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Myrddraal
04-22-2010, 22:44
What do you think of the current lynch candidates Zack?
pevergreen
04-22-2010, 22:45
Doing a summary thread now then.
I'm liking ATPG's idea, at least with Thermal we can get a good discussion going Vote: TM
Now, if you would Zack, please contribute more.
Askthepizzaguy
04-22-2010, 23:00
That should be plenty of votes on any given candidate. Any other suggestions?
I'd like an explanation as to why Diamond Eye is voting me, he seems to have a very good reason, so I'd like to hear it.
Vote:Yaropolk
What's going on buddy?
Beefy187
04-22-2010, 23:33
I never get it right about Thermal. And I'm not convinced that his guilty.
If thats the case then I should Vote: Thermal Mercury
That should be plenty of votes on any given candidate. Any other suggestions?
The Wog-bait list --
Close to WoG territory:
slashandburn (no votes)
Approaching WoG territory:
Yarapolk
Joooray
Centurion1 (all 1 vote)
I tend to believe slash's explanation that he didn't get a PM, so leave him out. I've already mentioned Centurion1 as an option due to his spotty presence on the forums and the spotty reliability of that one killer, but other than that I prefer people like Zack and Warman who've barely posted yet *have* voted to those who have not. At least until there's more of a pattern to go on.
@YLC -- I think you mean Winston Hughes, not Diamondeye.
Thanks for the summary thread, pever.
Before someone goes and revives me... Don't.
I will not survive one round. Unless someone protects me...
Captain Blackadder
04-23-2010, 00:22
Hmmm... if Warman was a vanilla townie disinterested in the game, he wouldn't bother coming back to the thread to throw in a vote and would leave himself to be WOG'd; continuously returning and slipping by in such a manner is pretty scummy behaviour. Either that or we have a townie with a very CBA attitude.
I take it you feel Warman or Zack are the best lynch options for this round then, Pizza?
Why have I become the baramoter for poor townie attitude? I have realised that I haven't being the best in the past but I am trying to post more.
A Very Super Market
04-23-2010, 00:23
How many votes are on Zack? I don't want R&R style pressure vote bandwagon.
Until then
Vote: Jooray
@YLC -- I think you mean Winston Hughes, not Diamondeye.
I was being sarcastic :P
ignore this post, bad edit
Vote: GH
Still waiting on something useful from you...
Why have I become the baramoter for poor townie attitude? I have realised that I haven't being the best in the past but I am trying to post more.
Nooooo, CBA didn't mean Captain Blackadder, it mean Can't Be A****! xD
I was being sarcastic :P
*looks at sarcasm meter*
*smacks it*
I *thought* it was working OK ...
FoS: GeneralHankerchief
None of his posts have made any sense.
Captain Blackadder
04-23-2010, 01:17
FoS: GeneralHankerchief
None of his posts have made any sense.
In what way?
I'd so like to blame Thermal Mercury for the attack on me, but I'm laughing too hard.
I found it funny too, however even I have more sense than to kill the first person who gets on my case, (call it WIFOM or whatever you will).
I'm seeing it as a setup, that failed, but I'm sure your not.
vote: zack
Someone is missing frequently in kills, his lack of activity here could make it him, although there are probably better lurker choices, this is more or less a self preservation vote.
So, how exactly have my posts been scummy, Secura? :beam:
Seamus Fermanagh
04-23-2010, 02:54
vote: zack
Someone is missing frequently in kills, his lack of activity here could make it him, although there are probably better lurker choices, this is more or less a self preservation vote.
So, how exactly have my posts been scummy, Secura? :beam:
You actually provide the best argument for Zack first.
I'm torn between Zack, YLC, and Thermal. Zack and Thermal for type/style of activity and YLC because of some lingering taint from Sasaki's questions.
Thoughts from each please? Desperation and whining accepted, though the latter itself can be a reason to vote.
I think my style of activity has been somewhat more frequent than Zack's even if I haven't been that active.
I actually thought (compared to games such as star wars) that I was being fairly helpful in this game, but that's just me and my massive ego no doubt. :brood:
So, how exactly have my posts been scummy, Secura? :beam:
I''d explain, but I don't wish to parrot people.
Needless to say though, everything that is scummy about your posts has already mentioned by Renata and doesn't bear repeating.
I''d explain, but I don't wish to parrot people.
Needless to say though, everything that is scummy about your posts has already mentioned by Renata and doesn't bear repeating.
OK, so I FoS'd chaotix...
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In which case, fos: diamondeye & captain blackadder
Yaropolk
04-23-2010, 03:03
Vote:Yaropolk
What's going on buddy?
Not much, you? You try to lynch all your buddies? That's pretty scummy. I think we should lynch Diamondeye - he's not posting enough!
Yaropolk
04-23-2010, 03:06
Vote: Diamondeye - forgot to vote, too busy not sending in kill orders.
too busy not sending in kill orders.
:laugh4:
I think we should lynch Diamondeye - he's not posting enough!
He has a lot more posts than you.
Unvote; Vote: Yaropolk
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Captain Blackadder
04-23-2010, 03:27
OK, so I FoS'd chaotix...
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In which case, fos: diamondeye & captain blackadder
Any reason why me?
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 03:28
Renata stood up. She had been sitting down for a number of hours and she was starting to get sore. Deciding to take a quick walk, she exited out of the town and spotted her favourite landmark. The lighthouse on the hill. It was such a romantic place, she had always wanted to go there with her boyfriend...when she got one. She made the walk and decided to go up to the top, to see the amazing view. As she crested the tower, she sighed. This view was fit for a postcard. The waves lapped at the beach, which was actually sandy. The town was in a flat part amongst hills, the idealistic little community. She walked around the top of the lighthouse, drinking it in. After a while, she decided to head back to town. As she made her way to the stairs downward, she saw him. The man from her dreams, Mr. Right. She may have actually swooned then, as the next thing she knew, she was sitting against the wall, him standing over her, looking every bit a god. He stroked her face and she started to cry in joy. She embraced him, everything feeling perfect. He whispered in her ear,
"Even in death you serve, my love. You are so noble to sacrifice yourself so that others may live. A modern day saviour."
She looked at him confused. Then hey eyes glazed over, she got up and with a leap jumped off the lighthouse. As she fell, her thoughts where of her love. She would wait for him, in death's halls. Forever.
Her love watched as her falling body ignited and burnt away into nothingness. Renata was never seen again.
Alive: 29/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Seamus
Secura
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched: 1/39
autolycus
Killed: 8/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Renata
Wrath of God: 1/39
Lord Winter
Day 5 continues
Sorry to keep posting, but should I have had the power to remove someone, and decidedly do it to someone is annoying me at the moment, I know who I'd choose.
Vote: Thermal Mercury
Oh pever! I missed you so much (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4L4Uv5rf0)! :knuddel: TinCow asked to hold hands on our walk back but even though we've been through so much together, it still wasn't you.
Vote: Thermal Mercury
Vote: Thermal Mercury
:juggle:
Sorry to keep posting, but should I have had the power to remove someone, and decidedly do it to someone is annoying me at the moment, I know who I'd choose.
:juggle:
Kill Thermal now. Renata was our reviver. Nice going. Your dead, I'll make sure of it.
Splitpersonality
04-23-2010, 03:32
Um....what?
:l
Kill Thermal now. Renata was our reviver. Nice going. Your dead, I'll make sure of it.
No need to get personal, fact is I didn't try to kill her, do you have evidence it was me?
Nice going on your behalf to, now mafia will be determined to destroy her.
Splitpersonality
04-23-2010, 03:33
She's on the dead list, is she not destroyed enough?
This game is wacky...
No need to get personal, fact is I didn't try to kill her, do you have evidence it was me?
Nice going on your behalf to, now mafia will be determined to destroy her.
You fool, she is dead, and you just admited to it.
You fool, she is dead, and you just admited to it.
I was under the impression that she was alive, the write up says it.
Look:
Alive: 30/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Renata
Seamus
Secura
slashandburn
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched: 1/39
autolycus
Killed: 7/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Your the only fool here.
I was under the impression that she was alive, the write up says it.
No, the write up says she is quite dead. She died in your place, and as far as I am concerned, it was you. Until you can prove to me otherwise.
Uh... someone just got murdered in the middle of a day phase?
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 03:37
I was under the impression that she was alive, the write up says it.
Look:
Your the only fool here.
lolwut?
She jumped off a lighthouse and burst into flames that consumed her body. How is she alive?
lolwut?
She jumped off a lighthouse and burst into flames that consumed her body. How is she alive?
WHAT
[No f-bomb abbraviations - GH]
Not much, you? You try to lynch all your buddies? That's pretty scummy. I think we should lynch Diamondeye - he's not posting enough!
Oh, you know the usual. I'm not biased, I believe everyone should be lynched equally.
Splitpersonality
04-23-2010, 03:39
lolwut?
She jumped off a lighthouse and burst into flames that consumed her body. How is she alive?
That is getting sigged.
:laugh4:
Post 531 does not exist, therefore that did not just happen.
LMAO.
Anyway she jumped, I can't be held accountable for suicide.
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 03:45
Post 531 does not exist, therefore that did not just happen.
LMAO.
Anyway she jumped, I can't be held accountable for suicide.
Wasn't a suicide.
M-m-m-monster Day kill, kill, kill
Anyway, i'm off to do an exam.
M-m-m-monster
Dear God, I need help... I read this and immediately thought of Lady Gaga. >.<
Wasn't a suicide.
M-m-m-monster Day kill, kill, kill
In which case, would Renata and the gang like to specific what I'm responsible for.
Please enlighten me, did I try to kill her at night, or did I push her off a lighthouse? I can't do both, person who guesses correctly gets to lynch me. ~:rolleyes:
p.s. I secretly love all the coverage I'm getting, make it reenk roink next time.
In which case, would Renata and the gang like to specific what I'm responsible for.
Please enlighten me, did I try to kill her at night, or did I push her off a lighthouse? I can't do both, person who guesses correctly gets to lynch me. ~:rolleyes:
p.s. I secretly love all the coverage I'm getting, make it reenk roink next time.
I never said you tried to killer her last night, and your attitude about it is borderline.
I am saying flatout that you killed her to save your sorry self, and are trying to cover it up. At best, your neutral, and are otherwise a threat to the town.
I never said you tried to killer her last night,
Renata did
and your attitude about it is borderline.
Oh dear
I am saying flatout that you killed her to save your sorry self,
Why? Lemme tink, "Renata is broadcasting to everyone that she thinks I'm mafia, so I'll just kill her and NO ONE will suspect me"
and are trying to cover it up. At best, your neutral, and are otherwise a threat to the town.
Nice 'facts' you got there.
GeneralHankerchief
04-23-2010, 03:57
My head hurts.
MOAR ALE!!!
Seamus Fermanagh
04-23-2010, 03:57
Thermal, you're squirming. Don't know if you offed Renata or not (that part is choppy) but you are definitely wriggling on the hook like someone who has something to lose. My Aggonyduck "gut" is tingling. Either out with it and get protected or adios.
Vote: Thermal Mercury
Seamus Fermanagh
04-23-2010, 03:59
In case I already voted this day -- I am getting confused -- make that:
Unvote; Vote: Thermal Mercury.
Renata did
Oh dear
Why? Lemme tink, "Renata is broadcasting to everyone that she thinks I'm mafia, so I'll just kill her and NO ONE will suspect me"
Nice 'facts' you got there.
Your reaction is just wonderful to it :brood:
You were going to die, your neutral, and you panicked. This isn't a mafia ability, this isn't a town ability, this is a neutral ability, and you, are, dieing, for, it.
Your reaction is just wonderful to it :brood:
I Can't help it if I'm popular :shrug:
Kill Thermal now. Renata was our reviver. Nice going. Your dead, I'll make sure of it.
Interesting.
Splitpersonality
04-23-2010, 04:04
I really do hate to side with a doomed man, but it just seems like a bad move on his part to kill off his number one opposition in the votes. There's such a slim chance it would've worked out for him, killing anyone else could have helped him a bit, but his number one opposition?
I'm also assuming that whomever did the action did the writeup, that might be worth looking at...
tl;dr, Not voting for TM, unlikely he did this, look at writeup.
Why? Lemme tink, "Renata is broadcasting to everyone that she thinks I'm mafia, so I'll just kill her and NO ONE will suspect me"
You know this is WIFOM, Thermal and it isn't going to wash; it certainly looks like a setup, but this could be the response you want people to think, no? "Why would Thermal kill the person accusing him? Mafia wouldn't draw attention to themselves like that"... and so the town looks elsewhere, right?
Your attitude-laden responses really don't do you any favours in regards to the game, because you're only making yourself look shiftier. You can refute claims with a completely rational approach without resorting to sarcasm and such... it might actually help people believe your case.
White_eyes:D
04-23-2010, 04:08
Vote: Thermal Mercury I am getting a "spilled the beans too soon" vibe from him as well:book:
You know this is WIFOM, Thermal and it isn't going to wash; it certainly looks like a setup, but this could be the response you want people to think, no? "Why would Thermal kill the person accusing him? Mafia wouldn't draw attention to themselves like that"... and so the town looks elsewhere, right?
Your attitude-laden responses really don't do you any favours in regards to the game, because you're only making yourself look shiftier. You can refute claims with a completely rational approach without resorting to sarcasm and such... it might actually help people believe your case.
The issue being that I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be refuting.
Unvote:Yaropolk, Vote: YLC
You guys should really start voting YLC. Much better choice than TM.
The issue being that I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be refuting.
Well, I would hazard a guess at the accusation that you killed Renata.
Unvote:Yaropolk, Vote: YLC
You guys should really start voting YLC. Much better choice than TM.
What makes YLC a good lynch choice?
Askthepizzaguy
04-23-2010, 04:13
unvote, vote: Thermal
@Csargo: Good lord, why? If he knew who the reviver was all this time, then I don't think so.
What makes YLC a good lynch choice?
How would he know that Renata was a reviver? She would have had to of revealed that to him, but she obviously wouldn't do that with the amount of suspicion that has been on him. Smells fishy to me.
@Csargo: Good lord, why? If he knew who the reviver was all this time, then I don't think so.
"I am not a clever man"
you know what I'm talking about, also because I hate freedom
Splitpersonality
04-23-2010, 04:22
How would he know that Renata was a reviver? She would have had to of revealed that to him, but she obviously wouldn't do that with the amount of suspicion that has been on him. Smells fishy to me.
Aren't private reveals not allowed in this game or am I confusing it with another game?
or are you implying what i think you are?
Well, I would hazard a guess at the accusation that you killed Renata.
To which I denied.
How would he know that Renata was a reviver? She would have had to of revealed that to him, but she obviously wouldn't do that with the amount of suspicion that has been on him. Smells fishy to me.
What if Renata wasn't one of those people that thought he was suspicious and did reveal to him, though? It's a possibility.
What if Renata wasn't one of those people that thought he was suspicious and did reveal to him, though? It's a possibility.
Thermal's right.
You may not reveal in private. You may not, in private, discuss, allude to, hint or in any way attempt to convince a person/party that you have a certain ability or role.
Good lynch is good.
Askthepizzaguy
04-23-2010, 04:27
Interesting, the rules do state that private reveals aren't allowed. How does one gain knowledge of who the reviver is?
Seamus Fermanagh
04-23-2010, 04:30
A good question. YLC? or pever?
I still say that Thermal is squirming a bit hard -- usually a sign of someone who has a lot to lose -- but that doesn't mean he's mafia.
*sighs* Whichever, do it, be done with it, let us move on. You've all wanted my head since day one, take it. I've done nothing but try to organize this town, and suddenly, I get infiltrated, or at least it feels like it, and everything goes to blokksberg.
I wasn't aware of that rule either.
NO RULES WERE BROKEN. Neither I, nor Renata, broke any rules. Pever would have already alerted me to it if we did.
A good question. YLC? or pever?
I still say that Thermal is squirming a bit hard -- usually a sign of someone who has a lot to lose -- but that doesn't mean he's mafia.
If I had an ability that influenced the game I would have said in order to save my own skin, or at least forged if mafia. But I guess that, yet again, is WIFOM.
Captain Blackadder
04-23-2010, 04:48
vote: Thermal If it still is a day phase saving yourself in that manner is scummy to say the least.
vote: Thermal If it still is a day phase saving yourself in that manner is scummy to say the least.
But I didn't :shrug:
I love how you always turn up about 6 votes into the bandwagon to add a seventh vote for reasoning that has often been recycled 6000 times....
Alright, a level head in this - people, maybe we should pull up a tie, and demand the day killers identity. We still have the doctor role, your not going to die, and when you communicate with us instead of going against us, then we can double our efforts.
OR, you can just let Thermal, or another innocent die.
No pressure.
vote: Thermal If it still is a day phase saving yourself in that manner is scummy to say the least.
Why do I even try?
Alright, a level head in this - people, maybe we should pull up a tie, and demand the day killers identity. We still have the doctor role, your not going to die, and when you communicate with us instead of going against us, then we can double our efforts.
OR, you can just let Thermal, or another innocent die.
No pressure.
I vote tie.
@Csargo
Because you know I appreciate your efforts. :smiley:
atheotes
04-23-2010, 06:22
A mid-day murder? sounds like a one-shot ability to me. More so if she was the resurrector.
Vote: Yaropolk
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 07:17
A good question. YLC? or pever?
You may not privately reveal. I am not aware of anyone doing this. You may, however reveal to your starting groups, or groups you are placed in. (ie Mafia are allowed to privately reveal to each other, the groups of more than one person are as well etc)
NO RULES WERE BROKEN. Neither I, nor Renata, broke any rules. Pever would have already alerted me to it if we did.
Correct, to my knowledge no rules have been broken. However, quite a few people are toeing the line, but I'm watching them and they are erring on the side of caution so I am happy. Those that are, are in relatively constant conversation with me, so I know whats going on. However, I can't see every PM so a degree of trust is on you players.
Alright, a level head in this - people, maybe we should pull up a tie, and demand the day killers identity.
Oh please, have a tie. Keep having ties.
ATPG/others that played Fight for Inishmore! care to inform those that didn't what happens on the second and third ties? :wink:
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 07:22
Edit: this shouldnt be here. :laugh4:
Winston Hughes
04-23-2010, 07:46
So you did resurrect me again, Renata? It's just that you just weren't allowed to tell me that you had this time around... :cry:
Since YLC seems to have the inside line on this, I guess it'll have to be unvote; vote: Thermal Mercury.
I wish people would stay up to date with whats happening, I thought I might actually have a chance of not being destroyed this round, and then a bunch of people that have probably read 2 posts at the top of the page bash in the nail to the coffin which was beginning to loosen.
I can barely breathe in here and don't like the idea of soil caving in on me. :sad:
Askthepizzaguy
04-23-2010, 08:52
I wish people would stay up to date with whats happening, I thought I might actually have a chance of not being destroyed this round
Zack shows up after being poked, doesn't vote, just does an FoS.
If you weren't going to go with a Thermal or a YLC lynch, then you could go with Zack, who was our original suspect for this round. I don't want to do it if it will result in a tie, however, so you might rally some support for the Zack lynch and then we'll see where things stand.
I think there may simply be people engaged in the other game more, which I admit I'm guilty of.
I'm guessing I'm one of the few that is enjoying this more so then (or at least was enjoying, anyway).
Askthepizzaguy
04-23-2010, 09:03
I'm enjoying it, but with 4-5 scums remaining and what appears to be at least one cult, among other bizarre roles, it's tough to make sense of things. I also tend think there's more going on behind the scenes than in front.
With that many strange roles, I think certain people are keeping their head low and trying to keep their intentions and movements private. And then you have baffled basic townies on top of it, probably nothing more than recruitment fodder for this game.
I for one think that Renata's death screams more of trying to divert attention from someone other than TM. Such as, say, vote: Zach.
Diamondeye
04-23-2010, 10:04
I'd like an explanation as to why Diamond Eye is voting me, he seems to have a very good reason, so I'd like to hear it.
Okay :laugh4:
You're the guy sending the most scummy vibes in the game.
:beam:
In which case, fos: diamondeye & captain blackadder
Mind if I ask, what's the deal with me, besides semi-activity?
Vote: Diamondeye - forgot to vote, too busy not sending in kill orders.
Ugh, you figured me out!
No, wait, I'm busy in all the three games - and the two NESes - I'm playing. Not working.
You fool, she is dead, and you just admited to it.
Why is it everyone agrees with this?
Read Renata's death, and then read Thermal's post.
To me, it looks as if Thermal is saying something like this; "If I could kill someone now, it'd be RR". Focus on 1: IF, and 2: It'd be RR. Not Renata. Even if he could kill Renata, he'd be an idiot to crosspost a post that said "if I could kill..." with the writeup of his target dying.
People need to regain their senses, leave Thermal alone and vote: YLC.
I know I'm siding with the prime suspect. I know what light it puts me in. I'm just doing what I can that we don't waste this lynch...
Okay :laugh4:
You're the guy sending the most scummy vibes in the game.
:beam:
Why is it everyone agrees with this?
Read Renata's death, and then read Thermal's post.
To me, it looks as if Thermal is saying something like this; "If I could kill someone now, it'd be RR". Focus on 1: IF, and 2: It'd be RR. Not Renata. Even if he could kill Renata, he'd be an idiot to crosspost a post that said "if I could kill..." with the writeup of his target dying.
People need to regain their senses, leave Thermal alone and vote: YLC.
I know I'm siding with the prime suspect. I know what light it puts me in. I'm just doing what I can that we don't waste this lynch...
Name what I am doing wrong, and that qoute is sarcasm BTW (don't skim) and the second part is simply reading his statement wrong, as if he said "That was what happens when you mess with me". I'm sorry if I get enraged at watching the town's resurrector die.
Man this is confusing. From what I can gather, TM seems to be a decent lynch. And mind you, TM, I have read the whole thread till this point.
I don't think the suspicions about YLC are justified. Though I don't think he is necessarily pro-town, the manson role could be rather neutral, it seems he has sided with the town at this point.
Also about the tie business, why would the killer out himself? Also I don't think it's possible to protect someone during the day, which I think has been suggested.
I can't say much about the other suspects, so that leaves me with Vote: Thermal Mercury.
Captain Blackadder
04-23-2010, 12:29
I'm guessing I'm one of the few that is enjoying this more so then (or at least was enjoying, anyway).
I'm enjoying it mostly due to my very quick death in star wars/
The evidence against TM is too good to ignore. He was (as far as I can tell) leading in the votes prior to the kill of Renata. He was online regularly before the kill, which fits if it's an instantaneous action (which is what I believe it was). Killing Renata also removed one of his main accusers and got rid of a vote on him. Too obvious? Possibly, but I see no better suspect and that was not a pro-town action.
Unvote; Vote: TM
Seamus Fermanagh
04-23-2010, 13:30
I make the count thus:
Thermal = : Joooray, TinCow, Winston, Blackadder, 'pizzaguy, Renata (still counts?), Secura, Reenk, YLC, Beefy, & Seamus
Zach = 4: 'khaan, Niklas, Thermal, White_eyes
YLC = 1: Csargo
Yaro = 1: Atheotes
Warman = 1: Split
Joooray = 1: AVSM
Diamond = 1: Yaro
--- do you confirm this pever'?
Thermal, I had thought about a tie with Zach, and Zach is certainliy lurking without adding anything, but my vote will remain. Why? I'm now convinced you're not only a role player but a badd'un.
As I was scanning through, I noticed you posting in response to Renata:
In which case, would Renata and the gang like to specific what I'm responsible for.
"and the gang?" A verbal slip there, I think. Gang implies some kind of organized group. Yet how could Renata have been part of such a group? And how could you have known?
Split questioned the legality of YLC knowing Renata was a resurrectionist in post #522 or so. pevergreen did confirm that no rules had been broken and that reveals within a game faction group were legal until post #582. Yet you had her fingered as part of a "gang" much earlier.....Would you care to name your source sir? I know we'd enjoy giving you company in your jail cell....
It is possible that you didn't day kill her or finger her for the person who did -- I'll grant that -- but between your squirming and the above point that I just put together, I have no problem watching your avatar go down to a little Inishmoran justice.
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 13:45
I make my vote tally as the day ends, so I'll confirm it as the round ends :wink:.
Vote: Thermal Mercury
There's a pretty strong case against you.
Vote: Thermal Mercury
There's a pretty strong case against you.
And I like how you help contribute with yours. Please post more, and more constructively, if you can - doing so helps us differentiate between bandwagonners, lurkers, and the like.
Posting and voting contributes to the case against me that I'm lurking?
Posting and voting contributes to the case against me that I'm lurking?
No, that you're avioding the WOG - lurkers are part and parcel, it's those who avoid WOG that are suspicious. Help with the contributing part please, if you will.
I found it funny too, however even I have more sense than to kill the first person who gets on my case, (call it WIFOM or whatever you will).
I'm seeing it as a setup, that failed, but I'm sure your not.
I'm seeing it as pretty much a null tell. If it were a game with no post-death activity, then you'd have had a strong motive to get rid of me and any non-you mafia a pretty decent motive to let me live, in order to pursue the case. Since there is post-death activity, the incentives shift back towards neutral. You might kill me if you saw my accusations as enough of a threat, knowing I'd have much less influence dead (not to mention the lack of vote), but the frame also becomes much more viable, since I'd still be around to whine about you.
In short: I'm ignoring it.
Wait what I'm dead? Noooooooooo.
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 15:16
pevergreen was both pleased and displeased.
"Finally, a clear choice. Thermal Mercury, you are to be escorted to prison and remain there until this crisis is over. Also, you'll have to be dressed in this lovely new prison uniform."
Thermal looked at it and sighed.
"Yellow. Why'd it have to be yellow? I hate yellow. They always make us yellow!"
With that, and a shake of his head, Thermal Mercury was sent to prison.
pevergreen was not done, however.
"slashandburn"
S&B stepped forward.
"You have not made a single vote over the last 5 days. This is unacceptable, and I'm sorry, but I must have you killed. I hope you understand."
"Before I do this, however, I have some others to warn. The following people are not participating enough. I do not require much, a single vote in three out of four days.
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
GeneralHankerchief
Greyblades
Joooray
Secura
Subotan
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yarapolk."
"You all have lodged only one or two votes in 4 valid phases. Please contribute more. Or you may face my displeasure."
"For slashandburn? I condemn him to a life of dusting my house. I just can't get around to it often enough, you know?"
Tally
11 - Thermal Mercury
3 - Zack
2 - YLC
1 - Diamondeye, Joooray, Warman, Yarapolk
Alive: 27/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Centurion1
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
Diamondeye
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Seamus
Secura
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
TinCow
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Zack
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched: 2/39
autolycus
Thermal Mercury
Killed: 8/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Renata
Wrath of God: 2/39
Lord Winter
slashandburn
It is now Night 5. Night will end in 23 hours, 44 minutes. (Midnight Saturday 23nd April 2010 GMT +10)
Hey. That's not very nice pever. I was about to vote and you close the round.
Thoughts, Zack is lurking almost as hard as I am. And that my friends is some major lurkage.
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 15:26
Hey. That's not very nice pever. I was about to vote and you close the round.
Buddy!
The votes close at midnight our time. The phases have somehow managed to end at midnight every single time. Thats...like over a week of the phase ending at the same time. If you were going to vote at quarter past...
Pretty easy for you to remember. Midnight is an easy deadline. :laugh4:
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-23-2010, 16:24
So Thermal got lynched and Reneta is dead now? Perhaps Thermal was the killer?
Pever, you still have me as alive. Could you correct that, please? Thanks.
atheotes
04-23-2010, 16:40
So Thermal got lynched and Reneta is dead now? Perhaps Thermal was the killer?
:inquisitive:
So Thermal got lynched and Reneta is dead now? Perhaps Thermal was the killer?
Interesting theory. Please explain more.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-23-2010, 16:54
Interesting theory. Please explain more.
Just a observation I made. Each time someone died, is it me or did it seem like Thermal tried shifting the blame to someone else or tried to say how he was set up or some poor excuse. Maybe he was the killer, maybe he wasn't. Just a thought.
Buddy!
The votes close at midnight our time. The phases have somehow managed to end at midnight every single time. Thats...like over a week of the phase ending at the same time. If you were going to vote at quarter past...
Pretty easy for you to remember. Midnight is an easy deadline. :laugh4:
Touché.
pevergreen
04-23-2010, 17:27
Pever, you still have me as alive. Could you correct that, please? Thanks.
Thats what I get for quoting the wrong post. :laugh4:
Serious-ey stuff in spoilers.
On a more serious note, I'm getting the general feeling that the players coming in are having some trouble adapting. Some from TWC, where its just a worse off version of the org, some from mafiascum, some from CivFanatics, where its more roleplay-ey.
It brought my mind back to a very good thread we had stickied for a while. I don't think I am alone in thinking that this thread produced what are basically the guidelines of today.
It may be three years old, but the Code is still in effect in my mind.
Gameroom Mafia Player’s Code of Ethics
I will endeavor to adhere to the basic rules for good posting/participation expected of all members of the .org community.
I will not use screenshots relating to a mafia game during that mafia game. This includes my posts within the thread, my private messages, my individual e-mails or any other means of communication.
I will not use an alternate .org identity for any aspect of a mafia game and will restrict myself to the identity used in signing up for the game for all communication relating to that game. Note: multiple identities is against org policy and may draw unfavorable attention from moderators and administrators.
If I have additional abilities as a moderator or administrator on the forum, I will endeavor not to use those abilities as part of my participation in a mafia game, save where asked to do so by the game’s host in response to a valid moderator-related question or function.
I will not quote from a private message or from a chat log in the main thread of a mafia game and will not do so in private messages, e-mails, or other communications with anyone who was not originally a party to that message or chat unless permitted to do so by the game host.
I will endeavor to abide by the rules and conditions laid out by a host for her or his own game at all times.
If I believe that I have accidentally contravened this code, broken one of the rules laid out by the host, or believe myself to be on the receiving end of another who has done so, I will report my behavior to the host, attaching any relevant support information, and await the decision of that game host before continuing play.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?78536-A-Proposed-Code-of-Ethics-for-Gameroom-Mafia-Players
Obviously, not everything is fully up to date, and some is not in line with the rules for this game, but its a good thing.
Reading through it again, something that comes out to me is a post by Redleg, a member I respect for a few reasons.
A cut and past from the game thread it was posted in
(speaking of as exhibited by [b]Sasaki in the game)
I detest that type of interference because it cheapens the effort of the players who are still alive and attempting to actually solve the puzzle. So excuse me if childish stupidity [annoys me] to the point of extreme anger, but it will every time - that is my nature to the core.
In the game if your alive - cheat, lie, steal, borrow, beg, convince, tell the truth, make up fake PM's and roles to save your rear-end.
If your dead contribute to lynching who you believe is responsible for getting you lynched or murdered. Make cryptic posts about suspects concerning little stories like the one that Major Dump posted after his death. But when you have been lynched or murdered - you should not conduct yourself in a manner to ruin the game for those still playing[]. That [] ruins the game.
It may be going on deaf ears, or the idea is already there and I'm just not seeing it, but here it is and I'll leave you guys to it and get back to hosting.
Thoughts, Zack is lurking almost as hard as I am. And that my friends is some major lurkage.
Because the 10 players on WOG notice aren't lurking at all, right?
Because the 10 players on WOG notice aren't lurking at all, right?
It isn't necessarily lurking, at least on my part; I'm keeping up with the thread as best I can and posting... I've just not voted a fair bit because for the most part, I've thought the lynches were poor and we're not allowed No Lynch/Abstain.
Diamondeye
04-23-2010, 23:48
Name what I am doing wrong, and that qoute is sarcasm BTW (don't skim) and the second part is simply reading his statement wrong, as if he said "That was what happens when you mess with me". I'm sorry if I get enraged at watching the town's resurrector die.
You should stop talking down to people; I didn't skim the thread, I read it all the way through. I know the quote was sarcasm. And Thermal's post, you can think what you want but I think him innocent.
I hate people talking down to me. If you wanted to convince me not to vote for you, you should try actually appealing to me instead of acting all insulted.
My vote'll be back on you tomorrow unless your mason partners can clear you.
Captain Blackadder
04-24-2010, 01:32
Because the 10 players on WOG notice aren't lurking at all, right?
That is because in my mind at least true people in wog territory are not likely to be mafia as it is cutting it a bit fine at this point and any of them that suddenly come back they will be lynched. What is more supicious are the people who are staying just above that line doing enough not to be wogged but not really adding anything to the discussion.
Myrddraal
04-24-2010, 11:01
@Secura, someone is going to get lynched every round, so if you don't like the lynch candidates, suggest an alternative. Only the dead have the luxury of not voting.
pevergreen
04-24-2010, 15:25
Possibly made the biggest mistake in the last year. Good times.
Writeup starting now
pevergreen
04-24-2010, 16:47
It all crashed, blah blah blah as did my post here after the board came back up.
Will post wirteup when i wake up, dayphase will be a longer one.
pevergreen
04-25-2010, 03:11
Two things before the night writeup happens. I missed an action last night (Night 4). I am terribly sorry to all those involved, so this is taking place before the current actions.
TinCow was sitting in his favourite chair, drinking his favourite wine. After a long hard day of discussion, it was nice to relax.
He sighed contently but fell out of his chair when he heard a voice.
"And how do you feel about that?"
No...no...it couldn't be...he made sure they couldn't get in! Please, he begged, let it be anything but a shrink!
A man walked into the living room holding a notepad and looking around. "TinCow my friend, how does this all make you feel?"
TinCow couldn't take it anymore, he took out his hidden revovler and shot himself.
Alright, that concludes what I missed. Due to my mistake, I'm making this public: TinCow was targeted in a kill tonight that would have gone through, so either way TC would be dead. Due to my mistake, the submitted night action can't take place, so I am awarding a make up action to take place tomorrow night.
On to the Night 5 writeup:
A man was standing on the beach, simply looking out at the sea. He waited all night, but no one approached him, as everyone that went past avoided a lone man drinking on the beach.
YLC was restless... it was another night with no sleep. He simply gave up and decided to go do some chores. At least the house would be clean, and maybe he would get tired, he thought to himself. But after scrubbing all his walls with ammonia, he needed to step out for some fresh air. But he wasn't getting tired, he was getting hungry. So he grabbed his propane grill and decided to throw some steaks and shrimp over the clean-burning flame. Standing outside in just his boxer briefs, he was too focused on the glow of the fire to hear the footsteps of the two men in dark suits and fedoras walking up the drive behind him. Just as the steaks and the shrimp were ready, the men in suits opened fire, pumping YLC's body full of hot lead. YLC gripped the edge of the grill and with the last of his strength, he shoved one of the steaks in his mouth, and savored the sweet flavor in his final moments. One of the two men fired at the propane tank, and the explosion killed YLC instantly and burned his body to a crisp. They nodded to each other, and without saying a word, they left the scene in opposite directions.
Diamondeye was curious as a child, the two psychologists noted. He would always be climbing trees and turning over rocks, and trying new foods. He was also quite vulnerable to suggestion, to a fault it seemed. So they brought him into their office and they placed several objects in front of him, with instructions. The first was a bran muffin, with a note that said "taste me", and so Diamondeye picked it up and took a nibble. The next was a plush pokemon toy, with a note that said "squeeze me" and Diamondeye picked it up and squeezed it. The two psychologists took careful notes. The next was a slice of swiss cheese, which said "smell me" and Diamondeye picked it up and he sniffed it. The two psychologists just observed quietly. Next, there was an assortment of razorblades on the table, with a note that said "eat me". Without any hesitation, Diamondeye grabbed the razors and stuffed them down his throat. He didn't get to the next item on the table, which was a pile of jelly beans, and a note that said "shave with me". It was too late before the psychologists realized they had switched the signs by mistake.
A man was in the middle of the dance floor, talking and busting some moves. The person he was talking to became his friend over the course of the night and they left the venue with a handshake and these parting words,
"Oi, I'll see you round bru!"
Centurion1 has been WoG'd due to breaking of game rules. (Revealing in private)
Alive: 23/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Seamus
Secura
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
Zack
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched: 2/39
autolycus
Thermal Mercury
Killed: 10/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Renata
TinCow
Diamondeye
YLC
Wrath of God: 3/39
Lord Winter
slashandburn
Centurion1
It is now Day 6. Day will end in 35 hours, 49 minutes. (Midnight Monday 26th April 2010 GMT +10)
Beefy187
04-25-2010, 03:23
Vote: Niklas
Dead Vote: Secura
I'd like to bring attention to the fact that, the following people have been working with me - Secura, Renata, TinCow, and Methos. We have been systematically targeted and killed, and the only living member left of us is Secura. Have fun in mafia scum :daisy:, you town traitor.
And Pever, my action should have gone through, or did you just conveniently ignore my PM? Sorry, not the best of moods.
You're going to be eating a significant amount of humble pie when it transpires that isn't true, YLC... count on it, treacle.
You're going to be eating a significant amount of humble pie when it transpires that isn't true, YLC... count on it, treacle.
Prove me wrong then - how is it that we are, literally, systematically killed off, one by one, on consecutive nights, and they GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO KILL US. This isn't random, someone HAD to know who we are, and you are the only one left. Unless you have a better explanation, like who actually did it, I am not calling this crusade off.
Prove me wrong then - how is it that we are, literally, systematically killed off, one by one, on consecutive nights, and they GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO KILL US. This isn't random, someone HAD to know who we are, and you are the only one left. Unless you have a better explanation, like who actually did it, I am not calling this crusade off.
How can I prove you wrong, YLC? I can't point you even halfway in the right direction because I know **** all about the game even now.
The only way to prove my innocence is when the game concludes, whereby the mafia will be able to tell you the truth, namely that I had nothing to do with everyone's deaths. I'll gracefully accept the lynch now, and in turn you apologise when the truth comes out at the end of the game?
Does that sound fair?
vote: Secura
Captain Blackadder
04-25-2010, 04:56
:yes:
Can't you even give a little more info as to why you think this?
How can I prove you wrong, YLC? I can't point you even halfway in the right direction because I know **** all about the game even now.
The only way to prove my innocence is when the game concludes, whereby the mafia will be able to tell you the truth, namely that I had nothing to do with everyone's deaths. I'll gracefully accept the lynch now, and in turn you apologise when the truth comes out at the end of the game?
Does that sound fair?
vote: Secura
It's not fair and don't vote for yourself. None of this was fair, and I am not going to apologize - this is a game, and I am playing. Part of playing it is following my nose, and it lead me right to you. You are the only loose end Secura, and whether you acknowledge it or not, 4 pro-town power role deaths in a row does nothing to prove your innocence, nor does claiming I'm going to eat "humble pie".
I'll gracefully accept the lynch now, and in turn you apologise when the truth comes out at the end of the game?
Does that sound fair?
I want the apology in public, by the way, right here in-thread.
I counted you as allies, YLC, even after being turned back to vanilla and being informed by the host that I wasn't supposed to collaborate with you all if I wasn't aligned with you.
You see, I may be a great many things, but I'm not a backstabber... and if that makes me a poor mafia player, than so be it; I would rather keep my moral integrity than screw someone over to win a game.
I want the apology in public, by the way, right here in-thread.
I counted you as allies, YLC, even after being turned back to vanilla and being informed by the host that I wasn't supposed to collaborate with you all if I wasn't aligned with you.
You see, I may be a great many things, but I'm not a backstabber... and if that makes me a poor mafia player, than so be it; I would rather keep my moral integrity than screw someone over to win a game.
...alright fine. You're not guilty - plea to a person rather then a player. I'll hold you to that. My efforts have just been systematically destroyed in my attempt to help the town. No one has come foward to publicly denounce me as anything, so thus it is the mafia's doing. Apparently though I had made someone, very, very paraniod.
To bad they think death is going to stop me.
Good, I'm glad you'll hold me to that; maybe when the game's over and the truth is out, I can laugh about these accusations rather than being offended.
As it stands currently, I don't have any suspects to vote for; what has Charmander done, Thermal?
pevergreen
04-25-2010, 05:21
Seems to be fixed
Beefy187
04-25-2010, 05:36
Ok, deleting.
pevergreen
04-25-2010, 05:43
Rules for the dead:
You are free to continue discussing as you would normally in and outside of the thread, with the condition that you do not reveal anything private you may have known while alive. (So no post death public reveals of role, or even private reveals)
You may not vote for anyone, even as a joke. If I see a dead person make a vote, even if in massive font with silly faces, I will 'ask' that person to refrain from posting in the thread again.
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 05:53
Due to the unsporting nature of the reveal, if it was a reveal, I have a sporting solution to the problem.
I have rolled a six-sided die and I will wait that many rounds before I vote for Charmander. That gives him some time to explain himself if the illegal reveal was fake, and still guarantees I'm voting for him later on.
In the meantime I will meet any vote he places on someone with great suspicion. He can direct my attention to certain players, but I probably won't vote for whoever he votes for. That's the best I can do.
In the meantime, Greyblades, more activity please. (I'm not going to participate in a round with no discussion and 15 votes on Charmander, sorry.)
Vote: Greyblades
Well I looked at the rules and only interpreted it as not being allowed to reveal role pm's, eternally sorry.
Message to players:
Don't listen to my posts, they speak rubbish. :bow: I'm not just saying that because of what pevergreen said, I was playing dirty tactics in the first place.
I worked all day today and I'm tired and don't feel like doing anything. I doubt I will be on again before the phase ends so I'll Vote:Abstain. Aww, I r hate u so much right now pever.
Vote:Warman
pevergreen
04-25-2010, 05:59
Message to players:
Don't listen to my posts, they speak rubbish. :bow: I'm not just saying that because of what pevergreen said, I was playing dirty tactics in the first place.
I'll confirm this by saying there are no spanish roles in this game.
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 06:01
Well I looked at the rules and only interpreted it as not being allowed to reveal role pm's, eternally sorry.
Message to players:
Don't listen to my posts, they speak rubbish. :bow: I'm not just saying that because of what pevergreen said, I was playing dirty tactics in the first place.
If you were townie then there's some reason you said what you said. Then again, if you weren't, there's also a reason why you said what you said.
Something is up with Charmander, I can't un-learn that. The only thing I have is a strategy to hedge my bet. If you're a dirty scum outing another dirty scum, then scum needs to die. If you're outing a pro-town role, this gives him some time. If you're a townie outing a scum, then scum needs to die. This delayed vote is the best solution I have to your move.
If you were townie then there's some reason you said what you said. Then again, if you weren't, there's also a reason why you said what you said.
Something is up with Charmander, I can't un-learn that. The only thing I have is a strategy to hedge my bet. If you're a dirty scum outing another dirty scum, then scum needs to die. If you're outing a pro-town role, this gives him some time. If you're a townie outing a scum, then scum needs to die. This delayed vote is the best solution I have to your move.
As Pever says, no spanish, i said Charmander was spanish, proves i was lying.
You just can't trust me :grin:
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 06:08
I'll confirm this by saying there are no spanish roles in this game.
See that still feels like a counter-balance to what Thermal did. Just because there's no Spanish roles, that might still be a move where he's lying so he's not actually revealing anything. He's admitted it was a dirty tactic, but the desperate nature of the move tells me that there's something up with him.
Even if he were scum, why Charmander? Why risk being WOG'ed over a basic townie? So naturally I'm curious as to who or what he is. The cat (ugh) is out of the bag here.
BTW keep that cat away from me. I'm going to assume whoever gives me that (censored) cat is mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 06:10
You just can't trust me :grin:
Overcompensation. Here, you're feeling guilty about the reveal so you're trying to make it right.
Guys, I can't un-learn stuff, so stop trying. Leave it alone. I want to be able to keep playing the game, so PLEASE, Thermal/pevergreen, kindly drop this so I can focus, thanks.
pever, obviously, if you have hosting stuff to say feel free to interject, but otherwise let me think independently, and I'll play as fairly as I can under the circumstances. :bow:
Captain Blackadder
04-25-2010, 06:19
Due to the unsporting nature of the reveal, if it was a reveal, I have a sporting solution to the problem.
I have rolled a six-sided die and I will wait that many rounds before I vote for Charmander. That gives him some time to explain himself if the illegal reveal was fake, and still guarantees I'm voting for him later on.
In the meantime I will meet any vote he places on someone with great suspicion. He can direct my attention to certain players, but I probably won't vote for whoever he votes for. That's the best I can do.
In the meantime, Greyblades, more activity please. (I'm not going to participate in a round with no discussion and 15 votes on Charmander, sorry.)
Vote: Greyblades
Indeed we should at the very least allow him to come and explain himself before voting him since a huge bandwagon at this stage could be irreversable if he comes on late with some evidence that clears him.
GeneralHankerchief
04-25-2010, 07:29
Vote: Yaropolk
*passes out on the bar from alcohol/lack of sleep*
GeneralHankerchief
04-25-2010, 07:29
*un-passes out*
Unvote: Yaropolk
Vote: Blackadder*
*passes out again*
I think Zack got off too easy yesterday.
vote: Zack
Diamondeye
04-25-2010, 10:20
*blargh*
I is dead.
Greyblades
04-25-2010, 12:46
In the meantime, Greyblades, more activity please. (I'm not going to participate in a round with no discussion and 15 votes on Charmander, sorry.)
Vote: Greyblades
Hmm? Oh right sorry my attention has been drifting, 'been playing mass effect 2.
[...] 4 pro-town power role deaths in a row [...]
Care to explain how you knew about each others status as power roles without breaking the game rules? I know you hinted to it before, but with pever wanting to limit pro-town movements it seems weird you could be allied to each other the way it seems you were.
If you can't explain, because you are dead, maybe Secura can fill us in a bit. With her being recruited (apparently by you, YLC) and unrecruited, I'm pretty sure she isn't mafia, don't think they would be recruitable. Though I'm not sure about your weird cult and it's objectives.
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 13:40
Hmm? Oh right sorry my attention has been drifting, 'been playing mass effect 2.
Why should I move my vote off of you now? You're not paying attention and it seems like you only vote to avoid the WOG. How am I supposed to rely on you in the endgame? If you were totally limp I could write you off as a WOG candidate, but you're not.
:daisy: psychiatrists! I was perfectly sane, thank-you-very-much. Isn't it your job to prevent suicides, rather than cause them? Whoever you are, I'm going to get your license revoked.:furious3:
:daisy: psychiatrists! I was perfectly sane, thank-you-very-much. Isn't it your job to prevent suicides, rather than cause them? Whoever you are, I'm going to get your license revoked.:furious3:
There was indeed something weird about your kill write-up, it seems you were as allergic to psychiatrists as Atpg was to cats. And it was yet another role that hadn't appeared before. We seem to have quite a few people/items that are able to solo kill.
Any thoughts about that within what you can reveal after being dead?
There was indeed something weird about your kill write-up, it seems you were as allergic to psychiatrists as Atpg was to cats. And it was yet another role that hadn't appeared before. We seem to have quite a few people/items that are able to solo kill.
Any thoughts about that within what you can reveal after being dead?
Yeah, find and lynch the psychiatrist. He's bad JuJu.
What the :daisy: happened last night? I see a ton of edited posts, were there a bunch of rulebreaks or what?
pevergreen
04-25-2010, 15:03
Basically yes
Captain Blackadder
04-25-2010, 15:32
What the :daisy: happened last night? I see a ton of edited posts, were there a bunch of rulebreaks or what?
Essentially TM revealed that we should lynch a certain player in the game unfortuntly he was not suppossed to do that so a few of us know someone who it seems by all accounts should be lynched post haste but in the interest of sportsman ship I shall wait for him to turn up before saying or doing anything more.
Greyblades
04-25-2010, 15:49
Why should I move my vote off of you now? You're not paying attention and it seems like you only vote to avoid the WOG. How am I supposed to rely on you in the endgame? If you were totally limp I could write you off as a WOG candidate, but you're not.
:shrugs: These games just arent gripping me like the others, theyre too hectic after afew days of having to trawl through pages and pages of stuff I missed because I was asleep or at college its starting to feel like a chore. Doesnt help that in this game I didnt even know it had started till afew days after so I had an extra set of pages to sift through.
Reenk Roink
04-25-2010, 16:56
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
Essentially TM revealed that we should lynch a certain player in the game unfortuntly he was not suppossed to do that so a few of us know someone who it seems by all accounts should be lynched post haste but in the interest of sportsman ship I shall wait for him to turn up before saying or doing anything more.
That is unfortunate. I'm glad I didn't see the original content then.
Askthepizzaguy
04-25-2010, 18:06
:shrugs: These games just arent gripping me like the others, theyre too hectic after afew days of having to trawl through pages and pages of stuff I missed because I was asleep or at college its starting to feel like a chore. Doesnt help that in this game I didnt even know it had started till afew days after so I had an extra set of pages to sift through.
That's fine, but that actually makes things worse. Can I count on you to settle in and pay attention in the endgame or not? Or do I have to vote for you because you're potential scum, or being left alive because you won't be a threat to the mafia in the end?
Basically what I'm saying is, if you're lurking scum, stop it or you're dead. If you're a townie, I need you to focus or just drop out. I'll give you a round to convince me you're a changed man.
unvote, vote: Zack
Greyblades
04-25-2010, 18:18
Well I was forced into gear in the star wars game and I've found my fluroxetine so hopefuly my mood should improve as well as my attendance.
Even after Secura's cry for....whatever that's called, I don't trust her one bit. She knew about me and not too long after she was .... "felt up" by the priest, all of a sudden several of us get taken out. One of them being Renata, the resurrector. I look forward to seeing this game end, as this game will definitely form lasting thoughts on my trust in Secura's words.
Even after Secura's cry for....whatever that's called, I don't trust her one bit. She knew about me and not too long after she was .... "felt up" by the priest, all of a sudden several of us get taken out. One of them being Renata, the resurrector. I look forward to seeing this game end, as this game will definitely form lasting thoughts on my trust in Secura's words.
I welcome it, Methos.
Does that mean you'll apologise for character defamation also, when the truth comes out?
I'd also like to point out that it seems both you and YLC have forgotten someone who was invited early to your group and ceased posting in the QuickTopic after a while; if you're adamant on the possibility of a leak, then look no futher than Niklas.
Go look at the QuickTopic Methos, or I can simply post the relevant information here: Niklas' last post was #72 at 01:57 PM ET on the 21st of April. He only posted a total of three times, deleting one post and offering very little in the others beyond "this person could be a good recruit" and "don't recruit anyone resurrected". Since then, Renata, TinCow and YLC have all died.
I'll stack my chips with that, to be honest... I'd like to propose that whomsoever is in possession of the kitty currently passes it onto Niklas this evening. The results of that will be indicative of his guilt or innocence. Much better than the lynch for the moment.
I have no objections to receiving said cat. I like cats. :bow:
Crazed Rabbit
04-25-2010, 21:22
I have no idea what's going on so I'm voting for the first person in the alive list to avoid getting WoG'd;
vote: A very Super Market
CR
Winston Hughes
04-25-2010, 21:33
vote: Beefy
If I had a reason, I'd tell you.
And, yes, I am voting purely to avoid being wogged. Although I grow more baffled with each passing day, I figure that a baffled and random-voting townie is better than a wogged townie. If you disagree, then say so, and I might just oblige by shutting up altogether.
Beefy187
04-25-2010, 23:06
vote: Beefy
If I had a reason, I'd tell you.
And, yes, I am voting purely to avoid being wogged. Although I grow more baffled with each passing day, I figure that a baffled and random-voting townie is better than a wogged townie. If you disagree, then say so, and I might just oblige by shutting up altogether.
Agreed. And I have every reason to be voted for... My performance has been shocking so far...
Splitpersonality
04-25-2010, 23:17
Ugh, feeling sick, had a bad night and might be punished so expect my already small post count to be lower (nless I post from school...).
Vote: Warman still quiet imo.
what has Charmander done, Thermal?
He breathed fire on me... :cry:
I'd also like to point out that it seems both you and YLC have forgotten someone who was invited early to your group and ceased posting in the QuickTopic after a while; if you're adamant on the possibility of a leak, then look no futher than Niklas.
Go look at the QuickTopic Methos, or I can simply post the relevant information here: Niklas' last post was #72 at 01:57 PM ET on the 21st of April. He only posted a total of three times, deleting one post and offering very little in the others beyond "this person could be a good recruit" and "don't recruit anyone resurrected". Since then, Renata, TinCow and YLC have all died.
I'll stack my chips with that, to be honest... I'd like to propose that whomsoever is in possession of the kitty currently passes it onto Niklas this evening. The results of that will be indicative of his guilt or innocence. Much better than the lynch for the moment.
Niklas is an Aussie... he can't betray the group because his goal are the same as the group's. You, on the other hand, knew the identities of all the Aussies and your goals have not been the same as ours for several turns now.
I recommend a lynch of Secura.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-25-2010, 23:51
The Wanax should never be ignored.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit.
Secura may have a point bout Niklas. Passing him a cat may not be the answer though.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-25-2010, 23:52
Sorry, forgot to bold.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
Niklas is an Aussie... he can't betray the group because his goal are the same as the group's.
Right, and you know that for certain how, TinCow? You have no evidence that he's still aligned to the Australians, think about it.
Recall that I announced my own conversion back to town in the QuickTopic; Niklas ceased posting outright and everyone died thereafter. Hmmmmmmm.
Askthepizzaguy
04-26-2010, 00:10
Agreed. And I have every reason to be voted for... My performance has been shocking so far...
That's just like you, Beefy, to say that. You poo-poo your own performance every game.
Right, and you know that for certain how, TinCow? You have no evidence that he's still aligned to the Australians, think about it.
Recall that I announced my own conversion back to town in the QuickTopic; Niklas ceased posting outright and everyone died thereafter. Hmmmmmmm.
So, you're innocent because you admitted that you were converted away from the Aussies, and Niklas is guilty because he hasn't posted in the QT for 3 days? :inquisitive:
So, you're innocent because you admitted that you were converted away from the Aussies, and Niklas is guilty because he hasn't posted in the QT for 3 days? :inquisitive:
I'm innocent because I didn't do it; that is a fact, whether you like it or you do not.
I will admit that it's too convenient to be mere coincidence, which means there was a leak; Niklas ceased posting in the QuickTopic, everyone starts dying. There's no evidence that he is still aligned to the Australians, and he could well have been converted to the cult that was apparantly opposite to ours, something that you don't seem to have considered:
I think for balance reasons the game is set up that way - we recruiting masons to the recruiting cult, and the town can't tell us apart.
And while I lack any proof that I haven't been recruited myself, I do have a PM from the host (sent to myself and Centurion) on the 23rd, two days after Niklas vanished and our group started dying:
Secura: You are town aligned now. Not with the Australians.
I was sent that message as a friendly notice from the host regarding a post I made in the QuickTopic:
Since I'm still actively working with you despite being converted back to vanilla...
After receiving the PM from pevergreen, I posted in the QuickTopic:
Well, re-recruit me and you'll see for yourself! :P
I wanted to rejoin the Australians, for all the good it will do me to keep saying it. I wanted to be part of the group rather than a face in the crowd. -_-'
Askthepizzaguy
04-26-2010, 00:29
So, you're innocent because you admitted that you were converted away from the Aussies, and Niklas is guilty because he hasn't posted in the QT for 3 days? :inquisitive:
I believe her, TinCow.
I've learned something about Secura over the past few games... she's not keen on betrayal, and she's not cutthroat as mafia. She might be mafia, but what happened to the Aussies is not in character for her. As evidence I point you to Shadow Fort, where she risked her head over a friend who wasn't even on her team, the Haiku mafia where she wasn't even keen to win the game because she felt bad, and other games where she's demonstrated what I might consider excessive sensitivity. Others might call it "com-pass-shun"
She's played and won games as town and mafia, so she's not a bad player, but she does have a certain style, and this is not her style. To a fault, she won't do what you're suggesting.
Otherwise I have been right and properly swindled, and I am looking forward to the day.
I've learned something about Secura over the past few games... she's not keen on betrayal, and she's not cutthroat as mafia. She might be mafia, but what happened to the Aussies is not in character for her. As evidence I point you to Shadow Fort, where she risked her head over a friend who wasn't even on her team, the Haiku mafia where she wasn't even keen to win the game because she felt bad, and other games where she's demonstrated what I might consider excessive sensitivity. Others might call it "com-pass-shun"
Ack, you have a darn good read on my playing style. O_O"
I believe her, TinCow.
I've learned something about Secura over the past few games... she's not keen on betrayal, and she's not cutthroat as mafia. She might be mafia, but what happened to the Aussies is not in character for her. As evidence I point you to Shadow Fort, where she risked her head over a friend who wasn't even on her team, the Haiku mafia where she wasn't even keen to win the game because she felt bad, and other games where she's demonstrated what I might consider excessive sensitivity. Others might call it "com-pass-shun"
She's played and won games as town and mafia, so she's not a bad player, but she does have a certain style, and this is not her style. To a fault, she won't do what you're suggesting.
Otherwise I have been right and properly swindled, and I am looking forward to the day.
If that's the case, why aren't you voting for Niklas?
Askthepizzaguy
04-26-2010, 03:02
Because there is an advantage to giving the cat to Niklas, and seeing what happens. In my estimation the number of murders should go down whether he's guilty (blocked) or innocent (frame), or he'll be proved innocent.
He's not going anywhere, and while I'm looking for other examples of scum, tossing the cat in his direction gives real tangible benefits in all circumstances.
Reenk Roink
04-26-2010, 03:08
Unvote: Crazed Rabbit
Vote: Yaropolk
Skimmed the last pages and my god if Yaropolk has been exposed of any anti-town role than holy crap vote for him! Regardless of the legality of such a move, mistakes were made and it's over, we shouldn't just hold back on voting for someone who has a better case on them than anyone else. FoS: all players for not voting Yaropolk.
Because there is an advantage to giving the cat to Niklas, and seeing what happens. In my estimation the number of murders should go down whether he's guilty (blocked) or innocent (frame), or he'll be proved innocent.
He's not going anywhere, and while I'm looking for other examples of scum, tossing the cat in his direction gives real tangible benefits in all circumstances.
And yet you can't control the location of the cat. We have two potential scum here: Secura and Niklas, and you're going to put the resolution of both in the hands of some random player who may or may not (1) even be active and (2) agree with your analysis? :no:
Don't take chances, lynch the suspects. Relying on the 'cat' is WIFOM and likely to result in both of them getting away scott free. One is almost certainly guilty, so lynch them both and be done with it.
White_eyes:D
04-26-2010, 03:44
Vote: Yaropolk I am going with Reenk on this one....:juggle:
I do not like to take advantage of sportmanship issues, so I won't vote for Yaro yet. Dunno happened, but I agree that he should have the chance to speak for himself. Not sure about Niklas either, but it seems rather like infighting and so I'm not sure the town has actually a big stake in that. :shrug:
Well I'm going with Seamus on this one. Vote: Crazed Rabbit.
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 13:12
Unvote: Crazed Rabbit
Vote: Yaropolk
Skimmed the last pages and my god if Yaropolk has been exposed of any anti-town role than holy crap vote for him! Regardless of the legality of such a move, mistakes were made and it's over, we shouldn't just hold back on voting for someone who has a better case on them than anyone else. FoS: all players for not voting Yaropolk.
Eh?
You're pointing the finger of suspicion at everybody? And for reasons that, in my ignorance, I cannot seem to fathom...
This isn't the first time your behaviour has struck me as suspect, so I'm gonna unvote; vote: Reenk Roink, at least until I get an explanation of what's going on here.
Soo I was looking for this Chamander who ATPG was refering to who had been exposed, saw Yasei's edits and figured it was about a particular player.
Reenk seems to think it is Yaropolk.
Joooray seems to believe this too.
If the cat is out of the sack so to speak, why hold back. TinCow removed himself from a game because of such knowledge which is the only workable solution. Ignoring or pretending stuff didn't happen doesn't work because you will always have the unwanted knowledge lurking in the back of you mind which is a distraction.
Act on it and move on.
There are many moderators in these games and I suspect we all can see the posts (not the post content) that are deleted. At least I can see deleted posts outside the gameroom. If there is deleted posts accompanying host warnings and "I am sorry" posts - they become double suspicious.
This is a case of designing to fit the environment and not trying to cram the environment into a specific design. You just can't depend on players not messing up. It always happen.
I am not host bashing BTW... Just factor in private reveals and public displays of losing one's dentures.
I can't play dumb. Playing with all factulties in "on mode" is the only enjoyable way of playing.
Joooray seems to believe this too.
Personally I was only referring to Reenk there, I have no idea what happened and who did what.
Apart from that I support the point you make.
pevergreen
04-26-2010, 14:24
You can see my reply on the subjects. 'khaan went through and edited as he saw fit, told me after.
The town will play as it does, Yara may die for it, but if he does, the game will return to normal.
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 14:36
What I don't understand is Reenk acting as if he knows Yaropolk is the name removed from the edited posts, despite having only "scanned the last pages".
Also, I'm puzzled as to how it is that voting for anyone other than Yaro deserves the FoS, given that Reenk himself voted for Crazed Rabbit earlier in the day.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-26-2010, 14:37
Ugh, feeling sick, had a bad night and might be punished so expect my already small post count to be lower (nless I post from school...).
Vote: Warman still quiet imo.
I was off the comp for 2 days due to crap load of HW, give me a little break :laugh:
pevergreen
04-26-2010, 14:38
'khaan actually missed a mention or two of Yarapolk from the quotes, so if you actually read the posts, you can tell.
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 15:06
'khaan actually missed a mention or two of Yarapolk from the quotes, so if you actually read the posts, you can tell.
Firstly, I know that the pair of you have a certain... attachment, but given your role as host here, I think you should allow Reenk to answer for himself.
Secondly, clearly I'm not the most perceptive reader, but having reviewed all of the posts since the morning update, I still can't find anything that makes it blindingly obvious that Yaropolk is the player in question. Indeed, Reenk himself did not seem to realise it when he cast his original vote against Crazed Rabbit, and only came to that conclusion after 'scanning' those pages later on.
Hence, I'm puzzled as to how he can justify pointing the FoS at everyone else. Because in the absence of any such justification, and with a generalised FoS putting nobody under pressure, it looks to me like a rather scummy move.
pevergreen
04-26-2010, 15:14
Firstly, I know that the pair of you have a certain... attachment, but given your role as host here, I think you should allow Reenk to answer for himself.
Apologies, and that post I thought of either never existed or has dissapeared.
I do keep my love and my hosting life apart though. :wink:
pevergreen
04-26-2010, 15:21
Zack had been chosen to be the next to be "thrown" into "prison". With the conflict nearing a week in length, prison was actually looking rather nice to a few of the townspeople. Zack, certainly had no desire to waste a single minute outside.
"Hahah! Safety! Oh well folks, I'll see what remains of you out on the other side!"
Tally
3 - Zack
2 - Yarapolk, Crazed Rabbit, Warman
1 - AVSM, Captain Blackadder, Niklas, Secura
If the following people don't vote next day phase, they will be WoG'd
Greyblades
Subotan
Yarapolk
Alive: 22/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Seamus
Secura
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Yaseikhaan
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Askthepizzaguy
Lynched: 3/39
autolycus
Thermal Mercury
Zack
Killed: 10/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Renata
TinCow
Diamondeye
YLC
Wrath of God: 3/39
Lord Winter
slashandburn
Centurion1
It is now Night 6. Night will end in 23 hours, 39 minutes. (Midnight Monday 26th April 2010 GMT +10)
Myrddraal
04-26-2010, 15:23
Killed 10, lynched 3, alive 22. This is going to be tough.
Greyblades
04-26-2010, 17:54
Well I did say that I would be more active so... um... Go team.
Reenk Roink
04-26-2010, 18:31
Secondly, clearly I'm not the most perceptive reader, but having reviewed all of the posts since the morning update, I still can't find anything that makes it blindingly obvious that Yaropolk is the player in question. Indeed, Reenk himself did not seem to realise it when he cast his original vote against Crazed Rabbit, and only came to that conclusion after 'scanning' those pages later on.
Hence, I'm puzzled as to how he can justify pointing the FoS at everyone else. Because in the absence of any such justification, and with a generalised FoS putting nobody under pressure, it looks to me like a rather scummy move.
Maybe there is something to you saying you aren't the most perceptive reader as I thought it was pretty clear that Yaropolk was the guy in question that Blackadder alluded to, especially made explicit due to GH's vote and then unvote. Granted, I skimmed and then formed a conclusion as I usually do and that has led me to being mistaken before but it is confirmed here with Yaropolk being the one we want.
As you seem to be vested in Yaropolk's defense and take great offense to being FoS'd (even as a group), I think you're the man I want after Yaropolk. MAJOR FOS: WH + retaliation.
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 19:19
You didn't just say "the way I'm reading it, Yaropolk is the one everybody's talking about" - you actually cast the FoS against everybody for not voting against him, as if it was blatantly obvious he was the one. And you say you got that from nothing other than GH's commentless vote... :inquisitive:
I didn't know whether you just guessed, or if you had some other reason for making what was, at best, an assumption based on the most limited evidence. But it's strange that you didn't mention that that tiny detail was your only source when you threw down your all-encompassing FoS.
On that subject, I can assure you that what you mistakenly see as 'offence' is nothing of the sort. It's merely experience telling me that the guy who tries to set himself up as the townie par excellence is often a villain.
And, with regards to your 'saving Yaropolk' comment, it strikes me that the buddies of a known villain are much more likely to try to get on his bandwagon, aiming to put distance between them, than to do anything that might look like defending him.
Of course, I'm unsurprised that you're looking to turn suspicions on me once I called you out on a pointless and self-serving FoS. After all, my actions can easily be spun as an attempt to divert a late bandwagon on Yaro.
But the question remains: if it was so blindingly obvious that Yaro was the badguy mentioned in those edited posts, then why did you fail to vote against him in the first place?
Yaropolk
04-26-2010, 20:12
I'm away on vacation, reading the thread on the blackberry every once in a while. RR - I have no clue what you're even accusing me of. I went back and read the last few pages and apparently TM revealed something, which was later edited out. Can you tell me what that was since everyone already knows?
My apologies to the host, I'll promptly lodge my vote in 24 hours.
Reenk Roink
04-26-2010, 21:17
Yaro, TM apparently was frustrated about this game (I know this first hand - check what he sent me on my profile) and apparently revealed something post mortem that damned someone, strongly suggested to be you (despite WH not "seeing" it) and later all but confirmed.
Given that you seem completely aloof from the game though and WH's scumminess, I'm willing to second guess it for a bit. It could be TM just being pissed. Who/what are you?
You didn't just say "the way I'm reading it, Yaropolk is the one everybody's talking about" - you actually cast the FoS against everybody for not voting against him, as if it was blatantly obvious he was the one. And you say you got that from nothing other than GH's commentless vote... :inquisitive:
So? :shrug:
I didn't know whether you just guessed, or if you had some other reason for making what was, at best, an assumption based on the most limited evidence. But it's strange that you didn't mention that that tiny detail was your only source when you threw down your all-encompassing FoS.
Why?
On that subject, I can assure you that what you mistakenly see as 'offence' is nothing of the sort. It's merely experience telling me that the guy who tries to set himself up as the townie par excellence is often a villain.
Cool story.
And, with regards to your 'saving Yaropolk' comment, it strikes me that the buddies of a known villain are much more likely to try to get on his bandwagon, aiming to put distance between them, than to do anything that might look like defending him.
But the question remains: if it was so blindingly obvious that Yaro was the badguy mentioned in those edited posts, then why did you fail to vote against him in the first place?
Various reasons.
Of course, I'm unsurprised that you're looking to turn suspicions on me once I called you out on a pointless and self-serving FoS. After all, my actions can easily be spun as an attempt to divert a late bandwagon on Yaro.
Yup, this is partly what I'm thinking at the moment, thanks for saving me from typing it. The main thing though, is that you are exactly guilty of what you are trying to ascribe to me, i.e. that you are trying to make a case on someone and act like Mr. Town which is a stark change in behavior from your earlier and much less aggressive play. Thanks for coming out though.
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 22:25
Hang on...
So now you're suggesting that Yaropolk may not be guilty, whilst trying to set me up for the next lynch instead?
:laugh4:
Various reasons.
...is no kind of answer.
So?
Why?
If you're going to point the FoS at everyone in general and nobody in particular - for doing something which you yourself did only a few hours earlier - then you ought to at least be able and prepared to justify that.
Instead, what I'm seeing is you looking for various ways to avoid engaging with the matter at hand (for example, by resorting to the cheapest of sarcastic come-backs: "Cool story").
Oh, and I've never really been set on making a case against you - it was just a matter of pushing to see what response I got from someone who did something I found suspicious. Right now, though, I'd say that you're in danger of making a pretty good case against yourself.
I mean, you could have just admitted that you made a mistake with what was a rather silly FoS. I reckon most townies would have done exactly that, rather than attempting to defend it in so evasive a manner.
Reenk Roink
04-26-2010, 22:32
I've already responded to everything you asked, usually I'm not so courteous.
A lot of the stuff you said was basically irrelevant stuff about your experience and play and what not. I thought I was being nice. :sweatdrop:
As for me FoSing everyone it still stands, I'm unaware why so many people would ignore the Yaropolk accusation. I don't see the mistake in it?
I don't think I'm in any danger. Good drama though. :2thumbsup:
Winston Hughes
04-26-2010, 22:47
Ah, switching to the old expert-humouring-the-newbie routine now, are we? :inquisitive:
I've already responded to everything you asked
Well, it's true that "Various reasons" was a response... Not much of an answer, though.
Could you explain what those reasons were?
usually I'm not so courteous.
So why are you acting any different now, then?
I'm unaware why so many people would ignore the Yaropolk accusation.
I would hazard a guess that a fair few of them, like me, didn't even realise that Yaropolk was the one mentioned.
Reenk Roink
04-26-2010, 22:57
Ah, switching to the old expert-humouring-the-newbie routine now, are we? :inquisitive:
What?
Well, it's true that "Various reasons" was a response... Not much of an answer, though.
Could you explain what those reasons were?
Was thinking CR when I first logged into the thread, and when I made that vote I didn't read through the thread that much because I wanted to vote and leave for the round (I remember YLC the most then). Came back to the thread and you know the rest.
So why are you acting any different now, then?
Various reasons. :juggle2:
It's about that stage in the game where I should get more involved. Plus I'm being nice. ~:pat: Why are you acting differently by the way?
I would hazard a guess that a fair few of them, like me, didn't even realise that Yaropolk was the one mentioned.
OK, well I think that's too convenient of an excuse.
By the way, you said earlier that this wasn't the first time my behavior struck you as suspect. Now since you seem to be saying that you aren't really into making a case against me, I am kinda wondering why that is, and what those other suspicious things were.
Greyblades
04-26-2010, 23:02
Um... I'm already confused. whats this about a reveal?
Crazed Rabbit
04-26-2010, 23:08
That's enough out of you, Winston.
Finger of Delirium: Winston Hughes
CR
So... yeah... either Secura or Niklas is scum, likely Secura. You people seem to be forgetting that. I recommend that you pressure them both with votes tomorrow.
:laugh4:
The end of the game's going to be major egg on your face, TC.
Myrddraal
04-26-2010, 23:36
I understand where everyone is coming from with the sportsmanship issue here, but with the current record of 10 kills per 3 lynches, we don't have lynches to waste, and a good lynch now could save kill later, and grant us more time. What's done is done, but if you start making allowances to the mafia, where do you stop? How many townies have to die before it's ok to off the mafia.
Why does nobody think of the townies!?!? :bigcry:
Seamus Fermanagh
04-27-2010, 00:35
I understand where everyone is coming from with the sportsmanship issue here, but with the current record of 10 kills per 3 lynches, we don't have lynches to waste, and a good lynch now could save kill later, and grant us more time. What's done is done, but if you start making allowances to the mafia, where do you stop? How many townies have to die before it's ok to off the mafia.
Why does nobody think of the townies!?!? :bigcry:
Good point about the math. Unless some of the dead'uns were killers for other factions, we do not have many days left.
Suspicions:
Secura:
Niklas:
It seems likely, based on what was said above, that someone infiltrated and then starting mopping up the aussie/mason team. Secura is under suspicion for not having been priested back to normal townie, but priested to evil betrayer. Niklas for being perky in the QT the masons had set up and then dropping into quiet mode. Tincow, weren't you in there too?
Reenk:
Winston:
Bit of a urination match here. Reenk is playing with Winston to solicit infor/cause him to squirm. Winston is replying as though aggrieved thereby.
My gut says that we'll need to remove one from each set and soon. But which? Time to ponder and listen.
It seems likely, based on what was said above, that someone infiltrated and then starting mopping up the aussie/mason team. Secura is under suspicion for not having been priested back to normal townie, but priested to evil betrayer. Niklas for being perky in the QT the masons had set up and then dropping into quiet mode. Tincow, weren't you in there too?
Since I am dead and you are alive, I believe the rules allow you to better answer your own question than I can.
atheotes
04-27-2010, 01:32
Since I am dead and you are alive, I believe the rules allow you to better answer your own question than I can.
Lots to catch up... Most of the discussion seems to be around the Yaropolk reveal and the Mason infiltration seems to have been pushed into the background because of that. Yet to read the Reenk-Winston conversation.
Something I just realised, by the way; if I'm supposed to have given away the identities of the Australians to some other faction, should you not be asking pevergreen to WOG me?
Revealing identities in private is forbidden, and I was almost WOG'd for doing so in our QuickTopic (revealed a townie identity to the masons)... I would assume that doing so again would mean instant WOG for repeated rule-breaking. If you think I've been doing this, appeal for a WOG, do not ask for a lynch to be wasted.
Something I just realised, by the way; if I'm supposed to have given away the identities of the Australians to some other faction, should you not be asking pevergreen to WOG me?
Revealing identities in private is forbidden, and I was almost WOG'd for doing so in our QuickTopic (revealed a townie identity to the masons)... I would assume that doing so again would mean instant WOG for repeated rule-breaking. If you think I've been doing this, appeal for a WOG, do not ask for a lynch to be wasted.
Those rules does probably not apply to Mafia. We do not know the full extent of what you can do and can't do according to your role description. Just saying...
Winston Hughes
04-27-2010, 10:25
That's enough out of you, Winston.
Sorry. I just got bored with being completely in the dark about everything, and tried to liven things up a bit. :embarassed:
I'll try to tone it down a bit from now on.
Bit of a urination match here. Reenk is playing with Winston to solicit infor/cause him to squirm. Winston is replying as though aggrieved thereby.
Did I really sound aggrieved? If anything, I'd say I was enjoying the urination match rather too much. I really couldn't care less if it made me a suspect.
Scienter
04-27-2010, 12:11
TinCow was sitting in his favourite chair, drinking his favourite wine. After a long hard day of discussion, it was nice to relax.
He sighed contently but fell out of his chair when he heard a voice.
"And how do you feel about that?"
No...no...it couldn't be...he made sure they couldn't get in! Please, he begged, let it be anything but a shrink!
A man walked into the living room holding a notepad and looking around. "TinCow my friend, how does this all make you feel?"
TinCow couldn't take it anymore, he took out his hidden revovler and shot himself.
Ok, so TinCow was a Scientologist? Does that mean he can recruit people and then take all their money?
pevergreen
04-27-2010, 14:08
Ok, so TinCow was a Scientologist?
I'm so sorry, but I could never put a role in this game made of so much evil. It would just be imbalanced.
Greyblades
04-27-2010, 14:32
:laugh4:
pevergreen
04-27-2010, 15:07
Yaseikhaan was out walking his poodle, enjoying the fresh air while she did her business on the lawn of some big shot. "That's right Peanut, show mister money-bags what we think of him. Good girl." He heard the sound of three sets of footsteps behind him. "Just what do you think you're doing?" asked the men in dark suits and fedoras. "That's private property. Are you gonna pick that up?" Yaseikhaan nodded and brought out a plastic baggie. "Oh no mister, no plastic bags. Pick it up with your hands." So yaseikhaan picked up the mess with his bare hands. "Well are you going to carry it around or are you gonna get rid of it?" Yaseikhaan looked at them in confusion, and saw that they were all pointing guns at him. His eyes widened when they told him to get rid of it. He gulped and got rid of it, just as they had instructed. It was not pleasant. "I hope it tasted good" one man said in a gruff voice. "Hope you enjoy your dessert" said the man, as they shot Yaseikhaan full of hot lead.
One of the men had a headache, and complained about it. "Aren't you going to see a shrink about that?" asked the man with the gruff voice. "He's the one who gave me the headache" said his partner. "He keeps bringing a monkey to the office and it won't stop playing the cymbals." His partner looked at him oddly, and just shook his head.
Seamus had just finished his last cup of tea for the day. A man burst in with a rather incomplete set of bagpipes. "Seamus my friend, I need you for my bagpipes! A femur or two for the blowing part...mmm"
Shortly after that, Askthepizzaguy was about to get into bed. He was very tired, he had been busy for quite a while now, not to mention the whole exhausting 'being brought back from the dead' thing. He was rather annoyed when a man burst into his bedroom, holding a pair of bagpipes with fresh additions.
"ATPG, your face shall provide a lovely expandable bag! Mwhahahaha!"
Alive: 19/39
A Very Super Market
atheotes
Beefy187
Captain Blackadder
Crazed Rabbit
Csargo
GeneralHankercheif
Greyblades
Joooray
Niklas
Psychonaut
Secura
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
Subotan
Warman
White_eyes:D
Yaropolk
Winston Hughes
Reenk Roink
Lynched: 3/39
autolycus
Thermal Mercury
Zack
Killed: 13/39
Myrddraal
Khazaar
Chaotix (lynched)
Sasaki Kojiro
Scienter
Sigurd
Methos
Renata
TinCow
Diamondeye
YLC
Yaseikhaan
Askthepizzaguy
Seamus
Wrath of God: 3/39
Lord Winter
slashandburn
Centurion1
It is now Day 7. Day will end in 23 hours, 42 minutes. (Midnight Wednesday 28th April 2010 GMT +10)[/QUOTE]
Askthepizzaguy
04-27-2010, 15:15
I'm so popular. At least it wasn't that (expletive) cat this time.
Niklas, it would be delightful if you would join me in the afterlife.
FoS: Niklas
Yaropolk must reveal or die this round. And probably die either way.
Death Wish: Yaropolk
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-27-2010, 15:17
3 dead? Holy poopie!
:(
Askthepizzaguy
04-27-2010, 15:24
3 dead? Holy poopie!
:(
Succinctly sublime, yet richly informative.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-27-2010, 15:25
Cashews and Milk ATPG :)?
It seems I received no cat last night, how disappointing. Afterlife seems like an interesting place to be, but I'll get there eventually regardless. So instead of voting myself, I will vote: Warman, his response to the kills seems contrived to me.
Greyblades
04-27-2010, 15:47
I'm tempted to follow that reasoning, but seeing as it is warman he might just be acting that way for giggles.
Askthepizzaguy
04-27-2010, 15:48
I have even less objection to that lynch than you might suspect, and you might suspect very little. :wink:
Winston Hughes
04-27-2010, 15:55
vote: Yaropolk
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-27-2010, 16:00
It seems I received no cat last night, how disappointing. Afterlife seems like an interesting place to be, but I'll get there eventually regardless. So instead of voting myself, I will vote: Warman, his response to the kills seems contrived to me.
What way?I am just shocked at the 3 that was killed.
I'm tempted to follow that reasoning, but seeing as it is warman he might just be acting that way for giggles.
Yes, I am a strange person, even in other threads :yes:.
I have even less objection to that lynch than you might suspect, and you might suspect very little. :wink:
:wink:. I am not the killer. Besides, if I was, I be acting a hell of a lot better then I am now.
autolycus
04-27-2010, 16:02
Dear Me, it doesn't seem like you people out there are handling things well at all! At least I'm safe behind bars. I don't like the looks of Yaropolk, personally.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
04-27-2010, 16:11
Neither do I.
Vote:Yaropolk
Askthepizzaguy
04-27-2010, 16:17
:wink:. I am not the killer. Besides, if I was, I be acting a hell of a lot better then I am now.
If you're townie, then I dare mooo to do better than you are now. Some of us dead would rather not be.
If Sith doesn't want to use the force, at least use the reasoning, and the vote. Do something with it, so us have-nots feel better.
atheotes
04-27-2010, 16:57
Vote: Secura
Myrddraal
04-27-2010, 17:09
Much as I dislike people relying on "I'm really trustworthy, therefore I can't be mafia" I do think it rings true in Secura's case. An eye should be kept on her, but I don't think shes a good lynch by any stretch of the imagination.
So why are you voting Secura atheotes? What's your reasoning?
It seems I received no cat last night, how disappointing.
Ah, I should not have been so hasty. I did have a visit by Wee Sean, charming little creature. Anyone who'd like a visit?
atheotes
04-27-2010, 18:24
Much as I dislike people relying on "I'm really trustworthy, therefore I can't be mafia" I do think it rings true in Secura's case. An eye should be kept on her, but I don't think shes a good lynch by any stretch of the imagination.
So why are you voting Secura atheotes? What's your reasoning?
Isnt she the prime suspect in getting the mason group eliminated?
Greyblades
04-27-2010, 18:35
Mason group?
atheotes
04-27-2010, 18:49
Mason group?
Whatever YLC claimed.
Seamus Fermanagh
04-27-2010, 19:01
Sheesh. At least it could have been for a set of REAL pipes and not those mangy Scot "knock-offs."
Greyblades
04-27-2010, 19:21
Gah, if I take too long to decide I'll be wogged but if I vote too quickly I'll most likely get lynched like in the sith game.
Whatever YLC claimed.
The Australians were a mason group, yes. Their method of recruitment functioned as both that and as investigation; if the Aussies were unable to recruit someone, it means they were not town-aligned, according to our QuickTopic.
I began the game as a vanilla townie, joined the masons on the first night and remained so until two nights later (thereabouts), where an English priest (Centurion1) converted me back to town, allegedly upon the suggestion of "a little birdie" and because "he wanted the town to win, of course". I have been vanilla since then, though I did request re-recruitment as stated earlier in-thread.
If you believe that I'm scum, than you are stating you believe the mafia are capable of recruitment, correct? I'm not certain that's been shown in thread and it's definitely incorrect, but fair enough, opinion entitled.
If not that, then you believe that I am still town-aligned but broke the rules by revealing everything I knew to the mafia... again, incorrect, but fair enough. If that was the case though, I should be WOG'd by the host for revealing information in private, as I almost was for telling the mason group about the priest being town-aligned. If that's the general concensus for the town, then request a WOG and don't waste a lynch.
atheotes
04-27-2010, 20:24
The Australians were a mason group, yes. Their method of recruitment functioned as both that and as investigation; if the Aussies were unable to recruit someone, it means they were not town-aligned, according to our QuickTopic.
I began the game as a vanilla townie, joined the masons on the first night and remained so until two nights later (thereabouts), where an English priest (Centurion1) converted me back to town, allegedly upon the suggestion of "a little birdie" and because "he wanted the town to win, of course". I have been vanilla since then, though I did request re-recruitment as stated earlier in-thread.
If you believe that I'm scum, than you are stating you believe the mafia are capable of recruitment, correct? I'm not certain that's been shown in thread and it's definitely incorrect, but fair enough, opinion entitled.
If not that, then you believe that I am still town-aligned but broke the rules by revealing everything I knew to the mafia... again, incorrect, but fair enough. If that was the case though, I should be WOG'd by the host for revealing information in private, as I almost was for telling the mason group about the priest being town-aligned. If that's the general concensus for the town, then request a WOG and don't waste a lynch.
you could have been recruited by mafia. you dont have to reveal anything....you could just say kill x, y and z. that is not breaking rules.
If the Aussies were unable to recruit someone, it means they were not town-aligned, according to our QuickTopic.
As I understood it, the only bar on recruitment was the mafia team. Independent roles could still be recruited, and would presumably return to their original goal if they were subsequently 'de-recruited' by the Priest. That is why you are the prime suspect: your proof of townie-ness ended when you got de-recruited, which just happened to coincide with the beginning of the slaughter.
Then the town can lynch me and you can be prepared to be proven incorrect when the game concludes. :bow:
Myrddraal
04-27-2010, 21:52
Gah, if I take too long to decide I'll be wogged but if I vote too quickly I'll most likely get lynched like in the sith game.
:inquisitive:
Aren't you a townie? You sound more interested in saving your own skin than finding the mafia!
Greyblades
04-27-2010, 22:12
Gah! Here we go again! I'm going to get lynched by someone looking too deeply into my wording just like in the star wars game!:hide:
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