View Full Version : Omertà: A small Mafia [Concluded]
Greyblades
05-23-2009, 21:14
There is an edit button you know.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-23-2009, 21:16
hmm I will unvote:atheotes for now, some things just don't add up.
Askthepizzaguy
05-23-2009, 21:27
I was never comfortable with lynching atheotes, but I'm not sure this one is any better
unvote: atheotes
Are we DEAD CERTAIN about these investigations? Which ones are we not certain about?
Sasaki Kojiro
05-23-2009, 21:40
I suppose I will Vote:Beefy
Northnovas
05-24-2009, 00:50
I think Beefy would be a good choice I think the actions at the beginning were a diversion. That's the rumour around the big house.
Beefy187
05-24-2009, 02:11
So if I am a Stoolie. I told my fellow team mate to give it a phone call to arrest me, without prompting the medic (Tratorix) who is clearly on your side.
If I did think that would succeed, I will be nearly as legendary as Chuck Norris..
All I can do is apologize for making my self look like a good lynch.
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 04:32
I don't think beefy is a good lynch. Who do you suspect, beefy?
Tratorix
05-24-2009, 11:27
I don't think beefy is a good lynch. Who do you suspect, beefy?
Well, I'm not Beefy, but I'd personally lynch you.
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 11:31
That sounds like a good idea. :medievalcheers:
Especially since I was confirmed 100% loyal via investigation. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Tratorix
05-24-2009, 11:35
That sounds like a good idea. :medievalcheers:
Especially since I was confirmed 100% loyal via investigation. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
Yeah, because investigations have done so much this game. No investigations have revealed anyone as disloyal even though the don, consigliere and the capos all presumably had investigation powers. It would make sense that a cop who was deep undercover wouldn't be found out easily.
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 11:46
I've gotten nothing but bad advice coming from those in jail.
I have a feeling those who are arrested ARE the stoolies.
Tratorix
05-24-2009, 11:52
I've gotten nothing but bad advice coming from those in jail.
I have a feeling those who are arrested ARE the stoolies.
:laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 11:58
:laugh4:
Well, White_Eyes' "reveal" early on in the game followed by nothing constructive, with a false result on me was hilarious enough, but then we have those in the big house trying to lynch Beefy, who the cops tried to arrest. Now we have Tratorix declaring me guilty as well. When pever was arrested he seemingly gave up entirely. Not a whole lot of positives in favor of the people in jail. Even the Don was sure White_Eyes' reveal was fake, and made sure I got investigated anyway just to be sure.
Perhaps you honestly have no clue who could be a traitor, which is fine. But so far there's ample evidence that those in the "big house" are deliberately trying to impede our efforts.
Tratorix
05-24-2009, 12:02
Well, White_Eyes' "reveal" early on in the game followed by nothing constructive, with a false result on me was hilarious enough, but then we have those in the big house trying to lynch Beefy, who the cops tried to arrest. Now we have Tratorix declaring me guilty as well. When pever was arrested he seemingly gave up entirely. Not a whole lot of positives in favor of the people in jail. Even the Don was sure White_Eyes' reveal was fake, and made sure I got investigated anyway just to be sure.
Perhaps you honestly have no clue who could be a traitor, which is fine. But so far there's ample evidence that those in the "big house" are deliberately trying to impede our efforts.
So, White eyes posted a false reveal, I suspect you = everyone arrested is a cop? Well done. You've cracked the case. :smash:
You should be lynched. :yes:
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 12:05
So, White eyes posted a false reveal, I suspect you = everyone arrested is a cop? Well done. You've cracked the case. :smash:
Not what I said... those arrested could have an alignment shift. The evidence does seem to support that as a possibility. It would explain all the unhelpful contributions.
Tratorix
05-24-2009, 12:11
Not what I said... those arrested could have an alignment shift. The evidence does seem to support that as a possibility. It would explain all the unhelpful contributions.
"Evidence is a strong word. What you're saying is more like "hearsay" or "assumptions" or possibly even "stuff I'm pulling out of my ass". You've been a "confirmed innocent" all game. You've done nothing when voting but follow the bandwagon. Whenever anyone suspects you your reaction is quick and far too vehement in your defense. You are now purposing a harebrained scheme to undermine my credibility despite the fact that you know I've been protecting people from arrest for half the game. Out of all the people left, you seem the most guilty to me.
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 13:52
It all sounds quite reasonable.
I give you an "A" for effort. But you're still wrong.
navarro951
05-24-2009, 21:28
Im leaning toward Beefy, thats all there is too it. And Atheotes, your next on my list. So if am arrested the following night, ill assume u had a hand in it.
Greyblades
05-24-2009, 21:57
What you assume will be pointless; you'll still be dead.
Askthepizzaguy
05-24-2009, 22:49
vote: Atheotes
Upon reflection, it's been said he was an investigator... and it's been said he cleared a number of people. But I don't think so, especially if he was inactive.
Tally:
Atheotes- 2 (Beefy, ATPG)
Beefy- 3 (navarro, AVSM, Sasaki)
edit: Atheotes wouldn't vote for himself I don't think, so... :wall:
navarro951
05-24-2009, 22:57
What you assume will be pointless; you'll still be dead.
True but at least ill have an influence.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-24-2009, 22:58
Presumably it has to be one or the other. Which means we should be successful either way.
GeneralHankerchief
05-24-2009, 23:00
Voting will close in precisely 2 hours. It doesn't matter whether I'm actually on or not to formalize closure.
Askthepizzaguy
05-25-2009, 00:43
Well we clearly don't have the votes to get Atheotes.
So, if that's the judgment of all, let's make sure there's no last minute vote switching. I admit I could be wrong and I'd rather not be responsible for a bad lynch again.
unvote, vote: Beefy
Because I am a traitor and this is the only way to make it look like I'm still on the side of the mafia; by lynching one of my own.
:wall:
Beefy187
05-25-2009, 00:47
Well we clearly don't have the votes to get Atheotes.
So, if that's the judgment of all, let's make sure there's no last minute vote switching. I admit I could be wrong and I'd rather not be responsible for a bad lynch again.
unvote, vote: Beefy
Because I am a traitor and this is the only way to make it look like I'm still on the side of the mafia; by lynching one of my own.
:wall:
Heres a ~:cheers: to the dead certain assurance to my lynch
Unvote, Vote: Beefy
Greyblades
05-25-2009, 00:52
Is it me, or is voting yourself to death becoming a trend here?
Askthepizzaguy
05-25-2009, 00:55
You know Beefy... I can never tell if you're mafia because you are so calm about your death no matter which side you're on. It seems like nothing ruffles your feathers.
:bow:
Beefy187
05-25-2009, 00:56
Is it me, or is voting yourself to death becoming a trend here?
Trend... Although I wouldn't advice people to do it.
If you vote for someone else and make a fair case against them, theres a good chance that there will be some vote changes. This case, I don't have much against Atheotes except the fact that he isn't investigated yet and I'm innocent which no one seems to believe.
So if I am to die, I'll do it me self.
@ATPG
I just keep the "laugh at them for their horrible mistake" option until after game :clown:
And this case, I'm not getting lynched without a reason, so I'm happy with it
A Very Super Market
05-25-2009, 01:00
Not really. Navarro is the one who gave the killing vote.
GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2009, 01:00
Voting closed.
Askthepizzaguy
05-25-2009, 01:02
AVSM-
I don't trust Navarro or Sasaki fully. Who investigated them and under what circumstances were they found innocent? I am fully aware I'm making most of the players here my enemy, but unless I know for sure they are 100% cleared, I'm tempted to vote for one of them in the next round.
Beefy187
05-25-2009, 01:02
Not really. Navarro is the one who gave the killing vote.
Shuush.. I was in the process of making my self look cool :smash:
GeneralHankerchief
05-25-2009, 02:08
Day 7
Things had come full circle for Geno Vetto (Beefy187). A week ago, he had been attacked by the police, but saved by some fellow soldiers in what touched off the whole Catalano Crisis of 2009. Now, he was sitting at the Don's table - it was circular, now, as there were only six of them to discuss matters - and being accused of being the Stoolie. His accusers believed that his execution would end things.
Geno, ever the cool customer, kept his emotions down, trying to logically put down the accusations. The main point seemed to be that, as a Stoolie, it would be easy to fake his own arrest and "get off on a technicality", all the while continuing to supply information to the enemy. It was far-fetched, yes, but then again you had to be paranoid in this business if you wanted to survive.
Was paranoia getting the best of Don Giampetro and his men? This was the question each of them was asking as they discussed the theory and ultimately decided to name Geno as a Stoolie. Geno, for his part, was aghast at the discussion and did try to deflect suspicion the other way, as a loyal soldier of the Catalano family would do facing extinction.
However, it was not good enough. After a while, Don Giampetro wordlessly motioned to his bodyguards, who picked Geno up and escorted him out of the room. In a matter of minutes, Geno Vetto would be sleeping with the fishes. The question was: Would the rest of the Family be joining him?
~~~~~~~~~
Active: (5)
A Very Super Market
navarro951
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
Sasaki Kojiro
Arrested:
White_eyes:D
Northnovas
Tratorix
pevergreen
Executed:
Shinseikhaan
Captain Blackadder
FactionHeir
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Greyblades
Beefy187
Tratorix
05-25-2009, 02:13
:wall::wall::wall::wall:
Really guys? Really?
Beefy187
05-25-2009, 02:16
:wall::wall::wall::wall:
Really guys? Really?
Shame... I rather have joined you guys in Jail :sweatdrop:
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 00:30
There has been a development and as a result I may need to extend this round.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 20:39
Starting the writeup. It's pretty... interesting, so it may take a while.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 21:57
Night 8
"He *is* vulnerable!" Frank Ianetta shouted into his cell phone. "I'm sure of it! You've taken down his Underboss and Consigliere, and I'm his only Capo left! If there's not a power vacuum right now, then there will never be one! Go to Anthony Giampetro's house and arrest him! You have the evidence, and he no longer has the power! What are you waiting for?!"
If Ianetta sounded overly anxious, that was because he had lived the paranoid life of a mafioso for many years now. Was he confident he would succeed? Of course. He had gone over it a thousand times. Take away the Don's upper-echelon protection and it becomes almost impossible to resist arrest. Successfully arrest the Don with such a power vacuum and the entire family crumbles. However, that wasn't the point. Murphy's Law applied doubly so to people "in the business". How many times had he been assigned a hit on a victim where they had had to call it off at the last second because something was wrong? This situation was now like the many others, only the stakes were far, far higher.
Ianetta was at his favorite sports bar rather than in the police's custody. After all, if something went wrong, those few hours where he couldn't be accounted for would be absolutely deadly to him. Plus, the relatively noisy atmosphere of the restaurant allowed him to make such phone calls without anybody snooping.
Meanwhile, Anthony Giampetro was making a phone call of his own, but this time from the privacy of his office. He sounded equally tense and combustible as Ianetta.
"This is why I promoted you!" he barked. "The police are still on all of our tails. Obviously, the matter has not been resolved yet, despite the best of our efforts. Democracy has failed. I am now dealing with this situation my own way. I order you to find Frank Ianetta and kill him!"
In his barbershop in South Philadelphia, Sal the Barber put the phone down in the back room and went back to the front of the store, where there was still a perturbed customer, haircut half-finished, wondering who on earth could be shouting at Sal through a phone this hour.
"Sorry, Mac," Sal said, taking some cash out of his pocket. "I've got other business to tend to today. Something urgent came up. Here's your refund. Come back tomorrow maybe and I'll finish it up for you." Sal quickly changed clothes - now wearing a trenchcoat, of course - and exited the store, failing to even lock up, leaving only the increasingly perturbed customer alone in the store.
"But... but I've got to do a big presentation today in front of my CEO and the entire board! I can't go in with a half-finished haircut!"
...
"He's not at home," came the voice on the phone.
"Dammit!" Purely by luck, Ianetta's curse was well-timed with the sporting event shown on TV where one of the Phillies had made an error. Looking around to make sure that everyone was appreciably into the game, Frank started speaking again. "Have you tried the safehouse?"
"We've staked that place out ever since we arrested Fillari," came the reply. "Giampetro's not there."
"All right... have you tried his office?" Ianetta said, starting to sweat. For better or for worse, he would feel much better once this day had ended. "You guys do know where that is, right? I mean, I assume you've had it bugged for years now... what? What do you mean you don't know??!?!" Spitting out a string of curses in Italian, Frank looked around, this time finding everyone in the bar staring at him.
"Oh, uh... I, uh, don't like this commercial," he stammered, and then went back to the phone, talking in a fierce whisper. "All right," he hissed, "It's the upstairs of one of the clubs in Center City. Very classy, built about seven, eight years ago. Yeah, that's the name. You know where it is? Great. Please let me know if you get him." Frank snapped his phone shut and wiped the sweat off his face. He decided to go to the bathroom for the fourth time since he'd been there.
...
*ding dong*
A woman in her early forties opened the door. She found herself staring at a man with a trenchcoat, looking pleasantly at her. "Hi Sal," she said, "What can I do for ya?"
"Is Frankie around?" Sal the Barber replied. "He and I were supposed to go to Atlantic City for the day, kind of take our minds off of what's been happening."
She eyed him suspiciously. "Don't know nothing about that," she said. Did she know about her husband's true affiliation? No. Did she suspect something? Yes. Plus, she was well aware of the perils of being a mafioso and how quickly fate turned. Mrs. Ianetta definitely knew something was up, and Sal would have to tread carefully here to avoid losing Frank.
"Well," Sal said, smooth as anything, "He didn't think you'd like hearing it. It was pretty much going to be a night of drinking, gambling... and maybe even women."
Mrs. Ianetta's eyes narrowed. Her feelings of suspicion were quickly erased, being overwhelmed by new pangs of anger and jealousy. "Oh, really?" she said. "In that case, you can find him at his usual bar. Let him know to enjoy Atlantic City as much as he can though, because once he gets back he's going to be in the doghouse for a while!"
"Will do, Mrs. Ianetta," Sal said, tipping an imaginary cap and walking back to his car.
...
"Sal!" the Don shouted over the phone. "I can hear sirens in the distance! How close are you to getting him?!"
"If his wife told me the truth, he should be at his usual sports bar. Heading there now."
"Be quick about it, man! The fate of the Catalano Family rests in your hands!"
"Will you stop being so melodramatic? I can't crank up the gas on city streets when there's a traffic light on every block!"
"JUST GET TO THE BAR AND DO THE *#%! JOB!!!"
...
"How close are you?"
"We're at the club now, getting out."
"Thank God. Let me know when you bring him in."
...
Over at the club, Anthony Giampetro (A Very Super Market) slammed down his phone. For the first time in several minutes, his own shouting and muttering did not drown out the events happening outside. The sirens were loud now, very loud indeed. He looked out the window... and cursed. There were dozens of cars bearing down on his location.
"Anthony Giampetro!" came the magnified voice. "I am Sergeant David McGee, Philadelphia Police Department! We have the building surrounded and men are coming up to arrest you! Do not attempt to resist!"
Crushed, Don Giampetro went back to his desk and opened a secret drawer, the drawer containing his personal revolver. Looking it over for a good long while, he contemplated using it, either against the officers or himself... and then put it back. There was a noise on his door now, a banging. Don Giampetro walked away from the desk, closer to the door, his hands up. The door came crashing down and Anthony Giampetro walked into the abyss of cops, ready for the next part of his life.
...
"Pick up, pick up..." Sal the Barber (navarro951) muttered into his cell phone. He was about to tell the Don that he was about to go into the bar and complete his mission, but the Don had gone silent at the other end.
"Maybe he's just using the bathroom," Sal, the Don's Hand said to himself, and walked through the front doors.
...
Frank Ianetta (atheotes) was so concentrated on speaking into his phone that he became completely oblivious of all of his surroundings. The Phillies game, the impression he was leaving on the bar's other patrons, it all ceased to matter. The only important thing in the world was that Don Anthony Giampetro had been arrested. Breathing even became secondary.
"Come on," he said to the phone, "pick up, pick up. You should be there by now. Pick up... pick up..." He failed to notice the shadow that had appeared over him as he continued to try to get a hold of the police.
The last emotion that Frank Ianetta knew before Sal the Barber ended his life was one of great anticipation. Sal left the scene quickly, not even bothering to take or destroy Frank's old phone, which was on the ground, sputtering.
"Frank!" came the voice at the other end. "We've got the Don! He's ours now! You can come to HQ, nothing's going to get you now! Hello? Frank? Hello?"
~~~~~~~~~~
Survived: (3)
navarro951 - Sal the Barber (Made man, promoted to Don's Hand N8)
Askthepizzaguy - Crazy Legs Miracola (Made man)
Sasaki Kojiro - Vincent Selvo (Made man, promoted to Capo N8)
Arrested:
White_eyes:D - Johnny Morganti (Capo)
Northnovas - George Marzano (Made man)
Tratorix - Michael Delvecchio (Underboss)
pevergreen - Vito Fillari (Consigliere)
A Very Super Market - Anthony Giampetro (Don)
Murdered:
atheotes - Frank Ianetta (Capo) - STOOLIE
Executed:
Shinseikhaan - Angelo Cifelli (Capo)
Captain Blackadder - Steven Gargano (Made man)
FactionHeir - Joseph D'Orazio (Made man) - STOOLIE
spL1tp3r50naL1ty - Al Graziani (Made man) - recruitable Stoolie (recruit never attempted)
Greyblades - Phil Lutz (Made man)
Beefy187 - Geno Vetto (Made man)
Final result:
DRAW
~~~~~~~~~
Good game everybody, and thanks for participating! This was pretty much an experimental game for me, as I wanted to see how this system worked and to see if it was usable for a larger game. Considering the result, I'm definitely happy about how it turned out. :2thumbsup:
seireikhaan
05-26-2009, 22:00
Executed:
Shinseikhaan - Angelo Cifelli (Capo)
Considering the result, I'm definitely happy about how it turned out. :2thumbsup:
Sans the part about a capo getting lynched the first day. :laugh4: :sweatdrop:
Splitpersonality
05-26-2009, 22:04
I was recruitable? :o
Then I can claim my suicide was to keep myself from being recruited (:clown:)
Very good game, I didn't suspect either of you, to be honest.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-26-2009, 22:08
Heh, excellent game. We really should have lynched atheotes instead of greyblades or beefy.
Greyblades
05-26-2009, 22:08
So, my capo and fellow made man were stoolies... dang.
Askthepizzaguy
05-26-2009, 22:11
atheotes being inactive really threw me, but I agree he was a better lynch than Beefy.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-26-2009, 22:16
I wish I'd gotten my vote in a few minutes earlier the day we lynched greyblades.
I assumed we had the time to lynch both beefy and atheotes. Bad mistake..
One of the longest "small mafia" games on record I believe.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 22:16
Role PMs and structure:
Don:
A Very Super Market
Anthony Giampetro – Don
Description: The unquestioned ruler of the Catalano crime family for over a decade, you are a very shrewd, powerful man. However, you can also sense the walls closing in on you. The Feds want to take you down. You know they’re after you. They have in all probability infiltrated your organization. The code of Omertà may soon be in danger.
So far, though, you are untouchable so long as your Underboss, Consigliere, or at least two of your Capos remain alive. Should you lose all of them, however, you know you’re vulnerable.
Powers: Every two nights, starting on Night 1, you may investigate someone to determine their loyalties. In addition, you may at any time bestow the role of “Don’s Hand” to any one player. This player is granted with the ability to kill as a vigilante, however, it replaces any ability they may already have. Finally, in the event of the death of one of your Capos, you may promote one of the Made men to take their place. Likewise, in the event of the death of your Underboss or Consigliere, you may promote one of your Capos to take their place. You may only use each of the promotion abilities ONCE.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Underboss:
Tratorix
Michael Delvecchio – Underboss
Description: The second-in-command of the Catalano crime family and one of the Don’s two right-hand men, along with the Consigliere. You hand down orders to the family Capos, who report directly to you. Your Don is in a bit of a spot right now, as he knows the family has been infiltrated. Anyone is a suspect, including the Consigliere and your precious Capos.
Powers: You command considerable muscle in the family. Every night you may send soldiers to protect the home of one person. The police, seeking to avoid violence, will not arrest somebody after a firefight and that person will be protected. In addition, you are somewhat protected against arrest yourself.
Don Giampetro knows your identity. It is up to you if you wish to reveal it to anyone else.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Consigliere:
pevergreen
Vito Fillari – Consigliere
Description: You are the consigliere, or adviser, of the Catalano family and a personal friend of Don Giampetro’s for many years. You are his right-hand man along with his Underboss, and answerable only to the Don. You represent him in official meetings and in some ways are more powerful than the Underboss. It is your job to assist the Don in these times of trouble.
Powers: Every night, you may investigate one person to determine their true loyalties to the Catalano family. However, these results may be ambiguous and you may need to conduct a follow-up investigation. In addition, you are somewhat protected against arrest (night killings in this game).
Don Giampetro knows your identity. It is up to you if you wish to reveal it to anyone else.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Capo:
atheotes
Frank Ianetta – Capo
Description: An “officer” of sorts in the Catalano family, you directly command a group of Made men and answer to the Underboss. You enjoy far more power and prestige than the average Made man in the outfit, and you are well aware of every person under your command’s activities.
Powers: Every other night, starting Night 2, you may investigate one person under your command and determine their true loyalties to the Catalano family.
The Made men you control are FactionHeir, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, and Greyblades, however, for game balancing purposes they are unaware of your or anyone else’s identity.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Made man:
FactionHeir
Joseph D’Orazio – Made man
Description: A loyal foot soldier of the Catalano family. While the lowest-ranking official member, you still are incredibly well-off, as the Mafia works plenty of times with uninducted associates. You also enjoy the full protection and services of the Catalano organization, which is more than can be said for a lot of poor souls trying to get in.
Powers: As a Made man, you are eligible to have a voice in the daily Mafia Councils in order to express your opinion on who the stoolies are. In addition, you are allowed to vote for the person who you think is most likely guilty to be “taken for a ride”. (In other words, standard townie role).
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Capo promotion:
As you are going about your day, you receive a phone call from the Don, asking you to come in and see him. Naturally, you oblige. He asks you a few questions regarding loyalty and what not, and you answer honestly, being an honest soldier. At the end of it, he shakes your hand, and promotes you.
Congratulations, you are now a Capo.
Sasaki Kojiro
Vincent Selvo - Capo
Description: An “officer” of sorts in the Catalano family, you directly command a group of Made men and answer to the Underboss. You enjoy far more power and prestige than the average Made man in the outfit, and you are well aware of every person under your command’s activities.
Powers: Every other night, starting Night 2, you may investigate one person under your command and determine their true loyalties to the Catalano family.
The Made men you control are navarro951 and Beefy187, however, for game balancing purposes they are unaware of your or anyone else’s identity. Your previous Capo was Shinseikhaan.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
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(I do realize that your role has become somewhat useless by now, but we'll see what happens.)
Don's Hand promotion:
As you are going about your day, you receive a phone call from the Don, asking you to come in and see him. Naturally, you oblige. He asks you a few questions regarding loyalty and what not, and you answer honestly, being an honest soldier. At the end of it, he shakes your hand, and promotes you.
Congratulations, you are now the Don's Hand.
navarro951
Sal the Barber - Don's hand
Description: Drastic times call for drastic measures. Don Giampetro has called upon you above all of his other soldiers to enforce his will on the Catalano family. You are above everything - the law (unless you get caught), the Don's officers, even the Catalano code of justice itself - in your attempts to solve this crisis your own special way.
Powers: Every night, you must send me the name of one person whom you wish to kill. This is essentially the same as arresting somebody, but as a vigilante you seek to take out the Stoolies, not bring mafiosi to justice. While you are obviously in the Don's favor, him having placed so much faith and trust in you, you do not count as an objective for the Stoolies to take out and are unable to protect your Don/draw fire in any way.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
Stoolie (PM provided minutes after the original PMs were sent):
atheotes and FactionHeir
Frank Ianetta and Joseph D'Orazio - The Stoolies
Description: Congratulations, you're betraying your blood brothers, deciding to throw in your lot with the *gag* law. For whatever reason - the Don annoyed you, the cops got you in trouble and you took a deal, you've been working with them from the start - you have decided to break Omertà and turn in the members of the Catalano family.
Ultimately, your goal is to bring down Don Giampetro. However, he is untouchable at the moment. First, you need to take down his higher-ranking members: His Underboss, consigliere, and one of his Capos.
Despite the fact that FH is under atheotes's command as Capo, as far as the rest of the town's concerned, there is no difference in rank between you two as stoolies.
Powers: Every night, you may choose one of the following combinations:
- Team up and tell the cops to arrest (night-kill) one person. This guarantees success.
- Have one of you tell the cops to arrest someone, and the other investigate someone else in order to determine their rank in the Catalano hierarchy.
- Have two of you tell the cops to arrest different people. Due to balancing issues, this option may only be chosen TWICE.
- Team up and investigate the same person in order to obtain more thorough results.
Good luck. :2thumbsup:
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Errata:
The Underboss and Consigliere were immune to one arrest attempt each. After that, they would require protection. A team-Stoolie kill would blast through either immunity or protection, however. However, if both were laid together, a team Stoolie kill would not. However, had they recruited Split at that point and put all three Stoolies to kill one person, both immunity and protection would be rendered moot.
Split would have been recruited by a simple arrest attempt - no special orders required.
As I said in the thread, investigation abilities varied. The Consigliere and Stoolies got to investigate every night, but with minimal results - starting out with just rank, like so:
navarro951 - Made man.
A follow-up investigation would have revealed "real name" as well as loyalty:
navarro951 - Sal the Barber - Made man. Loyal soldier.
In the case of investigation of atheotes or FH, "Loyal Soldier" would have been replaced by "Disloyal." In the case of investigation of Split, I would have put nothing down for loyalty. However, if he was converted by that point, he would have received the "Disloyal" epithet.
If the Consigliere/Stoolie did a third follow-up, I provided them with a "Psychological profile" which made plain their loyalty, role, and vulnerability (in the case of the Don).
The Don and the Capos got to investigate less frequently, but OTOH it only took them one try to get to "Level 2" of the investigation details. In addition, were atheotes to investigate any of the men under him as Capo, he would get Level 2 as well.
Once FH was lynched, I upgraded atheotes's powers in order to not cripple him:
Your partner, Joseph D'Orazio (FactionHeir) has been lynched. This is not a good sign for you, as the cops inform you that you are now the law's only "in" on the Catalano family. Looks like you're going to have to do more work in his absence.
The good news: You may now "arrest" and investigate one person every night. In addition, the investigation results you obtain will be more thorough than the previous ones.
The bad news: The double-arrest option and the "gang-up" arrest options are now closed off to you.
You're in the hole, but you're by no means out of this. Good luck in the rest of the game. FH will still be able to help you out, but in an advisory capacity only. :yes:
From that point on, atheotes went straight to Level 3 (Psychological Profiles) whenever he investigated somebody.
~~~~~~~~~~
Ranking tier:
Don: AVSM
Underboss: Tratorix
Consigliere: pever
Capo1: atheotes
Made1a: FH
Made1b: Split
Made1c: Greyblades
Capo2: khaan
Made2a: navarro
Made2b: Beefy
Made2c: Sasaki
Capo3: White_eyes
Made3a: ATPG
Made3b: Blackadder
Made3c: Northnovas
All roles were determined by random.org. In addition, I determined Stoolies after I had already sent out PMs to everybody, in order to test the flexibility of the system. I wonder how things would have turned out, for example, if random.org had spat back Tratorix or pever as one of the Stoolies. Tratorix was absolutely huge in this game, and a big congrats to him. It would have been very bad for the Don if he were an enemy.
In conclusion, once again, I think this system was a success and am eager to try it out again. Thanks for playing, everybody! :medievalcheers:
Sasaki Kojiro
05-26-2009, 22:27
Hmm, as the highest ranking living member of the family, I declare myself the leader. You may call me "Don Selvo" from now on.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 22:29
Hmm, as the highest ranking living member of the family, I declare myself the leader. You may call me "Don Selvo" from now on.
Enjoy your three-man criminal empire, Don Selvo. :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
05-26-2009, 22:33
I swear my oath of loyalty to you, Don Selvo. And I will find plenty of new henchmen for you. This isn't over... oh, no... not by a long shot.
We will rule this town forever.
FactionHeir
05-26-2009, 22:54
Thanks for being fooled by my attempt to not have you guys lynch atheotes :bow: Well played all.
navarro951
05-26-2009, 23:09
Haha I feel so cool, got to whack that last rat myself. I knew i made the right decision when i sent that kill order in. It just could not have been anyone else.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 23:12
Haha I feel so cool, got to whack that last rat myself. I knew i made the right decision when i sent that kill order in. It just could not have been anyone else.
I think you took my advice more than anybody to heart: "Try not to die." See where it got you? :laugh4: :2thumbsup:
Splitpersonality
05-26-2009, 23:14
Well played navarro, and AVSM good job holding us together.
Pizza guy, great roleplaying, as always :P
Askthepizzaguy
05-26-2009, 23:28
There needs to be more Mafia-themed townie games.
Not having to pretend to be innocent is nice.
pevergreen
05-26-2009, 23:30
I helped :grin2:
I was on the same line of thought as ATPG, Aethoetes was just away for too long.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 23:34
There needs to be more Mafia-themed townie games.
Not having to pretend to be innocent is nice.
Well, I am designing a Large game based off this, but first I have to do Pirate Ship Mafia and Mafia IX. So it might take a while. :laugh4:
navarro951
05-26-2009, 23:35
I think you took my advice more than anybody to heart: "Try not to die." See where it got you? :laugh4: :2thumbsup:
I have to say GH, you put on one amazing show here, this game was my best so far. I cant believe as much support as i showed for the don, attempting to lynch the right people and what not that i was never knocked on by a stoolie.
Splitpersonality
05-26-2009, 23:35
I like the themes of your games GH, Pirates and Mafia?
I feel like a wee lad again :P
A Very Super Market
05-26-2009, 23:37
Dawh, I played a bad game. Sasaki was supposed to be made Capo on N7, but I forgot to send the PM in. Ah well.
Good job everybody.
pevergreen
05-26-2009, 23:38
No one believed me when I lead to charge at FactionHeir, but I showed you! :tongue:
The large games queue is so looooong.
Blast you Aethotos! I would have gotten your role if you had not voted that one round!
Speaking of mafia themed games, I have a classic one coming up instead of my Dark Vacuum variant - everything is quite worked out, and with GH's permission, I would like to make it a continuation of this game under his tutelage.
Yes, that does indeed those who survived for the most part will reprise their roles from here - Don Selvo.
Sasaki Kojiro
05-26-2009, 23:42
Yes, that does indeed those who survived for the most part will reprise their roles from here - Don Selvo.
Heh, this is a cool idea. Have the survivors of a game live on in the next series, written into the story somehow.
Heh, this is a cool idea. Have the survivors of a game live on in the next series, written into the story somehow.
That's how all my games run :beam:
I like continuity and sequels.
So yes, Sasaki finally and faithful follows mafia rule #1 himself - Sasaki is always mafia.
GeneralHankerchief
05-26-2009, 23:59
Well, I was planning on doing a sequel or two for this one myself (and yeah, actually taking your ideas :laugh4:), but...
...well, we'll talk. :yes:
pevergreen
05-27-2009, 00:17
I shall live on!
A Very Super Market
05-27-2009, 00:46
We'll break out! Underboss, Consigliere, Don, Capo, and a made man! We're comin' back for sure!
Beefy187
05-27-2009, 00:54
Thats two game in a row, dying completely innocent :laugh4:
Gold age is back!
Well, I was planning on doing a sequel or two for this one myself (and yeah, actually taking your ideas :laugh4:), but...
...well, we'll talk. :yes:
Oh you dastard!
It's okay, I like the idea of simply getting the roles some use, and exploring how to get vanilla roles to work in newer ways is fun really.
So long as they get used :2thumbsup:
Splitpersonality
05-27-2009, 03:08
I demand to come back as my dead character, or some sort of ridiculous notion such as.
I demand to come back as my dead character, or some sort of ridiculous notion such as.
I have other plans for you :wink:
Splitpersonality
05-27-2009, 03:14
:clown:
That could be taken in so many ways, I'll make sure not to miss your next game :thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 03:15
That could be taken in so many ways
Just keep those ways PG-13.
Splitpersonality
05-27-2009, 03:16
I didn't mean it like that!
I didn't mean it like that!
Yea, really. I have an aptitude for dead things but that's pushing it.
Tratorix
05-27-2009, 05:26
Note to self: There is no such thing as someone being too inactive to be guilty.
Good game Factionheir and atheotes. :bow:
On the plus side though, I finally played a game as a power town role and didn't screw it up!
Also, apologies to ATPG. I'll have to remember in future games that your playing style always makes me think you're guilty. :sorry:
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 05:38
Also, apologies to ATPG. I'll have to remember in future games that your playing style always makes me think you're guilty. :sorry:
Everyone always thinks I'm guilty. Except when I actually am guilty.
4/5 as mafia isn't bad. But when I am a townie, I usually die. This game and Villains were the oddball exceptions.
Tratorix
05-27-2009, 05:42
Everyone always thinks I'm guilty. Except when I actually am guilty.
4/5 as mafia isn't bad. But when I am a townie, I usually die. This game and Villains were the oddball exceptions.
So... your saying we should lynch you everytime, just to be safe? Ok then.
:clown:
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 05:47
So... your saying we should lynch you everytime, just to be safe? Ok then.
:clown:
Doesn't bother me as long as I'm not always the first to go. But anyone who wants me dead every game is a player I'll mark down on my "remember to vote for them" list.
A Very Super Market
05-27-2009, 06:17
50% percent of my inbox is taken up by this game. Crikey...
pevergreen
05-27-2009, 06:46
50% percent of my inbox is taken up by this game. Crikey...
Capo 1 took up my entire inbox.
At least 3 times. Save as text format ftw!
Beefy187
05-27-2009, 06:53
I had to empty my pm box, at least 5 times in the past 3 months. :smash:
Sasaki Kojiro
05-27-2009, 07:05
elcome, Sasaki Kojiro.
You last visited: Today at 01:46
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I haven't deleted pm's since before capo II :bounce:
I haven't deleted pm's since before capo II :bounce:
Dear God...
pevergreen
05-27-2009, 08:07
Damn you Mods. :grin2:
edit: I had to empty mine a few days ago. I keep all my role PMs though.
atheotes
05-27-2009, 11:42
:inquisitive: i got killed? there were recruits during the night and they got to do a night action the same night? :furious3:
great game GH...thoroughly loved it :2thumbsup:
I am still learning and FH had to do a lot of the work and guide me as well :shame: Thanks FH.
ATPG, i was inactive due to RL but i just managed to sneak in to send my orders based on what FH had said...even then i managed to mess up a couple of orders :shame:
The capos being killed so early helped me...i could afford to send AVSM fake investigation reports.:laugh4:
point to ponder for the future game with similar structure... i guess the game balance depends on the recruitable stoolie (as the late promotions mean 7/15 pro-town power roles and a couple of them had immunity as well)... if split was not one of my made men we might have made an arrest attempt on him... him being a made man under me removed the possibility of us going for him.
A Very Super Market
05-27-2009, 16:03
He-heh. I never did trust Atheotes. I just figured your investigation was an elaborate bluff, since most would be innocent anyways. Somehow, ATPG convinced me that beefy was a stoolie, and I killed him..... Sorry!
FactionHeir
05-27-2009, 19:52
I actually had some elaborate fake investigation PMs ready made (and one framing greyblades actually) based on our tier 3 investigations but atheotes had already sent you his version of the investigations (also fake and much briefer) and had also told you in the N6 one that grey was innocent.
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2009, 22:21
Somehow, ATPG convinced me that beefy was a stoolie, and I killed him..... Sorry!
Wait, I convinced you?
I thought I was the one arguing for Beefy's innocence and I basically refused to vote for him until it was clear that there would be no vote switching to atheotes.
Or maybe I just woke up and I'm misremembering.
navarro951
05-28-2009, 14:19
Im pretty sure, or at least I recall, being responsible for Beefys death. While everyone voted greyblades i elected for Beefy.
A Very Super Market
05-28-2009, 16:01
Well, both of you were doubting it, so I got paranoid. Plus, I somehow reasoned that we could go on without losing anyone if we lynched him. Apologies to everyone, especially Beefy. And myself.
Askthepizzaguy
05-28-2009, 16:09
That's Ok, we did well. Atheotes played a good game, and it ended in a draw. We did pretty well working as a team. pevergreen's investigations seemed legit to me, and I think enough of us (myself included) thought atheotes was a better lynch than beefy and that atheotes' investigation results may not have been trustworthy. We didn't do that bad, we just needed to protect the Don better and reason things out more and get less paranoid.
seireikhaan
05-28-2009, 22:21
I haven't deleted pm's since before capo II :bounce:
Holy moses! :shocked2:
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