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No problems with the subforums that I recall.
What would people think of a new subforum for V&V separate from the archive?
Ibn-Khaldun
06-10-2011, 06:09
Although I am not playing V&V, I have followed it from the start. It's own forum could attract people to join the game. The same goes for any other big game.
Much easier to introduce/advertise a game like this in it's own fora than in a generic forum like this.
True, and I think especially having multiple rpgs it's best if they all have their own subforums apart from an "archive" one. If Cecil is for it I'll request one for both rpgs.
Cecil XIX
06-10-2011, 23:32
I'm quite happy for the games to get their own subforums; I think it will function as an extra bit of advertising.
Ouch, this will be a bad turn for Von Essen. I waited to late to check on something :sweatdrop:
Nightbringer
06-11-2011, 21:44
I have a ooc request to make about the recruiting procedure for the Reichsmarshall. Could it possibly be changed so that I have permission extending over several turns or something like that. I have missed several turns now because I have missed the deadline after waiting for a response about recruitment.
Do the current rules specifically say by turn? I tried to give a "till end of term" permission.
Cecil XIX
06-20-2011, 23:18
Guys, I'm really sorry for the delay. I accidentally stepped into something IRL that has proven to require much more of my time than I thought. I've taken steps to alleviate the situation, and will get the turn up as soon as I can find the time.
phonicsmonkey
06-20-2011, 23:48
No problem mate, we're standing by. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
GeneralHankerchief
06-23-2011, 22:08
Ugh, this is the worst possible timing I can imagine. I really want to fight this battle (seriously, I've been waiting for about 3 months) but the other day, as I mentioned in the Levantine Struggle thread, my Kingdoms disc chipped and now my computer won't recognize it. I've been around looking for cheap replacements but all of my local stores either don't stock Kingdoms or bundle it with Medieval 2 and Rome and are selling for $30 (which I absolutely refuse to pay considering I have all four games).
I'm probably just going to have to bite the bullet and buy it off Steam, but please don't skip me just yet.
phonicsmonkey
06-23-2011, 22:13
It seems to be ten bucks on Steam. I haven't used a steam version of M2TW or Kingdoms but I have heard it presents problems with some mods. They're fixable but you may find it annoying getting it to work. Someone who knows more about that could probably correct me.
On Amazon you can get it for 7.44 but one-day shipping will cost you extra..
Ibn-Khaldun
06-24-2011, 07:26
In GamersGate M2TW Gold Edition is listed €9.95. I think GG is better option than Steam.
Cecil XIX
06-24-2011, 17:03
In GamersGate M2TW Gold Edition is listed €9.95. I think GG is better option than Steam.
Agreed, that's what I have. It's $10 for Americans. Works just like you had the disk in.
GeneralHankerchief
06-24-2011, 20:07
Alright, thanks guys, I'll try that. Anyone know if I have to uninstall my (disc) game first?
Ibn-Khaldun
06-24-2011, 20:47
Alright, thanks guys, I'll try that. Anyone know if I have to uninstall my (disc) game first?
I think that you have to uninstall it first.
GeneralHankerchief
06-25-2011, 00:36
Alright, bullet bit. If all goes well I'll be ready to fight in a few hours.
phonicsmonkey
06-25-2011, 00:58
Agreed, that's what I have. It's $10 for Americans. Works just like you had the disk in.
That's a good deal. 10 EUR is more like 14 bucks. Why do Americans get a better price? :laugh4:
GeneralHankerchief
06-25-2011, 08:09
Quick update: I'm in the process of downloading the game, but apparently my connection doesn't like whatever server it's downloading from as it seems to crap out every 300mb or so. It's very slow going, but I'm hopefully going to get the entire thing downloaded tonight before I go to bed and will then install the LTC mod/play the save sometime tomorrow.
Again, really sorry for the delay. This is pretty much the worst possible timing I could think of. :sweatdrop:
GeneralHankerchief
06-25-2011, 19:44
Cecil, your mini-names mod is no longer available, but I'm not going to wait any longer to fight this. Will DL and battle in a little bit. :yes:
-edit- Actually wait, crap, whenever I click to play the save the game goes back to the main menu. Could this possibly be because of the mini mod?
Nightbringer
06-25-2011, 20:26
That is what happens when you try to load a incompatible save, so it likely is because of the mini mod/
Cecil XIX
06-26-2011, 02:10
In retrospect, it would have been better just to modify the file that gives the HRE a family tree. Oh well, here are the files (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=161&id=9181). Extract them to the data folder of LTC.
GeneralHankerchief
06-26-2011, 07:04
Ugh, installed the mini mod and still have the same problem. Were there any other changes made that could make the save incompatible with my game?
I'm sorry this keeps dragging out, guys. If this takes much longer, I have half a mind to just have Cecil autoresolve it and then write a nice death scene for Heinrich. Hopefully it won't get to that point though.
phonicsmonkey
06-26-2011, 07:20
This sucks I know, but did you try reinstalling everything yet? I mean M2TW as well as Kingdoms, and then isn't there a patch that needs to go on top of that before you install the mod?
GeneralHankerchief
06-26-2011, 07:34
It's M2TW Gold edition, so I assumed it was fully patched. I'll do a reinstall anyway just to cover everything though.
phonicsmonkey
06-26-2011, 08:10
I thought there was a post-Kingdoms patch but it's been so long since I installed that I may have forgotten..
Nightbringer
06-26-2011, 08:37
oh, yes, there is. It is the 1.5 patch which you need!
GeneralHankerchief
06-26-2011, 09:47
Wow, I'm an idiot. :wall: Thanks, guys, seriously. Seeing as it's nearly 5am right now for me, we'll leave off with this and Heinrich will fight the damn thing tomorrow. :charge:
GeneralHankerchief
06-27-2011, 00:27
Freaking. Finally. Save sent back to Cecil, TCV's up next (don't know if we have to go through Cecil or not first, if not just DL 37-7 from the directory).
I'll try to get a battle report of this up in the next couple of days. Thanks again for your patience, guys. :yes:
phonicsmonkey
06-27-2011, 01:04
Freaking. Finally.
w00t!
The Celtic Viking
06-27-2011, 01:04
I'll wait until Cecil answers that, and since that's not likely to be tonight, I'll take it tomorrow. I'm glad this game is back on track again.
phonicsmonkey
06-27-2011, 01:08
Can I assume that the Poles were sent packing and that the Kaiser lives? I want to make a Diet post but I don't want it to be wildly inaccurate...
GeneralHankerchief
06-27-2011, 01:13
Can I assume that the Poles were sent packing and that the Kaiser lives? I want to make a Diet post but I don't want it to be wildly inaccurate...
Ah, I was going to wait until the battle report to make the reveal, but I forgot about the Diet opportunities. Stand by for an announcement.
Cecil XIX
06-27-2011, 23:18
For future reference, I'm fine with someone directly taking the save if his avatar is in command of a defensive battle. Much quicker that way.
phonicsmonkey
06-28-2011, 00:05
A small force of Mounted Poles are attempting to relieve their King by attacking Theodericus der Bartige, who is himself sallying
Wow, action everywhere this turn. Go get 'em Margrave!
The Celtic Viking
06-28-2011, 01:50
Yeah, and hey! The turn isn't even over yet. Zagreb is now being assaulted! (It's a captain vs. captain battle though.)
phonicsmonkey
06-28-2011, 01:54
Zagreb is now being assaulted! (It's a captain vs. captain battle though.)
Oh, I thought Von Essen was at Zagreb...perhaps he's lurking nearby instead..do we look like we'll lose that battle?
The Celtic Viking
06-28-2011, 02:10
As you may know already, I know very little about M2TW or LtC (or auto-calcing in general for that matter), so it's hard for me to tell, but I think we might just lose. They outnumber us in everything and in total by almost 250; most of their infantry are also being of ever so slightly higher quality better than ours thanks to 1 chevron, and one that looks very good indeed (15 attack IIRC). The in-game balance-o-meter says 1:1, though.
phonicsmonkey
06-28-2011, 02:17
Hmmm, we might be alright - defenders tend to be favoured in siege defence when the odds are equal-ish...
I was one tile away from the sieging army, apparently the wrong tile to reinforce from...
phonicsmonkey
06-28-2011, 03:53
I was one tile away from the sieging army, apparently the wrong tile to reinforce from...
doh! well let's hope the defenders can fight them off...either that or you can just retake the city and sack it again for more cash
It's the bigger stack with cav that's more of a worry right?
The sieging stack could be a problem if I lose the troops in Zagreb, but I do recall a bigger one nearby. I took too long checking up on something before I could take the save and hire some mercs to fight off the siegers. I'll consider myself lucky if none of those stacks attack me before the turn ends.
doh! well let's hope the defenders can fight them off...either that or you can just retake the city and sack it again for more cash
It's the bigger stack with cav that's more of a worry right?
Nightbringer
07-07-2011, 01:27
So has anyone seen our good Margrave's controller, the Celtic Viking?
He seems to have gone missing.
phonicsmonkey
07-07-2011, 02:17
TCV is online right now if you need him for something.
But I think this game is currently with Cecil, if that's what you were asking. He told me yesterday he'd be moving the game along today.
The Celtic Viking
07-07-2011, 02:42
You wish I was missing, but you won't get rid of me that easily. Cecil does indeed have the save, but if there's something else you want from me, just ask and I might oblige.
phonicsmonkey
07-07-2011, 02:53
You wish I was missing, but you won't get rid of me that easily.
ROFL
Nightbringer
07-07-2011, 05:46
:)
I do wish it, but isn't the turn waiting on you to fight a battle?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?130207-V-amp-V-Saves-and-Turn-by-Turn-Reports/page12
phonicsmonkey
07-07-2011, 05:52
No, he fought that already and sent the save to Cecil as I understand it.
Cecil XIX
07-07-2011, 22:14
Yes, that's correct. Working on the save now, BTW.
Nightbringer
07-07-2011, 23:04
ahh ok, no problem then :)
Cecil XIX
07-07-2011, 23:45
This is a bit out of the blue, but I seem to remember incidents in the past where a general has died without there being a clear indicator as to why or when. Can anybody remember when/if this has happened?
EDIT: As might have been supposed, this is related to a possible problem with the save that needs to be resolved before it can posted.
phonicsmonkey
07-08-2011, 02:17
I'm in shock! I swear I was still alive at the end of that battle.
What should we do? Go with it? Replay?
phonicsmonkey
07-08-2011, 03:14
Bad news guys, unless we want to live in a world where the Margrave is next in line to the throne I'm going to have to replay my battle to correct this apparent bug.
Which means you guys also need to replay...
I'll get onto it asap tonight when I get home from work.
Isn't the Margrave outside the royal family? :clown:
On the family tree tag does it say what the Prince "died" from?
phonicsmonkey
07-08-2011, 04:02
Isn't the Margrave outside the royal family? :clown:
On the family tree tag does it say what the Prince "died" from?
in battle apparently - and like I say he was alive at the end of my battle, check the screenshots in the battle reports thread!
The Celtic Viking
07-17-2011, 14:40
Did we get a notification of a captain turning traitor this turn, because captain Jobst with half my troops appears to have disappeared off the face of the planet. Did someone accidentally move him or has he just disappeared?
I looked around but saw no rebel army.
*Whistles innocently*
Nightbringer
07-17-2011, 21:33
*Whistles innocently*
Did you do something with them? :)
The Celtic Viking
07-17-2011, 22:35
Would I have whistled innocently if I had? :clown:
Nightbringer
07-18-2011, 06:08
Would I have whistled innocently if I had? :clown:
Yes
But in the interest of the game, should I just play my turn and accept that they disappeared for IC reasons rather than some kind of glitch or accident?
phonicsmonkey
07-18-2011, 06:49
Where were they NB?
Nightbringer
07-18-2011, 10:12
A bit north of Innsbruck I believe.
I can confirm that any captain led army that moved north of Innsbruck last turn was nowhere to be seen by the very very first save of this one. If one of the players did pull something, it was before the first official save of the turn.
phonicsmonkey
07-19-2011, 00:19
I can confirm that any captain led army that moved north of Innsbruck last turn was nowhere to be seen by the very very first save of this one. If one of the players did pull something, it was before the first official save of the turn.
Yes, and NB played last in the last turn.
I think we need the big man in the sky to weigh in here - Cecil, can you work out what happened to our army?
Nightbringer
07-19-2011, 02:32
Here is an image of the army at the end of the last turn.
http://s3.postimage.org/hvoqu03o/kingdoms_2011_07_18_18_30_01_66.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/hvoqu03o/)
phonicsmonkey
07-19-2011, 02:43
He looks like a defector to me...
Nightbringer
07-19-2011, 05:36
I looked around as much as I could and saw no rebel army, but maybe.
Still, can you just confirm you weren't involved celticviking so I can proceed. (I know you were saying you would attack me so I was thinking maybe it disappeared for IC reasons that you are cecil worked out)
The Celtic Viking
07-19-2011, 19:05
I have absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever. They were either bribed, disbanded by Cecil, removed in some other way or it's simply some strange bug. Whatever it is, I know no more about it than you.
Nightbringer
07-19-2011, 20:27
I have absolutely nothing to do with it whatsoever. They were either bribed, disbanded by Cecil, removed in some other way or it's simply some strange bug. Whatever it is, I know no more about it than you.
Okay thanks, I had figured that was the case but you whistling made you seem very suspicious.
Cecil XIX
07-19-2011, 22:08
Looking at the saves I have no idea whether this disappearance is a legitimate part of the game, the result of a bug, or something else. Regardless though, it can be fixed at the beginning of next turn so we should keep things moving. Does anybody have any opinions?
phonicsmonkey
07-19-2011, 23:01
Looking at the saves I have no idea whether this disappearance is a legitimate part of the game, the result of a bug, or something else. Regardless though, it can be fixed at the beginning of next turn so we should keep things moving. Does anybody have any opinions?
It'd be great if you could fix it if it's a bug. I agree we should continue and maybe NB should just tell you where he was planning to move them.
Nightbringer
07-20-2011, 01:15
okay, will be able to play my turn in ~7 hours. Sorry for delaying things with this.
I was going to move them east to join up with my main army.
phonicsmonkey
07-20-2011, 01:25
NB, Cecil hasn't recorded the sacking florins from Milan. Your Reichsmarschall should have another 3k or so to spend. Just a heads-up for you so you can recruit if necessary.
Cecil XIX
07-25-2011, 18:17
I've pinpointed the timing of the disappearance to between Leopold and Heinrich's battles. Since this was during the AI turns, I'm ruling it as a defection, not a bug.
What an oddly shaped HRE.
Cecil XIX
07-28-2011, 06:51
What an oddly shaped HRE.
I'd wager that's Vienna's obscene wealth making it's mark on the World Stage.
phonicsmonkey
07-28-2011, 07:10
What an oddly shaped HRE.
You mean what a wonderfully shaped austro-Hungarian empire?
Hmmm, attempt to whittle down a nearly all horse archer army over a few sallies, or wait them out and hope their numerical superiority leads them to stupidly assaulting with said nearly all HA army...
phonicsmonkey
07-29-2011, 01:54
Hmmm, attempt to whittle down a nearly all horse archer army over a few sallies, or wait them out and hope their numerical superiority leads them to stupidly assaulting with said nearly all HA army...
Option 2 is lower risk and we might be able to organize a rescue.
Nightbringer
07-29-2011, 06:06
The Reichsmarshall is headed in that direction and should be able to get there in ~2-3 seasons,
If they didn't have so many ranged I'd go for it. Ah well.
Help me Marshal Herden, you're my only hope. :clown:
Option 2 is lower risk and we might be able to organize a rescue.
phonicsmonkey
08-01-2011, 05:15
erm, are only austrians still playing this game?
Nightbringer
08-01-2011, 07:08
Huzzah!!
We win!
If that is the case I say we hold a vote to rename it the Holy Austrian Empire.
Nightbringer
08-01-2011, 23:00
If that is the case I say we hold a vote to rename it the Holy Austrian Empire.
How about the Audacious Austrian Autocracy?
The Celtic Viking
08-02-2011, 15:11
More like The Holy Margravate plus the fools to the south.
Cecil XIX
08-09-2011, 23:19
Everyone, I'm sorry to say that after a lot of thinking I've come to conclusion that I just don't have the time necessary to give to V&V. It's unfortunate, but real life is demanding more and more of my time. I'm grateful that so many people where willing to give the game a try, and I hope that it was as worthwhile for everyone as it was for me.
All that being said, I'd like to end things with a bang. Who's interested in a nice PvP war?
The Celtic Viking
08-10-2011, 02:07
Totally understandable. I mean, hell, the Margrave's old and would soon die anyway, and after that, what would be the point in going on? Thanks for the time you put in, Cecil. It's been a lot of fun.
All that being said, I'd like to end things with a bang. Who's interested in a nice PvP war?
Ba-da-bing, ba-da-BOOM! You're talking my kind of language now. How would you do it, though? Will you go by the present situation and pit me against the world, or will you switch things around to give my enemies a fighting chance? :wink3:
It was fun while it lasted. At least I managed to hang on to my third character. :clown:
Everyone having complete control of their settlement income was a agreat idea, although it seemed like it was tough on the gm.
I'm up for a pvp battle, although with most avatars being Austrians it would be tough to have even sides. We could have the Prince rebelling against the Emperor, although I'm not sure that's very in character.
Nightbringer
08-10-2011, 06:58
I too had a great time and completely understand the situation Cecil. I would be up for pvp but wouldn't feel cheated without it. This game will give me good memories (except of the margrave) :) and I hope to get another opportunity for a game like it.
Thank you cecil!
phonicsmonkey
08-10-2011, 22:39
Thanks for all your hard work Cecil! I had a great time and it has inspired me to try other games like this in the future.
It's a shame it has to end but to be honest I'd probably favor just letting it go without a pvp battle. It just doesn't seem convincing to me that these characters in this situation would suddenly turn on each other. Unless it's all against the Margrave which would hardly be fair.
GeneralHankerchief
08-12-2011, 21:43
Echoing the others above, thanks for everything you've done in the past year, Cecil! :bow:
If we really do want a PvP, I could just have the Kaiser go bat:daisy: crazy, he's kind of been building up to it for a while anyway. :laugh4: We can work on further justifications from there.
If we decide a pvp doesn't make sense maybe each of us could do a short story on their character's thoughts as the game comes to a close?
Cecil XIX
08-15-2011, 00:29
Upon further reflection, I've decided not to end things with a PvP war. Some time in the future I would like to test the V&V rules in a smaller, more less open-ended scenario like the King of the Franks game, but that won't be for a while now.
Everyone, thank you for your kind words. Again, I'm thankful for the time everyone put into playing this game. As most of you are probably aware, there is another TW RPG running called Kings of the Nile (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?370-KotN), and I encourage everyone to join it if you're still anxious to participate in this unique type of game.
Finally, I encourage you all to contribute a final story for your characters, either working alone or together. Thank you everyone!
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