Omertà: A small Mafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Prologue:

For Joseph D'Orazio, the time was finally about to come. After years of faithful service to his Don, Anthony Giampetro, he was about to be rewarded. Money, women, respect... in a few short minutes, these would all be his. He was about to become a Made man, a formally inducted member of the Catalano crime family.

Don Giampetro's inner circle was gathered in the parlor of one of their members' - Sal the Barber's - homes. This location was as inconspicuous as they could have hoped for. Sal never appeared in any trouble with the law, and his home was thus a low risk of a police bust. Ordinarily this induction ceremony would be performed in the Don's home, but alas, those days were far gone. The Cosa Nostra, long accustomed to the necessity of evolution for survival, had let this particular tradition fall to the wayside out of security reasons. The law enforcement agencies would give half their budgets in order to get an induction ceremony like this one on tape. No Don wanted to be in charge of the outfit responsible for making this practice known to the general world.

After much drinking and casual conversation, matters quickly became serious in Sal the Barber's parlor. Sal, getting a nod from the Don, told his wife to go take a drive and dimmed the parlor lights. Everybody took a seat at the large table, Don Giampetro on one end, Joseph D'Orazio at the other. All talk stopped.

"Joseph," the Don said, his soft voice carrying unnaturally in the silence. "Do you know why you are here?"

"No," Joseph lied. Induction ceremonies were supposed to be secret to the person being inducted, but word always leaked out.

"Take a look around the room," the Don said. "Do you know everybody in this parlor?"

"Yes."

"Are you on good terms with everybody in this room?"

"Yeah, we're all buddies here. All these guys are my pals," Joseph said, starting to sweat. He knew what was coming next. The other people in the room grinned and started nodding to each other.

"The reason why you're here, Joseph," Don Giampetro said, "is because we would like you to join this thing of ours. Everybody in this room has agreed that you've been a good friend over the years, and we would simply like to formalize this relationship. If you don't wish to join, that's fine; you can leave now and nothing will change, we'll have the same respect and friendship with you we've had before now. There won't be any hard feelings. Would you like to think about it?"

"No," said Joseph. "I want to join. I want to be a part of this thing we've got going on."

"Excellent," said the Don, although his face remained like stone. "I was hoping you'd agree. I, as well as the other people in this room, have been watching you over the years. You do good work, D'Orazio. We hope to continue this good relationship with you over the years." Joseph nodded. "However, there is still one matter to attain to. Hold out your right arm, trigger finger to me."

Joseph did as he was told. Grasping the arm, Don Giampetro took out a pin and a card - a picture of St. Francis of Assisi. Holding the pin, he pricked D'Orazio's finger so that a small trickle of blood came out. Everybody watched in silence as the blood slowly made its way down to St. Francis.

"Match," the Don said. He quickly received one. "Hold out your hand," he told D'Orazio. Joseph did so and the Don put the blooded card on the hand. "Repeat after me," he said, lighting the match and touching the card with it."

"May I burn like this Saint in Hell if I betray anyone in this room."

"May I burn like this Saint in Hell if I betray anyone in this room," Joseph said, as St. Francis smouldered. He was, now and forever, a full member of the Catalano family.

Game basics:

Welcome to Omertà, a small Mafia game, named after the infamous code of silence as outlined in the story above. Much of this game is based off of George Anastasia's book Blood and Honor, which I highly recommend and I hope to turn into a Large game one day far down the road. However, the names have been changed to protect the innoc... well, let's just say the names have been changed.

The main twist of this game is that the mafiosi are the good guys, while the one man in their outfit cooperating with the Feds is the villain, as he has broken the code of Omertà.

Rules:

Standard rules apply. No screenshots, no quoting PMs when dead, etc. "Abstain" and "No lynch" are both acceptable options, although it is entirely within my discretion as host to change the rules and what kind of votes I accept at any time.

Roles:

Each player will receive a PM with an individual character name as well as abilities, some of which are unique, some of which are not. Some players may have no abilities aside from the standard townie ones. I may eventually rework this post to provide more information about roles here. For now, Don Anthony Giampetro is the only role that is guaranteed to be on the mafia's (town's) side. The Don's powers include partial immunity.

Finally:

Have fun! :2thumbsup:

Signed up: (15/15)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
White_eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[A Very Super Market]

In?

[Greyblades]

In.

[Beefy187]

in:2thumbsup:

[Northnovas]

Very interesting and a small group. In!

[navarro951]

count my in GH!

[Tratorix]

In. :smash:

[Captain Blackadder]

In thank you

[pevergreen]

I shall pledge my time, if you shall have me.

[FactionHeir]

:grin2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

In.

[atheotes]

In. When do you plan to start?

[Splitpersonality]

In!

[GeneralHankerchief]

In. When do you plan to start?

A day or two.

A couple more, guys! :yes:

[White_eyes:D]

In.....anyone who breaks the code must be whacked:smoking:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In.

[ULC]

Nuts...I keep missing them...in if you can take me

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry YLC, this game was designed for 15. :sorry: I'll put you down as Replacement #1.

To the rest of you, PMs are going out in a couple of hours. :yes:

[Splitpersonality]

Awesome, can't wait!

:D


When I first read "Omerta" I thought immediately of This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QGa0ZK2gPI)

lol

[atheotes]

Sorry YLC, this game was designed for 15. :sorry: I'll put you down as Replacement #1.

To the rest of you, PMs are going out in a couple of hours. :yes:

yay! Looking forward to it... this is my second game and i hope i dont get as confused/lost as i have in Swords in the Moon....:dizzy2:

[Splitpersonality]

I hope I don't die night one like Swords in the Moon :clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

While I get the PMs rolling, here's the hierarchical structure of mafia families that I will be adhering to. There are two Stoolies that the "town" needs to root out. Any role aside from the Don role is eligible to be a Stoolie.

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/structure.jpg

[GeneralHankerchief]

All PMs have been sent out. As an FYI, the Stoolies have been given cover roles. Night 1 will end in 24-ish hours - all PMs are due by then.

Active: (15)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
White_eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro

Good luck and may the best mafioso win! :rifle:

[GeneralHankerchief]

And since my mind is apparently elsewhere, I forgot to mention that A Very Super Market is Don Giampetro.

[Greyblades]

Vote: no lynch
First day lynches usualy go wrong.

[GeneralHankerchief]

It's night. :wink:

[Greyblades]

Oh... awkward. :sweatdrop:

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote: no lynch
First day lynches usualy go wrong.

Well recently there seems to have being a spat of them going rather well.

[Splitpersonality]

Only a dirty mafia member would want to not lynch other dirty mafia members.

Oh wait <_<

[A Very Super Market]

Huh. I've been getting a lot of interesting roles lately.

[navarro951]

Huh. I've been getting a lot of interesting roles lately.

Indeed...Don :2thumbsup:

I am your loyal soldier

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night 1

The home of Geno Vetto (Beefy187) was heavily-fortified against invaders. Ever since the bloody war with the rival Cataldi family finished a few years ago, Geno took his security extremely seriously. Before, you could count on your home being a sanctuary, a place off-limits for all those who were out to kill you. Were you marked for death, your attacker would do the honorable thing and pick you off away from the eyes of your wife and kids. However, the old ways were dying. The breaking of Omertà was evidence enough to this fact.

One thing that a fortified house did not protect against, however, were policemen. A warrant could break down the mightiest of walls. Unluckily for Geno, it was such a police car that drove by in the night, stopping at his house for a very long time. Thinking this was the end, Geno was prepared, saying good-bye to his family.

Two cops exited the car and walked up Geno's driveway, ringing the doorbell. Before Geno could answer, it opened. Staring at the two cops through the doorway were four men wearing nice Italian suits and sunglasses.

"Mr. Vetto is currently receiving medical care on the premises," one of the men said. "His heart is very fragile for the time being and his doctor is worried that a sudden shock - such as seeing two policemen enter his house and come barging around - would send him into cardiac arrest. Please come back at a later time."

"I'm afraid that won't do, you dirty scumbags," the braver of the two officers said. "We have a warrant for his arrest, and we intend to carry it out." He took out the warrant and made it plain for all four men to see.

"And we have explicit doctor's orders that say that Geno Vetto is not to be moved," the lead mafioso in the doorway said. "Show 'em, boys." At that moment, all four men reached into their trenchcoats and pulled out a significant amount of weaponry. Aghast, the cops took several steps back. "Please come back at a later time," the lead mafioso said again, this time smirking.

The cops could do nothing but storm back to their car and drive off.

However, despite the victory he had won today, Don Giampetro was not in a good move. The police's move on Geno Vetto confirmed his fears. The Catalanos were being infiltrated from within. "Michael," he said to his Underboss, "Summon a meeting. I want everyone formally inducted into our family to attend. We need to talk about what's happened and what we need to do." Nodding, the Underboss departed, in order to arrange the meeting.

Later that day, in a secret location, the Don looked around the very large table at all of his friends. They all looked back at him. Someone, someone looking back at him this very instant, meant to betray him and turn him into the authorities. He took a long look, piercing deep into his comrades' eyes, and then sighed.

"Gentlemen," he said, "Take a look around. You all have been in this company before. It is among this particular group in which you first became a full part of this thing of ours, enjoying all the benefits and protection that we offered to you. Do you all remember what happened when you were first inducted? We asked you if you wanted to join, you said "yes", and then what? You swore an oath, that's what. On your very afterlives, you swore that you would never betray anyone else in the room.

"This code has been broken. We all have reason to believe that we have been infiltrated. Some dirty, no good stoolie, perhaps even two or three, have broken their word and all bonds of fellowship crafted amongst us these many years just to escape a little legal trouble. There can only be one punishment for this, and you all know what it is." All men nodded solemnly, as the Don continued. "I would have already acted on this matter, but I'm getting old, it seems, and my intuition is not what it used to be. I unfortunately cannot determine the identity of our Judas. However, that's why I have gathered you all here. Certainly the democratic, popular majority of you gentlemen, each of you incredibly intelligent, can sniff out the rat. Therefore, we shall take a vote. Whoever achieves the most votes shall have his career with the Catalanos, unfortunately, prematurely ended."

With that, everyone was silent for a minute. After that, deliberation slowly picked up.

Active: (15)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
White_eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro

It is now Day 1. Voting will last for around 24 hours.

[Splitpersonality]

Nice to see we haven't lost one tonight, this bodes well for our odds of finding the snitch.

[A Very Super Market]

Cops have got no respect these days....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Navarro

Do you guys think we should not discuss at all today and just vote navarro?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Post 33 has been updated with a post-attempt scene. :yes:

[Splitpersonality]

Blind navarro voting seems a wee bit suspicious...

[A Very Super Market]

Ha-ha-hah. It is suspicious! In fact, Navarro has actually had his name cleared already! Sasaki, you so crazy!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why is voting for Navarro suspicious?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ha-ha-hah. It is suspicious! In fact, Navarro has actually had his name cleared already! Sasaki, you so crazy!

That was beefy :book:

[A Very Super Market]

I never said I drew that information from the write-up....

[Greyblades]

This isnt going to be like the futurama game where the guy we are supposed to keep alive is mafi... is not town freindly is it?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I never said I drew that information from the write-up....

Hmm. I believe A Very Super Market is mafia.

If you have certain knowledge of nav's innocence surely you shouldn't share it?

[GeneralHankerchief]

where the guy we are supposed to keep alive is mafi... is not town freindly


Hmm. I believe A Very Super Market is mafia.

We're going to get a lot of mileage out of this, I can tell. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

And since my mind is apparently elsewhere, I forgot to mention that A Very Super Market is Don Giampetro.

Hi Sasaki. ~:wave:

Aren't we all mafia? Except for the squealers?

[Greyblades]

Navarro could be consigliere, seeing as they are the dons adviser he could be allowed to contact AVSM from the start.

[Splitpersonality]

AVSP is the biggest mafia guy in this whole game.

We should watch out for him :clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is entirely possible the Don has someone under him who can investigate, and told the Don of the results.

[A Very Super Market]

Only squealers would want to ask that question... Hmmm?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hi Sasaki. ~:wave:

Hello Pizza :stare:


Aren't we all mafia?

No. One of us is a traitor. Why would you suggest otherwise?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't suggest otherwise. Right after that, I said...

Nevermind. I see we're in the blind paranoia stage and nothing I say, even if it is patently obvious, will be accepted at face value.

[Greyblades]

No. One of us is a traitor. Why would you suggest otherwise?
What makes you so sure there is only one traitor?


Paranioa ho!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I didn't suggest otherwise. Right after that, I said...

Contradictory much?


Nevermind. I see we're in the blind paranoia stage and nothing I say, even if it is patently obvious, will be accepted at face value.

Do you?


What makes you so sure there is only one traitor?


Paranioa ho!

GH has referred to there being multiple traitors.

[Greyblades]

GH has referred to there being multiple traitors.
I know that, I asked why you seemed to think that.

Wait, he's avoiding the question, he must be mafia!:clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have a headache now, thanks Sasaki.

[Splitpersonality]

With all this suspicion flinging around I'm afraid to post and get caught in the crossfire.

Ah, no matter, the don and all of you know where my loyalties lie, regardless of this early paranoia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Do we, SplitPersonality? Do we?

[/Sasaki]

[Greyblades]

With all this suspicion flinging around I'm afraid to post and get caught in the crossfire.
You should be afraid, be very afraid :brood:

[Splitpersonality]

I was waiting for it, I tells ya I was!

Vote: Abstain

I believe we have no reason to jump the gun, not until the don can gather as much information as he can and make his judgement. I for one know nothing, and as of the 26th post since this day has begun, I have no reason to suspect anyone. This blind finger pointing will get us nowhere, we must not destroy ourselves but rather work as a family to root out those who wish to betray us.

[Greyblades]

After about 5-6 games I have found that the most funny posts are because of the blind finger pointing.
But what the heck vote: no lynch.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I know that, I asked why you seemed to think that.

Wait, he's avoiding the question, he must be mafia!:clown:

I was pointing out the contradiction inherent in your analysis.


Do we, SplitPersonality? Do we?

[/Sasaki]

Is this a cod?

[FactionHeir]

So, can we lynch Pizza as usual if we get no suspects?

Sasaki, can you explain why you want to lynch Navarro? That seems rather far-fetched to me since he hasn't even posted (and a few others haven't either :inquisitive:)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So, can we lynch Pizza as usual if we get no suspects?

Sasaki, can you explain why you want to lynch Navarro? That seems rather far-fetched to me since he hasn't even posted (and a few others haven't either :inquisitive:)

:inquisitive:

[FactionHeir]

My mistake, I missed the :clown:. Fact is, Pizza has yet to offer himself up this time around, which is suspicious. Navarro not even posting doesn't seem quite as suspicious to me.

[Beefy187]

I want to thank those who protected me from the hands of those dirty cops :bow:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My mistake, I missed the :clown:. Fact is, Pizza has yet to offer himself up this time around, which is suspicious. Navarro not even posting doesn't seem quite as suspicious to me.

Navarro lurks all the time so he is a good lynch. Pizza gets himself lynched at inopportune moments so he is a good lynch.

[Splitpersonality]

Split has been killed off in every other game, so he is a good lynch :clown:

On an unrelated note, Navarro's post count is now 1337. Maybe that's why he's not posting. :P

[FactionHeir]

So is Sasaki a good lynch for the mafia rules and I a good lynch because I like to analyze night actions?
Or rather, should we just all tie each other up with votes and get lynched together so that only our Don survives? :clown:

And why do I think that you are PK all the time....

[Beefy187]

So is Sasaki a good lynch for the mafia rules and I a good lynch because I like to analyze night actions?
Or rather, should we just all tie each other up with votes and get lynched together so that only our Don survives? :clown:

And why do I think that you are PK all the time....

Hey yea! They do have the same avater :laugh4:

[Tratorix]

Hopefully Beefy surviving will be a good omen for this game. Now we have a second player who is pretty much confirmed innocent.

Vote: Shinseikhaan

I don't like abstaining. :sweatdrop:

[Captain Blackadder]

Hopefully Beefy surviving will be a good omen for this game. Now we have a second player who is pretty much confirmed innocent.

Vote: Shinseikhaan

I don't like abstaining. :sweatdrop:


Beefy is not necessarily innocent there are many games where the Mafia target themselves for example in tree house of horror I was attacked night one and i was one of the biggest Mafia figures in the game. So whilst I won't vote for beefy this round at some point he should be lynched unless we are given more evidence to his innocence then just being attacked.

vote no lynch

[FactionHeir]

Are you trying to finish the job you didn't succeed on like that? :inquisitive:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe I "offered myself up for a lynch" when I signed up for the game. Game would get awfully boring if I did the same thing every game, if we all did. First lynch: Pizzaguy, because that's what he wants. Second lynch: Sasaki, because the rules say so. Third lynch: Beefy, because he's been mafia a lot lately. Fourth lynch: Boudica, if she were playing, because she's always mafia. Fifth... And so on, so that way, in future games we can recruit henchmen and know they will survive. And best of all, we don't have to think, we just automatically go with historical precedent.

"Didn't offer himself up for a lynch..." :laugh4: Well to be fair, you didn't get the message because I didn't send it to you, FactionHeir. But yes, indeed I already offered myself up for a lynch to the only person whose opinion matters to me at the moment, as I "always" do.

:medievalcheers: Cheers.

[White_eyes:D]

Hmmm......Vote:no lynch I am going to wait and see....:smoking:

[Beefy187]

Beefy is not necessarily innocent there are many games where the Mafia target themselves for example in tree house of horror I was attacked night one and i was one of the biggest Mafia figures in the game. So whilst I won't vote for beefy this round at some point he should be lynched unless we are given more evidence to his innocence then just being attacked.

vote no lynch

As long as lynching me doesn't happen like next round, or the round after, I'm fine with that.

I am confident that I could provide enough evidence that I didn't fake the attack in few rounds time.

Vote: Abstain

For now.

[White_eyes:D]

I am going to speak in ATPG-like clues.....it makes it funny to see the stitch's struggle:beam:
Did you tip the Pizza guy?<-----directed at Sasaki:clown:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So is Sasaki a good lynch for the mafia rules


Second lynch: Sasaki, because the rules say so.

This is a remarkable misreading of the rule.


I believe I "offered myself up for a lynch" when I signed up for the game. Game would get awfully boring if I did the same thing every game, if we all did. First lynch: Pizzaguy, because that's what he wants.

...

Third lynch: Beefy, because he's been mafia a lot lately. Fourth lynch: Boudica, if she were playing, because she's always mafia. Fifth... And so on, so that way, in future games we can recruit henchmen and know they will survive. And best of all, we don't have to think, we just automatically go with historical precedent.

"Didn't offer himself up for a lynch..." :laugh4: Well to be fair, you didn't get the message because I didn't send it to you, FactionHeir. But yes, indeed I already offered myself up for a lynch to the only person whose opinion matters to me at the moment, as I "always" do.

:medievalcheers: Cheers.

Unvote:Navarro
Vote:Askthepizzaguy

This reads a bit like a mafioso frustrated that his past tactics are coming back to bite him.

[atheotes]

Interesting start...


Beefy is not necessarily innocent there are many games where the Mafia target themselves for example in tree house of horror I was attacked night one and i was one of the biggest Mafia figures in the game. So whilst I won't vote for beefy this round at some point he should be lynched unless we are given more evidence to his innocence then just being attacked.

vote no lynch

I thought we now have 2 confirmed innocents :juggle2:... if the mafia target themselves how can they survive? :inquisitive: cant the mafia kill themselves?

i will abstain from voting for now.

[pevergreen]

It was the police raiding beefy, so he isnt the betrayor.

I think atpg is innocent, but :shrug:


Vote: Atheotes

Hello there.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think atpg is innocent, but :shrug:

.

No specifics, apathetic shrug, this is round 1 evidence of you being atpg's partner.

[GeneralHankerchief]

The Stoolies call in the cops to make arrests.

[Greyblades]

Well why dont we all just stand at the front door and grin menacingly every time the cops come round and not let them take any of us?

[Askthepizzaguy]

No specifics, apathetic shrug, this is round 1 evidence of you being atpg's partner.

Yes, you're right. We are that incompetent as players. :laugh4: I admire your ability to vote for whomever you want and invent plausible reasoning as to why. I think I kind of know by now, Sasaki, that the more I talk, the more votes I get.

I do think it's odd pever thinks I am innocent, as I am a mafia scumbag who is loyal to the Don. However, if that's what he meant, he is right. I'm a pointless round one lynch, and we can't really afford to waste too many of them in a smaller game, but go right ahead.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I do think it's odd pever thinks I am innocent, as I am a mafia scumbag who is loyal to the Don. However, if that's what he meant, he is right. I'm a pointless round one lynch, and we can't really afford to waste too many of them in a smaller game, but go right ahead.

What? You do think it's odd that pever thinks you are innocent, but...he's right that you are a pointless round one lynch? You're only a pointless round one lynch if you are innocent, so we are back to square one, why does he think you're innocent?

[Askthepizzaguy]

What? You do think it's odd that pever thinks you are innocent, but...he's right that you are a pointless round one lynch? You're only a pointless round one lynch if you are innocent, so we are back to square one, why does he think you're innocent?

Because he's my mafia partner and your fantastic skills figured it out. ~:pimp:

Edit: GG everyone.

[Northnovas]

Okay I see we are on our way with the usual first round analysis!
The first night action was targeting Beefy but he obviously had some protection that is why he wasn't taken away by the police. That looks favourable to him of not being a stoolie unless he set himself up knowing he had protection????
Us mafia guys can be sneaky.

It's only the first round I just can't give a vote. (yet)

Vote: Abstain

[navarro951]

Vote: Abstain

To early to tell

[FactionHeir]

This has got to be the mafia game with the most round 1 abstains I have ever seen :grin:

vote: no lynch

Don't want to accidentally lynch any mafia member, right?

Tally:
ATPG: Sasaki
Atheotes: pever
khaan: BSR
Abstain: Split, Beef, Northnovas, navarro
No lynch: Greyblades, Blackadder, WE, FH
Not voting: everyone else

[Askthepizzaguy]

The BSR bit had me confused. I've only ever known him as Tratorix. :shame: (stop reminding me I'm not nearly as veteran as you guys! :bigcry:)

Still waiting on a certain someone to post something. ~:pimp:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Because he's my mafia partner and your fantastic skills figured it out. ~:pimp:

Edit: GG everyone.

A confession?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

[FactionHeir]

Voting yourself when no lynch already leads by 3 points? :no:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Weren't you the one who complained I hadn't offered myself up for a lynch? And if we aren't lynching anyone, why do you begrudge me my attempts to have fun in my own pizzaguy-ish way?

:bounce:

See I'm clearly offering myself now, because it is safe to do so. There won't be a sudden massive bandwagon on poor ole pizzaguy...

[FactionHeir]

Well, I'd vote you just for this, but then I'd the third on your bandwagon and get one on me instead :grin2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Come ON! I even used the suspicious ellipsis... you know you want to.

Third on the bandwagon! Third on the bandwagon! One of us! One of us!




:bounce:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We should lynch today. We want the final round to be an odd number. It's better to go down to 3 instead of 4, gives us a 33% chance instead of 25%.

Plus, lynching has a chance at getting a mafioso, and pizza is acting scummy.

[Splitpersonality]

Then again we shouldn't let it come down to that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

We should lynch today. We want the final round to be an odd number. It's better to go down to 3 instead of 4, gives us a 33% chance instead of 25%.

Plus, lynching has a chance at getting a mafioso, and pizza is acting scummy.

Now THIS is some scummy reasoning, actually. you have no way of knowing how the game will unfold or if additional murders will be blocked. Sasaki, you're better than this. I know you like to lynch me, and it may come to that, but you're going after someone I happen to know is not a stoolie, and not only that, you're latching on and not giving very good reasons why I must die. You keep acting like you know what you're doing, but it is an act and nothing more, if you are on our side. Uninformed majority and all that. On my list of suspects I can cross off three people, and you're not one of them.

I'll tell you what. We can lynch me, but then, we have to lynch you. Fair trade?

[GeneralHankerchief]

The lynch may be an hour or three behind schedule, as I'll be at a Phillies game for a few hours today.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Now THIS is some scummy reasoning, actually. you have no way of knowing how the game will unfold or if additional murders will be blocked. Sasaki, you're better than this. I know you like to lynch me, and it may come to that, but you're going after someone I happen to know is not a stoolie, and not only that, you're latching on and not giving very good reasons why I must die. You keep acting like you know what you're doing, but it is an act and nothing more, if you are on our side. Uninformed majority and all that. On my list of suspects I can cross off three people, and you're not one of them.

I'll tell you what. We can lynch me, but then, we have to lynch you. Fair trade?

No, this is nonsense. Murders are usually not blocked, the odds are favor of them not being blocked. Therefore it is to our advantage to make a lynch--not only do we get a shot at mafia (which is worth it even at random chance), but it gets us to an odd number of people which will probably be in our favor.

I get a scummy feel from your posts (I hope you aren't trying to disprove gut instinct) and you voted yourself when the "no lynch" votes are ahead. Now you argue with me when I say no lynch is a good idea, but suggest a lynch anyway. I said before that your posts read as if you felt trapped by your past suicidal behavior, your grasping at a lynch-for-a-lynch idea is in that same vein.

Now, your accusation that this evidence is not strong is canceled out by the fact that it's round one, that you haven't gone after random votes with less reasoning, and that your accusations of me are weak: "I can't cross you off my suspect list", really? That's why you want me lynched?

I think you have a very good chance at being mafia compared to everyone else so far.

[Askthepizzaguy]

No, this is nonsense. Murders are usually not blocked, the odds are favor of them not being blocked. Therefore it is to our advantage to make a lynch--not only do we get a shot at mafia (which is worth it even at random chance), but it gets us to an odd number of people which will probably be in our favor.

I get a scummy feel from your posts (I hope you aren't trying to disprove gut instinct) and you voted yourself when the "no lynch" votes are ahead. Now you argue with me when I say no lynch is a good idea, but suggest a lynch anyway. I said before that your posts read as if you felt trapped by your past suicidal behavior, your grasping at a lynch-for-a-lynch idea is in that same vein.

Now, your accusation that this evidence is not strong is canceled out by the fact that it's round one, that you haven't gone after random votes with less reasoning, and that your accusations of me are weak: "I can't cross you off my suspect list", really? That's why you want me lynched?

I think you have a very good chance at being mafia compared to everyone else so far.

Oh noes, he's got me. Welp, looks like my goose is cooked. You're right, I am trapped by past suicidal behavior. So much so that I couldn't possibly behave any other way, even though it's just a game. Or perhaps I recognize that scumbags, in a quest to get rid of townies when no lynch is the popular choice, will latch on to the very easiest target, and so I presented myself as such and tried to goad people into voting for me. Also known as a baiting tactic.

:fishing:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Your tone here is a lot closer to inishmore than to swords in the moon.

[Tratorix]

Oh noes, he's got me. Welp, looks like my goose is cooked. You're right, I am trapped by past suicidal behavior. So much so that I couldn't possibly behave any other way, even though it's just a game. Or perhaps I recognize that scumbags, in a quest to get rid of townies when no lynch is the popular choice, will latch on to the very easiest target, and so I presented myself as such and tried to goad people into voting for me. Also known as a baiting tactic.

:fishing:

You're getting very defensive about this. Sasaki always jumps on little things in the first few rounds, since there's not really any evidence. Why do you feel the need to write a paragraph to rebut every post he makes?

[atheotes]

It was the police raiding beefy, so he isnt the betrayor.

I think atpg is innocent, but :shrug:


Vote: Atheotes

Hello there.

huh. :huh:..care to explain the vote pevergreen? till you answer...

Vote: pevergreen

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

Lousy Phillies... this is like the 7th or 8th game in a row I've been to where they've lost. :furious3:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 1

"Very well," said Don Giampetro after several hours of discussion. "It appears that not all of you share my paranoia over this situation and do not wish to make somebody pay for their actions... yet. While I disagree with this, I am a Don that listens to the advice and opinions of his men. Therefore, we will not terminate anybody's membership tonight. You may all go back to your homes. Sleep well and hope that nobody sends in the cops after you."

Everybody breathed a sigh of relief and departed the meeting place... until the next day.

Day 1 tally:

No Lynch: 4 (Greyblades, Blackadder, White_eyes, FactionHeir)
Askthepizzaguy: 2 (Sasaki, ATPG)
Shinseikhaan: 1 (Tratorix)
atheotes: 1 (pevergreen)
pevergreen: 1 (atheotes)

Abstained: 4 (Split, Beefy, Northnovas, navarro)

~~~~~~~~~

Active: (15)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
White_eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro

It is now night, lasting for 24-ish hours. I need orders. :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your tone here is a lot closer to inishmore than to swords in the moon.

:shrug: I'm not roleplaying a weakling wannabe swordsman who is more interested in following orders than defending himself.


You're getting very defensive about this. Sasaki always jumps on little things in the first few rounds, since there's not really any evidence. Why do you feel the need to write a paragraph to rebut every post he makes?

I like to encourage discussion. And I always talk this much, just about everyone here can attest to that. Yet another reason why I'm a popular lynch choice. :bounce:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Maybe I missed something. Is AVSM not allowed to vote?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nope, AVSM has full voting privileges attributed to him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't even see him listed under "abstain" so I was wondering.

[FactionHeir]

I think you actually have to vote abstain to count as abstain. Posting but not voting = no vote.
Don't think it matters in AVSM's case though since GH probably won't WoGH the Don :grin:

[Splitpersonality]

What's the difference between abstain and no vote?

[Greyblades]

Abstain is a "I dont know who to vote for" vote and no lynch is a "I dont want anyone lynched this turn" vote.

[navarro951]

Hmm, the only people i find suspicious are the people who have already voted just for kicks, they either have it out for someone to make it easy for them to snitch on, or they are just hoping they got the rat, im going with the latter but just cant decide which one.

[Northnovas]

There is one who did not vote at all this round. That could be suspicious?

[navarro951]

There is one who did not vote at all this round. That could be suspicious?

True, could be attempting to lay low.

[Beefy187]

True, could be attempting to lay low.

Or he could be AVSM.. The Don.

[navarro951]

Or he could be AVSM.. The Don.

The don gets no vote?

[pevergreen]

Reading the game helps.

:yes:

Don gets to vote. Not voting at all draws more suspicion than voting for someone.

OMGUS votes are not great form, but I enjoy them.

[A Very Super Market]

Sorry, I put off voting on the first day, but neglected to remember that I had a road trip the next. Believe me, I'm not going to try and lurk my way as don....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm, no lynch was not a good idea.

[navarro951]

hmm, no lynch was not a good idea.

whys that?

[White_eyes:D]

hmm, no lynch was not a good idea.

Here is another code for Sasaki....Did you catch a snitch, with the 6 to 3?:inquisitive:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night 2

It had been a harrowing day for most all of the inducted members of the Catalano family, Johnny Morganti (White_eyes:D) included. As someone who had slightly more responsibility than just following orders, someone charged with keeping track of men under him, he was feeling the weariness more than most.

Fighting the temptation to head straight home and go to bed, Johnny instead, as custom, went over with his men the details of the most recent events and handed down new orders. Finally, his eyes barely able to stay open, he ordered one of his men to drive him home and stumbled through the front door, collapsing onto his bed. He would get a good sleep tonight, yes.

Dead to the world for several hours, Johnny finally stirred later when a piercing siren broke the night's silence. Dismissing it, he quickly grew accustomed to the siren's noise and easily slid back to the world of dreams and stillness. However, a minute later, he was finally roused for good by the sound of his door crashing open. Dazed, Johnny didn't know how to react, only able to hear the sound of footsteps getting closer and closer.

Eventually, two policemen found his bedroom and of course him, holding his hands over his ears, still not quite fully awake.

"Johnny Morganti," said the lead cop, snapping handcuffs on, "You're under arrest for murder, armed robbery, and racketeering. You have the right to remain silent, and anything you say or do can be held against you in the court of law. You have the right to counsel..."

Johnny cursed under his breath, drowning out the cop's droning. There would be no nice, warm bed for him tonight.

Later that day, Don Giampetro, disturbed about the night's events, once again summoned the inducted members to a council, in the same secret location as the day before.

"Well gentlemen," he said, "Unfortunately for all of us, it appears as if I was correct and we do have a Stoolie or two among us. Therefore, there should not be much more dawdling. Please discuss amongst yourselves as before and present me a decision. I do not wish for the harassment and arrest of my men to continue for much longer."

Active: (14)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sasaki Kojiro

Arrested:
White_eyes:D

[pevergreen]

Vote: Sasaki

[FactionHeir]

Any reason?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not sure why you'd expect reasons at this stage. We need to narrow down the suspect list and attempt to hit a mafioso. No Lynches will just allow the mafia to destroy us one at a time and we miss out on chances to hit them back. I tend to agree with Sasaki that last round's No Lynch was foolish, fuzzy math aside. You have to figure us wiseguys have a limited number of bullets to take out the traitors, and every bullet we waste is another proven mafia dead that night. We might miss and hit a mafioso, but the traitors won't miss; they WILL hit a mafioso. Our best chance is to take our chances and murdalyze someone.

No comment from Greyblades, NorthNovas, Navarro, Blackadder, or Split; all of them having been active since the writeup. Interesting.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: NorthNovas

Too tuckered out from a night full of snitching to speak to us now, eh NorthNovas?

[Beefy187]

Vote: pever

just a gut feeling

[FactionHeir]

Your post was a very enjoyable read in that you referred to everyone as a mafioso :grin:

I'm of two minds about the no-lynch option though - on the one hand, it gives us additional time for discussion and possibly investigation, while on the other hand of course it allows the stoolies to take us out without a risk of them being lynched.

While Sasaki is correct in saying that having an odd number is preferrable, voting no lynch for 2 days does the same, and gives us a net of +1 round.

That is of course assuming we do indeed have a detective who can use that extra time.
What we do know is that we have a protector, so he could keep the detective alive should we have one.

[pevergreen]

Unvote: Sasaki, Vote: Beefy197

Yeah thats right. Plus you stole my pants.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your post was a very enjoyable read in that you referred to everyone as a mafioso :grin:

Hey, my role PM said I was a mafioso, and in parentheses, it said standard townie role. So the townies are the mafia and the mafia are stoolies working with the cops, which basically makes them townies, and even if they are stoolies, they still work for the mafia, just in traitorous fashion.

So, yes... we are all mafioso in this game. I was technically correct. just very confusing.

Who's Beefy197?

[FactionHeir]

Beefy197 = Beefy187 after eating too much

Any thoughts on the rest of my post? ~:)

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm very much against wasting our lynches. We have people already who are proven or suspected innocent, and some people who can defend themselves from murder. I say if we are going to "waste" anything it should be the traitors, via lynch.

I don't know if we have an investigator or not, but every night phase is almost for certain a dead "townie". I'd prefer that half of the deaths this game come from our own decisions and detective work, not from the cops picking us off one by one.

[Greyblades]

Night 2

It had been a harrowing day for most all of the inducted members of the Catalano family, Johnny Morganti (White_eyes:D) included. As someone who had slightly more responsibility than just following orders, someone charged with keeping track of men under him, he was feeling the weariness more than most.

Fighting the temptation to head straight home and go to bed, Johnny instead, as custom, went over with his men the details of the most recent events and handed down new orders. Finally, his eyes barely able to stay open, he ordered one of his men to drive him home and stumbled through the front door, collapsing onto his bed. He would get a good sleep tonight, yes.

Dead to the world for several hours, Johnny finally stirred later when a piercing siren broke the night's silence. Dismissing it, he quickly grew accustomed to the siren's noise and easily slid back to the world of dreams and stillness. However, a minute later, he was finally roused for good by the sound of his door crashing open. Dazed, Johnny didn't know how to react, only able to hear the sound of footsteps getting closer and closer.

Eventually, two policemen found his bedroom and of course him, holding his hands over his ears, still not quite fully awake.

"Johnny Morganti," said the lead cop, snapping handcuffs on, "You're under arrest for murder, armed robbery, and racketeering. You have the right to remain silent, and anything you say or do can be held against you in the court of law. You have the right to counsel..."

Johnny cursed under his breath, drowning out the cop's droning. There would be no nice, warm bed for him tonight.

Later that day, Don Giampetro, disturbed about the night's events, once again summoned the inducted members to a council, in the same secret location as the day before.

"Well gentlemen," he said, "Unfortunately for all of us, it appears as if I was correct and we do have a Stoolie or two among us. Therefore, there should not be much more dawdling. Please discuss amongst yourselves as before and present me a decision. I do not wish for the harassment and arrest of my men to continue for much longer."

Active: (14)
Shinseikhaan
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sasaki Kojiro

Arrested:
White_eyes:D

Hmm. I was kinda hoping for something that would count as a clue, or at least something a little more blatant.


I don't know if we have an investigator or not, but every night phase is almost for certain a dead "townie". I'd prefer that half of the deaths this game come from our own decisions and detective work, not from the cops picking us off one by one.

The host did say there would be several unique roles, several meaning more than 2 or 3 I think that means that there are more roles than just the 2-3 squealers. I'm guessing that seeing as investigator roles are the simplest role available there is going to be at least one in this game, or this games equivelant seeing as he did say they would be unique. I could be wrong though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hmm. I was kinda hoping for something that would count as a clue, or at least something a little more blatant.

Many hosts post no clues at all, especially if there is a detective. GH is "old school" and may not leave any clues.


The host did say there would be several unique roles, several meaning more than 2 or 3 I think that means that there are more roles than just the 2-3 squealers. I'm guessing that seeing as investigator roles are the simplest role available there is going to be at least one in this game, or this games equivelant seeing as he did say they would be unique. I could be wrong though.

My guess is some of the higher ups have defensive abilities. But in a game this small an investigator might be overpowered. Though I did consider the possibility of a detective earlier on in the game I think. We should proceed as if there isn't a detective, though; we can't count on one and one lucky shot means he's dead anyway.

Keep the game simple: you vote and you lynch a mafia. Unless there are lots and lots of power roles which can act against the cops as a group, which would also be overpowered, and seeing as this is a GH-style game I would say the odds of that are like the odds of me being quiet; we should pick someone and lynch them. Don't waste rounds, be they game turns or bullets.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think I'll go with pevergreen and pizza as mafia buddies.

vote:pevergreen

[FactionHeir]

pever's random voting does seem scummy, but that seems to be normal behavior for him. I'm more interested in hearing from the many lurkers we have around here.

vote: khaan

You have not even posted since the game started...

[seireikhaan]

Vote: FactionHeir :bigcry:

[GeneralHankerchief]

One note about balancing, the mafia don't need to kill/arrest everybody to win. All they need to do is get the Don out of the picture. That said, it's going to be pretty difficult to do that without killing/arresting a lot of people first. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think I'll go with pevergreen and pizza as mafia buddies.

vote:pevergreen

Well, you get one entirely wrong theory in your head, and you won't let it go. Hopefully when we are both dead and snickering a little bit (what, no kit kats?) you'll come up with plan B.

Question for pevergreen though: Why are you voting for beefy after the cops tried to arrest him?

[Splitpersonality]

For the record I've been in school, I had no reason to comment thusfar. It stinks what happened to Johnny, and that's why we're here, to stop it from happening, I've just had no input thusfar.

Sorry guys, I'm pretty in the dark about things right now.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, you get one entirely wrong theory in your head, and you won't let it go.


Not sure why you'd expect reasons at this stage. We need to narrow down the suspect list and attempt to hit a mafioso.
~:rolleyes:~:rolleyes:~:rolleyes:




Hopefully when we are both dead and snickering a little bit (what, no kit kats?) you'll come up with plan B.

Why do you say pevergreen will be snickering? You couldn't possibly know his role. Why did he say he thought you were innocent yesterday?

That's a definite connection--and since your tone is completely off my theory has a solid basis. Given the quote from you above and your vote for north, any complaint from you about my suspicions is hypocrisy :wings:

[Askthepizzaguy]

~:rolleyes:~:rolleyes:~:rolleyes:

Why do you say pevergreen will be snickering? You couldn't possibly know his role. Why did he say he thought you were innocent yesterday?

That's a definite connection--and since your tone is completely off my theory has a solid basis. Given the quote from you above and your vote for north, any complaint from you about my suspicions is hypocrisy :wings:

You're right. Tell you what; I'll vote for pevergreen today and we'll lynch him, and tomorrow we can lynch me. And then I will giggle at you. :bounce:

unvote, vote: pevergreen

[FactionHeir]

Either you are really brave or pever is not your partner :yes:

[Tratorix]

Vote: Khaan

There's already enough votes on pevergreen and khaan seems to be lurking thus far which is usually his MO when he's mafia. Or, not mafia in this case. :dizzy2:

[Greyblades]

Hmm I would like to make a more informed vote I cannot get over that khaan, only ten minutes after being called out for lurking, just did a OMGUS vote and left it at that.
Vote: Khaan

[atheotes]

hmm... khaan's reflex vote and lursking aside.... not much to go against anyone...
Vote : Abstain

[pevergreen]

Oh you best be joking ATPG

Unvote: Beefy, Vote: ATPG

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Khaan 3, pever 3, atpg 1.

maybe a little to risky for mafia partners

Unvote:pevergreen, vote:Askthepizzaguy

Yesterday I was suspicious of pizza's behavior, and of a possible link between the two. Pizza seemed resigned, and offered a double lynch--me and him. Today he offers pever and himself. Maybe he's resigned but wants to take someone down with him. Either way he's the better choice.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote: Shinseikhaan.

Because I'm a mafia scumbag, obviously, and oh-so afraid of a two person bandwagon.

[navarro951]

Hmm..despite his pointing out my recent quietness, i feel that ATPG is no snitch at the moment.

I have to go with FactionHeir. My reasoning is simply that he discussed to well why we should no lynch. Buy time? Or let a snitch take us down one by one.

Vote: FactionHeir

P.S. I am studying for finals at the moment so if i am of and on it is you own bad judgement to convict me of being a stoolie. I got the same message ATPG, mafioso soldier(townie). And i agree with you that our higher ups probably have a power of some sort, but i think that GH may of made this game interesting by making one of those very ranking men of honor a snitch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I think Sasaki should go next round.

[navarro951]

I think Sasaki should go next round.

hmm, idk any reasoning behind that?

[Askthepizzaguy]

hmm, idk any reasoning behind that?

Yes, and I'll tell you why later. For now I'll use the excuse that Reenk often uses: he's opposing me. :bounce:

[navarro951]

Yes, and I'll tell you why later. For now I'll use the excuse that Reenk often uses: he's opposing me. :bounce:

Sounds good, im just waiting for the first person to reveal themselves, I would but i feel that it would make me an easier arrest for one of these squealers.

[Askthepizzaguy]

if you're claiming to be who I think you are, then someone is lying. Contact me privately.

[A Very Super Market]

I reveal.... I am the Don!!!

The other accused have all revealed to myself already. The only one still unknown is Khaan, which is why I vote for him.

Vote: Khaan


Khaan- 5
ATPG- 2
Pever- 1
Factionheir- 1

[Sasaki Kojiro]

hmm, private reveals? You always have to consider the fake pm option as well. Mafia with fakes are often eager to share them.

fos:pizza,pever,FH

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm so going to have you arrested tonight, Sasaki. :clown:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm so going to have you arrested tonight, Sasaki. :clown:

Why do you enjoy acting victimized?

[Beefy187]

hmm, private reveals? You always have to consider the fake pm option as well. Mafia with fakes are often eager to share them.

fos:pizza,pever,FH

I agree with Sasaki here.

We could lynch Khaan for the round. But we can't blindly follow the private reveals too long. Theres a good chance for the traitors to have some fake pms

[GeneralHankerchief]

Voting closed.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why do you enjoy acting victimized?

Because I'm melodramatic. :drama2: It's all part of the head game I play, indeed, my cunning master plan wherein I reveal you all to the cops... I mean, serve the Don faithfully. Hopefully I won't get lynched next round. :sweatdrop:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Because I'm melodramatic. :drama2: It's all part of the head game I play, indeed, my cunning master plan wherein I reveal you all to the cops... I mean, serve the Don faithfully. Hopefully I won't get lynched next round. :sweatdrop:

How would we ever find the stoolies if whenever someone was accused they went off into dramatics and voted themselves and acted suspicious while sarcastically saying "see I must be guilty"!

[Askthepizzaguy]

How would we ever find the stoolies if whenever someone was accused they went off into dramatics and voted themselves and acted suspicious while sarcastically saying "see I must be guilty"!

With great zeal and gusto, and perhaps more prudent choices for the lynch than myself. :laugh2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day 2

"All right gentlemen," Don Giampetro said after several hours' worth of discussion. "It looks like you have identified Angelo Cifelli (Shinseikhaan) as our saboteur and Stoolie among us. Is this correct?"

Everybody went around the table and agreed, although some people were more sullen than others. Despite the fact that these people were the scum of society, they were still honorable men and would go with the decided outcome no matter their personal feelings on the matter. Anyway, everybody went around and agreed - save for Angelo himself, who had his head down on the table, snoozing.

A few people grimaced, especially the three men under him. He had been like this the other day, except for a brief 30-second period in which his name had first been brought up, he shouted that this was an attack on his integrity and named his accuser, and then promptly went back to sleep. Naturally, his defense hadn't done much in the ways of convincing people.

"Angelo," the Don said, still to no response. Whispering in his Underboss's ear, the big man nodded, got up, walked over to Angelo's seat, and grabbed the man by the collar, bringing his head down on the table once. Angelo, while suffering a broken nose due to the impact, was at least now fully awake. "Angelo," the Don said again, this time to an attentive audience, "You have been found to have betrayed the Catalano family. You know what we need to do next. Is there anything you would like to say before we do it?"

Angelo didn't (couldn't?) say anything, only rubbing his nose with his hands and starting to get water in his eyes.

"Very well. Rocco! Moose!" he said to his extremely imposing bodyguards. "Take this guy for a ride." The two men nodded and grabbed Angelo on his way out. Without waiting for the bodyguards to return (what was the point? It wasn't like Angelo was coming back), the Don signaled that the meeting was at an end.

"Let us hope that we may resume our usual business tomorrow," the Don said.

Day 2 tally:

Shinseikhaan: 5 (FactionHeir, Tratorix, Greyblades, ATPG, AVSM) :skull:
ATPG: 2 (pevergreen, Sasaki)
FactionHeir: 2 (Shinseikhaan, navarro)
pevergreen: 1 (Beefy)

Abstained: 1 (atheotes)

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Active: (13)
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sasaki Kojiro

Arrested:
White_eyes:D

Executed:
Shinseikhaan

Orders please. :yes:

[Greyblades]

Ouch, the writeup just about makes me pity the guy.

So, what was he a squealer or townie, or are you not telling us the roles ofthe dead in this game?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Reveal roles?

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Sorry, but you never get it this easy in my games. If you want to win you're going to have to work for it. :yes:

[Northnovas]

Ah crap I missed the vote!
Longer day then I wanted. :furious3:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ah crap I missed the vote!
Longer day then I wanted. :furious3:

Showed up just in time for a-snitchin' though. :smoking:

[Northnovas]

I maybe a lot of things abut I am no stoolie!!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

*turns to a henchman*

Perhaps we should have this wiseguy followed, to... ensure his loyalties are genuine.

[Northnovas]

Loyalty runs through my blood and sweat and I would not be where I am with out it.

I would just like to add the obvious about the past 2 nights.
Night 1 there was protection of some sort and Night 2 it was only after he was alone the police showed up. Could we be dealing with one or two stool pidgeons with a small group?

[White_eyes:D]

*turns to a henchman*

Perhaps we should have this wiseguy followed, to... ensure his loyalties are genuine.

ATPG guy is a snitch.....I can't post the results though.....:brood: GET HIM NEXT ROUND.....:whip:(sorry I have been busy......short day though....:shrug:)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Could we be dealing with one or two stool pidgeons with a small group?

Probably one or two, or perhaps three stoolies from what I understand, but what small group are you referring to?

[White_eyes:D]

Probably one or two, or perhaps three stoolies from what I understand, but what small group are you referring to?

"I trusted you ATPG......" *shakes ATPG* "You broke my heart.....you broke my heart":shame:

[A Very Super Market]

Ah, so White Eyes was a stoolie?

[Askthepizzaguy]

:applause: Bravo.

Should I just sit back and watch this plan fall flat on it's face? I guess White Eyes was the stoolie after all. I have to say though, that is pretty clever.

[White_eyes:D]

Ah, so White Eyes was a stoolie?

.......*faceplam*......clearly this "Mademan" need a slap up side his head:rolleyes:

[White_eyes:D]

How could I be a stoolie if I went to prison?:dizzy2::dizzy2:

[A Very Super Market]

*Facepalm* at the mispelling of "facepalm"

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you're in prison, why are you here insulting the Don and besmirching my good name with a false detective claim?

[Northnovas]

When I was referring to small group I meant the amount of players in the game. Did I stumble across something else???

[Greyblades]

I'm confused, did we get a stoolie or not?

[White_eyes:D]

I can't say anything other then Pizza guy is a stoolie:bow: My loyal henchmen know what to do....:bow:
Thank you ATPG.....you just incrimated yourself....:yes::clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

When I was referring to small group I meant the amount of players in the game. Did I stumble across something else???

Yes. A White_Eyes plan gone horribly, horribly wrong. I foresee much frustration in his direction when the game is over. Much grinding and gnashing of teeth, and many rolling eyes as well. Since he's damaged my credibility and doomed our next round's lynch choice, I might as well enjoy myself and point out that even if he were a detective, he's an insane or paranoid one, which I tried to tell him.

This is fun though. Since this gambit won't actually fool the real traitors here, it will become legendary, and it will become it's own term. From now on "Pulling a Spartan" will be called "Pulling a White_Eyes"

[White_eyes:D]

No......I know you sold me out......only a few people can do that.....:smash: and the other guys checked out.....but I was cautious of you to begin with.....didn't want to lynch a loyal "Made man":no:

[Askthepizzaguy]

No......I know you sold me out......only a few people can do that.....:smash: and the other guys checked out.....but I was cautious of you to begin with.....didn't want to lynch a loyal "Made man":no:

"Other guys"???

Your story makes no sense at all. How could you have a full investigation on anyone the night you were put in prison, second how could you be ALLOWED to reveal said bogus investigation after your incarceration, and finally.... how could you "check out" the "other guys"?

Do you enjoy sabotaging games?

[Splitpersonality]

This is all too confusing, I feel a little bad for Angelo, but if he was the stoolie it serves him right.

Wish I would have remembered to check this and vote today :|

[White_eyes:D]

It was my ability....(but I can't say anything else about it...:shrug:)
and what are you ATPG? might as well reveal that you are a snitch..:smoking:

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was my ability....(but I can't say anything else about it...:shrug:)
and what are you ATPG? might as well reveal that you are a snitch..:smoking:

I'm going to check with Generalhankerchief to see if what you're doing is even legally allowed. If real detectives cannot reveal post "mortem" so to speak, those who aren't the real detectives shouldn't be able to do so either.

Gentlemen of this fine organization: Nothing I say to you will prevent my lynch tomorrow. What is sad is that I am actually a useful role which now I cannot use. Except for tonight, of course. I will forever serve Don Giampetro, and no insane/fake detective can change that.

[GeneralHankerchief]

No rules have been broken.

You guys can draw your own conclusions. :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's all right. The Don knows who I work for, and that's good enough for me. :bow:

Just for the sake of my sanity, however, if you're going to vote for me next round, just do so... White_Eyes accusations of me are completely baseless and there is no way I can counter them anyway. In the meantime, regardless, I would like it if you continued to look for other suspects. Let's not let one person derail our efforts.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

ATPG needs to be lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG needs to be lynched.

Oh, in just the worst possible way. But first! I have for you many things up my sleeve both mystical and whimsy. For example, I have dis plate of spaghetti, and on top of it, there's cheese. And there would be dis meatball on top of it, but some wiseguy sneezed. It rolls off da table and onto da floors, and then it goes out right out the door, and into the street and gets run over. And that's precisely what I'm gonna do to you, capisce? Except, I won't be running you over with so much a vehicle, but more like a hail of bullets.

And then, also my vehicle. Just to be thorough. ~:pimp:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh, in just the worst possible way. But first! I have for you many things up my sleeve both mystical and whimsy. For example, I have dis plate of spaghetti, and on top of it, there's cheese. And there would be dis meatball on top of it,

A real Italian would know that the cheese goes on top of the meatball...you just confessed to being a stoolie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

A real Italian would know that the cheese goes on top of the meatball...you just confessed to being a stoolie.

It would but you stole my meatball out from under the cheese. This, I cannot tolerate.

[FactionHeir]

Sorry khaan, didn't know you were a Capo....

[seireikhaan]

FoS: Everyone who voted for me

[GeneralHankerchief]

Night 3

The two policemen were in their car, waiting. Each of them knew their mission - they were just waiting for the final go-ahead. It began to rain outside. Finally, the radio crackled.

"7192, this is Base. Proceed to target. You'll be faxed with charges and a warrant on the way out, over."

"7912, copy that. On our way. Out."

One of the officers flicked the sirens on and the car blazed out into the night, leaving the station and the thin, congested roads of the city to a more pleasant suburban area. The roads grew wider, the blocks became longer, and the houses looked more and more affluent and opulent as the policemen drove on. Whatever the position of this man was within the Catalanos, it was clear that he had socked away enough money to live extraordinarily comfortably.

The cops parked at the right house and got out of the door, walking up the long driveway, passing several nice cars on the way to the front door. They rang the doorbell and knocked on it for good measure, shouting that they were the police.

No response.

"Open up! This is the police! We have a warrant for Vito Fillari's (pevergreen's) arrest! You have ten seconds to open this door!"

No response.

The cops counted down, and still the door didn't open. One looked at the other.

"Bust it."

The two men kicked the door in and entered the house, guns drawn. Quickly, however, they saw that there was no sign of threat. They couldn't hear any movements at all, not even the shifts in bed or little pitter-patter of feet of a person moving around, reacting to the sound of their front door getting broken off its hinges. They couldn't even hear the sound of a person breathing, as if he had already chosen a hiding place. No door or window was open, meaning that Vito hadn't beaten a hasty exit, either.

All in all, the house was deserted.

Muttering, the cops walked back to the car to report their failure, making sure to key one of Vito's cars on the way out.

Later that day, Don Giampetro quickly heard the news of the break-in and summoned the usual meeting. Despite the fact that one of his top men survived, the Don was still not pleased.

"All right, gentlemen," the Don said. "You know why we're here. Despite the cops' failure to get any of us last night, the fact remains that there is still a Stoolie or two hiding among us. Therefore, we will abide by the usual procedure. Speak."

~~~~~~~~~

Active: (13)
A Very Super Market
Greyblades
Beefy187
Northnovas
navarro951
Tratorix
Captain Blackadder
pevergreen
FactionHeir
Askthepizzaguy
atheotes
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Sasaki Kojiro

Arrested:
White_eyes:D

Executed:
Shinseikhaan

Voting will last +/- 24 hours. :yes:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I predict this round will be entertaining.

[navarro951]

Vote: FactionHeir

Just suspicions, he speaks of knowing who Capos are now, I mentioned his previous plan as to letting us wait which is still disagree with. I am going on a hunch but I feel something strangely suspicious about him.

[Beefy187]

Was that the protector again? Goody :2thumbsup:

Vote: ATPG

We lynch ATPG. If his not the stoolie then White_eyes gets hammered :smash:

In both scenarios I won't get grilled

[Greyblades]

Hmm, I'm not sure but for some reason I'm thinking that the mafia must kill off the guys under the target before they can murder a capo, underboss or the don.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Guys-

Ask Don Giampetro about my innocence.

I was investigated and I am innocent. White_Eyes is lying.

[Greyblades]

No offence Pizza, but it would be prudent to wait for AVSM to confirm that before taking your claim that he's lying seriously

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, I know.

Thanks a lot, White_Eyes. This is really, really stupid.

[A Very Super Market]

White Eyes is lying. Unless ATPG is some sort of weird Cop Godfather, in which case we'll get him anyways, he has been proven innocent. However, Greyblades has not.....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I agree to die before the game is over. I am NOT some wierd cop godfather.

Awaiting orders, Don Giampetro.

[Greyblades]

White Eyes is lying. Unless ATPG is some sort of weird Cop Godfather, in which case we'll get him anyways, he has been proven innocent. However, Greyblades has not.....

Your point? Neither has about at least 9 others, assuming that your investigators have been active over the last few days.

[A Very Super Market]

Of course. Lynch 'em all, if they lurk around. As far as I'm concerned, they have no roles anyways.

[Beefy187]

In that case Unvote: ATPG

Back to phase one again

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: atheotes

Take a stand, man, or die like the traitor you are.

[Splitpersonality]

Hmm... Why would we let White_eyes get away with throwing suspicion around? Unless he's been cleared already...

[A Very Super Market]

Because he's been taken in. Whaddawe gonna do, break him out and den kill him? Tink with your head, ya mook.

[Northnovas]

Hmm... Why would we let White_eyes get away with throwing suspicion around? Unless he's been cleared already...

Guys will say anything once they are behind bars trying to look after themselves.

Interesting N1 and N3 were a bust for the cops. Again was it protection or are there 2 stoolies and they must work together? Is it possible that both did not get their orders in because of inactivity?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Odd... if the stoolies have to work together, I don't understand why they wouldn't already know that and simply do so. Unless they don't know one another?

[Splitpersonality]

That would make sense... Not knowing each other because they're afraid of anyone knowing.

Lynching lurkers would seem to work too, not throwing FoS at them or anything, just remembering how Treehouse ended up last :P

[Askthepizzaguy]

I would prefer to have some direction from the Don, but if anyone is going to go down, I would suggest those trying to avoid suspicion, like the lurkers. Or certain other people accusing known innocents.

[A Very Super Market]

Bah, in lieu of real threats. I Vote: Captain Blackadder

Lurker....

[Splitpersonality]

For the record I don't know any information of innocents, unless it's been posted and I missed it ><

[A Very Super Market]

Ah, but we don't know if you are an innocent yourself, do we? And why do I ask you, since I frankly don't care about your opinion, potential stoolie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah, dis is da mafia. You're presumed guilty until proven innocent. Should I whack him now, Don Giampetro? Or shoulds I wait.

[Splitpersonality]

I'm not sayin' you're askin me anything Don. Just making an observation about my current status.

If you think I should be whacked by all means do it Don, I'd obviously not prefer it, but whatever helps you guys sleep.

[pevergreen]

It'll take more than that.

Or it won't :sweatdrop:

Once off abilities suck.

[atheotes]

if the arrest was thwarted by a protector role...whoever is doing it doing a fine job:2thumbsup:

not sure what to make of white eyes accusation. The don is convinced of ATPG's innocence... so not sure what White Eyes' intentions are...

[Askthepizzaguy]

My guess is that those in prison would say anything to get out. Or perhaps, White_Eyes is just having fun. Or perhaps, as I suggested, he has an insane investigator role.

[navarro951]

White_eyes and FH are at my highest suspicions. I say we get at least one of them this round. You guys already know my vote.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My guess is that those in prison would say anything to get out. Or perhaps, White_Eyes is just having fun. Or perhaps, as I suggested, he has an insane investigator role.

That would actually be really cool. Since people are arrested instead of killed, he could have made a plea bargain in exchange for throwing the mafia off the trail of the stoolies.

[A Very Super Market]

But White Eyes is in PRISON.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Please, everyone, read the active players list. Please. This isn't the first or second time it's happened.

Edit: Sasaki, I agree. That would be pretty flipping sweet.

[navarro951]

o ya ma badz...FH remains my number 1 then.

[Northnovas]

Well White Eyes is out of play because he was arrested so there is no vote that way. After 3 night usually FH would by his own words have some analysis to offer:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?p=2232490#post2232490

However, he has been quiet that way.
The Don feels he as recognized a threat so I will go with his vote.

Vote:Captain Blackadder

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:Greyblades

Out of my top 5, I will pick him to vote for because

[seireikhaan]

GET ZE PIZZA, GET IT GET IT GET IT!!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

.....?



This is actually very amusing. I'm flattered that all the "dead" or inactive people are pointing the finger at me, especially when I know it's a lie, the Don knows it's a lie, and I was investigated already.

But whatever is going on, it's putting a grin on my face.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Interesting... it seems as if the dead almost know something the living don't... remind you of anything? :evilgrin:

[seireikhaan]

Interesting... it seems as if the dead almost know something the living don't... remind you of anything? :evilgrin:
:mellow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reminds me of The Golden Rule and also Whispers in the Night. Or perhaps some game I wasn't in.

There are so many fingers being pointed at me, and from the most bizarre sources, that I'm actually being tempted to vote for myself in spite of what my role PM said.

[Captain Blackadder]

VOTE ATPG

Quite a few accusations from confirmed innocents make me suspicious and since I don't really have anyhting else to go on .

[FactionHeir]

navarro: I know both are Capos because the writeup says so.

WE's death


As someone who had slightly more responsibility than just following orders, someone charged with keeping track of men under him, he was feeling the weariness more than most.


khaan's death


A few people grimaced, especially the three men under him. He had been like this the other day, except for a brief 30-second period in which his name had first been brought up, he shouted that this was an attack on his integrity and named his accuser, and then promptly went back to sleep. Naturally, his defense hadn't done much in the ways of convincing people.


GH's mafia structure:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2231602&postcount=23

pever seems to be the consigliere due the mention of his high status (Underboss probably wouldn't live in the noble quarter)

I am analyzing :grin:

[Beefy187]

I might just wait for the Don to tell me who to vote for :bow:

Beefy is at your service.

[Askthepizzaguy]

unvote, vote Captain Blackadder

That was a strange move. You already have votes on you and you vote for the one guy I know is innocent besides the Don. Well, I'll see you in hell, traitor. :smoking:





:clown:

[pevergreen]

Vote: Beefy187

:suspicious:

[Captain Blackadder]

I might just wait for the Don to tell me who to vote for :bow:

Beefy is at your service.

Well The Don has voted for me.

Does anyone else have the suspicion that we are going to have a departed scenario here?

Damn you atpg for making me paranoid about any game where we have a "confirmed" innocent.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Damn you atpg for making me paranoid about any game where we have a "confirmed" innocent.

Allow me to return the favors.

*points a gun at Blackadder's head*

Damn you, my friend... my dear, dear friend...

[FactionHeir]

pever, both you and beefy are innocent... why vote him.

[pevergreen]

:laugh4:

He knows why. :stare:

English song indeed. :no:

Unvote: Beefy, Vote: FactionHeir

For thinking im some type of big shot.

[White_eyes:D]

hmmm......Khaan tell me:book:.....who was your "Wise guys?":smoking: