M2TW 1.3 Hotseat - Glorious Achievements (Completed, winner Silvershield)

[SilverShield]

theres some unusual thing . i attacked the spanish army from within the fort and again with another unit. after that battle the spanish army moved to where it is now. thats an error or good?

http://i53.tinypic.com/ztyi6h.jpg


https://i52.tinypic.com/105s3mo.jpg


im not making it back to my crip again today im having this up tomorrow

[phonicsmonkey]

Looks like you have him boxed in and he can't escape.

Usually that would mean he would be destroyed though (like the surround and destroy bug) so I'm not sure what happened here.

Does it matter much? After all we're finishing up at the end of this turn so he won't get a chance to strike back, will he?

If you are worried about attacking him again I'd just go for it, seems fair to me.

[Zim]

I've had armies in single player games retreat a pathetic number of squares. Quite frustrating when the army that beat them the first time moves to finish them off. It seems to be somewhat related to how much move they have left, but not consistently.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

those dang Hungarians just keep popping up out of nowhere, oh well :p

You'd think the army would have retreat to the boat

[Rougeman]

looks like it was trying to get to the spanish territory in the south

[SilverShield]

alright i kept to it. the balista i used wasnt making it through but there was one. despite venice gone on my board i still got spain ahead of france with 4 points overall


france up
http://depositfiles.com/files/hip3gsg4y

[phonicsmonkey]

ok, this turn (France) is the last of the game.

Next turn (41) we will claim achievements and then I'll judge the winner.

Please tell me which achievements you are claiming from the list in the first thread and post screenshots as evidence.

[Nightbringer]

Will play my turn tomorrow, been too busy today.

[Nightbringer]

Okay, here is the turn for england. Are you going to open up the save here, or do we scroll through. In other words, do buildings that finish on turn 41 count for achievements.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9598

[phonicsmonkey]

yeah, buildings /units which are complete on 41 count.

we can just scroll through one by one taking screenies and claiming our achievements. then if I need to I can go back and look.

[SilverShield]

so we got a score here? is it spain or france

[Zim]

So we're just scrolling through our turns without doing anything to see what achievements we may have managed?

Spain
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=9607

I doubt England managed any achievements but I haven't seen anyone claim most florins at the end of the game yet, so I might as well try it.

https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/medieval220111011171513.jpg/

[phonicsmonkey]

...most florins at the end of the game

We call that Richest Faction. You might also have a shot at Highest income - care to post your financial screen so I can check?

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I'm not going to get a chance to too look at this till probably tomorrow evening at the earliest, but is there any reason we can't just pass all the turns around so that everybody can be working on calculating their score at the same time? It's not like we're playing anything on this turn, just calculating and taking ss of achievments, right?

[Zim]

Eh, I rather doubt I managed the Highest Income achievement. England is not that well developed.


We call that Richest Faction. You might also have a shot at Highest income - care to post your financial screen so I can check?

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm not going to get a chance to too look at this till probably tomorrow evening at the earliest, but is there any reason we can't just pass all the turns around so that everybody can be working on calculating their score at the same time? It's not like we're playing anything on this turn, just calculating and taking ss of achievments, right?

No, except for the fact that the passwords are still set so we can't just scroll through unless I clear them. I can't do that until Saturday.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Rum

2839

Depending on what achievements people focused on, this could be anybodies game, Spain took some heavy losses this last turn. So how are we going to determine largest standing navy and army?

[phonicsmonkey]

By upkeep I reckon. Aren't you claiming any achievements? I was expecting lists and screenshots.

[Myth]

I claim the achievment of having the most dead Family Members :clown:

[Thanatos Eclipse]

By upkeep I reckon. Aren't you claiming any achievements? I was expecting lists and screenshots.

I just posted the turn so you could pass it on if you wanted. I'm hoping to get a chance to compile that tonight, if not tomorrow.

[phonicsmonkey]

Egypt is attached here.

also attached are some screenshots.

I'm trying for:
* Most income per turn Faction (16083)
* Largest Navy (upkeep 1932)
* Most advanced religious building (Level 3)
* Most advanced Armory building (Level 3)
* Most spies of any faction (3)
* Most assassins of any faction (2)
* Most merchants of any faction (3)
* Most generals of any faction (10)
* Most religious agents of any faction (2)
* Highest Dread General (4)
* Highest Chivalry General (4)
* Highest Command General (6)
* Highest Influence General (4)
* Highest Loyalty General (6)
* Highest experience general unit (3 bronze)

[SilverShield]

man u claimed a lot already

16k+ a turn probably is a sho in. the navy also. and probably the 2 buildings. i mean the only level 3 cities been italy and they been pretty wasted so u probably knocked that on up. generals also. france and i lost too many already and spain lost 2 last turn. maybe spain still got enough but the lost of those last turn probably is putting u ahead there. Zim is down for the richest faction for sure

[Visor]

yeah, buildings /units which are complete on 41 count.

Then technically, would settlements captured on turn 41 count? I have two under siege that would be taken this turn, and nothing can stop me from taking them.



* Highest Influence General (7)
* Highest experience general unit (2 silver)
* Most wars won against faction of another religion (1 HRE?)
* Greatest Income from one city (2251 Alexandria VH Taxes)
* Greatest Population in one city (16123 Cairo)
* Most advanced Infantry building (Level 3 City Watch)
* Most alliances (Tied with Hungary and Turks, Eastern alliance. :tongue:)
* Highest Total Population (64656 people)
Infrastructure: 73
One or two others as well.


A few non game achievments I'm proud of:
* Not losing a general in battle, both my first two sultans died of old age. The rest are still alive.
* Not losing my navy completely.
* Retaking eastern Hungary (I was going to create an eastern empire with my army. :D)
* Being a good ally. :P
* Surviving, achieving the eastern alliance goal.
* A few others, maybe, to go here later
* Being sucessful in war. :D

A question in relation to some achievements. For example, highest income of a settlement, is that the highest possible income you can get from a settlement? I.E. if you have a settlement on low taxes, and change it to VH taxes on this turn, will it count? Is this valid?

[phonicsmonkey]

Then technically, would settlements captured on turn 41 count?

Nope, the game ended at the end of turn 40.


I.E. if you have a settlement on low taxes, and change it to VH taxes on this turn, will it count? Is this valid?

Yeah, highest possible income.

[Visor]

Nope, the game ended at the end of turn 40.
:( Okay, gotta readust figures.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

For the most income per turn acheivement, is that number your profit for the turn or just your base income? Also, I assume we're using the projected numbers in the Finance window? I ask this cause I just noticed that the turn summary doesn't pop up for me in this mod and wasn't sure if that was normal.

Edit: For cities captured, is that counting all you have captured over the course of the game, or just the number of cities you control now minus the ones you started with?

Edit: Do walls/castles count towards infrastructure?

[phonicsmonkey]

For the most income per turn acheivement, is that number your profit for the turn or just your base income?

Gross Income, not net profit.


Also, I assume we're using the projected numbers in the Finance window?

Yes


For cities captured, is that counting all you have captured over the course of the game, or just the number of cities you control now minus the ones you started with?

erm....the second, because some people might not have tracked the first.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Iberian Followers of Lucifer

Most income per turn - 29,375
Most Populace Faction - 93,983
Largest Navy - 4,766
Largest Standing Army - 13,255
Most Advanced Infantry Recruitment Building - Tier 3 (Tied)
Most Advanced Calvary Recruitment Building - Tier 2
Most Advanced Artillery Recruitment Building - Tier 1
Most Advanced Archery Recruitment Building - Tier 2
Most Advanced Religious building - Tier 3 (Tied)
Most advanced port - Tier 2
Most Advanced Trade Building - Tier 3
Most advanced Administrative (town hall) building - Tier 1
Most advanced Spy/Assassin building - Tier 1
Most guild buildings - 1
Greatest income from one city - 2768 (Cordoba, Taxes on VH)
Greatest Public Order in One City - 185% (Toulouse)
Infrastructure - 125 (without counting walls/castles)
Most Merchants - 5
Most Diplomats - 1
Most religious Agents - 2 (Tied)
Highest Dread General - 5
Highest Command General - 5
Highest Loyalty General - 10
Most Battles Won - 72
Most Cities Captured - 22
Factions Defeated - 2 (Moors and Portugal)
Most Cardinals/ piety 5 imam/orthodox priest - 2
Wars won against factions of another religion - 1 (Moors)
Highest experience non-general unit - 3 bronze

Figure I'll easily lose some of these but no one else has posted on them yet :)

A few screenshots
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2864&d=1318822436https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2865&d=1318822436https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2866&d=1318822436

[phonicsmonkey]

Impressive list - I can see some in there already where I have beaten you based on my earlier post but we'll wait for the others to post theirs before I summarize.

[Visor]

Most wars won against faction of another religion (1 HRE?)
Add Byzzies as well, or?

Oh and btw, Silver, you can play off my save. I've had no password for a LONG time.

[SilverShield]

alright thats what i got


income per turn 6727

population 78486

army 13769


infantry level 3

cav level 1

art level 1

arch level 1

religios level 2

port level 2

trade level 2

admin level 1

strip clubs level 1

armor level 1

guild if the ones i got offered this turn counts its 2 otherwise 1

also got a fortress next to vienna if that counts


most populous city 18013

income 2779

order 225


spies 8

merchants 8

diplomats 2


generals 11

most dread 7

chivalry 3

command 8

influence got no idea how thats determined

loyality 10


alliances 2

battles won 79

cities captured like total territories controlled right now? thats 18. total captures non trackable kinda

generals slain is the same

factions killed 2 - east rome, hre

of other religion 1 - east rome

cardinal level 8



experience general 2 gold

experience regular unit 1 gold


infrastructure 86 city level walls and castle levels non counted

[phonicsmonkey]

strip clubs level 1

:laugh4: I'm surprised you didn't spend more time upgrading them.

ok I'll just wait for NB to post his (when he fixes his computer I guess) and then I'll work out who has won this thing.

[Nightbringer]

okay, got my comp fixed, but I need the save file. :)

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm on my way home now, watch this space for it

[phonicsmonkey]

here it is NB

[Nightbringer]

I claim...

most religious agents: 5
most guilds: 2 (tied)
highest influence (if you mean authority): 8
and...
well, I think that's all I got. See, I told you I wouldn't win. :)


Although maybe if I hadn't been stabbed in the back...

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Who would go and do something like that...

[phonicsmonkey]

Ok, this is what I have so far.

Silver is winning with 22 achievements to Thanatos' 19, as follows:



Silver:

army 13769
Most Advanced Infantry Recruitment Building - Tier 3 (Tied)
Most Advanced Artillery Recruitment Building - Tier 1 (tied)
Most advanced Spy/Assassin building - Tier 1 (Tied)
Most advanced port - Tier 2 (tied)
Most guild buildings – 1 (tied)
most populous city 18013
Greatest income from one city – 2779
Greatest Public Order in One City – 225
Most spies of any faction (8)
Most Merchants - 8
Most Diplomats – 2
generals - 11
Highest Dread General – 7
Highest Command General – 8
Highest Loyalty General – 10 (Tied)
Most alliances (Tied)
Most Battles Won – 79
Factions defeated – 2 (tied)
against factions of another religion – 1 (Tied)
experience general 2 gold
experience regular unit 1 gold


Thanatos:

Most income per turn - 29,375
Most Populace Faction - 93,983
Largest Navy - 4,766
Most Advanced Infantry Recruitment Building - Tier 3 (Tied)
Most Advanced Calvary Recruitment Building - Tier 2
Most Advanced Artillery Recruitment Building - Tier 1 (Tied)
Most Advanced Archery Recruitment Building - Tier 2
Most Advanced Religious building - Tier 3 (Tied)
Most advanced port - Tier 2 (Tied)
Most Advanced Trade Building - Tier 3
Most advanced Administrative (town hall) building - Tier 1
Most advanced Spy/Assassin building - Tier 1 (Tied)
Most guild buildings – 1 (tied)
Infrastructure - 125 (without counting walls/castles)
Highest Loyalty General – 10 (Tied)
Most Cities Captured - 22
Factions Defeated - 2 (Moors and Portugal)
Most Cardinals/ piety 5 imam/orthodox priest - 2
Wars won against factions of another religion – 1 (tied)


In bronze medal position is my good self with 5, Visor and NB are next with 3 and Zim brings up the rear with 1

Visor:

* Most wars won against faction of another religion (1 HRE?) (Tied)
* Most advanced Infantry building (Level 3 City Watch)
* Most alliances (Tied with Hungary and Turks, Eastern alliance. )

Me:

* Most advanced religious building (Level 3) (Tied)
* Most advanced Armory building (Level 3)
* Most assassins of any faction (2))
* Highest Chivalry General (4)
* Most alliances (Tied)

Zim:

Richest faction

NB:

most religious agents: 5
most guilds: 2 (tied)
highest influence (if you mean authority): 8

Do you guys want another 24 hours just to doublecheck in case you have other achievements you haven't claimed, before I declare Silver the winner?

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I claimed everything I could, congrats Silver :)

[phonicsmonkey]

congratulations Silvershield, you are the winner!

Now, what did everyone think of this style of game? Did it work? Did you care about achievements or were they an afterthought? Would you try a game like this again? If so, what would you change?

For my own part I didn't really seriously think about achievements until about ten turns out when I started looking to see what I could specialise in to grab a few. At that point it was obvious I wasn't going to win but I thought I'd work towards a couple and I found it fun to do so. I could have played it differently but after Tri killed me off in four turns I felt a stronger motivation to take out the HRE in revenge (although as I have said Myth I would have packed up and gone home if you had agreed to hand Italy over to Sicily).

I'd give this another go sometime if others were interested.

I will never play another hotseat in vanilla though...waaaay too slow!

[Myth]

Vanilla sucks with the MP of your units... I liked the game, but having inherited a broke and too spread out empire, as well as one that completely lacked ballistae in a fought battles/no restriction game was too disappointing. I'd participate so long as I can develop my nation from turn 1, with achievements in mind.

[Cecil XIX]

I will never play another hotseat in vanilla though...waaaay too slow!

That's what Lands to Conquer is for! Also, congratulations Silvershield!

[Visor]

Congrats Silver!

[SilverShield]

kinda unexpected but good thing nonetheless. though without spain attacking france france probably had won this. but anyway it was good game. def had some good moments. thx to u guys for keeping my back. we ve been a good team