Asterix and the Gauls [Concluded] [Archive] - Page 3

Sasaki Kojiro

06-30-2009, 04:02

I believe taka. Can't believe ya'll are voting him, the people suspecting him are probably mafia.

He made a reference to stars ealier. Putting caesarians and pompeiins in would not be something a forger would do--it's something ignoramus would do when editing the pm. And the "three mafia in one go" just sounds like dodgy game design. Take out all those mafia pronto in case there is a recruiting feature, and protect taka.

GH could be guilty we'll see.

atheotes

06-30-2009, 04:17

For the record, Taka, the roman mafia was dead way before Chaotix PM'd me, I harbor no ill-will against him. I'm a little peeved that he would post it, as I was planning on revealing anyway, I was going to try and stretch it and take some gauls out in the process though (Gaulish mafia of course...)

I figured this would happen, I was honestly wondering your faction for my own curiosity, we can't recruit anyway, and I doubt the town would come to my rescue. My fate is sealed at the hands of the gauls tonight however.

Congratulations romans, your leaders are dead, regardless of your protection groups or your vigilante tying up, which was woefully disorganized, I still didn't kill last night as Igno just thrust a write-up on us. I only hope for the roman's sake I can take a gaul with me tonight.

In fact I would like to request that.

Lynch AVSM if you will, but give me the chance to hit a gaul, before I go.

:bow:Thanks

how about, you give us the name of the gaul mafia and we take them out tonight for you? :eyebrows:

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 04:26

If I knew who they were I would've gotten them by now ath... :(

atheotes

06-30-2009, 04:30

If I knew who they were I would've gotten them by now ath... :(

the quote below is from your edited (as in completely removed:laugh4:) post:

I was going to try and stretch it and take some gauls out in the process though (Gaulish mafia of course...)
.....
I only hope for the roman's sake I can take a gaul with me tonight.

In fact I would like to request that.

Lynch AVSM if you will, but give me the chance to hit a gaul, before I go.

i understood it as you knew someone from the gaulish mafia... :bow:

Beskar

06-30-2009, 04:31

Unvote; Vote: AVSM

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 04:34

If I had lasted longer I would've tried to get more gaulish mafia is all, nothing more than that.

Beskar

06-30-2009, 04:37

Actually, I don't think taka is the investigator. I believe he is a cover investigator.

Tratorix

06-30-2009, 05:24

GH could be guilty we'll see.

My hunch has him and Quintus as part of the Gallic mafia. I have been wrong before though. If there is another investigator role, perhaps they should look into it. :idea2:

Looks like I'm probably wrong about taka, since Split confessed and all. Apologies.

Edit: Also, the two mafia who aren't lynched today should be nightkilled, since they can probably recruit. Vig groups, assemble!

Beskar

06-30-2009, 05:43

I don't think we have the numbers to ensure them killed, they can defend themselves, remember.

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 05:45

I already said we can't recruit, if we could we would, we can't recruit anyone to our positions. One of us had a special thing for recruiting gauls to romans, but that won't work.

If you want to kill us, you can't, we can protect each other.

Just trust us for one night to try and hit gaul mafia?

Beskar

06-30-2009, 05:46

actually, if there are two kill groups on you, you need two defence.

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 05:48

Alright whatever then, would you just trust us?

The most we could do is hit two town roles, probably nobodies, or we could try and hit gaulish mafia. Anyone who opposes us taking a stab at gaulish mafia... well *shrug*

It'd be obvious where their thoughts lie.

Beskar

06-30-2009, 05:54

I am not sure on your power, but I presume you can defend yourselves. You could try defending one of you, would ensured you survived the night, but then, all you would have done was just survive a round, to no gain.

You could try targeting taka for example, but he would most likely be defended and even then, it seems very much like a cover role so you would have just killed a random townie and all you would have done would probably help the Gaul Mafia win the game at best.

Depends on what you want to do really. Defending is pointless, and attacking taka would probably be futile which probably just leaves random killings as your choice to try your best to get rid of the Gaul Mafia. On top of that, do you even know who they are?

Either way, you are pretty screwed.

atheotes

06-30-2009, 05:55

i am interested to see who split and iskander protecting each other will turn out... but the good news is we will all know what we should be doing.
kill split and iskander, protect taka. hopefully we can get everyone tied up, including hte gaul mafia. taka can investigate GH... my gut says beskar is mafia as well...

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 05:58

Taka will obviously be protected tonight, using both of us to attack him would be a waste too...

I already tell you, give me two suspects and let us take a crack at it, it's better than nothing.

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 06:03

Chaotix and john if he's working with him, we need a protection group on taka most urgently!

maybe two seperate groups to be safe, then we need kill groups on all remaining mafia members. It doesn't matter as much about proving people are busy for the night, what matters is killing the mafia and protecting taka!

Infact we should have several groups all doing the same actions... ths way the mafia can wreck as few as possible...

Also here is a list of taka doubters and voters...

GH (voter)
CDF (doubter)
Beskar (voter, quickly changed though before the confession)
John (doubter)

Edit:

Hmm your offer is tempting... GH is a main suspect at the moment... would you be willing to target him ?

We could vig one of you whilst the other kills GH...

Would this be a fair deal ?

Obviously we would kill the remaining player the next day but it would give you a chance at some glory and the town some practical help...

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 06:06

I'm dead anyway, point them out and I'll do it.

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 06:16

Well i can't by myself confirm to go after GH, from what i gathered from people's posts he seemed to be a top suspect.. especially for doubting Taka...

If others are happy to go along with it i am happy that we leave split alive tonight whilst we vig Iksander and split kills GH, tomorrow we lynch split...

Does this sound like a good plan to most of the town ?

atheotes

06-30-2009, 06:21

we did not see the Roman General's role PM... what if he has a recruitment ability... it will align with Split asking Chaotix for his faction as well... :juggle2:

if we get our groups organized properly it is only a matter of time before we find the gaul mafia... so why do we want to take a chance with known mafia - well thats my take on it :shrug:

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 06:25

I already said to chaotix I was asking out of my own personal curiosity. Aside from that, we can't recruit someone to our level :/

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 06:31

Tratorix

06-30-2009, 06:32

I already said to chaotix I was asking out of my own personal curiosity. Aside from that, we can't recruit someone to our level :/

Yes, but you are mafia, and therefore we shouldn't trust you just so you might have a chance at killing a some gauls. Taka claims there is another investigator and after you guys are dead, we know we only need to look for gauls. It's too much risk, too little reward.

Edit: Grizz, in Rubicon only the leader could recruit and only if both his seconds were dead. We can lynch one today, take out one tonight and finish them of tommorrow with a lynch. They shouldn't have a chance to recruit even if they can.

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 06:33

Too much risk of what? If we could recruit we could do it ANYWAY in the night, killing us won't stop it...

atheotes

06-30-2009, 06:37

It is a bit of a gamble... and you'll have to excuse me for not automatically taking the word of the mafia...

Alternatively if recruiting is done as it is in Rubicon then it requires a night action... we could not let split or iksander now which one we are going to kill...

This way they both have to put orders in to kill Gh (or other chosen suspect) and we could possibly detect thier deciet if we kill the one who did order to kill GH and left the one who is recruiting alive... we would know (as suspect wouldn't be killed)... this depends on luck slightly...

question is, why do we even need to take this risk? if they end up recruiting someone we will have to fishing for one more mafia and what if he, as the general, could recruit more (which i highly doubt).... it only makes a mess... all this is unnecessary and i am firm in my belief that we should not trust the mafia. lets c what the rest have to say.

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 06:47

Trust me, the gaul mafia will kill us tonight. Regardless of if you want it to happen...

Beskar

06-30-2009, 06:49

Nah, they would work with the civilian groups in order not to bring suspect to themselves.

Splitpersonality

06-30-2009, 06:54

Hm...

Chaotix

06-30-2009, 07:16

Err... I hope you know that no good can come from trying to negotiate with the mafia.

John and I have worked something out with the night actions that will keep everyone busy, get rid of the Roman mafia, and keep taka from dying. The only thing we need to happen is for everyone to actually follow the orders.:whip:

naut

06-30-2009, 07:35

Well we only have to lynch one of the three to see if taka is telling the truth. The write-up will surely reveal whether he is lying or not.

Tally anybody?

Vote: AVSM

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 07:43

Negotiation with the mafia isn't a completely bad idea... especially in games like this where there are two opposite sides and the town in the middle...

As a mafia member of one side i would certainly route for a town victory over my opposing mafia... i'd probably think the same in a regular mafia game but especially in one like this!

Regardless i seem to be in a minority opinion here... and actively working against group orders to enable a kill would just be very unhelpful and add to the confusion unnessecarily...

I am ready for your orders and will happily kill any mafia or protect taka...

Perhaps you should send them out now so there is absolutely no excuse for non compliance.

As a final note perhaps you should put those you trust most to follow orders onto protecting taka, failing to kill the mafia off in one round is less of a disaster then allowing taka to die... i think...

Edit:maybe two groups protecting taka incase the other mafia get lucky and are in taka protection group... with two groups the chances of one having a mafia in it are much reduced...

pevergreen

06-30-2009, 08:16

Its a bad idea.

See Netherworld mafia.

TinCow was revealed as the vigilante, but he played on and on about not killing anymore and only doing what the town said.

He was protected, got enough kills that he started his own mafia family, working with the pro-town and the insider in the mafia (me, i could go mafia or my own mafia family) and had me get rid of protown, he got rid of us and then won the game.

Lynch them and be done with it, then its just us vs. gaulish mafia.

Death is yonder

06-30-2009, 11:07

Quintus Kill Group
Greyblades- did not act, according to result pms and his own words.
Beskar- did not act, according to result pms and his own words.
johnhughtom- have his results, these are the correct ones.
Death is yonder- have his results, but they are fake! He still must have acted, however...

In all honesty, I just pressed quote and copied the whole thing here.

Unvote; Johnhughthom

With Taka's pm looking genuine and still full of mistakes, I'm inclined to believe that all of this is just plenty of typos on Ignoramus's part which have caused confusion.

Heck, I can even name you the exact time that I got the pm, which is 1.23 am GMT.

The EXACT wording was "one of them hasn't arrived yet"

I'm willing to overlook the possibility that John is lying as the game seems to be prevalent with typos, but I'm wondering of the extremely quick bandwagon on me. Either that, or Beskar or Greyblades has for some weird reason, intentionally lied, and have actually carried out the night action.

Vote:AVSM

Cut off the head, and the body won't be walking around any time soon.

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 13:15

I'm willing to overlook the possibility that John is lying

Can you please explain how there is a possiblity I am lying as we know at least two people failed to send in two orders. The only possibilities are, you sent in orders but faked your role pm or Ignoramus made a mistake. I already decided Ignoramus made a mistake so please explain how you can have any suspicion of me?

Death is yonder

06-30-2009, 13:19

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 13:24

I'm leaving the possibilities open. 100% sure rarely happens for me.

At most, I give you the benefit of the doubt, which is what I'm doing now.

Probably in light of the latest entire reveal of the entire roman mafia family.

Indeed there is always a possibility, I would simply like to hear your logic for how you can be suspicious of me from that situation. The only doubt is on you.

Death is yonder

06-30-2009, 13:34

My exact pm from Igno states "one of them"

Yours, states "2 of them"

Igno however, is prone to typos and mistakes as we have all seen, and thus, this could be the reason.

But, 1 and 2 are totally different things. I seriously doubt even though Igno makes typos here and there, he could mess up a thing that TOTALLY affects the gameplay and outcome due to its implications that one of us is lying.

Hence, the suspicion. Do you need more explanation?

In the possibility that Igno did not make a mistake, one of us is certainly lying, and both of us thinks its the other.

Which is why, I would be suspicious, cause WIFOM and all I know I'm telling the truth (or at least whats presented to me) and would wonder why the other would seek to lie. It COULD be that your a townie who is trying to seek faction victory, but that would be silly and stupid when we could all cooperate easier for the united town victory like in Rubicon.

That is why, I am suspicious of you, but I am willing to forgo it at least temporarily due to its confusion and possible mistakes from host.

Beskar

06-30-2009, 13:38

I just realised, taka is completely pro-town, etc, etc.

I been defending him for a couple of nights and I completely forgot all about it.

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 13:42

Death is yonder

06-30-2009, 13:53

So acting on my suspicions is suspicious?

How deliciously ironic! :clown:

Case Closed, settled.

In future I would suggest to the conflicting groups to look VERY closely.

The people with stuff to hide might use Igno's errors as an excuse to make conflicting pms.

:bow:

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 13:54

The people with stuff to hide might use Igno's errors as an excuse to make conflicting pms.

Been worried about that myself.

Greyblades

06-30-2009, 14:45

Well we only have to lynch one of the three to see if taka is telling the truth. The write-up will surely reveal whether he is lying or not.

Tally anybody?

Vote: AVSM

Splitpersonality is practically confessing and you think taka's lying?

atheotes

06-30-2009, 15:51

anyone know when this round is supposed to end? sorry if i missed any message about it.

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 15:53

00:00 GMT Wednesday, we are in British Summer Time here in the UK so that makes us GMT +1 right? If so 9 hours away.

Iskander 3.1

06-30-2009, 17:10

Le Sigh...Unvote: taka, Vote: Pevergreen

Quintus.JC

06-30-2009, 17:16

Huh, missed the bulk of the show.

Taka's reveal looks geniue, he didn't have any heat on him when made his reveal. Now with Chaotix this thing looks confirmed. GH is suspcious because he missed last night's protection, and then he attempted to overide the Taka verdict.

Vote: AVSM

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 17:47

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 17:50

I think the night actions should be sent out as soon as possible so we have the maximum amount of time to prepare (get orders in) and so there isn't a good excuse for messing up...

(i will drone this into someones head eventually...)

It's already arranged who will be doing what, there's no point sending out the pms until the day phase is over though. I'll leave it up to Chaotix if he wants to post the list here.

LittleGrizzly

06-30-2009, 17:56

Well i figure this will give you the maximum amount of time to deal with any problems that arise...

Like unhelpful players, confused players, players pertending to be confused...

If you also get people to send thier orders to you and Chaotix at the same time they send them to Ignoramus then you now everything is going to go fine unless someone suddenly retracts thier order... which equals mafia...

Basically i think it would remove any possible excuses...

Chaotix

06-30-2009, 19:00

Yes, when you send in your orders for the night, please cc either us or your teammates, to prove that you have sent in the action. That is a must, and will relieve most of the confusion.

I'm not revealing the lists just yet. It's better that everyone is kept in the dark except for their own group; that way we'll have less chance of the mafia killing the conflict targets and making it look like a vigilante's work.

johnhughthom

06-30-2009, 21:12

Either Chaotix or myself will pm everybody with their orders, cc whichever of us sent your orders. cc your teammates if you wish, but it's more important Chaotix and I know who has sent orders in so we can chase people up if necessary.

Caius

06-30-2009, 21:49

I dont buy it, but Im not sure if its worth it. Why? Its like Cicero and Cato. Look at the PM.

Unity - If you locate Vexatius Sinusitus (Sinusitus), both you and he will become immune to execution (lynching) during the Day Phase. In order to prove that you have located Sinusitus, you must send me (Ignoramus) a PM telling me who Sinusitus is and Sinusitus must send me a PM telling me who you are. Locating Sinusitus may prove difficult, but perhaps he might recognize you if you mentioned a silver star...
vote:AVSM

What do you have to say?

GeneralHankerchief

06-30-2009, 23:27

In response to the "taka's PM is TOO out there" allegations:

Let me take a quote from a very wise man in deciding on whether or not to believe a very outrageous, but very fake, claim (emphasis mine):

If you are going to lie and pull it off you need to:

1. be a sociopath like W.J. Clinton so that you actually believe your own lie. This is not workable, however, unless you're face-to-face.

2. lie by nudging one or two things off the truth path so that so much of it reads/feels true that the small changed slip by unnoticed. There was nothing small about Hanky's reveal.

3. pump out a lie Goebbels-style, as in the bigger the better. This strategy gains its credibility from a belief on the part of the viewer that nobody would be able to make something like this up -- "ts too big for that."

I think here we may be seeing another one of those, and CDF's defense set off alarm bells in my head.

Now, there is the distinct possibility I may be wrong, as the amount of effort I have invested in this game is certainly not as much as most of you other guys. So in this following situation, I defer to all of your judgements: taka has asked for my role PM, citing the fact that it will make his investigations easier. Should I give it to him?

atheotes

06-30-2009, 23:47

interesting... i still think he should investigate you. because with so many PMs out in the open, it might be easy for you make a fake one.
the fact that split has practically confessed has given a great deal of credibility for taka. :shrug:

Chaotix

07-01-2009, 01:47

He's done that with myself and LittleGrizzly as well, GH.

I think his reveal is genuine based on the fact that his investigation was genuine, based on the fact that I got splitpersonality to admit he was guilty.

taka

07-01-2009, 02:05

just to let you know, if ive asked for a role pm and non is given, i will investigate you and post your role up to see if anyone thinks its fishy. i will have a chat about a few trusted ones about this and see what they think as well.

Ignoramus

07-01-2009, 05:20

Voting closed.

Sorry about the longer than usual period. I just had my 17th birthday yesterday, so I was unable to do much with the game.

taka

07-01-2009, 05:29

ah! happy birthday then! hope ya had a good time :beam:

soo..... have you cleared ur inbox yet? i wanna send you stuff but its full lol

Ignoramus

07-01-2009, 06:14

I did thanks.

I'm just clearing stuff now.

pevergreen

07-01-2009, 06:29

Happy birthday! I had friends when I was 17...funny how things change in a year. :grin2:

Ignoramus always has a full PM box. Its rule no. 1 in the throne room :tongue:

GeneralHankerchief

07-01-2009, 12:15

Okay, sending taka the role PM now.

And a belated happy birthday, Ignoramus! :medievalcheers:

naut

07-01-2009, 15:47

Hope your birthday was fun! :balloon:

Quintus.JC

07-01-2009, 15:54

Happy birthday Ignoramus :birthday2:

Death is yonder

07-01-2009, 15:58

Happy belated birthday Ignoramus, hope you enjoyed it!

:cake:

Caius

07-01-2009, 21:11

Yes, happy birthday.

Marshal Murat

07-02-2009, 00:39

Can't stay in mates, got serious schoolwork (and the wifi in rooms is down!:dizzy2::wall::thumbsdown: )

Ignoramus

07-02-2009, 01:14

Morning dawned once more, and in the end the vote was a one sided affair with Delegate taka declaring that he had proof of who the Roman mafia were. Many were convinced, but more than a few were suspicious.

In the end AVSM was guilty.

AVSM: 11 (taka, El Diablo, atheotes, Chaotix, Beskar, pevergreen, Greyblades, Beskar, Psychonaut, Death is yonder, Quintus JC.)
taka: GeneralHankerchief, Splitpersonality, Iskander 3.1,,
Marshal Murat: CountArach
El Diablo: LittleGrizzly
Death is yonder:, Shinseikhaan
Abstain: Cultured Drizzt fan
Not voting: Done Later

Alive: (23/35)
Greyblades
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Iskander 3.1
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
LittleGrizzly
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera
pevergreen
CountArach
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
El Diablo
King Jan III Sobieski
GeneralHankerchief

Murdered: (9)
Sasaki Kojiro
Captain Blackadder
Jolt
Beefy187
Tratorix
Askthepizzaguy
Yaropolk
Beaver
Phog_of_War

Executed: (3)
navarro951
Khazaar
A Very Super Market

Phog_of_War and King Jan III Sobieski have not voted in 3 successive rounds, and will be replaced.

It is now night 4. The phase will end at 12:30 GMT, July 5.

I'll be away until Monday

Askthepizzaguy

07-02-2009, 01:26

I volunteer for replacement.

Chaotix

07-02-2009, 01:53

Err... Phog of War's dead anyway, so he doesn't really have to be replaced, right?

CountArach

07-02-2009, 15:39

Sorry for my lack of activity anyone, but there is a big sale on at work and I'm working far more hours than I anticipated. Certainly for the next 3 days my time will be sparse.

atheotes

07-02-2009, 21:33

It is now night 4. The phase will end at 12:30 GMT, July 5.

I'll be away until Monday

Ignoramus, your PM box is full... i need to send my night orders and i wont be able to get on to the internet till monday... i will leave in another 6 hours :help: i hope you respond before that.

johnhughthom

07-02-2009, 22:30

No point in anybody sending Ignoramus pms until Monday as he said he'll be away until then. I guess we better hope he checks on here in between, otherwise we are pretty much on hold.

Quintus.JC

07-02-2009, 22:41

Monday huh... I'm afraid I have to drop out because I'm leaving for holiday on Sunday and will be unlikely to have access to internet then. Replacements are welcome. :bow:

Still innocent :grin:

Tratorix

07-02-2009, 22:54

Monday huh... I'm afraid I have to drop out because I'm leaving for holiday on Sunday and will be unlikely to have access to internet then. Replacements are welcome. :bow:

Still innocent :grin:

FOS: Whoever replaces Quintus :idea2:

Askthepizzaguy

07-02-2009, 23:03

Yeah, FOS that replacement player... yeah...

wait...

:help:

Did I just volunteer to come back to life so you guys could have the satisfaction of lynching me?

:wall:

Quintus.JC

07-02-2009, 23:14

FOS: Whoever replaces Quintus :idea2:

If you wanted to be my replacement you could've just asked instead of requesting for your own lynch next round. :grin2:

Did I just volunteer to come back to life so you guys could have the satisfaction of lynching me?

:wall:

They've been waiting for this, don't make them dissapointed. :grin3:

Askthepizzaguy

07-02-2009, 23:17

:idea:

Bail.

:burnout:

See ya...

LittleGrizzly

07-03-2009, 02:04

Seen as theres one or two that need replacing does this mean we lynch pizza a few times ?

Jolt

07-04-2009, 04:01

I'd be willing to replace him.

atheotes

07-06-2009, 20:27

hmm... no activity in the last 3 days? i guess we are still waiting for Ignoramus to get back.

Beskar

07-06-2009, 21:40

Looking for replacement GM?

johnhughthom

07-06-2009, 22:01

He did say he would be away until today.

Ignoramus

07-07-2009, 12:58

Sorry guys. I'm back and have cleared my clogged inbox.

Beskar

07-09-2009, 13:38

This game is definitely not running how it should...

Death is yonder

07-09-2009, 14:06

Umm... its Thursday here.

pevergreen

07-09-2009, 23:12

Friday here...
Coming up on a week with no actions.

Normally this would be closed and the next started...:shrug:

atheotes

07-10-2009, 03:25

come on Ignoramus... hate to see this game end like this :whip:

Ignoramus

07-10-2009, 07:48

Sorry guys for the big delay. The kills are going to be posted shortly.

Ignoramus

07-10-2009, 08:53

spL1tp3r50naL1y was hurrying home to his hut. The night was already late, and he needed all his sleep. As he approached his hut, he saw a group of men standing outside, who looked none too happy. Quickly realising that they were out to get him, he turned and fled, but as they chased he could see that they would catch him. He screeched to a halt, and attempted to plead with his attackers, but an axe sliced through his shoulder, and soon spears, staves, and even swords were doing their deadly work.

Cronos Impera trudged back to his lodgings. He was thoroughly sick of the whole conference, and its gory results. He’d always maintained it was a bad idea, and now he was triumphing that he’d been proved right.

As he turned the corner he bumped into a group of men.

“Pardon me.” he mumbled nonchalantly as he moved to walked around.

Suddenly, the dreadful thought hit him, and he fled before being chased down by the men, who were yielding a variety of weapons. His mutilated body was barely recongisable.

Whistling to himself as he walked, he started to walk back to his lodgings. As he paused to unlock the door, he heard hurried footsteps behind him. He whirled around, but the next thing he heard was the sound of swords piercing his flesh. Sinking to the ground he soon breathed his last.

---

As dawn fell upon the village once again, the delegates awoke to what had become an expected occurrence - more dead bodies. This time it appeared that both a Gaul and a Roman had perished.

Alive: (21/35)
Greyblades
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Iskander 3.1
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
LittleGrizzly
pevergreen
CountArach
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
El Diablo
TinCow
GeneralHankerchief

Murdered: (11)
Sasaki Kojiro
Captain Blackadder
Jolt
Beefy187
Tratorix
Askthepizzaguy
Yaropolk
Beaver
Phog_of_War
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera

Executed: (3)
navarro951
Khazaar
A Very Super Market

It is now Day 4. This voting phase will end on Monday, July 13, 2:00 AM GMT.

King Jan III Sobieski has been replaced by TinCow.

atheotes

07-10-2009, 15:42

why is Iskander still alive :inquisitive:

did people miss orders? :no:

taka

07-10-2009, 16:18

Whistling to himself as he walked, he started to walk back to his lodgings. As he paused to unlock the door, he heard hurried footsteps behind him. He whirled around, but the next thing he heard was the sound of swords piercing his flesh. Sinking to the ground he soon breathed his last.

this seems incomplete

also, anyone received pms?

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2009, 16:21

I have not.
but then It has been a long time. I am not sure If I even sent in orders..... :sweatdrop:

atheotes

07-10-2009, 16:25

i did not get any night result PMs...

Death is yonder

07-10-2009, 16:33

I think that Igno only had the time to post the kills, but not the night results pm yet. We'll probably get them later. :no:

Caius

07-10-2009, 16:48

I haven't got a PM.

Chaotix

07-10-2009, 17:22

Well it appears one vig group succeeded, but the one on AVSM failed. Also, I'd say our protection group on Cronos failed as well, leaving the vigilantes to kill him, too.

My vote is clear. We still have one Roman mafia to cleanse this town of before we move one. Nothing saying we can't start speculating about the gauls early, though.

Vote: Iskander, because for those of you who don't remember, he is the last confirmed Roman mafioso.

taka

07-10-2009, 17:44

Vote: Iskander

hope i get my results soon

Beskar

07-10-2009, 18:23

Vote: Iskander 3.1

Who was the group who was meant to lynch him and who didn't protect Cronas?

atheotes

07-10-2009, 18:30

Splitpersonality

07-10-2009, 18:58

I followed orders and stuck in my townie vig group, fat lot of good it did me.

atheotes

07-10-2009, 18:59

I followed orders and stuck in my townie vig group, fat lot of good it did me.

you were part of a vig group? :dizzy2::inquisitive:

Splitpersonality

07-10-2009, 19:03

It was one of those kill and protect things, I was told that the gauls "wouldn't attack, for fear of being outed"

Brilliant.

FoS: Everyone who missed night actions

GeneralHankerchief

07-10-2009, 20:14

Well, I sent in my orders, as Chaotix can confirm, although unfortunately it's not displayed in the write-up as well. I assume taka will be by to confirm my innocence once and for all once the follow-up PMs are sent.

Vote: Iskander

Caius

07-10-2009, 20:23

I have to apologize. I forgot to send my orders, someone asked me to do that. But the thing is that I sent the order, but Ignoramus PM was full, he left and I completly forgot to send it. I'm sorry, it won't happen again. I sent the PM warning this, but I don't remember who, let me check in my PM box.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2009, 20:50

You know what, I have lost this game Vote: Taka.

seireikhaan

07-10-2009, 22:23

Vote: taka

I'm still not buying that role.

Greyblades

07-10-2009, 22:26

Jeez they're practically confessing but thats not enough for you?

Hey didn't you accused him of lying about his role last turn?
Deja-vu all over again.

taka

07-10-2009, 22:26

You know what, I have lost this game Vote: Taka.

huh? to me, that somehow tells me you're one of the gaulish mafia......

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2009, 22:28

yeah that must be it. I am not Mafia, but I have still lost.

taka

07-10-2009, 22:31

@khaan

AVSM was proven guilty last round, what other proof do you want?

@CDF

i'm confused at why ur wifom'ing. you know that i had no suspicions of you

White_eyes:D

07-10-2009, 22:43

I was part of the Vig group on Crons....Where the hell was the Protect group?? (I knew I never should have sent my PM.....)

Only person I can confirm, who went with the Vig was Khazzer....but there was like...five people for it??? (Incase one didn't show up or mess the PM...I guess) but why did the Protection group fail?? was there even one???:inquisitive: Vote:Iskander

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2009, 22:54

I have lost the game regardless.

Beskar

07-10-2009, 22:58

It sounds like you are admitting to being a gaul-mafia.

If that is the case, you want Taka to investigate you, as you know you won't get killed and you are either not a gaul mafia (a bodyguard) or have access to abilities which can protect your fellow mafia friends from investigation.

In essence, your actions can be seen as very anti-town.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-10-2009, 22:59

I am not Gaul aligned. that is all I want to say.

taka

07-10-2009, 23:03

my prediction is that he is roman and can only have an all roman victory. without the roman mafia who are able to kill the gauls, they have pretty much lost.

Beskar

07-10-2009, 23:06

oh, you one of those Roman roles where you need to kill all the gauls to win? Similar to Yaropolk's?

atheotes

07-10-2009, 23:07

Beskar

07-10-2009, 23:09

I doubt that, but it is a good point. I think there needs to be another night in between for it to work.

White_eyes:D

07-10-2009, 23:09

My guess...:shrug: Cultured Drizzt fan....he keeps on going about how he lost....:juggle2:

Beskar

07-10-2009, 23:10

He could be a distraction, you can't overrule that either.

Tratorix

07-10-2009, 23:10

something of more concern is if the mafia had recruiting abilities... Iskander was alive last night and we can be pretty sure that he is now hte Roman General... what if he had recruited someone last night :sweatdrop:

In Rubicon the mafia wouldn't be promoted until the day phase after the leader died. If Iskander is the general, he probably can't recruit until the night phase.

atheotes

07-10-2009, 23:16

I doubt that, but it is a good point. I think there needs to be another night in between for it to work.

In Rubicon the mafia wouldn't be promoted until the day phase after the leader died. If Iskander is the general, he probably can't recruit until the night phase.

thanks for the clarification guys :bow:... i hope it works the same way as Rubicon and guess we will know if the kills roll in...

Vote: Iskander

now we need to Ignoramus to send us the result PMs :yes:

Chaotix

07-10-2009, 23:57

Yes we really can't tell what happened until we have the results.

Anyway, here were the groups that were supposed to send in orders:

taka Protect Group
Chaotix
GeneralHankerchief
LittleGrizzly
King Jan III

splitpersonality Kill Group
atheotes
Quintus
CountArach
Death is Yonder

Iskander Kill Group
Beskar
Marshal Murat
El Diablo
Cultured Drizzt Fan

Jan III Protect Group
pevergreen
Greyblades
johnhughthom
Cronos Impera

Jan III Kill Group
Psychonaut
Shinseikhaan
white_eyes
Caius

The King Jan III groups were later changed to Cronos, because we believed that he was going to be WoG'ed anyway.

We also placed each of the remaining Roman mafia members in the conflict groups, and told them they would probably survive, even as they were being vig-killed. This is why the groups couldn't be made public earlier.

Beskar

07-11-2009, 00:05

Cultured Drizzt Fan must have messed up the orders in my group then. Hopefully it will say only one person hasn't turned up then.

Jolt

07-11-2009, 02:01

One question. Who were the stupid people that killed me? (Sorry, not been following)

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-11-2009, 02:11

I have done only what I had to to assist my commanders. :yes:

Beskar

07-11-2009, 02:29

Commander Underpants.

Iskander 3.1

07-11-2009, 02:42

Vote: Iskander

(will they call my bluff?)

Chaotix

07-11-2009, 03:49

Yes, sir, your bluff has been called. If you wish to assist us in sentencing you to death, by all means do so. It is an extra vote to add to our lead.

:2thumbsup:

:clown:

Caius

07-12-2009, 03:19

So, the PM's didn't come or what?

Death is yonder

07-12-2009, 03:27

Still nothing. :juggle2::juggle2:

Askthepizzaguy

07-12-2009, 08:06

Am I still dead? Where's Revivapizzatrix?

Death is yonder

07-12-2009, 10:54

Still being kneaded and baked at the moment ~;)

El Diablo

07-13-2009, 01:40

Vote: Iskander

I put my order in but still no night action pm.

Death is yonder

07-13-2009, 10:26

Oh right, nearly forgot.

Hope I'm not too late, vote:Iskander

Edit: Still no results pm. Igno!!!

Chaotix

07-13-2009, 18:34

Perhaps we should just say the town wins... I mean, we were bound to catch the Gauls, anyway...

:clown:

Askthepizzaguy

07-13-2009, 19:04

Oh noes! The Gauls are good, the gauls are great... and stuff. Although if town wins that's fine too.

Caius

07-13-2009, 20:58

The more that wins, the better.

Iskander 3.1

07-14-2009, 00:23

I put my order in but still no night action pm.

Remember what Ignoramus said, that mafia weren't getting night order pms?

Unvote: Iskander; Vote El Diablo
:beam:

El Diablo

07-14-2009, 02:44

Ha ha - that would make EVERYONE mafia.

No one has got the results of their night actions as a pm yet!

Nice try tho!!

Iskander 3.1

07-14-2009, 02:47

Aw rats, it was worth a shot. :smile:

Chaotix

07-14-2009, 04:24

FoS: Iskander, for being suspicious...

Oh wait.

Beskar

07-14-2009, 04:38

FoS: Ignoramus

johnhughthom

07-15-2009, 01:16

This phase has over-run by two days, we haven't heard from the host in five and the last round lasted six (I think) days. Time to call it a day on this one?:skull:

pevergreen

07-15-2009, 01:19

Which means its time to call the pizza guy. We need some recruiting up in here. (Next game is capo 3, no?)

El Diablo

07-15-2009, 01:29

Sad - as it is a good idea for a mafia game.
But it has be lagging for quiet some time now....

Askthepizzaguy

07-15-2009, 04:05

If Capo III is next, I'll do my very best to assist Seamus, assuming he wants me to.

Tratorix

07-15-2009, 04:18

Well, in my professional opinion, this game is dead. Gone before its time, I'm afraid. It's quite sad. :shame:

Iskander 3.1

07-15-2009, 05:55

I'm alive! Total Mafia Victory suckers.

Caius

07-15-2009, 06:00

I'm alive! Total Mafia Victory suckers.
I'd vote you, but lets wait Igno to pop up. Maybe he comes and say this is over. Else, start revealing.

Beskar

07-15-2009, 06:23

I was a townie, for real.

I wanted to work with the Mafia, but they turned me down. :cry:

A Very Super Market

07-15-2009, 06:51

You are gallic, I presume.

Guys, if he isn't planning to end it, and something has just come up, revealing will ruin the entire game.

pevergreen

07-15-2009, 06:57

its definately not the way to go, until either the mods or the host says its over.

Its ruined a number of games in the past, the host was just away for a while (before we implemented the new host rules)

Askthepizzaguy

07-15-2009, 08:27

I was the super-mafia. I had ten votes and eleven kills, but I forgot to use them.

Oops.

Death is yonder

07-15-2009, 11:31

I was the super-mafia. I had ten votes and eleven kills, but I forgot to use them.

Oops.

:jawdrop:

TinCow

07-15-2009, 13:26

King Jan III Sobieski has been replaced by TinCow.[/B]

The above his hilarious. I was never asked whether I was still available to serve as a replacement. I was never notified that I had been used as a replacement (just found out now by reading this). I have, in fact, never been contacted by Ignoramus in any manner. I don't even have a role PM. Under the circumstances, please consider whatever role I have to be a WoG/suicide.

pevergreen

07-15-2009, 13:34

6. A host has to put in his/her rules the expected duration of day and night phases. This cannot be longer than 48 hours (the preferred duration is 24 hours). There will be allowance of extensions to phases, but only under certain conditions. One would be certain lynch conditions. But this should not bring the phase to more than 72 hours total. Make sure you get a moderator’s approval to extensions.
Abusing this rule will result in closed games.

Waiting on a mod.

Beskar

07-15-2009, 16:28

You are gallic, I presume.

I was British, not Gallic, and I had the ability to send anonymous messages to the gallic mafia, which allowed them to reply. I never got any replies from them, so I guess they just thought it was fishy and threw it away or most likely answer is, Ignoramus never passed on my message to them, or their message to me, so the Gallic Mafia might be wondering what the hell I am on about.

GeneralHankerchief

07-15-2009, 19:00

Paging khaan... you can lock threads, y'know. :juggle2:

seireikhaan

07-15-2009, 20:06

Paging khaan... you can lock threads, y'know. :juggle2:
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna wait 'till I had gotten confirmation from Sigurd and Sasaki, but in lieu of increasing demand + absence from host, I will at least temporarily lock it.

Sigurd

07-17-2009, 15:54

I have been in contact with Ignoramus and we have agreed to see if we can finish this. I have offered to help and will for now do the tallies.
If you have problems sending Ignoramus PMs, you can send them to me and I will make sure he gets them.

Consider this day phase over.

Tally:
Iskander : 8 (atheotes, Beskar, Chatorix, DeathiY, Diablo, GH, taka, WE:D)
taka : 2 (CDF, khaan)
El Diablo : 1 (Iskander)

not voting : 8 (Caius, CA, johnhug, LG, MM, pever, Psycho, Quintus)

Iskander is the one you have chosen to be lynched.

atheotes

07-17-2009, 15:58

Hopefully everyone involved will see that the game is acitve again....

Death is yonder

07-17-2009, 16:01

Pretty much I hope :juggle2::juggle2:

Beskar

07-17-2009, 16:55

Sigurd, there was a problem with results of the night phase as well. We got no actions so don't hope if any Mafia, etc got shown up.

Sigurd

07-17-2009, 18:58

Sigurd, there was a problem with results of the night phase as well. We got no actions so don't hope if any Mafia, etc got shown up.

Right... so you guys are waiting for the results of actions during night 4 other than the two kills: spL1tp3r50naL1ty and Cronos Impera.

Then you lynched Iskander and are ready for the gory details of his execution.
Then... when all of this is in place you will begin sending in your PMs for night 5.
??

Beskar

07-17-2009, 20:09

Right... so you guys are waiting for the results of actions during night 4 other than the two kills: spL1tp3r50naL1ty and Cronos Impera.

Then you lynched Iskander and are ready for the gory details of his execution.
Then... when all of this is in place you will begin sending in your PMs for night 5.
??

Yes,

As far as I know, taka has an investigation result he needs to receive, I was in a failed group, and groups gets a message saying if it succeeded or how many failed. So everyone in the groups need actions. (other members and other groups need theirs)

There would be various senators with role actions (if they used them) and possibly results for the Mafia teams of their results.

So far, no one has had the results of the previous nights actions which they conducted.

It is based on Rubicon system, which involves lots of PM's. TinCow could possibly tell you how its a lot of work.

GeneralHankerchief

07-17-2009, 23:57

Checking in. I'm still here.

Beskar

07-18-2009, 00:12

Oh, and as you said, we are awaiting Iskander's death and to send tonights actions too, but would like the actions of the night before to know what to do for the night.

Yeah, sounds complicated, but it is because Ignoramus isn't up to date with any of the work.

Iskander 3.1

07-18-2009, 05:36

I'm not dead yet, I'm just resting. Pining for the fjords.

Askthepizzaguy

07-20-2009, 09:19

:bump:

This thread has beautiful plumage.

Sigurd

07-20-2009, 13:35

I am all about handing our second chances.
Ignoramus did send me some of his files containing the results of previous round. But they are MACOSX files and I can't make any sense of it. There is an thumbnail jpg showing stats in a spreadsheet, but that is only for round 1 and a bit of 2.
I lack the program to read the entire thing and have PM'ed Ignoramus about getting a reworked version. Either in PDF format or Open Office.

He mentioned that he would not be on until today. If nothing happens today, I am pulling the plug.
Sorry, but I can only hand out this bit of mercy before it encroaches on justice. (biblical dejavu anyone?). :shame:

Beskar

07-20-2009, 17:56

Put extensions for example ".doc" on the end, and they should work, if he used office.

Sigurd

07-21-2009, 08:50

Put extensions for example ".doc" on the end, and they should work, if he used office.

I am unsure of the how the files correlate. There are a few folders with very small sized files and a huge xml file where all the data is.

Anyway, I have received an answer from Ignoramus and he is sorry about the whole thing. He feels he underestimated the amount of work this requires and that he made som mistakes earlier in the game. In all fairness he throws in the towel.
We thank him for his efforts.

This game is officially closed.

Feel free to share your roles and strategies with the other players. You have 48 hours before I permanently lock this thread.
I don't want any sour comments towards the game host.

Beefy187

07-21-2009, 09:26

I was queen Cleopatra..

Neutral role with a ability to sleep with someone to role block.
My goal was to survive the game.

That didn't work out too well..

pevergreen

07-21-2009, 10:47

Normal roman with a one time 100% investigation but it still only gave me which faction.

Ignoramus

07-21-2009, 11:15

Really sorry about this guys. I saw TC's Rubicon and thought, "Great, that would be some much fun to run!" However, I soon realised that the workload was tremendous. To be honest, I really wasn't enjoying running the game, and so it was hard to be motivated to send out results etc.

I apologise for unbalanced roles. Concerning the Getafix/Sinusitus detective roles, I misread TinCow's application of the investigative role for them, and so they managed to expose the Roman mafia with one hit.

I have many regrets about the game, but it has taught me not to bite off more than I can chew.

If I host another game it will be much simpler.

Thanks, and hope you enjoyed the half of the game, and I apologise that it didn't run to the end.

Death is yonder

07-21-2009, 11:20

“We must take the offensive!”
- Preposterus

Preposterus (Preposterus)
Delegate
(Roman Citizen)

A Roman economist, you have new ideas about how to divide and conquer the Gauls.

Victory Conditions:
(1) Survive and eliminate all Gallic Villagers, including Gallic Leaders.
(Note: This is no mistake, you can’t work for a town victory)
Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Delegate, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Delegates, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Delegates, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Economist - Reporting directly yo Brutus himself, you are able to communicate with Brutus. You may send an anonymous message to General Brutus twice during the game. To do this, send a PM to Ignoramus. The message will be forwarded to Brutus exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. If Brutus wishes to respond, he can do so with a single message in the exact same fashion.

Needless to say that I was rather annoyed when Taka pulled the roman mafia's names out of the bag the very day phase after we had just confirmed each others identity in the night :shame:

I was practically doomed that day onwards.

The game was fun while it lasted, my only complain was that the Getafix role had a 6/30+ chance in totally ruining it for one mafia family, which is WAYY too high.

:bow:

pevergreen

07-21-2009, 13:12

seireikhaan

07-21-2009, 13:50

I was Obelix. I'm sure I've got the role PM around somewhere, but I'll dig it up later. Basically I was gaulic mafia along with white_eyes and khazaar. Also, I could kill/protect by myself.

atheotes

07-21-2009, 14:36

here is my role PM... i was Cacofonix and i could protect by myself

“But I wasn’t even singing!."”
- Cacofonix

Cacofonix (Cacofonix)
Delegate
(Gallic Villagers)

As the village bard, you would expect to command great respect and influence on your fellow villagers. Sadly, this isn’t the case. However, your singing may come in useful...

Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Roman Leaders and Gallic Leaders. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Roman Citizens, including Roman Leaders.

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Cacophony - Your appalling voice turns even the hardest hearts to water. Few can stand it. You can protect one other delegate by singing near him. Alternatively, you can protect yourself by singing by yourself. A double attack, however, will overcome your noisy defence.

Thanks Igno, it was fun while it lasted. :2thumbsup:

A Very Super Market

07-21-2009, 17:52

Well, you all have my role. :P

Thanks Ignoramus, for doing your best in hosting a big game like this.

Caius

07-21-2009, 18:53

I was a such long name, a corsican Hero(?)
I needed to survive the whole game.
If investigated, I could come as Homeopatix, a character that didn't exist.
I could, like Cato in Rubicon, change someone vote at the end.

Greyblades

07-21-2009, 19:47

Bonywasawarriorwayayix?
I was the african pirate, me with phog of war and marshal murat were a pirate sub faction that only had to survive till the end to win and didnt count against the mafia's victory conditions.

White_eyes:D

07-21-2009, 19:58

:laugh4: I kept messing up the Vig groups by blaming the Protect groups....:bounce:
I was the Gaulish Mafia Leader.....both me and Khaan didn't even realize that Khaazered was Lynched, until the day after..:juggle2: (Me and Khaan are just good SK's...:shame:)

Beskar

07-22-2009, 00:20

“Don’t you know what’s what, what?."”

Anticlimax (Anticlimax)
Delegate
(Gallic Villagers)

Jolly good show eh what? You are Asterix’s first cousin once removed from Britain. You are well regarded by your cousin, although your peculiar British habits are a souce of amusement.
Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Roman Leaders and Gallic Leaders. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.

OR

(2) Survive and eliminate all Roman Citizens, including Roman Leaders.
Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Senator, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Senators, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Senators, you can attempt to kill one player per night.

Special Ability:
(1) Blood Relations - Being Asterix’s first cousin once removed, you are able to communicate with Vitalstatistix. You may send an anonymous message to Chief Vitalstatistix twice during the game. To do this, send a PM to Ignoramus. The message will be forwarded to Vitalstatistix exactly as you have written it, but with your identity removed from the QUOTE section. If Vitalstatistix wishes to respond, he can do so with a single message in the exact same fashion.

Splitpersonality

07-22-2009, 00:50

Everyone saw MY role but anyway.

This is munity! You can’t force your leader to lead the way!”
- Governor Perfidius

Governor Perfidius (Perfidius)
Roman Governor
(Roman Leadership)

As Governor of Corisca, your lot has been a hard one. The locals have not exactly been friendly. Not to mention the bunch of nitwit legionaries who are posted to garrison the province.

What is worse, an important prisoner has been rescued by a band of Gauls. It is time to teach those upstarts a lesson.

Victory Conditions:
Eliminate all Gallic Leaders and Gallic Villager Delegates. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this condition is met while any other Roma Leader is still alive.

Your allies are:
General Brutus (Brutus) - Roman General - A Very Super Market
Governor Encyclopaedicus Britannicus (Britannicus) - Roman Governor - Iskander 3.1

Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) Murder - You can attempt to kill one player per night. If you attempt to kill alone and the target is protected, you will fail. If two Roman Leaders attempt to kill the same target, you will succeed even if the target is protected.
(2) Guard - You can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.

Participation in Delegate Groups:
(1) You count towards the success of Delegate murder, guarding, and spying groups. This means that, operating together, two Governors can conduct a basic Delegate investigation. Note that since you can murder or guard alone, Delegate murder and guarding groups that you take part in will succeed (unless otherwise prevented in some manner) even if all of the players do not submit proper orders. If you join a group, you will not be able to use a night action.

Special Ability:
(1) Promotion – If at any point the Roman General dies, your role will permanently change to that of Roman General. If multiple Roman Governors are alive when this happens, the promotion will be determined randomly.

El Diablo

07-22-2009, 01:56

I was some minor gallic villager with the ability to investigate one player but only gather what faction they were from.

Chin in Ignoramus.. it was fun whilst it lasted and I am sure no one will begrudge you biting off more than you could chew.

I would still sign up for any other game you host in the future - well done for the attempt. :2thumbsup:

taka

07-22-2009, 19:40

gah! when it was my first time as detective too! good game even til the last moment! don't give up, we know its hard!

White_eyes:D

07-22-2009, 21:32

Yeah....Khaan was going to get you:laugh4:(He toke out Beefy:clown:)
One major problem that Khaan and I were exploiting, was that you needed a Vig/Protect group....but since we could Kill and recruit in the same night...(back-up plan for me if Khaan died or the other way around for him)..we didn't worry too much if we were caught...:yes: we even messed up a few night actions, just for laughs:laugh4: