Order Of The Stick Mafia [Concluded]

[Beskar]

Bottom line, Beskar is a bad townie, or he's motivated by his scum alignment.

Erm.... no. I am not "bad" townie.

What about you? You walk around with a stick in your ear pretending you rule the world. Let's look at your votes.

D1 - You voted a Haley from the Order on Round 1 and got them lynched, randomly swapping votes for no reason at all. (Haley was most likely pro-town too, OOPS!)
D2 - Instead of great reasoning by Beskar, you mention that autolycus is most likely innocent. You finally get convinced to unvote an innocent (me) and vote a different innocent (Seon). (Great Going, LOL)
D3 - You jump on a bandwagon and lynch Cecil, you contributed nothing else other than flip more votes than a flipping seal.

So if I am "bad" townie, what does this make you?

At least I admit I have no abilities at all and working on pure guesswork. You talk as if you know the entire game when it is so far from the truth, you past Uranus and currently on Pluto.

The mafia are either God Emperor or Renata.

[Romanic]

:laugh4:

I'm not going to debate why I am a better townie than you in this game Beskar. It's so obviously true that I would only be wasting my time.

[Secura]

You walk around with a stick in your ear pretending you rule the world.

And that's how the Order of the Stick was formed. :P

[Beskar]

I'm not going to debate why I am a better townie than you in this game Beskar. It's so obviously false that I would only be wasting my time.

I agree entirely with the correction.


And that's how the Order of the Stick was formed. :P

Touché

[God Emperor]

let's see..

Renata has made a lot of posts which says absolutely nothing - is that normal of her?


Has it really been that long? *boggles*


Now there's an idea. *takes notes*

Thanks, DE.


Miko's been a bad, bad girl.


Also, lol.

I still love you, Miko, even if you were actually Belkar.

Best strategy, never fails.

She gave Cecil a vote that put him in the lead on round one.. that is a good vote , though it may be placed to distance herself. not sure about that though.

Yarapolk has been lurking the entire game and only to show up when a vote was placed on him.. Does anyone knows his normal style ? There isn't much else to say about him I think

Beskar.. well I have said many times over what I think about what he is doing in this game. . . else I would second what Romanic wrote just before.
I spoke with Beskar in private about his 'now with autolycus dead, I am cleared' . . what he meant was apparently that he was clear of the murder on... classical hero(?) , which would be true.

ATPG never struck me as off in this game.. and iirc he said YLC playes like he is always playing when he is town.. YLC has hardly made any posts in this game.

Then there is Romanic. only made one thing which struck me is strange, and that was how quickly he took his vote off -- Beskar I think it was. However all the rest of his play seems like how he is when he is town.

did I miss out anyone ? anyway it's imo down to those 3; Renata, Yarapolk, Beskar

[robbiecon]

I assure you Beskar, that Romanic has been exceptional behind the scenes.

Also, GE, Yaropolk is accounted for. He, like myself has been more active behind the scenes than in-thread, but he's been a useful asset too.

[God Emperor]

right I completely forgot about you robbie ! you have been almost gone from the gamethread as well. What have the behind-the-scenes activity been about? and how come you are in contact with Yarapolk ?

[Romanic]

I assure you Beskar, that Romanic has been exceptional behind the scenes.

Also, GE, Yaropolk is accounted for. He, like myself has been more active behind the scenes than in-thread, but he's been a useful asset too.

I don't know if I can slap you hard enough for revealing this. :laugh4:

[Beskar]

This is my behind the scenes with Romanic and others, in short:

R - "Are you mafia?"
B - "No, I am vanilla town role with no abilities."

R - "It is obvious you killed Winston Hughes"
B - "Not really, if anything, it is obvious it isn't, especially since he flipped over a first round vote."

R - "Why are you voting Autolycus? He is most likely innocent."
B - "He evidently isn't innocent (lists reasons I already said in thread)"
R - "Oh, okay, I still think he is town."

R - "Did you investigate me last night and tell Renata?"
B - "No, I have no abilities"
R - "You always talk to Renata"

They were great in-depth conversations. These are my other ones.

S - "Awww, I am vanilla townie again. :( :( :("

and

GE - "You are mafia, because you are mafia, like in Council of Villians and Lylat Wars"
B - "I was a neutral in Lylat Wars"
GE - "Still, you are scum"
B - "Okay"

and

Pizza - "You are going to be investigated tonight, if you are cleared, I know who the mafia is."
B - "Well, I am innocent, but if you really want to go ahead..."

and

Renata - "I'm tired, How are you?"
B - "I am fine thanks, how is it going?"

and

YLC - "I have to admit Beskar, you are a hero of mine, can I have an autograph?"
B - "Sure."
YLC - "PUNKED!!"

[Secura]

S - "Awww, I am vanilla townie again. :( :( :("

True story!

[Romanic]

:laugh4:

I think it would be interesting to post the chat logs, to show how Beskar is misrepresenting what was actually said, but who cares? This is typically Beskar.

[robbiecon]

I don't know if I can slap you hard enough for revealing this. :laugh4:

I think you need this:

[Beskar]

Only the YLC one was made up. The others are just short versions.

Anyway, according to Pizza, I would have been investigated. Since there is no one claiming they investigated me and I am guilty, pretty sure sign I am not the mafia.

[Yaropolk]

unvote; vote:Renata

[Askthepizzaguy]

I claimed Beskar was going to be investigated because I wanted to see if the investigator would die or if I would, or what.

I also wanted to see his reaction, like God Emperor's when I claimed I was going to vig him.

I am not a believer in truth-telling except where I think it's actually useful to do so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Does anyone have any evidence clearing Renata? My PM box is open.

[God Emperor]

I didn't check the tally, but I believe Renata is in the lead. making room for a change of heart Vote: Beskar

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't check the tally, but I believe Renata is in the lead. making room for a change of heart Vote: Beskar

This is why I think you're the Godfather. Just know, I will be voting for you next round, and I'm not buying investigation results on you, taking them in any way as exonerating.

[God Emperor]

investigation results ?

Edit: and do you believe it's wrong not to make runaway bandwagons ? I thought that was the lesson learned from the previous games

[Askthepizzaguy]

investigation results ?

Edit: and do you believe it's wrong not to make runaway bandwagons ? I thought that was the lesson learned from the previous games

Yes, of course. I just believe that it is now being used as an excuse for people to openly support their mafia partner, under the guise of lessons learned.

Situations change, scumtells are updated to reflect the new situation.

[Renata]

How about investigation results on me? Would have been nice.

It's Sunday, I can't defend myself in volume and could not even review the thread yesterday to see who struck me as suspicious. If two votes on Cecil aren't enough to clear me, I don't know what is.

I hate weekends. Go ahead and lynch me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How about investigation results on me? Would have been nice.

It's Sunday, I can't defend myself in volume and could not even review the thread yesterday to see who struck me as suspicious. If two votes on Cecil aren't enough to clear me, I don't know what is.

I hate weekends. Go ahead and lynch me.

Well, if it is any consolation, the investigation results on you were that you are Sabine, of the Linear Guard; an evil succubus.

http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/Sabine

Bussing one's partner doesn't clear you, in a small game it is one of the few tactics which can be used with moderate success.

I know you hate weekends, and I know you hate not being able to give a right and proper defense. And if you turn out to be not mafia, I'll have the head of the person who accused you.

This is why I dislike investigator roles unless they're absolutely necessary. You're too much fun to have solidly concrete data on. It spoils the mystery.

[Renata]

vote: Renata

I'm done. Maybe I'll play mafia again in a month or two.

[Beskar]

Okay, that is a confession from Renata then.

God Emperor is getting lynched tomorrow if game continues, evidently was trying to save her.


(Also, guess what Romanic, I voted a mafia and you voted a town again! You sure play better townie than me. :wink: )

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, that is a confession from Renata then.

God Emperor is getting lynched tomorrow if game continues, evidently was trying to save her.

Game will continue, I'm pretty sure. The game setup seems to necessitate several mafia to make up for an investigator.

[Beskar]

Game will continue, I'm pretty sure. The game setup seems to necessitate several mafia to make up for an investigator.

How powerful is this investigation then? It seems it can provide a role role reveal.

I prefer the investigations in my game, they aren't absolute.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How powerful is this investigation then? It seems it can provide a role role reveal.

I prefer the investigations in my game, they aren't absolute.

I still believe for game balance it will fail eventually, or the investigator will be killed.

But I've done enough WIFOM'ing for one day. I'm sure the mafia will kill me eventually, especially if I keep claiming to be powerful and then not dying.

[Renata]

Game will continue, I'm pretty sure. The game setup seems to necessitate several mafia to make up for an investigator.

You'd think, wouldn't you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You'd think, wouldn't you.

Well, there was a serial killer.... that makes things harder on the mafia as it is.

Even if they allied to rid themselves of the town, they have to turn on each other eventually, and the question is when. And then, if it is 1 mafioso versus 1 serial killer, the mafia still loses.

No matter what, serial killers tend to be bad for the mafia unless they get lucky. 1 SK balances a game with 3 mafiosi in favor of the town due to crossfire.

Adding power roles to the town will make it harder on the mafia (already disadvantaged) and the serial killer (who always has the lowest chance of success anyway).

You can see why I am not a fan of investigators.

[Secura]

I'm done. Maybe I'll play mafia again in a month or two.

*hug*

Hopefully you'll not follow through with this statement. :3

[Renata]

Well, there was a serial killer.... that makes things harder on the mafia as it is.

Even if they allied to rid themselves of the town, they have to turn on each other eventually, and the question is when. And then, if it is 1 mafioso versus 1 serial killer, the mafia still loses.

No matter what, serial killers tend to be bad for the mafia unless they get lucky. 1 SK balances a game with 3 mafiosi in favor of the town due to crossfire.

Adding power roles to the town will make it harder on the mafia (already disadvantaged) and the serial killer (who always has the lowest chance of success anyway).

You can see why I am not a fan of investigators.

This is all true.

[Askthepizzaguy]

*hug*

Hopefully you'll not follow through with this statement. :3

I loves you, Renata. Believe me, I take no joy in this. I like to work based off of very little, and play head games. Investigation results are just reflexive votes afterward, and as explained in the Star wars game, kills the discussion.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So anyways, mister investigator, your services will no longer be necessary. You couldn't have found the Godfather through scans anyway, as he's scan immune as we suspected. If he's being honest, he cannot recruit and he should be the last of them. He has low strength and a basic killing power. Elan/God Emperor is Nale, as we figured. It is dangerous to rely too much on detectives. Sometimes you need to do a little sleuthing of your own.

Renata's the better lynch as she is stronger and we already have the votes.


Good game, God Emperor, Renata, and Cecil. Town actually did a reasonable job this time, I am impressed; sorry about the bad luck, I didn't think your play was that bad actually. The detective plus the Serial Killer, and other roles, made this game very difficult for you.

I am surprised we lost our mason team to WOG, but we really didn't even need them at all. Almost lost more than that as well, right YLC? :laugh4:

[Beskar]

Wait, you mean I was right with God Emperor as well?!

:laugh4: Poor Romanic, He couldn't hit a mafia with a stick, even if they were a broad side of a barn.

[Secura]

He couldn't hit a mafia with a stick, even if they were a broad side of a barn.

And that's how the Order of the Stick gets their kicks!

[Renata]

My play was not that bad. Sooner or later I'm going to be lynched or nearly lynched on the basis of just such a thing as I did with the Secura vote (and be a townie), because my schedule is too unpredictable to play well and thoroughly ("like myself") every single day. I just can't do it. But I'm heartbroken and feeling guilty as hell for the slip I made. It's the second mafia game I've lost for my team single-handed in the space of a week or so; and the fourth loss or near-certain loss as mafia in the last few weeks. In that time I've been a townie three times, for a grand total of five days alive. I'm just tired of it all.

[Romanic]

unvote, vote: Renata

:charge:

[Diamondeye]

Day 4 ends
It's not over yet...

The fourth day in the palace had been plagued by a morbid silence. It was with a troubled air that Lord Hinjo ascended the stairs of the Throne Room and looked at the handful of survivors. He began, his voice shaking for the first time since Shojo's death:
"It has been decided that I be put to the sword. The laws of this investigation are equal for all, and I will not resist. I hope that my end will ease the investigation and let you apprehend the culprits behind my uncle's death."
Hinjo fell silent again. No-one moved. Then, finally, one of the paladins of the guard approached Hinjo, reaching to take Hinjo's sword to fulfill the judgement.

In the blink of an eye, Hinjo had sprouted leathery wings and taken flight, his eyes glowing an unnatural red.
"And if you believe that I go down without fighting, you're even more naive than I thought!"
Sabine lashed out with the sword and the paladin fell back, wounded. The rest of the group woke from their stupor and when to assist him against the succubus.

Despite their numbers, it looked as if the succubus would prevail. She quickly swooped down and picked up a lance before rising back up, ready to drive the point into anyone who closed in. She smiled victoriously.
"So that's how brave the paladins of the Sapphire Guard are? Why don't y-"
"Disintegrate!"
A ray of magical energy hit Sabine square in the chest, and she collapsed on the floor, weak but still conscious. She was quickly overrun by the remaining members of the group.
Renata was Lord Hinjo!
It was a cover role for Sabine of the Linear Guild!

Tally:
Renata: 6
Beskar: 1
Not voting: 1

With the imposter posing as Lord Hinjo gone, someone else had to assume control of the survivors. Vaarsavius of the Order of the Stick walked to the plateu, uncontested. He looked at them and spoke, briefly for once:
"We cannot with good conscience reunite with the outside world unless we are sure to have eliminated the entire group of perpetrators. I suggest we go about doing this as we have done so far. That is all."

The seven remaining people each left for their own chambers.

It is now night 4! Day breaks in roughly 23½ hours!
Remember to send in your night orders!

Alive (7):
Romanic
Beskar
YLC
God Emperor
Robbiecon
Yaropolk
AskThePizzaGuy

[Beskar]

Vote: God Emperor

[robbiecon]

Tis night Beskar, someone's enthusiastic. What I'm wondering, is how on earth did ATPG get a confession from God Emperor? Has he a backroom and a blowtorch?

[Secura]

He pretended to be something he's not; mafia and town alike have often fallen for that ploy.

[Beskar]

He donned the 'Belt of Femininity' to become "AskthePizzaGuy_in_drag" to seduce God Emperor. God Emperor failed his 'spot' check, and was easily tricked, as if he is Elan. Then again, he is Nale pretending to be Elan, so it works out following the plot afterall.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Tis night Beskar, someone's enthusiastic. What I'm wondering, is how on earth did ATPG get a confession from God Emperor? Has he a backroom and a blowtorch?

I can be very persuasive in lace.

[Diamondeye]

Night 4 Ends
The end is near...

In the fourth night, there was but a handful survivors. The recent deaths had greatly distressed the High Priest of the Twelve Gods, who now sat meditating in his room. He was brought out of his concentration when the door creaked, and he looked up nerveously.

A charming young man entered the room, surely to seek the counsel of the old priest. The old man smiled at the approaching stranger, too late realizing that he was concealing his left hand, and in it, a longsword.
"Good night, old man!"
The blow hit AskThePizzaGuy straight in the chest, and his old body was thrown to the hard floor, lethally wounded.

AskThePizzaGuy was The High Priest of the Twelve Gods! He was innocent!

Elan was sitting in his room, plinking at his lute quietly. He played so quietly, in fact, that he heard the footfalls of an approaching figure, and he looked up at the newcomer and smiled. "Hey V, what're you doing up so late?"
The elf frowned. He looked at the bard with a great and sad determination in his eyes.
"Aren't you right-handed, Elan?"
"Oh, uhm, well, I try to practice both of my hands equally. So the strings don't cut my skin too much."
"You fully well know you cannot become Ambidextrous without the proper feat, Elan."
"Oh-uh, really? I had no idea."
"I think you do, Nale."
"I... am Elan, V. You know, the good twin?"
"Prove it."
"How?"
"If you were Elan, you'd know how to. But I'll play along. Sing a song for me."
"Uhm, okay... Oh, How I-"
"Disintregrate!"
"Quickened Magic Missile!"
The magic attacks hammered against Elan's body.
"Damn you, Wizard! I'll get you!"
Nale got up, longsword in his left hand, and advanced on Vaarsavius, despite the heavy damage.
"Hold Person!"

A magic barrier surrounded Nale, holding him in place.
"Now, I think I'll call the others, shall I?"
"Sound Burst!"

A roaring wave of noise expanded from the room out into the entire palace. Soon, everyone came running. Vaarsavius stood unmoving, merely gesturing at the paralyzed Nale. Quickly, Durkon got up to him, and casted Detect Evil.
There could be no doubt; They had apprehended the leader of the Linear Guild.
God Emperor was Elan of the Order of the Stick!
It was a cover role for Nale of the Linear Guild!

Town Victory!

[Beskar]

Wait... it can't be right... the town hasn't won, Beskar is the mafia!

[robbiecon]

Good job Yaropolk!

[God Emperor]

Did yarapolk kill me ? :) good job.

Romanic was my favorite townie of the game .. very active and on guard :) we had many nice long talks :p

ATPG , we ofc had a fun talk in the end.. else you were not as active as I could have hoped :( oh well : >

Thanks for the game DE , it was a well chosen theme

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/5djtP8uA3h5 the mafia quick topic

[Secura]

Reading the QT makes me want to find God Emperor and Renata... and ruffle their hair. <3


I should stop playing this game. I'm too good at playing town and too poor at playing mafia; it's the worst possible combination for actual enjoyment. It's always in the mafia's interest to kill me early, and always in the town's to lynch me if I haven't been killed. Which means effectively that it is impossible for me to succeed even when I dont' screw up. Which I usually do, lately.

I know the feeling here; it's not fun at all, but don't stop playing because of it... I haven't. :3

[Yaropolk]

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Vaarsavius
"I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. Quickly, please, before they are out of range."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 10
Abilities: Scry - At night, you can keep watch over another player, detecting anyone who visit them in their sleep.
Disintegrate - You can also choose to attack another player, killing them if their strength is lower than yours. This permanently lowers your strength by 1, no matter the outcome of the attack.

You may only do one action every night.

Background:
Vaarsavius is the elven Wizard of the Order of the Stick, and the most powerful in terms of sheer firepower (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisintegratorRay). The downside of this is V's fragility in close combat (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GlassCannon), as well as his/her (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguousGender) load of weak spots - V is not physically strong or of good constitution, comes off as a distanced loner who often treats others to either a good deal of snarking and sarcasm (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadpanSnarker), or overly long speeches (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness) that exposes V's pride (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Pride) more than his/her actual intelligence (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsufferableGenius). V also seems to lack a high enough wisdom score to have developed a moral compass of any consquence (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AntiHero), although his time with the Order of the Stick is gradually beginning to repair at least the personal flaws, if not that of his stats.

V is in many ways an egocentric; he/she (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PronounTrouble) believes that, given enough time, he/she has the inteliigence and power to solve any problem. Obviously, things don't work out that way, which is why V is lucky to have the Order of the Stick around to help in times of need. V's underlying personality is still determined to do his/her best to solve every problem that the group encounters, however, and when faced by enemies who are out to kill you, logic quite clearly states that the best method of defense is a good attack (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MurderIsTheBestSolution); permanently disabling your enemies (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisproportionateRetribution) is a good way of making sure that they can never get back at you, and as V has the power to do so, it also falls as his/her responsibility.

Note that you are one of the very few characters in the game to have multiple abilities available to you. You may only use one every night.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.
I still want to know how ATPG coaxed a confession out of GE

[Askthepizzaguy]

I still want to know how ATPG coaxed a confession out of GE

Behold....





1/23/2011 8:10:14 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Hello
1/23/2011 8:10:23 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy hey :)
1/23/2011 8:11:06 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Well anyways. The cat is out of the bag, it seems, with regards to Renata.
1/23/2011 8:11:31 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy hmm ?
1/23/2011 8:11:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy ahh
1/23/2011 8:11:36 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy did you speak with her ?
1/23/2011 8:11:42 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor No.
1/23/2011 8:11:48 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor not outside of the thread anyway
1/23/2011 8:12:03 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy she is at least going to be lynched
1/23/2011 8:12:41 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yeah. I guess we shall see if our investigator is worth his salt.
1/23/2011 8:13:14 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy oh.. I was under the impression that the investigator talk with beskar was just bluff
1/23/2011 8:13:20 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor It was.
1/23/2011 8:13:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy like your vigilante kill on me :@
1/23/2011 8:13:30 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That too.
1/23/2011 8:13:35 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Wanted to see if you'd kill me.
1/23/2011 8:13:41 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy lol
1/23/2011 8:13:59 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy though tbh I properly would
1/23/2011 8:14:07 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You should.
1/23/2011 8:14:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yeah if it would negate a vigilante kill

Around this point, I noticed that God Emperor was more than a little concerned about his own life. More so than basic townie would suggest. So I tried to suggest to him that he should kill me, to see his reaction.



1/23/2011 8:14:40 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor It wouldn't.
1/23/2011 8:14:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Both would succeed
1/23/2011 8:14:51 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy then it would be pointless killing you imo
1/23/2011 8:14:53 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy in this game at least
1/23/2011 8:14:55 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy or no
1/23/2011 8:14:56 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy ..
1/23/2011 8:14:59 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy you would have high strength then


He's fishing for information. He wants something, so, I bait him a little more. I speak now as if I know for sure he's mafia, but I have something up my sleeve or otherwise don't care that he is.


1/23/2011 8:15:15 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor it still removes my vote and a highly likely to be innocent person
1/23/2011 8:15:34 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor The downside of course in leaving me alive is the guaranteed vote that cancels out yours.
1/23/2011 8:15:47 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Leaving your fate to those who who decide between us.
1/23/2011 8:16:00 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor If you kill me, that means one less guaranteed vote.
1/23/2011 8:16:27 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy meh I don't know really. people seem set already
1/23/2011 8:16:36 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy as I understand it's because of the move I pulled on Renata
1/23/2011 8:17:13 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Here's my thinking.
1/23/2011 8:17:23 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor we have a detective. A detective in a game this small.
1/23/2011 8:17:35 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That means there's likely someone who can fool the detective.
1/23/2011 8:17:52 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That's why, I believe, unless we get another guilty result, from here on out, it is guesswork.
1/23/2011 8:18:03 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor My guess is on you for several reasons.
1/23/2011 8:18:10 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I feel confident in lynching you blindly.


This, plus what I said in-thread about not believing any scan results on him, and wanting him dead, ramps up the pressure to an almost 100% chance of losing the game if he leaves me alive. This kind of pressure is the kind I only apply when I am supremely confident, otherwise people will think I am bluffing. Here, I wasn't bluffing, and I rarely ever use this kind of pressure, so you know I'm deadly serious about it.

Here, the only way God Emperor wins the game is to kill me, or..... if he thought I was not townie..... and revealed to me. The light bulb goes off in my head. I literally have the idea right around this point in the conversation, and then move forward with it on instinct.



1/23/2011 8:18:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy oh I have been scanned ?
1/23/2011 8:18:46 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy lynching me blindly :laugh: that's even less chances than what you gave me in CoV :P
1/23/2011 8:18:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I know, friend. I only do that when I'm pretty sure.
1/23/2011 8:19:13 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy :O
1/23/2011 8:19:14 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy okay
1/23/2011 8:19:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy what are the reasons ?
1/23/2011 8:19:32 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Well, I can discount several people as suspects, for several reasons, some stronger than others.
1/23/2011 8:19:47 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor By process of elimination alone, your name comes up.
1/23/2011 8:20:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But, your votes and behavior, and the behavior of known scums towards you, seem to also be indicative.
1/23/2011 8:20:42 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I don't know about the behavior of known scum towards me. but what is it with my own behavior ? :O
1/23/2011 8:20:45 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That said, it's not a slam dunk. But I feel that there will be a wrong detective result on someone in this game, and I don't trust the results unless they say guilty.
1/23/2011 8:21:01 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I do not believe "innocent" anymore.
1/23/2011 8:21:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Just instinctive.


Being a game designer and host of more games than I can count (thus the theme of the upcoming ATPG Mafia II) I have a strong instinct about game setup. Only really bizarre setups throw me for a loop anymore. I know the game isn't balanced unless the mafia have an ace up their sleeve, and I was betting the entire farm it was an anti-investigation one. That blunts the town's most important and powerful role, giving the mafia some breathing space.

Still, if you expect that, it doesn't work. Game still favors the town, as it usually does.


1/23/2011 8:21:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that's fine imo
1/23/2011 8:21:27 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Specifically, I could mention several posts.
1/23/2011 8:21:28 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor May I?
1/23/2011 8:21:33 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy go ahead ^^
1/23/2011 8:22:01 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I wouldn't mind knowing why you wish me killed so badly :P
1/23/2011 8:22:16 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor post 36, you voted for YLC. Someone I am absolutely confident is innocent.


Reason: He was so apathetic and distracted by RL, he wasn't voting or discussing. He does not lurk as mafia. But the smoking gun was the day he was about to get wogged, he would have been had I not sent him a timely, last-second message to tell him to vote for me or he would be wogged.

That he did spare himself, but only at my prompting, told me he was a townie. I'd believe that over almost any contrary evidence.



1/23/2011 8:22:28 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy 36
1/23/2011 8:22:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that would be the first vote of the game
1/23/2011 8:22:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy ?
1/23/2011 8:22:46 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor yes
1/23/2011 8:22:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy lol ^^
1/23/2011 8:23:15 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy It's your call ofc, but I wouldn't put too much into a random vote on day one
1/23/2011 8:23:31 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You voted for Beskar on day 2
1/23/2011 8:23:36 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I feel he's innocent as well


He was still a suspect, but I needed to ramp up the pressure some more on God Emperor. Acting confident when I am not, is one use of psychological warfare. GE might also suspect that Beskar was a doctor or investigator and have him killed off, if he is mafia. Being VERY sure on someone I am not sure about, can cause rash decisions by the mafia. Pressure pressure pressure.....



1/23/2011 8:23:47 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yes and you may know him better than I do
1/23/2011 8:23:48 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but
1/23/2011 8:23:53 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy imo his behavior is way off
1/23/2011 8:25:02 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You have a close connection to Renata
1/23/2011 8:25:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor a bit too close.
1/23/2011 8:25:44 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that would be the thing about roles ?
1/23/2011 8:26:00 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yeah, but the fact that you'd share so openly with Renata, seems a bit random.
1/23/2011 8:26:11 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy well you know my reason for doing so
1/23/2011 8:26:45 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132540-Order-Of-The-Stick-Mafia-In-Play&p=2053253243&viewfull=1#post2053253243
1/23/2011 8:27:00 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Post 255, you give a bigger analysis on Renata than the others, but don't vote for her.
1/23/2011 8:27:22 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy give a bigger analysis ? oh
1/23/2011 8:27:24 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy because of the quotes ?
1/23/2011 8:27:36 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132540-Order-Of-The-Stick-Mafia-In-Play&p=2053253483&viewfull=1#post2053253483
1/23/2011 8:27:45 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor 267, looks like an attempt to spare her.


These things are interesting and suspicious, but using this circumstantial evidence and almost declaring them to be ironclad proof of guilt, and shining the spotlight on his direct connections to a certain scumbag, is the kind of pressure no mafia, anywhere, ever wants to have to deal with. That's why I do it, it's an attempt to cause panic. But, I don't like to waste such tactics on people I'm not already sure about, or else people will just expect I am bluffing and ignore me. It's important that these tactics remain potent, so I use them very very sparingly.

GE of course tells me he's always remained calm when I question him like this. I believe him, but he's sort of unique in that regard. Besides, it's not just the emotion of panic I am looking for, but also planting subversive ideas into an otherwise rational mind... such as making it seem like failure is absolutely unavoidable without a miracle... and then giving my target the same miraculous option they desperately need.

Given what I knew of Ge's tactical situation if he were mafia, he really did not have much of a choice. We still had a living doctor and investigator, and apparently, a vigilante. I don't blame him for accepting the coming offer.


1/23/2011 8:28:05 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it's not like my vote would ever spare her
1/23/2011 8:28:12 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I am well aware of that. and that is not the goal either
1/23/2011 8:28:21 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but there is simply no gain in voting for her as well
1/23/2011 8:28:52 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but really.. it's true there is more text if you add the quotes. but there is no bigger 'analysis' on her than anyone else
1/23/2011 8:28:58 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I point out the things that I find odd
1/23/2011 8:29:08 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but I haven't been given an answer on any of them yet
1/23/2011 8:29:21 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy neither witth questions on Beskar a few days ago..

A strong defense of his actions towards Renata. I obviously struck a nerve there. Then he tries to compare it to other actions he's done, by pointing out he also questioned Beskar.

These are calm, rational responses, but it's clear that resolving those questions are important to him and likely his victory.


1/23/2011 8:29:26 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I also know who the investigator is
1/23/2011 8:29:34 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and I also know who has been cleared via scan
1/23/2011 8:29:47 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy tha doesn't make sense :laugh:
1/23/2011 8:29:52 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy since you didn't believe scans :P
1/23/2011 8:30:06 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Scanned as innocent merely means "not a henchman"
1/23/2011 8:30:12 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor it could still be a godfather type role
1/23/2011 8:30:20 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor but, bereft of puppets, the godfather will fall
1/23/2011 8:30:24 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor it's only a matter of time.
1/23/2011 8:30:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy So you have sentenced me


So now, what is on God Emperor's plate, is that he is my main suspect, I'm very sure about him, I will refuse to believe investigation results clearing him, he is about to lose his final living ally to the lynch, I look very innocent from the town's perspective, and I also have access to the detective and his results and I strongly believe several other people are innocent.

This leaves God Emperor with too many adversaries and a highly unlikely sequence of events which must happen for him to win, starting with my death, the death of the doctor, the death of the investigator, and the death of anyone I happen to find innocent-looking. Then, he would have a shot.

Given the stark reality of the situation, even a high-risk and ill-advised move is still worth exploring.



1/23/2011 8:31:09 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Meh. If you were innocent, you could be murdered to discredit me.
1/23/2011 8:31:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That would be one way out of this.
1/23/2011 8:31:23 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it wouldn't descredit you in any way
1/23/2011 8:31:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy imo
1/23/2011 8:31:34 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy leaving me alive , if anything, is the smartest move
1/23/2011 8:31:38 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy as you are already set
1/23/2011 8:32:30 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but you are wrong


This is almost a confession itself. Here, he knows he's never going to die by murder.

So, the only, only logical explanation is to predict that this will happen.... and suggest it is all part of the mafia's master plan.

Better would be to say "with all the suspicion on me, I highly doubt I'll be attacked", but he's viewing it from the mafia's angle, which leads to the natural "the mafia would be wise to leave me alive".

I'm afraid it's been said many times before, almost always by scums of some kind.


1/23/2011 8:32:53 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Then I suggest you work extra hard and try to find a viable second suspect.
1/23/2011 8:33:01 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I'll have that one scanned.

One of my rules is, on the outside chance I am wrong (less outside than I'd like, recently....) I would like to scan his main suspect. His perspective, as a townie, would be fresh and interesting.


1/23/2011 8:33:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I really can't defend myself against my random vote on day 1. I voted for YLC because I don't know him very well.. like I do in every game
1/23/2011 8:33:28 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I don't want an alibi or an explanation. I want you to point a finger at someone, and have that person end up being scanned as guilty.
1/23/2011 8:33:32 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor That will spare you.
1/23/2011 8:33:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the best I can ask is that you look on my behavior I guess.. I do as I always do (when I am not ill=s )
1/23/2011 8:33:41 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy you know who I point at
1/23/2011 8:33:42 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Beskar
1/23/2011 8:33:45 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but you disagree
1/23/2011 8:33:50 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor If you insist.
1/23/2011 8:34:01 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But if he's scanned as innocent, I'm voting for you over him.
1/23/2011 8:34:12 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy alright
1/23/2011 8:34:33 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy so it means I am being voted for no matter what (unless Beskar comes up as scum)

He goes back to defending himself, which was a little out of the blue. I re-direct him back to the topic I wished to discuss. I wanted him to start pointing fingers, like a real townie should in this situation. "If you die and are town, who should I pressure?" is the sort of question I often ask my fellow townies that I suspect are mafia. I've noticed that the mafia will either hesitate to suggest someone, and hesitate further to apply pressure to that person (for fear of OMGUS votes and otherwise having attention lavished on themselves) whereas townies have generally been good about naming their top suspects. Mafia don't have "top suspects" that they can name offhand, townies do.

The final sentence is damning. He knows Beskar is going to be scanned as innocent, and that he's totally doomed.

Gotta work on that poker face, God Emperor.


Some of the conversation went off-topic here, so I'll skip to the next segment.



1/23/2011 8:48:19 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor If I am right, you really should kill me, consider it my reward.
1/23/2011 8:48:30 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor or vengeance.
1/23/2011 8:48:31 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Whichever
1/23/2011 8:48:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that's a wasted request though
1/23/2011 8:48:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor because you'll ignore it?
1/23/2011 8:48:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy out of vengeance ? :D it would be Beskar then if any ^_^
1/23/2011 8:48:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I'll protect him.
1/23/2011 8:49:00 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Because I don't kill : P
1/23/2011 8:49:05 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Oh? That's a shame.
1/23/2011 8:49:12 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Can you gain killing powers when Renata dies?
1/23/2011 8:49:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I am too good mannered to kill people
1/23/2011 8:49:27 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I sincerely doubt that
1/23/2011 8:49:27 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Who is your character anyway


I didn't even bother asking him what his claim was until now, and only out of morbid curiosity. At this point I didn't really care what his fake role was, tbh... I felt very sure.



1/23/2011 8:49:46 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy guess it doesn't matter as all should know it by now. I am my favorite character Elan :D


Romanic and I discussed this, iirc. We felt Elan was the reflexive cover role for Nale, who we knew we were after.

Bad cover role. Too easy to spot. It had no effect on the game though, everything was already in motion by this point.



1/23/2011 8:49:54 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy what about you ?
1/23/2011 8:51:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy don't know if you ever read the strips
1/23/2011 8:51:07 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I never have
1/23/2011 8:51:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but he is an idiotic bard
1/23/2011 8:51:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor but apparently Elan would be Nale's identical brother
1/23/2011 8:51:22 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and we're looking to nail Nale.
1/23/2011 8:51:22 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yes he is
1/23/2011 8:51:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy they are twins
1/23/2011 8:51:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yeah that sounds right
1/23/2011 8:52:06 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it would be a really bad cover role though if I would be nale :laugh:
1/23/2011 8:52:16 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Sometimes people get bad cover roles.
1/23/2011 8:52:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Look at CoV


Here, his frustration with his bad cover role seeps into the conversation. Subtle tells, but like a hint of poo-poo smell in the air, it lets you know that something much stinkier was behind it.



1/23/2011 8:52:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy look at
1/23/2011 8:52:29 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy what was his name
1/23/2011 8:52:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy .... .. cecil
1/23/2011 8:53:15 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor what was his cover role?
1/23/2011 8:53:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy iirc it was something that didn't have anything to do with his character
1/23/2011 8:53:33 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy same with
1/23/2011 8:53:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy autolycus
1/23/2011 8:53:39 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy checking
1/23/2011 8:55:19 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy autolucus was a paladin
1/23/2011 8:55:34 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but his real role was Belkar, member of the order of the stick
1/23/2011 8:55:37 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy no connection
1/23/2011 8:56:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor why, Belkar isnt a paladin?
1/23/2011 8:56:15 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy cecil was green oracle guard
1/23/2011 8:56:20 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Belkar is a ranger hobbit
1/23/2011 8:56:26 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the other is a paladin human iirc
1/23/2011 8:56:34 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but he was Thog
1/23/2011 8:56:48 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy and Thog is a goblin henchman
1/23/2011 8:56:52 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy no connection at all
1/23/2011 8:57:24 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that is what I mean, that my real role is NOT Nale


More conversation about cover roles. I extended and prolonged the discussion so there was a gap between the steps I was taking. I wanted it to sound very, very natural what I was about to say.... not tip off God Emperor that I had a trap planned for him.



1/23/2011 8:57:41 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I'm a nameless priest dude.
1/23/2011 8:57:46 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor but my real role is...
1/23/2011 8:57:55 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy then you are a member of the order of the stick imo ?
1/23/2011 8:57:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor LEEEEEROOOOYYYY JENKINSSSSS
1/23/2011 8:58:03 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I see :P
1/23/2011 8:58:16 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yes, I am neutral. I win if I survive.
1/23/2011 8:58:25 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But Leeroy never survives.
1/23/2011 8:58:31 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that's a tough one
1/23/2011 8:58:38 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor So now you see why I have to make the mafia die?
1/23/2011 8:58:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor It's the only way I'll live.


This is not the first time I've falsely claimed to be Leeroy Jenkins, by the way. I also did it in one of the swords and d20's games to great effect. I like Leeroy Jenkins. It's so off, but still sounds almost plausible as a bizarre surprise role.

Claiming neutral is better than claiming SK, because SK is a threat to the mafia and I haven't been killing.
Claiming neutral is better than claiming recruitable townie, because I don't know if GE can recruit.



1/23/2011 8:58:48 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that's not true
1/23/2011 8:58:51 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy we both know that
1/23/2011 8:58:59 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I can't trust the mafia.
1/23/2011 8:59:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Especially after CoV
1/23/2011 8:59:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I don't know what side deals you had running there though : P
1/23/2011 8:59:23 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Simple
1/23/2011 8:59:28 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor don't kill me and I won't kill you
1/23/2011 8:59:34 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and they couldn't hold up their end
1/23/2011 8:59:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and with beskar, it was simple
1/23/2011 8:59:48 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I revealed in honesty, and he did not
1/23/2011 8:59:49 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but it's true.. won't forget the backstab I experienced in the senata mafia game
1/23/2011 8:59:59 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but your goal was to kill his team
1/23/2011 9:00:01 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy a member of his team
1/23/2011 9:00:03 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the strongest one
1/23/2011 9:00:06 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor So?
1/23/2011 9:00:14 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy So Ofc he cannot work with you
1/23/2011 9:00:16 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor As an ordinary serial killer, I would have been much, much worse.
1/23/2011 9:00:23 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor And yet, mafia and SK team up all the time
1/23/2011 9:00:28 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Easily doable.
1/23/2011 9:00:29 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Easily.
1/23/2011 9:00:35 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Even with directly conflicting victories.
1/23/2011 9:00:41 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Because town is much worse
1/23/2011 9:00:45 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and both are allied against town
1/23/2011 9:00:53 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor by default they have a common foe
1/23/2011 9:01:02 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor All they need to do is agree to kill townies together
1/23/2011 9:01:10 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor and if town lynches one, that solves the whole conflict
1/23/2011 9:01:11 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy pevergreen was neutral too.. how many are there ?
1/23/2011 9:01:23 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Dunno.

Plausibility points: pevergreen was neutral.



1/23/2011 9:01:36 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy alright. you never know how active you are behind the scenes
1/23/2011 9:01:42 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But you claim you won't kill me. That's fine.
1/23/2011 9:01:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I would imagine
1/23/2011 9:02:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I could survive a night attack anyways
1/23/2011 9:02:10 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I doubt that
1/23/2011 9:02:20 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Fine. I made that part up.
1/23/2011 9:02:23 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy you are a little lier :laugh:


Added credibility: Act like I would actually act as a neutral role, which is "cover my bases" and bluff that I am a bad kill anyway... because I'd survive somehow.

All my actions to-date can be explained by a desire to not be lynched, to quickly kill the mafia, or possibly direct the mafia's kill away from me, even with a bluff.

The lie adds credibility to my story, because it sounds like what neutral Pizzaguy would say.

Subtle details make or break all lies. If something doesn't feel right instinctively, it's probably because of a little usually unnoticeable detail like that.

I have to throw myself into the character to remember such details.


1/23/2011 9:02:40 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But if you are mafia and you want to win, you have to bet on this horse.
1/23/2011 9:02:45 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Otherwise you're going down.
1/23/2011 9:02:48 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy indeed I would
1/23/2011 9:03:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but you would already have chosen side
1/23/2011 9:03:10 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy as far as I can hear
1/23/2011 9:03:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Meh.
1/23/2011 9:04:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy you like aiding the small parties
1/23/2011 9:04:36 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I keep trying to anyway. The town is usually the underdog
1/23/2011 9:04:48 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor but lately town has gotten.... shall we say.... overpowered?
1/23/2011 9:05:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I even broke pattern and tried to aid the Dark Samus mafia, just to see if I could stay alive long enough to whack Samus.
1/23/2011 9:05:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Then I would turn on them, yes.
1/23/2011 9:05:24 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But, I could have died in the meanwhile.
1/23/2011 9:05:31 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor So it was still worth it


The point. I've made it clear I have God Emperor by the faction heirs, and that I want something.

I want him to not murder me. I want him to quit messing around and get to the point. The point is, you must ally with me or I WILL kill you.

Carrot and stick are fine apart, best when together.


1/23/2011 9:05:46 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Town is strong. I am not aware of how many power roles there are though
1/23/2011 9:05:52 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I am


"Town is strong" is a confession, point blank. I know I have him for certain here. But I play it cool, because I am already infiltrating. I must collect all data I can. I offer to tell him what the power roles are in this game, which is what he wants, badly.



1/23/2011 9:06:00 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy what can you do ?
1/23/2011 9:06:10 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I know of who they are and what they do.
1/23/2011 9:06:23 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy is that a power role, or game activity
1/23/2011 9:06:31 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor just speaking privately
1/23/2011 9:06:38 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy figures
1/23/2011 9:06:43 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy though you haven't spoken that much with me
1/23/2011 9:06:48 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I didn't trust you
1/23/2011 9:07:00 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy you speak with everyone if you trust them or not :laugh:
1/23/2011 9:07:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yes, that's why I am speaking to you now.
1/23/2011 9:07:13 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy are you really Romanics scanner ?
1/23/2011 9:07:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor No.
1/23/2011 9:07:24 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I don't have such powers.


Notice I still have not stated who the power roles are. I lose nothing by aborting this mission now, and pointing the big finger at GE. He no longer has any leverage to get any information out of me, but his tongue has been loosened.




1/23/2011 9:07:28 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy alright.. lying would be pointless in your situation anyway
1/23/2011 9:08:01 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy don't you care about gameroom statistics ?
1/23/2011 9:08:59 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor What about them?
1/23/2011 9:09:10 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy well
1/23/2011 9:09:15 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy revealing to me that you are a neutral party
1/23/2011 9:09:27 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy is to give me an edge. nothing more.. so it just made me wonder
1/23/2011 9:09:45 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy perhaps it was a subtle way of offering asisstance ?
1/23/2011 9:11:29 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy because you surely had the power to possibly tip the scales
1/23/2011 9:12:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I don't really want to die, and if you kill me, there I go.
1/23/2011 9:12:15 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But here I have some leverage
1/23/2011 9:12:21 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I can take you down with me.
1/23/2011 9:12:26 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor If that's how you want to play it.
1/23/2011 9:12:38 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Otherwise, we press onward together.
1/23/2011 9:12:42 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Deal or no deal.
1/23/2011 9:12:52 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Your choice.


Here, I push him past the point of no return; he's already all but told me he is mafia. He must flat-out confirm he wants to form an alliance with a claimed neutral in order to destroy the town, while avoiding killing me.

By now, I've also somewhat incriminated myself with my story, so if GE was a townie, he'd have leverage over me and he would know I am not crucial to his victory. By now, if GE were a townie playing games, it would have been clear.

When he asks if I am offering him assistance, that's the smokingest gun of all smoking guns. Now I feel no hesitation to use whatever lies I have, and gain maximum information from him before destroying him.



1/23/2011 9:12:55 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Deal


Seals the deal. Now he has to share info with me, to make this alliance profitable. I make sure the game is really over and I've gained all the info I can from him before tightening the rope.



1/23/2011 9:13:17 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Do you actually have any powers?
1/23/2011 9:13:22 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yes I Do
1/23/2011 9:13:23 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor something useful?
1/23/2011 9:13:24 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy do *
1/23/2011 9:13:37 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it really depends on other peoples strengths
1/23/2011 9:13:39 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy as mine is 8
1/23/2011 9:13:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it's awfully low
1/23/2011 9:13:51 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor what can you do with it
1/23/2011 9:13:54 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy kill


So, he can kill. Good to know.



1/23/2011 9:13:57 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor well mine is 5, so don't feel bad.
1/23/2011 9:14:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You could probably one shot me.
1/23/2011 9:14:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I could.. but I wouldn't do that. and certainly not now
1/23/2011 9:14:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I would much rather push for a GE / ATPG victory (:


Me too, buddy. Sadly, the one time I am not a neutral role in this situation. :wall:



1/23/2011 9:14:41 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Question, if you got scanned, could you actually avoid it at all?
1/23/2011 9:14:48 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Or do I need to press for you not to be scanned?
1/23/2011 9:14:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor And scan beskar
1/23/2011 9:15:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I have no idea.. it doesn't mention god father protection anywhere
1/23/2011 9:15:08 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but I am the god father role
1/23/2011 9:15:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy so it's not impossible.. but avoiding it would be the best


Are you the droids we're looking for?

-Yes, yes I am. I am the Godfather.

Thanks for the info.


1/23/2011 9:15:20 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Did you get to choose your henchman?
1/23/2011 9:15:25 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy nah
1/23/2011 9:15:29 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I didn't choose anything
1/23/2011 9:15:29 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor that sucks
1/23/2011 9:15:34 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor that's the best part of being a GF
1/23/2011 9:15:37 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor choosing your team
1/23/2011 9:15:42 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Cecil and Renata, good picks anyway
1/23/2011 9:15:44 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor nice random.


Didn't pick henchman. Okay, more info about the game setup.




1/23/2011 9:15:54 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yeah.. though I almost gave up after Renata's mistake
1/23/2011 9:16:28 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor what was her mistake?
1/23/2011 9:16:38 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy she made an obvious connection between her and me
1/23/2011 9:16:44 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy she told romanic what his role was : s
1/23/2011 9:16:47 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy because I got it out of romanic
1/23/2011 9:16:51 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor yeah
1/23/2011 9:16:56 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor that is pretty unusual
1/23/2011 9:16:59 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy then she said that I told her 5 pm
1/23/2011 9:17:04 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that same time I talked with Romanic
1/23/2011 9:17:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I would NEVER do that
1/23/2011 9:17:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but I made an excuse , the best I could think of, durring the 10 minutes I had :P
1/23/2011 9:17:41 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor it was good cover.
1/23/2011 9:17:44 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Almost buy-able.
1/23/2011 9:18:05 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy do you know the scanners strength ?
1/23/2011 9:18:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it would still be 3 vs 2 iirc
1/23/2011 9:18:40 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy so some awesome ATPG frame would be needed (:
1/23/2011 9:18:44 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy a linse of lies
1/23/2011 9:18:47 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy if you catch my drift
1/23/2011 9:19:30 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor lense of lies?
1/23/2011 9:19:33 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor lens*
1/23/2011 9:20:00 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I hear you.
1/23/2011 9:20:13 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy yes :P
1/23/2011 9:20:15 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I'll see what I can come up with.
1/23/2011 9:20:29 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy what do you know ? I wouldn't mind adding ideas
1/23/2011 9:20:34 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy at least I am not all uncreative
1/23/2011 9:20:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Well is there any way to turn your power into something that can seem pro-town?
1/23/2011 9:21:06 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor claiming vig won't work though.


Fishing for additional abilities, if any.



1/23/2011 9:21:27 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that would be late.. I fear. concidered the amount of talk I have had with Romanic
1/23/2011 9:21:36 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor mmm yes.
1/23/2011 9:21:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Do you know any other neutral roles?
1/23/2011 9:21:50 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor We could try simply outvoting.
1/23/2011 9:21:56 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy no.. tbh I don't know any roles : s.. I know Romanics
1/23/2011 9:22:02 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor what is his role?
1/23/2011 9:22:07 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor he told me he was vanilla
1/23/2011 9:22:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it is red guard
1/23/2011 9:22:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor what can he do
1/23/2011 9:22:22 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy nothing I believe.. it seems plausible
1/23/2011 9:22:37 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy if we must outvote people, then we need one supporter and one scape goat
1/23/2011 9:22:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the fact that there actually is a scanner out there is a problem


Knowing what, if any, other neutral roles were in the game assists me in determining how much potential voting power the remaining mafia have. I am not sure yet if he can recruit neutrals, too.




1/23/2011 9:22:55 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Well if Beskar gets scanned he cannot become a scapegoat
1/23/2011 9:23:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor thing is, Romanic has already been scanned
1/23/2011 9:23:33 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the problem is that the scanner can say ' I wouldn't lynch that guy' or ' I would lynch that guy'
1/23/2011 9:23:37 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy unless DE does like Chaotix
1/23/2011 9:23:41 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy and does not give results if you die
1/23/2011 9:23:46 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor probably not
1/23/2011 9:23:56 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it's most normal to give results I fear
1/23/2011 9:24:39 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but there is no way this is going to be a strength victory. it will have to be an outnumber
1/23/2011 9:24:55 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor why, did you guys lose most of your strength
1/23/2011 9:25:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy why ofc
1/23/2011 9:25:05 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I am the weakst
1/23/2011 9:25:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy weakest
1/23/2011 9:25:16 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy Renata , the strongest
1/23/2011 9:25:19 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor why would the godfather role be the weakest
1/23/2011 9:25:20 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor seems odd
1/23/2011 9:25:24 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor can you at least recruit?


Knowing his strength was useful too, I suppose. Asking him if he could recruit was the biggie, so I waited until he was confident he could/should trust me.



1/23/2011 9:25:27 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that was my innitial reaction
1/23/2011 9:25:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I can do nothing except being worse
1/23/2011 9:25:34 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy however
1/23/2011 9:25:43 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it's not impossible that DE has hidden mechanics
1/23/2011 9:25:45 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy and tbh
1/23/2011 9:25:50 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I may be able to avoid a scan
1/23/2011 9:25:58 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy based on my role pm
1/23/2011 9:26:02 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy since elan and nale are twins
1/23/2011 9:26:08 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy except nale have a goatee
1/23/2011 9:26:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yeah. It makes story sense.
1/23/2011 9:26:12 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy but he has shaved that
1/23/2011 9:26:17 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You could shave it yeah.
1/23/2011 9:26:21 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But no recruitment power?
1/23/2011 9:26:28 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy it is pointed out that the goatee has been shaved
1/23/2011 9:26:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy no , only killing
1/23/2011 9:26:35 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I am the weakst member
1/23/2011 9:26:38 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy unless I am scan imune
1/23/2011 9:26:44 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I am the head of the guild


Probably scan immune he says. He cannot recruit anyone, either.... Excellent. Now I get that the game setup was at least somewhat balanced; and I know that I needn't waste any more of the investigator's time. It was now necessary to boat the bass.




1/23/2011 9:26:49 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Well, God Emperor.
1/23/2011 9:27:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I am afraid I have to ask you to steel yourself for what I am about to tell you next.
1/23/2011 9:27:18 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Because it's not good news.


I fully realize how scummy everything I just did to God Emperor was; beyond the usual moves. So I wanted to let him down as gently as possible.




1/23/2011 9:27:39 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy the fact that I am relying on neutral parties suggest that I am in a bad situation :P
1/23/2011 9:27:40 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy so go ahead :D
1/23/2011 9:27:51 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor *hugs*
1/23/2011 9:27:53 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Sorry.
1/23/2011 9:27:58 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I am not in fact a neutral role.
1/23/2011 9:28:04 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that's okay :P
1/23/2011 9:28:08 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I was coercing a confession out of you.
1/23/2011 9:28:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy that was expected
1/23/2011 9:28:19 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy however
1/23/2011 9:28:29 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy as I am lynch bait already
1/23/2011 9:28:36 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You didn't have much to lose.
1/23/2011 9:28:37 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yeah
1/23/2011 9:28:44 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I probably would have done the same
1/23/2011 9:28:51 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor *shake hands*
1/23/2011 9:29:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Good game though. I prefer it to be won based on guile rather than investigations.
1/23/2011 9:29:12 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You are the only one I played this ruse with.
1/23/2011 9:29:24 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor So, that meant it was won based on a correct guess.
1/23/2011 9:29:40 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You guys gave a good effort.
1/23/2011 9:29:50 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor If you had been able to recruit; I might have said recruit me.
1/23/2011 9:30:01 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I need more mafia wins.
1/23/2011 9:30:10 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy heh :P
1/23/2011 9:30:13 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy well my statistics are ruined
1/23/2011 9:30:15 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy anyway
1/23/2011 9:30:20 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I somehow always lose :P
1/23/2011 9:30:27 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Oh you're doing fine.
1/23/2011 9:30:37 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor I felt the game setup worked against you here
1/23/2011 9:30:43 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor But, avoiding an investigation
1/23/2011 9:30:47 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor that might have won you the game
1/23/2011 9:30:56 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor except, we had already suspected you might have been able to.
1/23/2011 9:31:00 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Good townie play this time.
1/23/2011 9:31:03 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Very perceptive.
1/23/2011 9:31:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy no it wouldn't.. you wouldn't let go.. Beskar was set.. and I was the only real suspect
1/23/2011 9:31:07 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy imo
1/23/2011 9:31:11 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor Yeah.



The finale could have been more drawn out and anticlimactic if I didn't press God Emperor more. Besides, if I had been wrong, I needed time to go try such a thing on other suspects.

:shakehands: Good game, everyone.





Pizza,

we're down to 7 people in OOTS

God Emperor
Beskar
YLC

You
Me
RobbieCon
Romanic

I know the identities of the last 4, however I am very much bothered by the fact that we appear to have 2 investigators in such a small game. Can you tell me who told you about Secura's role? I'm willing to share all my info with you if you are willing to do the same.

Yaro


Not necessary, Yaropolk. I bet infinity dollars that God Emperor is the droids we're looking for.

[pevergreen]

I died early. TT.



Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Tsukiko
"Besides, they were the ones who threw ME into prison for being different — for understanding that a pulse is not a prerequisite for being loved! They all got exactly what they deserved!"

Victory Condition: Neutral: You survive to the end of the game.
Combat Strength: 8
Abilities: Reanimation - Once during the game, you may reanimate a dead player. This forces you to win with the team of that player, and that team only. Note that the player will not actually be restored to life, but that he/she will still be counted when determining if a team has won, and can be lynched again.
Necroempathy - The dead may reveal otherwise forbidden information to you in private. You can ask me to confirm this to them, also in private.

Background:
Tsukiko is a Mystical Theurge (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilSorcerer) and ex-prisoner of the Sapphire Guard. In the original storyline, she ends up teaming up with Xykon and the rest of "Team Evil", where she has plenty of occassions to put her dark magics at work (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkActionGirl), and partake in her great passion, The Undead (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Necromancer). Tsukiko loves the undead (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ILoveTheDead) - Yes, in that way (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick) - because something has convinced her that the living are horrible people (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreBastards), and that, because the undead are the antithesis to the living (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic), they must be good. In the original storyline, one of the reasons she teams up with Xykon - who is a lich - is that she hopes that he will eventually fall for her (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HorribleJudgeOfCharacter).

Her outlook on the world (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LightIsNotGood) taints pretty much all aspects of her personality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Goth), and she is not the keenest social interactor (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VainSorceress), mainly because very few people actually want to have anything to do with her. In this alternate timeline, Tsukiko does not know of the existence of Xykon or his plans to attack Azure city; she has simply broken out from the Azure City prison during the commotion around Lord Shojo's death and is now caught inside the palace, only hoping to escape alive. She cares not who wins, but is willing to ally whoever seems to have the upper hand and put her considerable powers to their assistance.

Note that you are one of the very few characters in the game to have multiple abilities available to you.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

[God Emperor]

the conversations, from my perspective, can be devided into two groups -


The first part is ATPG's fishing.. I had dispaired and given up in the game a few days ago already, so I was not too concerned about what I said, though in the start phase of part 1, I still kept illusion of being a townie, although I knew how futile that was; town could afford to lynch me, so there was no hope that they wouldn't.


however in the second part, where ATPG claimed neutral, there was at least something to hold on to. So revealing everything at that point was a necessity; in order to avoid a vengeful backfire, if he was neutral. Beskar's parasite: earthbound gave inspiration to that move. quotes like the follwing


1/23/2011 9:13:57 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor well mine is 5, so don't feel bad.
1/23/2011 9:14:04 AM Askthepizzaguy God Emperor You could probably one shot me.
1/23/2011 9:14:17 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I could.. but I wouldn't do that. and certainly not now
1/23/2011 9:14:32 AM God Emperor Askthepizzaguy I would much rather push for a GE / ATPG victory (:

were only to convince ATPG, by hitting the emotional button, which would increase the chance of a convincing alliance - however as he was townie, it was a wasted move.. well all of phase two was :p enjoyable none the less

[Renata]

Good job town.

[Beskar]

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Sapphire Guard Paladin
"Wait, stop! What are you doing-!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 6
Abilities: None.

Background:
One of the standard Paladins (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt) of the Sapphire Guard, your sworn duty is to protect the Lord of the City and the Throne room. While you seem to have failed your Lord, you will not fail your people by letting the murderers who are loose in the Palace claim the Sapphire Throne. Due to the fact that this game is taking place in an alternate timeline to the original, your fate is not to be killed by fellow Paladins afflicted by a Symbol of Insanity. You rather hope that you will actually make it out of the Throne Room alive in this timeline!

[Romanic]

Yay for the Town! Good job Team! :applause: The talks behind the scenes were particularly good, and it was clear at some point that we, Robbie/Yaro/ATPG/Romanic, were all Townies because of Robbie's scan results, and because our power roles (robbie and Yaro) were never attacked. YLC was also cleared considering ATPG had to save him from a WOG (he posted less than one minute before the deadline :laugh4:).

So the remaining mafia had to be a mix Renata, Beskar and GE. Knowing that GE told Renata about my role, within minutes, was a clincher, but we even got a positive scan result from Robbie, to confirm it. :grin:

I don't think the mafia realized how strong the Town network was behind the scenes. Robbie's scans, and his ability to share it with one player (visiting a player at night), really helped to build trust. Sharing ATPG's result with me on N1 was great, thanks for that Robbie :P. I guess things could have gone different if Robbie had sent his results to a mafia, but he never did.


Romanic was my favorite townie of the game .. very active and on guard :) we had many nice long talks :p

These talks were great, it looked genuine enough, and you convinced me that you were Town, until I learned that you were talking behind my back with Renata :laugh4:.


Thanks for the game, DE, it was awesome! And that for showing me these great comics!

[Diamondeye]

I hope you all enjoyed it :bow: I can post all the Role PMs (and the overview spreadsheet) if you want to see it...

[Renata]

I honestly didn't really expect there to BE a town network, romanic -- i just had the setup completely wrong in my mind. Even when I learned from GE that there was an investigator role I assumed it must be nerfed somehow -- but I'm not sure GE even really was a godfather.

[Secura]

robbiecon told me that he scanned Renata and sent me the information on the night I died... that's about the only contribution I could have made though, so while it's nice to win, I won't be taking any credit for it.

Congratulations to the rest of the town, though... looks like you did a bang-up job this time, mafia slip-up aside. An advertisement for town networks if there ever was one.

[Diamondeye]

GE was not a Godfather. And the prophet's ability was complicated... He could investigate only on the condition that he shared this result with another player, and he was not allowed to share it with the same player twice. He could easily risk handing very dangerous information to a mafia, like "YLC is Durkon, and innocent". That'd guarantee a kill of a power-role.

[Romanic]

My role, I was a poor vanilla :grin:.

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Red Oracle Guard
"You're the liar!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 5
Abilities: None.

Background:
As part of one of the three tests (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightsAndKnaves) one must pass in order to arrive at the Oracle, the Green Oracle Guard is the person who always lies, whereas his counterpart, the Red Oracle Guard, always tells the truth. While this riddle is an age-old classic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyThink), certain tendencies in today's adventurers (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuttingTheKnot) has led to a significant risk of work-related injuries (luckily, non-fatal so far). So, uhm, in this alternate storyline, the Oracle has taken mercy on the pair of you and let you take a vacation in Azure city before returning to guard duty. Considering he can tell the future, the fact that you end up locked in a palace with a band of murderers and the Order of the Stick (who were the original perpetrators of the work-related incidents (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html)), you take it that your boss isn't too fond of people asking for vacation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HintDropping).

Note that you do not have to adhere to the "truth only"-restriction. Nevertheless, it would be fun to see pulled off :beam:[/CENTER]


Night 1, someone visited me :laugh4:

You are visited this night by a strange oracle. You cannot recall who it is, or how they looked, but you recall quite clearly that it divined the true identity of one of the other people in the palace.

You are certain that AskThePizzaGuy is The High Priest of the Twelve Gods, and that he is innocent.


I immediately contacted ATPG to inform him. Not sure how well he believed me, this was somewhat odd. I guess that he could have seen me as a possible mafia scanner.

On that night, Yaro used his tracking power on ATPG, and knew about Robbie visiting him, so they talked and Robbie revealed to him (I learned about this on N2). After which Yaro spoke to ATPG, claimed scanner, to protect robbie's identity.

On day 2, I had more talks with ATPG, and he proposed that I should vote for Yaropolk, to reduce the chances that he would be attacked at night, mafia don't kill scummy players, right? :grin:

On night 2, Robbie scanned me, and sent the result to Yaro, and then Yaro PMed me this.

Romanic,

I'm an investigator

You're the red oracle guard
ATPG is the high priest of 12 gods
You got a copy of the high priest result last night.

Convinced? Please tell me what do you know about robbiecon.

Yaro

My reply to him.


Very convincing. :laugh4:

Actually I knew about your scan result of ATPG because he told me about your PM. What I wasn't sure is if that scan result came from you or another scanner, but now I do.

How does it work? Do you get to choose who also receives a copy?

On robbiecon, I don't know anything about him. My vote is a pressure vote, to get him talking.

Then Yaro tells me a secret, :lol:

That's somewhat disturbing regarding ATPG. I specifically warned him not to give you my identiy until you're scanned and cleared. Do you have any useful powers?
Robbiecon is another pro town power role, take the pressure off him please.

The discussion with Yaro continues, my next reply:



Hmm, I wouldn't worry about ATPG. He talked to me after I told him about receiving a scan result from an unknown oracle. I'm guessing he trusted me because I trusted him first, and he's the reason why I pressured you yesterday.

We wanted to see your reaction, and we also wanted to throw suspicions at a possible Town scanner, to keep the mafia off your back at night.

Anyway- unless you don't trust your scan results, ATPG is cleared right? The PM I received stated that I was certain ATPG was innocent.

Also, Robbie being another pro town role?! Ugh okay, I'll remove my vote.

On my role, I think that the Green Guard will also be around, because we're on vacation together in Azure City. He's likely to be Town, like me, but I'm not certain. In the story, the Red Guard always tells the truth, and the Green Guard always lies, so he could be anti-town, maybe.

However my take is that we are up against the Linear Guild, one of the antagonist group in OOTS, so the mafia roles would be: Nale, Sabine and Thog (or maybe Pompey). We've seen Sabine kill pever last night, and she's likely the one who killed Double A on night 1.

Then robbie contacted me because I was one of his guard.

Hello Romanic,

I know you are the Red Oracle guard. I am The Oracle, and I can prophesize each night. I may choose a target to prophesize about, and someone to hear it. I chose you as the first person to hear it. So you heard that ATPG was The High Priest of the Twelve Gods. I know both of you are innocent.

The person I sent the second prophecy to was Yaropolk, and I investigated you btw.

Yaropolk is a tracker, he sees people who enter other people's rooms, and saw me look at ATPG on night 1. He watched ATPG again last night but no-one approached him.

That's all I have for now, if you are a protector of some kind it would be appreciated, and now that we have 4 confirmed innocents, and only 7 left to choose from, we should be able to make a decent attempt at winning.
So Robbie was the real scanner, nice plays to protect our scanners :grin:

My reply to him... Notice that I was still worried that ATPG could have been a godfather.

Thanks for the info, and your trust, sending me your first night result :)

When I got that night result, I immediately told ATPG about it (because the PM said he was innocent), and ATPG told me in return that Yaropolk contacted him about his role. We thought that Yaro was a 2nd scanner, but your explanations clear that up.

Now, be careful about assuming that ATPG is Town, it would make sense to have a Godfather around. The same applies to me of course.

About my role, I am vanilla unfortunately, so I can't protect you. Maybe the Green Guard can... I know he's around because my role PM says we're on vacation together in Azure City.

Robbie's next reply. He chose not to tell ATPG :grin:

ATPG is the one guy I haven't gone running to. Although the fact that Yaropolk isn't dead might point towards him being innocent. At the same time, you'd be able to join the dots, so it would have been a risky deed when there's loose ends around.

For now I don't really know what to say. Perhaps Renata is a good enough idea for the lynch. As for Green Guard, well I wouldn't know where to start looking. And the only point me coming out openly and declaring my role would be if I hit a mafiat, but given that I have a few contacts behind the scenes, and it's not a big game, I reckon 3 votes (even if we don't fully trust ATPG) should be sufficient to start a bandwagon.


Later on D3, I sent this to Robbie, giving away all the knowledge I gathered.


ATPG: High priest of the 12 moons, scanned innocent by you on N1.
Beskar: Claimed to be an unnamed paladin (privately to me)
Cecil: ...
God Emperor: Claimed being Elan, the bard of OOTS (privately to me), and vanilla.
Renata: Claimed vanilla, privately.
Robbiecon: The all powerful Oracle :P
Romanic: Red Guard, vanilla.
Secura: Claimed Guard Captain, and vanilla (in the game thread).
Seon: Claimed mason publicly. Revealed that his mason partner was Captain Blackadder. His role is Kazumi Kato.
Yaropolk: Tracker.
YLC: ...

Some thoughts:

- Sabine, the N1 and N2 killer, is member of the Linear Guild. They're likely the mafia team, so their roles should be Nale (their leader), Sabine and Thog.

- Since Nale is Elan's twin brother, I think it's possible that GE would be a Godfather, immuned to your power. In my opinion you shouldn't waste a scan on him. Also, I spoke a lot with GE about this game and I have a good feeling about him.

- Beskar's claim: unnamed paladin, is extremely suspicious if you ask me.

For the record, I think it could be dangerous to share this new info with ATPG and even Yaropolk, but you're the Oracle and you see the future, so I'll leave it to your wisdom. :smile:

One question: Did Yaropolk tell you what is role was? I can't find which character would fit as a tracker, except Belkar but he's dead. Putting a name on his role would somewhat validate his innocence, call me paranoid, heh.

Again I am trying to keep ATPG away from this knowledge, and even Yaropolk. I was definitely paranoid about a godfather.

Robbie's answer.

He never said who he was. But the fact he approached me after seeing me scanning ATPG might suggest that he is indeed innocent. So what should we do for the lynch then?

My next reply to Robbie.


Not sure who to lynch, but I'd be happy with any of these: Beskar, Cecil, Renata, YLC.

Don't worry about the 2 votes on you, I will be around until the deadline and will make sure you are not lynched. Don't claim!

After Cecil's lynch, I learned from ATPG that YLC was Durkon, so I ran to tell Robbie.

Hi Robbie,

YLC claimed being Durkon, a doctor (makes sense, Durkon is the OOTS cleric in the comics)

Renata claimed Lord Hinjo, and said her strength is high enough to survive some night attack. (not sure that I believe her).

So we have a role for everyone, and we lynched a scum today. Things are going great :)

Most suspicious players are, I think: Beskar, GE and Renata.

Another PM from Robbie:

So anyone in particular you think we should scan? That being both myself and Yaropolk, the tracker. Also, I think I'll send the information to YLC tonight, the doctor claim seems believable, and I can only send info to a person once.

I'd probably scan God Emperor, although there are certainly good cases for all three. Personally I just think Beskar is being Beskar. But Renata has made some uncharcateristic slip-ups.

Which I never had time to answer, so Robbie picked Renata as the next scan target. And then I received a PM titled "Urgent: OotS - Renata" :laugh4:


I scanned Renata, and sent it to Secura.

But Renata came back as Sabine of the Linear Guild!

My reply,


Yes!! Awesome Robbie :sweetheart:

My advice: Do not vote for Renata yet, it's better to see where she will place her vote, to gain information about her possible teammate.

We will lynch Renata at the end of the day, but we don't have to show our cards just yet.

Who else knows about this? Yaro?

My last PM about the game, to ATPG, because he was at work the whole time I was online that day, but I had many talks with ATPG, this resume doesn't show it well because most of it happened on messenger.


Renata was scanned as Sabine last night. :laugh4:

I asked you earlier to vote GE to see how she would vote, if Beskar and God Emperor were equal candidates, but that's not possible anymore with everyone piling on her.

Considering how I pushed Beskar and how he replied, I think GE is the remaining mafia. He claimed Elan and we're looking for Nale, his twin brother in the story, so it's a plausible cover that would be immune to scans (as a godfather).

And there's this story of GE giving away my role to Renata like 10 minutes after I claimed to him. Renata first said Secura told her about that, but Secura never did, so my guess is that Renata fumbled the ball and had to use her partner, GE, as an alibi.

I think we're good till the finish line. :)

I also had many talks thru Messenger with God Emperor, ATPG, Renata and some with Secura/Beskar, all very enjoyable and interesting but I won't bother filtering through my logs to show them here.

Robbie's behavior in the game thread is one example why it's a good idea to lurk, for a pro-town power role. He had enough player supporting him behind the scenes, that he shouldn't worry about appearances. Because of it, the mafia never suspected that he was our big guy. I'm all against lurkers, but in this case :2thumbsup:

And about pever's role, it was interesting. Knowing him, I bet he was waiting to revive a mafia !! :grin: Good thing he was night killed before that happened.

[Romanic]

I've been using the term "Godfather" to describe a mafia player immune to scan results. Maybe it isn't the right term, but that's what I meant. :embarassed:

What else is a godfather?

[Secura]

A mafia role that cannot be killed until it's partners/underlings are.

[Romanic]

A mafia role that cannot be killed until it's partners/underlings are.
Ahh, of course. :P

[Beskar]

A mafia role that cannot be killed until it's partners/underlings are.

Not 100% true, it is the Leader of the mafia, for example "Dark Samus/Samus" or the recruiting member of the party.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks for the game, Diamondeye.

I can see where there were some balancing elements to the game, and things didn't turn out so well for the mafia to take advantage of those. If a strength victory were possible early, I get it.

[Diamondeye]

Thanks for the game, Diamondeye.

I can see where there were some balancing elements to the game, and things didn't turn out so well for the mafia to take advantage of those. If a strength victory were possible early, I get it.

Just before Cecil's lynch, The Linear Guild had 29 strength to the town's 47.

Now imagine if they had killed someone else but pever (whose strength didn't count either way until he joined up) and pever decided to revive Cecil...

Myeah, I conceived it as balanced. I have to give a serious thumbs up to Robbiecon and Yaropolk for their fine powerroleplay, though.

[robbiecon]

Role PM:


Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: The Oracle
"Geez, I can peer into the murky depths of the future, and yet I always seem to get interrupted during bath time."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 2
Abilities: Prophesize - Every night, you can learn the true identity of another player. You must target someone else to "hear" the prophecy, and you can never target the same player twice.

Background:
The Oracle is a Kobold blessed with the gift of prophetic powers by Tiamat, the God of Dragons and All Things Scaly. These powers allow the Oracle to accurately tell the future, and that's a useful power - especially when you want to be rich! The Oracle understands the fundamentals of supply and demand, though, and he goes a long way to make sure that his services are exclusive. For that reason, the Oracle is working under the rule that every person can only have one prophecy: one question answered. It occassionally has to stretch it a little, but combined with the three (very cliché) tests that are required to arrive at the Oracle, and the great value of the product (truth!), each prophecy still nets a fine price!

In this alternate timeline, however, Tiamat himself has ordered your presence within the Palace of Azure City. It's not the best place for a kobold, but obviously Tiamat has some reason to believe that your powers are necessary here. Finding the culprit behind this crime might be it - you cannot tell for sure. The Palace is the epicentre of the worship of the Twelve Gods, none of which are too fond of Tiamat, and it is sheltered somewhat from divine and arcane spells alike. You find that entering the Oracular Trance is too hard to do more than once every night, and you cannot tell the future. Your divine insight allows you to discern the true identity of another person, though, but you must share this information with someone else, and the usual restrictions apply. Luckily, you also employ a memory gambit which means that whoever you choose to share your prophecies with will not remember your identity, only the relevant divination.


Well I'm glad of a town victory, my name is more synonymous with mafia victories. Thanks for the compliments everyone. But I suppose some of what happened was sheer luck. My original plan for Night 1 was to scan Romanic, and for some odd reason I decided to do the complete opposite and scan ATPG (you can never be too sure, even after scanning him, I was still wary that he could turn out as a Godfather).

If it hadn't been for this change-over, Yaropolk would never have seen me. When he approached me, I decided to simply tell him the truth, that I'd scanned Askthepizzaguy, and the result deemed he was innocent. I also think I told him I had sent the result to Romanic, so the underground unit had pretty much been set up already.

I decided to scan Romanic the second night, just so I could be sure, and sent the result to Yaropolk to prove what I was. Then Night 3, I chose Renata, although I was gonna go for God Emperor (not that it would have mattered anyway). Sent the result to Secura, which was another last minute change of mind, as YLC had been my initial target to hear the prophecy. I gub ess I knew Secura was being more vocal in thread, and would have mentioned it, whereas YLC was just about saved from WOG.

Really enjoyable game Diamondeye, Nice job :thumbsup:

[Diamondeye]

Role PMs!

"Belkar, Serial Killer"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Belkar Bitterleaf
"I AM A SEXY, SHOELESS GOD OF WAR!"

Victory Condition: Serial Killer: Outlive every other player.
Combat Strength: 14
Abilities: Murder - every night, you must target another player whom you will then attack and attempt to kill.

Background:
Belkar Bitterleaf is commonly agreed to be the least agreeable (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement) member of the Order of the Stick; In fact, the other five members of the party are often barely (un-)able to rein in his murderous tendencies. In the real storyline, Belkar is only tolerated because the Order of the Stick manages to turn his brutal tendencies against the bad guys (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicSociopath).
This is not the case in this game: This is the opportunity you have been waiting for to get rid of the rest of the Order of the Stick, as well as anything else that bleeds when you stick a knife in it!
Belkar is not a complete monster (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompleteMonster), though; he has his (if rather scarce) soft sides: His other profession (apart from mass-murder for kicks and giggles, if you were in doubt), is gourmet cooking (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealMenWearPink), and he looks up to and adores Lord Shojo - yes, you guessed it, the regent of Azure city whom the mafia just murdered - and has a soft spot for Shojo's (now abandoned) cat, Mr. Scruffles.
No-one touches Mr. Scruffles! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BerserkButton)

Classwise, Belkar is a halfling Ranger/Barbarian, Chaotic Evil and, as he likes to re-iterate when standing on the top of a veritable mountain of slaughtered foes, a "sexy, shoeless god of war".

Note that youre strength is the highest in the game; You are impervious to attacks.

Enclosed in the spoiler below is your cover role. Be aware that you can show up as this role in the writeups when killing (indeed, I advice you to do so).
If you have any questions, feel free to respond to this PM with them - or start a Quicktopic where you can ponder your moves and ask me questions as the game proceeds.

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Miko Miyazaki
"My blades will be bathed in the blood of those responsible!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 14
Abilities: Bringer of Justice - every night, you must attack another player in your hunt for the villains.

Background:
Miko Miyazaki is the most powerful paladin of the Sapphire Guard. Her dedication to Lord Shojo and the Twelve Gods is unparallelled, and she is willing to go great lengths and take to desperate measures to protect what she has sworn to keep safe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IDidWhatIHadToDo). In the real OotS timeline, this blind devotion to justice (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightTemplar), coupled with a self-reliance that rapidly spins out of control, she ends up falling from the ranks of paladins (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FallenHero) by slaying Lord Shojo himself in a hysteria of paranoid mistrust and completely insane leaps of "logic" (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeroicBSOD). In this timeline, however, she is loyal first and foremost to the Sapphire Guard, and she is the Paladin who arrived first at the scene of Shojo's death and avenges him by killing the Dark Elf assassin. Her devotion to justice commands her to keep actively searching for the villains who are behind this first attack, and who undoubtedly are out to destroy Azure City itself.

In short, Miko Miyazaki is a fanatic, in the pursuit of justice and willing to cut a path to it if she has to.

Note that youre strength is the highest in the game; You are impervious to attacks.

"Nale, Mafia"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Nale
"Because no one denies me, Elan. Not father, not you, no one."

Victory Condition: Mafia: The Linear Guild outnumber all other players alive.
Combat Strength: 8
Abilities: Murder - At night, someone from your team must attack another player in an attempt to kill them.

Background:
Nale is the evil twin (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin) of Elan, the bard of the Order of the Stick. He's the complete opposite of his brother in terms of personality, being an evil egoist who is adept at manipulating and deceiving people with his natural charisma, and as any villain worth his salt, he is of course plotting to take over the world. His previous attempts have all been failures, though, and the last one was actively thwarted by the Order of the Stick. This failure did however lead Nale to learn of the Gates, a series of powerful constructions that tap into the raw nature of the world and which can grant overwhelming power to those who can control them. One of these gates are in Azure City, more precisely mounted on the throne of Lord Shojo in the form of a large Sapphire.

Nale is the leader of the Linear Guild, the evil counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) to the Order of the Stick, although they have lately discarded the idea of accurately mirroring the entire Order because it is absolutely impossible to find any competent sidekicks. Therefore, as it is, The Linear Guild now consists of Nale himself, his demonic girlfriend Sabine, and the orc warrior Thok, the dumb muscle of the group.

In appearance, Nale and Elan look exactly alike apart from two minor details, both of which can be amended without much trouble; having to hide your left-handedness (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ASinisterClue) is easy enough, and getting rid of the evil goatee (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeardOfEvil) is a matter of a close shave. There, you're ready to pose as Elan, your stupid do-good brother!


Enclosed in the spoiler below is your cover role.
If you have any questions, feel free to respond to this PM with them - or start a Quicktopic where you can ponder your moves and ask me questions as the game proceeds.


Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Elan
(Singing:) "Move, move, move silently across the battlefield..."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 8
Abilities: None.

Background:
Elan is the bard of the Order of the Stick, and very much lives up to that role; he is (almost) always the best at keeping up his (and, occassionally, the party's) spirits, always with a funny and astoundingly stupid remark or a earhanging and extremely annoying ditty of a song, often with lyrics that give away whatever the group is trying to do by blatantly revealing their plan ("bluff, bluff, bluff the stupid ogre"). When it comes to insight and intelligence, Elan isn't a top hitter (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Understatement), but he can be dangerously genre savvy (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DangerouslyGenreSavvy), which is often worth a lot when you happen to be one of the main characters of a work of fiction.

Lately, in order to rescue his beloved Haley from the clutches of his evil twin, Nale, he took a level of Dashing Swordsman (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass), which made him at least half-way competent in melee combat, but he is still sorily lacking other useful skills. In combat, Elan fights with a Rapier (and, due to a bonus from his recently aquired prestige class, his rapier wit (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PungeonMaster)). Out of combat, he fiddles a lute and plays with his puppets (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Cloudcuckoolander), whom he is trying to found a religion around, without much succes.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Thog, Mafia"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Thog
"Thog like breaking stuff!"

Victory Condition: Mafia: The Linear Guild outnumber all other players alive.
Combat Strength: 10
Abilities: Murder - At night, someone from your team must attack another player in an attempt to kill them.

Background:
Thog is an orc barbarian (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DumbMuscle) - that would actually be an adequate statement to sum up 99% of his personality in one fell scoop. He's downright stupid (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Cloudcuckoolander), with an only rudimentary grasp of language, (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HulkSpeak) he has very little idea that what he is dragged along in is actually evil (indeed, he seems to have a lot of nice qualities; he loves cute puppies (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle1sym9lu7), among other things) and he is mainly tagging along because he thinks of Nale and Sabine as his friends (and because they buy him all the icecream he can eat in order to stop him from breaking things). While Thog is meant to be the Evil Counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) of Roy, the warrior of the Order of the Stick, but he seems to have a certain likeness to Elan, the bard, in that they are both a bit dimwitted, and seem to share certain infantile (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PsychopathicManchild) qualities as well. They even briefly paired up (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OddFriendship) to perform a daring escape from a prison so Elan could get to Azure City and rescue his beloved Haley from Nale (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilTwin).


Enclosed in the spoiler below is your cover role.
If you have any questions, feel free to respond to this PM with them - or start a Quicktopic where you can ponder your moves and ask me questions as the game proceeds.

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Green Oracle Guard
"Oh, you're such a liar!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 10
Abilities: None.

Background:
As part of one of the three tests (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightsAndKnaves) one must pass in order to arrive at the Oracle, the Green Oracle Guard is the person who always lies, whereas his counterpart, the Red Oracle Guard, always tells the truth. While this riddle is an age-old classic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyThink), certain tendencies in today's adventurers (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuttingTheKnot) has led to a significant risk of work-related injuries (luckily, non-fatal so far). So, uhm, in this alternate storyline, the Oracle has taken mercy on the pair of you and let you take a vacation in Azure city before returning to guard duty. Considering he can tell the future, the fact that you end up locked in a palace with a band of murderers and the Order of the Stick (who were the original perpetrators of the work-related incidents (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html)), you take it that your boss isn't too fond of people asking for vacation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HintDropping).

Note that you do not have to adhere to the "lies only"-restriction. Nevertheless, it would be fun to see pulled off :beam:

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Sabine, Mafia"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Sabine
"... Oh, sorry, I kind of got distracted after you said the word 'three-way'."

Victory Condition: Mafia: The Linear Guild outnumber all other players alive.
Combat Strength: 11
Abilities: Murder - At night, someone from your team must attack another player in an attempt to kill them.

Background:
Sabine is the second-in-command of the Linear Guild, the companion of Nale (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnholyMatrimony), and unarguably the evil counterpart (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilCounterpart) of Haley Starshine, the rogue from the Order of the Stick. She's also a very seductive succubus (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilIsSexy) who seems to find her job extremely exciting (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IfYouKnowWhatIMean). It is implied that she tags along with the Linear Guild to further the goals of some greater evil (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DragonWithAnAgenda), but she has a personal grudge against the Order of the Stick as well, so there's plenty of reasons to keep in line, at the moment. That pretty much sums up the two major factors of Sabine's personality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HornyDevils); Evil and... cammeraderie. And she's good at making friends (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReallyGetsAround).

Sabine has the ability to shapeshift into any human form, which is why the palace of the Azure City is now completely closed, putting only a handful of obstacles between yourselves and your goal; Soon's Gate, lodged on the throne in the shape of a Sapphire (and unable to me moved). You had planned for the failure of Zz'dtri in advance, assuming the shape of Hinjo, heir to Azure City and now properly the Lord of the palace.

Enclosed in the spoiler below is your cover role.
If you have any questions, feel free to respond to this PM with them - or start a Quicktopic where you can ponder your moves and ask me questions as the game proceeds.

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Lord Hinjo
"I am the commander of the Sapphire Guard, and I am here to make you pay for your crimes against my city!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 11
Abilities: None.

Background:
Hinjo is the leader of the Sapphire Guard, the Order of paladins serving as Azure City's elite force, originally founded by Master Soon. He is the nephew of the now late Lord Shojo, and the heir to the Sapphire Throne. He is a paladin in heart and soul, proud and noble and with a strong sense of justice. He puts the lives and well-being of his people ahead of his own safety, and in the original timeline, he is willing to sacrifice his own means of escape from a doomed city to save a few hundred civilians. He has every motivation to root out those who would threaten the city that has now fallen under his command, and must assume the heavy mantle of leadership that now befalls him.

Although Hinjo is a very capable fighter, he does not possess any powers that could assist in the apprehension of a criminal in such a case as this; Hinjo has always been more of a battlefield general than anything else, and he is not especially flexible in his thoughts or actions.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Durkon, Pro-town"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Durkon Thundershield
"I stay 'ere because it's me duty. And bein' a dwarf is all about doin' yer duty, even if it makes ye miserable. ESPECIALLY if it makes ye miserable!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 10
Abilities: Cleric's Oath - Every night, you can choose another player to protect. The attacker will then have to compete against your strength before being able to harm your target (the target will only die if the attacker's strength is higher than yours and the target's combined strength, but if the attacker is stronger than you, you will die).

Background:
Durkon Thundershield is the dwarven cleric of the Order of the Stick; He believes in honor and ideals (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WillNotTellALie), and (as all real dwarves) he insists that nothing is more important than doing your duty (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HonorBeforeReason). Since Durkon is the only member of the Order who possess any kind of healing spells, most of Durkon's duties include looking out for the rest of the party and cure all of their ailments (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CombatMedic) from hangnails through wounds (light, moderate, serious and critical) up to and including death.

In this timeline, not much is different; Durkon is among the strongest people locked in the Azure City Palace, and looking out for the innocent bystanders of a crime, as well as his friends in the Order of the Stick, who are stuck here and in great peril, is still the duty he is performing. Durkon is quite the brave warrior, not counting his fright of trees (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes), and he talks (and even writes) in a somewhat peculiar accent (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FunetikAksent) that takes some getting used to.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Haley, Pro-town"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Haley Starshine
"Winning the battle isn't on the table anymore. Surviving the battle is the priority now, and it's slipping away fast."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 7
Abilities: Sneaky - Every night, you may track another player to find out who (if any) they are targetting.

Background:
Haley Starshine is the second-in-command (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NumberTwo) of the Order of the Stick; in the beginning of their adventures, Haley seemed almost solely concerned with the loot (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Greed), but throughout their adventures together - helped along by an array of extraordinary events such as having her father kidnapped, finding the love of her life, and losing six bags of gold each the size of a rhinoceros in an explosion - she's developed a more sympathic personality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CharacterDevelopment).

When it's down to business, though, Haley's still willing to take to dirty tricks (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCombatPragmatist) - which probably makes a lot of sense considering that her class is rogue (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoveableRogue) - and in times of crisis, she's ever the one to keep her head cool, get a good look at the situation, and if necessary employ the all-time favourite Plan B of the Order of the Stick: Run away!

When not hindered by emotional distress and linguistic dysfunction (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CypherLanguage), Haley's easily one of the smartest people of the Order of the Stick (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheLancer). She's a cute, redheaded rogue (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedHeadedHero) who's ready to put all of her talents to use to further the ultimately good cause of the Order. By employing her skills at stealth and subtlety, Haley is able to follow other people around without being detected. This could be a most useful way of finding the remaining killers in the palace.

"Oracle, Pro-town"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: The Oracle
"Geez, I can peer into the murky depths of the future, and yet I always seem to get interrupted during bath time."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 2
Abilities: Prophesize - Every night, you can learn the true identity of another player. You must target someone else to "hear" the prophecy, and you can never target the same player twice.

Background:
The Oracle (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadpanSnarker) is a Kobold blessed with the gift of prophetic powers (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Seers) by Tiamat, the God of Dragons and All Things Scaly (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LizardFolk). These powers allow the Oracle to accurately tell the future, and that's a useful power - especially when you want to be rich! The Oracle understands the fundamentals of supply and demand, though, and he goes a long way to make sure that his services are exclusive. For that reason, the Oracle is working under the rule that every person can only have one prophecy: one question answered. It occassionally has to stretch it a little, but combined with the three (very cliché) tests that are required to arrive at the Oracle, and the great value of the product (truth!), each prophecy still nets a fine price!

In this alternate timeline, however, Tiamat himself has ordered your presence within the Palace of Azure City. It's not the best place for a kobold, but obviously Tiamat has some reason to believe that your powers are necessary here. Finding the culprit behind this crime might be it - you cannot tell for sure. The Palace is the epicentre of the worship of the Twelve Gods, none of which are too fond of Tiamat, and it is sheltered somewhat from divine and arcane spells alike. You find that entering the Oracular Trance is too hard to do more than once every night, and you cannot tell the future. Your divine insight allows you to discern the true identity of another person, though, but you must share this information with someone else, and the usual restrictions apply. Luckily, you also employ a memory gambit which means that whoever you choose to share your prophecies with will not remember your identity, only the relevant divination.

"Vaarsavius, Pro-town"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Vaarsavius
"I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. Quickly, please, before they are out of range."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 10
Abilities: Scry - At night, you can keep watch over another player, detecting anyone who visit them in their sleep.
Disintegrate - You can also choose to attack another player, killing them if their strength is lower than yours. This permanently lowers your strength by 1, no matter the outcome of the attack.

You may only do one action every night.

Background:
Vaarsavius is the elven Wizard of the Order of the Stick, and the most powerful in terms of sheer firepower (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisintegratorRay). The downside of this is V's fragility in close combat (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GlassCannon), as well as his/her (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmbiguousGender) load of weak spots - V is not physically strong or of good constitution, comes off as a distanced loner who often treats others to either a good deal of snarking and sarcasm (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadpanSnarker), or overly long speeches (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SesquipedalianLoquaciousness) that exposes V's pride (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Pride) more than his/her actual intelligence (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsufferableGenius). V also seems to lack a high enough wisdom score to have developed a moral compass of any consquence (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AntiHero), although his time with the Order of the Stick is gradually beginning to repair at least the personal flaws, if not that of his stats.

V is in many ways an egocentric; he/she (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PronounTrouble) believes that, given enough time, he/she has the inteliigence and power to solve any problem. Obviously, things don't work out that way, which is why V is lucky to have the Order of the Stick around to help in times of need. V's underlying personality is still determined to do his/her best to solve every problem that the group encounters, however, and when faced by enemies who are out to kill you, logic quite clearly states that the best method of defense is a good attack (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MurderIsTheBestSolution); permanently disabling your enemies (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DisproportionateRetribution) is a good way of making sure that they can never get back at you, and as V has the power to do so, it also falls as his/her responsibility.

Note that you are one of the very few characters in the game to have multiple abilities available to you. You may only use one every night.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Tsukiko, Neutral"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Tsukiko
"Besides, they were the ones who threw ME into prison for being different — for understanding that a pulse is not a prerequisite for being loved! They all got exactly what they deserved!"

Victory Condition: Neutral: You survive to the end of the game.
Combat Strength: 8
Abilities: Reanimation - Once during the game, you may reanimate a dead player. This forces you to win with the team of that player, and that team only. Note that the player will not actually be restored to life, but that he/she will still be counted when determining if a team has won, and can be lynched again.
Necroempathy - The dead may reveal otherwise forbidden information to you in private. You can ask me to confirm this to them, also in private.

Background:
Tsukiko is a Mystical Theurge (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilSorcerer) and ex-prisoner of the Sapphire Guard. In the original storyline, she ends up teaming up with Xykon and the rest of "Team Evil", where she has plenty of occassions to put her dark magics at work (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DarkActionGirl), and partake in her great passion, The Undead (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Necromancer). Tsukiko loves the undead (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ILoveTheDead) - Yes, in that way (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Squick) - because something has convinced her that the living are horrible people (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumansAreBastards), and that, because the undead are the antithesis to the living (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic), they must be good. In the original storyline, one of the reasons she teams up with Xykon - who is a lich - is that she hopes that he will eventually fall for her (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HorribleJudgeOfCharacter).

Her outlook on the world (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LightIsNotGood) taints pretty much all aspects of her personality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Goth), and she is not the keenest social interactor (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VainSorceress), mainly because very few people actually want to have anything to do with her. In this alternate timeline, Tsukiko does not know of the existence of Xykon or his plans to attack Azure city; she has simply broken out from the Azure City prison during the commotion around Lord Shojo's death and is now caught inside the palace, only hoping to escape alive. She cares not who wins, but is willing to ally whoever seems to have the upper hand and put her considerable powers to their assistance.

Note that you are one of the very few characters in the game to have multiple abilities available to you.

Note that your combat strength is high enough to potentially save you from a night attack.

"Daigo, Mason"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Daigo
"Kazumi... is a pretty name... "

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 6
Abilities: Lovers - You know Kazumi Kato (Seon) to be innocent.

Background:
Daigo was a normal soldier in the army of Azure city (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Redshirt), and in the original timeline, one of the few lucky survivors of the attack of Xykon's armies, primarily because he managed to speak his name before dying (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NominalImportance), thus elevating himself (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MauveShirt) from the role of an unknown person. This near-death episode - where Daigo and Kazumi only survive by telling each other their names - makes them realize that they are meant for each other. Later, they are married (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HappilyMarried). In this alternate timeline, that relation is still present, even if the underlying series of events are not.

If the two of you start a quicktopic to discuss the game, please provide me with a link to it.

"Kazumi, Mason"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Kazumi Kato
"Wow. I guess having a name really DOES matter. "

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 5
Abilities: Lovers - You know Daigo (Captain Blackadder) to be innocent.

Background:
Kazumi Kato was just an ordinary soldier (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt) in the army of Azure City, until - in the original storyline, that is - Xykon attacked the city and killed almost everybody. Kazumi and a fellow guard, Daigo, are saved at the verge of death by pronouncing their names (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NominalImportance), thus advancing their importance to the story. This also makes them realize their true feelings for each other, and they end up sticking together and surviving, ultimately ending up as a married couple (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HappilyMarried).
In this alternate timeline, that relation is still present, even if the underlying series of events are not.

If the two of you start a quicktopic to discuss the game, please provide me with a link to it.

"Guard Captain, Townie"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Guard Captain
"You'll never take this city while I'm alive, monster!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 4
Abilities: None.

Background:
The Guard Captain (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt) of the Sapphire Guard is very much ready to die for his city. Which is more or less exactly what he does, in the original storyline. At least, he is killed off by one of the tougher enemies. Still, you can't quite shake the feeling that it would be even better to make it through the mess of this alternate timeline completely alive.

"High Priest of the Twelve Gods, Townie"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: High Priest of the Twelve Gods
"Halt, I am the High Priest of the Twelve Gods (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin)!

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 5
Abilities: None.

Background:
The High Priest of the Twelve Gods... It sure sounds impressive, doesn't it? Well, unfortunately, it's not. Compared to your fellow NPCs, you hold power beyond imagination, but compared to the large flock of PCs and plot-relevant characters, you're an easily-disposable obstacle in the way of the villains. Well, in the original timeline, anyway. In this alternate timeline, you have been granted a second chance to prove your mettle against the culprits who would dare attack Azure City!

Just make sure to check your dice rolls properly, it might save you (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IncrediblyLamePun).

"Red Oracle Guard, Townie"
Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Red Oracle Guard
"You're the liar!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 5
Abilities: None.

Background:
As part of one of the three tests (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightsAndKnaves) one must pass in order to arrive at the Oracle, the Green Oracle Guard is the person who always lies, whereas his counterpart, the Red Oracle Guard, always tells the truth. While this riddle is an age-old classic (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OlderThanTheyThink), certain tendencies in today's adventurers (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CuttingTheKnot) has led to a significant risk of work-related injuries (luckily, non-fatal so far). So, uhm, in this alternate storyline, the Oracle has taken mercy on the pair of you and let you take a vacation in Azure city before returning to guard duty. Considering he can tell the future, the fact that you end up locked in a palace with a band of murderers and the Order of the Stick (who were the original perpetrators of the work-related incidents (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0327.html)), you take it that your boss isn't too fond of people asking for vacation (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HintDropping).

Note that you do not have to adhere to the "truth only"-restriction. Nevertheless, it would be fun to see pulled off :beam:


"Sapphire Guard Paladin, Townie"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Sapphire Guard Paladin
"Wait, stop! What are you doing-!"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 6
Abilities: None.

Background:
One of the standard Paladins (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt) of the Sapphire Guard, your sworn duty is to protect the Lord of the City and the Throne room. While you seem to have failed your Lord, you will not fail your people by letting the murderers who are loose in the Palace claim the Sapphire Throne. Due to the fact that this game is taking place in an alternate timeline to the original, your fate is not to be killed by fellow Paladins afflicted by a Symbol of Insanity. You rather hope that you will actually make it out of the Throne Room alive in this timeline!

"That guy with a halberd, Townie"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: That Guy with a Halberd
"Wait — was that oil hot?"

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 4
Abilities: None.

Background:
An ordinary soldier (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt) in the Azure City Army, That Guy with a Halberd (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoNameGiven) appears in only a single strip of the ordinary comic. He does so well though, that the readers are asking to have him back! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSceneWonder) Unfortunately, in this alternate reality, that strip has not even happened - and may never do - but you must fight your best to live to that day, for your moment of glory. Or forge your own moment of glory by helping to apprehend the culprits behind the murder of Lord Shojo!

"Wizard on teleport duty, Townie"

Order of the Stick Mafia
Role PM

Character: Wizard on Teleport Duty
"I coulda been a baker, you know."

Victory Condition: Innocent: All enemies of the town are eliminated.
Combat Strength: 3
Abilities: None.

Background:
The Wizard on Teleport Duty originally joins the Order of the Stick because they are given a task by Lord Shojo that requires teleporting them to-and-fro. And for that, you have a NPC, of course! In the alternate timeline, he does end up killed, after protesting that nobody appreciates his services and drowning his sorrows in sake. In this timeline, however, he's still alive. You have a chance to survive this ordeal and finally quit Wizarding and go back to being a baker like you always wanted. You can almost smell the cherry turnovers already...

Unfortunately, the Palace is warded against teleportation spells. It seems your only talents are useless in this situation!

[Askthepizzaguy]

[CENTER]Role PMs!

"Beskar, Serial Killer"


:laugh4:

See, Beskar? I knew we should have lynched you. All that drama about being innocent and annoyed at the suspicion was all an act....

[Diamondeye]

:laugh4:

See, Beskar? I knew we should have lynched you. All that drama about being innocent and annoyed at the suspicion was all an act....

:laugh4: I misspelled it "beskar" in the filename aswell.

[Beskar]

:cry:

[Double A]

I really got shafted by random.org, eh?

[Diamondeye]

I really got shafted by random.org, eh?

At least you were large about it :wink:


I target myself with my nonexistant abilities :yes:

[Secura]

I really got shafted by random.org, eh?

Welcome to my world? :P

Diamondeye: t'was a fun game, lots of effort into the roles (and the TVTrope links!), lots of activity... sorry I didn't get into it, though. :3

[Diamondeye]

Welcome to my world? :P

Diamondeye: t'was a fun game, lots of effort into the roles (and the TVTrope links!), lots of activity... sorry I didn't get into it, though. :3

Glad you liked it. I think putting a lot of work into role PMs is worth it, but perhaps especially so if when I am hosting my first large game :yes:

[Double A]

Welcome to my world? :P

Diamondeye: t'was a fun game, lots of effort into the roles (and the TVTrope links!), lots of activity... sorry I didn't get into it, though. :3

Halebard? Shafted? Yes? No? Canada?