?
"We need to decide... who will do the deed," came the words from Kain's mouth. "I say it should be one of those who voted to kill her in the first place. One of you shall feel the shame of what you have decided!"
Rydia stepped up now. "Very well... I'll do it." Everyone was shocked at Rydia being one of those who voted to lynch Rosa. By now, even others who had voted for her were feeling ashamed of themselves.
Rosa's face was now one of grim resignation. She had dried her tears. Rydia's was one of grim determination. She began channeling magic through her body, for a long enough time that everyone realized she was going to summon an Eidolon to deal death for her. Even she herself was not prepared to kill personally one who she had once considered a dear friend.
Finally she was ready. "Odin, master of the blade, I call upon you to do my will!" Green rings of light surrounded Rydia's body, brightening slowly and then quickly flaring into a flash that blinded everyone for a second or two. When their eyes could see, they saw the huge figure of Odin, a knight in azure armor that was nearly twelve feet tall. This instantly convinced everyone that the figure they saw was not human.
The massive knight-king spoke: "Rydia, what have you called me for? I see no enemy before me."
"There she is," Rydia replied, pointing to Rosa.
"This? This is what you have summoned me for? She is but an innocent girl! She cannot be much older than you, surely! And she wears the robes of a White Mage! You would have me kill her for you? What have you against this girl, Rydia?"
Rydia stammered under the booming voice of the Eidolon. "Sh-She... she is a traitor. She has joined the side of Ze-Zemus, and is plotting against us."
Rosa flinched, as if she had been stung, pain visible on her face. Everyone knew that nobody had ever voluntarily joined Zemus, not even Golbez.
"I find this hard to believe," was Odin's reply. "I will do the deed. But summon me no more for tasks such as this. You could have killed her yourself, if you have such an intention that she should die. Think about what you have done today, Rydia, and all who would sentence this girl to death."
Odin drew his massive blade, known as Zantetsuken, the Blade of Death. He raised it, and there was a flash. And suddenly it was all over. Rosa lay in a bloody heap, and was dead for sure. Once the Blade of Death strikes, none can escape it. And Odin had dissappeared completely.
All that was left was the sound of Odin's voice in the heroes' ears. Think about what you have done today...
Dead:
Tiberius of the Drake- Will of Zemus
shlin28- Lynched
Still Alive:
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
FactionHeir
Caius- survived one lynch
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
Askthepizzaguy
glyphz
Elite Ferret
Night 2 begins.
I know that took a while, but I think it was worth it in the end. This phase should be a normal 24 hours long.
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 02:19
There was nothing scummy about shlin. FoS everyone that voted him.
Also, I'd like to ask everybody if they like these longer, story-filled types of write-ups instead of the shorter, more concise one that I did for Caius's lynch. I personally like the long ones, but if everybody playing the game would rather the boring ones, I suppose I could go back. :tongue:
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2008, 03:25
There was nothing scummy about shlin. FoS everyone that voted him.
Hmm... what an odd thing to say. That would mean 4 mafioso.
You know full well that sometimes innocent people get lynched in these games, more often than not it's the case.
Your reasons for your vote were what, that person not posting very much? Nothing more substantial than the rest of us had to go on.
:no:
One could suggest that you've been acting strangely. Not as focused as usual... not as much of a contributor. Just the occasional low-key post here and there. Should we FoS you?
Not me, and not yet. I believe maybe you're still trying to help town. But, if you're going to FoS people for doing exactly what you've been doing... how is that helpful?
Let's see if anyone comes forward regarding Aries, and if not, then we will think about the one you voted for, because I do tend to agree that lurkers should be checked out.
:smash:
Fewer suspects, more cleared names.
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 09:00
Also, I'd like to ask everybody if they like these longer, story-filled types of write-ups instead of the shorter, more concise one that I did for Caius's lynch. I personally like the long ones, but if everybody playing the game would rather the boring ones, I suppose I could go back. :tongue:
The long one is better.
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 13:17
ATPG:
My thinking is that you directed the town to lynch shlin without any good reason other than saying "he and WH are highest on my suspect list" and everyone else blinding running after you. That alone should be sufficient reason to FoS, as there was no discussion as to why he was guilty or at the top of your suspects list. Add to that, he was behaving as he normally does as townie and helping the town in general.
My reasons for WH were quite clear. He lurked, hardly posting anything. In the other mafia game he did exactly the same and was guilty. That is a good reason to suggest that it is the same here, especially as he was online when people voted him but didn't respond at all.
One has to wonder if you aren't the mafioso yourself and just using the spotlight to direct attention away from you really.
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2008, 14:08
@FactionHeir
Yes, deflecting attention away from me...
:gah:
Too predictable.
Aren't you like the third or fourth person now to suspect me? This has got to be the most counterproductive strategy for a mafioso EVER, if that is indeed what it is.
:laugh4:
And as I said, give me another night or so, and my work will be done. Then you all can have a lynch fest on me, and I'll put the noose on myself.
Askthepizzaguy
09-04-2008, 14:17
Oh, and there were very good reasons to lynch Shlin. I'll outline it right here for ya, buddy:
1. Aries claimed to have an ability which could have taken out at least one townie should we have lynched him. I wanted to find out if that was accurate or not.
2. Aries ability, if town, would be a great asset for town. One more spike for the mafioso to impale himself on.
3. Aries responded and cooperated with the investigation to my satisfaction.
4. FactionHeir is usually fairly useful to town, and although you'd make the perfect mafioso, you'd be more valuable to us alive (for now). Especially if I were to die... FactionHeir could easily take over the investigation where I left off. I trust he'd be able to find the killer or at least root them out.
5. El Diablo was not here to suffer under the intense scrutiny of the investigation, so pressuring him wouldn't reveal anything. But he's still a top suspect.
6. Warmaster Horus wasn't here either. But, he's next on the list in my book.
7. I haven't found Shlin particularly useful to town's investigation. We could afford to lose him.
_____________________
I hope this helps you understand my motivations. One more night and I'll be ready to present my case to town. Deal with me however you like then. Town cannot die today or tomorrow, you have plenty of time left due to the fact that there appears to be no vigilante, or at least the vigilante might have died, or they are saving the vigilante kill until it's a safe shot.
_____________
I have to head to work now, it will be at least 9 hours before I can log back in, and I have a buttload of homework to do when I get home. I'll still contribute to the discussion, if I am still alive, but I doubt I will be able to contribute as much as I have been.
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 14:27
Ah but you see, its the points 6 and 7 on your list that's worrying me. Why shlin over WH, especially as WH seemed quite a bit scummier as I pointed out?
While there is some suspicion on you (because using the spotlight on yourself seems very unmafia-like, but was nevertheless employed previously), I am more concerned about the others that just jump on the wagon whenever you call it.
But he didn't call it did he? IIRC he was the third person to vote for Shlin.
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 15:00
But he didn't call it did he? IIRC he was the third person to vote for Shlin.
Actually he was the first. Check page 9's tally and then ATPG's vote on page 10.
So he was, I must be remembering another bandwagon :laugh4:
Warmaster Horus
09-04-2008, 16:04
Hmm... I'll ask you guys (especially FH) to remember that I've started my last year of High School 3 days ago. I'm going to be busy, and if I lurk, then it won't be my fault.
I've been much less active here than in Starship Exodus (5 posts here, 17 over there; I wouldn't say I lurked there), because there's too much discussion going on. I should have guessed that would happen with ATPG here, but 10 pages for barely 2 nights... TOO MUCH!
Anyhoo, everyone was voting me after 10H35 my time (GMT+2). Folks, I gotta be at the school (which is 20 minutes away from where I live) at 8 am. This means I should wake up 'round 6h45 and to have 8 hours of sleep, I should be in bed at around 10h30.
Guys, when I was being voted for, I was logging out. Checking my PMs, LotR and WotB busied me right before that. I didn't have time even to contest!
So, can someone tell me why I'm under suspicion, other than the fact I've been lurking?
And I've been going through the last couple of pages... I've got one thing to say:
Quoting pms, from me or anyone else, is not allowed.
Asking somebody to reveal is almost like quoting PMs. The main difference is that one's got a nice little box around the text.
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 16:20
While quoting isn't allowed, revealing is. Quoting = copy/pasting a huge chunk from the role PM for instance. paraphrasing or using bits and pieces is not considered quoting.
That said, suspicion rests on your behavior as its identical to that in shlin's Starthip mafia where you were the mafioso. That is quite a plausible reason.
If you feel you do not have enough time to actively participate, Chaotix did say you can drop out and give the role to someone else. Otherwise it must be assumed that you prefer lurking.
:furious3:
Now I am really angry, first I am not allowed into the cool club, and now I get bandwagonned when NOBODY even tried to ask me anything? In the first game where I tried to actively help the town, I get lynched just because you 'think' I am guilty. If you, oh I don't know, ASKED me something, and then lynch me, I will be fine. But no, let's lynch him when there is no evidence. (I know its partly my mistake that I did not post that I will be offline, but still...)
In any case, you could have forced me and someone into a tie, thus giving me sometime to reply (if there is an extension period as usual). Just going off and lynching me shows that you want to kill me desperately, a desperate gamble because you found out my role perhaps? :whip:
and to ATPG:
1. Aries claimed to have an ability which could have taken out at least one townie should we have lynched him. I wanted to find out if that was accurate or not.I can agree with that...yet you didn't even ask me to reveal. (You didn't even reveal yourself, it seems you are just forcing everyone but you and your oh so special group to reveal)
2. Aries ability, if town, would be a great asset for town. One more spike for the mafioso to impale himself on.Same as above, and the mafia would not be dumb enough to attack Aries now that he has revealed.
3. Aries responded and cooperated with the investigation to my satisfaction.He has been, let's say, very uncooperative before that, and now you trust him (frankly, I think that the transformation from "NO, I'll never reveal my role." to "Oh alright then..." a bit too quick for my taste...). But me, who has been helping since the beginning, is offed...
4. FactionHeir is usually fairly useful to town, and although you'd make the perfect mafioso, you'd be more valuable to us alive (for now). Especially if I were to die... FactionHeir could easily take over the investigation where I left off. I trust he'd be able to find the killer or at least root them out.Wow, how would you know FactionHeir can carry out the investigation later? You cannot know his role at all, unless you yourself is a detective, which I doubt. Even worse, I don't think you can organise a town group without mentioning a single teeny tiny bit of what you can do, I mean, if you say you found someone innocent to anyone at all, thats breaking the rules. So is if you tell them you protect him etc etc...
5. El Diablo was not here to suffer under the intense scrutiny of the investigation, so pressuring him wouldn't reveal anything. But he's still a top suspect.I wasn't here either.
6. Warmaster Horus wasn't here either. But, he's next on the list in my book.I wasn't here either.
7. I haven't found Shlin particularly useful to town's investigation. We could afford to lose him.I havn't been useful? I have been posting and trying to find the mafia from the beginning...
If you had bothered to question me at all, I would have happily revealed... but now I can't, so I'll just say you made a big mistake. A BIG MISTAKE (Emphasis on the BIG).
I hope this helps you understand my motivations. One more night and I'll be ready to present my case to town. Deal with me however you like then. Town cannot die today or tomorrow, you have plenty of time left due to the fact that there appears to be no vigilante, or at least the vigilante might have died, or they are saving the vigilante kill until it's a safe shot.
Frankly, WH and the others are far more suspicous and lynchable, did they help the town like I did? Nope, nada.
and finally... WHY is Aries kept alive? His role is worthless now that he has revealed, as no sane mafia would attack him... so you point about how he is oh so important is not so important after all; amd I would doubt that the host would put in the ability to kill the person who voted him, as that just seems so... serial killer-like, such as the role in Taorimina (or something like that...) who kills everyone who voted for someone.
Phew, rant over :clown:. I'm just angry that I didn't get to reveal, get into the townie group and see the town win.
Yes, I don't think the town is going to win, the town is led by a crazy lunatic (:clown:) who everyone else follows blindly (make your own points! Don't just follow someone...), and that is not the direction this game should go in :bow:
and here is my super duper conspiracy theory:
ATPG has publicly announced that there is a townie grand plan in the works. If he really is town, he would try to keep it hidden, and thus, when the mafia least expects it, he springs it on them.
But no, he announced publicly, knowing full well that the mafia would be expecting this super duper plan of his, and thus possibly leading to the potential failure of da plan.
Thus, I propose to you, the honest travellers of this strange ship, that ATPG is pretending to be town and is thus the bravest mafia player I have met and the only one who had pulled off this gamble.
I believe that ATPG is scum :bow: Please make your mind up yourself, and let me watch this amazing show.
(Yes I know my ideas are a bit 'far-out', but I'm just suggesting it to you guys...)
So were in the night phase i assume? the first successful lynch, i very much band wagoned because i was abstaining, having no clue who to vote for i typically went with the minority, though i was unsure about it, but seeing as my character decided to kill his then ill hav to take the blame:shame:
anyway i would be tempted to vote for warmaster horus next, if that can be agreed on, FH, i do see your anger about shlins death, but most characters are suspects, and it seems we went for our instincts, our well (im thinking he may of been innocent lol)
edit: shlin, can the dead post? i thought not! return to your grave! i was never completely against revealing my role i only said 'i feel no reason to reveal my role yet' ive never said 'no way' or whatever your saying, you say i should be killed now ive revealed!? whos the scum now! i got out of death by being co operative, you werent, atpg and the rest recognise that im useful to help against the mafia, so lynching another townie would be diabolical, especially as my role as the good sides summoner rydia hasnt been contest, so get your facts straight, im to young to die yet!
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 17:12
To be honest I don't think not allowing the dead to post is a good idea. Normally dead players are allowed to post but not vote, thus keeps them interested or else the ones that dies early would of totally forgotten about the game. That's what I'm feeling about Motep's game right now.
edit: shlin, can the dead post?
The dead can't post? :help:Didn't read that part of the rules...
I'll respond to Aries's points when I know I can post. Right now I am just going to say:
When have not been co-operative? Its just that I find that I have been lynched with no questions whatsover asked at me a bit unfair...
The dead can't post? :help:Didn't read that part of the rules...
I'll respond to Aries's points when I know I can post. Right now I am just going to say:
When have not been co-operative? Its just that I find that I have been lynched with no questions whatsover asked at me a bit unfair...
atpg said you were suspicous or something like that and i just went with the minority not knowing who 2 vote 4 anyway, so mayb u should ask him
although the dead cant vote rule doe seem silly, but still it means i can discount your last post:tongue2:
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 18:11
Private reveals are not allowed.
Abstaining from vote is not allowed.
Quoting pms, from me or anyone else, is not allowed.
The dead can not post.
The dead can not post.
The dead can not post.
yh we figured...
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 18:17
Just making sure. I think the rule started that the dead can post but may not vote, then Chiatox changed it I think.
Anyway the night phase should of ended already.
Just making sure. I think the rule started that the dead can post but may not vote, then Chiatox changed it I think.
Anyway the night phase should of ended already.
yh im not sure its been 24 hours yet, but we cant really vote while its night phase, and choatix is probably still at school so we cant push a phase change out of him while hes in a double maths lesson...
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 18:23
Umm why should it have ended Quintus? Its only been 16 hours. Or is it because you sent in your kill orders?
Umm why should it have ended Quintus? Its only been 16 hours. Or is it because you sent in your kill orders?
lol
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 18:32
Umm why should it have ended Quintus? Its only been 16 hours. Or is it because you sent in your kill orders?
It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not know that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect that I sent the kill orders. But on the contrary, I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that in no way with any amount of uncertainty that I undeniably know when the night phase should of ended. So the answers to your question is that....
:dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:
It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not know that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect that I sent the kill orders. But on the contrary, I'm possibly more or less not definitely rejecting the idea that in no way with any amount of uncertainty that I undeniably know when the night phase should of ended. So the answers to your question is that....
:dizzy2: :dizzy2: :dizzy2:
update this isnt the nerds of the round table, you must b stuck in a nerd frame set we cant understand
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 18:39
update this isnt the nerds of the round table, you must b stuck in a nerd frame set we cant understand
You can't do this to me! I do or do not know whether the night shouldn't have probably not ended, if that indeed was the correct time when the night should of ended. Even if the time-frame wasn't at where I knew where it should be....
You can't do this to me! I do or do not know whether the night shouldn't have probably not ended, if that indeed was the correct time when the night should of ended. Even if the time-frame wasn't at where I knew where it should be....
chill, gettin tense are we? only said get outta of the nerd lol, or wateva u were sayin cause i didnt understand, dont worry, i dont hate you enough to want to outcast you yet lol
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 18:56
Dal momento che trovo difficile esprimermi in inglese, mi riformulare in un'altra lingua.
Non sarebbe inesatto presupposto che non ho potuto non sapere esattamente che è o non è quasi parzialmente errata che ho inviato il uccidere ordini. Ma, al contrario, sono forse più o meno non definitivamente respingendo l'idea che in nessun modo con qualsiasi importo di incertezza che innegabilmente sapere quando la notte di fase dovrebbe finita. Quindi, tutto in tutti, non ho idea di quando la notte fase dovrebbe fine. :clown:
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 19:17
You realize not posting in English unless in the Frontroom is an offense? :tongue2:
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 19:30
You realize not posting in English unless in the Frontroom is an offense? :tongue2:
It is? :oops:
FactionHeir
09-04-2008, 19:35
Used to be anyway :grin2:
You can redeem yourself by becoming my knave (http://world6.knightfight.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=122134020) :yes:
Quintus.JC
09-04-2008, 19:46
You can redeem yourself by becoming my knave (http://world6.knightfight.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=122134020) :yes:
I don't like the sound of that.... :book:
El Diablo
09-05-2008, 00:41
Shin is gone?
He has little to no suspicion and so we lynch him?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigght. That makes sence. I appolgise for my lack of attendance yesterday as I has "issues" with work (grrrrr work).
However I have previously stated that I think ATPG is leading and blindly at that. Others had more possibilty guilt attached and yet to "protect the possible mafia" we "lynch the probably town"?
If QJC hasn't put in the death order for me I am bandwaggoning ATPG and/or QJC.*
Something is not right.
I call it HoS - (Hand of suspicion as all the fingers are pointing that way)...
(*Got this in so if I snuff it I don't break the rules for deadposting)
Askthepizzaguy
09-05-2008, 01:13
Wow. A LOT has happened since I went to work.
Dang!
I apparently upset a number of people with calling for a shlin lynch. I'll respond to everyone here as best I can:
Ah but you see, its the points 6 and 7 on your list that's worrying me. Why shlin over WH, especially as WH seemed quite a bit scummier as I pointed out?
While there is some suspicion on you (because using the spotlight on yourself seems very unmafia-like, but was nevertheless employed previously), I am more concerned about the others that just jump on the wagon whenever you call it.
@Factionheir:
Well at least you understand my motivations a bit better now.
And you're right, people did more or less jump on the wagon, and I can see how it would be disconcerting. I wanted to coordinate town's strategy as best I could with the limited information I have, and an investigation on Aries coupled with a lynch does not help us. That's a wasted investigation
Why not WH? ... I don't know. In retrospect, it would have been a better choice. I just wanted to give WH a chance to defend himself. I thought Shlin was still online, I guess I wasn't paying attention. He had been contributing I wanted to see how he would react, like Aries did. And since night isn't over yet, we can't confirm that Aries is even innocent yet.
I wish I could do everything at once, but I can't.
Hmm... I'll ask you guys (especially FH) to remember that I've started my last year of High School 3 days ago. I'm going to be busy, and if I lurk, then it won't be my fault.
I've been much less active here than in Starship Exodus (5 posts here, 17 over there; I wouldn't say I lurked there), because there's too much discussion going on. I should have guessed that would happen with ATPG here, but 10 pages for barely 2 nights... TOO MUCH!
Anyhoo, everyone was voting me after 10H35 my time (GMT+2). Folks, I gotta be at the school (which is 20 minutes away from where I live) at 8 am. This means I should wake up 'round 6h45 and to have 8 hours of sleep, I should be in bed at around 10h30.
Guys, when I was being voted for, I was logging out. Checking my PMs, LotR and WotB busied me right before that. I didn't have time even to contest!
So, can someone tell me why I'm under suspicion, other than the fact I've been lurking?
And I've been going through the last couple of pages... I've got one thing to say:
@Warmaster Horus:
I thought something like this was the reason you weren't here. But now that you are back, I agree with FactionHeir's suspicion of you. You're on my most likely list.
Would you please reveal your ability to us? Thank you, sir!
:bow:
Re: The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia
Now I am really angry, first I am not allowed into the cool club, and now I get bandwagonned when NOBODY even tried to ask me anything? In the first game where I tried to actively help the town, I get lynched just because you 'think' I am guilty. If you, oh I don't know, ASKED me something, and then lynch me, I will be fine. But no, let's lynch him when there is no evidence. (I know its partly my mistake that I did not post that I will be offline, but still...)
In any case, you could have forced me and someone into a tie, thus giving me sometime to reply (if there is an extension period as usual). Just going off and lynching me shows that you want to kill me desperately, a desperate gamble because you found out my role perhaps?
and to ATPG:
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1. Aries claimed to have an ability which could have taken out at least one townie should we have lynched him. I wanted to find out if that was accurate or not.
I can agree with that...yet you didn't even ask me to reveal. (You didn't even reveal yourself, it seems you are just forcing everyone but you and your oh so special group to reveal)
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2. Aries ability, if town, would be a great asset for town. One more spike for the mafioso to impale himself on.
Same as above, and the mafia would not be dumb enough to attack Aries now that he has revealed.
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3. Aries responded and cooperated with the investigation to my satisfaction.
He has been, let's say, very uncooperative before that, and now you trust him (frankly, I think that the transformation from "NO, I'll never reveal my role." to "Oh alright then..." a bit too quick for my taste...). But me, who has been helping since the beginning, is offed...
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4. FactionHeir is usually fairly useful to town, and although you'd make the perfect mafioso, you'd be more valuable to us alive (for now). Especially if I were to die... FactionHeir could easily take over the investigation where I left off. I trust he'd be able to find the killer or at least root them out.
Wow, how would you know FactionHeir can carry out the investigation later? You cannot know his role at all, unless you yourself is a detective, which I doubt. Even worse, I don't think you can organise a town group without mentioning a single teeny tiny bit of what you can do, I mean, if you say you found someone innocent to anyone at all, thats breaking the rules. So is if you tell them you protect him etc etc...
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5. El Diablo was not here to suffer under the intense scrutiny of the investigation, so pressuring him wouldn't reveal anything. But he's still a top suspect.
I wasn't here either.
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6. Warmaster Horus wasn't here either. But, he's next on the list in my book.
I wasn't here either.
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7. I haven't found Shlin particularly useful to town's investigation. We could afford to lose him.
I havn't been useful? I have been posting and trying to find the mafia from the beginning...
If you had bothered to question me at all, I would have happily revealed... but now I can't, so I'll just say you made a big mistake. A BIG MISTAKE (Emphasis on the BIG).
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I hope this helps you understand my motivations. One more night and I'll be ready to present my case to town. Deal with me however you like then. Town cannot die today or tomorrow, you have plenty of time left due to the fact that there appears to be no vigilante, or at least the vigilante might have died, or they are saving the vigilante kill until it's a safe shot.
Frankly, WH and the others are far more suspicous and lynchable, did they help the town like I did? Nope, nada.
and finally... WHY is Aries kept alive? His role is worthless now that he has revealed, as no sane mafia would attack him... so you point about how he is oh so important is not so important after all; amd I would doubt that the host would put in the ability to kill the person who voted him, as that just seems so... serial killer-like, such as the role in Taorimina (or something like that...) who kills everyone who voted for someone.
Phew, rant over . I'm just angry that I didn't get to reveal, get into the townie group and see the town win.
Yes, I don't think the town is going to win, the town is led by a crazy lunatic () who everyone else follows blindly (make your own points! Don't just follow someone...), and that is not the direction this game should go in
and here is my super duper conspiracy theory:
ATPG has publicly announced that there is a townie grand plan in the works. If he really is town, he would try to keep it hidden, and thus, when the mafia least expects it, he springs it on them.
But no, he announced publicly, knowing full well that the mafia would be expecting this super duper plan of his, and thus possibly leading to the potential failure of da plan.
Thus, I propose to you, the honest travellers of this strange ship, that ATPG is pretending to be town and is thus the bravest mafia player I have met and the only one who had pulled off this gamble.
I believe that ATPG is scum Please make your mind up yourself, and let me watch this amazing show.
(Yes I know my ideas are a bit 'far-out', but I'm just suggesting it to you guys...)
@ Shlin:
Big apologies, buddy, if you are indeed innocent. I think Chaotix himself confirmed that you are.
Bottom line is, I wanted to try to get you to react to a sudden death bandwagon, and you weren't there, then the bandwagon succeeded, and you turned out to be innocent.
I am sorry. There is something good in this, we have fewer suspects left, and that narrows down my options as to who is guilty or not.
And before you guys get all antsy in the pantsy, I understand full well that mafia would be similarly excited that there are fewer townies left. So before you all cry "Eureka", I urge you to calm yourselves down, and give me the one extra day that I asked for before you lynch me. I'm closer to cracking this thing than ever before.
If you listen to me, town loses nothing no matter which affiliation I am. I swear I am townie, and important to town. Which means keeping me around is good.
If I were mafia, I volunteered to be lynched before it's too late for town, so how exactly would that be a good move for me? I must be the dumbest scumbag ever if that is the case. I'm asking you to reason it out with me.
If you want, I'll even commit suicide so you don't have to waste a lynch. All I have to do is stop posting, and voting, and Chaotix will take care of me, and you'll never have to hear from me again.
Allow me to repeat, in case you're not getting the gist of what I am saying:
I AM NOT MAFIA, AND I'LL VOLUNTEER TO DIE TO PROVE IT. JUST GIVE ME ONE MORE DAY IS ALL I ASK.
:laugh2: Did that get through to any of you?
Askthepizzaguy
09-05-2008, 01:16
However I have previously stated that I think ATPG is leading and blindly at that.
Good sir, if I weren't leading BLINDLY I'd be cheating, or a very ballsy (and stupid) scumbag.
Yes, I am leading blindly, thats the nature of this game. However, there is a strategem in place that will work if you give me my extra day to let it work. Two days would be even better, but I can see some people are getting restless.
:no:
The Murder:
Here, listen to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV4eyMXFR84) while you're reading. Maybe it'll set the mood.
After a solemn dinner with the surviving nine heroes, Cecil was the only one who did not go back to his room. Overwhelmed with grief at the death of his beloved, he was unsure what he would do now. Zemus would pay for this... all of it. The deaths of so many innocents... the King of Baron... Tellah the Sage, and his daughter, Anna... all the people killed by the Giant of Babil. And now Rosa. Zemus had turned them all against each other. No one trusted those who had been close friends, and it had gotten to a point where the most innocent of all of them was killed. Cecil was sure Zemus' mindslave would strike now. But at who, he could not say for sure. He picked one of his friends, and decided to guard his door while he slept, in the hopes that the dark one would strike there tonight. He would end this madness, and proceed onwards with the rest of the group to the moon, where they would destroy Zemus completely.
Cecil stood in the darkness outside his charge's door for what seemed like hours, wide awake and ready to take on the servant of Zemus. Finally, out of the darkness, a voice spoke: "Oh, look at you, Cecil. Quite the vigilant one, aren't you?"
"You're finally here. Show yourself! I will not permit you to kill the one inside this room!" was Cecil's reply.
A voice, this time from the other direction, uttered a nasty laugh, and then spoke: "Oh, but you must be mistaken, Cecil. We didn't come here for him. We came here for you!"
Cecil barely had time to react before a huge shard of ice was launched in his direction. he just managed to soften the blow with his shield, then he surged forward with his blade. "Oh, too bad, you missed," sounded the voice from behind him. Cecil felt the sharp shock of pain as he was slashed in the back by an unknown blade.
He spun and slashed, his sword colliding with the assailant's weapon. The two engaged in a duel, neither being able to touch the other, until another attack came from behind. Cecil felt himself burning from the inside out as the magic lightning pierced him from behind.
"Damn it," he gasped, "there's two of them. How can I beat them?"
Unlike the ice and lightning, Cecil could easily see the fireball shooting towards him in the darkness. He dodged, and as the flames passed, they lit up the face of the other assassin. Shock came over Cecil's face.
"No... not you..." he sputtered.
"Yes," the figure replied, impaling Cecil with his weapon. "Me."
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The others woke up to find Cecil dead. Who would lead them now? How would they manage to defeat Zemus without the hero of the prophecies?
Dead:
Elite Ferret- Murdered
shlin28- Lynched
Tiberius of the Drake
Still Alive:
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
FactionHeir
Caius- Survived one Lynch
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
Askthepizzaguy
glyphz
Let Day 3 Begin.
Askthepizzaguy
09-05-2008, 02:38
Well, town, I have good news and bad news:
I have to do my role reveal before it is officially too late. And with the death of one of my defenders, I only have one shield left before I perish as well.
I am Cid, and my ability is Analyze
My role is (obviously) the investigator. I can reveal both the alignment and the abilities of my targets.
Here's what I have uncovered so far:
Quintus is in fact totally innocent. He has extra lives, just as he said.
Aries is in fact totally innocent. He does in fact have the defensive abilties he said, and so much more.
Elite Ferret was in fact totally innocent. He was one of my defenders, but I did not get to investigate him so I don't know for truth what his other abilities may have been.
I am for truth, totally innocent as well. And like I said, now that I've revealed, you may lynch me. However, I'd love it if the mafioso (there are TWO of them) attempt to kill me themselves.
Shlin was innocent, just as Chaotix said.
Tiberius of the Drake was innocent, else there would not be two saboteurs. Unless Zemus is creating new ones.
I do not know the identity of my other defender, but it doesn't matter. I just need a couple more days and this game is over. Now, you can either choose to believe me or you cannot. I've done my duty. As long as my other defender is still alive, I feel confident in my revelation.
Quintus was telling the truth, especially about his extra life ability. It's going to be difficult to kill him for the mafia, so I advise town not to lynch him. He is a guaranteed delay for mafia to kill the rest of you.
There is no vigilante, so far as I can tell, or else they have been wasting their kill.
I urge town to suspect only those who remain who are on this list, for I am certain (unless Chaotix has been misleading) that the two mafioso are here:
Suspect:
FactionHeir
Caius
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
glyphz
Innocent:
Aries777777, with defensive abilities
Quintus.JC, with extra lives
ATPG, with investigator abilities.
_______________________________
Finally, I have to say to town: I am still deliberately misleading mafia somehow. But trust where I am pointing you, and you will succeed.
You have a 2/5 chance of randomly choosing a bad guy, and you have 3 extra lives, an anti-murder townie, and an investigator with a still-alive defender. Good hunting!
__________________
Final note:
I AM the investigator. If anyone else claims to be so, you've got yourself a big fat liar. Double lynch us both to be on the safe side. I, and my already investigated/cleared allies, will all make sure the liar dies with me.
FoS: Glyphz and Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
09-05-2008, 03:45
Shlin was innocent, just as Chaotix said. :wall:
WHEN - prey tell - did you figure this out?
Can your claims be backed up?
Askthepizzaguy
09-05-2008, 05:39
He's innocent because Chaotix said so in the murder scene post.
Guess you weren't paying attention... :laugh2:
Can my claims be backed up? Sure. When the game is over and I am allowed to, I can quote all the PMs. Until then I am bound by the rules and no, I have no proof.
Does ANYONE dispute my claim to be the investigator, and if so, shall we die together?
Okayyyy... The write-up did unearth a few clues... Good thing Chaotix27 stuck w/ the long write-up...
1)2 of them. From the beginning, it seems.
2)Magic users, both of them
3)Cecil knew them. Meaning likely 'hero, playable' crew in the game. which would liekly mean 8 of 11 roles laid out. I'm not sure about Cid, but he's investigator if noone contests). But we can scratch few out. More proof that Fusoya, and Golbez ain't the saboteur (My sincerest apologies, Quintus)
From these, I'm looking at Palom & Porom the twins as the saboteurS.
Rydia is a black mage/summoner, but if she was found innocent by the 'detective', she's out. I'm not sure if anyone else can use black (elemental) magic, as I haven't played the game, only did a background check.
However, this does not pinpoint who exactly is who.
If I'm correct, now could be a good time to do a mass public reveal, a proper one. I'd do it right now, but
a) if the mass reveal does not happen properly, those who do reveal are left out in the open. The saboteurs can plan out their victims
b) fake role PMs, that the dead, cannot contest.
c) I'm wrong about the saboteurs being Palom and Porom, among other assumptions. Mass public reveals would then be a bad idea
Fusoya, Rydia, Cid (if no one contests ATPG): I believe ain't the saboteurs
So is Edge (Caius), he's a ninja, magic ain't his forte.
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy (only if lying)
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
I'm not there because I'm... and my role ability is... ~:shock:(If any of you FoS me just because of this line, I'll...
laugh at you. You've been warned :mellow:. )
Besides If I place myself on my own suspect list that would be plain awkward
:edit2: FOr both mafia to gang on Elite Ferret... If anyone, alive, knows Elite Ferret's abilities as Cecil, do you mind telling us?
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 12:02
Cecil was a doctor type character. He prevents anything from happening to his protectee. Kills and other things.
Quintus seems to be innocent because he didn't do anything last night.
Askthepizzaguy
09-05-2008, 14:39
Suspect:
FactionHeir
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
glyphz
Less suspect:
Caius: Ninja, Glyphz' reasoning... :yes:
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Dare I suggest that Glyphz still seems guilty to me? But then again I have been really good at picking nothing but townies so far. None of that means anything. It's 50/50 random blind shot if Glyphz is guilty.
Once again, we need to coordinate town's strategy. I do believe that the final 5 suspects need to do a role reveal, including you Glyphz. I still should be able to investigate freely for now, but we're going to lynch my final protector at some point and also there will be murders.
I have to wonder who I should investigate this turn. With two mafia, a 2 versus 2 ending is a mafia victory. Town lynches one (best case), remaining murderer takes out a townie, then the other in the violent end.
2 mafia, 3 town, best case, leads to 1 mafia, 2 town.... and then, it's a very difficult final pick, with a 33% chance of winning.
_______________________
We have 3 confirmed town, 1 suspected town, (Caius), and 4 suspected mafioso.
This turn, one of these 4 should die, leaving 3.
One of our confirmed townies will die tonight, (worst case), leaving 2 confirmed town, 1 suspected town, and 3 suspected mafioso.
One of those suspected mafioso will die that night, (hopefully) leaving 2 confirmed town, 1 suspected town, and 2 suspected mafioso.
This gives us the 2 mafia, 3 town ending, and we have our 3 suspected townies. Then we just have to lynch one, and then the other, and hope to gosh almighty that Caius is a good guy.
Does town want to take that gamble? This is a numbers game. Odds are, if we play this strategy, we win. But if Caius is the other saboteur, then we are screwed.
Odds are also against us in that everyone appears to have powerful special abilities, and it is not a clear shot. However, the reason I felt confident in my reveal, is because I still have at least one investigation before my other helper dies, which will give me one more confirmed townie.
Quintus acts like 3 confirmed townies with his extra lives, 4 if you count his final life. And Aries' anti-murder abilities help us as well. So the numbers appear to be in our favor, BUT!
WE NEED TO KNOW EVERYONE ELSE'S ABILITIES!!!
Guys, if you have the ability to protect me, you need to come forward now. The mafia will likely take you out tonight, but it doesn't matter. I need to know that you are a confirmed innocent so that I do not waste my investigation!!!
And every single unconfirmed townie needs to tell the truth about their ability... lying at this point will not help us!
Cecil was a doctor type character. He prevents anything from happening to his protectee. Kills and other things.
Quintus seems to be innocent because he didn't do anything last night.
That would explain...
the narration, why Cecil was,
outside his charge's door for what seemed like hours, wide awake and ready to take on the servant of Zemus.
and perhaps why,
Elite Ferret was in fact totally innocent. He was one of my defenders, but I did not get to investigate him so I don't know for truth what his other abilities may have been.
So either the saboteurs know about Cecil (why you're still not in the clear for me, FH:inquisitive:), or just got lucky.
If that's all there is to Cecil's ability (no percentage to kill attacker), perhaps the saboteurs are playing it safe.
I did not expect a double hit in this game. (then again, everyone had an ability)~:handball:
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 17:11
So now we worked out the list of suspects:
FactionHeir
El Diablo
Warmaster Horus
glyphz
Public reveal might be a good option right now, although there are of course people discontent with that and if all 4 decide against it then that option fails. Well, no matter what I'll live long enough to see the end... for now though:
Vote: Factionheir
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 17:33
I'd rather not reveal more than I have in my previous few posts to allow some tactical maneuvering. What I have said should be sufficient in proving my innocence.
I suggest that we lynch WH as decided this turn and the remaining protector protect ATPG. ATPG should then investigate glyphz while I work my magic on El Diablo.
[edit]
Looking back at ATPG's reveal, something that strikes me is that no new information is given in it. While no one else is claiming Cid (and he could just be Cid), I am rather puzzled why he investigated QJC and Aries who already revealed. In a way, it may tie him with Aries. So either ATPG is playing with us or he wasted a few investigations.
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 17:38
Unvote: FactionHeir
I don't really have any preference, any 4 of the suspects would do. Its all a matter of convincing.
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 18:31
Well, from what I remember of FFIV, saying who I am is a bad move (that said, I played FFIV around 8 years ago, so my memory of it is probably completely wrong...)
But, as a leap of faith, I am Kain. My ability is to not die if targeted during day or night, once during the game.
I'll wait a bit more before voting.
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 18:52
Considering Quintus doesn't have any other specials other than 3 lives, and you only have 1. What is your other ability WH?
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 18:56
That's it. I've only got one.
I can "jump" out of sight once during the game, which makes me invulnerable during the next day/night phase.
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 18:57
I dunno, but this doesn't make much sense to me that QJC and Caius' roles would both be more powerful than yours in the same way and you don't have any other ability.
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 19:01
Just checked Wikipedia (veeery quickly). If I got it right, Kain was wounded during the game's story because of his link to Zemus, no? Might be a reason.
Why would I lie (other than the fact that I would be mafia)? If you're not happy with my answer, then ask Chaotix after the game.
I dunno, but this doesn't make much sense to me that QJC and Caius' roles would both be more powerful than yours in the same way and you don't have any other ability.
Wait. Are we sure Caius' ability can survive multiple attacks? I don't remember him revealing, publicly at least. All I know about him is that on the Rnd 1 write-up, he's Edge and he survived the lynch.
If WH is indeed Kain, I can see his ability reflects Kain's specialty as a Dragoon, Jump.
WH - claims to be Kain
FH - so far not eager to reveal
El Diablo - awaiting to login
Cecil - EF
Kain - claimed by WH
Rosa - shlin28
Rydia - Aries7s
Edge - Caius
Yang - Left out
Edward -
Cid - ATPG
Palom -
Porom -
FuSoYa - Quintus.JC
Golbez -
Unknown - (T. Drake, glyphz, FH, El Diablo)
Yours truly - claims not to be Palom or Porom (that should give you guys an idea.)
I awaits 1 more reveal, but will reveal at a certain hour if no one responds (can someone tell
me when is the deadline, this time?)
:edit: But...
I bet, if I'm correct about the twins, T. Drake is one of the 2 'unknown' guys... w/c means
FoS: FH and El Diablo
I don't think there's a need to wait for 1 of them to reveal.
That said, my reveal coming right up
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 19:22
So tell us your name glyphz, if you are claiming not to be of the twins.
vote: Faction heir
a reveal would likely change my mind
I am Golbez, the Dark Knight.
My role: Vigilante.
Alignment: Pro-town
Ability: Ability to attempt to kill someone, hoping it's the one under Zemus' control. (25% chance of getting killed)
Past targets: No one.
Call me passive or incompetent, but the reasons I have not done anything:
Rnd 1
a) decided not to use my vigilante role, when no one has yet to be killed
c) picked Caius, at the very start, his lynch result made me cancel that order.
c) prepared to test this out on Quintus but,chose to let the town decide his fate
Rnd 2
a) w/ only a WOG, no clues on the write-up, decided against picking a random target
*small mafia game, only 11 players, not killing, until certain, would maximize town's chances.
Rnd 3
a) w/ Cecil's death, and write-up clues, I plan to target one of the assumed twins. (I'll entertain any disagreements)
So... what say you?
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 19:42
I didn't realize FH hadn't revealed yet. :inquisitive:
Do it. Now. :whip:
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 19:43
Satisfactory.
I am Edward.
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 19:44
And? Abilities, or such?
If you've said it already, sorry...
And? Abilities, or such?
If you've said it already, sorry...
no he hasnt, we were expecting...more should i say, not wanting to reveal infomation is suspicious in itself
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 19:50
Nice try Aries, but I did give a glimpse of my abilities in the information I posted. The rest will be found out by the culprit tonight.
Nice try Aries, but I did give a glimpse of my abilities in the information I posted. The rest will be found out by the culprit tonight.
ummm...no i genuinely dont no what your going on about but if you've already given a 'glimpse' then it wouldnt be hard to give another, vote stands
If no one is lying about their roles, that leaves El Diablo, who has yet to login, as one of the twins.
I find it hard to believe, that Tiberius, who was WoG-ed easily, could be the other twin.
I'll have to stick w/ my gut for now, thus
Vote: El Diablo
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 20:41
Of course its entirely possible that not both the twins are affected and that either WH or Aries is the other Zemus zombie.
I would imagine if both Caius and QJC are town (QJC for sure at least), then the mafia must also have some extra lives to compete. WH's claim would thus make him a perfect mafioso with one extra life.
I'm still thinking though.
Of course its entirely possible that not both the twins are affected and that either WH or Aries is the other Zemus zombie.
I would imagine if both Caius and QJC are town (QJC for sure at least), then the mafia must also have some extra lives to compete. WH's claim would thus make him a perfect mafioso with one extra life.
I'm still thinking though.
(dam i knew my twc username would come bk and haunt me)
my innocence has been confirmed, which is more than can be said for you, i have revealed my whole role without hesitation and frame me? very well, probably on the basis that i voted for you? how narrow minded...
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 21:15
I suggest that we lynch WH as decided this turn and the remaining protector protect ATPG. ATPG should then investigate glyphz while I work my magic on El Diablo.
Here's my idea; we lynch someone tonight other than glyphz and Factionheir. glyphz claims to be the vigilante, while Factionheir claims to be able to 'work his magic' on someone. I say after the lynch we let glyphz to try to kill factionheir, and we let factionheir to try to stop him from doing so. By than only 3 of the original suspects would be left, and the outcome would be...
-Imagine we lynch El Diablo tonight. Tommorrow Factionheir and glyphz face off, the remaining protector protects askThepizzguy while he investigates Warmaster Horus. If Horus is found guilty we lynch horus, if horus is innocent then we lynch either Factionheir or glyphz, depending on the circumstances
-or imagine we lynch Warmaster Horus tonight, El Diablo will be investigated next round while glyphz and Factionheir still have a stand off.
-whoever is found guilty by askthepizzaguy will be lynched, if found innocent then that further narrows the suspects to only FactionHeir and glyphz, by then the noose would of be too tight for the mafia to wriggle out.
so that only leaves one dilema, who should we lynch tonight, Warmaster Horus or El Diablo?
I will made my choice when I heard El Diablo's side of story.
Looking back at ATPG's reveal, something that strikes me is that no new information is given in it. While no one else is claiming Cid (and he could just be Cid), I am rather puzzled why he investigated QJC and Aries who already revealed. In a way, it may tie him with Aries. So either ATPG is playing with us or he wasted a few investigations.
I don't think anyone believed me and Aries at that stage, everyone was chucking roten vegatables and shouting abuses at me, I publicly (and Askthepizzaguy too) asked for an investigation to prove my innocence. While I did reveal but no-one believed me, so I wouldn't say that the investigations were wasted.
Edit: FoS Factionheir
Here's my idea; we lynch someone tonight other than glyphz and Factionheir. glyphz claims to be the vigilante, while Factionheir claims to be able to 'work his magic' on someone. I say after the lynch we let glyphz to try to kill factionheir, and we let factionheir to try to stop him from doing so. By than only 3 of the original suspects would be left, and the outcome would be...
-Imagine we lynch El Diablo tonight. Tommorrow Factionheir and glyphz face off, the remaining protector protects askThepizzguy while he investigates Warmaster Horus. If Horus is found guilty we lynch horus, if horus is innocent then we lynch either Factionheir or glyphz, depending on the circumstances
-or imagine we lynch Warmaster Horus tonight, El Diablo will be investigated next round while glyphz and Factionheir still have a stand off.
-whoever is found guilty by askthepizzaguy will be lynched, if found innocent then that further narrows the suspects to only FactionHeir and glyphz, by then the noose would of be too tight for the mafia to wriggle out.
so that only leaves one dilema, who should we lynch tonight, Warmaster Horus or El Diablo?
I will made my choice when I heard El Diablo's side of story.
I don't think anyone believed me and Aries at that stage, everyone was chucking roten vegatables and shouting abuses at me, I publicly (and Askthepizzaguy too) asked for an investigation to prove my innocence. While I did reveal but no-one believed me, so I wouldn't say that the investigations were wasted.
Edit: FoS Factionheir
vote stands
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 21:21
vote: WH
For now, because ED hasn't had a chance to reply yet. Will change depending.
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 21:23
QJC: your logic only works if Caius isn't a Zemus zombie. Otherwise the town loses.
And as far as I can tell we don't have another protector.
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 21:27
QJC: your logic only works if Caius isn't a Zemus zombie. Otherwise the town loses.
And as far as I can tell we don't have another protector.
What's your magical ability?
And regarding Caius, yes, now thinking about it does seem a little bit worrying...
Hey everyone. I apologize again, but I may have to delay the end of this phase by an hour or two, as I have school events that I must attend to. While it would have been 9:00 PM EST (I think that's 2:00 AM GMT) it may be pushed back by an hour or so. I may be able to make it on time, however. I apologize again for the inconvenience.
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 21:48
Okay, here's the plan
3 confirmed inncents
Askthepizzaguy
Quintus.JC
Aries
Sort of cleared
Caius
Suspects
Factionheir
glyphz
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
We lynch one person from the suspects group tonight, that leaves us with
3 confirmed innocent
1 Caius
3 suspects
Next night I imagine the mafia will go after Askthepizzguy
If we have any protector of the sort he will fail, but I doubt we do, so that leaves us with
2 confirmed innocent
1 Caius
3 suspects...
Crap, that plan would not work.
We need a better plan then mine...
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 21:49
Hey everyone. I apologize again, but I may have to delay the end of this phase by an hour or two, as I have school events that I must attend to. While it would have been 9:00 PM EST (I think that's 2:00 AM GMT) it may be pushed back by an hour or so. I may be able to make it on time, however. I apologize again for the inconvenience.
Where do you live? Not that I'm unhappy about this but if you don't mind me asking.
Where do you live? Not that I'm unhappy about this but if you don't mind me asking.
isnt it the west coast of america? or am i getting mixed up with atpg or merlox?
[edit]
Looking back at ATPG's reveal, something that strikes me is that no new information is given in it. While no one else is claiming Cid (and he could just be Cid), I am rather puzzled why he investigated QJC and Aries who already revealed. In a way, it may tie him with Aries. So either ATPG is playing with us or he wasted a few investigations.
He investigated Quintus on the first round because he was very suspicious of him, but didn't want to waste a lynch if his claimed powers were true, so he investigated him instead. On night 2 Aries was mine and ATPG's top suspect but we agreed to give him a chance to see if he was telling the truth, because ATPG was impressed with his defence. The bandwagon on Shlin was my fault, ATPG would have just have happily gone with WH I think but I suspected Shlin more so we lynched him, sorry Shlin :embarassed:
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 22:04
I think we best lynch either WH or ED and then have ATPG investigate glyphz while glyphz takes care of either WH or ED depending who survives. If both survive, I'll check out whoever glyphz isn't hitting or check on Caius.
I think we best lynch either WH or ED and then have ATPG investigate glyphz while glyphz takes care of either WH or ED depending who survives. If both survive, I'll check out whoever glyphz isn't hitting or check on Caius.
other than you i'd say caius tbh, i think glyphz may b innocent, or at least thats the impression i get
caius isnt on enough really leaving his case very unexplained even when he is online, but tht kinda ruins plans...i hope atpg uses his investiagate ability wisely....
btw vote still stands :tongue2:
anyway how many hav voted, i dont think many hav, best b gettin a move on i think...
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 22:29
well there's a vote each on me, WH and ED.
Oh, and I don't like how Caius is posting in the Gameroom but ignoring us here. Maybe we should lynch him again?
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 22:35
I'll take that cue; vote:Caius.
Quintus.JC
09-05-2008, 22:36
Vote: El Diablo
FoS: Factionheir
Challenge: the mafia
come and fight me you coward
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 22:44
Eh QJC, you have to be French to say that. (M2TW terms that is)
Warmaster Horus
09-05-2008, 22:48
You know you play too much M2:
- when you know which expressions go with which factions...
Anyway, back to your feature presentation...
I wonder what Caius is doing? Why isn't he talking/voting?
You know you play too much M2:
- when you know which expressions go with which factions...
Anyway, back to your feature presentation...
I wonder what Caius is doing? Why isn't he talking/voting?
but i knew tht 2 :book:
lols
i like the mongol one to
'was it your brother i killed, you all look the same to me'
and theres always the
'bother me not, im busy torturing captives'
no, caius is just not on here at all, because he not playing the ultrawar game i made tht he signed up 4 either...:furious3:
FactionHeir
09-05-2008, 23:02
He is, he posted in the Gameroom just 2 hours ago.
He is, he posted in the Gameroom just 2 hours ago.
grumble*
We may have to give Caius time to catch up, I believe his last post was during shlin28's lynch,when he voted for himself... p-AGES ago.
we definitely await more insight
Eh QJC, you have to be French to say that. (M2TW terms that is)
FH? Making a joke? This is unheard of! :clown:
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 00:45
I frankly don't believe a word glyphz says about being the vigilante. However, if he is telling the truth, he should private message me and declare who he is going to vigilante kill tonight.
If tomorrow, that person is not dead, LYNCH HIM!
If Caius does not post or vote, Chaotix should WOG him. Leaves fewer suspects, I suppose.
El Diablo, WH, and Factionheir all look suspicious to me. I am so confused.
And by the way, English say that "come and fight me you coward" line as well. Maybe it's their naval vessels or something, but they definitely do.
FactionHeir
09-06-2008, 00:53
Nah, its their captains, but it doesn't sound as funny and memorable. Caius is active in the backroom right now.
What do you think of my night action proposal btw?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:12
Glyphz can confirm himself innocent, unless his role reveal was a serious BLUNDER for either town or mafia, whichever his alignment is.
I don't HAVE to investigate Glyphz. He can simply target one of the remaining suspects and vigilante kill him. It will appear in a different write up from the murder post, thereby confirming his innocence.
I can investigate someone else, while the murderer attempts to kill me. :laugh2:
I need one of the remaining suspects to volunteer to be vigilanted.
Tally:
2 votes:
El Diablo (glyphz, Q.JC)
1 vote:
FactionHeir (A7)
Warmaster Horus (FH)
Caius (WH)
Today's lynch takes precedence to anything else, there's 40minutes left (not including delays according to )
Hey everyone. I apologize again, but I may have to delay the end of this phase by an hour or two, as I have school events that I must attend to. While it would have been 9:00 PM EST (I think that's 2:00 AM GMT) it may be pushed back by an hour or so. I may be able to make it on time, however. I apologize again for the inconvenience.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:26
Glyphz can lynch whomever he wants, if he's the vigilante. But I've privately (and now publicly) requested he target Warmaster Horus for the vigilante killing, and someone else will be lynched tonight.
If WH doesn't die, then Glyphz will be confirmed "bad townie" at the very least, and "guilty" at the very most.
This should take care of who we have to lynch tomorrow, Caius, or FactionHeir. I'm leaning ED today.
FoS: Glyphz and El Diablo
Vote: El Diablo
Running tally:
3 votes:
El Diablo (glyphz, Q.JC, ATPG)
1 vote:
FactionHeir (A7)
Warmaster Horus (FH)
Caius (WH)
____________________
im agreeing that caius should either be wog'd or lynched
it would b different if he couldnt get on but hes online right now, andfh said he was in the gameroom not long ago
*lurker*
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:39
Caius better not post or vote. If he does it means he has been online all this time and has been intentionally lurking.
If he does post, we need to kill him tomorrow. If not, Chaotix should WOG him for inactivity.
El Diablo
09-06-2008, 01:40
Woah talk about logging in on time.
I aint scum and that is for certain.
Vote FH
Hey he always trips my mafia sence.
He has not revealed properly and I can handle being lynched next round if I am wrong...
ED
Caius better not post or vote. If he does it means he has been online all this time and has been intentionally lurking.
If he does post, we need to kill him tomorrow. If not, Chaotix should WOG him for inactivity.
he posted notlong ago in the spirit mafia game so hes definately been on, must b a lurker, unless he really is tied up 4 time, tht i doubt though
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:43
Woah talk about logging in on time. I aint scum and that is for certain. Vote FH
Hey he always trips my mafia sence. He has not revealed properly and I can handle being lynched next round if I am wrong...
SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM.
FactionHeir is known for being a kick-arse townie. Lurking, posting late before the bell to avoid a WOG, and targeting factionheir for basically no reason.
However, this doesn't clear factionheir in my mind. ED might know he's about to die and is trying to convince town FH is innocent.
Vote remains on El Diablo.
______________________________________
3 votes:
El Diablo (glyphz, Q.JC, ATPG)
2 vote:
FactionHeir (A7, ED)
1 vote:
Warmaster Horus (FH)
Caius (WH)
El Diablo
09-06-2008, 01:47
I did not want to reveal as I was Palom (and now super suspicious) however Tiberius was my twin and we could protect or vigilante kill once per night. However I was made redundant due to Tiberius getting wogged and our ability required the both of us to able to target.
I tried to protect FH on night one but Tiberius never got his order in and then his head exploded.
May have been a good thing as I am not convinced to FH's innocence.
Since losing my partner I have been attempting to get old fashioned investigation to sort it.
Thus I am expendable but I am also not scum. So lynch away if you want another Shin on your hands...
Otherwise change your vote to FH and finish this.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:51
Nice try, El Diablo. But there's no way you're getting away with this.
EDIT:
Glyphz has apparently gone along with the plan. So... time will tell whether he is guilty or not.
If he's innocent, uh, mafia is going to target him instead of me... hehehehe which means I get another investigation! Bwahaha!
Nice try, El Diablo. But there's no way you're getting away with this.
ummm....perhaps we could be this hasty after the lynch, in the case hes right....
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 01:58
I think that it's entirely possible that you and Factionheir are both mafia, so changing my vote won't matter too much in such a case.
However, your story seems believable.
Unvote: El Diablo
Vote: FactionHeir
Sorry, FH... but maybe there is some truth in what he's saying.
3 votes:
FactionHeir (A7, ED, ATPG)
2 votes:
El Diablo (glyphz, Q.JC,)
1 vote:
Warmaster Horus (FH)
Caius (WH)
Nice try, El Diablo. But there's no way you're getting away with this.
EDIT:
Glyphz has apparently gone along with the plan. So... time will tell whether he is guilty or not.
If he's innocent, uh, mafia is going to target him instead of me... hehehehe which means I get another investigation! Bwahaha!
you kept saying you can all lynch me just give me one more day lol, if glyphz is innocent thts not a great attitude but it very much looks ike the town has an advantage (i hope)
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 02:07
you kept saying you can all lynch me just give me one more day lol, if glyphz is innocent thts not a great attitude but it very much looks ike the town has an advantage (i hope)
I suppose it's a HUGE long shot that I'm a big fat liar. If so, I TRULY deserve the prize for largest cojones EVER.
However, Aries you and I both know I know your special ability, as per Chaotix's allowing me to reveal things publicly. QJC and I both know he is innocent, because I investigated him too.
That means unless you and QJC both declare me to be a liar, I am a defacto proven innocent player. Also none have questioned that I am Cid, and none have come forward as the investigator besides me. And if they did, you could double lynch us both for having at least ONE confirmed Liar.
Honestly, if I were mafia, doing what I am doing is utter idiocy. PS Mafia will try to kill me tonight, so, uh... tootles?
I'm gonna give Caius a half hour to vote, and if he doesn't, I'll have to WoG him. I pm'ed him to let him know, too. Either way, Day 3 will end in a half hour.
Also, I forget who asked, but I live in New York. I sense the tension building up... this could be fun...
If he's innocent, uh, mafia is going to target him instead of me... hehehehe which means I get another investigation! Bwahaha!
I'd pie you in the face for that line
...but I guess this will do
:tomato: (semi-auto, not too shabby)
:jester:
I suppose it's a HUGE long shot that I'm a big fat liar. If so, I TRULY deserve the prize for largest cojones EVER.
However, Aries you and I both know I know your special ability, as per Chaotix's allowing me to reveal things publicly. QJC and I both know he is innocent, because I investigated him too.
That means unless you and QJC both declare me to be a liar, I am a defacto proven innocent player. Also none have questioned that I am Cid, and none have come forward as the investigator besides me. And if they did, you could double lynch us both for having at least ONE confirmed Liar.
Honestly, if I were mafia, doing what I am doing is utter idiocy. PS Mafia will try to kill me tonight, so, uh... tootles?
lol i wasnt making an accusation, but i just thought you could of chosen your words better, it really doesnt matter
p.s im forcing my self to stay awake to see the result, but i may need sleep lol, i feel a finale coming....
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 02:14
I repeat, as my final wish as your beloved (and despised) town leader (voted myself into office with no opposing votes):
If Glyphz does not attempt to kill Warmaster Horus tonight, try or fail, he is GUILTY.
If Caius posts or votes, he's an intentional lurker and you know what to do about that as well.
If Glyphz succeeds in killing WH tonight, he's not only confirmed innocent but you are missing another suspect.
If Glyphz dies tonight, mafia killed him. Meaning I am still alive, and I will reveal the results of my next investigation... whom shall I investigate... hmmm I WONDER!
I will not investigate Caius, as he is about to be WOG'ed or lynched tomorrow for being a lurker.
I will not investigate Glyphz because he is cooperating with the "prove youre not lying" plan.
I will not investigate FactionHeir because he is about to be lynched.
I will have to investigate El Diablo or Warmaster Horus. Which do I choose, oh how ever shall I pick?
I repeat, as my final wish as your beloved (and despised) town leader (voted myself into office with no opposing votes):
If Glyphz does not attempt to kill Warmaster Horus tonight, try or fail, he is GUILTY.
If Caius posts or votes, he's an intentional lurker and you know what to do about that as well.
If Glyphz succeeds in killing WH tonight, he's not only confirmed innocent but you are missing another suspect.
If Glyphz dies tonight, mafia killed him. Meaning I am still alive, and I will reveal the results of my next investigation... whom shall I investigate... hmmm I WONDER!
I will not investigate Caius, as he is about to be WOG'ed or lynched tomorrow for being a lurker.
I will not investigate Glyphz because he is cooperating with the "prove youre not lying" plan.
I will not investigate FactionHeir because he is about to be lynched.
I will have to investigate El Diablo or Warmaster Horus. Which do I choose, oh how ever shall I pick?
l diablo, as its highly unlikely wh is mafia in this aswell, he was mafia in the starship exodus to
edit: ive monitored WH behavior in starship exodus, similiar to this game, hes worth an investigate, i dunno lol
yes i like to confuse people
hav 2 go, eagerly await what happens tommorow
im going to miss all the action....sob...
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 02:18
Technically the odds are exactly the same.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 02:19
Sorry for the double post!
To prevent a last minute double lynch, we need to have someone change their vote to FactionHeir. Caius could arrive and thwart everything with an El Diablo vote.
WoG- Caius. Sorry, but I warned you.
Voting's now closed, I'm making the write-up.
Voting Results:
FactionHeir- 3 (Aries, El D., ATPG)
El Diablo- 2 (glyphz, Q.JC)
Warmaster Horus- 1 (FH)
Caius- 1 (WH)
The Lynch:
The heroes, now reduced to only 7, carried out the lynch voting in the same way as the previous day. After the votes were cast, they were read by Golbez, who had taken over as leader after the death of his brother, Cecil. Edge had collapsed just before he cast his vote. He was unconscious, and it looked like he would not come out of this coma anytime soon. And so the one with the most votes after the end was Edward, who had become known as a "Spoony Bard".
Edward, after hearing of his fate, was despondent. It seemed he had accepted his fate. Golbez broke the silence. "Do you have any last words, Edward?"
"Yes," responded Edward, "this idea was a huge mistake in the first place. First Rosa, now me... all I wanted to do was help Cecil rid the world of evil. Now even he's gone... but still I was hoping I could assist the rest of you... for my Anna. But now it appears I will be joining her very soon. If you don't want me anymore... if you're really going to go through with this... just make it quick. I want to be with the people who love and appreciate me... Cecil, Rosa, and most of, Anna."
"Very well, then," replied Golbez. "One of you who has voted for him, step up and follow through with your vote."
None of the six moved. Nobody would dare to try to kill another friend. Rydia had done it and suffered terribly... no one else wanted to feel the remorse.
At last, Cid stepped forward. "I'll do it. I voted for you. I know you're under Zemus' control, you're just trying to make yourself look innocent now!"
"If you want to kill me, then do it! I'm getting impatient just waiting here for my death. All this time I've looked the least brave of all of us, but now those of you who voted for me have shown the cowardice inside you! I do not fear death any more, but all of you are too scared to finish what you set out to do! Kill me, or else be known as a coward!
"You would call me a coward, you spoony bard? It will be my pleasure to end your life, then!" Cid shouted, his temper rising quickly.
Cid lifted the huge steel hammer he used to build his airships. Whirling it around his head once, he charged, screaming, at Edward. The hammer swung. It collided with Edward's face, smashing it in and spattering mixed blood and brains all over Cid. Edward's beautiful face had been disfigured beyond all recognition, and the life was gone from his body. He lay on the floor in a bloody heap.
Night 3 has begun. It will end slightly early, at EST 7:00 PM (GMT 12:00 AM, I believe).
Dead:
FactionHeir- Lynched
Caius- Will of Zemus
Elite Ferret- Murdered
shlin28- Lynched
Tiberius of the Drake- Will of Zemus
Still Alive:
Askthepizzaguy
glyphz
Aries777777
Quintus.JC
El Diablo
Warmaster Horus
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 03:25
Truly awesome! :grin:
I hope my death has at least as much entertainment value. I think my losing streak of picking only townies is finally over... too bad I won't live to see another day.
Why would El Diablo vote for FactionHeir? Seems pretty clean to me. Therefore:
FoS: WARMASTER HORUS!!!
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 03:47
16:48....
You know you play too much M2:
- when you know which expressions go with which factions...
Anyway, back to your feature presentation...
I wonder what Caius is doing? Why isn't he talking/voting?
I wonder why Warmaster Horus didn't even stick around to see what Caius was doing?
His last activity of the evening. After posing this question, he quietly left.
Last Activity: Today 16:55
Busted!
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 03:53
well there's a vote each on me, WH and ED.
Oh, and I don't like how Caius is posting in the Gameroom but ignoring us here. Maybe we should lynch him again?
I'll take that cue; vote:Caius.
No argument from FactionHeir's bestest buddy in the whole wide world, it seems.
FH says it's Caius... (it's not), and immediately, Warmaster Horus follows suit.
Another nail in the coffin...
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 03:55
Satisfactory.
I am Edward.
Time: 13:43
And? Abilities, or such?
If you've said it already, sorry...
Time: 13:44
Sounds like a very coordinated conversation between good buddies here, to get suspicion off of each other. Go back and re-read it. Nail number three...
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 04:22
I'd rather not reveal more than I have in my previous few posts to allow some tactical maneuvering. What I have said should be sufficient in proving my innocence.
I suggest that we lynch WH as decided this turn and the remaining protector protect ATPG. ATPG should then investigate glyphz while I work my magic on El Diablo.
[edit]
Looking back at ATPG's reveal, something that strikes me is that no new information is given in it. While no one else is claiming Cid (and he could just be Cid), I am rather puzzled why he investigated QJC and Aries who already revealed. In a way, it may tie him with Aries. So either ATPG is playing with us or he wasted a few investigations.
Very interesting, casting doubt on the most undoubtable townie.
Well, from what I remember of FFIV, saying who I am is a bad move (that said, I played FFIV around 8 years ago, so my memory of it is probably completely wrong...)
But, as a leap of faith, I am Kain. My ability is to not die if targeted during day or night, once during the game.
I'll wait a bit more before voting.
Hmm... he knows his character is suspicious. He is probably telling the truth about his ability, it fits a murderous scumbag. Disappearing into the night for protection, but only once.
That's it. I've only got one.
I can "jump" out of sight once during the game, which makes me invulnerable during the next day/night phase.
Is not your other ability the one where you kill me?
Your ability is the perfect one to thwart a town lynch with. Surrender now?
Just checked Wikipedia (veeery quickly). If I got it right, Kain was wounded during the game's story because of his link to Zemus, no? Might be a reason.
Why would I lie (other than the fact that I would be mafia)? If you're not happy with my answer, then ask Chaotix after the game.
Stating that he might be mafia, another tactic of the desperate mafioso.
I didn't realize FH hadn't revealed yet. :inquisitive:
Do it. Now. :whip:
Right. FactionHeir is supposed to fear you because...?
Come and kill me, Warmaster Horus. My death is only the omen which brings forth your own demise!
If I might make another song for my beloved fellow townie, Warmaster Horus:
Mafia Scum
To the tune of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"
New lyrics by Askthepizzaguy
What's it saying?
It's saying scummy scummy, scummy scummy, scummy scummy, scummy scummy, scummy scummy, scummy scummy,
(SCUM SCUM!)
Scum Scum!
scummy scummy...
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum.
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum.
Scummy Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Oh you pretty Scummy Scum Scum,
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
We love you.
And, in
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
What we'll do.
Near, far, in our MAFIA, Oh what a happy time we'll spend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Oh you pretty Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
We lynch you.
And, in
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
What we'll do.
Near, far, in MAFIA
Oh what a happy time we'll spend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
You’re stealthy as a scumbag.
Your murders wont go unpunished.
we’ll rip off your head today.
If you survive of course
We’ll just hang you again tomorrow.
The envy of FactionHeir, because you’re still around!
Oh Scummy You Scummy
Pretty Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
We’ll lynch you.
And Scummy, in Scummy
Pretty Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum what we'll do.
Near Scummy, far Scummy, in our MAFIA Oh what a happy time we'll spend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
Scum Scum Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our fine mafia scum friend.
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Scummy Scummy Scum Scum
Our Warmaster Horus, yes, Scummy Scummy friend.
Gosh I hope I am right or this could get really embarrassing.
vote: WH Because he hasn't posted anything of value.
30 minutes later...
Sorry guys, school came back up. Plus a miriad of other small things.
I'll keep playing this game, but don't expect much contribution.
Sorry!
An alibi for not contributing to town's discussion.
Vote: Caius
Do I need to explain?
Oh, you have LOTS of explaining to do... :grin:
Meh.
unvote: Aries, vote: WH
Keeps voting for his buddy Warmaster Horus, to alleviate suspicion both on him and his friend, in case one of them dies.
WH was mafia in the other game and lurked just as much.
He builds such a profound case. I think we should listen to him!
There was nothing scummy about shlin. FoS everyone that voted him.
Stating the obvious, just in case anyone wasn't paying attention. It's how mafioso contribute to the game.
ATPG:
My thinking is that you directed the town to lynch shlin without any good reason other than saying "he and WH are highest on my suspect list" and everyone else blinding running after you. That alone should be sufficient reason to FoS, as there was no discussion as to why he was guilty or at the top of your suspects list. Add to that, he was behaving as he normally does as townie and helping the town in general.
My reasons for WH were quite clear. He lurked, hardly posting anything. In the other mafia game he did exactly the same and was guilty. That is a good reason to suggest that it is the same here, especially as he was online when people voted him but didn't respond at all.
One has to wonder if you aren't the mafioso yourself and just using the spotlight to direct attention away from you really.
Restates everything any innocent person might agree with, and points finger at me.
Ah but you see, its the points 6 and 7 on your list that's worrying me. Why shlin over WH, especially as WH seemed quite a bit scummier as I pointed out?
While there is some suspicion on you (because using the spotlight on yourself seems very unmafia-like, but was nevertheless employed previously), I am more concerned about the others that just jump on the wagon whenever you call it.
Points finger at Warmaster Horus once again. He must REALLY want Horus to die. Shall we oblige?
Hmm... I'll ask you guys (especially FH) to remember that I've started my last year of High School 3 days ago. I'm going to be busy, and if I lurk, then it won't be my fault.
I've been much less active here than in Starship Exodus (5 posts here, 17 over there; I wouldn't say I lurked there), because there's too much discussion going on. I should have guessed that would happen with ATPG here, but 10 pages for barely 2 nights... TOO MUCH!
Anyhoo, everyone was voting me after 10H35 my time (GMT+2). Folks, I gotta be at the school (which is 20 minutes away from where I live) at 8 am. This means I should wake up 'round 6h45 and to have 8 hours of sleep, I should be in bed at around 10h30.
Guys, when I was being voted for, I was logging out. Checking my PMs, LotR and WotB busied me right before that. I didn't have time even to contest!
So, can someone tell me why I'm under suspicion, other than the fact I've been lurking?
And I've been going through the last couple of pages... I've got one thing to say:
Asking somebody to reveal is almost like quoting PMs. The main difference is that one's got a nice little box around the text.
This entire post is one giant alibi for not being a loyal townie and posting more. Now look at good ole FactionHeir's response:
While quoting isn't allowed, revealing is. Quoting = copy/pasting a huge chunk from the role PM for instance. paraphrasing or using bits and pieces is not considered quoting.
That said, suspicion rests on your behavior as its identical to that in shlin's Starthip mafia where you were the mafioso. That is quite a plausible reason.
If you feel you do not have enough time to actively participate, Chaotix did say you can drop out and give the role to someone else. Otherwise it must be assumed that you prefer lurking.
This is FactionHeir playing his most difficult role; himself. And he did a brilliant job with that entirely fabricated back-and-forth.
______________________
At this point I refer you back to their other posts, as this is where it started getting really suspicious for me. Reading the entire thread again, pay attention to these two, and tell me they aren't mafia. I rest my case. I don't even need to see El Diablo's investigation, nor hear about Glyphz' murdering of Warmaster Horus, if he did indeed succeed.
Good game, everyone! Not bad for my first attempt.
Or perhaps, somehow, I am mistaken?
Quintus.JC
09-06-2008, 09:26
We cannot be certain whether Factionheir was the mafia or not, none the less his action in the previous round was more than suspcious enough to get himself lynched.
What we should do now is let glyphz to go after Warmaster Horus and Askthepizzaguy to investigate El Diablo. Then we'll act depending on the results.
Edit: That was some awesome anaylsis you made there Askthepizzaguy. :beam:
Quintus.JC
09-06-2008, 09:44
Challenge: Mafia
It is said that you do not attack me... out of fear.
But seriously though. FuSoYa would like the mafia to attack FuSoYa, FuSoYa thinks that FuSoYa is the most powerful townie ever alive and FuSoYa likes hearing FuSoYa talking about FuSoYa.:sweatdrop:
FuSoYa is FoS You! You.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 10:26
We cannot be certain whether Factionheir was the mafia or not, none the less his action in the previous round was more than suspcious enough to get himself lynched.
And so the one with the most votes after the end was Edward, who had become known as a "Spoony Bard".
The Spoony Bard committed the murders, did he not? Or am I missing a clue.
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Spoony_Bard#The_Spoony_Bard
Also, when I was being "assaulted/attempted blocked" one night it was done by a certain "Spoony Bard", but I am not allowed to quote the thing for proof.
_______________________
Could my analysis be built upon a house of cards? If I am incorrect, town is still close to victory. However, too many things add up that point to FactionHeir and Warmaster Horus.
If I'm wrong, I will bow down graciously before Warmaster Horus and beg for forgiveness. I am almost certain the analysis is correct.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 11:03
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2008486#post2008486
What's it called when a mafioso hangs around and doesn't post?
Warmaster Horus
09-06-2008, 11:09
Wait for me to post, #$£& it!
I was making my answer to your long analysis, okay? Takes time. Sorry I don't type as fast as you, okay?
Warmaster Horus
09-06-2008, 11:11
Before I say anything, veery well done ATPG. I'll watch out for you in the next games you play.
ATPG, where do you live?
'Cos on my side of the planet, it was midnight (or close to) when I last posted. I had been up since 6h30. See why I logged out?
As for tackling your analysis, I won't do it. Why? Because it is made of practically every post I did, and a few from FH. And they are all viewed from the POV that I and FH are scum.
I applaud you for taking the time to do that. I couldn't do that myself, but the problem is that you keep repeating "scum, scum, scum" in my direction, and not offering much new stuff.
Seeing as you are anxious for me to answer you, I'll stop here, because I don't have anything to say, because anything I do say will be seen from the wrong side of the track.
And I was making this post before the 419 one. If you'd checked my profile, you'd have seen me on this thread.
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 11:13
Wait for me to post, #$£& it!
I was making my answer to your long analysis, okay? Takes time. Sorry I don't type as fast as you, okay?
My bad. I was just... intrigued that after returning from a long absence, WH would hang out playing the word game.
I'm sure you could see why it looks suspicious. Man, if I am wrong about all this I am going to be eating humble pie for weeks!
:bow:
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 11:20
Before I say anything, veery well done ATPG. I'll watch out for you in the next games you play.
ATPG, where do you live?
I live in florida, USA.
From what you're saying, I picked correctly, did I not?
Actually there was a strategy to my analysis. I personally knew that I had to look for a "spoony bard" due to a certain revelation... and after reviewing your voting patterns, I saw the common tactic of mafiosi voting each other, esp FH's voting of you.
Your alibi smelled rotten, but it also sounded accurate as well. Was I right, did you speak the truth of your abilities?
You did lurk, intentionally it seems. And almost everything you did agreed with FactionHeir, pretended to demand things from him, or interacted with him innocently. Just seemed out of place. All my reasons are in the posts.
So... I'm at a loss for words. Did we win?
Warmaster Horus
09-06-2008, 11:22
If FH was scum, then yes. I guess we'll only see in the morning.
I said the truth of my abilities. When I said that Kain was wounded, and that could be a reason, I meant that it could be a reason why I've only got one ability.
Edit: and by watching out for you, I mean you're obviously very dedicated as a mafia hunter (or a mafioso in disguise, but it would be very surprising here).
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 11:27
I was given the role of investigator, and by gawrsh darn it, that's precisely what I needed to do.
Anticipation~
:sweatdrop:
Is it morning yet?
Quintus.JC
09-06-2008, 13:21
glyphz claims to be the vigilante, let him take on either El Diablo or Warmaster Horus while Askthepizza guy investigate the other one. I think thats what we should do tonight, it is the night-time phase right?
Askthepizzaguy
09-06-2008, 13:43
Thats the plan.
I investigated El Diablo, prediction: Negative.
Glyphz is supposed to destroy Warmaster Horus, but WH probably used his trick to avoid it, while murdering me.
If so, Glyphz will still be around to vigilante him tomorrow night, and town can lynch as well to be sure.
If WH dies and the game continues, it's glyphz. But in all seriousness, I believe WH was very telling with his "very well done" post. It's gotta be him, or I'm not a pizzaguy.
Warmaster Horus
09-06-2008, 14:40
What? I wasn't saying that you were right, only that your analysis was well done, even though it was wrong.
I'm not a mafioso. That's were you were wrong.
Quintus.JC
09-06-2008, 19:57
I can sense the Finale very soon.... :anticipating:
By the way I'll lay a fact in the mafia's face. I have been Lying all along, I don't have 3 extra lives, in fact I don't any special abilities, I only said that to avoid the mafia from attacking me and it has paid off. Now that the town is heading into the right direction I'll reveal this, I have been laughing at the mafia's face all along, does he really thinks that Chaotix would give somebody 3 extra lives, making him invincible and all that, come and kill me if you wish, but the truth is you've been fooled... big time.
I can sense the Finale very soon.... :anticipating:
By the way I'll lay a fact in the mafia's face. I have been Lying all along, I don't have 3 extra lives, in fact I don't any special abilities, I only said that to avoid the mafia from attacking me and it has paid off. Now that the town is heading into the right direction I'll reveal this, I have been laughing at the mafia's face all along, does he really thinks that Chaotix would give somebody 3 extra lives, making him invincible and all that, come and kill me if you wish, but the truth is you've been fooled... big time.
and atpg knew this....?:inquisitive:
great people probably think my abilities a farce aswell now
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2008, 00:45
Yes. I know the facts about both of your abilities. You both posted inaccurate information to make yourselves appear more dangerous.
:laugh2:
I kept your secret for as long as it mattered.
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2008, 00:47
What? I wasn't saying that you were right, only that your analysis was well done, even though it was wrong.
I'm not a mafioso. That's were you were wrong.
Very soon, I will be eating my victory feast... or, I will find it eaten by rats, and be forced to eat the only remaining slice of humble pie.
I still think you're lying just to add to the suspense WH... but if I am wrong, I'm very good at convincing myself of things.
:laugh4:
The Killing:
Here's some battle music (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3T8AmEMxqs).
After the lynch, Cid returned to his room. Realizing that Edward was innocent after he killed him had deeply sobered him. He was in a grumpy mood, and as such, he decided to go to sleep. Soon, his loud snoring filled the halls of the Lunar Whale, even though Cid's door was closed.
When the door to Cid's room opened, however, Cid kept on sleeping. He would be completely vulnerable should someone decide to kill him. It was not meant to be that Cid die in his sleep, painlessly, however. Such a death would be too good for him, in Zemus' opinion. Zemus had already broken the spirits of the heroes. Now he would make them pay for ever challenging him in the first place.
"Get up!" Cid heard, after a sharp blow to the head woke him up. "What the hell... it's you! Are you the one here to kill me?" was Cid's response.
"Yes, of course," the figure replied. "But it's no fun if you're just lying there asleep. Fight me! I have to make you suffer, then it'll be fun."
"Grr... I'll crush you, whelp!" Cid hopped out of bed with a vigor unusual for a man of his age. He hefted his hammer, and readied himself for a fight.
"Aww, you didn't think it would be that easy, did you? No, I think we'll have to even things out a bit. Blind!"
As soon as the words were said, Cid's eyes went dark. Crying out in rage, he began to swing his hammer about wildy, hoping to hit his adversary. The assailant's laughs rang out from all over the room, each time giving Cid a direction to swing in, but he was simply to slow to hit him. "Tornado!" A huge gust of wind threw Cid against one of the walls of his room. Now dizzy as well as blind, it would seem he had no hope.
The assassin's voice sounded, in a different place each time a new sentence began: "You're really boring me now... your swings aren't even close. I guess it's time for you to die, then. Hmm... how should I kill you? I could poison you and watch you die slowly... I could freeze you solid and then shatter you into a million pieces... or, I could cook you alive! That one sounds fun, I think that's what I'll do! Flare!
Cid felt his skin tingling as the temperature of the air around him rapidly rose. In a matter of seconds, the air was hotter than the furnaces that Baron's weapons were forged in. Cid started to scream in agony, but then after he breathed in, the burning air reached his lungs as well. With Cid's lungs burning, the only sound he could make was a low gurgling sound, as the last remaining bits of water in his body evaporated. His blood literally began to boil.
"Now I'll finish you... Burn in Hell!" A giant flame shot out at Cid, now unable to hear through his scorched ears. As soon as the flame hit Cid, his body was completely incinerated. "Heh.. looks like my job is done here... see ya!"
And with that, Zemus's servant left. All that was left in Cid's room was a smoking pile of ashes.
Dead:
Askthepizzaguy- Murdered
FactionHeir- Lynched
Caius- Will of Zemus
Elite Ferret- Murdered
shlin28- Lynched
Tiberius of the Drake- Will of Zemus
Still Alive:
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
Warmaster Horus
El Diablo
glyphz
Let Day 4 begin.
Very soon, I will be eating my victory feast... or, I will find it eaten by rats, and be forced to eat the only remaining slice of humble pie.
I still think you're lying just to add to the suspense WH... but if I am wrong, I'm very good at convincing myself of things.
:laugh4:
well my infomation wasnt that inaccurate, i only changed 50% chance of a kill when attacked to 66% not a massive leap lol
Askthepizzaguy
09-07-2008, 00:52
Ugh... this pie doesn't taste very good at all... :no:
:wall:
ouch! a painful death, good write up choatix
I have been informed, that WH has evaded my blade.
He ain't lying about his ability.
It's too bad, the attempt ain't in the narration.
It still makes me look suspicious...
I have been informed, that WH has evaded my blade.
He ain't lying about his ability.
It's too bad, the attempt ain't in the narration.
It still makes me look suspicious...
glyphz we all look suspicious
me and quintus have had are false abilities exposed, you and wh are also suspicious for obvious reasons, this is looking quite...crooked shall we say
seireikhaan
09-07-2008, 02:20
Wow....
A mini game has over 400 posts. :sweatdrop:
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 09:18
Okay, so my last ditch attempt to take the hit for Askthepizzaguy was unsucessful.
I have been informed, that WH has evaded my blade.
He ain't lying about his ability.
It's too bad, the attempt ain't in the narration.
It still makes me look suspicious...
You've been informed, I suppose PM quoting is out of the question?
The town's winning prospect has just taken a big hit. So me and Aries both lied about our powers, but we are innocent and Askthepizzaguy knew that. I probably shouldn't have revealed about that, now I might die next. :wall:
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 09:49
I have been informed, that WH has evaded my blade.
He ain't lying about his ability.
It's too bad, the attempt ain't in the narration.
It still makes me look suspicious...
Okay, it does make you look suspcious...
Assuming that you and Warmaster Horus are the mafia, it would make sense. You claimed to be the vigilante but never killed anyone, I'm not claiming you're a bad vigilante because random killings are just silly, but there is absulotly no prove that you are the vigilante. Until there is prove that you did tried to killing Warmaster Horus last night but of you are in suspcion.
But on the other hand it looked like we caught one of the mafia in Factionheir, none the less you're still suspcious, so is Horus and El Diablo.
Warmaster Horus
09-07-2008, 10:33
QJC, unless Chaotix decides to add a part where Glyphz attempts to kill me in the write-up (or where someone tries to kill someone else), we can't know for sure. I didn't even receive a PM after using my ability.
About that, I think it might make me suspicious when it was more or less obvious that I was going to be targeted, but look at the people alive: 5. If I'd died, we'd be 4, and if there are still 2 mafiosi, the town would have lost.
QJC, unless Chaotix decides to add a part where Glyphz attempts to kill me in the write-up (or where someone tries to kill someone else), we can't know for sure. I didn't even receive a PM after using my ability.
About that, I think it might make me suspicious when it was more or less obvious that I was going to be targeted, but look at the people alive: 5. If I'd died, we'd be 4, and if there are still 2 mafiosi, the town would have lost.
confused, i hope el diablo can shead some light on this, i think as he is one of the evil twins, it would likely be him, along with maybe one of you two...
vote:el diablo
also choose to believe if you dont i understand, but my ability is very much still there, i only lied about the percentage of chance for me killing someone who attacks me, just 50% instead of 66% not that it really matters
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 12:03
I can afford to wait for a while, hear everyone speak in their defences.
I can afford to wait for a while, hear everyone speak in their defences.
not many are turning up...
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 19:30
QJC, unless Chaotix decides to add a part where Glyphz attempts to kill me in the write-up (or where someone tries to kill someone else), we can't know for sure. I didn't even receive a PM after using my ability.
Okay, the least I know is that Horus isn't with glyphz. That would give us one more round if got this one wrong.
Vote: El Diablo
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 19:32
not many are turning up...
The dead aren't allowed to come out of their graves, and the livings are comparable to zombies. El Diablo is on the other side of the world (from us Europeans). Oh well.
Warmaster Horus
09-07-2008, 19:41
Tally:
El Diablo: 2 (Aries, QJC)
Not sure where to put my vote yet.
Let's see...
The write-up of Cecil's death mentions 2 guys, and yet the last 2 rounds only 1 guy was killed.
I'm hoping there is only 1, and Cecil's was (refering to other games) a ticket to do a double-hit.
Now, if ATPG investigated Quintus and Aries, and he found them both innocent (i really hope you are)
That leaves me, WH and ED.
WH ability is still activated, I believe.
So that leaves El Diablo (I am not voting myself) ...who has yet to post this day.
Unless you guys propose a tie vote, I'll Vote: El Diablo
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 20:07
Let's see...
The write-up of Cecil's death mentions 2 guys, and yet the last 2 rounds only 1 guy was killed.
I'm hoping there is only 1, and Cecil's was (refering to other games) a ticket to do a double-hit.
I seriously hope it's not you and Horus. If it's only one of you then it's fine, if it's both then the town is lost, after all the good work and sacrafices... :embarassed:
I seriously hope it's not you and Horus. If it's only one of you then it's fine, if it's both then the town is lost, after all the good work and sacrafices... :embarassed:
i no, i feel the same, my only case against glyphz would be that you set this whole im attacking wh up, but i hoping this is genuine....
my first mafia game and by the lucks of it, ive been prvilaged enough to play one the best:beam:
El Diablo
09-07-2008, 20:50
Sorry just got back to work now.
I know why I survived the night, as I had to reveal the other night I am half of a broken ability and thus not much of worth to kill by the mafia.
I have been rereading over the pages and hunting for clues and I think it is either WH and/or Glyphz.
But even then I am relying on ATPG word for QJC (who I am not 100% about either).
As for Aries..
Why you would lie about the percentage chance you have of killing?
...and then admit it? EXPLAIN :whip:
The way I see it Gylphz said he would kill WH and "failed" was it a failed town attempt or a failed mafia attempt on a fellow mafia? Seems a bit silly that mafia can survive hits like that (although others have multilife abilities).
The thing is there was no writre up. Thus it probably didn't happen... miss or otherwise.
It doesn't make sence....
Thus I think the lynch target is pretty straightforward - despite the numbers on me :no:
vote glyphz
This thread seems lonely without ATPG in it, no? I am posting to tell you all that there are most definitely hints in my last write-up, if you haven't figured that out already...
I think I got the clue... but I can't say :wall:
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 21:19
QJC, unless Chaotix decides to add a part where Glyphz attempts to kill me in the write-up (or where someone tries to kill someone else), we can't know for sure. I didn't even receive a PM after using my ability.
That would mean that it could be possible that one of them is the mafia, but not both, or else Horus would of annouced that he had been attacked even though he hasn't. Horus's post hinted that he isn't connected to glyphz. I thought to let glyphz live through to the next round because of his claimed vigilante ability, but I guess I can't really trust it to work to my plan.
I'll tie the vote for Horus to decide.
Unvote: El Diablo
Vote: glyphz
Warmaster Horus
09-07-2008, 21:28
So, tally is...
ED: 2 (glyphz, Aries)
glyphz: 2 (QJC, ED)
Well... I don't know.
I'll vote:glyphz. He claims vigilante, which is perfect cover for a mafioso. And at this point, vigilante doesn't really help.
If I'm wrong, then I'm really sorry. That said, if FH was scum, then we've still got a turn to determine the mafiosi, right?
Tally:
ED: 2 (glyphz, Aries)
glyphz: 3 (QJC, ED, WH)
definitely hints in my last write-up
What the hell... it's you!
"Grr... I'll crush you, whelp!"
Blind, tornado, flare
The assassin's voice sounded, in a different place each time a new sentence began :huh2:
Are there any other possible hints?
Let's discuss:gossip:
Quintus.JC
09-07-2008, 21:46
So, tally is...
ED: 2 (glyphz, Aries)
glyphz: 2 (QJC, ED)
Well... I don't know.
I'll vote:glyphz. He claims vigilante, which is perfect cover for a mafioso. And at this point, vigilante doesn't really help.
If I'm wrong, then I'm really sorry. That said, if FH was scum, then we've still got a turn to determine the mafiosi, right?
My suspcion over glyphz is that there is no prove of him being the vigilante, because he had not done any kills. Not that I approve blind killings but yes, claiming to be the vigilante would be the perfect cover for the mafia.
So you claim that I killed EF and then ATPG, when I was 'supposed' to target WH.
Well, it does look like things are stacked against me.
More so, if Golbez can use ice, blizzard, and flare magic (IDK, can one of you confirm this?)
The only thing I can defend myself with is:
There will be 1, or possibly 2 saboteurs, 1 vigilante, and the rest are 'town'.
Warmaster Horus
09-07-2008, 21:56
How does that help? We don't have proof of your actions. Maybe we lynched the vigilante...
As for Aries..
Why you would lie about the percentage chance you have of killing?
...and then admit it? EXPLAIN :whip:
i did this to increase my defense, to lessen the chance of an attempted kill on me
i felt it was my duty as a townie to rmain alive, even if it meant telling a white lie, so i could root out the mafia
however it seems atpg did that job superbly
regardless your explaination was detailed, ill keep my vote on you lest others change there minds, but it looks like you've avoided a lynch
im not a massive final fantasy fan so im not great with the clues, but the murderwas quite informal, not likely one of the most sophistcated of whats left of us...
You are all open to your suspicions... and if you thinnk I'm the best lynch this round, so be it. As much as I would like to disagree.
I does not help to find out that with the exception of Kain (WH)... Palom, Rydia, Fusoya, and even Golbez ("knows several high-level Black spells, including Meteor") can use Black Magic. (source gamefaqs, FF wiki)
it's pretty much 24 hrs., I guess I'm out.~:handball:
I really believe, and still do, that avoiding random vigilante hits, would increase the town's chances (rather than hoping to get lucky)
That said, I hope you guys get the saboteur, next round...
Voting has ended now. Sorry for being kinda late. I'll do the write-up now.
Voting Results:
glyphz- 3 (QJC, El D, WH)
El Diablo- 2 (Aries, glyphz)
The Lynching:
Some epic battle music. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7J5QwzonU0)
Now there were only five heroes left. Kain, Palom, FuSoYa, Rydia, and Golbez. For Zemus' servant to be powerful enough to take down Cecil and Cid, it had to be Golbez. This is what the other four reasoned. Or perhaps that was what Zemus' true servants convinced the other two of. Regardless of what the story was, Golbez was confronted by the other four heroes.
Golbez spoke, startled. "What is going on? Why are your weapons unsheathed?"
Kain answered him. "We know it's you. All this time, you had us convinced that you had regained control of your own mind. All this time, you've been lying to us. Now, I will make you pay for all the pain you've caused!"
Kain launched himself at Golbez. With a giant leap, he thrust his spear at Golbez, who drew his blade and parried the blow. "It's odd for you to speak of me this way. If I'm not mistaken, you were under Zemus' control as well!"
Golbez and Kain exchanged blows, although neither was able to hit the other. Golbez was slowly but surely gaining the upper hand. "That's it. I'm not going to lose to you, Kain. It must have been you all this time, not me!" Golbez channeled the dark energy Zemus had left behind in his body into his sword. The sword glowed with an evil aura. Then he swung the blade, knocking Kain's spear out of his hand. He slashed again, this time tearing through the armor at Kain's chest. Kain fell to the floor, gasping in pain.
Now FuSoYa rushed over to Kain and started to heal his wound, and Palom started launching magical attacks at Golbez. "Thundaga! Blizzaga! Firaga!" Golbez dodged the first two attacks, but the fireball caught him on the shoulder. A familiar dark energy rushed through him along with the searing heat. "No! He's controlling you, too?!" Golbez started retaliating with black magic of his own.
FuSoYa, seeing that Palom was in trouble, launched a magical attacking of his own. "This will defeat you, fiend! Holy!" A beam of light shot towards Golbez. This is my chance, he thought. "Reflect!" A magical shield appeared aroung Golbez. When the beam hit the shield, it split into two, one half aimed at Kain, and the other at Palom. Both of them screamed. But it was not their voices that were heard, but a deep, evil voice. The voice of Zemus.
FuSoYa realized that he had been wrong all along. But it was too late now. Rydia had been concentrating intensely for several minutes. She had not heard anything around her. When the familiar green light shone around her, she began the summoning rite: "White Dragon, guardian of the village of Mist, I call upon your strength!"
The whole room was instantly filled with an unnatural white mist. No one warrior could see another. When the mist cleared, everyone was awestruck. Coiled in front of Rydia was an enormous, serpentine, white dragon. Rydia's voice was clearly heard. "Destroy him. The dark knight is the cause of all our misery." The dragon turned its head towards Golbez, and opened its mouth. The dragon roared as a huge ray of light shot from its mouth. The light broke through Golbez's barrier and seared through his armor. The death cry of Golbez pierced the room. When the dragon closed its mouth, there was nothing left where the dark knight had been standing. Mist filled the room again, and when it cleared, the dragon had dissappeared.
Part II:
[Zemus's battle theme music. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD7x0ZHAqkw)]
"I thank for doing my work for me, Rydia." The words came out of Palom's mouth, but the voice was much too deep to be his. "Golbez was a loyal servant, but I lost control over him after this one-" -Palom pointed to FuSoYa- "broke my spell."
"In fact, I think I'll get rid of him now." It was the same voice, but this time it came from Kain. Kain then proceeded to plunge his spear deep into FuSoYa's chest, so deep that it protruded out the other side. FuSoYa's Lunarian blood, dark and straight from his heart, poured out of his body. As Kain drew his spear from the old man's body, the life was already fading from his eyes.
"And now, my lady, you are next!" came Zemus's voice from Palom. As both of them started to walk towards Rydia, she let out a scream. But there was no one left to come to her rescue...
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Back on Earth, one year later...
All life on the Blue Planet had been destroyed. Zemus, now in full control of the Lunarian race, brought them all to live there, and repopulate the planet. Kain and Palom remained firmly in his control, and they were his right hand men.
Zemus created a Black Dragon for Kain. Now known as the Dark Dragoon, he rode his dragon through the skies, spreading terror amongst those Lunarians who would challenge Zemus' authority.
Palom's age was magically accelerated by Zemus. Over the course of a year, he aged nearly 20 times that amount, becoming a fully grown Black Sage. He was the most powerful magician on the planet, and soon set out in search of other planets to raze and colonize.
Zemus brought prosperity to the Lunarian race. For the rest of eternity, he was viewed as the single greatest ruler of the Lunarians. This was because he never died, and continues to rule over them even now. But at what cost has this prosperity been given to the peaceful Lunarians?
Next post coming up.
VICTORY: MAFIA
Warmaster Horus and El Diablo are the winners. Congratulations to them!
Oh, and I suppose Tiberius wins, too.
I was actually not expecting mafia to win. If you had lynched one of them, as you previously intended to, then town would have surely won, with their three special abilities over the second mafia. Instead, because you did not lynch a mafia, that left two town and two mafia- that's an auto-mafia victory, regardless of your special abilities. WH and El D. definitely did a good job of deceiving you guys. Now, here's everyone's role, as well as a special theory of mine:
Role PMs:
Elite Ferret:
You are Cecil, the Dark Knight-turned-Paladin who is leading the group to fight Zemus.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Cover", based on the same ability from FFIV. For every Day/Night cycle, you can choose to guard one person from all harm. If they are indeed attacked, however, there is a 50% chance you will die protecting them. You will have to decide whether the risk is worth protecting that person. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
You also have an additional special ability, but I will elaborate on that when and if the time arises.
Warmaster Horus:
You are Kain, the commander of Baron's Dragoons. You have been controlled by Zemus before.
Now your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Jump", based on the same ability from FFIV. Once during the game, you may jump out of sight, rendering you completely invulnerable for a whole Day/Night cycle. You can only do this once during the game, however, so be careful with it. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
shlin28:
You are Rosa, a White Mage of Baron, and Cecil's love interest.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Pray", based on the same ability from FFIV. For every Day/Night cycle, you can pray for the survival of one other player, who will have a 50% chance of surviving a murder. You cannot pray for yourself, and the ability has no effect on lynchings. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
Aries777777:
You are Rydia, the sole surviving Summoner from the village of Mist.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Summon", based on the same ability from FFIV. If an attempt is made on your life, the Eidolons that you are known for summoning will protect you. Additionally, the Eidolon has a 50% chance of killing the murderer or will kill one of the players who voted for you if you are being lynched. This ability will only save you once, however. The ability is also passive, which means you don't have to pm or email me to use it.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
Caius:
You are Edge, the Prince of Eblan, who is also known as a Ninja.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Ninjutsu", based on the same ability from FFIV. Using your ninjutsu skills, you will always be able to avoid being lynched. You will not, however, have any protection from being murdered. This ability is passive, which means you don't have to pm or email me to use it.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
Yang:
You are Yang, the High Monk of Fabul and a skilled martial artist.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Focus", based on the same ability from FFIV. By focusing on your surroundings, you will always have a 50% chance to avoid being murdered. You will not, however, have any defense against lynching. This ability is passive, which means you don't have to pm or email me to use it.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
FactionHeir:
You are Edward, the Prince of Damcyan, who is considered to be a "Spoony Bard".
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Bardsong", based on the same ability from FFIV. By singing and playing your harp, you can distract one player and temporarily disable their special ability every Day/Night cycle. You may wind up disabling the saboteur, but you can also disable your friends, whose abilities might have otherwise been helpful, so be careful with it. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
Askthepizzaguy:
You are Cid, the aging Engineer who built all of Baron's airships.
Your alignment is light.
Your special ability is "Analyze", based on the same ability from FFIV. Once every Day/Night cycle, you may analyze one player and reveal their identity and their alignment. Convincing the other players that what you say is true, however, is your own problem- you cannot quote the pms I send you. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
Quintus.JC:
You are FuSoYa, the guardian of the Lunarians in their near-eternal slumber.
Your alignment is light.
Because of the strong Lunarian blood flowing in your veins, you have the ability to survive one attack on your person. You might think of it as an "extra life" for yourself.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
glyphz:
You are Golbez, the Dark Knight who plunged the whole Earth into chaos and despair under Zemus' control, but was returned to his senses by his own brother, the Paladin Cecil.
Your alignment is now light.
Your ability is "Dark Power". Although you have regained consciousness, the power of Darkness still resides within you. You are willing to use this power to defeat Zemus' servant. Every Night pase, you are able to assault one player and kill him, in the hopes that he was under Zemus' control. However, because you are no longer under Zemus' control, the Dark power within you may consume you. In fact, there is a 25% chance of you dying in an attempt to kill someone. Use this power, but use it carefully. In order to use the ability, you will have to pm or email me at Chaotix2732@yahoo.com.
Your objective is to root out and defeat the one being controlled by Zemus before he kills all of you.
El Diablo and Tiberius:
You, along with your twin ____, who is played by ____, are under the control of Zemus. Your objective is to kill everyone on board the Lunar Whale before they reach the moon.
In order to do this, you two will have to work together. You have the ability to kill one player every Night phase, but due to your small size, you will have to work together with your twin to do it. Thus, even with two of you, you can only kill one person per Night. If your twin is killed somehow, Zemus may imbue you with extra power so that you can continue to kill one player every turn.
Quintus's Gamble:
Okay, so many of you may be wondering what exactly Quintus was thinking when he decided to reveal himself like that. The game may not have played out this way, and he didn't tell me exactly what his plans were, but this is what I think he meant to happen.
Approximately half of what Quintus said in that post of his was true. This is the whole post:
"I am FuSoYa, the guardian of the Lunarians.......
I am revealing myself because surprisingly I have 3 extra lives, 'the strong Lunarian blood flowing in your veins' has made me somewhat into an invincible character. I'm still vulnerable to lynches but the mafia can forget about trying to murder me.
Unless anyone else claims to be FuSoYu then I think everyone can be positive certain that I am not lying."
Now, you might think that the second set of sentences is the most important. Rather, Quintus was relying on the mafia to notice his last sentence. In saying that everyone can be certain he's not lying, he is inviting people to think he is lying. Therefore, while he definitely is FuSoYa, Quintus wanted to make it look like he was lying about his special ability. But why would he lie and say the mafia couldn't kill him? He must have had a better special ability, one that would give town a huge advantage! Thus, the mafia goes after him, thinking they want to eliminate this special ability from the game. But what do they find? Quintus was telling the truth about his special ability, although he may have exaggerated it a bit- he only has 2 ‘lives'.
The trick that Quintus pulled really relies on the mafia's ability to infer that he might have a different ability. It was a huge gamble to begin with, but he made a mistake that cost him, too: he mentioned that he was vulnerable to lynching. If he had simply stated he was an invulnerable character, it might have worked better as the town wouldn't try to waste lynches on him too.
Yeah, that's right, WH was originally town. I gave him the turncoat after Tiberius was WoG'ed to even things out.
Anyone can post now (that means you, dead guys). Tell me your thoughts on the game. Did you guys have fun?
Askthepizzaguy
09-08-2008, 03:27
passes out, and drowns in his humble pie.
:skull:
Good game. I nearly had you... I was this close... but I listened to El Diablo and voted FH. Had I voted El Diablo, there would only have remained WH who would have been the lynch next turn.
My fault...
eats more pie. Sobs uncontrollably...
El Diablo
09-08-2008, 03:40
Awesome game. My first time as scum and I loved it.
Thought that ATPG had me a couple of times but bluffed and bluffed.
It was definatly not your fault ATPG (hoping not to see hoards of blitzing spearmen heading for New Zealand on a crusade). You had a choice and made a call. I did the same in the starship mafia and lost too.
Thanks for hosting Chaotix and your "adjustment" of players ensured that it was not unfair. Eitherside could have won up until the last round.
Also 400+ posts for a mini mafia hints at a well run, hosted and attended game. :2thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
09-08-2008, 03:45
Yeah it was so my fault.
I led the town, had all the evidence, made the proper reveal at the proper time, made the proper lies to cover my weaknesses, gave credit to the lies of my allies to cover theirs, and made serious thoughts when choosing who was scum.
I made sure to keep guilt off of myself by making sure everyone knew how unafraid of death I was. I did everything right, up until the final decision to lynch FactionHeir.
My blunder derailed town. That's all there is to say about that.
:wall:
FactionHeir is such a calm, calculating persona here on the Org that he just reeked of guilt to me. Trying to hide his motivations, his reasons, his abilities... sigh. I considered that to be guilty behavior, but maybe it was just smart behavior.
We almost had El DIablo in the bag twice...
...
WH was supposedly the next to go...
...
They were both discussed as the possible mafia (including me and FH)... and yet somehow evaded...
:wall::furious3::wall::furious3::wall::furious3:That said, congratulations to El Diablo and Warmaster Horus. :applause:
They chose the right victims.
Their posts, to thwart suspicion, was just enough to avoid top votes.
Credit to Tiberius, too. In what I consider sheer dumb luck, his getting WoG-ed was enough to discredit my suspicions about the twins.
Now staring at a 0-2 mafia game record... :bomb2: If town looses in 'Spirit' ...Thank you Chaotix27 for hosting a very entertaining game. Glad to be a part of this
:medievalcheers:
Can I ask, what was my other special ability that could have been unlocked?
Thanks for hosting :balloon2:
Warmaster Horus
09-08-2008, 08:29
Thanks for hosting! Awesome game!
I honestly didn't think the mafia would do it...
Good game everyone!
FactionHeir
09-08-2008, 12:47
Told you WH was mafia.
And I asked glyphz to kill ED after we lynched WH, but you had to lynch me :no:
Good game Chaotix ~:)
Quintus.JC
09-08-2008, 16:01
Great game Chaotix! almost 500 posts for a mini mafia, wow! :beam:
Congratulation to the mafia, Warmaster Horus and El Diablo had me fooled for the least. Even with all the odds against them they still came out on top. :bow:
Thanks to all the participents for making this such a wonderful game. :2thumbsup:
Great game! :2thumbsup: Hope you do one like this except bigger and with the dead allowed to talk (:clown:)
:bow:
noooooooooooooooo!
i voted for el diablo aswell, i take it my special ability was immobize at this stage in the story? it didnt svae me lol, anyway brill game!
And allow private reveals! If you give the mafia fake roles then it wont always change much but it makes the game a lot more interesting if you ask me, look at Midgard II for a good example of a large game.
But for a small game this was very fun, hope you host again some time :2thumbsup:
Tiberius of the Drake
09-08-2008, 23:03
For the record my being wogged was seriously because of my loss of internet not because of my being lazy
To EF: Originally, you were supposed to be a turncoat --> serial killer in the event that Rosa was lynched. You wouldn't have been affiliated with Zemus and the mafia, though. However, after Tiberius was WoG'ed, and WH took his place, I decided not to put in another turncoat even though Rosa was eventually lynched. I will also try allowing private reveals next time, but to be honest, I've been so overloaded with schoolwork lately that it may be a long time before that happens.
To Tiberius: I apologize for WoG'ing you, then. Originally, I did, as you suggested, think that you just didn't care. Then I saw you post later in, and would have said something, but the game was still going. You do understand why I had to WoG, though, right? I didn't know how much longer you would be gone (which turned out to be another couple days), and as you were an integral role that the mafia needed in order to kill (before night 4, the mafia could only kill one, even though there was 2 of them). If the mafia was forcedly inactive for a couple of nights, the town would have gained a big advantage.
To everyone else: thanks for all your complements! I enjoyed this as much as you guys did!
Askthepizzaguy
09-09-2008, 01:42
I would have enjoyed it more if I had won brilliantly, instead of losing half as brilliantly.
:clown:
To EF: Originally, you were supposed to be a turncoat --> serial killer in the event that Rosa was lynched. You wouldn't have been affiliated with Zemus and the mafia, though. However, after Tiberius was WoG'ed, and WH took his place, I decided not to put in another turncoat even though Rosa was eventually lynched. I will also try allowing private reveals next time, but to be honest, I've been so overloaded with schoolwork lately that it may be a long time before that happens.
Ah right, and I know how you feel about being overloaded :laugh4:
we should post 20 more times here for lunar whale updates randomly, a good game like this deserves rounding up to 500 posts!
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