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@Olly, if by "Brennan" you are refering to myself then I would like to explain. When I said the next preview would be an atomic bomb I meant that it would make a big impact on the forum purely becuase there hasn't been a preview in a while now. I didn't mean the next preview would contain a faction which no one expects but rather it will receive alot of attention and greatly influence the politically situation on the map if indeed it is a Belgic, Iberian or Germanic faction as within those areas it will curtail the expansion of the factions already present in those regions.
Also I am not a member of the EBII team, in case my post led you to believe I was, thus I have no idea which faction will be revealed.
Mithridates VI Eupator
09-22-2010, 19:51
Did you not see the Pritanoi preview? Mental squirrel death rays are in!
But seriously he said that the next preview would be an "atomic bomb" in reference to everyone speculating on the factions being belgae and iberian so I'm expecting a surprise in the next one.......... whenever that is...........................
Just so everyone is clear on that, Brennus is not a member of the EB team, so his remark is just an educated guess. Unless he has somehow hacked our internal fora... :inquisitive:
In any case, I think that we still have a few surprises in store for you!
EDIT: You beat me to it, Brennus!
Dang, you mean this atomic bomb shelter I've been burrowing for the past two weeks isn't going to be necessary? I guess that I also took him too seriously. But really, it doesn't seem certain to me that the next preview will be of an unrevealed faction. I'm personally really looking forward to a preview for the Bosporan Kingdom, mainly because I have no idea what to expect in terms of their units and government system. Though, if EB1's AoR units are a good representation, they may just be typical Hellenic units, plus a few Scythians and one awesome heavy foot archer unit.
Just so everyone is clear on that, Brennus is not a member of the EB team, so his remark is just an educated guess. Unless he has somehow hacked our internal fora... :inquisitive:
EDIT: You beat me to it, Brennus!
Never underestimate the technical prowess of an archaeologist. I must say I didn't reaise so many of the team worked in lap dancing clubs...
stratigos vasilios
09-23-2010, 09:06
I had quite a laugh reading the above posts. Who knew Brennus was "on the EB team".
*makes quote sign with fingers*
Who dares doubt my modding abilities?
https://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad252/Commios/EBIII.jpg
Any hints from the EBII team as to what the occultus factions are? I'll draw you a pretty picture if you help us out...
Brave Brave Sir Robin
09-23-2010, 19:25
Who dares doubt my modding abilities?
https://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad252/Commios/EBIII.jpg
Any hints from the EBII team as to what the occultus factions are? I'll draw you a pretty picture if you help us out...
Nice concept art!
Is that a Bartix unit? General's bodyguard, perhaps?
Yes.
I may have got confused.
And sorry for getting your name wrong Brennus.
And sorry for getting your name wrong Brennus.
That's alright.
...Unless he has somehow hacked our internal fora... :inquisitive:...
Oh we all have. In fact we're all playing pirate EB2 now, and just keeping up pretences with all the occultus guessing games.
Its a great mod btw, but the Lugians and Nabataeans are a bit OP (camel riding FMs ftw!) and maybe you could tweak the Western Greek City State Alliance start positions so the Etruscans don't get rolled so easily.
stratigos vasilios
09-24-2010, 03:18
Brennus, you forgot to put the word Occultus over that sig you made. Now everyone can see which faction it is, the Celtibrennus'.
...Ok I think we've shaken the life out of this joke now.
Tellos Athenaios
09-24-2010, 04:58
Oh we all have. In fact we're all playing pirate EB2 now, and just keeping up pretences with all the occultus guessing games.
Its a great mod btw, but the Lugians and Nabataeans are a bit OP (camel riding FMs ftw!) and maybe you could tweak the Western Greek City State Alliance start positions so the Etruscans don't get rolled so easily.
Well if that is the case this should end the debate on releasing the mod quite nicely. There's no need for us to release anything, since you already got it! :balloon3:
Well if that is the case this should end the debate on releasing the mod quite nicely. There's no need for us to release anything, since you already got it! :balloon3:
That's ok, sorry we all got impatient. Now which of the four Goidelic factions to play as today, decision decisions. If you need any more high quality concept art just let me know.
As stratigos said maybe best we move on before Ludens comes after us. Is there any chance of the team giving us a clue as to what the occultus factions are?
stratigos vasilios
09-24-2010, 17:45
For some reason I'm feeling the Helvetii. Have they been ruled out?
I had a similar feeling a few weeks ago. Although they were small I think they would be a worthy candidate. After all they were both powerful enough to cause the Romans concern on two occassions and were expansionist (migratory) at at least one point in their history, plus we know how their government functioned and that they employed a phalanx formation (at least in the first century BC).
As the Saba and the Pritanoi have survived as inclusions I think it gives the Helvetii a good chance.
I agree that the Helvetii may be a great guess based on the starting position of the Eleutheroi tribe already in that area in EB1. The other new factions that have been confirmed have stronger than average starting position compared to other eleutheroi tribes in EB1.
Who dares doubt my modding abilities?
https://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad252/Commios/EBIII.jpg
I do. :clown:
so does Scorpion :jester::
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080830161156/mk/images/thumb/5/5d/Render2.jpg/180px-Render2.jpg
I had a similar feeling a few weeks ago. Although they were small I think they would be a worthy candidate. After all they were both powerful enough to cause the Romans concern on two occassions and were expansionist (migratory) at at least one point in their history, plus we know how their government functioned and that they employed a phalanx formation (at least in the first century BC).
As the Saba and the Pritanoi have survived as inclusions I think it gives the Helvetii a good chance.
makes sense to me. Now let's wait and see if it will be included.
Well if that is the case this should end the debate on releasing the mod quite nicely. There's no need for us to release anything, since you already got it! :balloon3:
...except I lost mine again:sweatdrop:.
Pls don't punish me for being a smartypants...
.... Now which of the four Goidelic factions to play as today, decision decisions...
Lol the Atlantaeans aren't Goidelic.
anubis88
09-26-2010, 23:39
It's nice to see that this thread isn't spammed in. At all :clown:
Well, this is my first post, (seeing as I have just registered), but I have been silently watching for a few weeks now, and have been using various programs to try to determine the origin of this secret faction. It has taken A LOT of work in Photoshop and Paint.Net, and I *think* I have figured it out. It took a lot of noise cancellation, gamma manipulation, edge detection and the like, and with my mediocre knowledge of this time period it became something of a chore to look this up - how do you find a symbol that you don't know the name for?
Anyway, without further adieu, I preset to you MY manipulation of the signature, as well as my idea of the Occultus faction. One which NOBODY Expected...
http://www.mbd2.com/forum/balloon_Animal_Blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/spanish_inquisition.jpg
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
;)
stratigos vasilios
10-04-2010, 11:09
They have already been confirmed. Moros and Bobbin are half way through that preview...
Welcome to the forums btw!
Populus Romanus
03-07-2011, 01:40
So which one of these was the Lugiones?
This one.
https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9154/logosecret7.jpg
Populus Romanus
03-07-2011, 02:15
Damn. How in the world were we supposed to figure that out?:laugh4: Now all we need to figure out is Moros'.
eddy_purpus
03-07-2011, 02:57
Can you guys post the other Occultus´ banners please?
stratigos vasilios
03-07-2011, 11:13
I think Gamergeek has one of the occultus sigs? Possibly Hax too, bah I can't remember.
It's Moros' one.
https://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5392/logosecret6gi7.jpg
stratigos vasilios
03-07-2011, 13:06
Bobbin am I crazy or is your sig slowly getting lighter? Good to see the insanity is slowly kicking in...
On TWC about a province: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=377791&page=32
Lihyan? Dedan?
Lihyan?
bingo!
Maybe some ideas for the speculation thread.
Bobbin am I crazy or is your sig slowly getting lighter? Good to see the insanity is slowly kicking in...
I'm afraid you are. :no:
eddy_purpus
03-07-2011, 20:22
Thats the last one Moros?
µNot the last undisclosed faction but the last occultus banner.
Populus Romanus
03-08-2011, 01:35
I'm afraid you are. :no:
Yeah, I must agree, hes right. It is clearly getting darker.
eddy_purpus
03-08-2011, 01:43
µNot the last undisclosed faction but the last occultus banner.
Thats what I asked for lawl ty
Populus Romanus
03-08-2011, 01:50
The symbol seems to have some sort of engraving on it, and is rather stylized. Maybe if we can figure out what "style" of art it is, which will tell us what culture it came from, then we narrow down the options.
Khazar_Dahvos
03-08-2011, 02:49
i still think its a bull
eddy_purpus
03-08-2011, 03:03
It looks like it has an Eagle´s head in the left of the symbol ++
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-08-2011, 05:01
The symbol seems to have some sort of engraving on it, and is rather stylized. Maybe if we can figure out what "style" of art it is, which will tell us what culture it came from, then we narrow down the options.
Meroitic relief?
The symbol seems to have some sort of engraving on it, and is rather stylized. Maybe if we can figure out what "style" of art it is, which will tell us what culture it came from, then we narrow down the options.
Very good thinking but I'm afraid we've already tried that a billion times :laugh4: :embarassed:
Populus Romanus
03-08-2011, 07:02
Meroitic relief?
No, Meroe is not in, they have been ruled out like a gajillion times.
Very good thinking but I'm afraid we've already tried that a billion times :laugh4: :embarassed:Maybe if we ask really nicely*, they'll tell us.
*Really nicely=how much money does it take to bribe Moros? Hehe...hopefully less than $50.
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-08-2011, 08:04
No, Meroe is not in, they have been ruled out like a gajillion times.
Yes, I know (culture limitations and all that), I was just remarking as to the style of art question, and the first thing that what little we have reminds me of is the Meroitic reliefs that I have seen. But, bearing in mind that Meroe has been ruled out then.... that sort of art influenced, and was influenced itself, by surrounding cultures. So I would say something in the Babylonian/Syrian area... the Nabatu, perhaps?
Populus Romanus
03-08-2011, 08:07
Yes, I know (culture limitations and all that), I was just remarking as to the style of art question, and the first thing that what little we have reminds me of is the Meroitic reliefs that I have seen. But, bearing in mind that Meroe has been ruled out then.... that sort of art influenced, and was influenced itself, by surrounding cultures. So I would say something in the Babylonian/Syrian area... the Nabatu, perhaps?
Ding-ding! Doth we haveth a winner? I hope so, Nabatu would be cool.
It's true, they are good candidates. http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsMiddEast/ArabicNabataea.htm
Wait and see.
Populus Romanus
03-11-2011, 01:07
Could Moros' signature be the Arevaci symbol?
Horatius Flaccus
03-11-2011, 02:33
It could.
eddy_purpus
03-11-2011, 05:17
Could Moros' signature be the Arevaci symbol?
Can you post Arevaci related symbols so we can ..mmhm...
COMPARE ;P
Populus Romanus
03-11-2011, 05:40
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/F%C3%ADbula_celt%C3%ADbera_de_Lancia_%28M.A.N._22925%29_01.jpg/773px-F%C3%ADbula_celt%C3%ADbera_de_Lancia_%28M.A.N._22925%29_01.jpg
Mithridates VI Eupator
03-11-2011, 16:44
Poor little misguided souls...
Kuningaz
03-11-2011, 19:21
Seeing the picture of Zoroaster on EB Twitter gave me the following idea:
How about Media Atropatene? The animal shown could well be a bull - a sacred animal in Zoroastrianism. After all M.A. was an independent kingdom at the time and also regarded as the center of Zoroastrianism...
Populus Romanus
03-12-2011, 00:27
Poor little misguided souls...
EBIILiez
moonburn
03-14-2011, 06:14
if it´s a bull then it´s the arevaci´s (did the celtiberians had that kind of art or style?) i mean seriously the arevaci have to be in the game both to block the lusitanii since the carthies are pansies aswell as to represent the iberian peninsula political division just as the eduii and the arverni do in gaul
Brave Brave Sir Robin
03-14-2011, 18:44
Maybe this is it? Celtiberian horse.
http://www.thecelticrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/celtic-horse.gif
eddy_purpus
03-15-2011, 00:41
EB team members required to tell us!!!!
Is it?
Populus Romanus
03-15-2011, 00:44
EB team members required to tell us!!!!
Is it?
Don't bother. What ever they say is lies. Whenever a topic comes within 1,000,000,0000000,000 miles of occultus, their word is nigh. For instance, they claimed that the idea bobbin had at the start of this thread was wrong, when it was right. Don't trust them!
Don't bother. What ever they say is lies. Whenever a topic comes within 1,000,000,0000000,000 miles of occultus, their word is nigh. For instance, they claimed that the idea bobbin had at the start of this thread was wrong, when it was right. Don't trust them!
That was just a stalling tactic while we put together a preview on that faction. He got it right, and his reward was a preview.
Foot
eddy_purpus
03-15-2011, 03:28
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Sooo...
Will the next preview be an Occultus Faction :3?
ziegenpeter
03-15-2011, 14:35
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Foot = God
Sooo...
Will the next preview be an Occultus Faction :3?
Sly attempt, but your chances of getting any information are rather dwindeling with such behavior...
Populus Romanus
03-16-2011, 02:44
Sly attempt, but your chances of getting any information are rather dwindeling with such behavior...
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
sooo...will the next preview be an Occultus faction?
Mithridates VI Eupator
03-16-2011, 09:50
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
Ziegenpeter=God
sooo...will the next preview be an Occultus faction?
Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.
Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.
ziegenpeter
03-16-2011, 20:05
Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.
Or am I? An occult member maybe...
I think with the Boii already revealed, there will be maximum one more barbarian faction
Tellos Athenaios
03-16-2011, 20:16
Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.
Especially since we're out of ideas. I mean porting EB 2 to Shogun II and adding naval battles really was a bit desperate. It's nice to play, but it lacks Occultus factions to tease you with.
I think with the Boii already revealed, there will be maximum one more barbarian faction
I would guess there will be another two barbarian factions revealed, with the Aedui and Averni beginning EBII with only Bibracte and Gergovia that means there is alot of vacant space left in Western Europe not to mention the large area of Iberia which are currently unoccupied. Personally I am willing to bet we will see the Arevaci (definately) the Suessiones/Bellovaci/Nervii (likely) and maybe a second Germanic tribe (unlikely but nice).
Why would that help?
Ziegenpeter is not even an EB teammember.
Stop spamming and try to come up with some clever ideas for Occultus factions instead.
don't you see? they're trying to bribe/be sycophantic to anyone who might know, so they feel flattered enough to say if their answer was right. you see, they did all the thinking even if it was all that of a jellyfish :clown:
anyways: I demands an Arabian faction! where is the preview to the Nabatu? I had a songbird perch by the window that told me all about it! songbirds are a sign of the truth!!! :clown:
ok, srsly: I really do think there may well be a Nabatu/other north Arabian faction: here's why:
1-the area above (northern Arabia) is not well factioned
2-I'm sure someone in EB would be interested to work on it-especially as a few members are also members of the Asia Ton Barbaron mini-mod (apologies to that group for not starting on some of those models: RL). Nabatu was one faction there.
3-they were-sorta-expansionistic. certainly more so than the Saba'yans.
4-there's enough research from archaeologists on the area; I'm too lazy to make a faction case thread though :clown:
5-a songbird really did perch by the window and say so. :clown:
ziegenpeter
03-17-2011, 01:26
if only clownfaces would be a mean to make factions happen...
Especially since we're out of ideas. I mean porting EB 2 to Shogun II and adding naval battles really was a bit desperate. It's nice to play, but it lacks Occultus factions to tease you with.
Oh, well then, what do you say we just agree that EB2's already got enough factions, and you guys can go ahead and release it? :laugh4:
If there must be an Occultus faction to be added, though, I would strongly suggest... the Kretans. You might be able to form that Occultus signature into a Minoan bull if you work it right. I'm afraid I don't have quite enough information to build a proper Faction Proposal thread, but I do recall this passage from the Bible: "Even one of their own men, a prophet from Crete, has said about them, 'The people of Crete are all liars, cruel animals, and lazy gluttons.' This testimony is true." - Titus, chapter 1
So, you know, you can start with that. And hey, there's already a unique archer unit for them! Starting territory shouldn't be a problem, either.
:turtle:
(yes, I'm joking)
if only clownfaces would be a mean to make factions happen...
I never intended it to make factions "happen".
though in all seriousness, I do suspect that Nabatu is a faction that may be in the game.
ziegenpeter
03-22-2011, 15:17
That would make the whole region a lot more interesting, imho.
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-22-2011, 20:43
I seem to remember that the EB2 team, early on, said that there was room for 10 new factions. We know of 5 of them (Pergamon, Bosphoran Kingdom, Massylia, Boii and the Lugiones) so....thinking about the map, where might the other factions be? Well, I think it is almost certain that one of the Celtiberian groups is going to be in (Arevaci?), I would put money on there being a Belgic faction in some form. Who else? The Nabatu have got to be in with a shout. That leaves two more....
Media Atropatene? Remained (as far as I can figure) independent and active - politically and militarily - for the greater part of EB2's timeframe.
Galatia? Perhaps too many factions in such a small area, but then....., perhaps because of all those other powers Galatia might only be able to survive as a faction, rather than as an Eleutheroi province.
Sequani? Perhaps a bit too much for the area but....in alliance with the Helvetii might provide a little more intrigue into Gaul/Germania.
Scordisci? Maybe just a little more pressure in that are of the map, to stop the Epirotes/Makedons from spreading too rapidly North, or the Getai taking too much Westward too easily.
Skythia? I know, a weak one this but you never know - the Hellenised Kingdom was active and expansionist...
Just throwing a few ideas out, and putting forward that beyond the (expected) Celtiberian, Belgae and Nabatu factions, the remainder (two factions) are difficult to guess.
Expected: Arevaci, Atropatene, Nabatu, Syrakusai, scripting related slot
Wanted (XD): Arevaci, Nabatu, Belgae, Dalmatae, Aquitani
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-22-2011, 21:49
Expected: Arevaci, Atropatene, Nabatu, Syrakusai, scripting related slot
Wanted (XD): Arevaci, Nabatu, Belgae, Dalmatae, Aquitani
I just can't see Syrakusai fitting the bill - during the time period we're talking about.
I'm putting my money on; Arevaci, Nabatu, a Belgic tribe, Media Atropatene and the Scordisci.
Populus Romanus
03-22-2011, 23:57
I just can't see Syrakusai fitting the bill - during the time period we're talking about.
I'm putting my money on; Arevaci, Nabatu, a Belgic tribe, Media Atropatene and the Scordisci.
Yeah, sounds like my hopes as well.
I'm with Arevaci, nabatu, a tribe between gauls and sweboz(so possibly belgae) and Atropatene no clue about the last one.
bet: I'd be nice to have more Occultus sigs^^ right now there only is this green one of which many people think it shows a bull. then we'd at least have the chance to guess :)
fomalhaut
03-25-2011, 22:19
seems like europe is going to be way too crowded. what about the east, besides nabatu?
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-26-2011, 00:01
seems like europe is going to be way too crowded. what about the east, besides nabatu?
I'm not really sure what else could be added in the East, realistically. We already have the Arche Seleukia, Baktria, Pahlava, Sauro, Hai, Pontos, Ptolemai and the Sabyn. Add to that Pergamon, Bosphoran Kingdom and then (possibly) Nabatu and Atropatene...Perhaps Kartli...., but I'm not sure that their influence in the area could be considered as prominent enough. Whereas in Europe, we know that the Luso's are overpowering, so a Celtiberian faction is required even from the point of view of the mechanics of the game, let alone the interest in such. I went for the Scordisci upon the basis that they will hold off too great an expansion by the Getai into the West, the Macedons or Epirotes North and the Boii and Lugiones East and South. The Belgae...well, I just figured they gotta be there ;-)
Populus Romanus
03-26-2011, 00:43
Yeah, sounds like my hopes as well.
I forgot about Kartli.:wall: I am very confident that they will be in. However, that would mean that one of those five fine choices would have to go. Furthermore, another would have to go because of the "one we have never guessed" thing. Why, why?:bigcry:
Whereas in Europe, we know that the Luso's are overpowering, so a Celtiberian faction is required even from the point of view of the mechanics of the game, let alone the interest in such.
Faction performance in EB ≠ faction performance in EBII
moonburn
03-26-2011, 18:20
herm i would love to play a syrakuse campaign "the return of the western greeks" to "unify" the remaints of the western mediterraenean greeks and retake corsica sardinia sicily with the suport of emporion and massilia and even perhaps arsé
also it could help spice up things in both the iberian peninsula southern france and most importantly beteween the carthies and the romans (272 they start allied to rome and at peace with the punii and then in 265 they try to take messina and all hell breaks loose)
so syracuse can be blamed for how things turned beteween the romans and the punii and if not for them there might have never been a 1st punic war or it might have went very diferently
Gaius Sempronius Gracchus
03-26-2011, 18:28
Faction performance in EB ≠ faction performance in EBII
True this.. but, and without much knowledge of M2:TW's campaign AI, I can't see how - given a clear stretch of Eleutheroi provinces between their starting point and the Southern most Celtic faction (which will, seemingly, be reduced to one province) - that they won't still become an overly powerful force within Europe without a viable Celtiberian counter-faction. Of course...I might be wrong, as I say I'm not familiar (at all) with what is possible with 'Eleutheroi' provinces in M2:TW.
That is running on the assumption that the other factions won't be expanding, remember that Carthage has territory right next to them and will be more expansive due to the AI being better with sea invasions in M2TW.
There are also loads of other factors to consider, such as how their units perform in battles and so on.
fomalhaut
03-26-2011, 20:08
Yep if there is one sure thing in EBI it is that the Lusotan's are going to conquer Iberia. No one ever mentions the brown death -_-
I would imagine the Occulus symbol to look something like this:
https://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad252/Commios/Occultus.jpg
I hope that upload worked.
This is a shot from my ongoing (failing) Aedui campaign showing an Eleutheroi general.
The image on the banner is (at least I think) what is referred to by numismaticians as "The Norfolk Wolf", it appears on Iceni coinage of the late 1st Century and 1st Century AD.
NOW! I know your all going to say:
1. That is too late for EBIIs time period
2. Another British faction has already been ruled out (and even then my money would be on the Trinovantes or Atrebates if there were to be another one)
3. It's the wrong shape.
Yes Im aware of all these things, what I mean is that the Occultus symbol is likely to be similar to this and therefore represents a Celtic faction.
Populus Romanus
03-26-2011, 21:10
Well, if it is the wrong shape...I cannot see that being right.
Brennus has a point it's likely the symbol is Celtic. If not then we can at least rule out it being greek.
fomalhaut
03-27-2011, 00:47
i've been under the impression that the occultus was some silly thing like Roman Ninjas, at least the name sounds so
stratigos vasilios
03-27-2011, 08:31
i've been under the impression that the occultus was some silly thing like Roman Ninjas, at least the name sounds so
Isn't it Latin for 'hidden'?
EDIT: How's this...
https://img856.imageshack.us/img856/329/dwafdefrefe.jpg
Please hold your applause at my awesome graphic design skills...
Andronikos
03-27-2011, 09:54
Please hold your applause at my awesome graphic design skills...
:applause: (sorry, I could not resist)
Anyway, this seems to be a very good guess, they do look like products of the same culture.
EDIT: after further examination, that occulutus symbol looks to me like it's head points to the left and it's something like wolf (or even panther) with the hump being it's wings (so it's some griffin)
XSamatan
03-27-2011, 10:18
some silly thing
The EB-Team never does any silly things. We are full of discipline, honesty and readiness to make sacrifices so EB2 becomes a perfect modification.
XSamatan
fomalhaut
03-27-2011, 10:55
oh so i guess Roman Ninjas are out then?
;)
Only for the first release.
XSamatan
03-27-2011, 12:11
I'm sure you will take comfort in flaming pigs to scare of elephants.
Populus Romanus
03-27-2011, 17:52
The EB-Team never does any silly things. We are full of discipline, honesty and readiness to make sacrifices so EB2 becomes a perfect modification.
XSamatan
So torturing us with these signatures makes EB2 perfect?:dizzy2:
fomalhaut
03-27-2011, 23:18
I'm sure you will take comfort in flaming pigs to scare of elephants.
i personally want female horses in heat. on fire. ridden by roman ninjas.
Well, if it is the wrong shape...I cannot see that being right.
Yes I know that, that's why I said it was the wrong shape.
anubis88
03-29-2011, 23:21
IMHO it's impossible to figure out this occultus sign... Even if you magically find the exact same variation of the symbol the EB team used, i think 99% of people would dissmissit it without even mentioning it... It's just to tough.
I do have a question tough... I would like to see what was under the Lugiones occultus sign (which symbol) if possible
I cannot find the orginal picture but I know it was a version of the header usd in the lugiones preview.
https://img708.imageshack.us/img708/74/lugones.png
Would you be willing to tell us which cultural group the last Occultus faction belongs to (if only to silence the "It must be Syracuse/Jews/Illyria" people)?
Populus Romanus
03-30-2011, 05:58
It is in the Mercuro-Bartix Culture Group, emergent in 1017 AD.
anubis88
03-30-2011, 12:26
I cannot find the orginal picture but I know it was a version of the header usd in the lugiones preview.
https://img708.imageshack.us/img708/74/lugones.png
Lol, that was impossible to discover, since basically the best theory was that there were trees in the background, which could be symbol of almost every faction :)
Thanks tough,
stratigos vasilios
03-30-2011, 12:54
Theory: The occultus sigs are not actually the sigs of the hidden faction, their just there to buy the team time while they figure out what is the hidden faction!
Possible? Yes. Probable? God no.
Meh, now I'm just spamming.
fomalhaut
03-30-2011, 19:03
what it is is something to get you guys all worked up because the team likes to have fun with the project too. "heh heh look at them!"
Macilrille
04-06-2011, 15:39
i personally want female horses in heat. on fire. ridden by roman ninjas.
Damn! He found us out!!!
stratigos vasilios
06-27-2011, 06:49
Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!
Now thread, resurrect!
Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!
Very difficult to do I imaggine, my knowledge of the polities of Eastern Iberia is alsmot non existent but considering the Iberians spoke an non-Indo European language I could imagine there being great difficulties in reconstructing such a faction.
Now thread, resurrect!
Well done doctor!
moonburn
06-27-2011, 15:15
Sourceless guess: Eastern Iberia!
Now thread, resurrect!if they put a georgian faction in i think they´ll run into problems with the russians :X
as anyone noticed the resemblance beteween faction and facism :? (ok extremist left wingers can take it from here i think)
if they put a georgian faction in i think they´ll run into problems with the russians :X
as anyone noticed the resemblance beteween faction and facism :? (ok extremist left wingers can take it from here i think)
You will have Ludens after you if your not careful.
well it's pronounced totally different and btw it's spelled with an s before the C. I don't think the words are related in any way. :P
Iberia, well why not? I'd bet there is at least one new faction in that region tho my money would be on antropane, iberia beeing on second place.
Very difficult to do I imaggine, my knowledge of the polities of Eastern Iberia is alsmot non existent but considering the Iberians spoke an non-Indo European language I could imagine there being great difficulties in reconstructing such a faction.
Well the Georgians still speak an ancestor of that language so it wouldn't that much harder than reconstructing most of the other factions. I think you may be confused with the Iberian language of western Europe, of which much less is know about.
I'm quite sure, he has meant the Iberians in modern eastern spain and not the ancestors of the georgians.
fomalhaut
06-27-2011, 23:37
I thought that as well.
I would like the Arevaci, personally.
But yeah, we should be told at least the culture group!
oh, well that'd be possible aswell, anyway imho there chances are about equal ^^
-> I think that both regions will get one or two new factions.
-> both Iberians are just my second candidate after some wierd people with A. who live close to them
quite a coincedence that.
stratigos vasilios
06-28-2011, 08:34
I'm quite sure, he has meant the Iberians in modern eastern spain and not the ancestors of the georgians.
I most definately meant the Caucasian Iberians.
Well the Georgians still speak an ancestor of that language so it wouldn't that much harder than reconstructing most of the other factions. I think you may be confused with the Iberian language of western Europe, of which much less is know about.
I was referring to the Western European Iberians not the Caucasians.
Due to the confusion I hope they aren't included lol
Just joking, but as said before Atropatene should be more "important"...
It would get us a lot of posts a la:
"You've got it all wrong! Iberians are Spanish and their soldiers look like Megaman! Not like that! so much for historical accuracy!"
Not to say that that could not aswell be my post(tho I tend to doublecheck before I call someone incompetent)!
I agree. There's an unshakeable aura of "bullness" about it, particularly an Indian bull because of the large hump.
http://www.stevealbum.com/lotphotos/main/816184.jpg http://www.indiancoins.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/image2.png
So was this guy right?
Sorry for the necro but I remembered this thread because of the Lovecraft banter (still hanging out for a Dagonic cultured R'lyeh faction btw).
stratigos vasilios
07-15-2011, 06:31
Are their any other/more Occultus sigs floating around?
So was this guy right?
Sorry for the necro but I remembered this thread because of the Lovecraft banter (still hanging out for a Dagonic cultured R'lyeh faction btw).
A round of applause for the one eyed Australian! Sorry to have doubted you sir.
LusitanianWolf
07-15-2011, 19:34
New Moro's one
1531
After putting more luminosity:
1532
Looks arabian or african to me, but well, I'm a history noob :laugh4:
"Nice try, but that'll not work." :laugh4: Despite of that it does work a little bit. I would say two horses facing each other or some similar anmials.
Gotta hope it's a celtiberian horse, but it's so dark, even with luminosity all you can distinguish are slim legs...
LusitanianWolf
07-15-2011, 20:05
Gotta hope it's a celtiberian horse, but is so dark, even with luminosity all you can distinguish are slim legs...
Yes, my first thought was horse (or a horse-cthulhu:clown:) and It also reminded me of some iberian horse art and I'm realy hoping to have some new company to my lusotannans in hispania.....Who knows?
If it is just one horse I cannot see where the head would be placed. Actually I'm not entirely sure if it really is a new occultus sig... but that's for others to explain who thought about that first.
I've only found something about a scepter found in numantia, which has actually two horses though they are not facing each other:
1534
The interplay of the patterns coupled with the coluring suggests either the Bellovaci, the Nervii, Suessiones, Atrebates or Remi to me, in any case a Belgic tribe.
DISCLAIMER: Im going to be childish and pig headed until I get my Belgians!
On a more logical note the font is very similar to the Boii and Sweboz which suggests a western European faction. I was horrifcly wrong on the Mauryan Satrap so I don't want to make too much of an arse of myself again.
Populus Romanus
07-15-2011, 20:45
I remember that they are not above petty trickery. They had an occultus from an already revealed faction and an occultus of a building.
LusitanianWolf
07-15-2011, 20:54
I remember that they are not above petty trickery. They had an occultus from an already revealed faction and an occultus of a building.
And trees (lugiones)
And trees (lugiones)
What's wrong with using trees and buildings?
LusitanianWolf
07-15-2011, 21:00
What's wrong with using trees and buildings?
Nothing. I love trees :laugh4:
Is there anyone who has the urls of all or at least nearly all Occultus Sigs?
MButcher
07-15-2011, 21:19
So was this guy right?
Sorry for the necro but I remembered this thread because of the Lovecraft banter (still hanging out for a Dagonic cultured R'lyeh faction btw).
Victory is mine! I believe this deserves a maniacal laugh. Muwahahahahahaha!
Victory is mine! I believe this deserves a maniacal laugh. Muwahahahahahaha!
LOL! That was a good find sir...
Olimpian
07-15-2011, 22:21
New Moro's one
1531
After putting more luminosity:
1532
Looks arabian or african to me, but well, I'm a history noob :laugh4:
Hey, I just noticed this:
https://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5181/hahagr.jpg (https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/hahagr.jpg/)
Funny.. :laugh4:
I thinks it's a horse and the faction is the Arevaci.
Love that editing Olimpian XD
The black part said exactly that lol
stratigos vasilios
07-16-2011, 03:52
Ah another Occultus sig guessing game
*stretches, limbers up*
I remember that they are not above petty trickery. They had an occultus from an already revealed faction and an occultus of a building.
No we didn't, that was an old occultus sig for the Arverni from the early EB days and the Lugii one was the faction symbol with some tree's in the background.
fightermedic
07-16-2011, 11:49
Victory is mine! I believe this deserves a maniacal laugh. Muwahahahahahaha!
that was foul trickery of them, not to admit you were right!
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