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Askthepizzaguy

07-29-2010, 00:36

Askthepizzaguy Mafia
17 players

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Game set-up:

3 Mafia
14 Town

RULES/Deviation from vanilla games:

Each player begins the game with 100 credits.
In order to vote, you must place a bet that a certain player is guilty and must be lynched. ("wager")
You're allowed to wager between 1 credit and all your remaining credits.
Whoever has the most total credits wagered against them at the end of the round is lynched. (Think of each credit as one "vote")
If the person lynched is guilty, those credits are returned to the players who voted for that person.
If the person you wager money on is innocent, you lose those credits.
If your candidate you wagered on is not lynched, you lose those credits.
No Lynch and Abstain are not allowed. (You must wager 1 credit per round, or you lose automatically)
There are no mafia roles other than standard mafia.
The mafia are collectively allowed to murder once per night. It costs them nothing to do so.
There are no townie roles other than standard townie, except:
Each townie is allowed to, at night, spend 30 credits defending themselves from murder, or 40 credits defending someone else from murder.
This means defensive actions are possible, albeit extremely expensive.
You are not allowed to transfer credits to anyone.
You are allowed to add credits to your existing wager.
You are allowed to remove credits from your existing wager.
You're allowed to remove your wager altogether and place a new bet on someone else.

oh, one more thing:

If you are ever reduced to zero credits remaining, at any time, Askthepizzaguy bursts into the room and shoots you with his tommy gun.

Each vote must be placed carefully, and the amount of credits wagered must be thought about very carefully.
This makes for some unusual voting dynamics, and different scumtells than usual. People placing small wagers might be thought of as scummy. People who make sure their wagers come out on top might be thought of as scummy. Players who aim for that happy middle ground might be thought of as scummy.... who knows? Scumbags might try to spare themselves at the last minute by adding a lot to their wager. Townies might try to override that at the last minute, too. If this happens to be an innocent being lynched, with high wagers placed against that player, the town can be collectively devastated and unable to defeat the mafia. If the mafia starts off with 300 collective "votes" and the town starts off with 1400 collective "votes" then the town should be able to win, or they will be the ones who shot themselves in the foot. All that needs to happen is the right suspects need to die, and there needs to be enough being wagered to out-bet the mafia if they try to spare themselves.

Obviously the clock will be very important. :laugh4: And I will be merciless with the clock. The game will be very challenging, for both the town and the mafia.

Wager X credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you begin your wager.

Raise Y credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you add credits to your wager, which includes the first wager. (X+Y is your total. You may continue to raise, remove, or fold if you wish.)

Reduce Z credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you remove credits from your wager. (X+Y-Z is your total. You may raise again, or remove, or fold if you wish.)

Fold: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you REMOVE ALL CREDITS from your wager. Think of it as an "unvote".
You may place a new wager on anyone.

You may not place wagers on two candidates at once. You must fold your first wager to start a new wager.

Game will not start until the first week of August, or whenever I have moderator approval. (August 4-7th?)

Sign-ups can begin now though.

Sign-ups: (17/17)

Cultured Drizzt Fan
Secura
Double A
Sasaki Kojiro
Greyblades
Crazed Rabbit
Beskar
ArpeggiateTHIS
Romanic
Diana Abnoba
Splitpersonality
Skooma Addict
Seon
Pinman
Johnhughthom
civplayah
Jolt

RESERVE PLAYERS:

Death is yonder
landlubber
Nightbringer

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Askthepizzaguy Mafia. Play high stakes with your life....

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-29-2010, 00:40

If it starts about august 7th I should be back. If that's the case, then IN

Secura

07-29-2010, 00:42

I wager one cheese-and-tomato pizza that Secura will play this game.

In fact, so certain am I that I will throw in a garlic bread... and a bottle of coke.

:laugh4:

Double A

07-29-2010, 00:43

Fanta doesn't taste good around here...

IN!

Sasaki Kojiro

07-29-2010, 00:44

In.

Greyblades

07-29-2010, 00:59

Sure I've been getting tired of my hiatus anyway. In
Those who have shown enthusiastic interest in the GAY: GAY?

Crazed Rabbit

07-29-2010, 00:59

In please.

CR

Secura

07-29-2010, 01:01

GAY?

Gameroom Assembly Yard, affectionately known as the G.A.Y. :P

I can't help but feel it was chosen purposefully... :P

Double A

07-29-2010, 01:41

Moderators? Playing a joke? Come now, Secura, don't be foolish!

Beskar

07-29-2010, 02:03

There are a few GAY veterans on the Org.

Askthepizzaguy

07-29-2010, 02:09

Sure I've been getting tired of my hiatus anyway. In
Those who have shown enthusiastic interest in the GAY: GAY?

Shown interest in this game in the thread I posted in the Gameroom Assembly Yard (or: GAY)

edit: whoops, Secura beat me to it. Secura knows what the GAY is all about. :clown:

Secura

07-29-2010, 02:12

Secura knows what the GAY is all about. :clown:

Proud of it as well!

Also, I'm amazed at how you come up with all these ideas for games... it's like, some guys have a little black book of all the women that they've ever been intimate with, but you have one with all the random ideas you've had to push the very boundaries of mafia to the extreme. :P

Askthepizzaguy

07-29-2010, 02:26

Proud of it as well!

Also, I'm amazed at how you come up with all these ideas for games... it's like, some guys have a little black book of all the women that they've ever been intimate with, but you have one with all the random ideas you've had to push the very boundaries of mafia to the extreme. :P

I can have two books! :bigcry:

One is just much larger than the other.

Guess which one... :evilgrin:

The mafia book. :shame:

Actually, given my personality, the intimacy book being larger would be the real mark of shame. Which is kind of disturbing. :sweatdrop:

Romanic

07-29-2010, 06:10

Confirmed.

Splitpersonality

07-29-2010, 08:59

Confirmitron,

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-29-2010, 10:51

*Knock at the door*

ITTSSS THE PIZZZAA GUYYYYYYY

*Come In and partayyy*

Death is yonder

07-29-2010, 15:48

Please put me down as a replacement :bow:

Seon

07-29-2010, 18:16

I'll be in this, why not?

Skooma Addict

07-29-2010, 18:21

I am in.

Pinman

07-29-2010, 21:47

I'll be IN.

Diana Abnoba

07-29-2010, 21:57

Confirmed IN

(and if Pizza had a little black book, :book: you know it is gone now, right.) :laugh4:

johnhughthom

07-30-2010, 00:06

I believe I make 17.

edit: Gah, no I don't. Damn you Pizza, and your illogical sign up list...

Askthepizzaguy

07-30-2010, 02:24

No word from any of the other reserved players, but I'll give them more time.

civplayah

07-30-2010, 16:24

Wholeheartedly in.

Jolt

07-30-2010, 17:06

I am in for the win.

Askthepizzaguy

07-30-2010, 17:20

Sign-ups closed with 17 players and 1 reserve player.

If you wish to be a reserve player, let me know.

I will open the game after checking with the moderators when I should do so. Probably after the weekend.

ArpeggiateTHIS

07-30-2010, 22:09

*Waits with excitement*.

*Tunes scumdar*

*Activates scumdar*

*Opens can of whoop-ass*

landlubber

07-31-2010, 16:02

Dang it, I missed the sign ups. Put me down as a reserve.

Askthepizzaguy

07-31-2010, 16:22

Dang it, I missed the sign ups. Put me down as a reserve.

Will do!

Askthepizzaguy

08-03-2010, 12:54

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 3rd, 1983.

Day One

Michael wiped the sweat from his brow, as he walked across the hot, freshly paved parking lot to the pizzeria. He was looking forward to a beer and a slice of pepperoni. As soon as he entered the shop, the employees had his pizza ready, and plopped a cold beer onto the counter. The man took his meal to the back of the restaurant, past the "employees only" door, and sat down in the manager's office. Next to his desk was a rather large safe, hidden from view behind a bulletin board. Contained inside the safe was a quarter of a million dollars; precisely the amount the shop had made from pizza sales. Well, not exactly. There was approximately $1,250 in pizza sales, but there was also the house earnings from the high stakes gambling operation running out of the back room of the pizzeria. The cash would be emptied out today, as soon as Sal and Vinnie showed up.

It wasn't even 3:30 in the afternoon yet, and already the back of the restaurant was packed with businessmen, professional gamblers, corrupt government officials, and others with a desire to wager and live dangerously. They all knew the rules; if they won, they won big. If they didn't win, their best bet was to pack up and go home before the Michael found out they were flat broke. Many of these folks had already won and lost entire fortunes at these tables. Some of them were playing just so they could win enough money to pay off their creditors. Most of them owed money to Michael himself. Mikey was always loaning out generous amounts of money for very little interest. As long as that money got spent at his tables, he was a happy man. But he did demand that the principal be paid off, in full, plus the interest, within a given amount of time. And people usually paid. When someone didn't pay on time, Tony, Sal, and Vinnie made sure they understood the meaning of honoring one's agreements. And when that wasn't enough, Michael had his very dear friend Tommy take care of it.

Michael took a look at the guest list. Seventeen, this time. It seemed as though there were a lot of deadbeats gambling in his club today. He wondered if they would be able to win big money and be able to pay him off, or if he would have to introduce them to his very dear friend. He also noticed that among the seventeen guests, three of them were his own employees. Well, they knew the rules, too... If they didn't sucker these deadbeats out of every last dime they had, they would be fired. And Michael would make dead certain they never worked in this town, or any other, ever again.

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Slices remaining: (17/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Johnhughthom
Jolt
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
Splitpersonality

Day One begins as soon as everyone has their Role PM. I will be sending those out now. Round ends Thursday, August 5th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives you slightly over 2 full days to place your wagers. Remember, even if you don't place a wager, you will be charged 1 credit as if you had placed a wager. The house has to make money too, you know.

Askthepizzaguy

08-03-2010, 13:22

Everyone now has their role PM. Begin!

Reminder of the game setup and rules:

Game set-up:

3 Mafia
14 Town

RULES/Deviation from vanilla games:

Each player begins the game with 100 credits.
In order to vote, you must place a bet that a certain player is guilty and must be lynched. ("wager")
You're allowed to wager between 1 credit and all your remaining credits.
Whoever has the most total credits wagered against them at the end of the round is lynched. (Think of each credit as one "vote")
If the person lynched is guilty, those credits are returned to the players who voted for that person.
If the person you wager money on is innocent, you lose those credits.
If your candidate you wagered on is not lynched, you lose those credits.
No Lynch and Abstain are not allowed. (You must wager 1 credit per round, or you lose automatically)
There are no mafia roles other than standard mafia.
The mafia are collectively allowed to murder once per night. It costs them nothing to do so.
There are no townie roles other than standard townie, except:
Each townie is allowed to, at night, spend 30 credits defending themselves from murder, or 40 credits defending someone else from murder.
This means defensive actions are possible, albeit extremely expensive.
You are not allowed to transfer credits to anyone.
You are allowed to add credits to your existing wager.
You are allowed to remove credits from your existing wager.
You're allowed to remove your wager altogether and place a new bet on someone else.

oh, one more thing:

If you are ever reduced to zero credits remaining, at any time, Askthepizzaguy bursts into the room and shoots you with his tommy gun.

Each vote must be placed carefully, and the amount of credits wagered must be thought about very carefully.
This makes for some unusual voting dynamics, and different scumtells than usual. People placing small wagers might be thought of as scummy. People who make sure their wagers come out on top might be thought of as scummy. Players who aim for that happy middle ground might be thought of as scummy.... who knows? Scumbags might try to spare themselves at the last minute by adding a lot to their wager. Townies might try to override that at the last minute, too. If this happens to be an innocent being lynched, with high wagers placed against that player, the town can be collectively devastated and unable to defeat the mafia. If the mafia starts off with 300 collective "votes" and the town starts off with 1400 collective "votes" then the town should be able to win, or they will be the ones who shot themselves in the foot. All that needs to happen is the right suspects need to die, and there needs to be enough being wagered to out-bet the mafia if they try to spare themselves.

Obviously the clock will be very important. :laugh4: And I will be merciless with the clock. The game will be very challenging, for both the town and the mafia.

Ah, almost forgot to post the betting procedure.

Wager X credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you begin your wager.

Raise Y credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you add credits to your wager, which includes the first wager. (X+Y is your total. You may continue to raise, remove, or fold if you wish.)

Reduce Z credits: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you remove credits from your wager. (X+Y-Z is your total. You may raise again, or remove, or fold if you wish.)

Fold: Askthepizzaguy

this is how you REMOVE ALL CREDITS from your wager. Think of it as an "unvote".
You may place a new wager on anyone.

You may not place wagers on two candidates at once. You must fold your first wager to start a new wager.

johnhughthom

08-03-2010, 13:28

Wager 10 credits: Skooma Addict

He got me into his vice and I lost all my money...:shame:

Romanic

08-03-2010, 13:43

I'm betting $500 on 32 Red. Come on!!! One time!!! :smile:

Askthepizzaguy

08-03-2010, 13:43

I just edited in the rules for placing wagers, adding to/reducing wagers, and removing wagers. See post 1 or post 31 for the exact procedure.

Pinman

08-03-2010, 14:22

Wager 10 credits: Romanic, for a post I don't understand.

Romanic

08-03-2010, 14:27

I am playing Roulette in the backroom casino! :laugh4: Now if only the dealer could turn the wheel, I think my luck is turning around. Come on baby 32 Red!

Beskar

08-03-2010, 15:46

Wager 1 credit: Johnhughthom

Continiously being snarky.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-03-2010, 18:05

Wager 100 credits Beskar

DIE SCUM

Seon

08-03-2010, 18:31

Wager 1 on Sasaki

because nobody on his sane mind would do something like that.

Beskar

08-03-2010, 18:36

Sasaki, you know that is a great way to murder yourself, right? :tongue:

Crazed Rabbit

08-03-2010, 18:43

Wager 90 credits: Splitpersonality

I didn't go 100 because I might forget to change it before the deadline.

CR

Sasaki Kojiro

08-03-2010, 18:49

I WENT 100 BECAUSE I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 18:51

Wager 10 credits: Skooma Addict

He got me into his vice and I lost all my money...:shame:

Oh, and who's fault is that? I told you the stuff's heavy.

Anyway, Wager 10 credits: Crazed Rabbit for rambling in my cabbage patch and leaving his little "gifts" behind for me to clean up.

Seon

08-03-2010, 19:01

I WENT 100 BECAUSE I'M NOT AFRAID OF DEATH

Well, DO YOU HAVE AN INDOOR VOICE?

Anyhow, tell me if you are just going to reduce your wager at the last second because if you aren't, I need to change mine.

Jolt

08-03-2010, 19:59

Wager 1 on Sasaki

because nobody on his sane mind would do something like that.

ONLY MAFIA BETS THAT LOW.

Wager 2 credits on Seon

:grin:

Sasaki Kojiro

08-03-2010, 20:02

Sasaki, you know that is a great way to murder yourself, right? :tongue:

ONLY IF YOU'RE INNOCENT

...

fold

WAGER 100 credits: Seon

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-03-2010, 20:51

Wager 10 credits: Secura, the lady in the corner. Send her a nice bottle of wine, too, but not the wine in front of me... :laugh4:

...:embarassed:

Double A

08-03-2010, 21:10

I'd wager all my credits that Roman is joker. But since that's not a good idea, I'll just wager 3 on Skooma

Diana Abnoba

08-03-2010, 22:46

Wager 5 credits: Pinman, because pins sometimes can be very dangerous. :laugh4:

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 23:28

I'd wager all my credits that Roman is joker. But since that's not a good idea, I'll just wager 3 on Skooma

Oh no you didn't...

Beskar

08-03-2010, 23:31

I'll Wager 100 Credits: Atheotes, he is always the mafia!

Double A

08-03-2010, 23:37

Oh no you didn't...

Oh yes I di-id!

Skooma Addict

08-03-2010, 23:49

Oh yes I di-id!
Why I oughtta...*rolls up sleeves in tough-guy fashion*

But I do agree with you, Roman is either having a mild stroke or acting especially peculiar. Then again, far be from me to call someone else a madman. Cheers everyone! ~:cheers:

Secura

08-04-2010, 00:36

Wager 10 credits: Secura

Meh, I'm fine with this.

So fine with it, in fact, that I'll wager 100 credits: Secura.

Fun, fun, fun...

Greyblades

08-04-2010, 02:44

Wager 5 credits: Double A
C'mon, Papa needs a new hubcap.

Romanic

08-04-2010, 04:30

:laugh4:

Crazy people, pushing 100 credits on day 1.

wager 1 credit: Sasaki

Could have been anyone else than Sasaki. I'm not risking my credits on a vote that I will certainly lose.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-04-2010, 04:33

ooh, that could have been a great mafia plan. Come out the gate with huge wagers so that no one wants to waste their credits competing, and then scale it back just enough to lynch an innocent.

Beskar

08-04-2010, 04:34

Actually, since the high wagers will not be using it to pay for defence or defending some one else, makes it more of a case for being mafia.

Romanic

08-04-2010, 04:44

Actually the mafia could be tempted to use small wagers to keep a low profile and a good reserve of credits for later rounds. After all they can kill at night, so why would they come out swinging on day 1?

Jolt

08-04-2010, 04:51

Beskar

08-04-2010, 04:55

Jolt

08-04-2010, 05:00

Not really, the Mafia are purposefully attempting to "look innocent", thus they will attempt to do the obvious non-action, such as massive bets. It would buy them enough "town cred" to last a while, while on the otherhand, the town would be spending nights having protection or not.

But if the Mafia uses most of their credits in these first days, then they'll lose any ability of saving themselves from lynches later on, by not having the points necessary to shift lynches around. Assuming the three Mafia can't each kill one (Making 3 kills per night until one of them is found), as that would be severely unbalanced for the Mafia in a small Mafia game, it would be a stupid mistake they'd make.

But then they'd might do that and trust us not to lynch them. So... Back at square one.

Beskar

08-04-2010, 05:04

But if the Mafia uses most of their credits in these first days, then they'll lose any ability of saving themselves from lynches later on, by not having the points necessary to shift lynches around. Assuming the three Mafia can't each kill one (Making 3 kills per night until one of them is found), as that would be severely unbalanced for the Mafia in a small Mafia game, it would be a stupid mistake they'd make.

But then they'd might do that and trust us not to lynch them. So... Back at square one.

They would only have to do it for one round, then surf the rest of the game. Since trying to be deemed "less scummy" is worth more than the money.

Think of it this way. Who do you remember more - The person who bought the first round of pints, or the one who bought the 3rd or 4th?. It is the first round that makes it count.

Any townie with half a brain cell knows they will use hardly no money, since they will be spending it on other things anyway, only person who benefits are the mafia, as they don't have to spend 30 credits to do a night protection.

Double A

08-04-2010, 05:30

Or we could always wait till day two to start the WIFOMs.

Splitpersonality

08-04-2010, 05:51

Wager 20: Crazed Rabit

Pure omgus

Pinman

08-04-2010, 15:03

Fold: Romanic

Wager 1: Split

Too large a bet.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-04-2010, 16:05

fold

wager 30: split

Scummiest person so far. I'll say why later. Can we get a wager count?

Splitpersonality

08-04-2010, 16:07

Fold

Wager 100: Atheotes

Because I didn't go all in or minimum in?

Secura

08-04-2010, 16:12

Fold: Secura
Wager 5: split

A suicidal vote such as mine was just rude to Pizza; I'll await an early death instead.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-04-2010, 16:30

hmm, I think we need to agree to policy lynch anyone who drops a big wager to save themselves from a lynch. It's just too open to mafia exploitation...we won't win if it takes us 2 lynches to get every mafioso. So if you're towne DON'T DO IT.

Askthepizzaguy

08-04-2010, 22:25

Unofficial Tally. Correct if you see any errors.

Splitpersonality: 126 (90, Crazed Rabbit) (1, Pinman) (30, Sasaki) (5, Secura)
atheotes: 100 (100, Split)
Skooma Addict: 13 (10, Jht) (3, Double A)
Crazed Rabbit: 10 (10, Skooma)
Secura: 10 (10, Arpeg)
Pinman: 5 (5, Diana)
Double A: 5 (5, Greyblades)
Sasaki Kojiro: 2 (1, Seon) (1, Romanic)
Seon: 2 (2, Jolt)
JHT: 1 (1, Beskar) [DID NOT FOLD]

DID NOT WAGER: Cultured Drizzt Fan, civplayah

Sasaki Kojiro

08-04-2010, 22:33

hmm nice, when is deadline?

Askthepizzaguy

08-04-2010, 22:34

Round ends Thursday, August 5th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA, or 18+ hours from now.

Splitpersonality

08-04-2010, 22:46

fold

Wager 4: Splitpersonality

Now it's a good even number.

Askthepizzaguy

08-04-2010, 22:47

fold

Wager 4: Splitpersonality

Now it's a good even number.

That's a shame. i really, really wanted to lynch atheotes today.

I encourage anyone who wishes to wager on atheotes to please do so.

civplayah

08-05-2010, 00:14

wager 5: Pinman

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 03:42

Reduce 85 credits: splitpersonality.

Cuz I probably won't check this again before the lynch.

CR

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 07:23

Jolt

08-05-2010, 07:35

fold

hmm, splits at 15, still in the lead, just don't think it's that likely that we pegged a mafioso and got 4 people to vote him and he self voted...

Deadline is close so I suppose I shall decide who to lynch.

hmm, jolt is the scummiest I guess, not a whole lot of content has gone out though.

wager 20: Jolt

Let's have a townie pact and say that no townie should put someone else in front of jolt without giving a thoroughly explained reason. None of this "wager 20 on so and so for jokey reason" leaving us wondering if it was a scumbuddy or just someone not paying attention.

And what is the reason that I am the scummiest? And why so close to the deadline?

Fold

Wager 30 on Sasaki Kojiro

EDIT: And I find it amusing that you are spouting townie pacts left and right, and yet you are the first person to break them all.

Romanic

08-05-2010, 07:56

hmm, jolt is the scummiest I guess, not a whole lot of content has gone out though.

Why is Jolt the scummiest?

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 10:41

fold

hmm, splits at 15, still in the lead, just don't think it's that likely that we pegged a mafioso and got 4 people to vote him and he self voted...

Deadline is close so I suppose I shall decide who to lynch.

hmm, jolt is the scummiest I guess, not a whole lot of content has gone out though.

wager 20: Jolt

Let's have a townie pact and say that no townie should put someone else in front of jolt without giving a thoroughly explained reason. None of this "wager 20 on so and so for jokey reason" leaving us wondering if it was a scumbuddy or just someone not paying attention.

I dislike your posts. I dislike them a lot. And I dislike your pacts. And your flip-flopping.

Can you elaborate on anything you've said?

Either way, I'm breaking your "townie pact" to Fold; Wager 20: Sasaki and your post is the "thoroughly explained reason".

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 14:01

3 hours remain.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 16:24

And what is the reason that I am the scummiest? And why so close to the deadline?

Fold

Wager 30 on Sasaki Kojiro

EDIT: And I find it amusing that you are spouting townie pacts left and right, and yet you are the first person to break them all.

Your wager seemed off to me and I thought maybe your discussion of mafia strategy in this game was coming from a mafia point of view. Stood out more than most people who have just posted a wager.

Do you think split is scum? With the self vote and all? Then my saving him to vote the scummiest person is 100% a good play for town.

hmm, I think we need to agree to policy lynch anyone who drops a big wager to save themselves from a lynch. It's just too open to mafia exploitation...we won't win if it takes us 2 lynches to get every mafioso. So if you're towne DON'T DO IT.

This is the townie pact yeah? Now what pact did I break? I didn't vote to save myself, you just did. And the problem with this setup is that scum can ALMOST ALWAYS vote to save themselves. If we allow people to vote to save themselves, scum will always do it, or else we will have to waste all of our credits putting big wagers on people.

A policy lynch is now required on jolt for the self-saving wager.

Arpeggiate is either scum with Jolt, or town if jolt is town (don't see scum wasting credits like that). You're a bit too angrily defensive of jolt.

My own townie pact prevents me from voting to save myself, so:

fold

cause I don't remember the word for increase

Wager 100 credits: Jolt

I will die if he's town. I suppose this is open to mafia exploitation too--but I think mafia would leave themself with enough credits to live if they could.

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 16:27

increase:

Raise ____ credits

No problem, this works too. Just FYI and stuff (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129734-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-In-Play&p=2530615&viewfull=1#post2530615). :bow:

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 16:29

EDIT: And I find it amusing that you are spouting townie pacts left and right, and yet you are the first person to break them all.

Which pacts did I break? You are lying...

I dislike your posts. I dislike them a lot. And I dislike your pacts. And your flip-flopping.

What do you dislike about them (posts and pacts)? Can you elaborate? You object to me moving my vote around looking for scum?

Either way, I'm breaking your "townie pact" to Fold; Wager 20: Sasaki and your post is the "thoroughly explained reason".

If you say you are breaking the pact, that means you don't think you have a thoroughly explained reason.

Why do you object to someone having to give a good reason for putting the LYNCHING wager on someone? Do you like random votes that lynch someone?

Do you have a theory where split and me are scumbuddies? Cause if I am scum, that would be the only reason to switch out and save him correct? If so, why do you think split is scummy?

Romanic

08-05-2010, 16:43

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/popcorn.gif

15 minutes to go, this will be interesting!

Romanic

08-05-2010, 16:51

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 16:55

fold

wager 1 credit: Jolt

Yes, I am trying to save 1 credit by voting for the guy in the lead. :laugh4:

Sasaki, you're crazy you know.... You could wager around 60 instead of 100, that would still put Jolt in the lead, but you would survive if you're wrong.

The reason he's not doing that is so he doesn't survive if he's wrong.

If Jolt is anything but mafia, Sasaki dies and we, as the town, don't have to deal with someone who voted with 90 credits at the last minute to save themselves.

CR

Jolt

08-05-2010, 16:56

Which pacts did I break? You are lying...

ooh, that could have been a great mafia plan. Come out the gate with huge wagers so that no one wants to waste their credits competing, and then scale it back just enough to lynch an innocent.

This is textbook of what you are doing so far. Besides you post this, half an hour before the round's up.

Wager 100 credits: Jolt

After you posted this "townie pact":

hmm, I think we need to agree to policy lynch anyone who drops a big wager to save themselves from a lynch. It's just too open to mafia exploitation...we won't win if it takes us 2 lynches to get every mafioso. So if you're towne DON'T DO IT.

Besides, your entire argument lies on the fact that I waged 2 credits instead of one and that I'm actually discussing how the Mafia might proceed?

Too many coincidences and too much scummy behaviour.

Add 55 credits on Sasaki Kojiro

I'm certainly not gonna stand here and get lynched, even more so under the arguments you presented. I would suppose that will also make Beskar and any other person who discussed it (including you! :o), my Mafia buddies?

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 16:58

2 minutes.

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 16:59

fold.

Wager 25 credits on Jolt.

Scumtastic.

CR

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 16:59

Sasaki, you're crazy you know.... You could wager around 60 instead of 100, that would still put Jolt in the lead, but you would survive if you're wrong.

But I already explained why we can't have people wagering to save themselves :book:

The mafia will still do it, even with the rule. Because it benefits them, even if they are confirmed mafia afterwards. But if town never does it, than we KNOW that anyone who does it is mafia.

Then there is the chance of the mafioso's buddy saving him. That is why anyone doing the saving has to give a thoroughly explained reason--they at least have to have some plausible sounding bs that we can judge.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 16:59

fold.

Wager 25 credits on Jolt.

Scumtastic.

CR

Unnecessary! Save your credits!

Well you have a decent chance of getting them back anyway I guess. And he could be lurking for a last minute vote.

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 17:00

Reduce 20 credits on Jolt.

CR

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 17:00

Round is over. Writeup commencing.

Crazed Rabbit, your wager change was late. Round ended at 1159.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:01

DOH! I didn't even see jolts 55 credit wager when I said that. But he is still ahead by one isn't he?

edit:I think it's a tie.

Romanic

08-05-2010, 17:03

I think it's Jolt 106, Sasaki 106 ...

:laugh4:

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 17:05

Round is over. Writeup commencing.

Crazed Rabbit, your wager change was late. Round ended at 1159.

Fine by me. Though I still have no idea if Jolt or Sasaki is in the lead. With my extra credits, it should be Jolt right?

CR

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:05

Sorry CR, when I told you to save your credits I hadn't seen that jolt had made that ridiculous post...

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 17:06

According to MY tally, it's Jolt due to your wager. And because that last wager change does not count, as I said I am merciless with the clock. :beam:

Jolt: 126 (100 Sasaki Kojiro) (1, Romanic) (25, Crazed Rabbit)
Sasaki Kojiro: 106 (1, Seon) (85, Jolt) (20, Arpeg)
Splitpersonality: 10 (1, Pinman) (5, Secura) (4: Split)
Skooma Addict: 13 (10, Jht) (3, Double A)
Crazed Rabbit: 10 (10, Skooma)
Pinman: 10 (5, Diana) (5, civplayah)
Double A: 5 (5, Greyblades)
JHT: 1 (1, Beskar) [DID NOT FOLD]

DID NOT WAGER: 1 (Cultured Drizzt Fan)

Please correct any mistakes.

EDIT: Ok I am fixing mistakes. :clown:

Jolt

08-05-2010, 17:09

Bye Sasaki!

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 17:09

Ha! Procrastination wins again!

Though from the votes you've tallied ATPG, wouldn't Sasaki only have 106 votes on him?

CR

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:10

Ha! Procrastination wins again!

Though from the votes you've tallied ATPG, wouldn't Sasaki only have 106 votes on him?

CR

Your change was after the deadline thankfully.

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 17:13

Edit: Derp. Nevermind, wrong thing.

You're right, CR, he only has 106. I made a couple errors.

just let me do my writeup. :clown:

Romanic

08-05-2010, 17:16

Jolt

08-05-2010, 17:19

Besides, he already gave the Mafia a huge help. Killed himself and me in one go while the Mafia kick back and relax. Nice job.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:20

I don't like that aggressive strategy, vote 100 and die if your lynch target was wrong. Sure it may look pro-town to sacrifice yourself like this, but you're also throwing away 100 credits. If the mafia is sitting back with low wagers, they're losing peanuts while we're losing hundreds of credits.

For example, in this case if Jolt is townie, we could end losing 250+ credits while the mafia would lose small (3-10). Considering they will kill once of us each night (another ~90 down), they will fill the gap real quick unless we lynch the right guys.

It's necessary in this case--but you are correct it could be a huge waste of credits, which is exactly why we CAN'T have townies dropping big credits to save themselves. It's a team effort and people who do that are just going to get lynched the next day anyway. I think jolt is smart enough town to realize that...sooo

What's the tie procedure pizza?

Jolt

08-05-2010, 17:22

It's necessary in this case--but you are correct it could be a huge waste of credits, which is exactly why we CAN'T have townies dropping big credits to save themselves. It's a team effort and people who do that are just going to get lynched the next day anyway. I think jolt is smart enough town to realize that...sooo

What's the tie procedure pizza?

It's necessary? You dropped 100 on a townie based on the fact that I was actually discussing what the Mafia could do? I was certainly not gonna die by such stupid argument.

EDIT: Dropped 100 within 30 minutes to deadline. Which, considering you already killed yourself, and therefore are not Mafia, perplexes me even more.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:24

It's necessary? You dropped 100 on a townie based on the fact that I was actually discussing what the Mafia could do? I was certainly not gonna die by such stupid argument.

EDIT: Dropped 100 within 30 minutes to deadline. Which, considering you already killed yourself, and therefore are not Mafia, perplexes me even more.

And yet you dropped 55 right before deadline to save yourself by lynching me, even after the 100 credit wager :idea2:

Jolt

08-05-2010, 17:25

And yet you dropped 55 right before deadline to save yourself by lynching me, even after the 100 credit wager :idea2:

If I'm a townie, why the :daisy: would I be lynched on day 1 just because you wanted to kill someone?

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 17:42

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 3rd, 1983.

End of Day One

Michael watched the betting with great interest. He didn't expect to see such heavy betting so early in the day. The sheer number of bet changes boggled the mind. But he kept careful track, and made corrections with his pencil. By the end of the day, it was time for betting to end. And then, everyone showed their cards. They started with the low bets first, to build the tension.

Michael: Beskar, what do you got?

Beskar: *sheepishly* I got nothing. My highest card is a 10. What a mess. Good thing I didn't bet much.

Greyblades: two, three, three, four, five. Is that a straight?

Michael: No, that's a pair of threes.

Diana Abnoba: I got a pair of fives.

Skooma Addict: MUST.... HAVE.... MORE.... SKOOMA!!! *eats his own cards*

Michael: Okay, I'm not going to tell you again, if you eat your cards, you're disqualified.

Secura: Jacks.

Johnhughthom: Tens and threes!

Jolt: Okay boys, read 'em and weep. I got a full house, aces over ladies. So, Sasaki, let's see your cards.

Crazed Rabbit: Oh boy. Maybe I shouldn't have made this wager. Can I take some of it back?

Michael: No. *raises tommy gun* Leave those chips where they're at, rabbit. :smoking:

Sasaki Kojiro: Oh no... why did I wager all of my chips? I'm going to be broke....

Michael points the gun at Sasaki

Michael: That's a real shame. I liked you, Sasaki. But it seems your luck has just run out.

Jolt: I'll just be taking my chips now...

Sasaki Kojiro: Hey, wait a minute, are aces high or low in this game?

Michael: Both. It's poker.

Sasaki Kojiro: POKER??? I thought we were playing Gin Rummy!

Michael: Gin Rummy has two players. What are you, a maroon?

Sasaki Kojiro: Well in that case I think I have a straight, or a flush. Whichever is better. I have a King, a queen, a jack, an ace, and a ten, all spades. Does a flush beat a full house?

Jolt: WHAT YOU SAY???

Crazed Rabbit: It looks like someone set us up the bomb. :laugh4:

Michael: Royal Straight Flush. That might explain why he bet his life savings. And we have a winner. Collect your chips, Sasaki.

Jolt: But.... but.... this is impossible!

Michael: Shut up, Tony. You just lost me a lot of money. I've had my fill of your incompetence. They're supposed to lose money, NOT the house.

Jolt: I had a full house!

Michael: Yeah? Well does a full house beat a royal straight flush, Tony?

Jolt: ....In Italy it does!

Romanic: No it doesn't, and I should know. Hand over the chips, Valerio.

Michael: This is the last straw Tony.

Jolt: Wait, I still gots some chips left, I can win it back! I can win it back!

*Michael pointed the gun at Tony, and opened fire, filling his body with hot, searing lead, and knocking him out of his chair.*

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Michael: You're fired.

With that, Michael slid the chips back over to the winner, Sasaki. Feeling generous, he also let Romanic and Crazed Rabbit keep their chips. Then, he pocketed the rest. "Cover charge" he muttered. Since Michael was the man with the gun, no one protested the surcharge....

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Tally
Jolt: 126 (100 Sasaki Kojiro) (1, Romanic) (25, Crazed Rabbit)
Sasaki Kojiro: 106 (1, Seon) (85, Jolt) (20, Arpeg)
Skooma Addict: 13 (10, Jht) (3, Double A)
Splitpersonality: 10 (1, Pinman) (5, Secura) (4: Split)
Crazed Rabbit: 10 (10, Skooma)
Pinman: 10 (5, Diana) (5, civplayah)
Double A: 5 (5, Greyblades)
JHT: 1 (1, Beskar) [DID NOT FOLD]

DID NOT WAGER: 1 (Cultured Drizzt Fan)

Slices remaining: (16/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Johnhughthom
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Secura
Seon
Skooma Addict
Splitpersonality

Sleeping with the fishes: (1/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)

NOTICE:

Those who bet on Jolt have their wagers returned to them, and still have 100 credits. Those who did not bet on Jolt have all lost their wagers, or in CDF's case, their 1 credit forced ante.

Night One begins now. Round ends Friday, August 6th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone 24 hours to send in night actions if they so choose.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 17:45

~:pimp:

Crazed Rabbit

08-05-2010, 17:46

AWESOME.

CR

Romanic

08-05-2010, 18:11

:party3:

*sighs* Jolt almost convinced me that he was townie! :laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy

08-05-2010, 18:59

Oh, sorry:

Tie procedure is that those who are involved in the tie (if 2) throw rock, paper, or scissors. Standard for all my games in the past year, methinks. The writeup will show them fighting to the death with knives. The credits will be removed from everyone unless a mafia got stabbed to death, same as usual.

If there are three or more tied, no one gets lynched because I don't reward indecisiveness. That means everyone's credits are lost that round.

Beskar

08-05-2010, 19:53

:beam: Jolt was scum telling everywhere.

Peggie and Seon are obviously his mafia partners.

Skooma Addict

08-05-2010, 19:56

I'm hungry...

Skooma Addict

08-05-2010, 19:57

Who's Peggy?

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 19:59

~:pimp:

Good call.

EDIT: And I'm supposed to be peggie, heh. Don't know what Beskie's talkin' bout though.

Romanic

08-05-2010, 20:02

Good call.

Yes.... and you're next! :smug2:

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 20:07

You didn't answer my questions.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 20:08

Yes.... and you're next! :smug2:

By that reasoning you'd be third in line too; you questioned Sasaki just as I did, only I made more of a fuss about it.

EDIT: And Sasaki, you think I spend ALL day on the org? Most of it, but not all of it.

Beskar

08-05-2010, 20:09

And I'm supposed to be peggie, heh. Don't know what Beskie's talkin' bout though.

Says the guy who jumped in bed with Jolt.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 20:11

Says the guy who jumped in bed with Jolt.

How was I supposed to know that Jolt was the scummy one? Sasaki gave no reason whatsoever for his wager and I took it to be scummy. All I did was call him out on it.

Either way, I was wrong. No harm done though, eh?

Romanic

08-05-2010, 20:15

By that reasoning you'd be third in line too; you questioned Sasaki just as I did, only I made more of a fuss about it.

EDIT: And Sasaki, you think I spend ALL day on the org? Most of it, but not all of it.

I questioned Sasaki? ....hmm, I guess you can call that questioning if you talk about my thoughts on the "do or die" strategy...

But I didn't move my vote to Sasaki when he was trying to lynch a mafiosi, and I didn't say things like that to him:

I dislike your posts. I dislike them a lot. And I dislike your pacts. And your flip-flopping.

No... really, we're not in the same boat. :laugh4:

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 20:22

I questioned Sasaki? ....hmm, I guess you can call that questioning if you talk about my thoughts on the "do or die" strategy...

But I didn't move my vote to Sasaki when he was trying to lynch a mafiosi, and I didn't say things like that to him:

No... really, we're not in the same boat. :laugh4:

Again you refer to Jolt as though we knew he was mafia. Perhaps you did, but that's not the case for everybody else. You were quick to ditch the Sasaki-hunters as soon as you found out that Jolt was actually scummy and you didn't even back up your claims with any coins. I, on the other hand, thought he was our best lead and decided to be upfront in my allegations. More fool me for being direct rather than hiding behind the scenes.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 20:26

You haven't answered my questions.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 20:31

You haven't answered my questions.

Isn't it obvious? You switched your "random" vote twice last round and hadn't even given reasons other than "Jolt is scummy" and "Split seems scummy". You were the first to throw accusations around and the first to try and take control of the wagers with your pacts.

I'm sorry, Sasaki, but I will not have a McCarthy-esque figure injecting panic and limitations into who I wager for.

Romanic

08-05-2010, 20:37

Again you refer to Jolt as though we knew he was mafia. Perhaps you did, but that's not the case for everybody else. You were quick to ditch the Sasaki-hunters as soon as you found out that Jolt was actually scummy and you didn't even back up your claims with any coins. I, on the other hand, thought he was our best lead and decided to be upfront in my allegations. More fool me for being direct rather than hiding behind the scenes.

I was never with the er... Sasaki-Hunters, so I never ditched them. And I voted for Jolt, a whole credit! :laugh4: Okay, it may not be a lot, but at one point it looked like we had a 106-106 tie and my credit could have made a big difference. Stop trying to find excuses to make me look as bad as you, I'm clearly not.

And answer Sasaki's questions, he's been waiting all day! :smash:

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 20:42

ONLY IF YOU'RE INNOCENT

...

fold

WAGER 100 credits: Seon

First fold. Why are you betting all of your credits? It's obvious that you cannot carry this threat through.

ooh, that could have been a great mafia plan. Come out the gate with huge wagers so that no one wants to waste their credits competing, and then scale it back just enough to lynch an innocent.

Isn't that exactly what you've done?

fold

wager 30: split

Scummiest person so far. I'll say why later. Can we get a wager count?

Second change. Not even an explanation: "I'll tell you why I tried lynching him AFTER HE'S DEAD." Scummy as hell.

hmm, I think we need to agree to policy lynch anyone who drops a big wager to save themselves from a lynch. It's just too open to mafia exploitation...we won't win if it takes us 2 lynches to get every mafioso. So if you're towne DON'T DO IT.

Pact number one. I bet you'd do it if you were about to die.

hmm nice, when is deadline?

Checking when the deadline is in case you need to do a last-minute switch?

fold

hmm, splits at 15, still in the lead, just don't think it's that likely that we pegged a mafioso and got 4 people to vote him and he self voted...

Deadline is close so I suppose I shall decide who to lynch.

hmm, jolt is the scummiest I guess, not a whole lot of content has gone out though.

wager 20: Jolt

Let's have a townie pact and say that no townie should put someone else in front of jolt without giving a thoroughly explained reason. None of this "wager 20 on so and so for jokey reason" leaving us wondering if it was a scumbuddy or just someone not paying attention.

This was the killer:
Self-votes are always scummy. I'd have voted split were it not for this.
Why is Jolt the scummiest? Again, a lot of accusation without any evidence.
Yet ANOTHER pact that was just begging to be broken, so I broke it. If he was/is scum, with this he'd have secured that neither of his buddies would be lynched. This pact was basically instilling fear to gain control of the wagers. Any rational townie would stand up to it, and I did.

EDIT: So yeah, remind me why I'm in the spotlight here and not him? I'm the one that has acted rationally throughout the first round, not him. I used the information I had and drew a conclusion, albeit a wrong one and for that I humbly apologise :bow:.

Jolt

08-05-2010, 20:45

Well caught Sasaki.

I tip my hat to you. :bow:

Skooma Addict

08-05-2010, 21:25

1. First fold. Why are you betting all of your credits? It's obvious that you cannot carry this threat through.

2. Isn't that exactly what you've done?

3. Second change. Not even an explanation: "I'll tell you why I tried lynching him AFTER HE'S DEAD." Scummy as hell.

4. Pact number one. I bet you'd do it if you were about to die.

5. Checking when the deadline is in case you need to do a last-minute switch?

6. This was the killer:
Self-votes are always scummy. I'd have voted split were it not for this.
Why is Jolt the scummiest? Again, a lot of accusation without any evidence.
Yet ANOTHER pact that was just begging to be broken, so I broke it. If he was/is scum, with this he'd have secured that neither of his buddies would be lynched. This pact was basically instilling fear to gain control of the wagers. Any rational townie would stand up to it, and I did.

EDIT: So yeah, remind me why I'm in the spotlight here and not him? I'm the one that has acted rationally throughout the first round, not him. I used the information I had and drew a conclusion, albeit a wrong one and for that I humbly apologise :bow:.

Allow Skooma to interject for a brief moment...

1. Yes he can. The tally clearly shows he did carry out betting all his credits with a respectable level of conviction, granted it was against a different target.

2. No, it isn't. As stated previously, he carried out his vote of all of his credits.

3. I'll give you that one. :laugh4:

4. Speculative. You don't know what he would or would not do and since we know he was willing to die for a vote he believed to be accurate, I feel the benefit of the doubt should slide ever so slightly to his favor.

5. Again, speculation. There's no reason for a townie not to watch the deadline in a game that allows it to be manipulated by the mafia this easily.

6. Your speculative claim does have some validity, but you're negating the key words that Sasaki intentionally left in there "without giving a thoroughly explained reason". To me, it came off a little demanding but the reasoning behind it stated isn't necessarily anti-town.

I'm not sure if your post is a defense of yourself, or an assault on Sasaki. In either case, you used a lot of speculation which no one could possible know that answers to, not to mention, your quotes of his aren't in chronological order, giving a slightly false impression of the way the round progressed and ultimately climaxed.

I won't lie to you, I'm quite insane, but with my limited sanity it would appear to me that you're trying to materialize something that just isn't there, and the thing that eats away at me the most, is that I have no idea what it is you wish to gain by smearing the name of someone who single-handedly killed a mafia on day one.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-05-2010, 21:29

Stupid multi-quote. No manipulation intended there.

I'm not smearing anybody. I didn't want to drag anything up because it's obvious that I was wrong in the first round. Completely wrong. I only pulled all of this up because Sasaki demanded his answers to why i voted him. The posts above are purely the thoughts that passed through my head as I voted and are purely defensive.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-05-2010, 21:31

You have answered my questions.

Splitpersonality

08-06-2010, 07:22

That was.

Wow.

Wow.

:o

Askthepizzaguy

08-06-2010, 18:34

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 3rd, 1983.

Night One

Secura hailed a taxi, ready to go home and give up this entire gambling thing. While she had been excited by the thrill of high stakes betting, there was just too much bloodshed down at Papa Gino's. One thing was for sure, she wouldn't be heading back there anytime soon...

The cab pulled up to the curb and she hopped in. The interior of the vehicle smelled wrong.... but she was too upset to notice.

Secura: 23rd and Maple, please.

The cab driver nodded, and sped off. Just in time, it started to rain. She was pleased not to be standing outside in that. She rested her head against the window and looked out into the darkness, listening to the sound of the windshield wipers and the radio. She felt light-headed, and noticed that the back of the cab was filling with some kind of gas. She tried to roll down her window, and open the door, but it was locked and wouldn't budge. She beat on the window with her fists, but she couldn't break the glass. She was feeling weak, and screamed for the cab driver to pull over. Then everything went black.

______________

The cab drove for many miles, until it reached the bridge. As expected, there was a police blockade, but they waved the cab through after the driver flashed his ID. The cab drove halfway across the bridge and stopped. The cabbie got out, and opened the back door, and lifted Secura out as gently as possible.

Vincenzo: I hate to have to do this to you, doll, but I've got no choice... Boss wants you dead. He's getting tired of waiting for his payment.

The man lifted his silenced weapon, and pointed it directly at Secura's face. He hesitated for a moment.... a long moment. And then he squeezed the trigger.

Vincenzo: Looks like I missed. That's a real shame. But I'm going to pretend I shot you in the face. Let's pretend you don't come back, understand?

The man wrote something down on a card, and shoved the Queen of Hearts card in Secura's jacket pocket. Then he tied a cement block to her foot, quite loosely, and tossed both her and the cement block over the bridge. Secura fell over 150 feet and landed in the water with a very audible thud. Vincenzo looked over the side of the bridge and waited.

Vincenzo: Come on, I didn't tie it that tight. It was all for appearances. Where'd you go?

Disappointed, Vincenzo waited for several long minutes, but didn't see anyone swim back up to the surface. He shook his head, sadly.

Vincenzo: arrivederci, mi amore...

He removed his fedora, and dropped a single rose down into the river. Then he stepped back into his cab, but not before removing the cab sign and replacing it with a Gino's Pizzeria sign.

Vincenzo: It's not personal, it's just business....

Vincenzo muttered to himself, not really believing it for a second. When he reached the police blockade, he tossed them a bag filled with cash, and sped off into the night.

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Slices remaining: (15/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Johnhughthom
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Seon
Skooma Addict
Splitpersonality

Sleeping with the fishes: (2/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler

Day Two begins now. Round ends Sunday, August 8th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone approximately 47 hours to post and vote.

Romanic

08-06-2010, 18:57

Killing Secura on Night 1 is sick, whoever did that will hear from her after the game :laugh4:

wager 1 credit: Arpeg

Because of yesterday's behavior.

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-06-2010, 19:16

I guess I should defer to Sasaki's scumdar in future. Didn't he say that Split was scummy?

Wager 5: Splitpersonality.

Could you elaborate, Sasaki?

Splitpersonality

08-06-2010, 19:21

I would like to hear the argument on myself as well, but that is such a scummy post arpeg :/

Wager 5: Mr THIS

Beskar

08-06-2010, 20:36

Secura did say she wanted to be killed though. She wanted to be Mafia and when she wasn't...

anyway, Wager 1 Credit: Peggie

Jolt

08-06-2010, 20:43

Killing Secura on Night 1 is sick, whoever did that will hear from her after the game :laugh4:

I take blame for that. It was my suggestion. :grin:

Seon

08-06-2010, 20:48

I would like to hear the argument on myself as well, but that is such a scummy post arpeg :/

Wager 5: Mr THIS

I agree.

Wager 10: Arpeg

Skooma Addict

08-06-2010, 21:05

Wager 10: Arpeg

Greyblades

08-07-2010, 00:40

Wager 3: arpeg

civplayah

08-07-2010, 01:49

wager 10: arpeg

Crazed Rabbit

08-07-2010, 01:53

Wager 25 credits: Beskar.

Third on the bandwagon. Greyblades is worth looking at too; jumps silently on the bandwagon with a wager only very slightly greater than the minimum.

CR

Jolt

08-07-2010, 02:15

Wager 25 credits: Beskar.

Third on the bandwagon. Greyblades is worth looking at too; jumps silently on the bandwagon with a wager only very slightly greater than the minimum.

And since when is that bad?

Sasaki Kojiro

08-07-2010, 02:31

heh :beam: interesting day so far.

I thought arpeg came out pretty well from his explanation posts. Not seeing him as mafia at the moment.

So we didn't exactly have a solid case to go on coming into today...that's why I've been holding back to see how it went.

Yesterdays success aside, it's going to be rather tough picking out mafia over just a few posts.

I'm thinking Seon and Skooma are the two scummiest.

Holding off on my wager for now. Can some people shift from arpeg to these two?

Skooma Addict

08-07-2010, 03:39

Wager 1 Credit: Peggie

Fold:

Wager: 20 Beskar

This is the second time you've wagered 1 coin. You were avid about lynching Arpeg and I pressured him a bit, but now that you have the chance to put your coin on the table you low-ball, again?

I'm thinking Seon and Skooma are the two scummiest

Could you explain a bit further your suspicions of me?

Diana Abnoba

08-07-2010, 06:15

Wager 3 credits: Seon I don't see the scum all over Arpeg either. I do see it with Seon's vote though.

civplayah

08-07-2010, 16:14

fold

wager 10: Beskar

Sasaki Kojiro

08-07-2010, 16:27

fold

wager 10: Beskar

how come?

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-07-2010, 18:22

Alright back and rested up.

Wager 25: Seon

Romanic

08-07-2010, 18:33

tally.

55 Beskar (CR 25, Skooma 20, civplayah 10)
28 Seon (CDF 25, Diana 3)
20 Arpeg (Seon 10, Split 5, Greyblades 3, Beskar 1, Romanic 1)
5 Split (Arpeg 5)

no wager: Double A, JHT, Pinman, Sasaki

Secura

08-07-2010, 18:44

Killing Secura on Night 1 is sick, whoever did that will hear from her after the game :laugh4:

Nah, they won't.

I admit that I signed up to this game hoping that I might be one of the mafia for once, because as someone recently pointed out to me, I'm coasting along as a middle-of-the-road townie currently; I'm not too prominent or skilled enough to coast through the game as lynchbait like Pizza or Beskar, nor am I too low-key/lurky to be kept alive by mafia on the off-chance I may not vote or read their posts in any sort of depth.

Essentially, I have no staying power as a townie whatsoever, which makes for increasingly boring games for me and will probably go some way to explaining my dwindling presence outside of The Aeducan Succession.

So, when it didn't transpire, I resigned myself to dying early as per, so I voted with every credit I had in a 'suicide' bid; I later deemed this to be immensely unsporting and retracted with a sorta 'just kill me tonight' plea to the mafia... better to first night me when I've got no enthusiasm for the game whatsoever than for me to get immersed and then be killed.

My thanks to Jolt and his cohorts, my apologies to Pizza, my best wishes to the town. Have fun! :3

johnhughthom

08-07-2010, 19:52

Wager 90: Sasaki.

Why not?

Beskar

08-07-2010, 19:54

Wager 25 credits: Beskar.

Third on the bandwagon. Greyblades is worth looking at too; jumps silently on the bandwagon with a wager only very slightly greater than the minimum.

CR

Mafia.

Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit

Sasaki Kojiro

08-07-2010, 20:02

:dunce:

Beskar

08-07-2010, 20:09

:dunce:

Worked for you, now to bag a 2nd mafia.

Skooma Addict

08-07-2010, 20:32

Mafia.

Fold; Wager 100 Credits: Crazed Rabbit

Fold

How sure are you of this?

Beskar

08-07-2010, 20:35

Interesting, why did you fold?

civplayah

08-07-2010, 22:12

how come?

So I wouldn't lose my money...

But, now that Crazed Rabbit is in the lead...

fold
wager 20: Crazed Rabbit

Romanic

08-07-2010, 22:17

Hey guys, Crazed Rabbit helped to lynch Jolt. What the reasoning here? Do you think he bussed his partner?

fos: civplayah for following blindly on this, supposedly to save credits.

Not so much fos at Beskar, he could be clowning like Beskar sometimes do. :laugh4:

Beskar

08-07-2010, 22:26

Crazed Rabbit

08-07-2010, 22:27

I'm inclined to agree with Beskar.

Fold.

Wager 10 credits: Civplayah.

CR

Diana Abnoba

08-07-2010, 22:36

I agree

Fold

Wager 10 credits: Civplayah

Sasaki Kojiro

08-07-2010, 22:40

Interesting, why civplayah and not skooma?

Beskar

08-07-2010, 22:45

I find his signature more appealing.

In otherwords, Apples and Pears. They are both viable candidates. They jumped on the one on me when CR did his wager, then I did mine, then they jumped off that bandwagon, but Civplayah jumped onto CR. One thing is certain, they both acted incredibly scummy.

Diana Abnoba

08-07-2010, 22:46

For me, Civplayah already had bids on him, he couldn't out bid us as well as Skooma. Next round bid on Skooma. If we put too many bids on several people, the mafia can just out bid us to save themselves or their partners.

Double A

08-07-2010, 22:51

True, it'd be too hard to lynch Skooma, especially since he could just put money on someone else.

Wager 25: civplayah

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 07:07

Skooma Addict

08-08-2010, 07:10

Interesting, why did you fold?

My reason for voting for you were because your wagering was suspiciously small. 1 coin first round, 1 coin this round. I found such small consecutive wagers a bit odd.

Skooma Addict

08-08-2010, 07:13

I would like to point out that Crazed Rabbit is not the mafia, but Civplayah and Skooma jumping off the bandwagon and jumping on one on CR is definitely a real scum sign.

Fold; Wager 26 credits: Civplayah

I never voted for CR.

EDIT: Apologies, he was my random vote in the first round. I didn't bandwagon vote him this round as you suggested.

Skooma Addict

08-08-2010, 07:56

lol, I think I am still in the lead due to jht's vote.

Should I break the pact :juggle2:

Yes I believe I can do that, extenuating circumstances and all.

wager 80 credits: Seon

Skooma is my next choice, and has a lot of votes, but hmm.

civplayah seems innocent actually

But honestly, despite yesterdays success we are shooting in the dark here. Seon has what 4 posts? But if we make a decent enough effort we can win eventually.

And seon, if you do save yourself you're scum, hmmk? No extenuating circumstances in your case.

greyblades and cdf have been very quiet.

Thought of a kind of gamebreaking strategy...don't think we'll use it though.

You never answered my question as to what exactly I did that looked scummy to you, but that's fine. One way or another, it won't matter after this day phase.

Wager: 90 Seon

That is all of my remaining coins. If I'm not mistaken, that's 195 coin on Seon, outbidding all other wagers. The rest of you can fold your bids and save your coin for when it is most needed as is not the case at the moment. Save your coin. It's much better I contribute all of my worth to take out a prime suspect along with myself, saving town coin this round as well as my subsequent lynch the next. I'm offering two birds with one stone, so conserve your coin and make sure someone is in the thread to make sure no one tries a last minute switch-a-roo to someone else in the morning.

Seon

08-08-2010, 09:48

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 10:17

Well, you all will be wasting a lot of money, but whatever, isn't it?

fold. 90 credits on Sasaki.

If you are Town, you should not be thinking like that. Your survival as individual is not important and you should make your lynch as costless as possible. Your attitude is very anti-Town here, Seon.

Again, it's suspicious to see big bets on someone who lynched Jolt on Day 1. Of course he could have lynched his partner to gain a lot of favor, and I have no doubt that Sasaki could make this play, but I am not interested to test this theory on Day 2.

Wager 90: Sasaki.

Why not?

JHT, you need to remove this vote now. If it was a trap then good job, we've baited Seon. We cannot afford to pay 200+ credits to later realize that Seon was just a stubbord townie. Let's reduce the cost of lynching him, and for that we need you to fold your vote on Sasaki. If you don't remove it, you will lose it anyway and die, because unless the situation changes, I guarantee you that I will make the necessary wager to lynch Seon at the time limit.

The same goes for anyone else not voting for Seon. It's time to fold to save your credits.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 10:55

This setup makes it hard for the mafia to lynch a townie because they will lose their credits by doing so, and I think they are aware of this. Notice how Jolt made a 85 credit wager on Day 1 - He could not go the whole way because he would also die.

If the person you wager money on is innocent, you lose those credits.

That's the killer rule for them.

So that's why Jolt bet 85 and not 100. He kept 15 to survive.

Now notice Seon's last bet. He's pushing a lot of chips to lynch Sasaki (90), but he's still keeping some (9). I would be much more inclined to believe that Seon is town if he pushed his whole stack(99), as it would show that Seon really believes Sasaki to be scum. Keeping 9 credits shows that Seon is worried about his survival, and that he possibly knows Sasaki is not mafia.

However the same reasoning could be applied to Sasaki's wager of 80 on Seon. I don't like it Sasaki. Why 100 on Jolt and now only 80 on Seon?

Seon

08-08-2010, 11:22

Romanic

08-08-2010, 12:07

:laugh4:

You're not helping yourself Seon. If you are innocent, you should be trying to convince us that you are, not making threats on how much it will cost us to lynch you. Also, stating that you are keeping 9 credits to add them later is not making much sense when you are already wagering 90, as 9 more will not likely make a difference in the final result.

There's no way I am going to let you go now, you need to be lynched asap.

Fold

wager 1 credit: Seon

For the record, I am aware that this bet is pointless but I will be around to change it before the deadline. For now, I am content to show my support of a Seon lynch with 1 credit.

Beskar

08-08-2010, 12:45

Fold; wager 1 credit: Seon

Not going to waste money when it is the only advantage we have.

Seon

08-08-2010, 13:12

Seon

08-08-2010, 13:30

Romanic

08-08-2010, 13:38

You think I'm mafia? I'm just doing this for fun.

For example...

Fold

Wager: 99 credit on civplayah

There, now I would die of credit loss and civplayah would die of a lynch, bringing 2 suspects down.

There there. Happy, Roman? :p

Yes, I am happy. As we discussed in chat, I think it's a good idea that you vote all your credits to lynch another suspect (civplayah). You will survive only if it turns out that civplayah is mafia, which would be a good thing.

If everyone agrees with this plan, I believe we should be removing our wagers and let Seon lynch civplayah using all his credits. However we need to be around at the deadline to make sure Seon does not move his vote at the last minute.

What do you think of this idea?

Romanic

08-08-2010, 13:44

updated tally.

197 Seon (Skooma 90, Sasaki 80, CDF 25, Beskar 1, Romanic 1)
144 civplayah (Seon 99, Double A 25, Crazed Rabbit 10, Diana 10)
90 Sasaki (JHT 90)
20 Crazed Rabbit (civplayah 20)
8 Arpeg (Split 5, Greyblades 3)
5 Split (Arpeg 5)

Pinman

08-08-2010, 14:09

Wager 1: Seon

Askthepizzaguy

08-08-2010, 14:48

slightly over 2 hours remain.

Official Tally:

Seon: 198 (25, Cultured Drizzt Fan) (80, Sasaki Kojiro) (90, Skooma Addict) (1, Romanic) (1, Beskar) (1, Pinman)
civplayah: 144 (10, CR) (10, Diana) (25, Double A) (99, Seon)
Sasaki: 90 (90, JHT)
Crazed Rabbit: 20 (20, civplayah)
ArpeggiateTHIS: 8 (5, Split) (3, Greyblades)
Splitpersonality: 5 (5, Arpeg)

Skooma Addict

08-08-2010, 15:27

I look at statement like that, Romanic, and I think. What would Diamondeye do? He would probably try and kill you with a switchblade and swing it at you with madness in his eyes.

Unfortunately I don't have a switchblade, so I won't do that.

Anyways, you say I am holding back on credits? Of course I am. I am planning on adding them to my wager if you all fail to see that my lynch isn't worth the credits you are pouring in. Do I believe that Sasaki is innocent? Sure I do. He got Jolt on day 1 after all!

So the real question is, if I am town, am I insane enough to endanger Sasaki like that? Yes. Yes I am.

I think I found my new hero.

I will try to stick around as long as I can, but I may depart before the deadline. Romanic, my life and credits are yours to command until then. As much as it saddens me to vote for such a breathtakingly wonderful pillar of insanity, until you command otherwise, my votes will remain on Seon.

May we see each other on the other side...

Greyblades

08-08-2010, 15:45

fold
wager 5: seon

Sorry I've been abit inactive pizza. I got a 30 day free trial on warhammer online and, well, its kinda addicting.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:05

The "suspects commit suicide" stuff is what I was thinking when I said there was a gamebreaking strategy...town can get extra lynches.

As it stands, jht, skooma, and seon are committing suicide.

hmm. I'm somewhat tempted to lynch arpegg, feeling a bit like an arpegg-diana scumteam.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:22

Well, I suppose it remains to be seen if seon will stay with his vote. Switching at the very last minute would be a better scum strategy than what jolt tried.

eh, my scumhunting focus isn't here right now though so I'm not going to try and figure it out.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 16:25

It's is reasonable to pick a new lynch target so close to the deadline (~35 minutes left) ? As you said, we stand to lose three players, we could lose more if we were to move our votes to Arpeg.

And I'm seeing Seon and civplayah scummier than Arpeg. Very surprised that you are not.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 16:28

With the current votes, Seon cannot try a last minute vote. He cannot beat his current vote count no matter where he places his 99 credits.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:28

Yeah, after I said that I reread and was like "what am I seeing?" so that's why I said I wasn't going to try and figure it out.

Will probably trust the others judgement and vote civplayah.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:30

fold
wager 1 credit: civplayah

Crazed Rabbit

08-08-2010, 16:37

fold.

Wager 1 credit: Seon

CR

civplayah

08-08-2010, 16:41

Frankly, I am aware I am playing this game quite cluelessly. It's a new kind of game that I'm not familiar with, but you can lynch me if you think I'm scummy. That'll just bring the town down. I have no defense, since I'm a townie...

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:43

Arrg, what a mess of a day. It's too late to switch to pinman or someone.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 16:54

fold
wager 13 credits: Seon

For the best I think. Can't let Skooma die.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:56

Yeah I see what you mean, but if seon is mafia he can just switch to me.

Romanic

08-08-2010, 16:57

Then be ready to wager more on him!

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:58

fold

wager 1 credit: seon

Sasaki Kojiro

08-08-2010, 16:58

Then be ready to wager more on him!

I'll raise to a big enough wager seconds before

Crazed Rabbit

08-08-2010, 17:00

It's over.

CR

Romanic

08-08-2010, 17:00

Okay this is it.

Edit: Should be 137 Seon, 134 civplayah.

I guess Seon was a townie after all, or he would have tried something.

Beskar

08-08-2010, 17:13

Skooma, where is your drug smoking hippie girl from?

Askthepizzaguy

08-08-2010, 17:14

She's not on drugs, she's high on life, Beskar. Why won't anyone think of the children.

Final tally, point out any errors you see.

Seon: 137 (25, Cultured Drizzt Fan) (90, Skooma Addict) (1, Beskar) (1, Pinman) (5, Greyblades) (1, CR) (13, Romanic) (1, Sasaki)

civplayah: 134 (10, Diana) (25, Double A) (99, Seon)

Sasaki: 90 (90, JHT)

Crazed Rabbit: 20 (20, civplayah)

ArpeggiateTHIS: 5 (5, Split)

Splitpersonality: 5 (5, Arpeg)

Writeup commencing.

Seon

08-08-2010, 17:19

Okay this is it.

Edit: Should be 137 Seon, 134 civplayah.

I guess Seon was a townie after all, or he would have tried something.

I am so disappointed Romanic, you should learn how to read me. It's quite easy, in fact. If I am acting all insane and scum-like, I am innocent :p

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-08-2010, 17:22

Conserving credits seems to be a win/win strategy for this game. The only downside of low bets that I can think of is that scum might lay down a lot of money at the last minute. Surely though, if this happens, he'll have wasted all of his chips and will be an easy lynch next round? With high credit reserves, anybody that survives late in the game can protect from night-kills too.

That's my recommendation anyway. Any thoughts?

Beskar

08-08-2010, 17:39

Those with high amounts of credits will be Night targets anyway. So those with high credit amounts will die.

Also, those with high credit amounts know this and will protect themselves at night, while those with low cannot do this.

Complex system. Try and target the ones which are better to kill off, but risk failing, or kill off those you know you can kill?

Romanic

08-08-2010, 17:44

I am so disappointed Romanic, you should learn how to read me. It's quite easy, in fact. If I am acting all insane and scum-like, I am innocent :p

Jolt made a similar comment after being lynched and he turned out mafia, so I think I will wait before feeling sorry about your lynch. :laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy

08-08-2010, 17:58

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 4th, 1983.

End of Day Two

Michael decided he wanted in on this card game, and tossed in his ante. The marks seemed much more confident they could beat the house this time. A little bit too cocky, perhaps, but only time would tell. Michael decided to continue the tradition of asking for the lowest bets to show their cards first.

Michael: Mister THIS, let's start with you.

ArpeggiateTHIS: I have two aces, can I split them up?

Michael: That's Blackjack. For the last time, we're playing Poker.

Splitpersonality: Two pair, aces and deuces.

civplayah: Blast, I couldn't fill my straight.

Johnhughthom: I bet everything! I'm a high roller, that's how I roll.

Michael: What do you roll in a card game? Let's see your cards.

Johnhughthom: No. Just trust me, I have a full house.

Michael: *lifting the gun* SHOW... THE.... CARDS.

Johnhughthom: three, seven, nine, jack, four. What's that make?

Michael: I believe that makes you bankrupt. Good night, John.

*Michael pointed the gun at John, and opened fire, filling his body with hot, searing lead, and knocking him out of his chair.*

Diana Abnoba: Pair of threes.

Double A: Straight, ten high. Read 'em and weep, boys!

Sasaki Kojiro: Fold.

Crazed Rabbit: Get lost.

Pinman: Too rich for my blood.

Beskar: I'm out.

Skooma Addict: I'll see your 25, and raise you.... EVERYTHING I GOT LEFT!!! I have a flush. All diamonds. I feel like Skooma tonight!

Seon: Oh, not a flush. I can't beat that. All I have is a full boat, queens and aces. Good thing I bet everything too. I guess that means I win.

Michael: No, it means you lose.... I have Four Kings.

*Michael pointed the gun at Seon, and opened fire, blasting his head clean off of his shoulders.*

Skooma Addict: Whoops, I'm out of money! Why did I bet all my chips? I needed that money for my Skooma habit!

*Michael pointed the gun at Skooma Addict, and opened fire, emptying his clip and making Skooma look like swiss cheese*

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Michael: Looks like I cleaned house tonight. Papa Gino's thanks you for your patronage.

With that, Michael slid everyone's chips toward him, and stacked them up nice and neatly, then grinned like a true psychopath. Everyone lost their bets today.

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Tally

Seon: 137 (25, Cultured Drizzt Fan) (90- all in, Skooma Addict) (1, Beskar) (1, Pinman) (5, Greyblades) (1, CR) (13, Romanic) (1, Sasaki)
civplayah: 134 (10, Diana) (25, Double A) (99- all in, Seon)
Sasaki: 90 (90- all in, JHT)
Crazed Rabbit: 20 (20, civplayah)
ArpeggiateTHIS: 5 (5, Split)
Splitpersonality: 5 (5, Arpeg)

Slices remaining: (12/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Pinman
Romanic
Sasaki Kojiro
Splitpersonality

Sleeping with the fishes: (5/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Seon- Professional gambler
Skooma Addict- Professional gambler
Johnhughthom- Professional gambler

NOTICE:

Because Seon was innocent, everyone who placed a bet lost their money. Those who bet everything lost all of their remaining cash and went bankrupt.... and became slightly deader.

Night Two begins now. Round ends Monday, August 9th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone 24 hours to send in night actions if they so choose.

Jolt

08-08-2010, 20:03

Teehee! Thank you for making up for my early way out, town! :D

Skooma Addict

08-08-2010, 21:11

Skooma, where is your drug smoking hippie girl from?

She came to me in a dream. She flew in through my window surfing on a cloud and handed me a shiny pink bottle. I haven't been the same since. :hippy:

But seriously, I can't remember where. If I still have the original picture I'll send it to you.

Teehee! Thank you for making up for my early way out, town! :D

Your schoolboy-ish enthusiasm brings joy to my enlarged, technicolor heart. :heart:

@Pizza
What is deader then dead? Am I, undead?

@Town

I have an insane suggestion which no one in their right mind would even begin to entertain, so hear me out. How about everyone comes to a consensus about a particular coarse of action as opposed to driving your two clinically insane members into committing suicide?

An alternate plan is to have someone suicide every day phase having them place all their coin on themselves and everyone else places one coin on them as to appease the great pizza god in all his cheesy goodness. By sheer number, we're bound to get the remaining scum as long as the town, as a whole, agrees that winning is more important then their individual wants to be alive. Also, if the town comes to an agreement upon this radical course of action, it will force the scum to have no choice but to adamantly oppose it for transparent reasons. Town is more important then the individual. You all have to agree to something, together, even if it isn't my proposed plan because wasting coin isn't going to get it done, no matter how satisfying it is to be turned into an undead slice of swiss cheese.

Askthepizzaguy

08-09-2010, 15:21

I would ordinarily grant an extension due to the forum being down, but it so happens I have the orders from the mafia.

Askthepizzaguy

08-09-2010, 17:44

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 4th, 1983.

Night Two

Romanic got into his car and counted the money he had left. It was time to go home. He wondered whether winning money at Papa Gino's was worth it, considering the death toll so far, but lost his train of thought and started re-counting his money. Then he noticed that there was another vehicle at the far end of the parking lot. Everyone else had left.

Suddenly the lights of that vehicle turned on, and it slowly moved closer to Romanic's car. At this point, Romanic tossed his chips into his glove box and turned the ignition key, and pulled out of his parking space as fast as he could. He felt the other car slam into his, and his face bounced off of the steering wheel.

Romanic: Oh :daisy:... Time to buckle up...

Romanic pushed the pedal to the metal and his car exited the parking lot and went careening into midnight traffic. The vehicle behind him was in close pursuit. Romanic swerved his car in and out of traffic, trying to shake his pursuer. He looked around frantically for a police patrol car, but could not find any. He focused on formulating a plan which could save him....

Vincenzo: Where do you think you're going? Boss wants his payment. Don't make this harder than it has to be...

Romanic of course could not hear his attacker, but spotted a small alley up ahead and to the left. Without warning, Romanic cut his wheel sharply, and swerved across three lanes of traffic, over the solid yellow line, and across 4 lanes of oncoming traffic, without getting so much as a scratch. The oncoming traffic, however, was forced to brake and swerve sharply to avoid him, causing a multi-car accident. He could hear horns blaring, but continued down the alley.

Romanic: That was too close...

It seemed like the accident negated any possibility of his pursuer following him down the alley. He looked up ahead and saw a chain link fence blocking his path, and it looked like a dead end. But Romanic just went faster, and crashed right through the fence, busting up his windshield in the process. He continued down the alley, to the avenue up ahead. When he got there, he waited for traffic to give him space, and then turned right.

Vincenzo: You'll have to do better than that, my Italian friend.

Romanic spotted the Papa Gino's delivery vehicle waiting for him in the next alley over. The car roared into traffic and impacted Romanic's vehicle on the passenger side, knocking Romanic's car into the van driving on his left. Horns blared and traffic slowed, and Romanic sped off. Out of the corner of his eye, he spotted two patrol cars parked at a Dunkin' Donuts and honked his horn repeatedly, but the police officers taking a break inside didn't even look up.

Vincenzo: Pull over, Romanic, I just want to talk to you.....

Vincenzo's delivery car slammed into the passenger rear tire, executing a perfect pit maneuver. Romanic's car twisted sharply to the right, and slammed through a street lamp and into a closed coffee shop. The front end was smashed up, and the engine ground to a halt.

Vincenzo: I just want my money. Get out of the car.

Vincenzo shouted at Romanic to exit his vehicle with the money. Slowly but surely, Romanic pulled himself from the twisted wreckage, carrying the case filled with his remaining cash.

Vincenzo: Hold it right there. Don't get cute, just slide it toward me, and then get down on the ground with your arms behind your head, face down.

Vincenzo counted up the money. There was only $87,015.25 in the case, far short of the $150,000 that Romanic owed Michael.

Vincenzo: Romanic, I'm disappointed in you. You know the boss don't like having to send me to collect. With the damage to my car, I'm going to have to charge you another 10 grand to replace it. And you don't have nearly enough money here.

Romanic: I'll win enough tomorrow, I swear!

Vincenzo: No, I don't think so. Nobody wins at Michael's tables. It's all rigged, didn't you know? We played you for a sucker. You needed to go take out a second mortgage or something... rob a bank, whatever. Now, it's time to collect.....

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Vincenzo shot Romanic in the back, firing 20 rounds, until he was satisfied that Romanic would be dead in moments.

Vincenzo: I'll take the $87,015 as payment, and then we'll loot your place for what's left. Blackmail relatives. Whatever. But, since I'm in an especially generous mood.....

Vincenzo took the quarter from the case, and flipped it onto Romanic's dying body.

Vincenzo: Keep the change, ya filthy animal.

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Slices remaining: (11/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Pinman
Sasaki Kojiro
Splitpersonality

Sleeping with the fishes: (6/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Seon- Professional gambler
Skooma Addict- Professional gambler
Johnhughthom- Professional gambler
Romanic- Professional gambler

Day Three begins now. Round ends Wednesday, August 11th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone approximately 47 hours to post and vote.

Romanic

08-09-2010, 18:00

Moral of the story kids, don't borrow money to play at the Casino. :grin:

Jolt

08-09-2010, 23:29

Exactly. We're really the good guys. The tax collectors, if you wish. :grin:

Romanic

08-09-2010, 23:37

Exactly. We're really the good guys. The tax collectors, if you wish. :grin:

Shushh you. Go play with worms, flies or whatever is infesting your coffin.

Beskar

08-09-2010, 23:45

My two top suspects are Peggie and Civplayah.

I will go for Civplayah again.

Wager 20 Credits; Civplayah

Jolt

08-10-2010, 00:27

Shushh you. Go play with worms, flies or whatever is infesting your coffin.

I can't. I convinced them of the amazing profits they can win at the casino, so they went there to play.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-10-2010, 04:16

nother shot in the dark.

Wager 29: diana

Diana Abnoba

08-10-2010, 07:14

Sasaki you need night vision glasses.

Wager 5: Civplayah try this again, don't really know who else to pick as of yet.

Crazed Rabbit

08-10-2010, 07:19

wager 20 credits: ArpeggiateTHIS

CR

Askthepizzaguy

08-10-2010, 16:12

roughly 24 hours remain.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-10-2010, 16:29

fold, wager 29 credits:pinman

ArpeggiateTHIS

08-10-2010, 16:30

I'll have my regular, please. Wager 5: Splitpersonality.

Romanic

08-10-2010, 16:42

tally.

29 Pinman (Sasaki 29)
25 civplayah (Beskar 20, Diana 5)
20 Arpeg (CR 20)
5 Split (Arpeg 5)
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not voting (6) : Split, Pinman, Greyblades, Double A, civplayah, CDF

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-10-2010, 17:17

Wager 9: Civplayah

Dont really have a reason this time.

Sasaki Kojiro

08-10-2010, 19:55

Wager 9: Civplayah

Dont really have a reason this time.

besides saving your buddy pinman :beam:

Cultured Drizzt fan

08-10-2010, 20:13

besides saving your buddy pinman :beam:

Fine, if you put it like that,

Fold, Wager 20: Pinman

Double A

08-10-2010, 23:55

Gave in to pressure extremely quickly...

wager 15: CDF

Skooma Addict

08-11-2010, 01:58

My two top suspects are Peggie and Civplayah.

I will go for Civplayah again.

Wager 20 Credits; Civplayah

Don't you ignore Meh!

I have an insane suggestion which no one in their right mind would even begin to entertain, so hear me out. How about everyone comes to a consensus about a particular coarse of action as opposed to driving your two clinically insane members into committing suicide?

An alternate plan is to have someone suicide every day phase having them place all their coin on themselves and everyone else places one coin on them as to appease the great pizza god in all his cheesy goodness. By sheer number, we're bound to get the remaining scum as long as the town, as a whole, agrees that winning is more important then their individual wants to be alive. Also, if the town comes to an agreement upon this radical course of action, it will force the scum to have no choice but to adamantly oppose it for transparent reasons. Town is more important then the individual. You all have to agree to something, together, even if it isn't my proposed plan because wasting coin isn't going to get it done, no matter how satisfying it is to be turned into an undead slice of swiss cheese.

Also, I've only played with civplayah a couple times, but I think his random/sporaticness is just a part of his swagger. It may or may not correlate to his level of scumminess, but then again, some of you would know better then me.

Beskar

08-11-2010, 04:15

fold; wager 1 credit: Pinman

I am curious as well, Sasaki.

Greyblades

08-11-2010, 07:27

Fine, if you put it like that,

Fold, Wager 20: Pinman

...Realy? Thats it, your just going to fold(heh) on the first bump? Would you like us to call you Cultured Whipping Boy?

Sasaki Kojiro

08-11-2010, 07:33

...Realy? Thats it, your just going to fold(heh) on the first bump? Would you like us to call you Cultured Whipping Boy?

Who do you think is mafia and why?

Greyblades

08-11-2010, 07:57

I dont know to be honest, CDF is my main suspect because of his evasion but its not exactly conclusive enough to put faith into it. Skooma's suggestion was... odd, its allmost impossible for a townie to agree to vote for himself but... gah I realy need some caffeen.

Crazed Rabbit

08-11-2010, 16:56

Hmm. Non-commitment from Greyblades.

Fold.
Wager 1 credit: Greyblades.

We need more discussion next round.

CR

Romanic

08-11-2010, 17:05

No action at the deadline? Boring.

@CR: Interesting that you chose to vote for Greyblades when it was certain that Pinman was being lynched. Why not Pinman?

civplayah

08-11-2010, 17:11

Also, I've only played with civplayah a couple times, but I think his random/sporaticness is just a part of his swagger. It may or may not correlate to his level of scumminess, but then again, some of you would know better then me.

Awww, you called me sporatic! Thanks! But, in all seriousness, Skooma Addict is right.

civplayah

08-11-2010, 17:14

Just realized- I haven't voted. I'll wager 15 on Pinman.

Greyblades

08-11-2010, 17:47

Seeing as I'd get insta killed if I dont wager at least something.
wager 1: Pinman

Askthepizzaguy

08-11-2010, 18:37

Round has been over since 1159; tallying votes now.

Civplayah: (5, Diana)
Pinman (29, Sasaki) (20, CDF) (1, Beskar)
Grey: (1, CR)
Split (5, Arpeg)
CDF (15, Double A)

Writeup commencing.

civplayah

08-11-2010, 18:57

I put 15 on Pinman...

Askthepizzaguy

08-11-2010, 19:06

Askthepizzaguy Mafia

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Papa Gino's pizzeria. August 5th, 1983.

End of Day Three

Michael tossed his ante into the pile along with all the others. After several rounds of betting and raising, everything had settled down. A bit of the wind had been knocked out of their sails, noted Michael.

Michael: All right. Let's see your cards.

Crazed Rabbit: What are you doing to me with these cards? This is ridiculous. A pair of threes for God's sake.

Diana Abnoba: Nothing.

ArpeggiateTHIS: I got bubkes.

Double A: Three kings.

Beskar: Nada.

Cultured Drizzt Fan: I got jack. Literally, I have one jack.

Everyone else, besides Sasaki, Pinman, and Michael, folded.

Pinman: I have a straight. 8, 7, 6, 5, 4.

Double A: :daisy:

Sasaki: Three tens.......

Pinman smirked.

Sasaki: ...and two sevens. Michael?

Michael: Gee, I have a straight too.

Sasaki: :bounce:

Michael: ...Only, mine's a flush. You lose again, 'Saki.

Sasaki: :embarassed:

Pinman: This is outrageous! I have the worst luck ever.

Michael: Pinman, my boy, you were supposed to pay me back today. Now, I'm afraid it's time to pay the pie-man, Pin-man!

*Michael pointed the gun at Pinman, who tried to get out of his chair, and opened fire, shooting him directly in the face. His body hit the wall behind him, and then staggered forward and landed on the table. His mutilated face bled out all over everyone's chips.*

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Michael: Aww what a shame, I really liked this table. I'll just be taking everyone's chips now. No big bets today? Hardly worth my time.

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Tally

Pinman (29, Sasaki) (20, CDF) (1, Beskar)
CDF (15, Double A)
Civplayah: (5, Diana)
Split (5, Arpeg)
Grey: (1, CR)

Slices remaining: (10/17)

ArpeggiateTHIS
Beskar
civplayah
Crazed Rabbit
Cultured Drizzt Fan
Diana Abnoba
Double A
Greyblades
Sasaki Kojiro
Splitpersonality

Sleeping with the fishes: (7/17)

Jolt- Anthony "Tony" Valerio (MAFIA)
Secura- Professional gambler
Seon- Professional gambler
Skooma Addict- Professional gambler
Johnhughthom- Professional gambler
Romanic- Professional gambler
Pinman- Professional gambler

NOTICE:

Because Pinman was innocent, everyone who placed a bet lost their money. Everyone who didn't place a bet before the deadline lost 1 credit.

Night Three begins now. Round ends Monday, August 12th, at 1159 (noon) Eastern Time USA. This gives everyone 22 hours to send in night actions if they so choose.