What Makes A Man, A Man?

[Strike For The South]

This has been coming up in my cricle of friends as of late

Have at it

[Samurai Waki]

Everybody will probably have a different answer. Responsibility (and owning up to those responsibilities), honor, courage, having a penis, whatever... my answer would be solidarity; I've stopped concerning myself with problems that aren't my own (or my immediate others).

[Strike For The South]

If we are going to do the one word thing to start: Integrity

[Samurai Waki]

I used to work directly with a lot of "men" that had absolutely zero integrity... so I don't know. I think it's a fanciful notion, but it doesn't seem to directly correlate to anything other than personal preferences.

[PanzerJaeger]

A penis.

[jabarto]

Not posting bad threads.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Being an adult male.

I think it's confusing to answer the question like it's asking "what makes a great man, a great man?" but just leaving out the great parts.

[HoreTore]

A penis.

I'd say an 18 year old penis, before that you are a boy.

[Kagemusha]

I'd say an 18 year old penis, before that you are a boy.

In biological sense, according to law or why is 18 years something that makes a man?:vulcan:

[The Stranger]

the right woman.

[Hosakawa Tito]

I'd say an 18 year old penis, before that you are a boy.

Hehehe, and after that you're just a dick.

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

[Viking]

A man is a human being with hair on its chest. The rest are womenfolk.

[Louis VI the Fat]

A man is a human being with hair on its chest. The rest are womenfolk.Or so says the hairless pale northpole dweller....

[Lemur]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaEC-lWSlmI

[Kagemusha]

testosterone?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

That was a good read. :bow:

I feel like I skipped being a teenager/pre-adulthood.

I was a bit slow to develop at first, at 15 the only thing on my mind was still war and football. But now mostly I work/go to Uni, I don't mess around smoking pot and I lost all interest in gaming years ago. I didn't mess around with my education or go on gap years to 'discover myself', I'll have graduated as an MA at 21 im just a few months with savings ready to move out and build my own life. Which is pretty much as young as you can be in such a situation with the education system here, most people I know my age have went to colleges (which are like a second attempt at school) to get qualifications to move on to Uni, or are just starting Uni/further education having done this. So in this respect I am very happy. :yes:

Hopefully I will be married by 23 max, another guy at work that's my age is getting married and I'm feeling left behind. Of course, at Uni nobody would marry that young, but I'm not interested in career-crazy women that don't want to have kids until they're 40. :no:

[lars573]

A penis.
Not these days.

[Megas Methuselah]

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

That's why I have such little faith in the upper and middle-class. I have trouble getting along with those boys because, essentially, they... they are just boys. If I had to take a crack at defining manhood, the best I can say is: Responsibility, experience, integrity, self-reliance and strength. Is that good enough?

[jabarto]

Hehehe, and after that you're just a dick.

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

This article makes me angry in many different ways. :shame:

[The Stranger]

This article makes me angry in many different ways. :shame:

i cant read it :S it wont scroll down for me.....

oh wait no it does load.

:O high school diploma is a milestone? :O:O:O america is such a wayward country.

i got bored halfway... any one care to summarize?

[jabarto]

i cant read it :S it wont scroll down for me.....

oh wait no it does load.

:O high school diploma is a milestone? :O:O:O america is such a wayward country.

i got bored halfway... any one care to summarize?

From what I gathered, it's just a rant about how my generation underachieves because the unsustainable dream of being married with a wife and kids in a house with a white picket fence by age 25 is finally on its way out. Typical baby-boomer garbage.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hehehe, and after that you're just a dick.

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

Strange article. They mention movies like superbad:


Domestic: $121,463,226 71.5%
+ Foreign: $48,408,493 28.5%
= Worldwide: $169,871,719

How about...Sex and the City:

Domestic: $152,647,258 36.8%
+ Foreign: $262,606,383 63.2%
= Worldwide: $415,253,641

The mention playboy...


Playboy magazine, once among the largest-circulation magazines, is cutting the circulation it guarantees advertisers to 1.5 million from 2.6 million, a 38 percent decrease.

How about Cosmo:


"Cosmo's iconic brand continues to grow: 18 million readers and over 5 million uniques on our website. And after a 12 month period of delivering over 3 million copies a month, we decided the time was right to increase our rate base."


Why is this critique focused on men specifically :laugh4:

Adulthood is, as they say, graduating getting a job and being responsible for yourself. It's really a bare minimum thing. It's bizarre that they put marriage and children in there as part of the requirements for being an adult :inquisitive:

Is the conclusion of the article that men have identity conflict and are working out who they are and what they want in their 20's, instead of getting married after college and settling down with a stay at home wife because that was what you did? I mean, don't get me wrong I dislike immature people as much as the next person, but the framing of the article is wonky, both the gender focus and the historical perspective.

Anyway, biased and poorly thought out sociological theorizing with a whiny tone is adolescent.

edit, also:

WWW.TWILIGHTMOMS.COM

http://i53.tinypic.com/2zr3onm.jpg

[Rhyfelwyr]

Is the conclusion of the article that men have identity conflict and are working out who they are and what they want in their 20's, instead of getting married after college and settling down with a stay at home wife because that was what you did?

Well yes, that is much more productive than doing what most of my friends have done since leaving school, which is to either stay or home or be funded by their parents while they share places to rent, and spend most of their time on drinking/drugs and playing their xbox, with no job or qualifications and living off a mix of the state/their parents.

That is not working out who you are, its a waste of time.

Of course, that's still far less bad than the richer ones that go exploring the world to 'discover themselves'.

Heh, I used to be depressed because the above types seemed more mature than me, but now I'll be able to be financially independent and earning decent money at 21.

[Beirut]

Put in a hard day's work, take responsibility for your actions, feed your kids and make sure they are safe, shtumpf the wife into unconsciousness, then go downstairs, pop a beer, sit on the sofa and ponder the glories of the universe while the rest of the house sleeps.

:sunny:

[Strike For The South]

A penis.

Surley no, I see plenty of people with those but very few men

[Strike For The South]

Hehehe, and after that you're just a dick.

Here's an article in the WSJ ya might find interesting Strike. Where have the Good Men Gone? (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146321725889448.html?mod=WSJ_hps_RIGHTTopCarousel_1)

Gender Bias much?

I apperciate the effort Hosa but I really don't care what some bull dyke with an agenda, thinks a man is

I want to know what YOU think

[ajaxfetish]

A Y Chromosome plays a role.

Ajax

[Hosakawa Tito]

Gender Bias much?

I apperciate the effort Hosa but I really don't care what some bull dyke with an agenda, thinks a man is

I want to know what YOU think

Hehehe, yeah sometimes the truth can be painful. Right now I haven't the time to share mine, I have to go to work. I'll get back to ya.

[The Stranger]

Well yes, that is much more productive than doing what most of my friends have done since leaving school, which is to either stay or home or be funded by their parents while they share places to rent, and spend most of their time on drinking/drugs and playing their xbox, with no job or qualifications and living off a mix of the state/their parents.

That is not working out who you are, its a waste of time.

Of course, that's still far less bad than the richer ones that go exploring the world to 'discover themselves'.

Heh, I used to be depressed because the above types seemed more mature than me, but now I'll be able to be financially independent and earning decent money at 21.

traveling is awesome. i love it. this is just anti-traveling bs!!!! i have been financially independent since 18 and ive travelled parts of the world, its very good experience and imo worth every penny you spend on it. tbh its not that expensive at all, unless you drink all day and do stupid stuff (breaking things, or breaking yourself) its about as expensive as living in europe or america.

exploring the world and understanding what goes on around you is every bit part of a real man as settling down and caring for your loved ones is.

[Rahwana]

A Y Chromosome plays a role.

Ajax

Turner Syndrome (http://turners.nichd.nih.gov/)
if you count this, someone's twin sister is actually a male in genetic sense :grin: making them twin brothers

[Megas Methuselah]

If I beat up a woman, do I become more manly?

[The Stranger]

depends on the size of the woman.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I looked up 'Manly' in the dictionary, and it said 'NOT ANY OF YOU GIRLS'.


Here's what a real man looks like, a self portrait of me which I use as my profile picture on online dating sites:


https://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6705/hommew.jpg

[Lemur]

Here's what a real man looks like, a self portrait of me which I use as my profile picture on online dating sites:
HotStud4U, we meet again. Now I feel very silly indeed for sending you those nudes of myself ...

[PanzerJaeger]

I looked up 'Manly' in the dictionary, and it said 'NOT ANY OF YOU GIRLS'.


Here's what a real man looks like, a self portrait of me which I use as my profile picture on online dating sites:


https://img594.imageshack.us/img594/6705/hommew.jpg

He looks like he's holding his junk hostage.

[lars573]

Gimme 10 grand or the beans and frank get it! :clown:

[Louis VI the Fat]

HotStud4U, we meet again. Now I feel very silly indeed for sending you those nudes of myself ...I've always wondered whether it was you, PromiscuousProsimian69.


As for your nude pics...I suppose it, erm...it gets cold up in Wisconsin eh...yeah, real cold... :wink3:

[Major Robert Dump]

People with discolored thighs should not pose spread eagle. Other than that, I am fascinated with this photo

[Ronin]

If we are going to do the one word thing to start: Integrity

Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

[PanzerJaeger]

I found your source Louis.

So much yes.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/panzerjaeger/iherdsomething3.jpghttps://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/panzerjaeger/iherdsomething2.jpg

[drone]

Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

Dude.

[Megas Methuselah]

Didn't need to see any of that.

[Furunculus]

A man is a human being with hair on its chest. The rest are womenfolk......

..........to be raped and pillaged, Jaahhaaaa!

:D


Didn't need to see any of that.


whoa, i'm with you brother. :(

[Sigurd]

I was going to be serious and say that the article has it right. But you guys... just... speechless. :beam:

[The Stranger]

I found your source Louis.

So much yes.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/panzerjaeger/iherdsomething3.jpghttps://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/panzerjaeger/iherdsomething2.jpg

am i the only one to find this odd? why does PJ have naked pics of Louis?!?!?! :inquisitive:

[Vuk]

worst...thread...ever...

[drone]

am i the only one to find this odd? why does PJ have naked pics of Louis?!?!?! :inquisitive:
Isn't it obvious? He has hacked Strike's computer. :yes:

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Honor, Being Humble, honest, respectful. Being bold.

[The Stranger]

Isn't it obvious? He has hacked Strike's computer. :yes:

that just changes the question a bit.

am i the only one to find this odd? why does Strike have naked pics of Louis?!?!?! :inquisitive:

[Vuk]

that just changes the question a bit.

am i the only one to find this odd? why does Strike have naked pics of Louis?!?!?! :inquisitive

lol, no one told you? You see, they and Lemur...I will let them explain it...

[Don Corleone]

To the original question.... a mindless, slavish devotion to :daisy: erh, honey pots.

https://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8800/daphnestone.jpg (https://img576.imageshack.us/i/daphnestone.jpg/)

[Strike For The South]

To the original question.... a mindless, slavish devotion to :daisy: erh, honey pots.

I don't think manhood should be directly tied to womanhood, now certainly good qualites in a man are good qualites in a woman.

However, I am trying to find my place in the world and I feel like I don't know what that place is

If you asked my father or grandfathers it would be quite simply to break your back for the family

If you asked my contemperaries it would be a mix of hedonism and narcassism only matched by there cowardice and ability to whine

And so I continue to wander...

[The Stranger]

To the original question.... a mindless, slavish devotion to :daisy: erh, honey pots.

https://img576.imageshack.us/img576/8800/daphnestone.jpg (https://img576.imageshack.us/i/daphnestone.jpg/)

i dont know which photo i find more scary. Don with his Wife... or a Naked Louis...

[Banquo's Ghost]

*frantically leafs through rulebook for some reason, however tenuous, to close this thread, ban everyone who posted including myself and charge my therapist's bills to TosaInu*

[Ronin]

*frantically leafs through rulebook for some reason, however tenuous, to close this thread, ban everyone who posted including myself and charge my therapist's bills to TosaInu*


screw the rulebook....I´d back a direct dictatorial decision as long as it makes IT go away!

[The Stranger]

if there ever was a time to enforce martial law :idea:

[Vuk]

screw the rulebook....I´d back a direct dictatorial decision as long as it makes IT go away!

lol, while I agree that the thread is disgusting, you really don't have to visit it if you find it THAT offensive. :P

[Louis VI the Fat]

RONIN KEEPS COMING BACK FOR DON'S HOT DOMINATRIX

[al Roumi]

ahem, back to the original question...

I asked my girlfriend what makes a man a man and she said "a certain amount of stupidity" ??? :huh:

[Hosakawa Tito]

I don't think manhood should be directly tied to womanhood, now certainly good qualites in a man are good qualites in a woman.

However, I am trying to find my place in the world and I feel like I don't know what that place is

If you asked my father or grandfathers it would be quite simply to break your back for the family

If you asked my contemperaries it would be a mix of hedonism and narcassism only matched by there cowardice and ability to whine

And so I continue to wander...

Ya seem to have a good head on your shoulders, and those that raised you certainly taught you how to think. A person can't control how they feel, but they can control how they think. Follow your heart and don't worry that you may not know what you want to do or what your purpose in life may be right off. Some people may know what that purpose is right from the start, but most of us have to try a few things first. Stick to your values and live them. Your reputation precedes you, manage it wisely.

[Beirut]

*frantically leafs through rulebook for some reason, however tenuous, to close this thread, ban everyone who posted including myself and charge my therapist's bills to TosaInu*

I suggest alcohol. It makes it all easier to accept. :sunny: