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[Captain Blackadder]

Perhapes for Turkey Kermalism could be a bonus the agressive secularisation of Turkey means they get a bonus against religious based efforts.

[White_eyes:D]

I declare WAR on Beefy187:smash: Just kidding.....:clown:
seems my guys are groomed for defense.....:juggle2: I have Anti-Spec ops and a high defense rating.....Only real gap I can see......well....I sure won't be telling everyone here.....but it's not my economy....which I would have thought....:sweatdrop:

[Greyblades]

Arghh! Theres been a heck of a mix up with the Espionage numbers. I'm going to redistribute the role pms I have done and I can hopefully straighten this out.
Edit OK thats finished Japan and turkey were fine but the rest had to be redone. Sorry for filling your inboxes.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I declare WAR on Beefy187:smash: Just kidding.....:clown:
seems my guys are groomed for defense.....:juggle2: I have Anti-Spec ops and a high defense rating.....Only real gap I can see......well....I sure won't be telling everyone here.....but it's not my economy....which I would have thought....:sweatdrop:

you shouldn't say anti-spec ops, it like giving me a challenge :clown::clown::beam::beam:

this game is shaping up to be awesome, I am really impressed!

[White_eyes:D]

Try anything....and I come down on you like a sack of bricks....:smg:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am almost tempted to tell my spies to sneak into the government offices of turkey and leave a note on the presidents desk, the note will say "what anti-spec ops defenses?"
nah I am just kidding. I have far to many other people to spy on to worry about Turkey

[White_eyes:D]

I am almost tempted to tell my spies to sneak into the government offices of turkey and leave a note on the presidents desk, the note will say "what anti-spec ops defenses?"
nah I am just kidding. I have far to many other people to spy on to worry about Turkey

You know....I would actually laugh at that....because you wouldn't laugh if you knew what my trade good is....and what it does...:eyebrows:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

If you say so. but I was being serious, I don't plan on any funny business in turkey. in fact, I hope we can even be friends.

[White_eyes:D]

If you say so. but I was being serious, I don't plan on any funny business in turkey. in fact, I hope we can even be friends.

Yes well my trade good is pretty kick :daisy:....but if I leave NATO there well be some repercussions....:thumbsdown:

[ULC]

Yes well my trade good is pretty kick :daisy:....but if I leave NATO there well be some repercussions....:thumbsdown:

*switches to muffled steroetypical Italian accent*

You can join the family, but you can never leave it...

...Uh, I mean, NATO is a very warm and accepting group that does everything it can to keep it's members...

...we have cookies!

[White_eyes:D]

Why in the world did Turkey, join NATO???:furious3:

@Host: Say If me and a few other country's formed a MEC....would there be any benefit's???:juggle2:

[Jolt]

Why in the world did Turkey, join NATO???:furious3:

@Host: Say If me and a few other country's formed a MEC....would there be any benefit's???:juggle2:

...? What are the benefits of NATO?

[Iskander 3.1]

Why in the world did Turkey, join NATO???:furious3:

@Host: Say If me and a few other country's formed a MEC....would there be any benefit's???:juggle2:

Yeah, seriously! If they weren't in NATO, I could easily take them without starting World War III!

[ULC]

...? What are the benefits of NATO?

Shared defense and "defensive" technology. If WE leaves, he gets hit hard on the technology scale as he is forced to resort back to throwing spears and and sharp rocks.

[Greyblades]

Why in the world did Turkey, join NATO???:furious3:

@Host: Say If me and a few other country's formed a MEC....would there be any benefit's???:juggle2:

If you can convince a country with a high Tech to join then yeah I guess you could share. I think I should probably make alliances raise all member countries tech levels to the value of the member with the highest tech level.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I disagree. A higher tech country must voluntarily share that tech.

We might be allies with someone but that does not mean we share our most advanced weapons technology. Otherwise you could form an alliance with the USA, then cancel the alliance, and be as technologically advanced as the USA.

[A Very Super Market]

Or as Somalia.

[Beskar]

You do trading or agreements, like a defensive treaty would imply a nation can help you and if they help you, then you have that level.

While another treaty could be if you wanted to share, you could.

[pevergreen]

Australia doesnt get fancy tech from USA.

[Iskander 3.1]

That's because you don't want to share the secret technology of kangaroos with lasers strapped to their pouches.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Shut up! You don't want their dingoes eating your baby, do you??? :clown:

[Greyblades]

I think I will just leave tech trading up to Role play just tell me you want to sell or give your tech and I'll raise ther level.
Sorry I havent made any progress on the Role PMs so far but the franticness of that mixup earlier has realy put me off my stride. All I want to do right now is kill things on Mount&Blade.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

you can be in more than one group at a time right?

[Greyblades]

If by group you mean alliance then yes but you may have to make a choice if one alliance attacks the other.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

well that makes sense, I was just wondering.
(plus remember my question about nuclear weapons? how are we going to build more?)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Yeah, seriously! If they weren't in NATO, I could easily take them without starting World War III!

you are going to have SOOO many bigger problems to worry about my friend. I have quite the plan for you :beam::beam::stop::rifle:

:charge::charge:

[White_eyes:D]

Yeah, seriously! If they weren't in NATO, I could easily take them without starting World War III!

Who is this country.....I want to nuke them....:laugh4: or otherwise just mess around....:smash:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

that would be the USSR, or the one country in the world that no one wants on their bad side. especially when you are right next to them :sweatdrop:
I however plan on making it my life's goal to pillage/loot/ruin/foil/ravage/destroy any plans he may come up with :laugh4::laugh4:

[White_eyes:D]

Well....I guess I well need to....spice up his life a bit...:2thumbsup:

[Greyblades]

Ugh I've allmost finished the USSR and boy it is tough to keep from going crazy and giving them things like armoured bears.

[Iskander 3.1]

If by armoured bears you mean the world's largest division of tanks, waiting to steamroll through western Europe (and Turkey, can't forget them).

[Greyblades]

You havent played red alert 3 have you?

[Iskander 3.1]

No...are there armoured bears there?
I have played Red Alert 2. Do I get to have Yuri on my side?

[White_eyes:D]

Hey.....If we can't be friends....might as well be enemies....(I am not really on anyone's side....but clearly I will have to go USA if you keep this up.....:smash:)

[Greyblades]

I have wracked my brain for ideas and Russia is finally done.

[Beskar]

I think I should have very high bonus to funding terrorist groups and undermining people.

[Jolt]

No...are there armoured bears there?
I have played Red Alert 2. Do I get to have Yuri on my side?

There are...Mammoth Tanks (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/1/1e/GDIMammoth2.gif)

[Beskar]

Apocalypse Tank (http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Apocalypse_Tank) was always better.

[pevergreen]

MAD tanks win.

[Beefy187]

We have gundams up our sleaves.
I think we win.

[A Very Super Market]

You can't use any of those things (Maybe the bears....) if you don't have any oil!


Somalia, ruining dreams since 1981.

[Iskander 3.1]

I've got the Caspian sea, has all the oil I need.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I swear, if I have to nuke you with subs I will!!!! (Somalia)

not when I blow it up Iskander!!!!

[Greyblades]

I realy am not getting through these special roles very fast. Somolia's done.

[Jolt]

Somalia will be one of the first countries to be conquered by Portugal. They were a strategically important part of the control of Indian trade, which we shall seek to regain surpremacy once again.

[A Very Super Market]

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha. You think you can take down Somalia? Well first, you have to get here-NO OIL! Bahahaha!

And we don't claim responsibility. It's those damn pirates.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

technically Somalia is still part of NATO....... how about we just pay you more than Russia?

[Jolt]

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha. You think you can take down Somalia? Well first, you have to get here-NO OIL! Bahahaha!

And we don't claim responsibility. It's those damn pirates.

Sorry. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonangol)

[Greyblades]

Both Germanies are done.

[pevergreen]

Heh heh heh.

I plan on following the protip.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

we really should have gotten more Warsaw pact players.... the way things are now if NATO stays together we could completely own them.

[White_eyes:D]

Well if Russia tries anything funny:inquisitive:......I well make sure they pay heavily.....:smash: (I mean I am just a guy who wants to see some crazy formation of Nations.....right now...NATO is the closet thing to it....)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

this is the USSR we are talking about, they are ALWAYS trying to do something funny

[White_eyes:D]

It looks like Poland needs a good shove in that case.....:laugh4: I really don't mind being a pain in Russia's :daisy: if they want to mess around....:smash:

[White_eyes:D]

Oh yeah....does beefy really have Gundams???:laugh4: I am going to try and research some super weapon of some sort....:laugh4:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Japan has gundams in there own minds if thats what you mean. although if beefy really wanted to spend years of research and billions of dollars creating some sort of humanoid shaped tank then more power to him. I will be using that time to make a missile capable of piercing its armor and destroying it (and my missile is going to cost a heck of a lot less :laugh4:) gundams are perhaps the least cost effective weapon EVER :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

[White_eyes:D]

That depends.....if they came with some kind of jamming technology(in almost every one) then your missles *might* be useless:smash: (why I said I would come up with some sort of super weapon...:laugh4:)

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so now they have enough money to create gundams AND jamming technology? these people are brilliant (:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:, you have a point though, but if they jam missile wouldn't they also jam the gundams? )
then I will simply have to use grenades, or perhaps dynamite (slap some dynamite on its legs and it will be Useless!)

[Greyblades]

We really should have gotten more Warsaw pact players.... the way things are now if NATO stays together we could completely own them.
I never said that signups are closed if we can find afew more players willing to play warsaw factions then I'll let them play.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhh, I will start hunting for some more players then. Need to at least find someone for Poland.

[Iskander 3.1]

Don't forget Poland!

http://www.youforgotpoland.org/mjames/yfp/

[Beefy187]

Japan has gundams in there own minds if thats what you mean. although if beefy really wanted to spend years of research and billions of dollars creating some sort of humanoid shaped tank then more power to him. I will be using that time to make a missile capable of piercing its armor and destroying it (and my missile is going to cost a heck of a lot less :laugh4:) gundams are perhaps the least cost effective weapon EVER :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

Well, we have plan B and C ready as well...
Godzilla first, then Ultraman :laugh4:

[Greyblades]

Mechas in the 1980's...

[Beefy187]

Mechas in the 1980's...

Well in that case, Astro Boy, Gigantar and Majingar Z :yes:
1979, we'll have our gandams :beam:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

doesn't Godzilla try to destroy Japan with surprising regularity? I think you are going to have a lot of problems trying to get Godzilla to do anything you want it to.

[Beefy187]

doesn't Godzilla try to destroy Japan with surprising regularity? I think you are going to have a lot of problems trying to get Godzilla to do anything you want it to.

Well, if you "visit" my country while Godzilly is having fun....
Godzilla will throw spads at any army who tries to invade Japan, chews the nuclear misiles, Rip those tanks like toys... Whip those fighters like mosquitos. :yes:

Ofcause, it will be a lose lose situation for me, if no one invades us.. :shame:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

besides who would want to attack Japan? we get all of the gaming consoles from you guys. we need you hard at work on the next next gen. so get to work! :whip:

[Greyblades]

Sorry I didnt do any role pms yesterday but due to some circumstances I ended up drinking a cocktail of cocacola lime and apple juce... you can see where I'm going here.

[Greyblades]

Pakistan is done.
You know I was origionally going to have morale as a sort of tie breaker stat but seeing as pretty much 1/6 of the trade goods and atributes increase or decrease it I guess I'm going to have to think of something to make having morale boosting trade partners more relevent.

[Iskander 3.1]

Vietnam war revisited:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/218516

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

what about when a nation is at war its morale slowly decreases, as people get more and more annoyed as the war drags on. when the morale gets to low you have lowered economics and Military power. and your troops start going AWOL, and such. It will increase the benefits of morale and also mean that wars will have to be finished quickly, or cause major problems for the invader. (like Vietnam)

you could have it be called war weariness and have it effect each nation at a different rate. Nations like America and Britain hit hardest by it, while nations like the USSR and China effected much less quickly.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You no mess with China. :chinese:

In all seriousness though, it seems messed up to me that we have an offensive Chinese stereotype smiley here at the org.

:inquisitive:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I would not be surprised if we were Banned in China (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BannedInChina)

don't click the link though, unless you have about 3 hours of free time.... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife)

[Askthepizzaguy]

You know what's really hilarious? The list of things banned in the USA is about a third as long as the list of things banned in China.

The United States: Now 66% More free than China!

As for the content of teh ban list: Racism, porn, and bad language. Drugs and violence OK. After all, we have to have our bang bang, puff puff.

[Khazaar]

East Germany willingly trades with all nations to futher their independance from the Kapitalist Konsumerist Oppression. Made in Germany still counts for sommething...

[Greyblades]

Hmph I was going to be sending out Irans role PM now and moving on to italy but for for some reason i cant seem to think of any suitable attributes or a special ability.

[ULC]

You know what's really hilarious? The list of things banned in the USA is about a third as long as the list of things banned in China.

The United States: Now 66% More free than China!

As for the content of teh ban list: Racism, porn, and bad language. Drugs and violence OK. After all, we have to have our bang bang, puff puff.

As far as I am concerned, if a government thinks a medium is threatening to it, then it's doing something very, very wrong.

[Zim]

On the TV tropes site? As far as I can tell none of the bullet points there have to do with the federal government banning something, two are talking about state governments (one about something that ended near the beginning of the last century, another later reversed) and most of the rest deal with company's responses to complaints from groups about certain cartoons (and a line in a video game) offending them.

Besides, if we're going by the number of bullet points in each section, the U.S. is about 73% freer. ~;p


You know what's really hilarious? The list of things banned in the USA is about a third as long as the list of things banned in China.

The United States: Now 66% More free than China!

As for the content of teh ban list: Racism, porn, and bad language. Drugs and violence OK. After all, we have to have our bang bang, puff puff.

[Iskander 3.1]

As far as I am concerned, if a government thinks a medium is threatening to it, then it's doing something very, very wrong.

:yes:

[Zim]

I always thought that Lisa Williams character was a bit shifty, I could see her trying to bring down the government.

...Oh, not that kind of medium. :clown:


As far as I am concerned, if a government thinks a medium is threatening to it, then it's doing something very, very wrong.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Hmph I was going to be sending out Irans role PM now and moving on to italy but for for some reason i cant seem to think of any suitable attributes or a special ability.

well it is a very religious area, perhaps the possibility of declaring a Jihad against another country, raising troops stats and giving it benefits when attacking or sabotaging.

[Beskar]

Bonus to terrorism. They funded Hesbollah for example in Lebanon.

[Greyblades]

OK I think I have enough to send it out. Its going to be a bit bare as I couldn't think of a special ability.
You know I'm kinda surprised at how allmost all the players that have gotten their role PM's haven't asked any questions.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I asked quite a few questions thank you very much! I have even more, but I am waiting until the game starts, at which point I am sure quite a bit of the rules will be revealed to us.

[Greyblades]

I asked quite a few questions thank you very much! I have even more, but I am waiting until the game starts, at which point I am sure quite a bit of the rules will be revealed to us.

Yeah but apart from YLC you were pretty much the only one with more than one question.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

huh, I guess everyone thinks it will all be revealed when we start the game. but me and my obsessive plotting means I have to ask the questions now.... :sweatdrop:

[Greyblades]

Well seeing as this is pretty much a forum version of a tabletop roleplaying game of countries and any situation you can think of that could occur in 1980 is doable I think I will have to make up most of the rules when the situation arises that we actually need a rule.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

which suprisingly only succeeds at making this even more Awesome! :laugh4:

[Iskander 3.1]

I was going to wait until formal rules were posted to ask any questions.

[pevergreen]

I'll figure it out as I play.

Thats how men do it. :smug:

[Beskar]

Why am I classed as a Socialist Republic when I am an Islamic Republic ruled by a theocracy?

[Greyblades]

Because I am having trouble actually finding out what kind of government Iran had in 1980:sweatdrop:. Wiki pages dont have signs saying "In 1980 this countries government was: ".
I'll send a revision.

[ULC]

Because I am having trouble actually finding out what kind of government Iran had in 1980:sweatdrop:.

Islamic Republic

[Beskar]

It's the same as the current, the revolution happened in 1979, before that, it was an American backed despot.

[Khazaar]

So the people in Iran back the system, everythings shiny and great after a revolution...
East Germany has great deals for Iran^^...

[Greyblades]

Hrmph. Italy, Potugal, Canada... I've been putting off on them because I cant realy think of a single feature for any of them that could count as an attribute that is actually relevent to the game... Eh screw it I'm bailing out on these three. I'll see if YLC can do anything with them.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

huh, not much to distinguish them really...... I got nothing, (are they the last few nations you have to do?)

[A Very Super Market]

Canada is essentially a third-world country, you know. Living off sales of it's resources...

[White_eyes:D]

Canada is essentially a third-world country, you know. Living off sales of it's resources...
Yeah.....sure.....:rolleyes:Yet, it somehow came up with the idea of "Peacekeepers":smash: In a time when USA and Soviet Russia were beating everyone up....NEVER count out the little guy....:yes:

[A Very Super Market]

Our manufacturing industry pales in the face of mining, fishing, logging, and farming. Our economy is like that of a third-world country. I was just suggesting ideas for Greyblades.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Canada? They are essentially North Montana. They have no role on the world stage, except as a pretty color on the map.

:clown: HEADLINE: US Citzen makes fun of Canada. Canada's trees bark a witty retort. :clown:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

ahhh Canada, our lovably ineffectual neighbor to the north! :clown:

but they cant be all bad, I mean they accept The queen as their sovereign!

[Greyblades]

Indonesia isnt a pit of inspiration either. They pretty much sat on their hands when under netherlands rule doing very littlle for themselves untill the 40's when they threw off their shackles spent the next 20 years getting their affairs in order and fighting coups then doing nothing from the 60's onwards.

[TheFlax]

Canada? They are essentially North Montana. They have no role on the world stage, except as a pretty color on the map.

:clown: HEADLINE: US Citzen makes fun of Canada. Canada's trees bark a witty retort. :clown:

And now you shall die slowly for making fun of "le plus meilleur pays au monde!" (the more best country in the world) In the words of one of our old Prime Ministers.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I propose that Canada has the special unit: "Canadian Mounties"

They fight especially well in cold climates, on horseback. Of course, this makes them easy targets for hidden machine gun turrets.

Their exports are William Shatner and Celine Dion. As in "Someone took a Shatner on Celine Dion"

[A Very Super Market]

And now you shall die slowly for making fun of "le plus meilleur pays au monde!" (the more best country in the world) In the words of one of our old Prime Ministers.

Ah-hah, I love that quote!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indonesia is a huge Muslim country is it not? And by that, I don't mean there are literally gigantic Muslims running around. Although that would be hilarious.

[Iskander 3.1]

:shame: I don't think I can do this guys, my schedule has suddenly changed dramatically and I'll be lucky if I get to log on once a day. How much of a commitment do you expect this to require, Greyblades?

[Greyblades]

For superpowers? I guess a medium amount of attendance at worst.

[Jolt]

Indonesia is a huge Muslim country is it not? And by that, I don't mean there are literally gigantic Muslims running around. Although that would be hilarious.

It is the largest muslim country in the world. As for Portugal, I have no idea what kind of attributes you guys are giving out, so I can't suggest anything without getting examples of other attributes.

[ULC]

It is the largest muslim country in the world. As for Portugal, I have no idea what kind of attributes you guys are giving out, so I can't suggest anything without getting examples of other attributes.

Actually, can you explain what makes Portugal different, besides language and culture? What could Portugal offer to another country? What does it's government and people do best? How well funded, trained, and equipped is it's military? Does it's military have a specific tactical focus? How well does it do on the Intelligence Agency scale? Does it have any predisposition with other countries?

[White_eyes:D]

Canada? They are essentially North Montana. They have no role on the world stage, except as a pretty color on the map.

:clown: HEADLINE: US Citzen makes fun of Canada. Canada's trees bark a witty retort. :clown:

On "Canada Day"? you sir are going to be visited by the RCMP (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce6LwkVI9lw&feature=related):laugh4: but really:whip:....comparing us to Americas....is like comparing Norway and Sweden...:juggle2:

[Captain Blackadder]

Well Portugal should have something to do with its alliance to Britain which is the oldest alliance in the world since 1373 maybe a combat bonus if fighting alongside britain.

[Khazaar]

I think for all minor western nations I would give the speciality "non threatening" bonus to diplomacy and negotiations in the UN and otherwise as long as they do not increase their military drastically or attack another country. They could still partake in Peacekeeping missions a la NATO or Afganistan without loosing that bonus...

[White_eyes:D]

Canada is essentially a third-world country, you know. Living off sales of it's resources...

You need to go to a Canadian school:wink:
Canada has played a leading role in UN peacekeeping efforts. During the Suez Crisis of 1956, then-future Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson eased tensions by proposing the inception of the United Nations Peacekeeping Force.[57] Canada has since served in 50 peacekeeping missions, including every UN peacekeeping effort until 1989,[58] and has since maintained forces in international missions in Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, and elsewhere. That's for "Peace Keeping" they kick :daisy: in keeping two nations form fighting apart:bow:

The city's economy grew when oil prices increased with the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973. The population increased by 272,000 in the eighteen years between 1971 (403,000) and 1989 (675,000) and another 345,000 in the next eighteen years (to 1,020,000 in 2007). During these boom years, skyscrapers were constructed at a pace seen by few cities anywhere. The relatively low-rise downtown quickly became dense with tall buildings,[14] a trend that continues to this day.

Calgary's economy was so closely tied to the oil industry that the city's boom peaked with the average annual price of oil in 1981.[15] I think this one is for Alberta....but they have the Oil-Fields.....those are like gold even in the Cold war....even the U.S. wants them....Living off it's "Sales" my :daisy: I could post more....but I think that's one of there biggest....resources:smash:

[A Very Super Market]

I do go to a Canadian school. Our primary sector far outweighs anything else in our economy. What does peacekeeping have to do with an economy?

[White_eyes:D]

It just means we have a military...:eyebrows: even though it sucks....:shame: and how could you forget about our Oil-sands??? *sheesh*....Kids these days.....don't even look at the facts:juggle2:

Edit: Even the Province (Manitoba) I live in....it started quite a bit of Agriculture (I can't recall but he helped make a fast-growing harvesting Wheat of some kind:thinking:)....I had to do a 10 page essay on most of our Country's resources....and to say that we have little to nothing....is a uneducated guess at best...:brood:

[A Very Super Market]

But that's exactly what I'm saying.... Our economy is nearly completely based off our resources.

[White_eyes:D]

But that's exactly what I'm saying.... Our economy is nearly completely based off our resources.

So you think it's better to be like Africa then?:juggle2:

[A Very Super Market]

Greyblades professed his lack of ideas for a number of countries, including Canada.

I tried to help him out by telling him about our heavily resource-based economy.

All I'm doing is stating fact, but I don't really know why you are trying to.... argue?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Really, because this is the 80's first, second, and third world has a very different meaning.
1st world= USA backing nation/capitalists basically
2nd world= USSR backing nation/ the commies!!!!
3rd World= Neutral/undecided

so Canada is a first world nation, that relies on natural resources for its economy.

[ULC]

So you think it's better to be like Africa then?:juggle2:

He's point it out it is like Africa, or at the very least the Middle East. Canada, in the 1980's, did not occupy an important strategic spot due to Alaska, had a small even if highly trained army, an economy dependent on others by it's natural resources but not it's products, and had internal issues that plague it even now, such as a severe shortage of doctors.

Canada took part in peacekeeping affairs, but has been mostly a second player to countries like the US, Brazil, Germany, India and UK, which make up the vast majority of UN Security Forces.

[Greyblades]

Just a heads up that my keyboard is on the fritz and I'm going to be visiting reletives tomorrow until at least sunday morning so I'm deflecting the responsabilities of the remaning role PMs to YLC.

Seriously je9s9e iut- is r09ealy= bad.

(Edit) friggng keyboard made me post before I was finished.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I think Greyblades key board is on the fritz. and YLC is supposed to be doing something (writing up role PMs???) while he goes to visit relatives.....

edit: never mind, I can understand it now.....

[Greyblades]

...yes
The i key is mixed up with the tab key the e with nine and backspace with u. Plus some others but its a on and off problem.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so Canada, Italy, Portugal, Indonesia is all that left?

[Beskar]

Really, because this is the 80's first, second, and third world has a very different meaning.
1st world= USA backing nation/capitalists basically
2nd world= USSR backing nation/ the commies!!!!
3rd World= Neutral/undecided

so Canada is a first world nation, that relies on natural resources for its economy.

Actually, it was even more different from this. It was based upon standard of living and others things, not allegiance.

1st World was basically Western Europe, United States and other nations of the "West".
2nd World was Russia, Eastern Europe, China and others.
3rd World was developing countries.
4th World was basket case/dead in the water economies.


4th world was removed as it offended some nations.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I was reading it from here, I might be wrong
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm

[Greyblades]

so Canada, Italy, Portugal, Indonesia is all that left?

Yes.
Could you keep the questions short, I'm using an onscreen keyboard.

[TheFlax]

an economy dependent on others by it's natural resources but not it's products, and had internal issues that plague it even now, such as a severe shortage of doctors.

I think pretty much everyone would be hard pressed to name one country not economically dependent on others and that does not have internal issues of significant importance. :clown:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I will keep the questions to a yes/no format. if I ask any questions that is.

I have an idea for Canada's special ability. Perhaps the ability to industrialize its country by learning to properly use its natural resource? a reform system.... (not really the most historical I know)

Portugal could definitely have some kind of benefit if it is an alliance with GB

Italy..... well, it has the heart of Christianity just sitting in its midst. but thats a separate state..... :sweatdrop: during the 80's Italy was going through the year of Lead (or whatever its called), so I cant think of any beneficial attributes.


I honesty have nothing.....

[Greyblades]

My keyboard seems to have calmed down for now and I took the time to finish the bare minimum of canada's role pm. It still produces u's when I press backspace though.

[White_eyes:D]

If Canada has any ability's.....it should go to Peace Keeping....or the fact that it has a huge trading partner by default with USA....other then that....I got nothing:shrug: (I need to admit:shame:...Militarily, they have very little to offer....:juggle2:) I only heard from my Class it's only importance is in it's Diplomatic Power...maybe that could be it's power....who knows??:book:

[Jolt]

Its pretty laughable that Portugal would get some bonus for fighting alongside Britain. The Portuguese military was far from having any kind of bond with the British military, or any special incentive that only Britain would give. I shall look over my files tomorrow as I'm exhausted (Noted that between the point of my last post, where I was already exhausted, to this post, I have only slept 3 hours).

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

well, we are without any better ideas :sweatdrop::sweatdrop: I really don't know that much about Portugal, so...... yeah..... we are just trying to find something that can actually be transported into the game.....

[Greyblades]

The other problem with a portugeise bond with britain is that they are player countries and as such will only be restricted by such things as old familliarity by choice.
Ah sod t-his ble9e9ding ke9=yboa0rd

[Askthepizzaguy]

Portugal should get a bonus to naval stuff and sea trade.

[Greyblades]

In the 1600's maybe but I doubt they are still in such standard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bah, toss the poor guys a bone.

Portugal is an awesome nation. You don't have to be 100% historically accurate. Maybe if they are part of NATO they get a defensive bonus and also their citizens are less likely to go against any NATO policy.

I dunno give them something to work with. I'm not going to whine if the game is slightly unbalanced.

[ULC]

Bah, toss the poor guys a bone.

Portugal is an awesome nation. You don't have to be 100% historically accurate. Maybe if they are part of NATO they get a defensive bonus and also their citizens are less likely to go against any NATO policy.

I dunno give them something to work with. I'm not going to whine if the game is slightly unbalanced.

In most diplomatic games, balance is almost entirely determined by intelligence and charisma of the players.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I agree with Pizza, lets throw Portugal a bone
(what about adding a Naval stat to the military stats and letting Portugal have an ability that decreases enemy navies stats)

then again, lets wait till jolt comes back, maybe he will find something interesting.


Really I know very little about the cold war in general, never found the time period my cup of tea.

[A Very Super Market]

Historically, Portugal and India had a rather strained relationship (Seizing Goa and all), but that was 20 years earlier. That's all I got.

[Jolt]

Well I can't find my uber book which would be the best source for this game. :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Quick note: This is the longest sign up thread I've ever seen.

[Beskar]

That battle royale was longer.

[Greyblades]

Quick note: This is the longest sign up thread I've ever seen.

Normal mafia games don't have to make the rules up before starting and dont have role PMs that would seem cramped on an a4 page.
By the way I've allready said it but I've left italy and portugal to YLC and I'm going to have to wing indonesia's PM.

[White_eyes:D]

I was just wondering.....what is our objective? I mean....if it was Turkey in the 1980's....it might be "Avoid being taken over by the Soviet Union"....or something like that...:juggle2:

But if it is total war style....it would be something along the lines of..."Remake the Ottoman Empire":book:....I honestly doubt I could do that though....:juggle2:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I think the objective is something like Dont let the world turn into a smoldering pile of nuclear waste! :laugh4::laugh4:

or if it does then at least come out of it with your piece of land not nuked......

(both are almost impossible of course!)

[White_eyes:D]

I think the objective is something like Dont let the world turn into a smoldering pile of nuclear waste! :laugh4::laugh4:

or if it does then at least come out of it with your piece of land not nuked......

(both are almost impossible of course!)
On Rise of Nations "Cold war scenario" VH I managed to beat the USSR in a nuke battle....:juggle2: (but America might have been wiped out and Russia was a bunch of feudal states, due to the nukes hitting them...:inquisitive:)

Edit: I also managed to get China on my side....think I made it so that they revolted...violently....with machine guns....not "Peace speeches" China was my only country....still in one piece....kinda funny....I had to fight to get back most of America...

[Greyblades]

I was just wondering.....what is our objective? I mean....if it was Turkey in the 1980's....it might be "Avoid being taken over by the Soviet Union"....or something like that...:juggle2:

But if it is total war style....it would be something along the lines of..."Remake the Ottoman Empire":book:....I honestly doubt I could do that though....:juggle2:

:juggle2: I dont actually know when I will draw the line and end the game with a clear winner(the only definite end game will be a two-way nuke volley) but apart from the main nato and warsaw members, who generally should try to out-last the other alliance, you can pretty do whatever you want that you can think of your country doing during the 80's.

[A Very Super Market]

Somalia now supports bunny rabbits. Why not?

[White_eyes:D]

I hate to ask....but what would Turkey be trying to do in the 1980's??? other then the desecration of Israel..:smash:

[Greyblades]

There aren't any rabbits in somalia?
@White eyes: I dunno, use your imagination? Hey if you don't want to play turkey I desperately need a russia anyway.

[Greyblades]

Just a reminder: russia is going to need a new player so its up for grabs.

[Death is yonder]

Well, seeing as you put so much effort into this game, it would be a shame to let the important player in this time period go unmanned.

In~ :yes:

Just a warning, my school term is starting again. Hopefully the game can "end" or something within 3 months cause I have final year then.

With luck, Nato won't screw me. :sweatdrop:

[Greyblades]

Ok then I dont know if it will end in 3 months or not but welcome all the same.
Sending PM.

[ULC]

Okay, this may start to get on Grey's nerves but...I need to back out from playing the US. I'm going to be joining KotF, and I need to concentrate on real life matters as well as finish and polish my large game.

I simply do not have the time, but I will help consolidate the rules so Greyblades can handle all aspects of them.

[Greyblades]

This is not going well... Do you think you could stick around as co-host/question answer-er untill I'm ready to start the game?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

when bad news rains, it pours...... :sweatdrop:

[Greyblades]

Well I have some good news; I've finished the portugal and Italy role PM's.
I gotta pick up pace before anyone else jumps ship. Oh and YLC? Before you go could you please put your part in that rule book thing I sent you yesterday.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

but who are we going to get to play America?

[Greyblades]

I should probably find someone good at working with a team... maybe I should ask a mod?

I've asked Sasaki and I hope he will play as the USA... or at least I hope he doesnt ban me for putting a poster in his profile page.:sweatdrop:

[Jolt]

Well, I've found the book. If you still need help, I can help you restructure every country.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

so we only need the role PM for Canada and everyone has one?

[Greyblades]

so we only need the role PM for Canada and everyone has one?

Uh no I've allready sent that one out its indonesia that is the last to be done. Even then I need to get a USA and YLC still needs to finish what he started and give me that rules consolidation.

[White_eyes:D]

Is there any truth to this Beefy???:inquisitive:


This crazy Japanese Wii safety manual is pretty much indicative of Japanese people's general insanity. Our theory: a secret battle between Godzilla and several Gundams in the early 1980s bombarded the whole of Japan with cosmic G-rays, which allowed then-youths to grow up and draw these weird-ass manuals.:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: I think we should go and gang up on Beefy....we don't want any Gundams or Monster Islands to kill us all....:clown:

[Greyblades]

Indonesia is done. Now all I need to do is get that rule summary off of YLC and find a player for the USA and we can start this thing.

[Caius]

I am willing to play, tell me how.

[Greyblades]

It seems we have our poland.
Even I'm not entirely sure on how this will be played but I'll keep this simple enough so that it doesn't turn into a mile long list.

Each player takes a country from 1980 and uses diplomacy, espionage and millitary actions to acheive whatever they want, be it forge a worldwide alliance or be last superpower standing. It will run as a forum based table top game of nations each country gets a set of stats and the result for each situation will be determined by a dice roll with the required roll set by the stats. As for what you can do it is only restricted by what could be done in the 1980's. Oh and theres an economic portion aswell but due to afew circumstances the guy who was supposed to be sorting that out has quit and has yet to send me a summary of the economic system.

[pevergreen]

I'll play the USA too. :grin2:

[ULC]

It seems we have our poland.
Even I'm not entirely sure on how this will be played but I'll keep this simple enough so that it doesn't turn into a mile long list.

Each player takes a country from 1980 and uses diplomacy, espionage and millitary actions to acheive whatever they want, be it forge a worldwide alliance or be last superpower standing. It will run as a forum based table top game of nations each country gets a set of stats and the result for each situation will be determined by a dice roll with the required roll set by the stats. As for what you can do it is only restricted by what could be done in the 1980's. Oh and theres an economic portion aswell but due to afew circumstances the guy who was supposed to be sorting that out has quit and has yet to send me a summary of the economic system.

I sent you a copy of the economic system like 3 times :wall::laugh4::inquisitive:

[Death is yonder]

I am willing to play, tell me how.

You can always bow to Mother Russia :smash:

[Beefy187]

Is there any truth to this Beefy???:inquisitive:

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: I think we should go and gang up on Beefy....we don't want any Gundams or Monster Islands to kill us all....:clown:

Few Japanese are born with that kind of creativity...I mean wierd imagination.
I guess I qualify :laugh4:

Fear my gundamic Monsters! :beam:

[pevergreen]

I am dissapointed there has been no mention of Zoids, Beefy.

:no:

[Beefy187]

I am dissapointed there has been no mention of Zoids, Beefy.

:no:

Was going to say Zoids, but someone told me that we are in the seventies..

Which leaves me like Astro boy and Majingar Z... :wall:
Animal Mecha soo beats Humanoid Mecha...Arms Slave from Full metal Panic is a exception, because those are cool :beam:

I can go on about the difference between Command wolf, Command wolf AS and Command wolf AC but I'll leave that for later.

[Beskar]

You have Dragon Ball Z.. or was that 1980's where Japanese Martial Artists become Aryan's to become stronger?

[Greyblades]

I sent you a copy of the economic system like 3 times :wall::laugh4::inquisitive:

3 Times? :inquisitive: I havent received any copys yet the closest thing I could find in my pm box was a breif explanation back in 06-02-2009.

[ULC]

3 Times? :inquisitive: I havent received any copys yet the closest thing I could find in my pm box was a breif explanation back in 06-02-2009.

If it's the one detailing the governments, and the modifiers towards determined a countries income, then that is it.

The numbers per one represent what the country gets per turn, and trade worth is how much a country gives to a trade partner.

Otherwise, that was the economic system.

[Centurion1]

Im guessing that all the spots are taken :sweatdrop:
Would have been happy for Poland lol

[Greyblades]

If you want to join pick a country that hasnt been taken yet.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you want, Centurion, you can take China from me.

I'm not going to be able to play.

[Greyblades]

...What! Why?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Simple: Been unemployed for 9 months now, and I've been looking for jobs and nothing is hiring in my area, not stores, not restaurants, not fast food, nothing. I have no money left, and very soon, I'm going to have to sell my computer so I can eat.

[Greyblades]

Oh... well, uh, good luck with that.
Ok then I guess that I should probably just give Caius USA and Centurion China. Role PM's going out now and expect the play thread in about a hour or so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed, I'll need it! :laugh4:

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Thats such a shame, Now I won't have any amusing diplomatic sessions revolving around Hong Kong (I am sure it will be much more serious now.... ~:mecry:)
Good luck finding a new Job AtPG, hope you don't starve to death :sweatdrop:

So Centurion, how do you feel about Hong Kong? :laugh4:

[Greyblades]

Anyone else going to die if they dont drop out?

[Beefy187]

You have Dragon Ball Z.. or was that 1980's where Japanese Martial Artists become Aryan's to become stronger?

Super Sayan :smash:

A friend of mine asked me "why is all the Japanese anime character white?"
Simple. Because in the manga, they are all black and white, so unless the character is black, that fellow automatically becomes white.

And super Sayans have black eyes, so it can't be Nazi praising anime.. :yes:

Check out Hetalia. Now thats a Nazi praising anime (which mocks Italy)

[Beskar]

They have blue eyes over here, also, Beefy likes Hetalia? :gasp: It is yaoi-bait.

[seireikhaan]

They have blue eyes over here, also, Beefy likes Hetalia? :gasp: It is yaoi-bait.
Ok, gents, lets keep this on topic, and not about Beefy's Yaoi tendencies. (just kidding, beefy :clown:)

[Centurion1]

Absolutely love hong kong, love to acquire it for myself mwahahaha

[Jolt]

As long as you GTFO Macau, I'm all cool & drool.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Absolutely love hong kong, love to acquire it for myself mwahahaha

Try it, I dare you!!!!!!!! :furious3: I shall make you regret it for the rest of the 80's! :furious3:
:laugh4::laugh4:

looks like I got no support from Portugal here, thanks a lot! :laugh4:

[Greyblades]

The game thread's up.
Edit: Um I seemed to have had operation flashpoint on the mind recently and have put the wrong title on it. Uh khaan could you use your assistant moderater privelages and change it to cataclysm?

[Beskar]

AskthePizzaGuy is not China anymore?

[Centurion1]

Um turn back a few pages and youll see why. rather a sad story, sorry if i ruined your plans.

[Greyblades]

Niet, for reasons of starvation.

[Beskar]

it's no problem, I didn't see the sudden change.

[Iskander 3.1]

Good luck everyone, and have fun! Sorry I couldn't partake.

[Zim]

Is there an upcoming deadline for first turn orders?

[Beefy187]

They have blue eyes over here, also, Beefy likes Hetalia? :gasp: It is yaoi-bait.

Their body represents their land. So if for example France fondles Italys' chest, it means they are going for their land. And Britain is soo cute :yes:

EDIT: and Hungry is a girl

Good luck everyone. Japan is open for all trades. We are also happy to ship out crazy anime ideas, and yes that includes Yaoi :yes: