Marian problems

[duncan.gill]

I am playing a campaign as Rome and have received the Marian reforms. Unfortunately it has resulted in all my homeland MIC’s being damaged, I have repaired them all once (and so now can recruit the reformed troops) but the MICS still appear to be damaged. They look like they need to be repaired and I can spend 10,000 to re-repair them although they still allow troop recruitment. What have I done wrong?

Also are the reformed troops worse than the original ones? The Princep’s stats are very similar however they cost substantially more (even though there are only an extra 20 men in each unit).

[A Very Super Market]

The extra men, lethality, and their gigantic AoR makes up for it, don't you think?

[Ariovistus Maximus]

Hey, about that; (a:) do I hafta destroy MICs and rebuild, or can I just build the next one?

Also, when I load up my game as Rome, I often find that my gov't buildings are 100% damaged!!! And once this happened to upwards of 20 cities; I had to repair ALL of them. $$$! Really annoying. I assume its just a glitch?

[DaciaJC]

Hey, about that; (a:) do I hafta destroy MICs and rebuild, or can I just build the next one?

Also, when I load up my game as Rome, I often find that my gov't buildings are 100% damaged!!! And once this happened to upwards of 20 cities; I had to repair ALL of them. $$$! Really annoying. I assume its just a glitch?

Were you playing another campaign right before? If so, that would be the reason. If you want to load up a different campaign, you should quit out of EB completely and then open it up another time.

[Ariovistus Maximus]

Were you playing another campaign right before? If so, that would be the reason. If you want to load up a different campaign, you should quit out of EB completely and then open it up another time.

Yep. That was it. It occurred to me that that was the pattern, but I couldn't think why. Good to know! Thanks.

[Chris1959]

Marian reforms replace your current Polybian MIC with it's equivalent Marian, the Polybian MIC will have 100% damage simply demolish it and get some money back any upgrades you build will be Marian.

[Mulceber]

I am playing a campaign as Rome and have received the Marian reforms. Unfortunately it has resulted in all my homeland MIC’s being damaged, I have repaired them all once (and so now can recruit the reformed troops) but the MICS still appear to be damaged. They look like they need to be repaired and I can spend 10,000 to re-repair them although they still allow troop recruitment. What have I done wrong?

Don't try to repair them. If you look at your list of buildings, you'll notice that there's *another* MIC building that has magically appeared in your settlement. That's the one that's producing Marian troops, not your old, damaged Polybian MIC. Just destroy the Polybian one and collect some cash.


Also are the reformed troops worse than the original ones? The Princep’s stats are very similar however they cost substantially more (even though there are only an extra 20 men in each unit).

In terms of stats, yes, Principes are slightly better than the cohors reformata. Why that is, I don't know, although I'm sure the EB team had a good reason for it. Regardless, they're both very good units and the Marian Cohorts will be just as good or better than their Polybian equivalents once they get themselves some experience points.

In terms of cost, the increases is because Principes were landed, citizen soldiers who were fighting for their country and were only paid in rations - no salary for them. Marian troops are professional soldiers and thus are paid to fight. Thus, they cost more and you'll notice their upkeep is higher. -M

[PraetorFigus]

In terms of stats, yes, Principes are slightly better than the cohors reformata. Why that is, I don't know, although I'm sure the EB team had a good reason for it. Regardless, they're both very good units and the Marian Cohorts will be just as good or better than their Polybian equivalents once they get themselves some experience points.

In terms of cost, the increases is because Principes were landed, citizen soldiers who were fighting for their country and were only paid in rations - no salary for them. Marian troops are professional soldiers and thus are paid to fight. Thus, they cost more and you'll notice their upkeep is higher. -M

Sorta what A Very Super Market said,


The extra men, lethality, and their gigantic AoR makes up for it, don't you think?

and to add, the Marian reforms also represent changes on who is entering the Roman military, since the requirements have changed from the prior two eras, no more farmer-soldiers providing their own equipment.