View Full Version : Asterix and the Gauls [Concluded]
Ignoramus
06-16-2009, 12:29
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The year is 50 B.C.. Julius Caesar has organised a Peace Conference in the Gaulish village to discuss the future of Gaul. Many delegates from across the empire as well as Romans are present at the conference. However, suspicion and intrigue is in the air, and the past few days have been too quiet...
(I did do a proper story for the introduction, but my browser quit just before I could save it. So I'm too disheartened to attempt another).
Ignoramus
06-16-2009, 12:29
The basic format for the general Game Rules is taken from the TinCow's Rubicon. Thanks very much to TinCow for permission to use them!
Game Summary:
Asterix and the Gauls basically involves two factions (Gauls and Romans). However, this is not a simple mafia vs. town game. The town itself is divided into two main Factions, the Gallic Villagers and the Roman Citizens. The game takes place in 50 BC, and is loosely based on the start of Asterix in Corsica. However, characters and other elements have been drawn from most of the books. The peace conference here never occured in Asterix, and is simply a means of enabling the Gauls and Romans to vote together in a somewhat plausible way.
In this game, like Rubicon, upon which I have taken a lot of my inspiration from, the Gallic Villagers and Roman Citizens are able to combine together to achieve a town victory. However, with more players, many more special roles, and more than a few variations, I hope to create a very different game feel.
Every player will be playing an actual Asterix character, with all names coming from the English(British) translations.
At its basic level, the game involves two mafia families (Gallic Leaders and Roman Leaders) and the town (Peace Conference). However, this is not a simple mafia vs. town game. The town itself is divided into two Factions, the Gallic Villagers and the Roman Citizens. The game takes place in 50 BC, and is loosely based on the start of Asterix in Corsica. However, characters and other elements have been drawn from most of the books. The peace conference here never occured in Asterix, and is simply a means of enabling the Gauls and Romans to vote together in a somewhat plausible way. However, in the game world, both Vitalstatistix and Brutus don’t want to compromise, and so want to collapse the Peace Conference and rule all of Gaul in their own right. The Status Quo looks very unlikely to be maintained
In this game, almost all of the Delegates can choose a third option that was little more than a pipe-dream in Asterix’s Gaul 50 BC, partly because it never happened: they can put aside their national differences and individual ambitions and attempt to salvage peace by eliminating both the Gallic Leaders and the Roman Leaders. There are some Gallic Villagers and some Roman Citizens who will not be able to pursue this victory condition, due to having too much to lose if they take this road. They will lose the game if the other Delegates achieve this victory. This is the usual form of a town vs. mafia game, with the added complication that the mafia families are also dueling. Survival until the end of the game is not necessary for this victory. If you are a Delegate (townie) and you die, you can still win if both mafia families are eliminated before either is victorious. Achieving peace is a noble cause, and you will be remembered for all time as a virtuous defender of liberty.
However, the Delegates can also follow in the footsteps of their historical counterparts and take sides in the Civil War. All Delegates have a SECOND, optional(and more plausible), victory condition. This victory condition is to eliminate all players from the opposing faction and survive. Survival is necessary if you go this route, as you are choosing to turn Gaul over to an absolute ruler. If that occurs, his name will go down in history and yours will be forgotten. So, in order to gain anything, you need to be alive to reap the material rewards of backing the winning horse.
You may be wondering why any Delegate would choose to try and help one of the mafia families, when death is a serious possibility. There are multiple reasons. First, dying while trying to eliminate the other faction does not mean you have lost the game. It only means you can no longer win by eliminating the other faction. If both mafia families are eliminated after you have been killed, you will still be victorious, even if you were happily killing the other faction while you were alive. Second, the mafia might very well win. If you think this is likely to happen, you may be able to win with them by joining in their efforts to eliminate the other half of the Senate. Third, for all you know, the other half of the Senate have all chosen to destroy you anyway. Just as with a straight mafia victory, if they get the upper hand and eliminate your faction, you're doomed, even if you're dead! A pre-emptive attack might be a good idea to ensure that this never happens. Finally, playing with the mafia is fun!
So, where do the two mafia families fit into all of this? Simple, both families want to eliminate each other AND all of their opposing family’s supporters (Gallic Villagers or Roman Citizens). They don't need to eliminate their own supporters in the Peace Conference to win. After all, if all armed opposition has been crushed, the faction that leans their way will quickly be groveling at their feet or otherwise enjoying the fruits of backing the victor, no matter how much they may have secretly wished to preserve Gaul.
For the Delegates, the choice of what to do will be difficult. No one will know which faction the other players belong to at the start. If you want to save Gaul from destruciton, how can you trust the other Delegates when some of them may be out to kill you? If you want to aid the Leaders, how do you contact them without giving yourself away to the enemy?
For the Gallic Leaders and Roman Leaders, the choice of strategy will be equally difficult. Unlike the Senate, you will have a few allies whom you can trust completely. However, you will have to fight your counterparts who are just as strong as you, as well as half the town. You can greatly increase your power by convincing your faction of the Senate to turn against their opponents. Make those expendable Delegates do your dirty work, while you sit safely on the sidelines! But, how do you do this without giving yourself away? Can you even trust your own supporters, when they always have the option of winning by eliminating both the Gallic Leaders and the Roman Leaders? How do you know you aren't being infiltrated by any Senator you choose to trust?
How to Win:
Every role PM will have a specific list of victory conditions. The game will end immediately after any player meets their victory conditions. Unlike in most mafia games, depending on what happens it may be possible for some mafioso AND some townies to share in the victory.
Game Phases and Basic Gameplay:
At the outset of the game you will be randomly assigned a role, the role PM explaining the particulars will be sent to you, and shortly thereafter, play will commence.
The usual sequence of 24-hour days and 24-hour nights will be followed. Day and Night phases may be extended where necessary to account for outside events/unusual situations. In no instance will the time period be decreased below 24 hours. The first phase of the game will be a Night phase.
Day Phase: Each day the Peace Conference (town) will vote to lynch one living player. Each Delegate can cast one vote (see below for procedure). Ignoramus will write up the results of these votes and post them for general consumption, along with any juicy particulars about the Executions. The game then proceeds to the next night phase.
Night Phase: Every role has something to do at night – even if your choice is to do nothing. Since every role can be active in some manner, all players should PM Ignoramus during each night phase to indicate their actions. I will respond as quickly as possible, and will write up results that take effect immediately prior to the next day phase.
Actions: All roles will have actions or abilities that can be used at certain times during the game. These will be listed in your role PM. No player may use more than one night action in any single Night Phase, even if more than one kind of night action is listed in the role PM. You must pick which kind of night action you want to use each night from those available to you. If you are submitting an order to kill or protect someone, feel free to provide whatever level of detail you wish. Within the constraints of playability I will endeavor to create write-ups that conform to your requests, but reserve the right to edit them if necessary for game play purposes.
PM Example:
Night 4: Working with Sasaki Kojiro and Andres, I will kill Ignoramus.
If your night action requires multiple people and one of the partners in your group fails to PM me, or should they PM me with different instructions (accidentally or on purpose), you group may not have the requisite numbers to perform a given night action successfully. The write up will indicate that failure, but will not reveal who was to blame for the failure.
PM's and PM-ing:
As you have probably already noted, significant parts of the game-play involves PMs sent back and forth between the Host and the players.
PMs are expected each night from all players who wish to be active so that I can write-up the actions for a given night and provide you with the results. Every person who submits a night action PM will be sent a response indicating what occurred after the deadline has expired. Please be patient while waiting for your response PM, as it may take a while to write them depending on how many are submitted.
PLEASE get your PM to me by the deadlines posted in the thread. PMs submitted after the corresponding deadline has expired will not be counted.
Voting:
Every living player may vote to Proscript (lynch) one player per day. You may vote or not vote at your choice. Please be aware however, that persistently avoiding the voting process will result in your removal from play. While the game-master reserves the right to remove someone from play when/if needed at their discretion, as a “rule-of-thumb” missing 3 votes in a row is likely to result in your removal if you were also not participating in the discussion during that time.
To Proscript (lynch) a player, the proper procedure is:
Vote: INSERT NAME HERE - To vote for the death of a living player
Vote: Abstain - To indicate you do not want to vote for anyone some reason.
To be counted, a vote MUST be posted in bold typeface using the following format:
Vote: TinCow
To change a vote, you must first unvote in the following manner:
Unvote: TinCow
Vote: TosaInu
If you do not wish to vote for anyone, but still want to register as active, you may abstain in the following manner:
Vote: Abstain
Alternatively, you can choose to vote for no proscription of any player during that round in the following manner:
Vote: No Lynch or Vote: No Proscription
If the No Lynch/Proscription option leads in votes when the time limit expires, no one will be proscripted during that day phase.
YOU MAY NOT EDIT A VOTE. You are free to edit the rest of the post but in order to alter your vote you MUST enter the change in a new post so that it is easy to keep track of.
Rules pertaining to gameplay by dead players, screenshots, etc.:
The dead may post in the public thread, but cannot vote or carry out any actions. Dead players may not reveal their roles publicly or privately. Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player. Dead players may not reveal, recount or allude to their previous night or day actions (or results thereof in the case of investigations) publicly or privately – even to confirm a previously made public or private reveal. Dead players may not communicate about the game in any manner outside of the game thread.
No screenshots may be used, from or to anyone, for ANY purpose – this includes during PMs. You may, however, quote ANY PART of ANY PM that I send you, including role PMs and action result PMs. You may also fabricate role PMs and action result PMs as you see fit.
Chatlog conversations may be referenced/quoted, but may not be copied via screenshot. Note: it can be difficult to maintain role secrecy during chat conversations.
"Suicide" will only be allowed for players who are unable to continue playing for real life reasons. If you need to remove yourself from the game, please send me a PM and I will write you out of play in a suitably amusing and/or embarassing manner.
It is VERY STRONGLY suggested that all players enable “invisible” mode so that technology is not used to trap you. If you remain visible while on the Org boards, your activity can be logged and compared against a normal profile providing clues as to your role, working partners, etc.
Game Roles:
(Note: Any excerpts from role PMs listed below are for sample purposes only. The final format is subject to change before the game begins.)
Gallic Leadership (4 Players):
Village Chief: Vitalstatistix (Vitalstatistix) - Abilites Secret
Village Councillor: Asterix (Asterix) - Abilites Secret
Village Councillor: Obelix (Asterix) - Abilites Secret
Roman Leadership (4 Players):
Roman General: Brutus(Brutus) - Abilites Secret
Roman Governor: Encycolpedicus Brittanicus(Brittanicus) - Abilites Secret
Roman Governor: Perfidius(Perfidius) - Abilites Secret
Gallic Villagers (Half the delegates): All have unique names and at least one special ability:
GALLIC VILLAGER FULL NAME (NICKNAME)
Delegate
(Gallic Faction)
Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Roman Leaders, Gallic Leaders, and Enemy Leaders. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.
OR
(2) Survive and eliminate all Roman Soldiers, including Roman Leaders.
Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Delegate, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Delegate, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Delegates, you can attempt to kill one player per night.
Special Ability:
Secret
Roman Citizens (Half the delegates): All have unique names and at least one special ability:
ROMAN CITIZEN FULL NAME (NICKNAME)
Delegate
(Roman Faction)
Victory Conditions:
(1) Eliminate all Roman Leaders, Gallic Leaders and Enemy Leaders. You will be victorious even if you are dead if this goal is met.
OR
(2) Survive and eliminate all Gallic Villagers, including Gallic Leaders.
Role Description:
Night Actions:
(1) With 1 other Delegate, you can investigate one player per night. Successful investigations will show the target's faction.
(2) With 2 other Delegate, you can attempt to protect one player per night. Any player you protect will be very difficult to kill that night.
(3) With 3 other Delegate, you can attempt to kill one player per night.
Special Ability:
Secret
Special Roles (Number Secret): Names Secret - Abilities Secret - Victory Conditions Secret
Signed up (34/34):
Captain Blackadder
Greyblades
Askthepiazzaguy
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Jolt
Sasaki Kojiro
Khazar
Iskander 3.1
A Very Super Market
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
Yaropolk
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
Tratorix
LittleGrizzly
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera
pevergreen
CountArach
Phog of War
Beefy187
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
Beaver
El Diablo
King Jan III Sobieski
navarro951
Replacements:
TinCow
Captain Blackadder
06-16-2009, 12:31
Sign me up I love Asterix
Greyblades
06-16-2009, 12:34
I was scarred for life last time I read an asterix mafia.
Allright I'm in.
Askthepizzaguy
06-16-2009, 12:37
Inz0r
johnhughthom
06-16-2009, 12:59
Sign me up my good man.
Death is yonder
06-16-2009, 13:00
Inz!
I want magic potion :smash:
I note that Ignoramus is looking for 76 people to sign up. :bow:
Time to go advertising eh? :clown:
atheotes
06-16-2009, 13:07
atheotorix is in :smash:
Shaka_Khan
06-16-2009, 13:14
Could you give us the brief rules?
I'll read the entire rules when I have time.
Askthepizzaguy
06-16-2009, 13:35
Ignoramus-
I've requested permission to post advertisements in the Parliament, Citadel, Colosseum, Main hall, Sword Dojo, Throneroom, Arena, Frontroom, and Backroom. I've already gotten permission to do some of the ads. I can check my friends list to see who is new and might be interested. Please be sure not to spam anyone on the do not spam list I sent ya.
I would like you to write a very brief summary of the game that I can post along with the ad. Would you be willing to do so?
Due to RL work, I have no time to play for the next two weeks, possibly longer. However, you can mark me down as a replacement and I'll let you know if I have time to fill in when/if a replacement is needed.
ZOMG I WANTZ B Cicero! In.
Sasaki Kojiro
06-16-2009, 15:07
In.
Iskander 3.1
06-16-2009, 15:55
In...wow 76 people...
A Very Super Market
06-16-2009, 16:13
76? I don't usually fare well in these huge games, but.........
In.
Marshal Murat
06-16-2009, 16:38
Signed up!
atheotes
06-16-2009, 16:45
76 is a HUGE number considering the amount of activity here in the gameroom...
Ignoramus, is it a requirement or will you be starting the game even with fewer numbers?
White_eyes:D
06-16-2009, 17:16
In....76.....more then even Rubicon...:sweatdrop:
Well, Rubicon wasn't huge as far as mafia games go, but this will be a very big game if we get all the sign-ups. Managing 40 roles was a nightmare for me, I can't imagine more than 70!
:idea2:
Oh, and in.
seireikhaan
06-16-2009, 17:50
:charge:
Yaropolk
06-16-2009, 18:51
I'm in
Quintus.JC
06-16-2009, 19:13
In :thumbsup:
76 here we come
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-16-2009, 19:53
I definitely want in!
I loved Rubicon and I am sure this will be just as great!
Tratorix
06-16-2009, 21:18
In! I'm not sure if you'll get your 76 players Ignoramus, but here's hoping! :thumbsup:
First one to try Sasaki's trapping people in townie groups strategy is gonna get it. :smash:
hm... i wanted to join another mafia since ive been missing out for a while now, but this is too big a game for me :(
If at the very end you still need players, you can send me a pm and i'll see what i'm doing around that time :)
Iskander 3.1
06-16-2009, 22:29
I'll take on two roles if you need me to. I've always wanted to lynch myself.:clown:
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-16-2009, 23:44
FOS: Iskander only the mafia would try and lynch himself before he even got his role......
wait a second what?
FOS: CDF, only the mafia would try and FOS someone before they even knew their role.....
edit: you know what I just thought, how hilarious it would be for you to be playing two roles and have them both be the masons!
LittleGrizzly
06-17-2009, 00:09
In!
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 00:55
FOS: Iskander only the mafia would try and lynch himself before he even got his role......
wait a second what?
FOS: CDF, only the mafia would try and FOS someone before they even knew their role.....
edit: you know what I just thought, how hilarious it would be for you to be playing two roles and have them both be the masons!
I had a mason-ish role in Rubicon, but nobody believed me.
FOD: CDF Your WIFOM isn't gonna work with me!
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-17-2009, 00:57
well considering you ended up being a mafia, I can tell why they might not believe you.
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 01:05
True, but the really funny thing is that they were suspicious before I became mafia, and after I did they ignored me for awhile.
Ignoramus
06-17-2009, 03:19
Ignoramus-
I've requested permission to post advertisements in the Parliament, Citadel, Colosseum, Main hall, Sword Dojo, Throneroom, Arena, Frontroom, and Backroom. I've already gotten permission to do some of the ads. I can check my friends list to see who is new and might be interested. Please be sure not to spam anyone on the do not spam list I sent ya.
I would like you to write a very brief summary of the game that I can post along with the ad. Would you be willing to do so?
Thanks very much. I'll write-up a quick summary now.
Sasaki is always guility.
White_eyes:D
06-17-2009, 03:33
Beskar is always suspicious....:bounce:
Ignoramus
06-17-2009, 03:34
76 is a HUGE number considering the amount of activity here in the gameroom...
Ignoramus, is it a requirement or will you be starting the game even with fewer numbers?
I'm hoping for 76. I could possibly cut the numbers slightly, but I'll only do that if it's really necessary.
Splitpersonality
06-17-2009, 05:09
I am so in.
Cronos Impera
06-17-2009, 06:43
In.
Let mead flow.
Ignoramus
06-17-2009, 08:42
We're still not even a third full, so spread the word guys!
pevergreen
06-17-2009, 08:50
In-la.
CountArach
06-17-2009, 08:58
I'm in, but I will say now that this coming Saturday-Monday are really, really hectic for me (Work and final exams) so I probably won't be able to do too much posting-wise then. Other than that, sounds good!
Phog_of_War
06-17-2009, 10:09
Sign me up please.
Fair warning tho, 1st time Mafia player, but a long time Mafia game lurker. I have read thru 3 or 4 old Mafia games on the Org.
CountArach
06-17-2009, 11:43
Sign me up please.
Fair warning tho, 1st time Mafia player, but a long time Mafia game lurker. I have read thru 3 or 4 old Mafia games on the Org.
Welcome to the game ~:wave:
Ignoramus
06-17-2009, 11:49
It's always good to see new people joining in. Great to have you on board!
Beefy187
06-17-2009, 12:26
I'm hoping for 76. I could possibly cut the numbers slightly, but I'll only do that if it's really necessary.
In that case, I'm in.:2thumbsup:
Askthepizzaguy
06-17-2009, 12:33
Ignoramus-
I had a thought. Check the signup list for all the large mafia games that have been played recently, and be sure you've already asked everyone on those lists.
The Treehouse of Horror
The Fillet Royale II
The Council of Villains
Rubicon
The Settlement
And Don't Forget Swords in the Moon! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=115744) Huge game.
Ignoramus
06-17-2009, 12:34
ANNOUNCEMENT:
Due to the difficult in getting players, I am reducing the number of players to 52.
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 17:25
I think Phog of War is just one of the mods using an alt account. Probably Sasaki. Or maybe Andres.
atheotes
06-17-2009, 18:09
I think Phog of War is just one of the mods using an alt account. Probably Sasaki. Or maybe Andres.
what makes you think that?
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 18:17
My sense of humor tells me, sorry for not inserting any smilies :laugh4:
atheotes
06-17-2009, 18:34
oh...ok. i thought you were serious... :yes:
Holidays = Free Time = In. :2thumbsup:
I think Phog of War is just one of the mods using an alt account. Probably Sasaki. Or maybe Andres.
Rule no. 19375077202737551810 "Phog of war is always guilty"
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 19:45
Right. Need to remember Rule no. 19375077202737551810
By the way (way off topic) is anyone able to change their user name? I haven't been able to since The Glitch happened 2 weeks ago. Or maybe I'm just dumb. Iskander requires another upgrade.
A Very Super Market
06-17-2009, 20:34
After the pevercolours, I think Tosa took away the name-changing. Say, whatever happened to peverblue? Also known as Vuk.
Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 20:47
Grrr, bad apples spoil the bunch.
So... I am in, or they told me those threacherous gauls to me.
sure thing, IN now that the numbers are smaller
sure thing, IN now that the numbers are smaller
Quick, raise it to 76 again! Now's your chance, we've caught him! :laugh4:
Ignoramus
06-18-2009, 08:58
I am worried though. 2 days of signups and still only 29 people. I can't really trim the game much further without dramatically altering the game.
I am worried though. 2 days of signups and still only 29 people. I can't really trim the game much further without dramatically altering the game.
That's why I scaled back my plans for my game. The original concept required 50-60 players, but it's very difficult to get that many for a mafia game, so I scaled back to about 30. AFAIK, only Capo, Capo II, and Swords in the Moon have achieved 50+.
Askthepizzaguy
06-18-2009, 17:15
Not doing badly so far. I'm going to update my ads with the new list of people.
I think people are more likely to join in a game with someone they recognize.
El Diablo
06-19-2009, 01:17
In - although I will be inactive through weekends.
If this is an issue then please remove my name.
ED
Ignoramus
06-19-2009, 04:05
In - although I will be inactive through weekends.
If this is an issue then please remove my name.
ED
No that should be fine.
King Jan III Sobieski
06-20-2009, 03:03
:inquisitive: Can I sign up? :inquisitive:
atheotes
06-20-2009, 03:07
:inquisitive: Can I sign up? :inquisitive:
yes you can...:smash:
navarro951
06-20-2009, 05:02
In..
Ignoramus
06-20-2009, 07:27
Sign ups are now closed. The following changes to the rules for the 34-player version are below.
Gallic Leadership: (3)
Village Chief: Vitalstatistix (Vitalstatistix) - Abilites Secret
Village Councillor: Asterix (Asterix) - Abilites Secret
Village Councillor: Obelix (Asterix) - Abilites Secret
Roman Leadership: (3)
Roman General: Brutus(Brutus) - Abilites Secret
Roman Governor: Encycolpedicus Brittanicus(Brittanicus) - Abilities Secret
Roman Governor: Perfidius(Perfidius) - Abilities Secret
GeneralHankerchief
06-20-2009, 08:28
Got your PM. Still need somebody?
If not, put me down as a replacement. :yes:
Ignoramus
06-20-2009, 09:00
I can squeeze you in. Haven't done the allocations yet.
Askthepizzaguy
06-20-2009, 12:48
I'll ask to remove all Asterix ads now.
Ignoramus
06-20-2009, 13:02
Thanks, ATPG. Thanks also very much for your help in advertising. PM's are being sent out as I speak.
Ignoramus
06-20-2009, 14:27
The first few days of the Conference had been relatively uneventful. Not much was discussed as the agenda for the discussions was being prepared. The main business would begin tomorrow. Everyone went off to bed to prepare themselves for a demanding day tomorrow. Suspicion still filled the air, but the calm of the first few days had done something to eases the tensions between the parties.
It is now Night 1.
The deadline for Night 1 orders is Monday, June 18th at 2:00am GMT.
Askthepizzaguy
06-20-2009, 18:08
Gosh, I am just so worn out from plotting the destruction of the Romans.
*yawn* I'd better take a nap now.
A Very Super Market
06-20-2009, 18:10
Obelix? Hm..... he doesn't plot destruction....
Aww...I'm not Cicero... *sobs*
Aww...I'm not Cicero... *sobs*
Neither Im Cato.
Neither Im Cato.
Now we need to be on the look out to see who speaks Latin. :D
pevergreen
06-20-2009, 23:50
CountArach studies latin :yes:
Captain Blackadder
06-21-2009, 00:34
We also need to be on the lookout for anyone speaking gaulish?
I recommend that we do what saskai did in rubicon and tie up the mafia in townie actions. How about we do it in order of signup the first 3 protect the forth the 4,5,6 protect 7 and so on so forth. Anyone who refuses is scummy. The mafia did say that it worked in rubicon and if we do it here then the town has a very good chance of winning.
The only other thing I can say to my fellow townies is that don't go for a mafia victory
A Very Super Market
06-21-2009, 01:02
Where's Abokasee when you need him?
atheotes
06-21-2009, 01:16
We also need to be on the lookout for anyone speaking gaulish?
I recommend that we do what saskai did in rubicon and tie up the mafia in townie actions. How about we do it in order of signup the first 3 protect the forth the 4,5,6 protect 7 and so on so forth. Anyone who refuses is scummy. The mafia did say that it worked in rubicon and if we do it here then the town has a very good chance of winning.
The only other thing I can say to my fellow townies is that don't go for a mafia victory
hmm... i think we need to have 4 people trying to kill the person the three are protecting... we just need to figure out a way to organize it. i was one of the mafia in rubicon it really was a hinderance.
LittleGrizzly
06-21-2009, 03:37
The rubicon strategy is definitely a winning one im just not sure how we work it without a leader like sasaki did in rubicon.
I have been contacted by someone to do investigations, these aren't really nessecary for a townie win, but i figure it better to keep myself and my contact busy, ideally a 3rd person intrested in keeping busy can pm me and we can organise protection on a target...
Although if its going to be workable im willing to try it...
That would leave me working with splitpersonality and lord winter, we have no name after us to protect but i figure the best thing would be for us to not reveal our protection target... (so the mafia don't know) as it is under the blackadder system mafia know who's protected...
Lord Winter and Split, any objections of us 3 protecting together ?
If this isn't going to work need to now asap so i can try and setup protection with others.. (ohh and split no forgetting orders and making the rest of us look scummy...)
Edit:
How stupid would it be if i worked out who my partners should be using a completely different game.... very
so umm let me see...
CDF and tratorix... you willing to protect with me ?
Askthepizzaguy
06-21-2009, 03:39
I think you just volunteered to be the leader of your people, LittleGrizzly.
You didn't ask for the position, and that tends to make you the ideal candidate in my eyes.
LittleGrizzly
06-21-2009, 03:49
Not that I object to it being me... as i can trust me... im just not sure if someone should be given such power because they make the right noises...
I would be willing to do the job for a few rounds if people really think its a good idea.... but i would really prefer some proven innocent to do the job.... even if its only because it gives the mafia less excuse to disobey my orders.... (along with ordaniry townies who disobey orders to make life complicated)
A Very Super Market
06-21-2009, 04:00
I refuse to refuse your orders! Hail to the Great Bear of Miniscule Proportions!
Askthepizzaguy
06-21-2009, 04:08
He's the Messiah!
I should know, I've followed a few.
johnhughthom
06-21-2009, 04:14
He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
Tratorix
06-21-2009, 04:39
CDF and tratorix... you willing to protect with me ?
I already sent in investigation orders with Yaropolk. I don't really want to back out now, but next round I will be willing to. I've seen the Rubicon strategies effectiveness first hand and we should definitely try to implement it.
CountArach
06-21-2009, 08:26
CountArach studies latin :yes:
Given that I'm going to probably fail my latin uni exam tomorrow I don't claim to be good at it :tongue:
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-21-2009, 13:02
I have the same problem as Tratorix, I will be able to join in tomorrow night and after however.
I hereby declare that I am the Roman Mafia leader, therefore I respectfully decline your invitation to stay talking pleasently with hairy brutes at night when I could be inserting gladii in their flesh.
LittleGrizzly
06-21-2009, 17:13
If anyone isn't doing anything at the moment send of an investigation night action and include me in it, pm me the target of our investigation and hopefully i may get on in time to send a night order... im thinking i may not be on in time though so if you already have some action planned don't mess with it to try and fit me in...
Askthepizzaguy
06-21-2009, 18:55
Someone please join Tratorix' Futurama-themed mafia game (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=118486) so we can have a full complement of players.
Sorry for the solicitation. Back to the game!
Thank you, Chaotix.
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 01:24
I hereby declare that I am the Roman Mafia leader, therefore I respectfully decline your invitation to stay talking pleasently with hairy brutes at night when I could be inserting gladii in their flesh.
Smacks jolt with a big stinky fish
A Very Super Market
06-22-2009, 01:57
Where did you get that fish? Hmm?
Ignoramus
06-22-2009, 03:47
The deadline for orders is almost here - send those Pm's in!
Ignoramus
06-22-2009, 04:42
Stand by for write-ups!
Splitpersonality
06-22-2009, 04:50
Huzzah!
Where did you get that fish? Hmm?
It means he's gaulish, since only Gaulish people stink!
Beefy187
06-22-2009, 06:07
It means he's gaulish, since only Gaulish people stink!
I don't
I smell nice
Ignoramus
06-22-2009, 08:01
Sasaki Kojiro was returning to his lodgings after a hard day’s debate. So far, the only squabbling had been over what to eat the next day.
As he laid down to go to sleep, he didn’t hear the soft footsteps entering the hut. The next moment a sword was plunged deep into his heart before he even had a chance to cry out. Several swords followed before the assailants fled into the night.
...
Captain Blackadder was very satisfied with the day’s proceedings. The food was good, the company lively, and no one had noticed that he hadn’t paid for supper.
Whistling to himself as he walked, he started to walk back to his lodgings. As he paused to unlock the door, he heard hurried footsteps behind him. He whirled around, but the next thing he heard was the sound of swords piercing his flesh. Sinking to the ground he soon breathed his last.
...
Jolt was sitting down to a private supper. The day had progressed well, apart from angry interjections from hardliners. But all in all, it looked promising that an agreement could be reached.
Just as he was finishing his meal, two guards approached him. “Sir, there’s some men outside who wish to speak to you.”
Jolt sighed as he told them to tell the men to come back to him in the morning. He was tired, and the last thing he wanted to do was entertain visitors.
A few minutes later, a large disturbance was heard coming from outside. Rushing to his feet, Jolt saw his two guards fighting furiously against a couple of men, armed with clubs. Drawing his weapon, he quickly went to their aid and the assailants were driven off.
...
As dawn slowly came over the village, there were many anxious discussion going on between the delegates, all of them had quickly rushed to the village centre as soon as they had heard the news of the deaths. Two bodies, one Gaulish and one Roman had been found.
Alive: (33/35)
Greyblades
Askthepiazzaguy
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Jolt
Khazar
Iskander 3.1
A Very Super Market
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
Yaropolk
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
Tratorix
LittleGrizzly
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera
pevergreen
CountArach
Phog of War
Beefy187
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
Beaver
El Diablo
King Jan III Sobieski
navarro951
Murdered: (2)
Sasaki Kojiro
Captain Blackadder
Executed: (0)
It is now Day 1. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Tuesday, June 23rd at 8:00 am GMT.
Askthepizzaguy
06-22-2009, 08:03
Hey, cool, so someone decided to block me last night and that's super awesome, but can you not do that again kthanxbai
EDIT- PS and protection would be nice now and go ahead and investigate me.
Death is yonder
06-22-2009, 08:13
Sasaki seems to be dying in a lot of games early recently... :inquisitive:
Captain Blackadder
06-22-2009, 08:54
Fiddlesticks it seems the mafia really do not want a repeat of rubicon they killed me who suggested we do it and saskai the one who organised it last time.
CountArach
06-22-2009, 13:58
Vote: taka
Any townies turn anything interesting up? I'm fairly sure there would have been quite a number of investigation groups set up.
Clubs = Townies? If so then a group of townies is extremely stupid. If its Gauls then they are being even more stupid.
Vote: Chaotix
CountArach
06-22-2009, 14:50
Clubs = Townies? If so then a group of townies is extremely stupid. If its Gauls then they are being even more stupid.
Vote: Chaotix
Yeah clubs seems more like something that groups of citizens would use as vigilante attacks. We might need some more examples for evidence of this though. I agree with you that townie vig groups are a stupid idea, especially at this point. ONly when we need to kill someone off should they be formed.
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 15:28
Jolt - do you know the source of your protection? If you do not, it's probably safe to assume its another townie group working together with vigilantes like in Rubicon. Also why the votes for Chaotix and taka?
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 15:32
Hurm, Vote:Abstain
CountArach
06-22-2009, 16:03
Hurm, Vote:Abstain
Don't abstain in the first round. The town has lynched successfully int eh first round and Abstaining only leads to a lack of conversation.
atheotes
06-22-2009, 16:12
Yeah clubs seems more like something that groups of citizens would use as vigilante attacks. We might need some more examples for evidence of this though. I agree with you that townie vig groups are a stupid idea, especially at this point. ONly when we need to kill someone off should they be formed.
well, it could be that a kill group and protection group was organized and the protection group failed :juggle2: that would mean that the guys in the protection group are under suspicion :yes:
but i agree that it might be too early to say who made the kill based on the write ups.
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 16:27
well, it could be that a kill group and protection group was organized and the protection group failed :juggle2: that would mean that the guys in the protection group are under suspicion :yes:
but i agree that it might be too early to say who made the kill based on the write ups.
Read the writeup again - the club attempt was blocked. Both sucessful kills were done with swords
well jolt didnt die, so i assume that his protection actually worked, no?
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 16:42
Don't abstain in the first round. The town has lynched successfully int eh first round and Abstaining only leads to a lack of conversation.
Just feel bad about voting randomly, besides I haven't got anything on anyone.
I'm sure one random vote at this stage would make little difference to the outcome. :shrug:
atheotes
06-22-2009, 16:43
Read the writeup again - the club attempt was blocked. Both successful kills were done with swords
oops... i wasnt paying enough attention :shame:
hmm...the writeup makes it look like jolt was protected by HIS guards and not a protection group... i could be wrong. :bow:
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 16:44
Read the writeup again - the club attempt was blocked. Both sucessful kills were done with swords
Perhaps the sword killings indicate Roman while Clubs indicates Gaul killings?
Sasaki Kojiro
06-22-2009, 16:53
Good game :bounce:
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 16:58
Jolt was sitting down to a private supper. The day had progressed well, apart from angry interjections from hardliners. But all in all, it looked promising that an agreement could be reached.
Just as he was finishing his meal, two guards approached him. “Sir, there’s some men outside who wish to speak to you.”
Jolt sighed as he told them to tell the men to come back to him in the morning. He was tired, and the last thing he wanted to do was entertain visitors.
A few minutes later, a large disturbance was heard coming from outside. Rushing to his feet, Jolt saw his two guards fighting furiously against a couple of men, armed with clubs. Drawing his weapon, he quickly went to their aid and the assailants were driven off.
The write-up appears to show Jolt as a pretty important person, however the clues are very subliminal and could easily be interpreted wrongly. Firstly he has guards, which could be his personal guards, or just the ordinary sentries that petrol the place. Also Jolt is noted to have a private meal, in contrast to Captain Blackadder who ate with 'company' and had to pay. Furthermore the guards called him 'Sir', which again can be interpreted as it shows the guards' respectful attitude towards him, but that could also be the way the guards address everyone. I don't think the clues means much though, Jolt will comment on it soon enough.
Cronos Impera
06-22-2009, 17:16
Vote: Beefy
Have a long feud with him and I think he's mafia.
Looking at the write up again, ONLY TWO guards were protecting Jolt. Jolt Obviously has an important role because he wasn't protected by a protection group - for a protection group you need a total of 3 players protecting. However, Jolt having two players protecting him means that the two are his personal guards of some sort and only an important role would have something like that.
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 17:33
Looking at the write up again, ONLY TWO guards were protecting Jolt. Jolt Obviously has an important role because he wasn't protected by a protection group - for a protection group you need a total of 3 players protecting. However, Jolt having two players protecting him means that the two are his personal guards of some sort and only an important role would have something like that.
Hurm, looking at the write-up again the two guards were guarding outside Jolt's place, stopping intruders and unwanted visitors and the lot, keeping him in safety at the same time. Interesting.
Marshal Murat
06-22-2009, 17:49
Don't abstain in the first round. The town has lynched successfully int eh first round and Abstaining only leads to a lack of conversation.
A la Rubicon, where we abstained the first round, very awkward.
I was trying to work out protection with LG, but it didn't work out because there wasn't good communication.
Vote:Beefy - I'm having beef for dinner tonight. Coincidence, I think not.
Hurm, looking at the write-up again the two guards were guarding outside Jolt's place, stopping intruders and unwanted visitors and the lot, keeping him in safety at the same time. Interesting.
I have two theories. Either there was a protection and a kill group directed at me (The guards first talk about a gruop of people who wanted to see me. I don't know whether they were the kill group or another protection group) with the purpose of tying people up. As I had already protection, the Protection group failed and only the kill group acted, and got their asses handed to them.
The second theory is that it is just a misguided townie attack on round 1 after I joked that I was the Roman Leader (Which is stupid, as everyone knows I'm really the Gaulish Leader.).
If this is the case, I would very much like for the group members to begin suspecting greatly of each other, since it is the dumbest idea ever to start killing randomly on round one, and quite probably the said group has Mafia working in it to start dispatching as many townies as possible early on. So, if you are one of the kill group members and are townie, bewary of your colleagues as quite possibly you already have one or more Mafiosi inside it. I would actually welcome that someone reveal themselves and the group, as that would give the town the names of most probable Mafia who were pushing for a kill in Night 1.
On another note, the attack against me has just proven for me that I didn't attack on Night 1, which is usually what Mafia always do.
GeneralHankerchief
06-22-2009, 17:55
On another note, the attack against me has just proven for me that I didn't attack on Night 1, which is usually what Mafia always do.
No no no no no.
Vote: Jolt
johnhughthom
06-22-2009, 17:57
Vote: Jolt
That defence was rather unconvincing to say the least.
Unvote (if i voted)
Vote: Jolt
i dont like your explanations, doesnt make much sense to me.
claiming to be innocent just because you got attacked is scummy.
AND claiming to be the leaders feels like you're telling me:
"What? I'm Freaking Obviously Mafia"
Askthepizzaguy
06-22-2009, 18:08
vote: Navarro951
I'm just really sick of hearing this guy talk so much.
Splitpersonality
06-22-2009, 18:36
Vote:Navarro951, Indeed some discussion would be lovely.
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 18:42
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Beefy
No no no no no.
Vote: Jolt
The fact that I was protecting myself doesn't reveal that I didn't kill? I'm not trying to get away with anything, I'm stating a fact. A fact that you somehow are attempting to disprove.
Vote: Jolt
That defence was rather unconvincing to say the least.
Ah, of course! Wait, I need a reason to defend myself? Did anyone accuse me of anything? Did I present any reasons? And where do my reasons seem unconvincing? Your post is very odd.
Your reasons to vote for me are EXTREMELY irrational to say the least. Also, fomenting bandwagons with reasons such as yours is extremely suspicious.
Unvote: Chaotix Vote: johnhughthom
Unvote (if i voted)
Vote: Jolt
i dont like your explanations, doesnt make much sense to me.
claiming to be innocent just because you got attacked is scummy.
AND claiming to be the leaders feels like you're telling me:
"What? I'm Freaking Obviously Mafia"
I'm honestly failing to see how they do not make sense. What doesn't make sense to you? And claiming the leaders is as WIFOM as you voting for me by saying that my explanations do not make sense.
Splitpersonality
06-22-2009, 18:53
FoS: Anyone voting against Jolt, there is no reason to jump down the throat of every man who has protection...
It was most likely a one time thing, lynching him won't help that.
White_eyes:D
06-22-2009, 18:55
vote: Navarro951
I'm just really sick of hearing this guy talk so much.
:laugh4: Yes...I am sure we are ALL sick of it by now.....speaking of which....Vote:Khaan
When your quiet....I get nervous...:inquisitive:
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 18:59
:laugh4: Yes...I am sure we are ALL sick of it by now.....speaking of which....Vote:Khaan
What did he (Navarro) do? :inquisitive:
Nothing. ATPG uses this thing called "sarcasm" sometimes.
And, you know what, I think I'm going to vote: Jolt, for the sole reason that he claimed he was the mafia leader last phase, when absolutely no attention was directed on him, and he had seemingly no reason to say it.
I hereby declare that I am the Roman Mafia leader, therefore I respectfully decline your invitation to stay talking pleasently with hairy brutes at night when I could be inserting gladii in their flesh.
I don't like it when people spit out stupid WIFOM like this. Also, I have no idea why Jolt voted for me originally.
well let's have a look at the bits im not happy with:
I have two theories. Either there was a protection and a kill group directed at me (The guards first talk about a gruop of people who wanted to see me. I don't know whether they were the kill group or another protection group) with the purpose of tying people up. As I had already protection, the Protection group failed and only the kill group acted, and got their asses handed to them.
Its obvious that there was a kill group after you, and i can't deny that you could have possibly been protected by a protection group (the people who "wanted to talk to you"). however, you said that you already had protection. that's true since you had two guards that stopped you being killed. but the thing was that there was only TWO guards that protected you. this can only mean that you have a role were two other players automatically protect you while they are alive. the two guards were not a protection group as you need 3 players to form a protection group.
The second theory is that it is just a misguided townie attack on round 1 after I joked that I was the Roman Leader (Which is stupid, as everyone knows I'm really the Gaulish Leader.).
Wifom gets you nowhere, and deserves lynching.
If this is the case, I would very much like for the group members to begin suspecting greatly of each other, since it is the dumbest idea ever to start killing randomly on round one, and quite probably the said group has Mafia working in it to start dispatching as many townies as possible early on. So, if you are one of the kill group members and are townie, bewary of your colleagues as quite possibly you already have one or more Mafiosi inside it. I would actually welcome that someone reveal themselves and the group, as that would give the town the names of most probable Mafia who were pushing for a kill in Night 1.
Although true that mafia could be working with the townies kill groups, but i dont think that they were randomly targetting you. you said that you was the roman leader, and so i would think the group that killed you was gaul aligned. your attempt to try wifom them is scummy.
On another note, the attack against me has just proven for me that I didn't attack on Night 1, which is usually what Mafia always do.
as i said before, you're not proven innocent just because you're attacked - for all we know, you could be the roman mafia leader and the two that protected you were your henchmen
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 19:24
Vote Jolt too much drama for your mama!
Tratorix
06-22-2009, 19:25
Jolt seems just a little sensitive this game doesn't he?
Vote: Jolt
Askthepizzaguy
06-22-2009, 19:44
I believe Jolt's story. I don't recommend lynching him.
On another note, the attack against me has just proven for me that I didn't attack on Night 1, which is usually what Mafia always do.
The fact that attacked in a game with two mafias, doesnt mean nothing.
A Very Super Market
06-22-2009, 20:01
Well, since the Jolt lynch seems to be locked up, let's discuss other things.
We have no idea what faction Jolt is, but we'll learn soon enough.
Sasaki lives in a hut, so I'm thinking he is a Gaul.
That leaves BA as a Roman.
Good thinking, everyone!
Iskander 3.1
06-22-2009, 20:08
Did you just pat yourself on the back?
GeneralHankerchief
06-22-2009, 20:08
Has Jolt been mafia in a game of comparable size?
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-22-2009, 20:11
we seem to be jumping on jolt pretty hard, but I am sorry I just don't see it. I hate first round lynches,
Vote: abstain
Has Jolt been mafia in a game of comparable size?
I dont think he was ever mafia. I think he started as Cicero in Rubicon.
well let's have a look at the bits im not happy with:
Its obvious that there was a kill group after you, and i can't deny that you could have possibly been protected by a protection group (the people who "wanted to talk to you"). however, you said that you already had protection. that's true since you had two guards that stopped you being killed. but the thing was that there was only TWO guards that protected you. this can only mean that you have a role were two other players automatically protect you while they are alive. the two guards were not a protection group as you need 3 players to form a protection group.
Wait. I was actually agreeing until the part where you put the "other players". Do you mean that they aren't my guards? OH! I know! Let's go look at Rubicon upon which this game is based. Every protection there which occurred by Protection Abilities, (Lictors & Stronghold Villa) doesn't the protected people have quite a few servants/guards protecting them? OH NOES! THEY MUST BE PLAYERS! The automatically protecting me while alive also seems a bit far fetched. You are clearly inclined to think that I'm Mafia rather than actually looking at what the text does say.
Wifom gets you nowhere, and deserves lynching.
Got someone to attack me. Someone in that group is Mafia. Seems pretty good for Night 1, no? Furthermore, I'm pretty sure I'm confusing both Mafia famillies as well.
You on the other hand, come with theories about players who automatically protect me while I'm alive, out of the blue (Being the magical words "TWO GUARDS"). Hm...Let's compare the usefulness.
Although true that mafia could be working with the townies kill groups, but i dont think that they were randomly targetting you. you said that you was the roman leader, and so i would think the group that killed you was gaul aligned. your attempt to try wifom them is scummy.
One thing is curious though. You accept everything I said. Yet you still vote for me. That's odd.
as i said before, you're not proven innocent just because you're attacked - for all we know, you could be the roman mafia leader and the two that protected you were your henchmen
Of course. I just won a large game by staying away from big posts and discussions. If I was indeed the Mafia leader in the exact same game, I would be stupid enough to do a WIFOM on Night 1 to attract all suspicion on me. That's brilliant reasoning.
Vote Jolt too much drama for your mama!
FOS: Yaropolk Its curious you say on Night 1 that since I was willing to help (I could have said I was already working with someone else, no?), I was trustworthy and you wouldn't vote for me and now on Day 2, you are already voting for me with a bandwagon formed, despite having clearly explained everything. Ok, that makes sense.
Jolt seems just a little sensitive this game doesn't he?
Vote: Jolt
I tend to get sensitive when I'm a townie and am about to be lynched for stupid reasons. Especially when people like you give no reasons at all.
Has Jolt been mafia in a game of comparable size?
Only been Mafia in The Settlement. I never did anything as suicidal as a WIFOM early on. If anything, my main goal was not to attract suspicions. Obviously some people seem to think that a Mafia goal is to attract suspicion, otherwise I wouldn't be as heavily voted as I am being.
EDIT: If you check that quicktopic, you should also see that Reenk says that he saw me do "some of the best mafiying he's seen". Obviously, according to Reenk, best mafiying in a game like this involves WIFOM, saying I'm the Roman leader. Quite honestly its ridiculous.
It could be that the Mafia purposely protected and tried to lynch Jolt in the same breath so during the day phase, he gets lynched instead of one of them.
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 21:21
FOS: Yaropolk Its curious you say on Night 1 that since I was willing to help (I could have said I was already working with someone else, no?), I was trustworthy and you wouldn't vote for me and now on Day 2, you are already voting for me with a bandwagon formed, despite having clearly explained everything. Ok, that makes sense.
You are absolutely right - I pmed some people on N1 to see who would be willing to investigate with me. This was done to get a response out of people to see who is not commited to some other dastardly night action. Jolt was one of the people who replied that he's willing to work with me, and I put him in my townie column. I did not check my notes before voting, I withdraw my lynch vote. I have no other suspects at this time.
unvote: Jolt
vote: abstain
edit: stupid spoil tags look just like bold, had to edit them out
It is my time to ask questions. In this Phrase
Jolt was sitting down to a private supper. The day had progressed well, apart from angry interjections from hardliners. But all in all, it looked promising that an agreement could be reached.
Just as he was finishing his meal, two guards approached him. “Sir, there’s some men outside who wish to speak to you.”
Jolt sighed as he told them to tell the men to come back to him in the morning. He was tired, and the last thing he wanted to do was entertain visitors.
A few minutes later, a large disturbance was heard coming from outside. Rushing to his feet, Jolt saw his two guards fighting furiously against a couple of men, armed with clubs. Drawing his weapon, he quickly went to their aid and the assailants were driven off.
I wonder how the voters on me can explain this:
Jolt was sitting down to a private supper. The day had progressed well, apart from angry interjections from hardliners. But all in all, it looked promising that an agreement could be reached.
And I ask especially to taka, who has been so proeminent in going from two guards into a Mafia conspiracy where I'm automatically protected.
Let me give my voters a hint: Mafia famillies don't want an agreement.
Askthepizzaguy
06-22-2009, 21:27
I would again call for people to leave Jolt alone this round. Thank you.
Good. Now the number of prospective Mafia taking advantage of the bandwagon is reduced. I'm still waiting for some answers of the people who thought it was nice to vote for me.
atheotes
06-22-2009, 21:39
well... Jolt seems to be a power role. whether mafia or pro-town we are not sure. since the game is based on rubicon and that had pro-town roles with protection abilities i am not convinced he is mafia...Not sure what he can do to get out this.
Vote: Abstain for now.
Marshal Murat
06-22-2009, 21:44
Unvote:Beefy
Vote:Abstain
I'm having chicken tonight. Meh.
What I want to know is how trustworthy Yarolpolks list is. I was honestly suspicious of any gladhanding by anyone (it's a mafia game right?). Is it a list of people who responded "yeah I'll help" and then were put into groups or just people who responded "yeah I'll help"?
Obviously, since I am quite proven to be innocent, the orators of this game can save me by Vote Switching to navarro (Who apparently hasn't made a post yet.)
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 21:51
Unvote: Beefy
Vote: Navarro
Or that. Thank you Quintus.
Unvote: johnhughthom Vote: navarro
johnhughthom
06-22-2009, 22:00
Unvote: Jolt Vote:Navarro
Read through again and it's not as clear as I had thought.
Iskander 3.1
06-22-2009, 22:20
This is giving me a headache. I don't think that Jolt's the one to blame though. What's the argument on Navarro?
A Very Super Market
06-22-2009, 22:28
He's lurking really badly. That's about it.
Yaropolk
06-22-2009, 22:28
Premeditated lurking in the 1st degree
Iskander 3.1
06-22-2009, 22:34
Ah. He did that in Rubicon and turned out to be mafia there, too.
Vote: Navarro
atheotes
06-22-2009, 22:36
he has posted elsewhere this afternoon...
unvote; Vote: Navarro
A Very Super Market
06-22-2009, 22:39
Right boys, he deserves to be insulted.
Vote: Navarro
Quintus.JC
06-22-2009, 23:01
There really isn't much of a case against Navarro, lurkers poses little problem during the early stages but could become quite problematic as the game goes on, best to elimate them early. Personally I don't think Navarro is scum, but I think Jolt deserves to live at least another round.
seireikhaan
06-22-2009, 23:13
Vote: Quintus
Very neutral statement.
Beefy187
06-23-2009, 00:51
Unvote:Beefy
Vote:Abstain
I'm having chicken tonight. Meh.
What I want to know is how trustworthy Yarolpolks list is. I was honestly suspicious of any gladhanding by anyone (it's a mafia game right?). Is it a list of people who responded "yeah I'll help" and then were put into groups or just people who responded "yeah I'll help"?
I am going to defend that chicken!
Vote: Marshal Murat
As for Cronos... Your going to have fun tonight :laugh4:
Tratorix
06-23-2009, 01:03
Unvote:Jolt He makes some good points, and some bad points, but I'll back off for now.
There really isn't much of a case against Navarro, lurkers poses little problem during the early stages but could become quite problematic as the game goes on, best to elimate them early. Personally I don't think Navarro is scum, but I think Jolt deserves to live at least another round.
See, this is my style of mafia playing! Don't let anyone knock you off that fence, JC! Can't look suspicious if you don't give an opinion.
Unvote: Jolt Vote:Navarro
Read through again and it's not as clear as I had thought.
You just made a flying leap from one bandwagon to another. I'm impressed. Vote: Johnhugthom
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-23-2009, 01:06
God people, this is really all over the place. Alright, I have finals so I really don't have time for this, suffice to say I don't believe any of the cases you guys have are even half way convincing. My vote stays.
dont take this as critical, I just really hate first round lynches.
LittleGrizzly
06-23-2009, 01:18
Errm, im voting abstain...
Edit: Vote Abstain
Don't think Jolt should be lynched...
Looking more closely at the write-up, it would seem there are some parts which would make Jolt look innocent. However, he is in no way "proved" innocent, so we shouldn't take it that way.
I still think it's particularly scummy that he first made a WIFOM claim to be mafia, and is now claiming that he is a proven innocent because of a few words in the write-up and the fact that he had guards. That said, I suppose he deserves another chance, if he'll stop acting so scummy.
Unvote: Jolt
That said, there is no case against navarro. Remember, this is still the very first voting round. Technically, he can't be lurking yet, because there hasn't been a full day for him to lurk through yet. And, if I recall correctly from the few games he's played in the past, it seems to be his general style of play anyway.
Right now, I'm going to vote: AVSM because he's being unusually useless, while trying to seem helpful.
I still think it's particularly scummy that he first made a WIFOM claim to be mafia, and is now claiming that he is a proven innocent because of a few words in the write-up and the fact that he had guards.
Yeah, I'm innocent. In fact, I'm one of the orators.:clown:
Greyblades
06-23-2009, 02:06
Ugh I never knew coming up with role PM's was so time consuming.
Vote: Abstain
Just checking in just so noone thinks I dont care about this game.
Death is yonder
06-23-2009, 02:14
Jolt's story looks like it checks out pretty well, but I'm wondering at the coincidence.
If the game is going to be quite similar to Rubicon, it would mean that the mafia can protect their "godfather" so to speak. And there are precisely 2 henchmen, maybe it just fits too nicely... :inquisitive:
Quite suspicious about Marshal Murat's and Johnhughtom's reasons for jumping on the bandwagon, multiple bandwagon's in fact.
johnhughthom
06-23-2009, 02:29
I jumped on one bandwagon actually, I read the write up, then Jolt's reply and thought he was suspicous so voted for him. Then I read Jolt's argument, reread the write up and thought I might be wrong. Then I jumped on a bandwagon.
Beefy187
06-23-2009, 02:31
Jolt's story looks like it checks out pretty well, but I'm wondering at the coincidence.
If the game is going to be quite similar to Rubicon, it would mean that the mafia can protect their "godfather" so to speak. And there are precisely 2 henchmen, maybe it just fits too nicely... :inquisitive:
Quite suspicious about Marshal Murat's and Johnhughtom's reasons for jumping on the bandwagon, multiple bandwagon's in fact.
Unvote, Vote: Death is Yonder
For making that horrible face!
You Gauls are already ugly and smelly enough.
Smile for once! It makes you so much more cheerful and beutiful :beam:
Yeah, I'm innocent. In fact, I'm one of the orators.:clown:
Prove it.
Death is yonder
06-23-2009, 02:41
Jolt was sitting down to a private supper. The day had progressed well, apart from angry interjections from hardliners. But all in all, it looked promising that an agreement could be reached.
Just as he was finishing his meal, two guards approached him. “Sir, there’s some men outside who wish to speak to you.”
Jolt sighed as he told them to tell the men to come back to him in the morning. He was tired, and the last thing he wanted to do was entertain visitors.
A few minutes later, a large disturbance was heard coming from outside. Rushing to his feet, Jolt saw his two guards fighting furiously against a couple of men, armed with clubs. Drawing his weapon, he quickly went to their aid and the assailants were driven off.
You see Chaotix, the following are evidence that Jolt is... well, innocent? (Highly Likely)
If the day had progressed well, as an agreement looked like it was about to be made, would it not be possible to infer that Jolt is on the non mafia side, as the mafia don't want an agreement.
Just giving some thoughts, I would put him off my suspicious list, at least for now.
@Beefy: ~D
Vote:Marshal Murat
After some re-reading and deliberation I think your voting is very odd. You vote beefy on the pretext that you are eating beef for your next meal. Following that, you change your vote off him saying you are eating chicken... :whip:
Iskander 3.1
06-23-2009, 02:41
Jolt, are you trying to confuse everyone here?
Yes, I caught the agreement part, but I'd like Jolt to prove he is an orator before I believe anything he says.
Beefy187
06-23-2009, 02:54
Good boy...
I won't be visiting you just yet Death is Yonder.. But I do find you charming..
Perhaps tommorow?
Unvote, Vote: Marshal Murat
Jolt, are you trying to confuse everyone here?
Nah. Maybe? Yeah.
Ignoramus
06-23-2009, 03:06
*Voting Closed.*
Ignoramus
06-23-2009, 03:26
The gathered delegates quickly began to debate who might be responsible for these horrendous attacks.
Delagate Jolt quickly asserted that as he was attacked last night he should be considered above suspicion.
Almost immediately, however, Delegate GeneralHankerchief started to accuse Jolt of being the murder. Many others, caught up in the moment, quickly followed.
Later in the day, however, delegates began to point out that navarro951 hadn't even showed up to join in the discussions. As delegates began to doubt whether Jolt was guilty, a number of votes fell upon navarro951, who if he wasn't guilty, certainly deserved to be executed.
Once the vote was taken, the guards had to search for navarro951. He was found sleeping in his bed, but was quickly dragged out to the village centre.
Looking towards his Gallic colleagues with a surprised expression he tried to defend himself but the guards weren't listening, and he was thrust through with a spear.
navarro951: 7 (ATPG, spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Quintus.JC, Jolt, johnhughthom, Iskander 3.1, atheotes)
Jolt: 2 (GeneralHankerchief, taka)
Marshal Murat: 2 (Death is yonder, Marshal Murat)
taka: 1 (Count Arach)
Beefy187: 1 (Cronos Impera)
atheotes: 1 (A Very Super Market)
johnhughthom: 1 (Tratorix)
Shinesikhaan: 1 (White_eyes:D)
Quintus.JC: 1 (Shinseikhaan)
A Very Super Market: 1 (Chaotix)
Abstain: 6 (Cultured Drizzt fan, Beskar, Yaropolk, Marshal Murat, LittleGrizzly, Greyblades)
Not Voting: 9 (Khazaar, Caius, Phog_of_War, navarro951, King Jan III Sobieski, El Diablo, Psychonaught, Beaver, pevergreen,)
Alive: (32/35)
Greyblades
Askthepiazzaguy
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Jolt
Khazar
Iskander 3.1
A Very Super Market
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
Yaropolk
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
Tratorix
LittleGrizzly
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera
pevergreen
CountArach
Phog of War
Beefy187
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
Beaver
El Diablo
King Jan III Sobieski
navarro951
Murdered: (2)
Sasaki Kojiro
Captain Blackadder
Executed: (1)
navarro951
It is now Night 2. This night phase will end on Wednesday, June 24th at 3:00 am GMT.
CountArach
06-23-2009, 03:46
FoS: EVERYONE who bandwaggoned Navaros. Come on! The guy is just lurking first round...
I just missed the end of that phase otherwise I would've voted for Jolt. There are just some things that don't check out in my head. I'll re-read the evidence and post it up for tomorrow.
Death is yonder
06-23-2009, 04:10
Good boy...
I won't be visiting you just yet Death is Yonder.. But I do find you charming..
Perhaps tommorow?
Unvote, Vote: Marshal Murat
TheFlax won't be pleased to hear of this :clown:
Beefy187
06-23-2009, 04:12
TheFlax won't be pleased to hear of this :clown:
Its ok, his not in the game :laugh4:
FoS: EVERYONE who bandwaggoned Navaros. Come on! The guy is just lurking first round...
I just missed the end of that phase otherwise I would've voted for Jolt. There are just some things that don't check out in my head. I'll re-read the evidence and post it up for tomorrow.
Be my guest. The only "evidence" against me is: 1. A made-up theory inside taka's head (Who I do note he has still failed to answer my own question, as I answered all of them) where the words "two guards", quote "must only mean that he was protected by two players", and that those imaginable two players are quite obviously, the legates. I cannot explain the number, to me it'd be the same as having three, four or ten. I suppose Ignoramus picked either the entire protection ability I have to have been just two guards, or everyone has two guards. I should also note to those who have been more interested in attacking me than actually reading the text that the said Two Guards! (I should really start bolding the words as a sign of dread) were fighting "a couple of men". Now, according to taka's analogy, since my Two Guards! were obviously my henchmen as I can only be protected by three citizens, then the couple of men can only be the other team henchmen. Obviously it makes all sense now. This is a grand showdown between both factions in Night 1 without any investigations having been done. But then again. If all four men were tied in this grand showdown then who killed Sasaki and BA? Hmm...Something's off...
EDIT: 2. The WIFOM. This is the only thing that can be pinned against me, but I refute it basing myself on the original intentions, which have so far worked (And will surely work even better once we know who was the group that attacked me), at least I suspect so. The WIFOM is bound to stop anyhow as I have already cycled every available job except Consuls/Praetors of Rubicon.
Marshal Murat
06-23-2009, 04:38
I gave a little speech thingy about not abstaining, so I just voted on the weakest of pretenses. If I had been electrocuted I would've voted Jolt, if I had read an Emily Dickinson poem I would voted "Death is Yonder". And then I abstained.
Hey, sorry about missing the start of the game. Less lurk, more talk from me. :bow:
pevergreen
06-23-2009, 12:08
I should hope so Rythmic.
Fades back into hypocrisy.
Hey, sorry about missing the start of the game. Less lurk, more talk from me. :bow:
Couldn't have said it better myself, was about to post the same thing. No more lurking from me :shame:
LittleGrizzly
06-23-2009, 13:21
The navarro bandwagon was cheap... better than lynching a potential pro town role though...
I was worried for a moment if the new spelling of my name was Beaver. Luckily, it was just another player.
Death is yonder
06-23-2009, 14:01
Marshal Murat: 2 (Death is yonder, Marshal Murat)
Igno, your tally has MM voting for himself, instead of beefy :bow:
Marshal Murat
06-23-2009, 18:15
Igno, your tally has MM voting for himself, instead of beefy
WIFOM FTW.
@jolt
i was simply stating the possibilities
however, what im more surprised at is how everyone bandwaggon'd jolt and then changed target so quickly. that is ultra scummy
A Very Super Market
06-23-2009, 20:17
Obviously, we're all out to get you.
@jolt
i was simply stating the possibilities
however, what im more surprised at is how everyone bandwaggon'd jolt and then changed target so quickly. that is ultra scummy
It's curious how you managed to see (I must indeed remember your words "must only be that he was protected by two other players") automatic protection in two words, but failed to see the amount of people attacking me were exactly the same as the ones defending me. As such, its pretty obvious to me that the numbers of attackers and defenders are, as they were in Rubicon, completely irrelevant.
Also: Yes it is completely scummy, and I'm very sure we got quite some Mafia names inside my bandwagon. I have been contacted to participate in group actions by (curiously) several of those names.
CountArach
06-24-2009, 02:05
Also: Yes it is completely scummy, and I'm very sure we got quite some Mafia names inside my bandwagon. I have been contacted to participate in group actions by (curiously) several of those names.
Participating in group actions is anything but scummy.
Tratorix
06-24-2009, 02:23
If anyone doesn't have a night action for tonight, pm me. Need a couple more people for a group.
LittleGrizzly
06-24-2009, 02:28
I was thinking people should take note of who they worked with and on what night...
Not for a good few rounds but as we down to a lower number of suspects people can then release all this information and even though there will be unconfirmed bits with peoples deaths it will be a lot more information for us to work with...
Also bare faced lieing about working with a dead player can encourage ghosts to raise fingers of suspicion anyway.... so hang onto all your information... we'll find out who wasn't participating...
Marshal Murat
06-24-2009, 02:51
I'll be outta town for a couple days, sparse contact. :sweatdrop:
Ignoramus
06-24-2009, 04:22
Stnad by for write-ups.
Ignoramus
06-24-2009, 09:04
Jolt returned to his hut earlier than usual. The events of last night had shaken him badly. He wanted to see that his hut was prepared in case of another attack.
Just before he went to bed, he took down his shield from the wall, and rested it against his bed. If there was to be trouble tonight, he’d be ready.
As he drifted off to unconsciousness, a soft knock was heard on his door.
"Come in." replied Jolt sleepily.
The door opened and a group of men ran at the bed thrashing at Jolt with their clubs. The result was a very sorry, mangled wreck of Jolt.
Beefy187 was gazing interestedly at the huts while walking down the street. So these were the indomitable Gauls that the Romans had feared.
The conference so far had been all rather exciting. Far more amusing that anything else at this time of year. The only negative had been the cold weather, but then again, what could one expect of Gaul?
So caught up in these thoughts, Beefy187 didn’t notice the shadows moving in the distance.
The next moment a loud crack was heard, and Beefy187 sunk to ground - dead.
Tratorix strode purposefully back to his quarters. The day had been filled with tiresome accusations and allegations. He began to wonder if anything would be achieved by this conference.
Upon reaching his hut, he hurried to his bedroom to change. There was much still to be done.
Hearing the door creak, Tratorix spun around. He had dismissed his guards for the evening, so who could this be?
He didn’t need to wait long. He gaped as he saw the men with drawn swords, and before he could even cover his head he had sunk to the floor, with multiple stab wounds covering his body.
Askthepizzaguy whistled as he strode back to his lodgings. The food had been wonderful, and although many were too worried to be eating, he wasn’t.
As he entered his hut, he was suprised to see a man standing in the hallway. He shouted for his guards, who rushed in. But all too quickly they were overpowered by the men armed with swords. Seeing he was doomed, Askthepizzaguy charged his foes, attacking wildly before he fell and the sharp blades began to pierce his heart.
...
As dawn slowly came over the village, there was more distress and fear in the village. Four people murdered in one night. Two of bodies looked Gaulish, while another displayed Roman features. The other body, however, was unknown to the delegates.
Alive: (28/35)
Greyblades
Beskar
johnhugtom
Death is yonder
atheotes
Khazar
Iskander 3.1
A Very Super Market
Marshal Murat
White eyes:D
Chaotix
Shinseikhaan
Yaropolk
QuintusJC.
Cultured Drizzt fan
LittleGrizzly
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Cronos Impera
pevergreen
CountArach
Phog of War
Psychonaught
Caius
taka
Beaver
El Diablo
King Jan III Sobieski
Murdered: (6)
Sasaki Kojiro
Captain Blackadder
Jolt
Beefy187
Tratorix
Askthepizzaguy
Executed: (1)
navarro951
It is now Day 2. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Tuesday, June 23rd at 9:00 am GMT.
Note: I will send out Night Results PMs soon.
Beefy187
06-24-2009, 09:35
That wasn't nice at all :no:
Death is yonder
06-24-2009, 11:49
[QUOTE=Ignoramus;2269695]
Tratorix strode purposefully back to his quarters. The day had been filled with tiresome accusations and allegations. He began to wonder if anything would be achieved by this conference.
Upon reaching his hut, he hurried to his bedroom to change. There was much still to be done.
Hearing the door creak, Tratorix spun around. He had dismissed his guards for the evening, so who could this be?
He didn’t need to wait long. He gaped as he saw the men with drawn swords, and before he could even cover his head he had sunk to the floor, with multiple stab wounds covering his body.
Askthepizzaguy whistled as he strode back to his lodgings. The food had been wonderful, and although many were too worried to be eating, he wasn’t.
As he entered his hut, he was suprised to see a man standing in the hallway. He had sent his guards home that evening, and was just about to inquire what he was doing there, when he felt the cold steel against his throat. Before he could utter a word, he throat was slit, and the sharp blades were already piercing their way into his heart.
...
Curious, all the bolded and underlined phrases bear more discussion. There are also a few errors in the writing.
I think the discrepancies/similarities in such situations will allow us to analyze the write ups further.
Cronos Impera
06-24-2009, 11:57
Vote:Cultured Drizzt fan
He knows why, like I know.
GeneralHankerchief
06-24-2009, 11:58
I don't seem to appear anywhere on the list.
GH has super secret role :grin:
LittleGrizzly
06-24-2009, 12:28
So two of our victims had guards, they were some type of consul role like in rubicon ?
I don't think the typo would be Woad and Fangs, so maybe were looking for someone whose written english isn't the best (a list i always make it on to..)
The investigation of beefy seems a little pointless now...
Edit: Wrong game, host is Ignoramus. Point still stands though i think, I think Ignoramus writes pretty well in English...
Beefy187
06-24-2009, 12:53
So two of our victims had guards, they were some type of consul role like in rubicon ?
I don't think the typo would be Woad and Fangs, so maybe were looking for someone whose written english isn't the best (a list i always make it on to..)
The investigation of beefy seems a little pointless now...
Edit: Wrong game, host is Ignoramus. Point still stands though i think, I think Ignoramus writes pretty well in English...
I was neutral
CountArach
06-24-2009, 12:57
Edit: Wrong game, host is Ignoramus. Point still stands though i think, I think Ignoramus writes pretty well in English...
Yes, but everyone is prone to slip-ups, for example the very post before the write-ups (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2269584&postcount=206).
I wouldn't read too much into it all.
As dawn slowly came over the village, there were many anxious discussion going on between the delegates, all of them had quickly rushed to the village centre as soon as they had heard the news of the deaths. Two bodies, one Gaulish and one Roman had been found.
But four people were killed?
It is now Day 2. You may begin voting. This day phase will end on Tuesday, June 23rd at 9:00 am GMT.
And that was yesterday... ?
:dizzy2:
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-24-2009, 15:22
I was wondering about that two, could it be that two of the people killed were neutral roles? (finals done yaaaayyyyy!!!!!)
Iskander 3.1
06-24-2009, 15:35
Let's do the time warp again!!!
But to be serious:
Vote:Cultured Drizzt fan
He knows why, like I know.
Why?
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-24-2009, 15:38
Let's do the time warp again!!!
But to be serious:
Why?
wait when did that happen?
perhaps he is talking about the fact that in Rubicon he sent Pompey a message to save himself by lynching Cultured Drizzt Fan. understandably, it didn't work out :beam:
Sasaki Kojiro
06-24-2009, 16:31
The town is going to lose this one...
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 18:40
Four kills, the first one seems to be a vigilante kill...
Or maybe several of them are, "Shadows" with beefy, "Group of men" with jolt, and ATPG was killed by "Sharp blades"
Even tratorix was acosted by a group of "men with drawn swords."
I believe that either the killing groups have some sort of ability to work together, or more likely.
We as townies should be very afraid of ourselves...
Yaropolk
06-24-2009, 18:45
I hope that townies arent randomly killing people. If this is the mafia's work then one theory is swords = roman, clubs = gauls, however in this case the number of dead dont always fall equally on both sides. If this is right then gaul mafia killed some gaul citizens.
Cultured Drizzt fan
06-24-2009, 19:06
we probably have some vigilante groups running around.
also of note, Tratorix was talking about setting up a Kill/protect group. I think the mafia may be killing anyone who tries to come forward to organize these groups......
I think the mafia does not want a repeat performance of Rubicon, where they got screwed when everyone ended up in these protection groups. and if that is the case, I AM NOT SETTING UP A PROTECTION GROUP! DO NOT KILL ME! :sweatdrop::sweatdrop: please? :clown:
A Very Super Market
06-24-2009, 19:16
What we don't want are townies joining the mafia. CDF looks like he's at risk of doing this....
Iskander 3.1
06-24-2009, 19:26
Tratorix contacted me to join in a kill/protect group, but he didn't follow through on who else was involved.
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 19:29
He contacted me as well but nothing ever came of it...
Has anyone organized some groups? It worked last time... I suppose you´d have to organize your own defense...
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 19:41
Alright, we can't just sit here and talk about this.
I'll see if I can get something going, I'll have my own protection group as well don't worry about that, but I'd like anyone who wants to be a part of a group to PM me, please.
Iskander 3.1
06-24-2009, 20:09
I wonder who was responsible for Beefy. He wasn't killed by swords or clubs, and I don't think that an organized townie group would kill someone by sneaking up from behind. Wonder if there's another role out there?
I'm also curious by what was meant by Tratorix and AtPG "dismissing their guards." Were they power roles, who should have been protecting themselves?
Quintus.JC
06-24-2009, 20:10
Tratorix contacted me as well about forming a kill/protection group, those on the list were Iskander 3.1, johnhughthom, Jolt, spL1tp3r50naL1ty and me. I think finding the killer on that list is unlikely since it would be too obvious, it seems that revealing his intentions in public was the reason why Tratorix was killed.
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 20:11
A "crack" denotes a skull cracking, which means a club probably did it.
Unless someone has a gun (Whatever that is >_>)
:laugh4:
It seems like we are doomed without Sasaki to give us the answers. I'll see about setting conflicting protect/vig groups up this coming night, if everyone's ok with it.
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 20:11
Go ahead chaotix, couldn't hurt us.
Maybe you :P
Yaropolk
06-24-2009, 20:37
Tratorix contacted me as well about forming a kill/protection group, those on the list were Iskander 3.1, johnhughthom, Jolt, spL1tp3r50naL1ty and me. I think finding the killer on that list is unlikely since it would be too obvious, it seems that revealing his intentions in public was the reason why Tratorix was killed.
That statement is suspicious. Also you would need 7 people to make such a group.
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 20:45
I don't find it suspicious, becuase it's pretty true.
If I was mafia I wouldn't have killed someone who contacted me and several other people trying to help the town, that's way too easy to trace back to me...
He contacted us about making a "kill or protection" group, he was going to get more people, probably, but never did... So the group went nowhere.
Iskander 3.1
06-24-2009, 20:56
In Quintus' defence, I was also emailed by Tratorix. It was cc'd to the other people mentioned by Quintus. He wanted us to attack. He said the protection group was organized, but didn't say who was in it.
johnhughthom
06-24-2009, 21:01
The protection group was Tratorix, Quintus.JC and myself.
Iskander 3.1
06-24-2009, 21:11
Quintus was contacted to both kill and protect?
I'm also curious by what was meant by Tratorix and AtPG "dismissing their guards." Were they power roles, who should have been protecting themselves?
they were most probably senators/chiefs
Splitpersonality
06-24-2009, 21:20
I was never informed of any other group so I treated it as it was, a failured group attempt.
Quintus.JC
06-24-2009, 21:28
Quintus was contacted to both kill and protect?
Me, johnhugthom and Tratorix were supposed to protect somebody last night, but Traorix is dead now. I do not know anyone else in the group apart from the ones that I've already mentioned.
atheotes
06-24-2009, 21:41
Me, johnhugthom and Tratorix were supposed to protect somebody last night, but Traorix is dead now. I do not know anyone else in the group apart from the ones that I've already mentioned.
Did you get a night result from Ignoramus?
King Jan III Sobieski
06-24-2009, 21:54
Treachery abounds! God save us all!!! :dizzy2::help::inquisitive:
Quintus.JC
06-24-2009, 22:46
Did you get a night result from Ignoramus?
Not presently, I am requesting it though. I think Ignoramus probably didn't have the time, he is using invisible mode so you can't tell when he's online. Had anyone else got their Night results?
Tratorix
06-24-2009, 23:18
Tratorix contacted me as well about forming a kill/protection group, those on the list were Iskander 3.1, johnhughthom, Jolt, spL1tp3r50naL1ty and me. I think finding the killer on that list is unlikely since it would be too obvious, it seems that revealing his intentions in public was the reason why Tratorix was killed.
:laugh4:
Lynch Quintus. That is my final wish. :skull:
johnhughthom
06-25-2009, 00:33
I haven't received a night action result either, why are you suspicious of Quintus, Tratorix?
Splitpersonality
06-25-2009, 00:37
I believe the highlighted part of the sentance would do it :P
Yaropolk
06-25-2009, 01:13
I believe that all the facts QJC brought up are true, but he also posted a defense for himself and the rest of the townie group out of the blue without anyone accusing him. The rest of the group (who are likely innocent) jumped in right away to defend QJC's statement since it clears them as well. In reality QJC has no way of knowing if any of his group partners are mafia or not. Therefore he must be defending himself.
Vote: Quintus.JC
CountArach
06-25-2009, 01:20
I believe that all the facts QJC brought up are true, but he also posted a defense for himself and the rest of the townie group out of the blue without anyone accusing him. The rest of the group (who are likely innocent) jumped in right away to defend QJC's statement since it clears them as well. In reality QJC has no way of knowing if any of his group partners are mafia or not. Therefore he must be defending himself.
Vote: Quintus.JC
Sounds convincing enough to me I suppose.
Vote: Quintus
I still have to go through Jolt's posts... Procrastination is a hash mistress.
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