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classical_hero
02-16-2011, 14:31
I think it is time to go after Zack
And why would you think that, Classical Hero?
johnhughthom
02-16-2011, 17:19
I think it is time to go after Zack
Vote: classical_hero
Leave my daddy alone!
Sorry if I got you in trouble mayor. I thought you were a bad man. Boat Quimby!
I'm fine with lynching classical_hero. His posts so far have not been much helpful.
How on earth is Mr Burns innocent? Who on earth then are we looking for to be the mafia? vote:Diamondeye since he normally is mafia.
Day 1 vote on DE, metagaming (maybe jokingly).
I have most definitely voted and it was for Diamondeye.
Correcting my tally mistake about him missing a vote (possible scum motivation: make sure he wouldn't look scummy for not voting)
All this talk about cows is BS.
Fluff.
vote:Fluffy
Day 2, voted for Fluffy without giving a reason.
How many people are reading that with the voice characters in their heads? I know I am,
Fluff.
I'm losing my perspicacity, so I only have a quick vote:Fluffy.
Day 3, votes Fluffy again, without giving a reason.
I think it is time to go after Zack
Today, he "votes" for Zack when he's been voting the other way for two days (in the Fluffy vs Zack debate), again without giving a reason. (I'm reading this as a failed vote because of the CFC voting format, where c_h plays a lot).Arguably the case isn't much, but it's perfect if you're looking for someone who appears to be doing just enough not to be lurking (voting every day, posting a little). But he's really not useful.
vote: classical_hero
I'm also suspicious of Csargo for his overall work so far.
Vote:DE
Day 1 vote, on DE (first vote of the game, actually).
Back in my day, there were acres and acres of vets around these parts.
"Back in my days..." post #1 (soft claiming?)
Back in my day we didn't have reason. We would draw straws to see who would be lynched. Whoever had the shortest straw we lynched them. Of course there were no general stores in our little town, so we had to walk fifteen miles to the next town over and get the straws there.
"Back in my days..." post #2
In my day we didn't have night. It was day 24/7 and we were :daisy: happy about it too. Didn't complain all the time like you kids today!
"Back in my days..." post #3
Vote:Renata 4-way tie FTW!
Day 2, voting Renata to create a 4 way tie (Renata 3, Zack 3, Fluffy 3, Khazaar). I'll give him that creating a tie, with strategic reasons in mind, could be useful
We didn't have posts back in my day. We just got two rocks and scratched our message into one of them and then threw them at each other.
Unvote:, Vote: Zack
Still Day 2, unvotes Renata to vote Zack. Tally is now Zack 4, Khazaar 4, Renata 3, Fluffy 3. I would have liked to know why he moved his vote.
Also, "Back in my days..." post #4.
Personal goals? We didn't have personal goals whenever I was a kid. We had a stick and a hoop. We would push the hoop around with the stick and we were happy with that. Didn't need personal goals back then, I don't know what's wrong with you kids today.
"Back in my days..." post #5.
That last post was made 15 minutes after the Day 3 writeup, a day in which he didn't participate to the voting, yet he's posting quickly soon after. It makes me wonder if the no-vote was made on purpose. If I am right about slashandburn being Town (because he didn't defend himself, and nobody else did), then it makes sense that the Scum wouldn't care about yesterday's lynch (only Zack and slashandburn were really threatened).
And what's up with all these "Back in my days" posts? I get that this may be soft claiming: Grandpa maybe? I'm really not a Simpson fan enough to know which character keeps repeating this over and over, and I watched the show in French, when I did. Anyway, if this is soft claiming, I think he's insisting a little much. Could be that he's saying "look, I'm not scum, I am this guy (Grandpa?)". Since I'd be surprised if the game could be broken by claiming, it makes me wonder if Csargo is really roleplaying, or if he's using it as a pretext to look innocent.
Marge isn't exactly an obvious bulletproof (though my role was more or less guessable), so it's possible.
God Emperor
02-16-2011, 21:12
hmm.. I will take a closer look at the game later on..
But Romanic sums up my immediate thoughts on, who to lynch.. However there are two people missing and those are Yarapolk and pevergreen.. pevergreen has been gone from the game entirely, which is a bit strange concidered his activity elsewhere.. I don't know what it suggests though.. I don't know him very well, so any opinion on that matter would be nice :)
Marge isn't exactly an obvious bulletproof (though my role was more or less guessable), so it's possible.
What prompted this reply? I'm not following you.
hmm.. I will take a closer look at the game later on..
But Romanic sums up my immediate thoughts on, who to lynch.. However there are two people missing and those are Yarapolk and pevergreen.. pevergreen has been gone from the game entirely, which is a bit strange concidered his activity elsewhere.. I don't know what it suggests though.. I don't know him very well, so any opinion on that matter would be nice :)
Hmmm, Yaropolk isn't "missing". Why are you saying that?
He voted every day (Romanic, Renata, slashandburn) and has 14 posts so far, which is more than many living players (Capt Blackadder 5, pever 7, robbie 7, Csargo 8, slashandburn 8, classical 9, Nightbringer 11).
pever, yes. He failed to record a vote in the last two days, though he did vote on Day 2, but unvoted before the deadline.
What prompted this reply? I'm not following you.
That's quite all right, I'm barely following myself.
Marge = bulletproof is hardly obvious (though Mayor Quimby = tiebreaker sort of is), so Grandpa Simpson = mafia isn't out of the realm of possibility.
God Emperor
02-16-2011, 21:35
it was meant as a person I wanted to have a closer look at :) not missing from the gamethread.. I know it wasn't very well phrased
it was meant as a person I wanted to have a closer look at :) not missing from the gamethread.. I know it wasn't very well phrased
I see.
So you're not looking at Zack anymore? Why?
Days are 48 hours, right? I need to take my revenge appropriately, but my head's not in the right place right now.
God Emperor
02-16-2011, 21:51
I guess I am forcing myself to be more active atm.. not what I had planned :p
Well Zack has been looked at .. so there is hardly a point in going over him again. . Like yourself I am not convinced enough about the case on him.. to be more clear, I don't know what to think. .
therefore I like the idea of striking a bit elsewhere for the moment. . and listen to what other people think
Days are 48 hours, right? I need to take my revenge appropriately, but my head's not in the right place right now.
They are 48 hours unless everyone has voted after 24 hours (as we've seen on Day 1). Somehow I doubt this will happen today.
Yaropolk
02-16-2011, 22:43
Csargo is basically claiming Granpda - a lot of people are playing their characters, and I don't find it suspicious.
vote: classical for the 15 min after close vote.
classical_hero
02-16-2011, 22:47
If you don't know who my character is after my second vote on Fluffy, then we deserve to lose.
If you don't know who my character is after my second vote on Fluffy, then we deserve to lose.
Well, I don't, but maybe it's because I'm not a big fan of the show. Looking again at all your posts, from my post #254 in the spoiler, I fail to see how we should know your role.
Even if you did soft claim something, how is that good enough for you to be innocent? Nobody is innocent purely based on their alleged role, as cover roles could have been provided by ATPG.
This one liner also reads similar to "If you lynch me, you will lose" (logical fallacy to inspire fear), which makes me more confident with my vote.
thefluffyone93
02-16-2011, 23:34
If you don't know who my character is after my second vote on Fluffy, then we deserve to lose.
Uh, what?
I should really watch the Simpsons.
Vote: classical_hero
I'm also suspicious of Csargo for his overall work so far.
Day 1 vote, on DE (first vote of the game, actually).
"Back in my days..." post #1 (soft claiming?)
"Back in my days..." post #2
"Back in my days..." post #3
Day 2, voting Renata to create a 4 way tie (Renata 3, Zack 3, Fluffy 3, Khazaar). I'll give him that creating a tie, with strategic reasons in mind, could be useful
Still Day 2, unvotes Renata to vote Zack. Tally is now Zack 4, Khazaar 4, Renata 3, Fluffy 3. I would have liked to know why he moved his vote.
Also, "Back in my days..." post #4.
"Back in my days..." post #5.
That last post was made 15 minutes after the Day 3 writeup, a day in which he didn't participate to the voting, yet he's posting quickly soon after. It makes me wonder if the no-vote was made on purpose. If I am right about slashandburn being Town (because he didn't defend himself, and nobody else did), then it makes sense that the Scum wouldn't care about yesterday's lynch (only Zack and slashandburn were really threatened).
And what's up with all these "Back in my days" posts? I get that this may be soft claiming: Grandpa maybe? I'm really not a Simpson fan enough to know which character keeps repeating this over and over, and I watched the show in French, when I did. Anyway, if this is soft claiming, I think he's insisting a little much. Could be that he's saying "look, I'm not scum, I am this guy (Grandpa?)". Since I'd be surprised if the game could be broken by claiming, it makes me wonder if Csargo is really roleplaying, or if he's using it as a pretext to look innocent.
I'm roleplaying an old person. I'm doing it because I thought it would be funny. No one seems to think it is :sad: and ATPG keeps out doing me. >:(
Vote: fluffy
This isn't out of the ordinary for classical_hero to act this way. Sorry, but not much time to say anything else; company's over.
Oh yeah, that reminds me. Vote:Zack
I remember thinking you were scummy at one point.
thefluffyone93
02-17-2011, 00:21
Gaaar....
CH of Zack?
CH OR ZACK?!?
Meh.
Unvote; Vote: Zack
robbiecon
02-17-2011, 01:27
Vote: classical_hero
I remain sure that Zack is innocent.
Captain Blackadder
02-17-2011, 01:45
Vote Classical Hero
I find him to be the most suspicious with his complaints on role playing. Though in pizza's last Simpsons game Grandpa was one of the big bads so I doubt he would do it again so quickly.
classical_hero
02-17-2011, 09:42
Well I think it is morally reprehensible that we have to vote for a person anyway, but I have to have my say and make sure the mob has voice of reason here. But since I have been accused of something I have not done, it has given me the blues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-TgKlWUuhM
slashandburn
02-18-2011, 02:21
Sorry, but due to RL issues I will be unable to continue playing this game. Sorry.
Askthepizzaguy
02-18-2011, 08:01
Then I will have Diamondeye replace you. Writeup to follow.
Askthepizzaguy
02-18-2011, 09:16
Day Four
Town Hall
Lisa Simpson: "Wait, everyone! Before you execute another fellow Springfieldian based purely on randomness, I want to appeal to your sense of justice and decency!"
Moe the Bartender: "I don't know what most of those there words mean, but you're sounding awfully scumtastic to me."
Professor Frink: "According to my calculations, this young lady has a 23.0769% chance of being guilty."
Barney Gumble: "I agree with Professor Nerd Boy! Let's string her up!"
Comic Book Guy: "Ah yes, one Lisa Simpson. I seem to recall that you've been innocent in every game so far, so surely that means we're about to experience a classic Pizzaguy plot twist, wherein the little girl is revealed to be the ghastly killer."
Ralph Wiggum: "Hi Lisa! Bye Lisa!"
Principal Skinner: "This young lady has been wrecking the grade curve for the past three semesters. Our school is losing money because miss Know-It-All here has turned us into a D-average school!"
Lisa Simpson: "Mom! Dad! You wouldn't let them do this to me! You love me too much!"
Marge Simpson: "Sorry sweetie. I've always believed in you. If you decided to be a killer, I know you'd be excellent at it. You're my special little girl. I'll support you no matter what you choose to do."
Homer Simpson: "My little girl? The greatest killer ever to terrorize Springfield? ....I'm so proud of you, honey!"
Lisa Simpson: "What? .....WHAT???? I can't believe I'm hearing this. You guys would never act this way. There's something wrong here. There's something wrong with all of you if you can't even tell that a little girl is INNOCENT!!!"
Groundskeeper Willie: "Ach, lassie, I would never assume a wee one is innocent. Most of ye are vicious little hellions. If you aren't guilty of this crime, yer guilty of somethin!"
Lisa Simpson: "....Hans Moleman, you're a soft-spoken, level-headed elderly gentlemen, who has endured more near-death experiences than anyone else in town. Please tell me you believe me when I say I didn't kill Mister Burns!"
Hans Moleman: "It's about time we killed someone besides me..... I say string her uuuuuup....."
Lisa Simpson: "Waylon Smithers, I know you cared deeply for Mister Burns, and you want justice, but I also know you're a kind and decent man who wouldn't hurt a fly unless they were the real killer!"
Waylon Smithers: "It is.... too late for me.... little Lisa. The mob has judged you to be a killer. I just want justice for Mister Burns...."
Lisa Simpson: "I can't believe I'm going to die before I reach the third grade. I always wanted to learn vector calculus before I died...." *sobbing quietly*
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP08.png
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson
Lisa Simpson was innocent!
Alive: 12/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 6/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Begin Night Four.
Askthepizzaguy
02-19-2011, 11:52
Night Four
Wiggum Residence
Ralph Wiggum: "I saw man with green shirt.... Man with blue suit.... and Daddy. This tastes like homework. I wish Lisa could help me."
Unknown figure, lurking in the shadows: .............
Ralph Wiggum: "It smells like burning in here. Hello killer!"
Unknown figure, lurking in the shadows: *smokes a cigar*
Ralph Wiggum: "You're ugly like a monkey! You smell like one too!"
Unknown figure, lurking in the shadows: *rolls forward on rollerskates, wielding a gun*
Ralph Wiggum: "I'm going to tell everyone who you are!"
Unknown figure, pointing gun: *pulls the trigger*
BANG.
Ralph Wiggum: "My stomach is crying tomato juice!"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP11.png
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum
Ralph Wiggum was innocent!
Alive: 11/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 7/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Begin Day Five.
pevergreen
02-19-2011, 13:10
Ach, I be:
Vote: Csargo
thefluffyone93
02-19-2011, 19:32
Roller-skates?
Who uses those-and smokes a cigar- at the same time?
AND WHO USES ROLLER-SKATES ANYMORE?
Vote: pevergreen
At best, you seem completely uninterested in finding scum.
Nightbringer
02-19-2011, 23:11
sorry I haven't been very present guys. I'm going to try to devote some more time to the game now, and to start with, what kind of a vote is this?
Ach, I be:
Vote: Csargo
Maybe you could give us a reason? Votes without reason just make doing the same excusable for scum. Maybe I missed something, but I don't really see any reason to target csargo in the first place?
For the entire game you seem to have just voted randomly and made fluff statements.
vote:pevergreen
Give a good reason for your vote and I may take my vote off of you.
(complete side note, why do you dislike it so much when people capitalize the p in your name?)
Diamondeye
02-19-2011, 23:45
vote:pevergreen
FoS: Yaro, GE
Hey guys, I'm back :beam:
pevergreen
02-19-2011, 23:49
I didnae do eet officaaar!
robbiecon
02-20-2011, 00:13
It is possible that Willie is mafia, but I wouldn't be out and out convinced of it.
The random vote on Csargo was somewhat necessary given the lack of information, even though many people have seemed scummy at various times.
I'll vote: Captain Blackadder.
I think Csargo is more suspicious than pever, who missed voting in the last three days.
vote: Csargo
It is possible that Willie is mafia, but I wouldn't be out and out convinced of it.
The random vote on Csargo was somewhat necessary given the lack of information, even though many people have seemed scummy at various times.
<snip>
What random vote on Csargo, are you talking about, Robbie?
And who's Willie?
You always come after me, and you're always wrong. Don't you learn from past mistakes? Welps :bounce:
You always come after me, and you're always wrong. Don't you learn from past mistakes? Welps :bounce:
By "always", you mean CoV? :smug2:
Yeah, I guess it's 2 games in a row that I'm going after you, it might be your style, however you'll have to do better than this to convince me. Being wrong about you in a game doesn't mean much.
Who do you think is suspicious, and why?
pevergreen
02-20-2011, 07:00
And who's Willie?
Yewww all be forgetting willie. No one ever lurves Willie.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hdlxQSJvoIc/Rqfs1tLttzI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/LJ6X-S73IH8/s400/willie.jpg
Thanks pever. I figured that it was a character from the show, that's not what I was asking.
I was wondering which player is Willie, to understand this comment from robbie:
It is possible that Willie is mafia, but I wouldn't be out and out convinced of it.
pevergreen
02-20-2011, 07:28
This ones as bright as an Englishman!
God Emperor
02-20-2011, 12:59
vote:pevergreen
FoS: Yaro, GE
Hey guys, I'm back :beam:
Why am I being FOS'ed ? : p
classical_hero
02-20-2011, 13:13
Roller-skates?
Who uses those-and smokes a cigar- at the same time?
AND WHO USES ROLLER-SKATES ANYMORE?
Have you not watched the show?
By "always", you mean CoV? :smug2:
Yeah, I guess it's 2 games in a row that I'm going after you, it might be your style, however you'll have to do better than this to convince me. Being wrong about you in a game doesn't mean much.
Who do you think is suspicious, and why?
It seems like more than just CoV.
Don't worry I get that all the time.
pever is kinda suspicious low activity.
I thought Zack was suspicious for some reason that I don't recall.
Diamondeye
02-20-2011, 14:17
Why am I being FOS'ed ? : p
Why do you usually FoS people? [/SARCASM]
:laugh4: It's not because I'm sending a coded message to TinCow, I can reveal that much...
Death is yonder
02-20-2011, 14:56
I feel inclined to point out that Zack does seem to have toned down immensely ever since my accusation and his subsequent defense of himself, as if trying to keep a lower profile after his near lynching.
I also note that you have about-turned on your previously unwavering votes of Fluffy (which indicate how you think he's the best suspect, and to maintain it for successive days at that...)
Moving from:
Vote: fluffy
This isn't out of the ordinary for classical_hero to act this way. Sorry, but not much time to say anything else; company's over.
to
Vote: pevergreen
At best, you seem completely uninterested in finding scum.
Without even explaining why you backed down from your previous vehemence of fluffy's guilt (implied by being focused on him as a suspect for many days since day 1)
So whats changed? :thinking:
Why is pevergreen suddenly the best suspect over fluffy, whose lynch you were supporting continually? What is the reason for him suddenly being a better candidate to be lynched than fluffy? Earlier when you sarcastically stated how you would neglect to give reasons for votes in future I didn't think you were serious. Yes you gave a one-line reason, but I'm sure you should have more than that to be convinced that pever is more likely to be scum over fluffy, whose guilt you were pretty sure of for quite a few rounds.
Will anything satisfy you?
Death is yonder
02-20-2011, 16:12
Well I do apologize if you're getting frustrated but I'm rather inclined towards your likelihood of guilt :shrug:
You've had quite a while since you hosted people over (your previous vote on fluffy, which you said was brief because you didn't have much time to post) and hence I felt that your vote on pever was not really explained, considering that you had your eye set on fluffy for quite a while, which does speak of him being your best choice (like take me accusing you for example) then suddenly you change your mind to pever on a one liner explanation that doesn't really explain how pever is suddenly more scummy as opposed to your chief suspect fluffy.
Will anything satisfy you?
You'd be surprised.
God Emperor
02-20-2011, 16:30
Why do you usually FoS people? [/SARCASM]
:laugh4: It's not because I'm sending a coded message to TinCow, I can reveal that much...
yes I know.. it was a coded message with an indirect question; What caused you to FoS me ? :p
God Emperor
02-20-2011, 16:58
Also reviewing the thread I think it is time Zack is being hung Vote: Zack
It also hits me that Fluffy has stayed very active and keeping his troll style.. But it's also as if almost focus on staying in this mode throughout the game. (I'd expect more variation if it wasn't forced)
heck.. Unvote; Vote: Fluffy
If there were good reasons as to why he has not been lynched yet, I haven't noticed them on my quick review
Diamondeye
02-20-2011, 17:50
Uhm. I FoSed you because you struck me as scummy... I can't put my finger on anything concrete... Call it a hunch.
thefluffyone93
02-20-2011, 21:56
Have you not watched the show?
No.
I prefer the Discovery Channel.
Mythbusters ftw.
Unvote, Vote: Zack
YOUR DOING IT WRONG.
Askthepizzaguy
02-21-2011, 07:18
Still missing many votes.
I think this is the current tally:
Csargo: 2 (pever, Romanic)
pevergreen: 2 (Nightbringer, DE2)
Fluffy: 1 (God Emperor)
Blackadder: 1 (Robbie)
Zack: 1 (Zack)
I think God Emperor should be lynched.
Diamondeye
02-21-2011, 18:44
I think God Emperor should be lynched.
I'd change my vote onto him if there was any chance of it happening, but it requires someone else to step up.
God Emperor
02-21-2011, 18:52
I think God Emperor should be lynched.
I think fluffy should be lynched :(
Of course you do. Here's your first three days of votes; the paydirt is at the end, surrounding my "save" of Zack and your actions on that day.
Day/Night One
Post 46 – vote Fluffy (random/silly)
Post 57 – silly again, demands romanic “explain” his comment-free “vote: Yaropolk”
95 – fluff
Day/Night Two
115 – “let’s try a second vote on Zack”. I had just placed the first one. Zack had a vote on fluffy. No other votes yet placed that day.
135
Are you saying that Renata was wrong to vote you without a reason, but your vote against fluffy is fine, for saying he's a spammer? I don't understand how your vote is better. Like I pointed out to GE on day 1, placing a vote without a reason is at least equal (and arguably better), than giving a fluff reason. I understand that fluff reasons have a fun factor on Day 1, but we're Day 2 now.
I hope you noticed the joke in that post
Why exactly are we voting Zack? All I see is a nice little bandwagon starting to form. In the interest of avoiding that, I'll vote:god Emperor for telling people who to vote for without good reason.
What you see is a second vote on Zack.. that in itself should not be grand offense, imo. But the reason was quite simple.. as you noticed, I wrote that I wanted to see how a second vote is being handled by Zack and other parties. I don't think day 1 is enough to place good cases, at least I am not good enough to do that.. so giving another stab in the dark.. what I see is a Zack that get's extreemly jumpy as soon as he sees he is in the lead ; I may naturally be wrong
Okay, two things. Why bother to point out to Romanic NOW that your challenge to him on the previous day was a joke? Why address this post of Romanic’s at all? It wasn’t even addressed to you. Worried he might have taken your attempt to be flippant and lighthearted in the wrong way? And then there’s the gratuitous smilie, which really wasn’t warranted. You look like you’re trying to present an image of “hey woo, I’m just having a good old time here, nothing serious going on”, but it’s not coming off quite right. Because you do care. (You’re also wrong to characterize Zack as extremely jumpy for merely frowning at two rapid votes coming against him.)
154 – a “why” to yaropolk voting me after Diamondeye-the-dead called me scummy. Interesting mostly because GE didn’t follow up on it.
167 – reminds people that ties will result in no lynch, hence there’s no point in trying for one. So he knows the rules. Hardly suspicious in itself, but the scum wouldn’t get that wrong. And what does he do about it? Nothing. (At this point Zack, me, Fluffy, and Khazaar are all tied. Zack and Khazaar wind up in the lead; my vote condemns Zack.)
175 – defends Khazaar’s self-defense vote, says he appears to be reverend lovejoy
READ FROM HERE DOWN IF YOU READ NOTHING ELSE
198 – Day Three
vote: zack
Explain how and why you were saved from lynch last night.
This is not good enough... We know a tie means no lynch.. and there was a tie yesterday, so Zack was never 'saved' by anyone. Thus your reason, if any, should be regarded as invalid.
judging by yesterday, Zack is today the absolute most easy target to vote for today, and people who are attacking him today should be focused on.
Vote: Yaropolk ; your vote today, and your follow up on DE's hunch
Okay, first the good stuff: at least GE is following on his challenge of Yaropolk from the previous day. That’s good. Here’s the bad. Scum knew there was nothing suspicious in Zack being saved, because they didn’t do it. Townies are mostly going to at least wonder otherwise. What does GE do here?
"Tie = no lynch, so Zack was not saved." False logic. If such an order to save Zack had been sent by scum, it most likely would have been placed early (unless the person involved could have been around exactly at the deadline, and maybe even then) so as to avoid last-minute vote changes or to avoid the necessity of a last-minute save by another scum. Zack could have been saved, and there is no reason accessible to a townie for God Emperor to logically conclude that he was not.
"Zack is the easiest target." This much is true, no argument. But I think a scum would have been more comfortable making this conclusion than a townie would.
None of that’s definitive. But the next post, I think, is. It comes after DiY has made his long argument that Zack was saved by scum and I have claimed Mayor Quimby.
222 –
bah just lost what I wrote.. =/ I will start over.
But thanks for your contribution DiY:)
Smily again. I don’t know why this bugs me so much. Looks over-ingratiating or something. Anyway.
Overall I will agree with you, but I will go through some of your points, for the sake of having more to work with :)
And another.
It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it
So yes, I'm accusing Zack
these are the two major points in your post (the last one is just being kept short so that it's more digestible)
I agree that the nature of the ability is somewhat anti townish.. Normally it wouldn't but in this game, where ties means no lynch, a tie breaking ability is working against the town's wishes as it will shorten the time we have to work with.
Zack is very aggresive, seems to care about the game, and is not working very hard to catch scum.. these are some of the points, and the first two bits I agree with, but for the sake of being fair I think we should go over his posts, to see how actively he is searching for scum.
(snip Zack’s posts)
Sorry if my comment's does not say a lot, the main purpose was just to have his posts listed.
I would say DiY is correct on Zack's behavior.. Zack is not trying to catch scum and that does not go well in hand with serious behavior.
Through here it’s OK. I don’t entirely agree with this characterization of Zack’s behavior to date, but as I said to DiY around the same time, it’s not obviously wrong. So no issue.
But honestly, that made a lot of sense, and given the lack of much else to go on at this point, there really isn't much reason not to vote:zack
At the very least he will stop tying up all our attention.
As Zack's behavior alone should be enough to have him lynched, I think this is a good point.
Again, no real issue.
It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it
Now Renata claimed Quimby rather early.. That in itself is an interesting move and should be looked at.
DiY suggests that there is a connection between Quimby and Zack, but Renata decides to make a counter to that claim
Well all righty, enough of that.
I'm Mayor Quimby, and the tie-breaking vote was mine. It was not a one-off; it will show up whenever I am part of a bandwagon that is tied with any other for the lead at the end of the day. (It will not *cause* a tie.) Hence why Khazaar got lynched; I was voting for him.
I was wondering who would be the first to portray this as an anti-town power and why; and who would conclude that it was NOT an anti-town power, and why. I won't reliably be around until this evening, so this is as far as I can let it run.
According to her post, Zack was not saved ad the accusation on Zack is more or less BS "Well all righty, enough of that."
I believe DiY points out that her focus is off.. anyway I will second his opinion (as I have done a couple of times now) .
She has nothing to say in regard of Zack's allignment.
As stated before this ability has a scummy feel to it, and that alone should mark down Renata as suspicious.
Here’s where the real issues arise. God Emperor has JUST, in his last post, said that this ability is NOT scummy. Let me paraphrase: “Ties are no lynch, so Zack wasn’t saved”. Where is the mental struggle involved in God Emperor’s 180 degree change of heart? I see absolutely nothing to indicate that he is legitimately trying to work through the implications here. What I see is
--- A knee-jerk “not scummy” (because he knows it isn’t)
--- (DiY makes long and well-reasoned post – though wrong – post implicating both me and Zack)
--- “DiY makes good points and this ability has a scummy feel to it”
God Emperor is being completely opportunistic here. He realizes his first instinct on how to deal with the situation was a tactical mistake, so he “changes his mind”, but there’s no conviction, little trace of the path he took to get from point A to dead-opposite point B. What is there instead? Some ingratiating smilies, a ton of mentions of how much he agrees with the dead townie, and deflecting comments as to why Zack should be lynched even if he is wrong about me (because he knows he is), just on Zack’s behavior.
imo there are two things to look at when it comes to her
1) Why did she so quickly come to Zack's aid and reveal her ability?
2) How has her voting patterns and similar been so far. She is in charge of a powerful (and harmful) ability, and she should thus tread with caution. There is a certain quote I wanted to reach :p
Telling an innocent player how they should have played differently. That’s scum behavior.
Marge is my hero.
I just want to second what Romanic said a few days ago; Renata did this as a scum in another game.
Yep, and it wasn’t a scum tell there either. Why didn’t you find this worthy of notice when Romanic first pointed it out?
Also, vote: Zack
Voting Zack.. so far so good.
Glad you noticed.
No I didn't.
unvote, vote Khazaar
I kinda like where Romanic is going with his vote.
looking at Romanic's post
Originally Posted by Romanic
vote: Khazaar
His last vote may be an attempt to swim under the radar. While everyone is talking about Zack/Fluffy, he's casually throwing a vote on slashandburn.
You like where he is going with this? It's a fair vote in itself in fact, but I expected.. a bit more concidering what your vote leads to
Tally
3 Zack (GE, Fluffy, DIY)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
3 Khazaar (Romanic, Blackadder, Renata)
2 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk)
1 slashandburn (Khazaar)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer)
--
3 not voting )Csargo, pever, slashandburn)
She just doomed Khazar instead of Zack..[/quote]
That’s not all I did. I also put Khazaar ahead of fluffy. Is that worth mentioning? I also put yet another person ahead of myself. Is *that* worth mentioning? Zack is only one of several possible motives for this vote.
That's hard to overlook concidering the suspicion that has been gathered Zack.. If Zack turns out to be scum, then Renata should go. Zack was saved and he was saved by Renata.
Unvote; Vote: Zack
Yup, I saved him. After starting the bandwagon on him. You mentioned it yourself, though I notice you leave out the circumstances, that I was the very first vote. Could that have been scum bussing? Sure, I suppose so. But you don’t even mention it as a hypothesis. You brush it under the rug (despite that you clearly noticed it), you don’t try to rationalize it. That speaks of you trying to justify a predetermined conclusion.
Vote GE, people.
God Emperor
02-21-2011, 19:56
Hmm.. let' see..
You disagree with my use of smileys.. I don't know if there is much to say about that.. I use smileys as I feel like^^
when it comes to your ability, what I saw was that Zack was not saved by anyone.. and you are right, I do turn 180, as DiY raises a point which I did not include myself. So I agree with what he sees, and I think it's worth exploring. In other words my previous assumption didn't include every aspect.
Yep, and it wasn’t a scum tell there either. Why didn’t you find this worthy of notice when Romanic first pointed it out?
because there is no point in going around second everything I agree with.. however, when I made a post concerning you, it makes a bit more sense to second the points others made towards you, that I agree with
That’s not all I did. I also put Khazaar ahead of fluffy. Is that worth mentioning? I also put yet another person ahead of myself. Is *that* worth mentioning? Zack is only one of several possible motives for this vote.
At first I failed to see what you mean by this .. but it can make sense if we assume there are 3 mafia.. but that was never something that has occured to me in this game.. If there are only 2 mafia, then your move only points towards Zack as the others are not affected by your change.
Diamondeye
02-21-2011, 20:05
This calls for a test of fire :stare:
unvote; Vote: GE
I'm in, let's do this.
unvote; vote: God Emperor
God Emperor
02-21-2011, 22:49
Well alright.. I hope there is the time, for the townies we have left when I am gone, to strike down the right people ^^
robbiecon
02-22-2011, 01:28
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Unvote; Vote: Romanic
We shall see what night brings.
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Don't want to vote for your partner, eh robbiecon?
God Emperor
02-22-2011, 01:54
Don't want to vote for your partner, eh robbiecon?
are you forgetting he was attacked?? :laugh4:
are you forgetting he was attacked?? :laugh4:
It was a joke...
thefluffyone93
02-22-2011, 03:21
Gah!
Life was calling, my bad people!
If it isn't too late;
Vote: GE
Askthepizzaguy
02-22-2011, 07:09
I just noticed this round was supposed to end yesterday, at the 48 hour mark, just before 6AM my time, with the same tally I posted where I said we were missing votes.
It was a tie, which should result in a No Lynch situation. Now, it's a rather obvious lynch choice.
Curse my laziness. I have to make a fair ruling here, don't I? And the fair ruling is to have the round end when I said it was supposed to end, 48 hours into it.
Still missing many votes.
I think this is the current tally:
Csargo: 2 (pever, Romanic)
pevergreen: 2 (Nightbringer, DE2)
Fluffy: 1 (God Emperor)
Blackadder: 1 (Robbie)
Zack: 1 (Zack)
I'm afraid that's going to be what I have to do, isn't it. Anything else would be decidedly unfair, favoring one team or the other.
Begin night five, no lynch.
Askthepizzaguy
02-22-2011, 10:26
Since I have all orders in, and this round had a delayed start due to my own bad timekeeping, let's move on to the next.
Night Five
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Simpson Residence
Marge Simpson could hardly sleep. The deaths of little Lisa Simpson and little Bart Simpson played in her mind over and over again. She stood in the kitchen, chopping.... was she preparing a meal? Or was she finding comfort in the familiar, repetitive motion? No mother could possibly withstand the loss of her children, without losing control. Perhaps she had gone quietly mad.
Or perhaps, she was never sane to begin with.
A familiar cloud of smoke filled the room, tickling her nose. She continued cutting.... slicing.... chopping..... and chopping. The long, deadly blade cleaving apart vegetables and meat..... the splatter getting all over the counters, the walls, and even her face.
She looked coldly out the window, with the bloody juices dripping down her stern-looking face. A cruel smile began to form.... a wicked, insane smile.
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Marge Simpson: "Never send a monkey to do a man's job."
Monkey on roller skates: Ooooh oooh ooooh AHHHHH AHHHH!!!!
Marge Simpson: "SHUT UP!"
The monkey rolled forward, and raised the revolver, pointing it at the Simpson matriarch.
Marge Simpson: "All those years.... so many years, taken from me. Ripped away.... so many dreams shattered, only to be replaced by steel bars. But inside the walls of my prison, I plotted. I spent many a night, sleepless, consumed by one desire. And that is the same desire which drives you."
The monkey looked quizzically at Marge.
Marge Simpson: "THE DESIRE FOR REVENGE!!! I was like you once. A bumbling, forgotten sidekick to that philistine who calls himself a clown. But I knew you were capable of so much more. Beneath that simian countenance lies a mind overlooked, and unappreciated in its time.... and a heart slowly twisted, darkened by years and years of neglect. It was only a matter of time.... did he spend your banana budget on booze, call girls, or did he simply gamble it all away? Did he smash you in the face with one too many pies? Or perhaps you just had enough of degrading yourself in order to make that ungrateful buffoon rich? Whatever the reason, I knew there was a breaking point, as there was for me. You wanted to get rid of him, didn't you? You wanted to.... KILL KRUSTY THE CLOWN!!!"
The monkey's cigar dropped out of his mouth, and his paw started to shake.
Marge Simpson: "I admit, I might have had a hand in pushing you over the edge.... into madness. Or should I say, what THEY call madness.... what I call it clarity. You finally saw what must be done, and you finally found the courage to do it. But, it seems, your primate brain has finally come up short. You see, everything that has transpired has done so according to my design. When you snapped and finally killed Krusty the Clown, I knew you were ready.... ready to rain destruction and carnage down upon Springfield. You and your partner!"
The monkey screeched in panic.
Marge Simpson: "Yes, I know about him, too! It was I who drove him over the edge! It was I who made him go insane! Your minds were already nothing but tightly wound strings, stretched beyond all reason, ready to snap. You have both been wronged by the people of Springfield, and you wanted to exact revenge upon them, but your feeble moralities got in the way.... I have simply made things clearer for you. Yes, my puppets, you have done for me what I've failed to do, so many times.... you've put Bart and Lisa Simpson to death. And for that, I will always be grateful."
The monkey began to sweat profusely, eyes darting back and forth, looking for an exit.
Marge Simpson: "But, my little simian friend, you've still proved to be bumbling and incompetent. You were supposed to kill them all... and you've failed to do so. Kill everyone in Springfield. Never send a monkey to do a man's job."
With a flick of her wrist, Marge Simpson sliced open the elastic bands holding her hair up. The hair billowed outward, revealing that below the blue highlights, it was red underneath.
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The monkey looked on in horror to see Krusty's old nemesis.... and arguably, the craziest, most evil man in Springfield. He pointed the gun at Bob, shaking wildly....
Sideshow Bob: "FOOLS! I should have known you wouldn't be able to do this yourselves. That's why I've come back to Springfield, to personally finish the job. And I won't be needing you anymore... or your master. You've been nothing put pawns in my little game. And if you had been able to do your jobs without my help, I might have let you live. But seeing you here, now... I realize you're just in my way.
Like all the other poor players on the Springfield stage, it's time for your final curtain to fall. Good-bye.... Mister Teeny!"
*BANG!*
Sideshow Bob: "What cruel fate.... to see the queen fall at the hands of a pawn. What cruel irony.... to be foiled by my own fiendish plans.... to fall right before the finish line.... to drink from the bitter cup of defeat once more. But you listen here, monkey, and you listen well.... you'll never get out of Springfield alive.... not until every last one of them dies. And if you are successful, then my darkest dreams will have come true.... and I will still have my revenge. And if you fail, you will suffer the same fate as me. Only death will set you free.... yours, or theirs.
Mu-hu-hahaa.... Hahaa haaahahahaaa!
HAH HAAH HAAAH HAAAHH HAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!! (http://worldwide-web.com/JeffreyBabad/Simpsons/SideshowBob/bob.wav)
Robbiecon- Marge Simpson
Marge Simpson was Sideshow Bob!
Sideshow Bob was the MAFIA MASTERMIND!
Alive: 10/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 8/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Begin Day Six.
Hmmmmmm.
Vote: God Emperor
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Unvote; Vote: Romanic
We shall see what night brings.
Don't want to vote for your partner, eh robbiecon?
are you forgetting he was attacked?? :laugh4:
God Emperor
02-22-2011, 15:49
yeah guess we can continue from where we left...
Vote: Fluffy
robbiecon
02-22-2011, 16:02
Sigh. I should have just revealed myself. I'd probably have been less likely to be killed by the town!
Death is yonder
02-22-2011, 16:04
Hmmmmmm.
Vote: God Emperor
Hmm I don't know about you but I think the write up implies a separate party, not sure if pizza tosses clues like that though. The last time I saw a mafia mastermind set-up the mastermind chose the mafia [Godfather 1]. I wouldn't put it past pizza for another twist in the mechanic though, I won't be surprised if it turns out that robbie had to choose the mafia but he was a SK and on a different team from them.
[Mostly based on the write up implication that it seems like Sideshow Bob created ("chose") two mafia.] (Just dishing out thoughts)
Arguably GE is still a fair lynch though, based on what I garnered from a quick skim of Renata's post.
yeah guess we can continue from where we left...
Vote: Fluffy
Wasn't that when you were decided to be lynched :tongue:
Edit: Hmm, Robbie's post does pose some things to consider. Meh, just speculation, carry on folks.
Main essence of the post: Two more mafia left, gogogo :yes:
Alright back to busyland.
Sigh. I should have just revealed myself. I'd probably have been less likely to be killed by the town!
Heehee.
You're still my hero, though.
robbiecon
02-22-2011, 16:08
Thanks Renata!
Hmm I don't know about you but I think the write up implies a separate party, not sure if pizza tosses clues like that though. The last time I saw a mafia mastermind set-up the mastermind chose the mafia [Godfather 1]. I wouldn't put it past pizza for another twist in the mechanic though, I won't be surprised if it turns out that robbie had to choose the mafia but he was a SK and on a different team from them.
Whether or not he chose the other two is fun speculation but ultimately WIFOM -- I don't think that I for one know robbiecon well enough to guess who would make a good choice for him. What's crystal clear is that they did not know who he was. Whether they knew of a mafia mastermind's existence and were, erm, "unwise" enough to take a second shot at the apparent bulletproof regardless; or whether they were under the mistaken impression they were the only two mafia in the game is not known.
I do think it's safe to say that both the other two mafia have cover roles of some sort, given that robbie did.
I also think it very unlikely he was not on the same team as them.
Yaropolk
02-22-2011, 16:19
I've done a bit of previous vote analysis and I think that Zack is a very solid vote. As we have just learned, Robbiecon aka Marge Simpson aka Sideshow Bob was the mafia mastermind. Let's examine his voting pattern:
Day 1:
3 Diamondeye (Csargo, Khazaar, classical_hero)
2 TheFluffyOne (Nightbringer, God Emperor)
2 Yaropolk (Diamondeye, Romanic)
2 johnhughthom (pevergreen, Zack)
1 God Emperor (Death is yonder)
1 Capt Blackadder (Renata)
1 robbiecon (Capt Blackadder)
1 Renata (johnhughthom)
1 Csargo (robbiecon)
1 Nightbringer (Thefluffyone)
1 Romanic (Yaropolk)
1 Death is yonder (slashandburn)
Robbie votes for csargo, this may be a safe vote early on for a team mate to distance yourself. Robbie is shown in the night writeup (as Marge Simpson), establishing his pro-town credibility.
Day 2:
5 Khazaar (Romanic, Capt Blackadder, Renata x 2, fluffy)
4 Zack (GE, DIY, slashandburn, Csargo)
3 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk, Khazaar)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer**)
--
1 not voting (pever)
You better think twice before attacking Marjorie Simpson (nee Bouvier). I'll have my pan, and whatever else I can lay my hands on at the ready.
Now, I don't think Zack is the person who attacked me last night, but it's clear from my poor Bart being brutally picked upon yesterday that someone is out to kill us Simpsons.
So I'm gonna have to go with Vote: thefluffyone93
Robbie puts his townie cred to use protecting Zack. Robbie and Zack voting together for CH, neither one flinches to break the Zack-Khazar tie. In this game ties result in no lynch, so probably smart move. Renata's Quimby vote pushes Khazaar over Zack.
Day 3:
Zack (3): Fluffy, NB, GE
Fluffy (3): Zack, Romanic, Classical
Slash: Renata, Yaro,
Renata: JHT
abstain: slash
I have been reading the thread on my iPod, but writing isn't much fun on it.
Ok, well we have zack, who I firmly believe is being framed, and a dead obvious one at that. Slashandburn, well I do not see the sense in that either, where exactly did that come from? And fluffy is just a continuation from yesterday.
I'm thinking we should perhaps vote for Romanic, he's really taken control of the game, what with posting vote counts etc. Perhaps he's trying to emphasise who is currently being voted for, so that those who haven't voted yet just go for those with more votes. Also he voted for zack after Yaropolk, even stating that it seemed too easy a set up but going with it anyway.
I won't vote for Romanic at this venture, as it is merely speculation, but if I , Marge should be attacked again, I'd like if you could lynch him. Also he's one of those who hasn't really implied who he is, while many have hinted.
Once again robbie makes a post to protect Zack, but doesn't come to his aid to break the tie. Tied vote results in no lynch. Renata (aka tie breaker) is killed of at night.
Day 4:
Classical Hero (6): jh, romanic, yaro, fluffy, robbie, cb
zack (2): csargo, fluffy
fluffy: zack
After fluffy's vote for zack
Vote: classical_hero
I remain sure that Zack is innocent.
Early pressure on Zack. Immediately after Fluffy's vote on Zack, robbie responds with a post defending him, then votes for CH. CH bandwagon choo choo chooses ralphie!
Day 5:
Csargo: 2 (pever, Romanic)
pevergreen: 2 (Nightbringer, DE2)
Fluffy: 1 (God Emperor)
Blackadder: 1 (Robbie)
Zack: 1 (Zack)
Tie between Csargo and Pever results in no lynch. Neither Zack nor robbie break the tie. Robbie doesn't vote at all. Potentially Csargo is one of the scum who they wanted to save (see Day 1 analysis)
Conclusion:
Clearly robbie flinched almost every time Zack was near the top of the list. I think Zack is a very good lynch candidate for today. The case on Csargo is weaker, but if we have a roleblocker or investigator among us, he is a good candidate for tonight.
Vote: Zack
Another thing:
Don't want to vote for your partner, eh robbiecon?
are you forgetting he was attacked??
This does look like Zack DID forget. I don't think mafia would forget who'd they'd attacked and failed to kill. But if robbiecon *did* choose the other two, then it's possible his voting record could be of use. I think it's worth looking at, beyond just God Emperor.
Edit @yaropolk -- see my comment here and tell me what you think it says about Zack. Then I'll read your post. :)
Yaropolk
02-22-2011, 16:31
Can you link the post from Zack? I need to read it in context.
God Emperor
02-22-2011, 16:46
no matter how bad this may look, I think Yarapolk may be right, as the game concept matches that ATPG would have allowed Robbiecon to pick his team mates :)
Unvote; Vote: Zack
Robbie puts his townie cred to use protecting Zack. Robbie and Zack voting together for CH, neither one flinches to break the Zack-Khazar tie. In this game ties result in no lynch, so probably smart move. Renata's Quimby vote pushes Khazaar over Zack.
I don't know that I buy this. What were the circumstances of this vote at the time that robbie made it? Robbie at this point has townie cred out the wazoo. If the timing was appropriate, he could have voted Khazaar outright and never been called on it even if Zack later flipped scum. And as I commented before in response to God Emperor's knee-jerk first response to my tie-break (that it wasn't scummy), a tie involving mafia *is* dangerous, if only because a single late vote can change things so easily.
Once again robbie makes a post to protect Zack, but doesn't come to his aid to break the tie. Tied vote results in no lynch. Renata (aka tie breaker) is killed of at night.
And again, he easily could have. He'd voted fluffy the previous day, how difficult would it have been to justify a repeat? Especially after stating so confidently that Zack is a frame.
Let me look at it another way for a moment. Robbie must have known a second attack would take him out. It's impossible to guess how worried he would be about a second attack, but he must have been somewhat worried. Almost certainly he would have been more worried about that than about townie condemnation. So he would have wanted to be careful about ever giving the mafia any additional incentive to go after him. At the very least I think that means not voting for the mafia. But I'm not sure it would go so far as outright confidence that a mafia teammate was being framed. That's the kind of thing the mafia says when they know they are right, isn't it?
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As an aside:
Also he's one of those who hasn't really implied who he is, while many have hinted.
(In reference to Romanic.) Who *had* hinted at that point, who is still alive? Put a notch on the suspicion meter for anyone who fits.
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The day four vote on CH came at a time when Zack had only two votes while CH had four; hardly an emergency situation.
Don't get me wrong; I do see the pattern, but I'm not sure it means what you're saying it does. It could as easily have been intended as a way for robbiecon to make himself look good when Zack was lynched; it could have been a "message" from robbie to the killing scum that he didn't believe Zack *would* be lynched, and that they should just kill him (again making robbie look good); it could have been an attempt to make Zack look bad if robbie himself was attacked a second time; it could have been all kinds of things.
Tie between Csargo and Pever results in no lynch. Neither Zack nor robbie break the tie. Robbie doesn't vote at all. Potentially Csargo is one of the scum who they wanted to save (see Day 1 analysis)
Conclusion:
Clearly robbie flinched almost every time Zack was near the top of the list. I think Zack is a very good lynch candidate for today. The case on Csargo is weaker, but if we have a roleblocker or investigator among us, he is a good candidate for tonight.
You have the strangest definition of "flinch". Robbie does support Zack verbally, but does he put his money where his mouth is? Day two the timing needs to be clarified. Day three his reaction is to ... do nothing. Day four Zack is not actually in danger when robbie "reacts". And day five his reaction is to ... do nothing. That's practically the opposite of a flinch.
All I can say is that if Zack is mafia, robbie treated the situation very strangely, with the strong verbal support combined with almost no action taken to actually spare him the lynch. That's virtually the opposite of what you normally see from nervous mafia teammates.
Can you link the post from Zack? I need to read it in context.
There's a linked quote up a few posts.
Yaropolk
02-22-2011, 17:40
There is no link for your Zack post, just a quote. You have to do "Reply with quote" to get a link.
There is something to be said for verbally defending someone, but not voting unless absolutely necessary. Words are not easy to analyze - i spent an hour looking at them this morning. The voting trend is easy to look up and will be analyzed. Day 4 flinch was early in the phase before CH bandwagon was developed, and was posted immediately after fluffy's vote on Zack.
I am not happy. I just received a PM that means I can't participate anymore. Good luck town.
Diamondeye
02-22-2011, 18:08
Well I think we're on the right track with vote: Zack. But I'm still suspicious of GE :tongue: Much more so if Zack turns up innocent.
classical_hero
02-22-2011, 23:19
Everyone flinched when I quickly voted for Zack and only now people are following my lead. :furious3:
For the life of me I cannot understand why people are so obsessed with lynching me this game. Anyone who votes for me today should be looked at very suspiciously, especially after I turn up innocent.
Here's this Role PM that in all likelihood will not change anything:
Chief Clancy Wiggum
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Role: Chief Clancy Wiggum
Alignment: Innocent
Victory Condition: All the murderers are wiped out. (Townie team victory)
pevergreen
02-22-2011, 23:45
Vote: Zack
About the timing of Robbie's votes:
Day 1, he votes Csargo.
Aruba, Jamaica, oo I wanna take ya,
to Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama
Vote: Csargo, Montego, baby why don't we go
down to Kokomo,
get there fast
and then we'll take it slow
that's where we wanna go,
way down to Kokomo.
Making the tally: DE 2, Fluffy 2, JHT 1, GE 1, Capt Blackadder 1, robbie 1, Yaropolk 1, Renata 1, Csargo 1.
Not sure if Robbie would vote his teammates on day 1, and not sure if he would consider it a dangerous move to bring him up, when just another vote would tied him to the lead. I think it's somewhat more likely that Robbie wouldn't do that, meaning Csargo looks Townier from this.
Day 2, he votes Fluffy.
You better think twice before attacking Marjorie Simpson (nee Bouvier). I'll have my pan, and whatever else I can lay my hands on at the ready.
Now, I don't think Zack is the person who attacked me last night, but it's clear from my poor Bart being brutally picked upon yesterday that someone is out to kill us Simpsons.
So I'm gonna have to go with Vote: thefluffyone93
Resulting tally: Zack 3, Fluffy 3, Renata 1, slashandburn 1, Khazaar 1, God Emperor 1.
Tying Fluffy with Zack, at 3. This is clearly helping Zack, and not helping Fluffy.
Robbie didn't vote on Day 3....
Day 4, he voted classical_hero.
Vote: classical_hero
I remain sure that Zack is innocent.
Resulting tally: classical_hero 4, Zack 2, Fluffy 1.
This is again helping Zack, and very much antagonizing classical (who ended up lynched).
Day 5, he votes Capt Blackadder.
It is possible that Willie is mafia, but I wouldn't be out and out convinced of it.
The random vote on Csargo was somewhat necessary given the lack of information, even though many people have seemed scummy at various times.
I'll vote: Captain Blackadder.
Making the tally : pever 3, Csargo 1, Capt Blackadder 1.
Somewhat antagonizing Capt Blackadder, but we can't be certain. pever looked like a good candidate at the time and robbie may have concluded that he could safely vote one of his teammates to distance himself.
Since Csargo was the only player, other than the tally leader, pever, I think there's also a possibility (slim perhaps) that pever/Csargo are his teammates. If pever was his teammate, and Csargo wasn't, then a vote on Csargo would make sense here, to help pever.
Anyway, this vote is hard to read. All the votees are still alive, and robbie isn't helping anyone.
Day 5, part 2. He votes Romanic.
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Unvote; Vote: Romanic
We shall see what night brings.
Resulting tally was: GE 3, Csargo 1, pever 1, Fluffy 1, Romanic 1
I'm very biased with this vote :laugh4:, so you might want to draw your own conclusions about me. However I think his vote implies that Robbie might have been satisfied with a GE lynch. If GE was his partner, I'd expect him to place a vote on a player with 1 vote, as a rescue attempt.
In a nutshell, if you don't want to read this analysis, I'd say that the scum levels of some players changed like this:
Zack ++++ (yummy scummy)
GE -- (possibly not scum)
Fluffy ---- (I'd be very surprised)
with other maginal calls about Csargo, pever, Capt Black and myself.
vote: Zack
Or maybe robbiecon kept insisting that I was innocent because he was the head honcho of the mafia? And he had...
PIS!!!
This is again helping Zack, and very much antagonizing classical (who ended up lynched).
Er, our communication must have been off on that one.
Vote: fluffy
This isn't out of the ordinary for classical_hero to act this way. Sorry, but not much time to say anything else; company's over.
I'm disappointed and frustrated by you lot. Especially you, Romanic.
Zack ++++ (yummy scummy)
GE -- (possibly not scum)
This contradicts what you have said in the thread up to this point.
I'm in, let's do this.
unvote; vote: God Emperor
Hmmm, no update still? Can we still vote?
I can't sleep and I am second guessing myself. No lynch doesn't look like a good idea.
unvote fluffy; vote: Zack
^This was after this post:
I didn't particularly care about voting for Zack, I did it to see who would follow behind me, and I've been of GE's (first) opinion all along: Zack is too easy a target and people going after him should be suspected. Now I see that GE changed his mind, but I didn't.
Yes Zack gave weak reasons to vote Fluffy, and yes he may not be looking hard for Scum, but I think the fact that DIY was kiilled yesterday, after voting for Zack, points toward a frame attempt rather than Zack getting rid of people suspecting him.
unvote Zack; vote: slashandburn
For backing down when it appears that voting Zack could be seen as a bad move.
How did you go from "I'm in, let's do this" [and what you have said regarding myself above] to "Zack ++++ (yummy scummy)
GE -- (possibly not scum)"? Because the mafia godfather whom presumably knows who is innocent and who is not has insisted I'm innocent?
with other maginal calls about Csargo
I recall you making stronger statements than this concerning Csargo.
This contradicts what you have said in the thread up to this point.
What are you trying to prove here? That my opinion of you changed after we learned that Robbie was mafia?
I'm not denying it. Before last night, everything was "what ifs", "buts" and "maybes", and we now have good evidence to work with. Robbie's votes helped you twice.
How did you go from "I'm in, let's do this" [and what you have said regarding myself above] to "Zack ++++ (yummy scummy)
GE -- (possibly not scum)"? Because the mafia godfather whom presumably knows who is innocent and who is not has insisted I'm innocent?
If you read my previous post, you would know why I think GE is less likely innocent (robbie didn't protect him) and why you are likely (robbie's votes helping you). Makes me wonder if you read my post.
I recall you making stronger statements than this concerning Csargo.
Sure, when we were still working with peanuts, but now we have evidence to work with. This just seems like a bad attempt to defend yourself.
If you read my previous post, you would know why I think GE is less likely innocent (robbie didn't protect him) and why you are likely (robbie's votes helping you). Makes me wonder if you read my post.
Yes, I didn't read it. This is why I quoted a specific part of it that I would have skimmed over if I hadn't read your post.
To the grave with ye!
Vote:Zack
Captain Blackadder
02-23-2011, 13:10
Vote Zack
The voting pattern of Bob seems to indicate a longer voting pattern then can be explained by PIS.
johnhughthom
02-23-2011, 13:15
The ghost of Ralph wanders in.
Leave my daddy alone!
Nightbringer
02-24-2011, 00:24
Okay, I think I'm up to date. sorry you had to leave renata!
as to the vote, I simply don't see the zack case as plausible. The evidence given makes sense, but it all depends on robbiecon knowing who zack was. If robbie had known that zack was mafia, surely zack would have known the same, and would not have killed robbiecon.
Unless their is some kind of PVC to kill the mafia boss.
Basically I think this is just a continued framing of zack, and who is leading the charge? yaropolk
Until now you have been staying pretty quiet, safe votes, no cross voting between you and robbie, until now when you come out with this big case once the heat is finally starting to cool on zack.
I may be wrong, but there are already more than enough votes on Zack if you are right, so vote:yaropolk
God Emperor
02-24-2011, 00:31
If robbie had known that zack was mafia, surely zack would have known the same, and would not have killed robbiecon.
Unless their is some kind of PVC to kill the mafia boss.
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I doubt that is the case. I can explain why. Robbiecon picks his buddies (all points towards this) , but they do not know that he is the boss. (since they killed Robbie it's not even certain that they knew that there was such a godfather)
The reason I say it's unlikely that they would know him just because he knows them, is because of the rule of no talk outside of gamethread.
This is not a rule ATPG usually uses, and this scenario may explain why it has been taken in use this time
The reason I say it's unlikely that they would know him just because he knows them, is because of the rule of no talk outside of gamethread.
In every game I have seen where private communication wasn't allowed (including ones I have hosted), allowances were made for mafia and any other special groups.
As for the rest of your post, could you explain more? [You seem to know a lot concerning the matter. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif]
Askthepizzaguy
02-24-2011, 10:28
Day Six
Town hall
Waylon Smithers: "There is obviously still a murderer on the loose. According to the vote tally, you all believe that it was..... Chief Wiggum."
Chief Wiggum: "What? See, this is why you should leave the policing up to the professionals; the police! You're saying I murdered my own little boy, Ralphie?"
Moe the Bartender: "There! Right there, he admitted it! Off with his head!"
Barney Gumble: "The angry, violent mob has spoken!" *BELCH*
Groundskeeper Willie: "Now it's Willie's turn! Arrest Willie for growing those special plants indoors, will ya? ....Nobody tells Willie when and where he can grow potatoes!"
Comic Book Guy: "Remember that ticket you gave me for 'waddling down the sidewalk without a permit?' Well let's see you waddle your way out of this one!"
Hans Moleman: "Kill..... kill.... kill.... kill....."
Homer Simpson: "What the old guy said! Kill! Kill! Kill!"
Chief Wiggum: "That's it, I'm bringing you all in for drunk and disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, threatening a police officer, and having more than two people gathered together in a given place without offering free donuts!"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP22.png
Zack- Chief Wiggum
Chief Wiggum was Innocent!
Alive: 9/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Dead: 9/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
Begin Night Six.
Death is yonder
02-24-2011, 10:43
And so ends my attempted venture at being more vocal.
I had a nagging suspicion after a while that Zack was being left alive as lynch bait. Probably best to clear this out of the way as the town approaches the end game stage.
Apologies Zack :embarassed:
Askthepizzaguy
02-24-2011, 11:02
And so ends my attempted venture at being more vocal.
I had a nagging suspicion after a while that Zack was being left alive as lynch bait. Probably best to clear this out of the way as the town approaches the end game stage.
Apologies Zack :embarassed:
Calm down, Neddily-Diddly-Diddly-Diddly. You tried your best, mistaken identity-dentity-dentity-dentity. No need to apologize, whoopsie-daisily-daisily-daisily....
AW HECK DIDDLY DING DONG DANG :daisy:!
:laugh4:
Meh, he was really Chief Wiggum. :(
johnhughthom
02-24-2011, 12:11
I told you twice...
Diamondeye
02-24-2011, 12:24
Romanic, that comment is just... :shame:
I say pever and Yaro...
Nightbringer
02-24-2011, 17:48
agreed. Pever has been acting very strangely all game, and now seems to have gone absent, when he was posting a lot in the beginning. In fact, he seemed to go absent right after I voted for him...
As to yaro, well, he made sure we all kept going for Zack, possibly making sure the frame on zack went according to his plan.
Yaropolk
02-24-2011, 20:36
Really? I thought I just laid out a really good case!
Chief Wiggum was Innocent!
I hate you all.
I really hate to accuse people that vote for me unless there are very good reasons to do so.
There are good reasons.
pevergreen
02-24-2011, 23:49
agreed. Pever
Vote: nightbringeR
Nightbringer
02-25-2011, 04:34
oops, sorry pEVER. XD
However, I capitalized that because it was the beginning of a sentence, not because it was your name. So I believe that does not violate your wishes.
Askthepizzaguy
02-25-2011, 08:06
Night Six
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Burns-manor.png
Burns Manor
Waylon Smithers: "Why did you have to die.... why.... why..... why????"
Smithers gulped down the last of yet another bottle of rum, and tossed it in the pile along with all the rest. The unwashed, unshaven, hideous drunken wreck of a man wept openly. He couldn't even hear the sound of footsteps coming up the staircase behind him.
Waylon Smithers: "I can't go on like this. I can't go on without Mister Burns.... oh Lord, take me now!"
Unknown figure: "Allow me to be of some assistance..."
*BANG*
Waylon Smithers: "I'm coming, Monty.... I'm coming!"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP20.png
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers
Waylon Smithers was Innocent!
Alive: 8/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
Yaropolk
Dead: 10/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Begin Day Seven.
pevergreen
02-25-2011, 09:02
Vote: Nightbringer
Hmm *checks the list*
Vote:pevergreen
Yep, you're on the list.
Here's a list of robbie's posts, for reference, after the game started, and before he died. There's only 7 of them.
Post #1 - Day 1
Aruba, Jamaica, oo I wanna take ya,
to Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama
Vote: Csargo, Montego, baby why don't we go
down to Kokomo,
get there fast
and then we'll take it slow
that's where we wanna go,
way down to Kokomo.
Post #2 - Day 2
You better think twice before attacking Marjorie Simpson (nee Bouvier). I'll have my pan, and whatever else I can lay my hands on at the ready.
Now, I don't think Zack is the person who attacked me last night, but it's clear from my poor Bart being brutally picked upon yesterday that someone is out to kill us Simpsons.
So I'm gonna have to go with Vote: thefluffyone93
Post #3 - Day 2
Well, might I just say that Grampa Simpson, Hans Moleman and Jasper Beardly could potentially be candidates for older people in this game, However, I am unaware if either Hans or Jasper were war vets. It is likely that Grampa Simpson is the only one of these three in this game, but one of the others could potentially be here, it really depends on askthepizzaguy's preferences.
Post #4 - Day 2
Ok, I know who you are now.
your ass is mine : quote from the Principal in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
And Skinner is a Vietnam war vet.
Post #5 - Day 3
I have been reading the thread on my iPod, but writing isn't much fun on it.
Ok, well we have zack, who I firmly believe is being framed, and a dead obvious one at that. Slashandburn, well I do not see the sense in that either, where exactly did that come from? And fluffy is just a continuation from yesterday.
I'm thinking we should perhaps vote for Romanic, he's really taken control of the game, what with posting vote counts etc. Perhaps he's trying to emphasise who is currently being voted for, so that those who haven't voted yet just go for those with more votes. Also he voted for zack after Yaropolk, even stating that it seemed too easy a set up but going with it anyway.
I won't vote for Romanic at this venture, as it is merely speculation, but if I , Marge should be attacked again, I'd like if you could lynch him. Also he's one of those who hasn't really implied who he is, while many have hinted.
Post #6 - Day 4
Vote: classical_hero
I remain sure that Zack is innocent.
Post #7 - Day 5
It is possible that Willie is mafia, but I wouldn't be out and out convinced of it.
The random vote on Csargo was somewhat necessary given the lack of information, even though many people have seemed scummy at various times.
I'll vote: Captain Blackadder.
Post #8 - Day 5
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Unvote; Vote: Romanic
We shall see what night brings.
Post #1 : His Day 1 vote, on Csargo. Resulting tally was (DE 2, Fluffy 2, GE 1, CB 1, robbie 1, Yaro 1, Renata 1, Csargo 1)
He didn't care about the tally leaders, or he might have voted for someone with a vote already. We know that DE & Fluffy were innocent. The vote on Csargo may as well be a distancing tactic, as much a vote on an innocent. I'm tempted to give some creds to Csargo, but not much.
Post #2 : His Day 2 vote, on Fluffy. Resulting tally was (Zack 3, Fluffy 3, Renata 1, slashandburn 1, Khazaar 1, GE 1)
It lookied like he was trying to help Zack, but we know that he was Chief Wiggum. I don't think there's anything else to get from this vote.
Post #3 : Two posts before Robbie made this one, Yaropolk voted Captain Blackadder, calling on a false claim because he was acting like an old man, when Csargo was already roleplaying an old man. Here's Yaro's post,
CB comes out early on and claims to be a war vet. Immediately Grandpa Simpson comes to mind.
Csargo repeatedly comes out with rambling old man stories. Grandpa also comes to mind here. Csargo comes back with this claim multiple times, and CB doesn't speak up after this. I think CB tried to do a false claim early on then bit his tongue.
Vote: Captain Blackadder
CB, if there is another war vet character, then speak up now.
So Robbie, in post #3, points out that there could be more than one old men in the game, mentioning two other possibilities. It looks like he's trying to help Captain Blackadder, trying to dissuade Yaro that CB is suspect for being an old man.
CB replied quickly after,
Now son that is no way to speak to a vet I know you can read my thoughts. Just remember, if I find out you are mafia, your ass is mine. Yes, you heard me. I think words I would never say. Don't just think of World War II there have being more wars.
Post #4 : After CB's last post, Robbie made post #4, stating that he recognized CB as Skinner. Protecting him again, and it worked, Yaro unvoted him soon after. CB looks bad here.
Post #5 : Interesting post, because robbie says a lot.
1) He's posting from his iPod (we should have picked on that one!!!! Only scums are posting from cells. :furious3:)
2) He thinks Zack is obviously being framed (we know Zack was innocent).
3) He doesn't see any reason to vote for slashandburn (slashandburn, replaced by Diamondeye 2, is still alive).
4) Perhaps we should vote Romanic, for taking control of the game with vote counts. :laugh4: He's gunning for me with a bad argument.
It's interesting that he didn't vote though. This was late on Day 3, and the running tally was (Zack 3, slashandburn 3, Fluffy 2, Renata 1). His no-vote implies that he didn't care whether Zack or slashandburn (now DE2) would be lynched. If one of his partners was threatened, I think he would have voted, so this gives me a good feeling about Diamondeye.
Post #6 : His Day 4 vote, against classical_hero. It doesn't mean anything now, as everyone who received votes on that day is dead and innocent.
Post #7 : His Day 5 vote, for Captain Blackadder. Resulting tally was (pever 3, Csargo 1, CB 1)
Looks like robbie doesn't care about lynching pevergreen, or he would have voted Csargo (* unless they're both his partners, of course).
Post #8 : Day 5 vote, take two. He voted for me, for being 3rd on the God Emperor bandwagon. This vote ended up reversed because ATPG missed the deadline and cancelled votes that were made after. However I'm guessing that nobody knew it would be reversed, so his reaction means something.
The resulting tally was : GE 3, Csargo 1, pever 1, Fluffy 1, Romanic 1. If Robbie cared about GE being lynched, he would have voted Csargo/pever/Fluffy instead of me (who had no vote). GE looks good here.
tl;dr version (if you can't be bothered to read):
Good
Diamondeye looks good after post #5.
God Emperor looks good after post #8.
pevergreen looks good after post #7 (unless Csargo is also scum, meaning Csargo should be lynched before pever, to validate).
Dunno
Csargo looks marginally good, after post #1, but it good be a distancing tactic.
Yaropolk. No interaction with robbie, except that he voted for CB, and was convinced to unvote by CB & robbie.
Nightbringer had no interaction with robbie at all.
Bad
Captain Blackadder looks bad (post #3 & #4). Unclear after post #7.
vote: Captain Blackadder
I'm voting him, for the posts #3 & #4, because robbie helped him, and on the assumption that post #7 might have been a distancing tactic by robbie.
I think Csargo and Nightbringer are okay choices, and that we shouldn't lynch Yaropolk before CB.
Also, I'd like to hear why pever is voting Nightbringer, and why Csargo is voting pevergreen.
pevergreen
02-25-2011, 11:06
Also, I'd like to hear why pever is voting Nightbringer, and why Csargo is voting pevergreen.
agreed. Pever has been acting very strangely all game
Guess.
Diamondeye
02-25-2011, 11:12
Vote: God Emperor
Captain Blackadder
02-25-2011, 13:43
I would say that his post defending me is another example of PIS just as he was with Zack he knew I was innocent and my post had a quote from Skinner from the episode about Bart and the trial.
Yaropolk
02-25-2011, 16:08
1) What's PIS?
2) Vote: csargo I believe day 1 vote was distancing tactic
robbiecon
02-25-2011, 17:19
Perfect Information Syndrome.
I'm enjoying the analysis of my posts.
thefluffyone93
02-25-2011, 21:54
rawrglefragldy.......
Oh well....at least I'm with Burns now.....
God Emperor
02-25-2011, 22:00
Bah a little busy right now.
Vote: Nightbringer
I will tomorrow or so start looking back in the thread
Nightbringer
02-25-2011, 22:41
How about some explanation God Emperor?
I am justing getting weird vibes from pevergreen over and over. plus, no one is really questioning his no reason vote on me (my saying I suspected him is not a reason).
So I think I will question that vote, why are you really voting me pever? Is it just a convenient way to throw away a vote, avoiding attention because no one will question it based on the the fact that I capitalized your name at the start of a sentence.
vote:pevergreen
pevergreen
02-26-2011, 01:30
the the fact that I capitalized your name
Theres your reason.
Nightbringer
02-26-2011, 07:18
So I should not capitalize your name even if it is at the beginning of a sentence?
Askthepizzaguy
02-26-2011, 07:27
So I should not capitalize your name even if it is at the beginning of a sentence?
You shall not capitalize his name even if you're shouting in all caps.
HIP-HIP-HOOORAY FOR pEVERGREEN!!!!
Nightbringer
02-26-2011, 07:44
okay, I promise to get back on topic after this, but WHY is it such a big deal whether pevergreen is capitalized or not?
Askthepizzaguy
02-26-2011, 07:53
okay, I promise to get back on topic after this, but WHY is it such a big deal whether pevergreen is capitalized or not?
If people kept calling you "newtbringer" wouldn't you correct them?
I dunno, I don'tcare, and I refer you to my rules for Lylat Wars (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?128601-Star-Fox-Lylat-Wars-Concluded) concerning pevergreen's name.
14. pevergreen's name is pevergreen with a lowercase p, but frankly I am tired of hearing about it.
* If pevergreen wants to correct people about the not-capitalization of his name, he can do it privately.
* If people want to ask him about why that is so, they can do it privately.
* I am sooooo tired of seeing this exercise repeat every single game... clogging up the thread with posts about capitalization of names. This bartender says: "Take it outside.''
Nightbringer
02-26-2011, 07:56
I have no where else to ask :embarassed:
5. No out of thread communication unless specifically sanctioned by me, the game host. You break this rule, you are WOG'ed immediately.
:D
But back no topic, God Emperor, are you just following pever's lead in the hopes of a nice juicy bandwagon, or do you have a legitimate reason for voting me?
Askthepizzaguy
02-26-2011, 08:02
The rule applies to communications regarding this game; you're not banned from talking to pever about his name, except in this thread.
THE PIZZA GOD HAS SPOKEN. MY WORD IS LAW.
God Emperor
02-26-2011, 16:08
@Nightbringer
I am voting because of a weak reason; feeling
I have a feeling you have been just playing along which does not match my view on you, example how you played in starwars etc.
Nightbringer
02-26-2011, 20:24
@Nightbringer
I am voting because of a weak reason; feeling
I have a feeling you have been just playing along which does not match my view on you, example how you played in starwars etc.
I'm sorry you think that, but I guess their is nothing I can say to diffuse a feeling, I just ask you to reconsider.
however, that doesn't seem very scummy of a way to respond to me, so I'll unvote
As to who to vote for today, I still think vote:yaropolk was inciting a lynch on Zack even though when examined closely it does not seem very plausible. (at least to me)
FOS: Romanic for doing the same.
You look very nervous suddenly Nightbringer, and backing off GE's accusation, while asking him to reconsider his vote, is also very scummy.
unvote; vote: Nightbringer
The rule applies to communications regarding this game; you're not banned from talking to pever about his name, except in this thread.
THE PIZZA GOD HAS SPOKEN. MY WORD IS LAW.
OH THE HUBRIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0
You look very nervous suddenly Nightbringer, and backing off GE's accusation, while asking him to reconsider his vote, is also very scummy.
unvote; vote: Nightbringer
Why the change of heart concerning GE?
Why the change of heart concerning GE?
Is that question directed at me? If so, I wasn't voting GE, I was voting CB.
Askthepizzaguy
02-27-2011, 08:07
Day Seven
Town Hall
Principal Skinner: "Order, order, everyone sit down. Moleman, spit out that gum!"
Moe the Bartender: "All right, put your votes on this slip of paper, and pass it up to the front."
Groundskeeper Willie: "I think the fat one did it."
Homer Simpson: "Hey! You take that back, I've lost a lot of weight."
Comic Book Guy: "Indeed, Homer, but I believe the Groundskeeper was referring to me."
Barney Gumble: "He was talking about me!"
Hans Moleman: "There sure are a lot of fat men in here...."
Professor Frink: "According to my Gut-check Accu-Accuse Scumdarometer, the guilty person (or persons) here is (or are)...."
Moe the Bartender: "Yeah yeah, whatever egghead, get to the point...."
Professor Frink: "It seems that the murderer of Mister Burns was..... none other than Homer Jay Simpson!"
*all gasp*
Homer Simpson: "D'oh!!! Why do lynch mobs always come after me??"
Comic Book Guy: "Woah, woah, woah.... Homer Simpson was already accused of the attempted murder of Charles Montgomery Burns in the sixth season episode 2F16 entitled 'Who shot Mr. Burns?'; therefore I believe putting him on trial again for the same crime would be double jeopardy."
Principal Skinner: "Mmmmm indeed. Well the votes have been counted, it's Homer Simpson all right. How do we get around the pesky double jeopardy law?"
Moe the Bartender: "What in the blue heck are you talkin' about, pinhead? We're a violent lynch mob... we don't need to follow the law."
Groundskeeper Willie: "I can't agree more. If he shot Burns, I say we bury him up to his head in rock salt at midday, and point a giant magnifying glass at his face."
Barney Gumble: "I say we crush up some bar glasses and feed it to him until he dies!"
Homer Simpson: "What the.... you don't even know if I did it! You're all a bunch of freakin' wierdos, man!"
Hans Moleman: "I say we point a sandblaster at his stomach until it shoots out the other siiiiiide...."
Comic Book Guy: "That one is not actually that bad. I give it a rare two and a half stars."
Seymour Skinner: "I have to insist that we follow what little remains of the law in this town. We can't try Homer Simpson twice for the same crime."
The corpse of Mister Burns even weighs in on the matter.
Charles Montgomery Burns: "Indeed... you nitwit hooligans haven't gotten it right yet. Don't you remember? This buffoon, whoever he is, once held me at gunpoint and threatened my life. Need I remind you that he possesses neither the cranial capacity, nor the opposable digits to operate a firearm."
Homer Simpson: ".....that's right. So I couldn't have done it!"
Suddenly, a hammer falls from the rafters, and lands squarely on Homer Simpson's head. He is knocked to the ground and the clatter of metal against tile reverberates throughout the assembly hall. Something has fallen out of Homer's pocket.
Homer Simpson: "OWWW!!!!!"
Moe the Bartender: "Hey, wait a minute.... what's that over there on the floor?"
Principal Skinner: "Why, it appears to be some sort of firearm."
Barney Gumble: "A pistol!" *BELCH*
Homer Simpson: "Stupid hammer! Who dropped that on me?"
*the ominous sound of someone sucking on a pacifier is heard from high above the assembled guests. A tiny silhouette crawls back toward the heating ducts....*
Barney Gumble: "Hey, Homer.... when did you re-grow your hair?"
Moe the Bartender: "Wait a minute.... there's somethin' not right goin' on around here. This 'Homer Simpson' was wearing a bald cap. He's not even Homer Simpson at all!"
Homer Simpson/Herb Powell: "That's right, you :daisy: MORONS! You finally got something right, after what has to be centuries of abject failure."
Comic Book Guy: "Herb Powell, Homer's illegitimate half-brother, whose life was once ruined by one Homer Simpson. The resemblance is striking."
Herb Powell: "Good job, numb nuts. All those years of not having a girlfriend must have given you plenty of time to study up on trivia."
Principal Skinner: "Why did you do it, Powell?"
Herb Powell: "Why? WHY??? I'll tell you why. Because Homer Simpson ruined my life... I had my own Automotive company, and I was as rich as Burns, and then Homer came along and my company went belly up! Then, I invented a baby translator which would have allowed mothers to know exactly what their infants wanted, but none of you dipwads ever bought one!"
Moe the Bartender: "Oh yeah, that's right. I was meanin' to buy one for my cousin's baby shower, but I forgot."
Herb Powell: "I've been living out of dumpsters for far too long... and then, I asked Mister Burns for some change, and he struck me in the face with a bottle of Cold Duck. That's when I finally snapped, and I got revenge on Burns... and Homer Simpson... and the rest of you asinine piles of dog feces in this hick town!"
Hans Moleman: *wielding sand blaster* "Let's get him, everyone..... kill kill kill....."
Herb Powell: "Come here, you bunch of morons! I'll rip out your eyeballs with my teeth! I'll feed you your own entrails!"
Barney Gumble: "Hold him down!"
Moe the Bartender: "Here's a present for you, Herbie.... brass knuckles!"
Herb Powell: "You'll never take me alive, you bunch of ingrates! My trained monkey will destroy you all!
MISTER TEENY!!!
AVENGE ME!!"
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Nightbringer- Homer Simpson
Homer Simpson was Herb Powell!
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Herb Powell was MAFIA!
Alive: 7/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
pevergreen
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
Yaropolk
Dead: 11/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
Begin Night Seven.
Nightbringer
02-27-2011, 22:09
damn, you guys got me, well, thats what I get for being away from computers for a while after panicking with my first time being mafia.
Good luck _____ and _____, you waste these little townies for me k
Is that question directed at me? If so, I wasn't voting GE, I was voting CB.
No, I meant that two phases ago you were willing to lynch him, but now you're talking like he's a townie.
No, I meant that two phases ago you were willing to lynch him, but now you're talking like he's a townie.
Ah yes. This was before robbiecon was killed, my opinion of many players, including GE, has changed since we found our first mafia.
Diamondeye
02-28-2011, 01:06
Ah yes. This was before robbiecon was killed, my opinion of many players, including GE, has changed since we found our first mafia.
If not him... YOU? :stare:
If not him... YOU? :stare:
M-me? Mafia?
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2011, 08:06
Night Seven
Springfield Elementary School
Groundskeeper's shed
Groundskeeper Willie: "Call Willie a moron, will ye? Well look what happened to you, laddie. Willie's makin' haggis with an extra ingredient: yer brains!"
Powell's head said nothing.
Groundskeeper Willie: "And Willie's not stupid. Willie knows what'll happen next... someone will point the finger at him, and say Willie shot Burns."
Willie took a long swig of whiskey, and continued.
Groundskeeper Willie: "I could ne'er have shot Burns. It's impossible for me to fire a pistol! If you check me medical records, you'll see I've got a cripplin' arthritis in me index fingerrrrrs."
Powell's head said nothing.
Groundskeeper Willie: "I got it from space invaders in 1977."
Powell's head said nothing. Suddenly, Willie turns his head.
Groundskeeper Willie: "I could smell you comin' a mile away, you filthy stinkin' animal. I'm ready for ya; Willie's covered from head to toe in bacon grease. There's not a creature alive that can out-wrestle a greased Scotsman!"
The dark figure in the corner continued puffing on its cigar, silently.
Groundskeeper Willie: "No? Don't want to fight me like a man? Very well, I guess I'll just have to slaughter you like an animal!"
Willie grabbed a high-powered, gigantic hedge trimmer. It looked like a mini-chainsaw, and roared to life.
*BANG*
Groundskeeper Willie: "Where are ye going? Come back here and fight Willie, ya cigar-smoking surrender monkey! Ach, they don't pay me enough to care about this. I ne'er should have turned down the lead role in Braveheart."
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pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie
Groundskeeper Willie was innocent!
Alive: 6/18
Captain Blackadder
Csargo
God Emperor
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
Yaropolk
Dead: 12/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie (Innocent)
Begin Day Eight.
pevergreen
02-28-2011, 08:15
Grease me up!
Askthepizzaguy
02-28-2011, 08:18
Okie dokie.
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God Emperor
02-28-2011, 11:09
DE it's time you stop hunting me ! :p
Now Romanic, I have for some time wanted to see you lynched.. The problem is that you have been under no pressure a all, been active and helpful (assuming you are not scum :p) , and you are still alive.. I will ofc later on go back and review your posts, but for now Vote: Romanic
Diamondeye
02-28-2011, 11:27
I... Can't... Stop... Now...
Vote: GE :tongue:
God Emperor
02-28-2011, 12:10
Why then ? ^^ Did you notice that Nightbringer was scum?? :p
Diamondeye
02-28-2011, 12:28
Why then ? ^^ Did you notice that Nightbringer was scum?? :p
Yeah... Why?
God Emperor
02-28-2011, 13:15
I am the one sending him towards his lynch :o
even though you are obsessed with having me lynched, you cannot ignore this fact ! :p
DE it's time you stop hunting me ! :p
Now Romanic, I have for some time wanted to see you lynched.. The problem is that you have been under no pressure a all, been active and helpful (assuming you are not scum :p) , and you are still alive.. I will ofc later on go back and review your posts, but for now Vote: Romanic
Lynching me because I am still alive? Is that the only argument you can come up at this point? So yes, I also support your idea to read back through the thread. Who know what you might find. :smug2:
I'm going back to my yesterday case, on Captain Blackadder, but looking at the voting records, I think Csargo might also be a good idea.
vote: Captain Blackadder
Yaropolk
02-28-2011, 15:25
I just finished reading through all of Nightbringer's posts.
He focused his voting heavily on GE a few rounds in a row
Voted for me twice
Also for Pever, Zack, Fluffy, and one FOS on Romanic followed by a countervote by Romanic on NB.
Pever, Zack, and Fluffy are all dead innocents.
Since this is NB's first time as scum I don't think he was voting for his partners but probably playing it safe.
That leaves CB, DE(replacing S&B), and Csargo.
I see one post defending Csargo, which may be a bit scummy:
sorry I haven't been very present guys. I'm going to try to devote some more time to the game now, and to start with, what kind of a vote is this?
Maybe you could give us a reason? Votes without reason just make doing the same excusable for scum. Maybe I missed something, but I don't really see any reason to target csargo in the first place?
For the entire game you seem to have just voted randomly and made fluff statements.
vote:pevergreen
Give a good reason for your vote and I may take my vote off of you.
(complete side note, why do you dislike it so much when people capitalize the p in your name?)
And
Post Counts:
DE + SB = 31
Csargo = 16
CB = 8
Based on post counts, I'd like to get rid of CB as he's lurking like a pro.
Yaropolk
02-28-2011, 15:25
Forgot to Vote: Captain Blackadder
Diamondeye
02-28-2011, 18:33
Sure, unvote, vote:CB. The GE thing was just a tease anyway.
Based on post counts, I'd like to get rid of CB as he's lurking like a pro.
Why is inactivity a case against Blackadder when the mafia have been active every night?
Diamondeye
03-01-2011, 02:51
Why is inactivity a case against Blackadder when the mafia have been active every night?
It isn't, Yaropolk is the last scummer.
unvote; vote: Yaro
It isn't, Yaropolk is the last scummer.
unvote; vote: Yaro
What caused you to go from agreement to outright accusation?
Askthepizzaguy
03-02-2011, 08:10
Romanic: 1 GE
Blackadder: 2 Romanic, Yaro
Yaro: 1 DE
Really guys? 4 votes out of 6?
Pizza is disappoint. And you will be too.
Askthepizzaguy
03-02-2011, 08:15
Day Eight
Town Hall
Some people: "Lynch Skinner!"
And so, Skinner was lynched. He said not a peep on his way to his death, too. He wasn't the only silent one, either.
Pizza was disappoint.
They were, too.
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Captain Blackadder- Seymour Skinner
Seymour Skinner was innocent!
Alive: 5/18
Csargo
God Emperor
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
Yaropolk
Dead: 13/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie (Innocent)
Captain Blackadder- Seymour Skinner (Innocent)
Begin Night Eight. :skull:
Diamondeye
03-02-2011, 21:04
Well, it's Yaropolk, guys.
((As noted elsewhere in other threats, a recent theft of my laptop will mean that I probably won't be very active for the next couple of days until I find myself a new one))
Yaropolk
03-02-2011, 22:04
Well, it's Yaropolk, guys.
You can't argue with solid logic like that
You can't argue with solid logic like that
You're not one to talk. [/bitter]
Askthepizzaguy
03-03-2011, 19:53
Writeup will be delayed for a bit, having long closing shift tonight and open shift tomorrow.
There's not much time left in this game, so any gameroom moderators, please encourage the next small game to begin.
Askthepizzaguy
03-04-2011, 07:46
Night Eight
They found Barney Gumble's body face down, with bullet holes through his entire body.
They looked at one another, unsure which of them was the silent killer....
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God Emperor - Barney Gumble
Barney Gumble was innocent!
Alive: 4/18
Csargo
Romanic
Slashandburn Diamondeye2
Yaropolk
Dead: 13/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie (Innocent)
Captain Blackadder- Seymour Skinner (Innocent)
God Emperor- Barney Gumble (Innocent)
Begin the Final Day. :skull:
Note: A tied vote (no lynch) will result in an automatic loss for the innocent team.
Round ends in 24 hours, on the dot.
Yaropolk
03-04-2011, 17:40
ATPG - is a vote of "no lynch" (not a tie) allowed for this round? It makes sense for us to have mafia kill off another townie - tomorrow each townie will have 50% chance of voting for scum rather than 33%.
Askthepizzaguy
03-04-2011, 19:32
ATPG - is a vote of "no lynch" (not a tie) allowed for this round? It makes sense for us to have mafia kill off another townie - tomorrow each townie will have 50% chance of voting for scum rather than 33%.
I hear you, but I'd like to wrap up this game.
12 hours remain. Tick tock, tick tock.
I think it's between Csargo and Yaropolk, hardly DE because robbie chose not to save him on Day 3, when he could have (he made a post but didn't vote, when slashandburn was on the line).
I'm going for Csargo, based on voting records. Nightbringer voted Yaropolk in the last two days. Yaropolk also has been trying to find the mafia, while Csargo has been lurking a lot.
vote: Csargo
Yaropolk
03-04-2011, 20:51
Thanks for the show of support... my vote is also on CSargo:
DE is making a case against me....but at least he's being active and trying to find mafia
robbie FOS'd Romanic, and he's also been pretty active
Yaro - admittedly bad call on Zack, but sometimes to get up to the plate and miss....i really did do a lot of work for that analysis, it wasn't all a grand scheme for 4 rounds by robbie to set zack up
Csargo - my only evidence on him is lurkiness and the fact that robbie voted for him R1 (could be distancing move as I said).
vote:csargo
Diamondeye
03-04-2011, 22:37
I'd really like to vote Yaropolk, but that would make Csargo able to tie the lynch if he wanted, so for now, I'm going with Vote:Csargo and my vote will probably stay there until the deadline.
I hope you're right, Romanic. If not... :stare:
ATPG - is a vote of "no lynch" (not a tie) allowed for this round? It makes sense for us to have mafia kill off another townie - tomorrow each townie will have 50% chance of voting for scum rather than 33%.
Do you know when the last time I heard this was? It was awhile ago, but the person who said it was scum. You should know this, Romanic, because it was you.
Do you know when the last time I heard this was? It was awhile ago, but the person who said it was scum. You should know this, Romanic, because it was you.
Yes, I know. :beam:
But it's still a valid point to push for a no-lynch here, one that I've made as Scum and as Town. I'd rather go with the voting record & thread behavior for this last vote, rather than him possibly be Scum for pointing a strategy that I believe is correct.
Yes, I know. :beam:
But it's still a valid point to push for a no-lynch here, one that I've made as Scum and as Town. I'd rather go with the voting record & thread behavior for this last vote, rather than him possibly be Scum for pointing a strategy that I believe is correct.
Yaropolk also jumped on that awful CB bandwagon, if that means anything. I doubt he is mafia, because Nightbringer was pointing the finger at Yaropolk when trying to save himself.
You, however - you started that CB bandwagon, and had been trying to get it going all game. You didn't vote for Nightbringer until the very end of day, when it was clear that he was going to be lynched anyways.
Diamondeye is worse than you, though. He never voted for Nightbringer, or at least from what I saw skimming his posts, and has been insisting that Yaropolk is scum for awhile. He voted for CB and GE (I always thought the former was innocent, although the latter was admittely a terrible call on my part), both innocent. He's also been jumping on bandwagons the entire time since he replaced ACIN (was that who he replaced?).
Csargo has been lurking hard, and he hasn't voted for any mafia that my quick skim of his posts can see (and his posts have been mostly filler text), but it's hard to take away anything from that because he hasn't posted in a week, and that was just a YouTube video.
In conclusion, my rankings from least scummy to most scummy:
Yaropolk
Romanic
Diamondeye
(No idea where to put Csargo on that list).
I also strongly encourage all to post Role PMs. The mafia have all been members of the Simpson family so far, and although Bart was innocent, it couldn't hurt to post PMs anyway - it's the last day.
I doubt we will have time to get everyone to claim, but here's my role PM.
Moe the Bartender
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Role: Moe the Bartender
Alignment: Innocent
Victory Condition: All the murderers are wiped out. (Townie team victory)
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 05:59
1 hour 46 minutes remain.
Yaropolk
03-05-2011, 06:20
I cleared out my inbox after buffyverse was over, but I'm Jeff Albertson.
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 06:24
+1000 cred for the use of his full name. That's pretty sweet.
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 08:47
Final Day
Comic Book Guy: "I call this meeting to order. Now, to discuss the very lame and very un-inspired recent deaths. I can only attribute them to a lack of enthusiasm from the game host due to lack of enthusiasm on the part of certain players. I rate them two and a half thumbs-down."
Professor Frink: "Well, unless you were born with a superfluous half-thumb or full-thumb, or had one surgically attached to you, I declare that such a thing is a scientific impossibility. Mmm-huay."
Moe the Bartender: "Hey, why ain't the Mole-man sayin' nothin'? We ain't gonna catch the scums that way. I suggest we murder him in cold blood, to catch the final murderer."
Comic Book Guy: "I am inclined to agree. Perhaps the game host also gave us a clue when he suggested that the murderer was 'silent' in the previous write-up."
Professor Frink: "Write-up? What write-up? Is there a place where we can get an omniscient-perspective narration of events? Blast! Now I have no use for my Expositron Mark IV. According to my calculations, it would have advanced this storyline with superhuman creativity. A nearly-flawless design, though it sometimes overloads and fires a WOG at inactive characters."
Moe the Bartender: "Speaking of which, the Mole-man is rather inactive. Perhaps, suspiciously so...."
Comic Book Guy: "Yes, the inactive player must go! No lurker victories! WORST.... VICTORY.... EVER!!!"
Professor Frink: "Then the democracy gods have smiled upon us, which we shall soon attempt to disprove using evidence. But for now, we must do their angry bidding. I SMITE THEE, IN THE NAME OF SCIENCE!!!"
Professor Frink fires the Expositron Mark IV at Hans Moleman, causing him to screech like a mole-man.... or a monkey-man.... or some other animal-man hybrid, just before he was VAPORIZED.
Comic Book Guy: "YES!!! Everyman saves the day. An instant classic."
Moe the Bartender: "Everyone come down to Moe's Tavern for a round of beers. Hey, I will even give you.... ten percent off."
Professor Frink: "According to my calculations, this townie win goes a long way towards restoring the balance between good and evil in the gameroom. M'hoy!"
Charles Montgomery Burns: "The Mole-Man is dead? I'm sure that's what Matt Groening would have wanted. He never thought that character should have even been in the show. Whoops, the last of the blood from that heart beat I had in 1972 has reached my brain....." *ack*
THE END
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Csargo - Hans Moleman
Hans Moleman was Mister Teeny!
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Mister Teeny was MAFIA!
Alive: 3/18
Romanic- Moe the Bartender
Diamondeye2- Professor Frink
Yaropolk- Comic Book Guy
Dead: 15/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie (Innocent)
Captain Blackadder- Seymour Skinner (Innocent)
God Emperor- Barney Gumble (Innocent)
Csargo- Mister Teeny (MAFIA)
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Excellent!
CONGRATULATIONS, WINNERS!!!!
Post-game commentary will come soon. Please feel free to discuss the game until then.
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 08:58
Interesting note, this would have be the first Simpsons/Futurama-themed game I've hosted that was won by the town faction. In every single other game, the game has been won by mafia, actor, or serial killer.
The curse of the townies....
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 09:36
Post-game Commentary, Part One
Epilogue
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Moe's Tavern
Moe the Bartender: "I've changed my mind. In honor of our victory, drinks are on the house. Drink up, my friends...."
Comic Book Guy: "I believe I will have an ale, barkeep."
Professor Frink: "I usually abstain from alcohol, but perhaps a white wine spritzer would be just the trick to help me unwind. I'm all wound up still.... HOYVIN-GLAVIN!!!"
Moe the Bartender: "So uh, Frink. What's with the incinerator gun thing you're carrying around?"
Professor Frink: "The Expositron Mark IV? Like I told you, it's a device that allows perfect narration to take place. Just point it at the people, places, or things you wish to add exposition to, and the device fires a ray which advances the story. Since all it does is cause the target to de-molecularize, it only has evil applications. But, I'm willing to sell it to fund my next project, which is creating a device which rids the world of all the Expositron Mark IV weapons I've built and then sold to the army. I call it.... the Expositron Mark V."
Moe the Bartender: "So, you just pick it up, point it, and shoot it like a gun, and it kills someone?"
Professor Frink: "A crude but very accurate description, yes."
Moe the Bartender: "Like this?"
Professor Frink: "Preci-"
*ZAP*
Comic Book Guy: "Woah! Another plot twist. I suppose that means you were the killer all along, Moe the Bartender. Or should I say..... Mister Teeny!"
Mister Teeny the Bartender: "That's correct. As an evil monkey genius, I was able to learn how to speak and impersonate ugly humans, like Moe, who regrettably hung himself in this very bar before I could get a chance to murder him myself."
Comic Book Guy: "I guess it is up to me, Jeff Albertson, the creator of Everyman, to vanquish the villain before all hope is lost. Stand back, Teeny, or else I will use my official Xena: The Warrior Princess Chakram of Light and decapitate you without mercy."
Mister Teeny: "Silly primate. I hold in my hands the Expositron Mark IV. Do you have any last words?"
Comic Book Guy: "I have spent decades alone in my mother's house reading comic books, playing computer games, and complaining about the declining quality of The Simpsons on alt.nerd.obsessive. One time in 1996, I got very close to kissing a poster of Sarah Michelle Geller, the actress who plays Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was a life well-spent."
Mister Teeny: "And now you've been outsmarted by a chimpanzee. Good job!"
*ZAP*
THE END
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Romanic - Moe the Bartender
Moe the Bartender was Mister Teeny!
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Mister Teeny was MAFIA!
Alive: 1/18
Romanic- Mister Teeny (MAFIA)
Dead: 17/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Classical_hero- Lisa Simpson (Innocent)
Johnhughthom- Ralph Wiggum (Innocent)
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (MAFIA MASTERMIND)
Zack- Clancy Wiggum (Innocent)
TheFluffyOne- Waylon Smithers (Innocent)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (MAFIA)
pevergreen- Groundskeeper Willie (Innocent)
Captain Blackadder- Seymour Skinner (Innocent)
God Emperor- Barney Gumble (Innocent)
Csargo- Hans Moleman (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Professor Frink (Innocent)
Yaropolk- Comic Book Guy (Innocent)
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YOU BUMBLING KNUCKLE-DRAGGERS!
I should have outsourced to India like all the other wealthy industrialists......
CONGRATULATIONS, MAFIA!!!!
Robbiecon- Sideshow Bob (Mafia Mastermind)
Nightbringer- Herb Powell (Mafia grunt)
Romanic- Mister Teeny (Mafia grunt)
This is the real ending, of course. The curse of the townies.... continues. :embarassed:
To be continued in part two. :book:
Nightbringer
03-05-2011, 09:40
Muhahahahahahaha!
Death is yonder
03-05-2011, 13:17
Hmm, good show mafia, and thanks to ATPG for hosting :bow:
Romanic's analysis IMO were noticeably lacking somewhat (you could call it a gut sense), but I didn't want to post for fear of derailing the thread again if I was wrong.
Oh well, what matters is that I tried somewhat overall, even though it didn't work out.
robbiecon
03-05-2011, 13:59
After being attacked Night 1, I had to get my point across that it was pointless trying to kill me. My first claim was that I was quite simpy unkillable. Which seems as though it bought me some time at least.
Then I decided to FoS Romanic, I thought this would offer two things, perhaps I wouldn't be attacked, or if Romanic was ever lynched, I'd be trusted.
Then I decided to go all out and made this post, pointing towards both of my choices:
3rd on the bandwagon, eh, Romanic?
Unvote; Vote: Romanic
We shall see what night brings.
Which is probably what got me killed really.
When I received the PM saying I got to choose the mafia, the immediate names that sprung to my head were Romanic and Renata, both of whom I've worked alongside before. But then I reconsidered, thinking, perhaps I'd be spelling it out to those who knew me, if one of use was lynched, and decided to pick someone I'd never played alongside before, Nightbringer, who did a great job, while he lived.
My votes were pretty much all over the place. I wasn't for or against Zack, I remained neutral, not wanting to save him nor kill him. Other than self-preservative, my FoS and vote upon Romanic were intended to place some sort of gap between us, if I was the first to fall, which thankfully worked out.
I also could have just claimed as Sideshow Bob in public, which would have allowed me to kill at night, but realistically, how long would I have been let live had I done that?
Grrr I can't believe you guys followed Romanic on those wagons on CB and Csargo.
Although I completely missed on DE.
Here's the Mafia QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/x9RFXYkBn6C).
We never knew that Robbie was our partner, although we were aware of the possibility that there was a 3rd mafia around. 2 mafia in a 17 players game was short. I've thought that Robbie could be with us after we failed killing him, but I was fooled by his vote against me (making the right call about me gave me the impression that he was looking for Scum) and also the post GE made, about assuming there's only 2 mafia in this game. We made a mistake to kill Robbie, but I don't think it was obvious. We had to worry about a "confirmed" innocent, and one who was starting to suspect me.
Congrats to my partners! :beam: Robbie, thanks for picking me (I'm honored), and your clues were good, I missed them. :embarassed: Nightbringer, good game. getting away from the spotlights until Day 7. Sorry that I bussed you then, it was got the greater good. :smile:
DIY - Yeah, my analysis were flawed, obviously I had to pick parts that made my case look good, but I left some. Guess that people could have realized it, but the Town was a little light on the analysis side.
Zack - sorry about your lynch. :smug2:
Thanks for a great game ATPG!! :applause:
classical_hero
03-05-2011, 17:28
What power roles did the Town have?
Askthepizzaguy
03-05-2011, 17:31
What power roles did the Town have?
Renata/Quimby was a tiebreaker voter, and Johnhughthom/Ralph Wiggum was the investigator which could see through cover roles.
The thing is, the cover roles looked a lot like their real roles, so he would have had to be paying attention to see the difference. He would have been able to tell that Marge had big feet, and that Homer had hair, but not that Moe was a monkey, because Moe is butt ugly.
I'm dead serious.
In retrospect, I should have just allowed myself to be lynched Day 2 (or whenever that first wagon was). Living only helped the mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
03-06-2011, 15:21
You always come after me, and you're always wrong. Don't you learn from past mistakes? Welps :bounce:
:laugh4:
Ah, Csargo. So dangerous as scum... such an easy target as townie.
Diamondeye
03-06-2011, 16:48
I'd really like to have had a choice when I lodged that final vote, but I knew I wasn't going to be online before the end, and a tie means certain loss.
Ah, well played scums. I should really have turned more attention to Romanic. He's always scum :stare:
Says I :curtain:
Yaropolk
03-06-2011, 17:07
DE - I'll make you a deal, next game if neither of us is mafia we lynch Romanic on D1!
Diamondeye
03-06-2011, 17:12
DE - I'll make you a deal, next game if neither of us is mafia we lynch Romanic on D1!
That means always because we're never scum, right?
Not fair! :grin:
I'm not often mafia... I wouldn't have been, if Robbie didn't pick me. Blame him!
classical_hero
03-07-2011, 05:49
Can we have some action reports.
Askthepizzaguy
03-08-2011, 21:44
Can we have some action reports.
No one had any actions besides the mafia and johnhughthom. Renata's power was just related to the vote and was automatic.
John investigated DIY, Renata, and then Zack. He got a description of their appearance, but nothing firm indicating guilt or innocence, just that they looked like who they said they were.
johnhughthom
03-09-2011, 00:56
What sort of clue would I have gotten if I had investigated one of the mafia?
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 07:11
What sort of clue would I have gotten if I had investigated one of the mafia?
Homer would have been described the way he normally looks, but I would have mentioned the color of Herb's hair in the description.
Marge would have been described the way she normally looks, but I would have mentioned her big feet.
Moe would have been described exactly the way Moe looks. There's no way to distinguish him from a monkey.
johnhughthom
03-09-2011, 17:26
Moe would have been described exactly the way Moe looks. There's no way to distinguish him from a monkey.
Couldn't you have described him as a particularly ugly monkey?
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 17:38
Couldn't you have described him as a particularly ugly monkey?
Mr Teeny isn't particularly ugly, for a monkey.
johnhughthom
03-09-2011, 17:39
Mr Teeny isn't particularly ugly, for a monkey.
I meant Moe... :laugh4:
Askthepizzaguy
03-09-2011, 17:53
I meant Moe... :laugh4:
Moe is dead. Mr. Teeny is dressed as Moe.
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