View Full Version : Small Mafia Game The Pisonian Conspiracy [Concluded]
Captain Blackadder
01-21-2011, 06:35
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One of the Grand Speakers of Rome stands up and gives the latest news to come out of Rome.
The Year is 65 CE or the year of Pomponius and Anicius. We are currently in the Reign of the grand Emperor Nero he who has ruled with great courage and intelligence in this harsh time. We are now entering a glory ago for Rome with the Christians rightfully put in their place following their burning of our fine Capital. Nero has built up many great buildings for the Glory of Rome. However this is not enough for some people and I have being informed that there was to be a plot against our great leaders life. Whilst we do know that there is a plot we do not know who was apart of it. That is what you the people of Rome need to decide who amongst you harbours ill will towards our Emperor and living God. To tell you more about this dastardly crime I present to you the Emperor of Rome Nero.
Emperor Nero stand and begins his Speech the way he begins all his speeches by reciting some rather awful poetry.
Rules must be observed.
Waiting my turn
Standing in the queue,
Popping my name in the urn,
Whose name is pulled out first?
Your emperor’s of course.
Then I sing for three hours flat.
I’m sweating. What a tour de force!
When my teacher signals
To rest my voice, I pause.
My Alexandrian sailors
Start their antiphonal applause.
What artistry!
Who wins first prize?
Whose face is reflected
in a thousand eyes?
No one else is allowed to sing.
Rules must be observed.
My fellow Romans countrymen all I know that some of you wish me ill will this fine day. Under my reign the Empire is at it's strongest we have recovered well from the toxic influence of the Christians and of the hardship suffered under Claudius. I trust that you my fellow Romans ultimately have my well being at the heart of you. Go forth and find out who it is that has ideas to take my position.
In a follow up to my Game the Catiline Conspiracy I bring you the next great moment of Roman History that is fit for a Mafia Game. Whilst this is less well known then Catiline it still has some leading figures of Roman History involved in the situation. Plus there is some confusions as to who was actually involved in it. This will broadly follow the same kind of way as my previous game with some interesting additions.
Standard Rules Apply
Sign Ups
17/17
JohnHughthom
Tiberius of the Drake
Askthepizzaguy
Secura
robbiecon
Renata
autolycus
Yaropolk
Winston Hughes
Romanic
KingWarmen88
Ironhead
Beefy187
Scumma Addict
Lord of Lent
Chimpyang
johnhughthom
01-21-2011, 22:57
I'l play Capt B, was disappointed to die early in the first.
"I'll play, if only to gain a greater understanding of the socio-political machinations of the Roman Empire's Nero-era."
That sounds more like JHT. ^
Tiberius of the Drake
01-22-2011, 03:14
:soapbox: (IN) :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
01-30-2011, 09:56
I'll join, even though I was dog food rather quickly in the last one...
johnhughthom
01-30-2011, 16:10
"I'll play, if only to gain a greater understanding of the socio-political machinations of the Roman Empire's Nero-era."
That sounds more like JHT. ^
Meh, my interest in Roman history dies with Caesar.
A much-needed bump!
If you're still gonna host this, I'll readily throw myself into some more history! :P
Captain Blackadder
03-04-2011, 11:01
I am still going to host it just started writing out roles now.
robbiecon
03-04-2011, 13:16
I'll also join you.
autolycus
03-04-2011, 16:51
Count me in!!
Yaropolk
03-04-2011, 18:28
In, and preemptively Vote: Aggripina
Winston Hughes
03-04-2011, 19:24
I'm in.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-05-2011, 21:46
Please sign me up for this!
Ironhead
03-06-2011, 02:03
I would like to be in for this game, if there is still room.
Beefy187
03-06-2011, 09:35
In if its not full :bow:
Captain Blackadder
03-06-2011, 10:57
4 more places to go.
Skooma Addict
03-06-2011, 21:42
In.
EDIT: But only if you refer to me as Scuma Addict.
Askthepizzaguy
03-07-2011, 00:53
I would like to be in for this game, if there is still room.
Ironhead is just Ironside's alternate account.
You can't fool me, scum! Vote: Ironhead
Skooma Addict
03-07-2011, 03:48
FoS: ATPG
Pre-game conspiracy theories? Typical scum meta-gaming tactic. It is you, who have failed to do the fooling...or something like that.
Askthepizzaguy
03-07-2011, 03:53
Pre-game fingers of suspicion? Typical Scuma Addict meta-gaming tactic. It is you, who have fooled yourself, shame on you, fool yourself twice, shame on you again, but you can't fool yourself three times..... who is more of a fool, the fool, or the fool who follows the fool? In conclusion.... you can't get fooled again. That's an old West Texas saying. Don't mess with Texas.
johnhughthom
03-07-2011, 04:08
Meh, Texas is old news. Washington is where it's at. Apparently.
Ironhead
03-07-2011, 04:19
Ironhead is just Ironside's alternate account.
You can't fool me, scum!I don't know who this impostor Ironside is, but I have been Ironhead on a dozen different Mafia forums since usenet days. Must I smite the pretender Ironside?
Askthepizzaguy
03-07-2011, 04:37
I don't know who this impostor Ironside is, but I have been Ironhead on a dozen different Mafia forums since usenet days. Must I smite the pretender Ironside?
Before that, you must face off against the challengers Ironlung and Ironmaiden.
johnhughthom
03-07-2011, 04:47
Heres one of them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDhV5OTsnzY
Captain Blackadder
03-07-2011, 06:19
Ok there is only two spots left so I will let it go for another day and if I don't have them then the game will start.
Lord of Lent
03-08-2011, 12:03
Let's smash this Ironhead! I'm in
Chimpyang
03-08-2011, 15:36
In.
Captain Blackadder
03-08-2011, 23:01
Excellent that game is now full and it will begin tonight my time.
johnhughthom
03-09-2011, 00:51
Excellent that game is now full and it will begin tonight my time.
So some god-forsaken hour everybody elses time? :wink:
Captain Blackadder
03-09-2011, 07:34
I can make it start at different times it would just mean that you might have to wait a while for write ups and the like since nighttime is the only time i can 100% be sure that I will be online. I am a third of the way through the role pm's.
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 13:02
Charging the infallible OMGUS ray.
:stare: Try it.
Captain Blackadder
03-09-2011, 13:31
All Role PMs are now out let the games begin.
There is to be no posting of Role PM's you may say what your role is but apart from that no revealing.
Beefy187
03-09-2011, 13:55
Vote: Beefy
We're done for. Rome is doomed :clown:
Unless we senators stands up and do something about it
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 14:24
Unless we senators stands up and do something about it
I ask that you be consistent with that and vote for someone besides yourself, sir Beefy.
Ironhead
03-09-2011, 14:50
Vote: BeefyWhy would someone vote for themselves? Is this supposed to be an indication of some sort that we're supposed to vote for him?
VOTE: BEEFY
autolycus
03-09-2011, 15:48
I vote:Lord of Lent, He sounds like one of those Middle Eastern Cultists, and they're all crazy.
Charging the infallible OMGUS ray.
:stare: Try it.
You make it SO TEMPTING right now. It's like telling a two year old not to touch the hot stove. Ow, burny!
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 16:33
Vote: Warman
Have not voted you in quite some time, if ever.
johnhughthom
03-09-2011, 17:44
Vote: Atpg
I don't remember you voting me. I be jealous.
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 17:55
Vote: Atpg
I don't remember you voting me. I be jealous.
Must.... resist.... epic.... OMGUS OF DOOM...... Must..... GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
unvote, vote: Johnhughthom
Chimpyang
03-09-2011, 20:14
*sidesteps horses for cash* Vote: Yaropolk
It's a politics joke.
Skooma Addict
03-09-2011, 20:27
I think I've voted you once in my time here at the wonderful land of orgahs. You were scum. I shall test the waters again.
Vote: Renata
It was you...ADMIT IT!!
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 20:33
That's all Renata needs. Mafia again. :laugh4:
vote: Tiberius of the Drake
Hello? Are you around?
That's all Renata needs. Mafia again. :laugh4:
I would cry, I kid you not. That reminds me, though.
vote: Romanic
Total grudge. I'll get over it eventually.
I would cry, I kid you not. That reminds me, though.
vote: Romanic
Total grudge. I'll get over it eventually.
Grudges are no good for you. :smug2:
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 22:36
Grudges are no good for you. :smug2:
I would vote for you, but you're frankly too awesome.
Winston Hughes
03-09-2011, 23:35
Vote: Atpg
:bigcry: But I can change....
vote: ATPG
Homewrecker!
Beefy187
03-10-2011, 00:07
Why would someone vote for themselves? Is this supposed to be an indication of some sort that we're supposed to vote for him?
VOTE: BEEFY
I could be a joker role... Or I could be a witty guy who likes litereture who was just trying to kick start the discussion.
Tempted to vote for ATPG, but you get my welcome vote
Vote: Ironhead
vote: Beefy187
Hi Beefy! :curtain:
PS, you forgot to bunvote, Beefy. :3
Skooma Addict
03-10-2011, 01:09
Beef and buns...*drools*
Askthepizzaguy
03-10-2011, 03:56
unvote, vote: Beefy
frightened to vote for me? Why?
unvote; vote: Lord of Lent
Let's start another bandwagon!
Beefy187
03-10-2011, 04:56
unvote, vote: Beefy
frightened to vote for me? Why?
Pizzaguy shouldn't die on day 1 that often.
Nor should anyone else. That is my Roman honour :bow:
Beefy187
03-10-2011, 05:02
PS, you forgot to bunvote, Beefy. :3
:curtain: is not enough; to be pursuasive a voter must use words, wit, playfulness, sweet-talk, and laughter to transcend the gifts of Nature
Now if you continue this sillyness, I will be forced to try. And if I try, Romanic will somehow die.
If you pity this Romanic, I suggest you all unvote me.
Askthepizzaguy
03-10-2011, 05:04
Pizzaguy shouldn't die on day 1 that often.
Nor should anyone else. That is my Roman honour :bow:
I find it impossible to maintain my aggression in the face of such a peaceful person.
I know it's going to get me killed, but I don't care.
Unvote, vote: abstain
I got nothing for this round. Someone do something.
:curtain: is not enough; to be pursuasive a voter must use words, wit, playfulness, sweet-talk, and laughter to transcend the gifts of Nature
Now if you continue this sillyness, I will be forced to try. And if I try, Romanic will somehow die.
If you pity this Romanic, I suggest you all unvote me.
"If I try, Romanic will somehow die" ~:confused:
Don't try. :grin:
Beefy187
03-10-2011, 05:11
It is fear that first brought gods into the world.
But it is greed that pizzaguy is unvoting me.
He knows unvoting will grant him free steak.
Askthepizzaguy
03-10-2011, 05:20
It is fear that first brought gods into the world.
But it is greed that pizzaguy is unvoting me.
He knows unvoting will grant him free steak.
What it will grant me is an early grave from the failwagon, and don't think I don't know it either.
I still cannot kill this man, as he's unwilling to kill me to save himself. I gotta show Beefy the love.
Oh for god's sake, the bathos is killing me.
unvote, vote Lord of Lent
Whichever of you is mafia can send the check by FedEx, please.
Askthepizzaguy
03-10-2011, 05:45
Whichever of you is mafia can send the check by FedEx, please.
:heart: I have no money to give. But I am definitely feeling the love.
I would advise that the mafia surrender now. You cannot break the bonds of brotherhood between us townies. Though your knives may pierce our bodies, your evil cannot invade our hearts.
Winston Hughes
03-10-2011, 08:29
unvote; vote: robbiecon
Lord of Lent
03-10-2011, 12:59
vote: Beefy
Middle-eastern cultists hate Mafia, remember? They stole the concept of vendetta from us...
Captain Blackadder
03-10-2011, 13:10
20 mins to go.
Captain Blackadder
03-10-2011, 13:34
Round Over Write Up to come.
Beefy: Ironhead Secura, Lord of the Lent
Lord of Lent, Autolycus Romanic, Renata
ATPG Johnhughtom,
Yaropolk Chimpyang
Renata Skooma
Ironhead Beefy
robbiecon Winston Hughes
Nero strides forward to the centre of the Senate. He looks at the votes in his hand leans over to the man keeping tally and says to him.
"My dear fellow you have made an error someone got more votes in reality then you have desribed here whilst it made no difference this time do please try to keep them accurate." There has being a draw in proceedings so we must all wait whilst I confer with my closest advisors as to what we need to do in this event. Forgive me for taking up your time. With this Nero strides out of the Senate leaving the two men at the centre of this mess hanging on a knife edge. Their fate is to be decided by some as of now an unknown figure.
Night 1 Begins.
Whilst I wait for someone to decide the fates of Beefy and Lord of Lent. You may all send in your orders. If you wish to do something to one of the people in the draw include a secound name incase they are the one chosen to die.
Lord of Lent
03-10-2011, 14:12
Imperator,
I am and have always been a good Roman. I do have my vices, but disloyalty isn't one of them. Please allow me to remain a servant of your wonderful empire that is rightfully yours. Members of the senate, this man, Beefy, is a traitor and does not deserve to live another day.
With these words, I shall pray to our merciful gods and await their judgment, especially yours, imperator romanorum.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-10-2011, 15:04
Fate is in our hands?
Scary!
:shocked3::mad:
Lord of Lent
03-10-2011, 15:51
Make sure you wash your hands properly after killing me...
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-10-2011, 19:23
BE VERY AFARID!!
:goofy: :laugh:
Beefy187
03-11-2011, 05:27
Imperator
I haven't always been a good Roman. Instead of serving the community like Lord of Lent over here, I spent my time writing love stories. Oh good Nero, I don't plan to be a good senator. But if your after erotic love romance then you'll need me alive. Oh senators of Rome and gracious Nero. Getting rid of me would be a great day for Rome. You'll lose one annoying senator who tries to set him self on fire and replace him with yet another dull soldier boy. But remember, your days won't be colourful as it used to be!
With these words, I shall pray to our merciful gods and await their judgment, especially yours, imperator romanorum :curtain:
Lord of Lent. I have no hard feelings. Lets await their judgment holding hands~:grouphug:
Captain Blackadder
03-11-2011, 08:22
Nero listens to what both men have to say he retreats to his inner council. Many hours pass and the men begin to be fearful of their fate. Nero is not known for his clemency but perhaps this time will be different. Nero stands before the Senate and recites yet another bad poem.
Death!
Plop.
The barges down in the river flop.
Flop, plop.
Above, beneath.
From the slimy branches the grey drips drop,
As they scraggle black on the thin grey sky,
Where the black cloud rack-hackles drizzle and fly
To the oozy waters, that lounge and flop
On the black scrag piles, where the loose cords plop,
As the raw wind whines in the thin tree-top.
Plop, plop.
And scudding by
The boatmen call out hoy! and hey!
All is running water and sky,
And my head shrieks -- "Stop,"
And my heart shrieks -- "Die."
* * * * *
My thought is running out of my head;
My love is running out of my heart,
My soul runs after, and leaves me as dead,
For my life runs after to catch them -- and fled
They all are every one! -- and I stand, and start,
At the water that oozes up, plop and plop,
On the barges that flop
And dizzy me dead.
I might reel and drop.
Plop.
Dead.
And the shrill wind whines in the thin tree-top
Flop, plop.
* * * * *
A curse on him.
Ugh! yet I knew -- I knew --
If a woman is false can a friend be true?
It was only a lie from beginning to end --
My Devil -- My "Friend"
I had trusted the whole of my living to!
Ugh; and I knew!
Ugh!
So what do I care,
And my head is empty as air --
I can do,
I can dare,
(Plop, plop
The barges flop
Drip drop.)
I can dare! I can dare!
And let myself all run away with my head
And stop.
Drop.
Dead.
Plop, flop.
Plop.
He looks at the Senate daring them to say something about the poem. The Senate breaks out into a huge applause. Some senators claim it to be the finest poem he has ever written. Nero looks happy at the response and then looks at the two men who were chosen to die.
I feel happy today both of you shall live. Go forth Senate and find the vile men who wish your living God dead.
Still Alive 16/16
JohnHughthom
Tiberius of the Drake
Askthepizzaguy
Secura
robbiecon
Renata
autolycus
Yaropolk
Winston Hughes
Romanic
KingWarmen88
Ironhead
Beefy187
Scumma Addict
Lord of Lent
Chimpyang
Captain Blackadder
03-11-2011, 13:48
There is still some orders that need to come in. So the round has being extended by 8 hours. If there is still no response the game will continue on.
Captain Blackadder
03-12-2011, 03:30
As night struck the city of Rome the pro-consul Vitellius (Skumma Addict) is walking the streets of Rome. He is happy as the ruler of Africa he has many legions at his beck and call. In the eventuality that a civil war does break out he will be well placed to make something of himself. However that is not to be for as he walks the streets some figures begin to stalk him. They follow him from Pompey's Theatre to the forum through the deserted streets of the Esquiline Hill. As he ducks down an alleyway, he spots the figures following him and draws his sword. He stares down these people none of whom have had the power that he has had. He yells at them. "This is not what was supposed to happen I should have being somebody. My name should have lived down the ages in the great books of men. Men should have heard my name and feared my power. It was not my time." With these final words the assassins strike him down leaving his body in the streets of Rome for the common folk to find
Vitellius (Skumma Addict) is dead
Begin Day 2
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 03:34
Vote: Winston Hughes
Ironhead
03-12-2011, 03:51
Vote: Winston HughesWhy him?
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 03:54
:bigcry: But I can change....
vote: ATPG
Homewrecker!
This jokey first-round bandwagon on me would be the reason.
Winston Hughes
03-12-2011, 11:25
This jokey first-round bandwagon on me would be the reason.
Why now, then? :inquisitive:
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 12:43
Why now, then? :inquisitive:
I already OMGUS'ed JHT that round, and my provocation on Beefy failed to get the results I wanted. You cannot make too many moves in a single round or people will think you are scum (logic fail, see Buffyverse).
Beefy187
03-12-2011, 13:10
My apologies to the host but if someone is eager to do so, I would like to get replaced due to the recent earth quake in Japan.
With energy shortage and recovery effort I don't think I can be as active as I would like.
If there is no one I'm willing to continue playing.
Though I feel terrible as I seem to be one of the suspect..
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 13:39
I've had a change of heart. Winston Hughes is both Winsty and Hughesome enough for me.
However, I have a bone to pick with Autolycus. Your behavior seems too cautious for my taste.
unvote, vote: Autolycus
Winston Hughes
03-12-2011, 13:50
You cannot make too many moves in a single round or people will think you are scum.
So you're worried about people thinking you are scum?
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 13:53
So you're worried about people thinking you are scum?
Worrying about the inevitable is illogical.
autolycus
03-12-2011, 13:55
Too cautious, Pizzaguy? I admit that interrogating the Christians is not a revolutionary concept, but they are the underclass, and therefore have the most motivation for rebellion. Vote: Lord of Lent. He still hasn't given me reason to trust him.
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 13:56
Too cautious, Pizzaguy? I admit that interrogating the Christians is not a revolutionary concept, but they are the underclass, and therefore have the most motivation for rebellion. Vote: Lord of Lent. He still hasn't given me reason to trust him.
Good, now admit your guilt and we can move on to Secura.
johnhughthom
03-12-2011, 14:21
I've had a change of heart. Winston Hughes is both Winsty and Hughesome enough for me.
I thought I was Hugh enough for you...
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 14:23
I thought I was Hugh enough for you...
Shush you. Get back to voting me for no discernible reason and being impossible to analyze, you scumbag!
Winston Hughes
03-12-2011, 14:36
Worrying about the inevitable is illogical.
That's what I meant.
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 14:38
That's what I meant.
People will find me scummy, trying to avoid looking scummy is not the goal. Trying to avoid pushing everyone's buttons at once, that's an art form.
johnhughthom
03-12-2011, 14:57
Vote: Atpg
Leave my scu... I mean illogical first round voting pact buddy alone.
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 15:02
Vote: Atpg
Leave my scu... I mean illogical first round voting pact buddy alone.
You don't seriously believe I respond to such things by backing down, right?
johnhughthom
03-12-2011, 15:07
You don't seriously believe I respond to such things by backing down, right?
Back down from what, you've already unvoted him. I won before it began.
Askthepizzaguy
03-12-2011, 15:09
Back down from what, you've already unvoted him. I won before it began.
Oh, you're talking about Winston Hughes...
But you're still voting for me, thus indicating fail. You've not won anything.
johnhughthom
03-12-2011, 15:12
Meh, I don't even know what he discussion was about. I was just giving you something to analyse. I'm nice like that.
Either that or I was expressing my pain at not being the only Hugh in your life, who knows?
Ironhead
03-12-2011, 15:53
VOTE JOHNHUGHTHOM
I do not know the loyalties of my pizzaed countryman, and verily he may be a part of this Pizzonian Conspiracy. But there is something about him that bespeaks volumes; perhaps it is his short stature, embarrassingly short toga, male-pattern baldness, or the spear with two slices of pizza on it and the way he bangs the spear to punctuate his sentences with a proclamation of "Pizza! Pizza!" Whatever it is, he calls way too much attention to himself to be a part of this conspiracy. Instead, I denounce this Winstless Hugh, who ignorantly chases after the wind, which carries the delicious aroma of pizza on it.
vote: warman
Lots of inactive so far :(
vote: Lord or Lent
It's Saturday, so if there's a better vote out there you'll need to explain it in short words.
robbiecon
03-12-2011, 20:40
Vote: Beefy, I understand fully the Japan situation, and hope yourself and those you know are all ok.
However I will vote you to allow for some analysis on yesterday's voters. We'll know a lot more about everyone I imagine depending on what Beefy shows up as.
Also Vitellius was Roman Emperor for 8 months after Nero's death. So I'm guessing he was destined to take Nero's place once he died.
Lord of Lent
03-12-2011, 21:12
vote: renata
Don't you think you have some explaining to do as well?
johnhughthom
03-12-2011, 23:18
vote: Lord or Lent
It's Saturday, so if there's a better vote out there you'll need to explain it in short words.
Come on Renata, who are you voting for? Make up your mind woman!
Beefy187
03-13-2011, 01:25
Vote: Beefy, I understand fully the Japan situation, and hope yourself and those you know are all ok.
However I will vote you to allow for some analysis on yesterday's voters. We'll know a lot more about everyone I imagine depending on what Beefy shows up as.
Also Vitellius was Roman Emperor for 8 months after Nero's death. So I'm guessing he was destined to take Nero's place once he died.
Looks like the host have not found my replacement yet.
If we are doing this we might as well do it in earlier round. I am Petronius one of the said conspirator in this conspiracy.
If I show up innocent then even Piso and other conspirator might show up innocent.
Winston Hughes
03-13-2011, 03:17
vote: johnhughthom
A woman scorned...
Looks like the host have not found my replacement yet.
If we are doing this we might as well do it in earlier round. I am Petronius one of the said conspirator in this conspiracy.
If I show up innocent then even Piso and other conspirator might show up innocent.
Are you saying that you don't know if you are guilty?
Do you know who else are the conspirators? :laugh2:
Beefy187
03-13-2011, 03:58
Are you saying that you don't know if you are guilty?
Do you know who else are the conspirators? :laugh2:
No I know I'm innocent. But mystical website of the future says I suicided as I was named to be one of the conspirators.
"The philosopher Seneca, the poet Marcus Annaeus Lucanus, and the satirist Petronius were also implicated in the plot."
Add Piso in there and there we have the "conspirators"
Thing is 4 is too many and too easy. Maybe Piso and one or two other random players.
Skooma Addict
03-13-2011, 05:50
I would love nothing more then to replace the honorable Beefius and exact a just revenge upon my most cowardly assailant. A pain for a pain.
Chimpyang
03-13-2011, 08:49
Vote: Warman Inactive? Or just unwilling to talk to us?
Captain Blackadder
03-13-2011, 12:14
I am feeling a little under the weather so the write up will be short.
Nero strides forward an tallies the votes yet again we have a draw this time between many candidates. He leans over to check the tally and notices that a mistake has being made. The one known as Johnhughthom has recieved an additional vote. Thus putting him into contention. Once again I will consort with my noble council to decide your fates.
Autolycus ATPG
Lord of Lent autolycus, renata
atpg johnhughtom, ironhead
warman, romanic, Chimpyang
beefy robbiecon
renata Lord of Lent
Johnhughtom Winston Hughes +1
Captain Blackadder
03-14-2011, 10:59
This will teach me for doing the tally whilst ill I made a mistake and Ironhead actually voted for Johnhughthom which means he is lynched.
Nero looks shocked at the tally for it appears that he has made a mistake and he needs to rectify it. He decides that whilst the scribes tabulate the results he will read another poem. This one is called The Things that Make a Soldier Great.
The things that make a soldier great and send him out to die,
To face the swords gaping mouth nor ever question why,
Are lilacs by a little porch, the row of tulips red,
The peonies and pansies, too, the old petunia bed,
The grass plot where his children play, the roses on the wall:
'Tis these that make a soldier great. He's fighting for them all.
'Tis not the pomp and pride of Generals that make a soldier brave;
'Tis not allegiance to the flag that over him may wave;
For soldiers never fight so well on land or on the foam
As when behind the cause they see the little place called home.
Endanger but that humble street whereon his children run,
You make a soldier of the man who never had a loved one.
What is it through the battle smoke the valiant solider sees?
The little garden far away, the budding apple trees,
The little patch of ground back there, the children at their play,
Perhaps a tiny mound behind the simple church of gray.
The golden thread of courage isn't linked to castle dome
But to the spot, where'er it be -- the humblest spot called home.
And now the lilacs bud again and all is lovely there
And homesick soldiers far away know spring is in the air;
The tulips come to bloom again, the grass once more is green,
And every man can see the spot where all his joys have been.
He sees his children smile at him, he hears the call,
And only death can stop him now -- he's fighting for them all.
He looks down at the current pro-consul of Luistania Marcus Salvius Otho (johnhughthom) You are hereby found guilty of attempting to plot against your living god. Do you have anything to say in your defence?
I have always loved my country and defended it to the highest order. My life is devoted to the idea of Rome. I served my country with honour and forthrightness there is not a single thing I regret.
With this Nero motions for the praetorian guard to remove the man and they take him away to allow him to commit suicide, honourably as a roman.
Marcus Salvius Otho (johnhughthom) is dead
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-14-2011, 14:13
Vote: Warman Inactive? Or just unwilling to talk to us?
Unwilling as usual :goofy:.
Askthepizzaguy
03-14-2011, 17:24
You should be aware, my brother, that killing your own flesh and blood isn't a wise idea.
Not a threat, I'm just saying. Pizza would be saddeded, and so would you.
Captain Blackadder
03-15-2011, 13:16
As Night fell Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus (Autolycus) sent out the orders for the Praetorian Guard to protect the houses of certain senators. Gaius thought to himself perhaps this night none will die. How wrong he was to be. As the final member of the Guard left his house bound for the house of the Emperor shadowy figures stood by waiting for enough minutes to pass so that no member of the guard would hear a thing. They hour finally strikes so they move into action against this hated figure of the Nero regime. They move into his house unlike the other murders this one seems almost personal as if there is some great hatred for him. The stab him as many times as the Liberatores stabbed the first living God Caesar. The stab again and again the blood of Tigellinus runs through his house. And yet they still do not stop they chop of both his hands whilst he watches for these are the hands that have caused much suffering.
As day breaks the senators of Rome are meet with a grizzly sight. The head of Tigellinus its eyes pecked out and its tongue removed stuck against the doors of the Senate House. As Nero sees it great angry flushes across his face. He glares at all those present and the people inside the crowd who did the deed no know, if they should fail their fates will be far worse then that of Tigellinus.
Begin Day 3
JohnHughthom is replacing Tiberius of the Drake
Skumma Addict is replacing Beefy.
Should Yaropolk not turn up this round he will be wogged.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-15-2011, 13:50
Severed head? Yucky!
Ironhead
03-15-2011, 14:25
Severed head? Yucky!VOTE WARMAN
because of this response of his -- no vote, no analysis, nothing to offer the rest of us. I wonder if maybe he was waiting here for Tigellinus' corpse to be found, so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it. But then, how would he know where to be and when, unless he was complicit in the conspiracy?
Yaropolk
03-15-2011, 14:47
Please WOG me, I am on vacation overseas - I dropped out of animus, but this game started when I was already on my way out the door so no time to arrange replacement.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-15-2011, 15:07
Vote:Ironhead
Why so quick to vote my friend? You won't try to be covering for yourself and/or others would you?
vote: Lord of Lent
I know people aren't taking this seriously, but come on. The only time the guy shows up is to place a vote that saves his own skin?
autolycus
03-15-2011, 15:21
Well, now that I'm cleared, I can talk freely. Please take out LoL. He's contributing just enough to stay alive.
johnhughthom
03-15-2011, 15:23
Vote: Lord of Lent
Pretty strong case against him.
Winston Hughes
03-15-2011, 18:15
vote: ATPG
The poker-face thing is working too well. I think you're scum.
Skooma Addict
03-15-2011, 20:35
Who, loving life hath sought
To outrun the appointed span,
Shall be arraigned before my thought
For an infatuate man.
Since the added years entail
Much that is bitter...joy
Flies out of ken, desire doth fail,
The wished for moments cloy.
But when the troublesome life,
Be it less or more is past,
With power to end the strife
Comes rescuing DEATH at last.
Lo! How the dark bridegroom awaits! No festive choir
Shall grace his destined hour, no dance, no lyre!!
*Takes a bow*
because of this response of his -- no vote, no analysis, nothing to offer the rest of us. I wonder if maybe he was waiting here for Tigellinus' corpse to be found, so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it. But then, how would he know where to be and when, unless he was complicit in the conspiracy?
You are reading far too much into his behaviour... why?
vote: Ironhead
Askthepizzaguy
03-15-2011, 21:28
vote: ATPG
The poker-face thing is working too well. I think you're scum.
Then you are indeed a silly goose. You should know better than that, after what I've said and who I've said it to.
Vote: Lord of Lent
Askthepizzaguy
03-15-2011, 21:47
Also:
Fiddling Nero, you're my hero.
Don't be shy, come say hi.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-15-2011, 22:02
Uh-oh, Spagetti Oh's!
Lord of Lent
03-16-2011, 11:28
Indeed
vote: Warman
unvote, vote: Lord of Lent
Captain Blackadder
03-16-2011, 13:41
Round over prepare for write up
Warman, Ironhead, Romanic, Lord of Lent
Ironhead, Warman,
Lord of Lent, Renata, Johnhughthom, ATPG, Secura
ATPG, Winston Hughes
Nero strides forward and is this time happy to see that a decision has being made and that someone is to die this day. That man is Gaius Licinius Mucianus (Lord of Lent) Nero looks at this man, the governor of the Syria province. He is famous for having put down many revolts for Rome but this service to the Empire is not to help him this day. Nero is still upset at the fate that happened last evening and is out for revenge. He orders Gaius to be taken to the walls of Rome and crucified. Many of the senators look shocked at this news for such a fate is illegal. However Nero is the Emperor his orders are to be obeyed. The Praetorian Guard angry at the death of their master relish in the task of taking the man they think killed him to suffer his fate.
Gaius Licinius Mucianus (Lord of Lent) is dead
Begin Night 3
Guess we didn't hit a conspirator. Mucianus is not listed as one on The Pisonian Conspiracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisonian_conspiracy) and his history doesn't look traitorous (Mucianus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucianus), on wikipedia)
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-17-2011, 12:48
Could have been worse I guess.
Captain Blackadder
03-17-2011, 13:31
As night falls once more over the city of Rome once more we find ourselves at the house of Gaius Musonius Rufus (Renata) one of the finest philosophers of Rome at this time. He sits there talking to a large group of people who hang on his every word. He begins to talk about the current plot against Nero.
"For to scheme how to bite back the biter and to return evil for evil is the act not of a human being but of a wild beast, which is incapable of reasoning that the majority of wrongs are done to men through ignorance and misunderstanding, from which man will cease as soon as he has been taught." We say that the despicable man is recognized among other things by his ability to harm his enemies, but actually he is much more easily recognized by his inability to help them that is what we must focus on these days in Rome.
The men sit in silence awed at the words coming out of his mouth. Musonius continues on.
"What we must do in order to improve the lives of all is to teach Women the same as men. For do they not have the same capacities as us men? Do they not have the same ability to reason? My answer to this is of course they do there is no difference in the intelligence of either gender so why shouldn't they learn the philosopher that we all learn as boys. Is it because we want docile people who will not challenge our views on the world. I say women deserve all the rights of men they should be able to serve in the senate and vote in the elections showpieces that they are."
With the end of this speech the men start to shake their heads. Good old crazy Musonius and his talk of equality amongst the genders. They begin to stand up to leave for once Musonius starts on his gender equality arguments he will go on into the night saying all sorts of crazy things. As the last man leaves this place an entirely different kind of visitor arrives at the house of Musonius. These are the killers once more happy at their fine efforts last night they have decided to kill the man whose intellect scares them. The move towards him with daggers drawn and Piso stands behind him and with one quick motion Musonius the great philosopher is dead.
Gaius Musonius Rufus (Renata) is dead
autolycus
03-17-2011, 14:42
Can we get a list of the living, please?
Captain Blackadder
03-17-2011, 14:59
12/17
JohnHughthom
Tiberius of the Drake
Askthepizzaguy
Secura
robbiecon
Renata
autolycus
Yaropolk
Winston Hughes
Romanic
KingWarmen88
Ironhead
Beefy187
Scumma Addict
Lord of Lent
Chimpyang
johnhughthom
03-17-2011, 15:37
Very kind of you to bold the scum for us Cpt B.
edit, doh, the bold are dead, right?
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-17-2011, 16:35
Correct,John.
Hay!
OK scummers, killing me was your first mistake. Now I'm mad.
Captain Blackadder
03-17-2011, 23:13
Ok I need one more replacement first one to contact me gets Yaropolks role after this there will be no more replacements inactives will be wogged.
robbiecon
03-17-2011, 23:22
Vote: johnhughthom, attempting to distance yourself from ye olde scum are we?
Winston Hughes
03-17-2011, 23:59
vote: ATPG
Ironhead
03-18-2011, 00:02
I thought yesterday's vote behavior was interesting. I cast a vote on Warman, who cast a revenge vote on me, and over the course of the day we both picked up a few more votes. But as deadline loomed, Warman still had a handful of votes, and the second place candidate was not me but rather Lord of Lent. So who was it that shifted their vote from me to Lord of Lent to condemn LoL to his death and thus protect Warman from a possible lynch? None other than Secura. I suggest we lynch Secura, and if guilty, we might find that Warman was also part of this conspiracy.
VOTE SECURA
vote: Warman
You've been acting off since the game started, time to swing from the noose.
I suggest we lynch Secura, and if guilty, we might find that Warman was also part of this conspiracy.
You were voted for because of this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132688-The-Pisonian-Conspiracy-In-play&p=2053278997&viewfull=1#post2053278997) post; you appeared to be reading far too much into Warman's behaviour at the time, and your comment regarding "so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it" sounded really off.
The vote switch is self-explanitory to be honest; Lord of Lent hopped onto the Warman wagon without explaining his vote, making him the third voter on the wagon, a scummy accolade in it's own right. Furthermore, I don't really think one can argue when two of the best players of the Gameroom had also found his behaviour to be scummy.
My vote for Warman comes because he has been acting odd for the entire game now, and while I know that this is just his usual behaviour, I think that he could be maintaining this as a facade to appear as town as possible. This notion is further supported by a comment I have from a QuickTopic I was privy to as gamehost, whereby he was acting similarly in-thread and shrugged it off as "I'm just toying with them and keeping my mouth shut for the time being."
Ergo, he gets my vote now.
According to Wikipedia, Rufus (Renata) was
was accordingly banished to the island of Gyarus (65 AD) on a trumped-up charge of participation in Piso's conspiracy.
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Musonius_Rufus )
And he is listed as Exiled/Denigrated on the Pisonian Conspiracy page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisonian_conspiracy).
It means that the guilty parties may not be as obvious as looking on that page, so I would guess the Scum team to still be complete, and Beefy's claim (now Skooma) of Petronius, may be credible.
vote: Warman
We might as well test if Secura protected a scum by lynching him first. At least she is making an effort.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 05:23
vote: ATPG
Vote: Winston Hughes
I want more detail on why you think I am scum. Specific examples, preferably from the thread or from private chat, or anything really to justify this.
Winston Hughes
03-18-2011, 08:33
I want more detail on why you think I am scum. Specific examples, preferably from the thread or from private chat, or anything really to justify this.
Talking to you in private, I ran into a big pile of metagamey excuses and WIFOM. Despite claiming to be convinced of my innocence, you refused to tell me your name in exchange for my own. In that context, voting for me now seems rather odd as well. For someone well known for his elite mafia-finding abilities, we haven't seen much of the good stuff from you here. When we talked, you did identify two potential supects, both of whom turned out to be (apparently) town power roles, one of whom doesn't seem interested in using that power, while the other (Autolycus) was killed after I warned you off voting for him. Finally, there is your oft-made statement that while you're lynch-bait as a townie, as scum you're much less likely to catch votes.
A slam dunk? Far from it. But I don't have anything better at this stage.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 08:47
Talking to you in private, I ran into a big pile of metagamey excuses and WIFOM. Despite claiming to be convinced of my innocence, you refused to tell me your name in exchange for my own. In that context, voting for me now seems rather odd as well. For someone well known for his elite mafia-finding abilities, we haven't seen much of the good stuff from you here. When we talked, you did identify two potential supects, both of whom turned out to be (apparently) town power roles, one of whom doesn't seem interested in using that power, while the other (Autolycus) was killed after I warned you off voting for him. Finally, there is your oft-made statement that while you're lynch-bait as a townie, as scum you're much less likely to catch votes.
A slam dunk? Far from it. But I don't have anything better at this stage.
Well you're right on the far from it part.
My vote on you is because I don't really find your suspicion of me to be genuine. Just because I'm not going to reveal my role every game, as a chosen decision for several-games-strategy, and revealed it to someone else I trusted more than you, that doesn't make me scum.
You just cannot read me, that's all. It's nothing to be ashamed of. That's if your suspicion on me is genuine, and I don't think it is, frankly.
Winston Hughes
03-18-2011, 09:06
Well you're right on the far from it part.
My vote on you is because I don't really find your suspicion of me to be genuine. Just because I'm not going to reveal my role every game, as a chosen decision for several-games-strategy, and revealed it to someone else I trusted more than you, that doesn't make me scum.
You just cannot read me, that's all. It's nothing to be ashamed of. That's if your suspicion on me is genuine, and I don't think it is, frankly.
Riddled with scumminess. Again there's the metagaming "several-games strategy", which is reason enough to lynch someone in my book. And what's this about someone you trusted more than me? That someone had been one of your prime suspects only moments earlier. Also, you totally sidesteped the Autolycus issue and that of your sudden inability to spot scummy behaviour.
Perhaps I can't read you. But if your last statement is true, and you think I'm scum, then you can't read me either. The difference is that you've seen plenty to suggest that I'm innocent, while I've seen little to suggest the same about you.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 09:11
Riddled with scumminess. Again there's the metagaming "several-games strategy", which is reason enough to lynch someone in my book. And what's this about someone you trusted more than me? That someone had been one of your prime suspects only moments earlier. Also, you totally sidesteped the Autolycus issue and that of your sudden inability to spot scummy behaviour.
Perhaps I can't read you. But if your last statement is true, and you think I'm scum, then you can't read me either. The difference is that you've seen plenty to suggest that I'm innocent, while I've seen little to suggest the same about you.
*shrug*
What have I seen to suggest your innocence? Nothing. I made a judgment call in my initial assessment of you. That assessment, like all my assessments, is amended every time you do something I find guilty.
Such as voting for me on reasons that sound good on paper, but are just excuses to lynch me, and are terrible at finding scum.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 09:37
I'm sure the timing here is atrocious, and it will just convince Winston I am guilty, if he is in fact innocent. However, Warman is far more interested in this game than the previous several he's been in. Quick to respond, not-nonsense posts.
That's at least different from baseline. An explanation is warranted. While it's been observed (by me) that such behavior is not always a reliable indicator for scum (sometimes it just indicates more enthusiasm than usual), I don't believe I've observed Warman get excited over certain games or roles before. It's still off, for him.
unvote, vote: Warman
According to Wikipedia, Rufus (Renata) was
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Musonius_Rufus )
And he is listed as Exiled/Denigrated on the Pisonian Conspiracy page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisonian_conspiracy).
It means that the guilty parties may not be as obvious as looking on that page, so I would guess the Scum team to still be complete, and Beefy's claim (now Skooma) of Petronius, may be credible.
There are gaps in the logic here that really quite bother me.
1. My role is described as exiled on trumped up charges. In other words, not guilty. The role should NOT be mafia. So how do you get from there to,
2. The guilty parties might not be obvious. Hmm? So far not a single player killed by the mafia has had a role that according to the conspiracy is likely to be mafia. In other words, you've just drawn a conclusion that bears no relation to the evidence used to support it. (And used that unsupported conclusion to support Skooma's innocence despite his claimed name, might I add.)
3. You would "guess" the scum team to still be complete. Because the guilty parties might not be obvious. What? As I said above we haven't lynched anyone with an obvious scum name. The night deaths obviously aren't scum. The conclusion should be that IF the guilty parties are obvious, then the scum team is still complete. But you're arguing the exact opposite. The guilty parties might not be obvious (which in and of itself is unsupported), therefore the scum team is probably still complete. The road from your premise to your conclusion goes right over a cliff.
You're better than posting a bunch of word-salad when you're trying to draw conclusions, Romanic.
This whole post is a mess of non-logic. Not one of its conclusions is supported by the premise given. I suspect the three "conclusions" could be true (or not; regardless it's not important right now):
-- the guilty party's names are not necessarily obvious
-- Skooma is innocent
-- the scum team is still complete
but you sure didn't draw those conclusions the way you said you did. Either you already know the answers (in other words, you're scum) and are just slapping together a bunch of words to make yourself look useful; or you already know the answers (in other words, you're scum) and are manipulating the conclusions to promote your cause (in other words, Skooma is also scum*). I'm leaning the first at the moment, but that's not really important right now. What's important is if you didn't know the answers (in other words, if you were town), you'd never cobble together such a hackery as that.
I'm also dubious of Warman (for the reason Pizza states) and of Pizza (partially for Winston's reasons, partially instinct), but right now I'd prefer a lynch of Romanic.
*Actually this isn't the only possible cause-promotion Romanic could be involved in. He could be trying to cover for Lord of Lent or another lynched player having been mafia ("the scum team is still complete") or for the "bad" name of another non-Skooma conspirator.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 12:54
First Warman, then Romanic, then Flexo, then Fry.
Jeepers, Pizza, you had a whole two minutes to absorb that comment of mine and post. Impressive speed of drawing conclusions that Romanic should be lynched.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 13:05
Jeepers, Pizza, you had a whole two minutes to absorb that comment of mine and post. Impressive speed of drawing conclusions that Romanic should be lynched.
You're somehow impressed by my reading comprehension speed? It's usually my typing skills that do that.
My conclusion was that Warman should be lynched. Romanic I have as a suspect (think Clue, everyone is one unless I see their card) and I haven't crossed him off yet. I don't disagree with your premise regarding him, although I must say Romanic is not usually a sloppy mafioso. He did recently win the Simpsons Half Monty with basically no one guessing it was him.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 13:10
Oh I've gone and stuck my foot in it now, haven't I.
Pizza must be guilty because Romanic will turn out to be so. I'm getting really good at this. :laugh4:
Why do I fail so epically at looking innocent when innocent. Winston is right, you should lynch me soon and get it over with. Heck, have special role over there whack me. It will kill two birds with one stone.
His arguments against Zack in that game had gaping holes in the their logic not too dissimilar to what's going on here. Nor can you really characterize it as sloppy if several people read over the post without apparently noticing it at all.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 13:15
His arguments against Zack in that game had gaping holes in the their logic not too dissimilar to what's going on here. Nor can you really characterize it as sloppy if several people read over the post without apparently noticing it at all.
I am just taking comfort in the fact that I wasn't useless in other games. That's my saving grace here, because the more I talk, the more I'm making less sense and adding to my own scumminess rating.
Romanic is a bit harder to read, is the point I am trying to make. No offense to Warman, but I think he's sort of flinching here. Maybe you're right about Romanic, but I am more confident on the vote on Warman presently.
That said, I do not think your case is without merit. It's better than anything I have come up with on my own.
Yes yes we know you're scummy, you don't have to rub it in. Warman's rather high on my own suspect list; after breakfast I'll have to do a compare and contrast on the three of you and see what stands out.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 13:21
Yes yes we know you're scummy, you don't have to rub it in. Warman's rather high on my own suspect list; after breakfast I'll have to do a compare and contrast on the three of you and see what stands out.
I could list reasons why I'm scummy and then do more things that are scummy, and post a picture of an extra-sexy version of Warman and explain that his sexiness is the reason I am voting for him. Would that help? Oh yes, we know what happens when pizza does that.....
I'm just going to embrace the scumminess at this point. It's all I can do.
johnhughthom
03-18-2011, 13:25
Vote: Roman
Wikipedia = scum.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 13:27
Ah fudge it.
I am not on my game this game, and I am going to start embracing that too. Let's try shutting up and following, maybe that will work. Screw my judgment on this one.
unvote, vote: Romanic
+10 more scummypoints for pizza.
Dude, you did that yesterday on Lord of Lent.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 14:06
Dude, you did that yesterday on Lord of Lent.
I can't win.
Winston is no good, Warman is fine but we'd rather lynch Romanic, and now switching to Romanic is also apparently scummy.
Fun fun fun.
Chimpyang
03-18-2011, 14:23
I'm going to go with Robbiecon's argument: Vote: JHT
johnhughthom
03-18-2011, 14:37
I'm going to go with Robbiecon's argument: Vote: JHT
There are quite a few arguments and you decide to tag along with the weakest. Interesting.
Tally:
jht: 2 (robbiecon, Chimp)
Pizza: 1 (Winston)
Secura: 1 (Ironhead)
Warman: 2 (Secura, Roman)
Roman: 2 (jht, Pizza)
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-18-2011, 14:48
Vote:JHT
Don't vote for me everyone. You be voting for the wrong person.
johnhughthom
03-18-2011, 14:51
Vote:JHT
Hah, just because I killed you in Animus. :wink2:
Chimpyang
03-18-2011, 14:58
There are quite a few arguments and you decide to tag along with the weakest. Interesting.
Tally:
jht: 2 (robbiecon, Chimp)
Pizza: 1 (Winston)
Secura: 1 (Ironhead)
Warman: 2 (Secura, Roman)
Roman: 2 (jht, Pizza)
I'm still getting over my animus hangover...still trying to absorb the thread, the Romanic, Warman arguemnts are a huge wall of text to me atm.
You're better than posting a bunch of word-salad when you're trying to draw conclusions, Romanic.
This whole post is a mess of non-logic. Not one of its conclusions is supported by the premise given. I suspect the three "conclusions" could be true (or not; regardless it's not important right now):
-- the guilty party's names are not necessarily obvious
-- Skooma is innocent
-- the scum team is still complete
But I love salad. :laugh4:
You've changed my conclusions though, I said Skooma's claim (well Beefy's ) may be credible, not that he was innocent. And the scum team being complete is also a guess, not an affirmation, based on the dead roles we've seen so far. And of course I didn't draw that 3rd conclusion from your death because I'm pretty sure you were Town, from dying at night.
You make a big deal of my post, but all I was really saying is that the historical roles, implicated in the Pisonian Conspiracy, will probably not be obvious.
Chimpyang
03-18-2011, 18:05
It's a close vote, I assume that the round ends at midnight GMT, so I'm going to unvote, there are a few people and suspects on 2, lets see which one cracks first.
But I love salad. :laugh4:
You've changed my conclusions though, I said Skooma's claim (well Beefy's ) may be credible, not that he was innocent. And the scum team being complete is also a guess, not an affirmation, based on the dead roles we've seen so far. And of course I didn't draw that 3rd conclusion from your death because I'm pretty sure you were Town, from dying at night.
You make a big deal of my post, but all I was really saying is that the historical roles, implicated in the Pisonian Conspiracy, will probably not be obvious.
Which would have been fine as an opinion, if you hadn't supported your contention with a bunch of marshmallow fluff. It's the fluff that I take exception to. It doesn't hold up the conclusions that you're trying to support on it.
And note that since I am dead and innocent, I get to exaggerate your conclusions ever so slightly in order to make my point. It doesn't alter the case against you, to point that out. "might" and "could be" are not inherently less scummy than "is".
It's a close vote, I assume that the round ends at midnight GMT, so I'm going to unvote, there are a few people and suspects on 2, lets see which one cracks first.
How about you decide which one you want to stake your claim to as being scummiest?
Winston, Atpg -- was Autolycus some form of investigatory role? There was his "now I'm cleared I can speak freely, lynch LoL" post, makes me wonder.
Warman is rubbing me all kinds of wrong given he posted only at night for the first two days of the game, but on day two he wound up tied for the lead. So did AtPG for that matter (and you'd think ATPG of all people could arrange not to wind up in that position). I'm not exactly sold yet on either of them, though.
Winston, Atpg -- was Autolycus some form of investigatory role? There was his "now I'm cleared I can speak freely, lynch LoL" post, makes me wonder.
Warman is rubbing me all kinds of wrong given he posted only at night for the first two days of the game, but on day two he wound up tied for the lead. So did AtPG for that matter (and you'd think ATPG of all people could arrange not to wind up in that position). I'm not exactly sold yet on either of them, though.
The Day 2 tally (#113) was wrong: Ironhead voted JHT, not ATPG (see #114, CB is correcting it).
The final tally for Day 2 was
3 johnhughthom (Ironhead, Winston, *hidden vote*)
2 Lord of Lent (autolycus, Renata)
2 Warman (Romanic, Chimpyang)
1 autolycus (ATPG)
1 ATPG (JHT)
1 Beefy (robbiecon)
1 Renata (Lord of Lent)
---
5 not voting (Beefy/Skooma, Secura, Tiberious/JHT2, Warman, Yaropolk)
OK, forget the bit about ATPG, then. However, from the perspectives of JHT, LoL or Warman it would have appeared as if they were in danger of being lynched minus direct knowledge of the hidden vote. Meh, I suppose that vote could be a scum one, though. If so JHT would look really good, Warman really bad -- unless LoL was in fact scum.
OK, forget the bit about ATPG, then. However, from the perspectives of JHT, LoL or Warman it would have appeared as if they were in danger of being lynched minus direct knowledge of the hidden vote. Meh, I suppose that vote could be a scum one, though. If so JHT would look really good, Warman really bad -- unless LoL was in fact scum.
Edit: if it's an involuntary tiebreaker (like I had in the Simpsons game) it could only belong to Winston Hughes, since Ironhead was part of the Beefy-voting contingent on day one that ended up in a tie, and there was no hidden vote then.
Winston, if it was you; or if any townie placed that vote voluntarily, I think you should comment about it somehow, in public or private.
OK, forget the bit about ATPG, then. However, from the perspectives of JHT, LoL or Warman it would have appeared as if they were in danger of being lynched minus direct knowledge of the hidden vote. Meh, I suppose that vote could be a scum one, though. If so JHT would look really good, Warman really bad -- unless LoL was in fact scum.
JHT was lynched on that day, and turned out to be Otho. The current JHT is Tiberius' replacement, and shouldn't get any Town creds from his previous persona (Tiberius never posted).
If the hidden vote is scum, it would point toward Warman or Lord of Lent being Scum, since that vote saved them from a tie breaker, but we don't know anything about the hidden vote. And afaik it's the only Day we've seen one, but I'm thinking it may not appear unless it's relevant to the final result.
Skooma Addict
03-18-2011, 19:50
lol marshmallow fluff. I shall use this line and claim it as my own.
Vote: Warman
I am sorry beloved man of war,
You shall murder good Romans nevermore
Edit: if it's an involuntary tiebreaker (like I had in the Simpsons game) it could only belong to Winston Hughes, since Ironhead was part of the Beefy-voting contingent on day one that ended up in a tie, and there was no hidden vote then.
Winston, if it was you; or if any townie placed that vote voluntarily, I think you should comment about it somehow, in public or private.
It can't be a tiebreaker.
I am feeling a little under the weather so the write up will be short.
Nero strides forward an tallies the votes yet again we have a draw this time between many candidates. He leans over to check the tally and notices that a mistake has being made. The one known as Johnhughthom has recieved an additional vote. Thus putting him into contention. Once again I will consort with my noble council to decide your fates.
Autolycus ATPG
Lord of Lent autolycus, renata
atpg johnhughtom, ironhead
warman, romanic, Chimpyang
beefy robbiecon
renata Lord of Lent
Johnhughtom Winston Hughes +1
It's clearly an extra vote here, "putting him into contention" for the council to decide. JHT, like Warman and Lord of Lent, was considered to have two votes (of course this tally was wrong, but we can make deduction from it. If it was a tiebreaker, JHT wouldn't appear with 2 votes).
JHT was lynched on that day, and turned out to be Otho. The current JHT is Tiberius' replacement, and shouldn't get any Town creds from his previous persona (Tiberius never posted).
*headdesk* I'm an idiot, you're right.
If the hidden vote is scum, it would point toward Warman or Lord of Lent being Scum, since that vote saved them from a tie breaker, but we don't know anything about the hidden vote. And afaik it's the only Day we've seen one, but I'm thinking it may not appear unless it's relevant to the final result.
Possible, which is why I brought up the possibility of an involuntary tiebreaker vote like I had in the Simpsons game. But that could only possibly belong to Winston Hughes, no one else. (And he should probably say so if it does.)
If not him, then I have a hard time rationalizing a hidden vote being placed on JHTv1 over either of the other two players. The tie the previous day wasn't broken, why was this one? If anyone did have a good (town) reason for it, I suggest they find some way to make the fact public (through a proxy or however).
It can't be a tiebreaker.
It's clearly an extra vote here, "putting him into contention" for the council to decide. JHT, like Warman and Lord of Lent, was considered to have two votes (of course this tally was wrong, but we can make deduction from it. If it was a tiebreaker, JHT wouldn't appear with 2 votes).
Right, so scratch the Winston Hughes hypothesis. What was the error regarding ATPG again?
Ironhead voted johnhughthom, not ATPG, on Day 2.
OK, so it clearly wasn't a tiebreaker of any kind (revealed by the original tally mistake) and probably had nothing to do with ATPG -- based on the the real vote count, which the person who placed this vote was probably aware of. The real vote count being, in the absence of the hidden vote, 2 warman, 2 jht, 2 LOL.
Want to go read yesterday again.
Scratch the question about Autolycus; I presume he was the doc.
As Night fell Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus (Autolycus) sent out the orders for the Praetorian Guard to protect the houses of certain senators.
Which could mean there's still a cop out there somewhere, eh scummers?
Yesterday begins with Ironhead's vote on Warman for his "severed head? Yucky!" comment that kicked off the day. Waaaay overjustified, I do agree, but the vote itself was solid. For his first comment all game that came *during* a voting period, that comment did smack rather a lot of scum.
Warman comes back immediately with an OMGUS (saying Ironhead was suspiciously quick to vote/maybe covering for someone, which is just silly compared to the better argument available about overjustifying. Doesn't help Warman's case).
Warman 1
Ironhead 1
I vote Lord of Lent. Dead Autolycus backs this up. Johnhughthom (v2) says the case is strong. Well I can't argue that too much considering it was my case, but still.
Warman 1
Ironhead 1
LoL 2
Winston votes ATPG. Based on things said today, presumably in large part due to Autolycus just having turned up dead. Secura makes the better argument against Ironhead.
Warman 1
Ironhead 2
LoL 2
ATPG 1
ATPG adds a comment-free vote to the LoL bandwagon, with most of the post consisting of an argument with WH. I still want to know what "what I've said and who I've said it to" refers to.
Warman 1
Ironhead 2
LoL 3
ATPG 1
Romanic says "ok, vote Warman". Romanic -- what was the OK referring to? At least with ATPG there was a clear case he was responding to in voting LoL, but this seems to come out of nowhere.
Scummy Lord of Lent then chimes in to tie it up. I still feel like arguing with him. 'Indeed'? Anyway.
Warman 3
Ironhead 2
LoL 3
ATPG 1
So now it's between the two beneficiaries of the hidden vote from the previous day. And NOBODY has brought that up. How bizarre.
Secura switches comment-free to LoL. Who was scummy enough to deserve it, but still.
Warman 3
Ironhead 1
LoL 4
ATPG 1
I think I'm changing my mind. With LoL's lack of obvious-scum role flip and the evidence of the hidden vote (which hopefully was placed for an actual purpose other than "get the townies to lynch these two guys back to back hardy-har"), plus Warman's behavior, I think it's worth lynching him to day, seeing what happens, and saving Romanic and others for tomorrow.
Askthepizzaguy
03-18-2011, 21:04
unvote, vote: Warman
I still want to know what "what I've said and who I've said it to" refers to.
I'm sitting on information, and it's not info that should be discussed publicly, and which gives us a slight advantage, IMO.
Not that everyone would agree, but hey. I'm a rebel like that.
Romanic says "ok, vote Warman". Romanic -- what was the OK referring to? At least with ATPG there was a clear case he was responding to in voting LoL, but this seems to come out of nowhere.
This was my answer to Warman's previous post
Uh-oh, Spagetti Oh's!
Why'd you vote him for it?
Why'd you vote him for it?
Because it was useless, and also because I wanted the tally to be close, not a runaway on Lord of Lent.
Captain Blackadder
03-19-2011, 08:25
Round over prepare for write up
Captain Blackadder
03-19-2011, 10:37
Nero strides forward once more with yet another poem to be read.
A little flower grew in a lonely Vale
Its form was lovely but its colours pale.
One standing in the Porches of the Sun
When his Meridian Glories were begun
Leaped from the steps of fire and on the grass
Alighted where this little Flower was.
With hands divine he moved the gentle Sod
And took the Flower up in its native clod
Then planting it upon a Mountain’s brow.
“Tis your own fault if you don’t flourish now."
He looks at the Senators and asks who is to be killed. They rise up with one voice Seneca (Warman) is to be the one that dies. Nero looks at Seneca his boyhood tutor, the man that taught him everything that he knew and says. "If you are involved in this conspiracy I shall say this I know it was you, Seneca. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!" With this Seneca stares back at Nero and says. "I am not involved in this plot whilst I have had misgivings about your reign who am I to kill you? A physician is not angry at the intemperance of a mad patient, nor does he take it ill to be railed at by a man in fever. Just so should a wise man treat all mankind, as a physician does his patient, and look upon them only as sick and extravagant. That is what you are, you are a sick man and you should not be killed but treated with kindness. I am the man who could do that. However due to your anger at me your anger has become an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. I am a man of great wisdom and respect. All men of Rome should have listened to me and we would not be in such a mess. Nero if you continue to kill soon you will be left with a bunch of yesmen at you beck and call. They will not say a word when the knife comes to you. Head my warning Nero. With this Nero orders to guards to take the noble Seneca and throw him over the rock of Rome.
Warman (Seneca) is dead
With this morbid business done the Senate is opened to new business. A messenger arrives from Britain stating that a revolution has once again sprung up Gaius Suetonius Paulinus (Yaropolk) stands up and turns to Nero asking if he can return to his province. Nero nods saying I am sure of your innocence in these matters you may return.
Gaius Suetonius Paulinus (Yaropolk) has returned to Britain
Winston Hughes
03-19-2011, 12:18
The extra vote was indeed mine. I was also the one to point out the error to Captain Blackadder, resulting in jht's lynch.
I should also clarify that pizza was not told (by me, at least) that Autolycus was a power role. The gist of what I said was that Auto did not strike me as scummy. However, my feeling is that I rather overplayed the attempt to get pizza's vote off Auto, and thus tipped him to the fact that Auto was somebody important.
Fabulous timing. Why did you place the extra vote?
Askthepizzaguy
03-19-2011, 16:33
The extra vote was indeed mine. I was also the one to point out the error to Captain Blackadder, resulting in jht's lynch.
I should also clarify that pizza was not told (by me, at least) that Autolycus was a power role. The gist of what I said was that Auto did not strike me as scummy. However, my feeling is that I rather overplayed the attempt to get pizza's vote off Auto, and thus tipped him to the fact that Auto was somebody important.
No. I have not been paying close enough attention for this to be valid.
Now, special role, if you'd kindly use your power tonight so that we can verify you and move on, thank you.
Captain Blackadder
03-20-2011, 13:04
As night falls one more time over Rome another figure is to die this one is more famous then all the others that came before it. The plotters feel confident that they can strike at will destroying all who question them. In this case they will be shown to be correct. They enter the golden palace of Nero moving quietly in this house of the man that they hate the most. They enter the bedchamber of Nero and move to kill him but just before one of the men moves to stab Nero Piso motions for him to stop and come over to him. They have a quiet conversation in the next room. Piso begins
"Why bother killing Nero now when he has suffered little? We need to make him suffer as he has made the people of Rome suffer." The other plotters nod as comprehension comes over their faces. They return to the room of Nero again pulling out their knives but this time they lean over to the figure sleeping next to Nero and in one quick motion slit her throat. The then write a message in her blood on the wall.
We can get you any time we wish. There is nothing you can do to prevent the return of the republic. Your time is at an end Nero. Prepare yourself for you life will soon run between our hands."
The next morning Nero's fury cannot be contained and he orders 200 Christians killed to improve his mood. This does not help. He strides into the Senate house and tells all gathered there.
We must begin to kill those plotters who wish to destroy the Empire find them now before it is too late.
Poppaea Augusta Sabina (Winston Hughes) is dead
Askthepizzaguy
03-20-2011, 16:18
I can see my pleas were ignored.
Unless I get an explanation, I will be forced to vote for you this round. Contact me ASAP, or I will reveal you simply because I do not have a better lead and you're not being cooperative.
So what is this about? A special role who didn't use his power tonight to prove his private claim to you?
Askthepizzaguy
03-20-2011, 18:32
So what is this about? A special role who didn't use his power tonight to prove his private claim to you?
It's an unusual circumstance where the person is extremely suspicious, even if they use their power, but at least their power would seem to lend heavy evidence that they are not the main mafia. The request was pretty simple, straightforward, and easy to accomplish. And, it would have even gotten rid of me as a suspect. Instead, I see no cooperation. I'd be inclined to just vote for this person now, but I have a preference for doing things this way when possible.
vote: Romanic
As per Renata's arguments, really; an active player list would be nice though, Cap.
robbiecon
03-20-2011, 22:23
I agree with Secura, a list of the living would be useful.
johnhughthom
03-20-2011, 22:47
Vote: Romanic
You are scum.
Bah Renata's case on me is nothing. You're picking on the easy target.
Yesterday we lynched Seneca last night (Warman), according to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pisonian_conspiracy) he was one implicated in the plot, and was executed for it:
[...]
After the conspiracy was revealed, Nero ordered Piso and its leaders to commit suicide. The philosopher Seneca, the poet Marcus Annaeus Lucanus, and the satirist Petronius were also implicated in the plot and dealt with in a similar fashion.
[...]
Executed or forced to commit suicide
Piso, Plautius Lateranus, Lucan, Afranius Quintianus, Flavius Scaevinus, Claudius Senecio, Vulcatius Araricus, Julius Augurinus, Munatius Gratus, Marcius Festus, Faenius Rufus, Subrius Flavus, Sulpicius Asper, Maximus Scaurus, Venetus Paulus, Epicharis, Seneca the Younger, Antonia, Marcus Vestinus Atticus
I'd be more interested to look at those who didn't vote for him yesterday: Chimpyang, Ironhead, Johnhughthom and robbiecon.
Pizza, you should give us more details about that information you were talking about. Is this person one of those who didn't vote Warman?
Dead (8)
Skooma Addict - Vitellius - Killed Night 1
johnhughthom - Marcus Salvius Otho - Lynched Day 2
autolycus - Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus - Killed Night 2
Lord of Lent - Gaius Licinius Mucianus - Lynched Day 3
Renata - Gaius Musonius Rufus - Killed Night 3
Warman - Seneca - Lynched Day 4
Winston Hughes - Poppaea Augusta Sabina - Killed Night 4
Yaropolk - Gaius Suetonius Paulinus - WOGed Night 4
Alive (8)
ATPG
Chimpyang
Ironhead
johnhughthom 2 (replaced Tiberius)
robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Skooma Addict 2 (replaced Beefy)
johnhughthom
03-21-2011, 00:27
Wikipedia = scum.
Tally = scum
Tally = scum
I posted a player list, not a tally. :smug2:
johnhughthom
03-21-2011, 00:32
I posted a player list, not a tally. :smug2:
Player list = head scum.
robbiecon
03-21-2011, 00:33
Thank you Romanic.
Now, Vote:johnhughthom
Chimpyang
03-21-2011, 00:50
Vote : Skooma
Is one hiding?
Ironhead
03-21-2011, 01:21
Was Warman a bad guy then?
Also, am I the only one who thinks it is suspicious that askthepizzaguy announced yesterday that he had some secret information, and apparently was in touch with some important roles, and yet he wasn't night-killed?
VOTE ASKTHEPIZZAGUY
Askthepizzaguy
03-21-2011, 05:30
Was Warman a bad guy then?
Also, am I the only one who thinks it is suspicious that askthepizzaguy announced yesterday that he had some secret information, and apparently was in touch with some important roles, and yet he wasn't night-killed?
VOTE ASKTHEPIZZAGUY
I am Piso's brother Lucius, not involved in the conspiracy. I also don't know who my brother is, and in-thread attempts to trick this person into contacting me have met with nothing. Secondly, I know of a vigilante (or SK) who has elected not to attack anyone. I have now gotten communication with this person, and the explanation for why not satisfies me. If you must know who this person is this round, I will reveal it, however I would advise against it. We must focus on the conspirators, and having this person alive one more round to actually take a shot at them is necessary in my opinion, especially since I can mark them off as not one of the conspirators, and I can also mark myself off.
In case you're wondering, I volunteered to die for this "vigilante" to demonstrate their power, so I could be removed as a suspect. Romanic was also considered for the attack, but nothing happened.
Vote: Romanic
Also, one of the reasons I announced I had such information was to attempt to get a murder on myself, as I have no powers of my own.
I can believe Warman was guilty. No problem there, he was acting like he cared.
Askthepizzaguy
03-21-2011, 05:39
Sorry for the double post; I don't want to edit my vote post.
Please indicate in-thread who you want the vigilante to kill tonight to prove their power and remove a suspect. Consider it a second lynch; I'll reveal who they are before the night phase ends so that information is revealed before my own death.
I would cast my vote for death against Ironhead, because his reason for voting me almost sounded like he expected people would find me guilty after he didn't kill me. Either his scumdar is way off, or he's thinking like a scumbag while trying to put more suspicion on an already suspicious person.
Plus, I've had lots and lots of luck with OMGUS recently. Let's see if the streak will ever end.
Edit: You know, on second thought.... Romanic, I want to know who you are and who you think is guilty. I'd be willing to switch to Ironhead today and vig you tonight instead, but I would need reasons to do so.
Captain Blackadder
03-21-2011, 13:07
Round over prepare for write up
Captain Blackadder
03-21-2011, 13:22
Romanic Secura, JHT, ATPG
JHT,Robbiecon
Skumma Addict, Chimpyang
ATPG, Ironhead
Nero strides forward to deliver yet another poem
God prosper long our noble Emperor,
And long may he reign!
Piso he tried to stab him,
But it was all in vain.
For God He turned the blade aside
Piso aimed at his head;
And he felt very angry
Because he didn't stab him dead.
There's a divinity that hedges an Emperor,
And so it does seem,
And my opinion is, it has hedged
Our most gracious ruler.
Piso must be a madman,
Which is obvious to be seen,
Or else he wouldn't have tried to stab
Our most beloved god.
Nero is a good Emperor,
Which all his subjects know,
And for that God has protected him
From all his deadly foes.
He is noble and generous,
His subjects must confess;
There hasn't been his equal
Since the days of good Augustes.
Long may he be spared to roam
Among the bonnie Highland floral,
And spend many a happy day
In the palace of Toral.
Because he is very kind
To the old women there,
And allows them bread, tea, and sugar,
And each one get a share.
And when they know of his coming,
Their hearts feel overjoy'd,
Because, in general, he finds work
For men that's unemploy'd.
And he also gives the gipsies money
While at The Golden Palace, I've been told,
And, mind ye, seldom silver,
But very often gold.
I hope God will protect him
By night and by day,
At home and abroad,
When he's far away.
May He be as a hedge around him,
As he's been all along,
And let him live and die in peace
Is the end of my song.
Nero stands looking at the figure of the man standing before him and smiles a great big smile Gaius Piso you are hearby found guilty of high treason against a living god. Do you have anything to say in your defence
May the gods save Rome for nothing will save the Emperor.
With this Nero motions for the guards to take Piso outside to die a most horrible death that shall be spoken of from not to eternity as a most painful one.
Romanic Gaius Piso is dead
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-21-2011, 13:23
lol marshmallow fluff. I shall use this line and claim it as my own.
Vote: Warman
I am sorry beloved man of war,
You shall murder good Romans nevermore
I guess you are forgiven! :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
03-21-2011, 13:28
Romanic Gaius Piso is dead
Well, I'm glad there was so little discussion my idea to go after Ironhead first didn't pan out. :laugh4:
Now, the question seems to be, doth the game continue? Yes, yes it does.
Au revoir, ma chérie, and bonne chance. I recommend you kill me tonight.
Askthepizzaguy
03-21-2011, 14:01
I would vote for you, but you're frankly too awesome.
Gah, I knew that little twitch in my gut meant something. But, like I said, you're too awesome. I needed to give you a break.
I'm not Piso, I was Julius Caesar, this is all a big mistake!! :laugh4:
Bahhhh! :furious3:
Captain Blackadder
03-22-2011, 12:44
Night Falls once more over Rome and could this be the end of the Empire? One of the figures moves and slinks towards the house of one of the scions of Rome. Lucius Calpurnius Piso Frugi Licinianus (ATPG) known for his long lineage as shown by his name. He is the last direct descendent of one of the ancient rulers of the lands Marcus Crassus. However he is not to live very long. Perhaps it was thought his family connection to Piso meant he was involved we do not know yet tonight he shall die. This figure slinks into his house seeing the masks of all his ancestors he cares not what has to be done has to be done. The figure leans over the bed of Piso and Piso awakens. Piso looks the killer in the face and says "What is done is done. I shall die with honour." With this Piso stands and runs into the sword dieing the way he lived as a Roman.
Piso Frugi Licinianus (ATPG) is dead
Servius Sulpicius Galba returns from his killings happy with the idea that soon the Empire will belong to him. However he is most certainly mistaken on that account. He will never get to take that poisoned chalice for himself. That honour will fall to someone else. Two figures enter his house that night upset at the death of their leader. However this is not necessarily a bad thing Piso was always rather vainglorious and the remaining plotters have a strength of spirit that Piso did not have. The wait until Galba drops the knife to prepare for bed then rush at him with daggers drawn. Time and time again does the daggers fall until Galba the ruler of Spain is dead.
Servius Sulpicius Galba (Secura) is dead
The next morning Nero looks at the few remaining Senators and says with anger. You are running out of time find a plotter today or we are all finished
Alive 5
Chimpyang
Ironhead
johnhughthom 2 (replaced Tiberius)
robbiecon
Skooma Addict 2 (replaced Beefy)
Crikey, how wrong were you, Pizza? :P
Basically, this is the final lynch; there's apparantly two conspirators and three town, so get this wrong and it's game over as they'll have a numerical advantage come the next day phase. I'd immediately FoS anyone who doesn't show any interest in winning this game now, since it's so vital you get this right.
The main difficulty now is that there's very little to choose between each candidate because they've either been inactive/lurky or they're all as scummy as each other; you'll have to comb through the thread to route them out...
Well, the first obvious thing is Beefy/Skooma's claim.
The second obvious thing is the two days that Romanic was under pressure. My initial thought is mafia would have been loathe to vote for him on the first day, but may well have on the second. It still needs looking at, though.
Last obvious thing is overall vote/comment records.
Make some votes, peeps! The longer you delay, the scummier you look. Just be prepared to change 'em later.
Chimpyang
03-22-2011, 14:52
I think I'd better kick this off then. My suspicions are on the 2 replacements JHT and Skooma. Skooma is either hiding or AFK, but without much to go on from Beefy's post before he was replaced, we can't tell, since the WoG's came soon after, I suspect that the host was loath to swing the balance of the game by WoG'ing mafia roles. JHT is suspicious for also being a replacement, despite Tiberius not posting whatsoever , and I would say is a good candidate for lynch also.
Hence: Vote: Skooma FOS: JHT
Was anyone ever wogged?
Also, if any of you are power roles, now's the time to show your underpants and say what you've been doing.
Chimpyang
03-22-2011, 15:07
Yaropolk was technically WoG'd since there was no replacement. Cpt Blackadder als ostated that from that point on, all inactives will be WoG'd. Since there has been no warning given to Skooma, the only way for the host to now Skooma is active is through order PM's. Whether they be power role or not. Since we've lost Autolycus (Doctor/Cop?) and Secura (SK) and Winston (+1 voting), how many more power roles could be fit into this size of game?
Don't ask me, I didn't design it.
johnhughthom
03-22-2011, 15:25
Vote: Ironhead
9 posts in the thread, nothing of substance in any.
Chimpyang
03-22-2011, 15:26
Rhetorical question...
9 posts in the thread, nothing of substance in any.
Weak reasoning.
johnhughthom
03-22-2011, 15:57
Weak reasoning.
Well give me a strong reason for somebody then.
edit: Oh yes, knew I'd something to follow up on. Care to explain this Robbiecon?
Thank you Romanic.
Now, Vote:johnhughthom
Piso Frugi Licinianus (ATPG) is dead
Ohhhh!!! See, I told you that I was Julius Ceasar. ATPG was the real Piso!!
Nice trick Pizza, here's a au revoir ma chérie, for you. :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
03-22-2011, 17:37
Of course I would also be called Piso, I'm your brother baby, Yeah.
Is that right? I must have missed the memo.
Skooma Addict
03-22-2011, 18:44
Vote: robbiecon
Vote: robbiecon
What's the reason?
This is the most important lynch in the game and you're not going to be able to squeeze by with just a vote and no explanation.
Skooma Addict
03-22-2011, 20:03
There is no reason or explanation for it. It is every bit as unwarranted and baseless as it appears.
OK, this is just sad. I'm officially rooting for the mafia.
Town choice should be clear then, lynch Skooma.
Skooma Addict
03-22-2011, 23:05
Now now, no need to get flustered. I was a bit preoccupied and needed something down in case I missed another deadline.
robbiecon and Ironhead have extremely suspect votes.
Mr. Con
Beefy asks to be replaced...
My apologies to the host but if someone is eager to do so, I would like to get replaced due to the recent earth quake in Japan.
With energy shortage and recovery effort I don't think I can be as active as I would like.
If there is no one I'm willing to continue playing.
Though I feel terrible as I seem to be one of the suspect..
Vote: Beefy, I understand fully the Japan situation, and hope yourself and those you know are all ok.
However I will vote you to allow for some analysis on yesterday's voters. We'll know a lot more about everyone I imagine depending on what Beefy shows up as.
Also Vitellius was Roman Emperor for 8 months after Nero's death. So I'm guessing he was destined to take Nero's place once he died.
It seems he would rather Beefy died then have him be replaced which I find peculiar and especially offensive as I was the one to replace him.
Vote: johnhughthom, attempting to distance yourself from ye olde scum are we?
Which was in response to JHT's post...
Very kind of you to bold the scum for us Cpt B.
edit, doh, the bold are dead, right?
A post that was clearly a mistake and/or a jest.
Ironhead's are much worse.
Why would someone vote for themselves? Is this supposed to be an indication of some sort that we're supposed to vote for him?
VOTE: BEEFY
Fishing for a reason to kill a self voting player on day 1
Severed head? Yucky!
VOTE WARMAN
because of this response of his -- no vote, no analysis, nothing to offer the rest of us. I wonder if maybe he was waiting here for Tigellinus' corpse to be found, so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it. But then, how would he know where to be and when, unless he was complicit in the conspiracy?
It would appear either he is joking, or he is really grasping at straws to find a reason to vote for someone who, at the time, was already a person of interest.
I thought yesterday's vote behavior was interesting. I cast a vote on Warman, who cast a revenge vote on me, and over the course of the day we both picked up a few more votes. But as deadline loomed, Warman still had a handful of votes, and the second place candidate was not me but rather Lord of Lent. So who was it that shifted their vote from me to Lord of Lent to condemn LoL to his death and thus protect Warman from a possible lynch? None other than Secura. I suggest we lynch Secura, and if guilty, we might find that Warman was also part of this conspiracy.
VOTE SECURA
Here he accuses Secura of voting LoL to save Warman. After seeing Secura's vote for Warman which came literally, the very next post and an explanation the following post, his vote remained on her.
You were voted for because of this (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132688-The-Pisonian-Conspiracy-In-play&p=2053278997&viewfull=1#post2053278997) post; you appeared to be reading far too much into Warman's behaviour at the time, and your comment regarding "so he could be first on the spot with an observation of it" sounded really off.
The vote switch is self-explanitory to be honest; Lord of Lent hopped onto the Warman wagon without explaining his vote, making him the third voter on the wagon, a scummy accolade in it's own right. Furthermore, I don't really think one can argue when two of the best players of the Gameroom had also found his behaviour to be scummy.
My vote for Warman comes because he has been acting odd for the entire game now, and while I know that this is just his usual behaviour, I think that he could be maintaining this as a facade to appear as town as possible. This notion is further supported by a comment I have from a QuickTopic I was privy to as gamehost, whereby he was acting similarly in-thread and shrugged it off as "I'm just toying with them and keeping my mouth shut for the time being."
Ergo, he gets my vote now.
Was Warman a bad guy then?
Also, am I the only one who thinks it is suspicious that askthepizzaguy announced yesterday that he had some secret information, and apparently was in touch with some important roles, and yet he wasn't night-killed?
VOTE ASKTHEPIZZAGUY
He says that ATPG is suspicious because he claimed to have known about a vigilante but was not killed the previous night for it. He was also the only one who pointed this out.
I would cast my vote for death against Ironhead, because his reason for voting me almost sounded like he expected people would find me guilty after he didn't kill me. Either his scumdar is way off, or he's thinking like a scumbag while trying to put more suspicion on an already suspicious person.
Pizza points out how questionable his vote is. The very next night ATPG was killed.
I think robbiecon's scummy, but Ironhead's scummier. Clearly the brains behind the whole operation.
unvote: Vote: Ironhead
See, that's exactly the kinda thing the town needs to be doing in order to win... apathy will only lead to death. :3
johnhughthom
03-22-2011, 23:13
See, that's exactly the kinda thing the town needs to be doing in order to win... apathy will only lead to death. :3
I did exactly the same thing, only less boring.
Skooma Addict
03-22-2011, 23:13
I did it just for you. Hope you're happy. I died a little inside. I lost my spark.
I did exactly the same thing, only less boring.
I agree...
Chimpyang
03-22-2011, 23:43
I see your explanation and I: Unvote
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