A new hero for all bullied kids

[Reenk Roink]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdVR5buM5hs

HOLY **** :2thumbsup:

[edyzmedieval]

Saw the video earlier, I found the thrashing a bit shocking but he kinda sort of deserved it.

The skinny kid has a dislocated knee but otherwise he's fine.

[Louis VI the Fat]

The skinny kid has a dislocated knee but otherwise he's fine.Unless there's some backstory to all of this, I'd say the skinny bully looks just fine precisely because he's got a dislocated knee. :yes:

[Secura]

Saw this video doing the rounds on Facebook, and my first thought was "oh god, not another happy-slapping video", but then I saw the target of their abuse react and wow... to say that the retribution was deserved would be an understatement.

That's not to say that I condone violence, but having been through the 'diplomatic' process of dealing with bullies way back in high school (girls can be far worse than boys, trust me), I know that it isn't always the best approach and sometimes you just have to stand up for yourself without getting adults involved.

Unfortunately, it seems the school of the bullied child reacted in the worst possible manner and suspended him rather than the actual bully; this is exactly what happened to me too, principally because she had more marks on her than I had on me. ¬_¬


Unless there's some backstory to all of this, I'd say the skinny bully looks just fine precisely because he's got a dislocated knee. :yes:

The backstory is that the bullied kid had basically been picked on through the entire course of his high school life; he finally snapped during the filming of that video.

[Monk]

Youtube has been nuking a lot of videos of this incident and will probably continue to do so, so grab a look while you can!

Relevant to the conversation: http://vimeo.com/21021823

[edyzmedieval]

Unless there's some backstory to all of this, I'd say the skinny bully looks just fine precisely because he's got a dislocated knee. :yes:

If there is a backstory, then I'm sorry but it's justified. Getting bullied day in and day out, the guy deserved his dislocated knee.

[Reenk Roink]

Unfortunately, it seems the school of the bullied child reacted in the worst possible manner and suspended him rather than the actual bully; this is exactly what happened to me too, principally because she had more marks on her than I had on me. ¬_¬

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: you were beating up kids in school? I guess that makes me unhardcore, I never got into a fight at school. I never hated on people and kids didn't hate on me. :shrug: I did fight a lot playing hockey though, but that's a part of the game.

I can understand them having the bullied kid suspended, they have those rules where anyone who fights gets suspended. That being said, first of all, the scrawny kid clearly instigated, second, there was apparently a history of this, and thirdly, that big guy didn't even seem to want to fight. He controlled himself for quite a bit. They should at least hit that scrawny kid with a harder suspension.

From what I've seen from his fb,he seems like a total jerk too. Can't post them here, but the guy is hoping girls get raped and dresses like a complete imbecile.

[Centurion1]

ah it did my heart good. i was never bullied (too big) but i saw it happen and it always bothers me. i dont like when, for lack of a better word, odd kids are bothered for no reason. I've been in a couple of fights and almost always under those layers of fat theres alot more strength, especially at that age.

[Secura]

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: you were beating up kids in school? I guess that makes me unhardcore, I never got into a fight at school. I never hated on people and kids didn't hate on me. :shrug: I did fight a lot playing hockey though, but that's a part of the game.

I wasn't at first, "I'm a lover, not a fighter" and all that; I tried all the more diplomatic means of dealing with bullies, everything from just giving them what they wanted to getting teaching staff involved, and it never amounted to anything because the girls would just go back to their routine once the 'heat' had settled down.

Eventually, I grew tired of the constant harassment and snapped... badly. I was suspended for three days, but honestly, it was worth it; I think it did wonders for both my self-respect and the respect I got from others, including my tormentors. They didn't hassle me again, that much can be said. :laugh4:

I don't advocate violence but sometimes there's no alternative; I wasn't going to go on in a living hell, so I dealt with it. :3

[caravel]

I bet that felt good for chubby lad - good for him. Nice to see the skinny little git get his just deserts...

[A Nerd]

Bullies smell! All of them compensate for low self-asteem by picking on someone whom they perceive as weaker.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Found the video.

Bwhahahahaha. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

:2thumbsup: to the fat kid!

[Vuk]

lol, too bad he didn't break a few of his bones while he was at it. :P That would end up being the last time he ever bullied anyone! :P

[TinCow]

I wasn't at first, "I'm a lover, not a fighter" and all that; I tried all the more diplomatic means of dealing with bullies, everything from just giving them what they wanted to getting teaching staff involved, and it never amounted to anything because the girls would just go back to their routine once the 'heat' had settled down.

Eventually, I grew tired of the constant harassment and snapped... badly. I was suspended for three days, but honestly, it was worth it; I think it did wonders for both my self-respect and the respect I got from others, including my tormentors. They didn't hassle me again, that much can be said. :laugh4:

I don't advocate violence but sometimes there's no alternative; I wasn't going to go on in a living hell, so I dealt with it. :3

Something similar happened to me. There was an older kid who used to pick on me on the bus pretty regularly when I was in about 4th-5th grade. One day I just snapped and started kicking him in the face when he came at me, using the seats as leverage to get some good momentum. He wasn't hurt too badly and no one got in trouble, but he stopped picking on me after that and I gained a lot of self esteem from the incident. When I told my mother, she was actually proud of me.

[Veho Nex]

Unfortunately, it seems the school of the bullied child reacted in the worst possible manner and suspended him rather than the actual bully; this is exactly what happened to me too, principally because she had more marks on her than I had on me.

That happened to me a lot in middle school. Being the tallest and by far strongest kid in my class a lot of the skinnier weaker ones would pick fights with me to prove something. I still hold the record for longest time spent on suspension without expulsion, just because the principal walked by when i was being picked on once.

One time i got 3 weeks in-house because i got into a scrap with a bunch of 6th graders. 3 of them had bloody noses and i threw one into the lockers. They all got 2 day suspensions. Kind of a load of BS if you ask me.

More often than not its the little kids who are the bullies, but that doesnt show in movies about school yard life. They always show the bigger kids as the harasser instead of the harassed.

[Rhyfelwyr]

More often than not its the little kids who are the bullies, but that doesnt show in movies about school yard life. They always show the bigger kids as the harasser instead of the harassed.

True. The only person to ever try to bully me was one of the popular kids that got upset when I was showing him up at football (soccer). He must have been about 5'5", so he suffered from "wee man syndrome" as we call it.

He wasn't really bullying me he just kept trying to hack me, so I just hacked him back, wasn't difficult when he was so small. In the end it worked out pretty well for me, after a football tournament all the little kids kept coming up to me and telling me how amazing at football I was.

It was pretty funny because how good you are at football is pretty much tied to how popular you are. That's why I think the 'bully' didn't like me making him look bad, he had always been one of the most popular ones and I wasn't really unpopular/geeky/whatever, more living in my own little world lol.

In the end we forgot about it pretty well and I got on fine with him, I don't hold grudges. :shrug:

[Veho Nex]

Yeah im good friends with one of the kids I beat up with, he was actually about the same size as me so it was an even fight. During middle school he was a snob but after we spent a year in the same classes during highschool we became friends.

[Samurai Waki]

I had an odd reversal of fortunes, I was one of the bigger kids during Elementary/Middle School then when Highschool struck I was just around average. I never really got bullied as a kid, and by the time I was in Highschool I didn't have to worry about it. I know bullying happens on a large scale in Highschool, but I was usually acquainted with most of the big tough guys so most bullies knew I was off limits.

[johnhughthom]

Looking back at my school days I guess I did some bullying, it was never physical but it certainly wasn't pleasant. There's one guy in particular I would love to apologise to because I was a complete ***** to him just because he was a little odd. The stupid thing is he was the sort of person I would rather be friendly with now. What makes it worse is I was sort of bullied myself early in my high school days as I went to a grammar school and was from the wrong side of the tracks. It didn't last long as I "took action", but I should have realised how my actions would have affected people. It pretty much was just to look big in front of friends, I never wanted to actually hurt anybody, but the emotional trauma never entered my head. I was a very immature teenager.

[Reenk Roink]

Looking back at my school days I guess I did some bullying, it was never physical but it certainly wasn't pleasant. There's one guy in particular I would love to apologise to because I was a complete ***** to him just because he was a little odd. The stupid thing is he was the sort of person I would rather be friendly with now. What makes it worse is I was sort of bullied myself early in my high school days as I went to a grammar school and was from the wrong side of the tracks. It didn't last long as I "took action", but I should have realised how my actions would have affected people. It pretty much was just to look big in front of friends, I never wanted to actually hurt anybody, but the emotional trauma never entered my head. I was a very immature teenager.

It's OK john, your kneecap should heal if you stay off of it for a couple of weeks.

[Beskar]

That happened to me a lot in middle school. Being the tallest and by far strongest kid in my class a lot of the skinnier weaker ones would pick fights with me to prove something.

I got that. A lot.

I'm 6 foot 7, so it was effectively everyone.

[johnhughthom]

Here's the ultimate way to deal with a bully:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80761925/

[Beskar]

Here's the ultimate way to deal with a bully:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80761925/

That is actually illegal and gets you in big trouble for "Sexual Harrassment". I know of an incident where some one was being bullied so they did something similar to their tormentor (grabbed the tormentors pants, yanked them down, then pointed and laughed). They got into real major trouble with the school over it and were excluded for like 2 weeks.

[Megas Methuselah]

Looking back at my school days I guess I did some bullying, it was never physical but it certainly wasn't pleasant. There's one guy in particular I would love to apologise to because I was a complete ***** to him just because he was a little odd. The stupid thing is he was the sort of person I would rather be friendly with now. What makes it worse is I was sort of bullied myself early in my high school days as I went to a grammar school and was from the wrong side of the tracks. It didn't last long as I "took action", but I should have realised how my actions would have affected people. It pretty much was just to look big in front of friends, I never wanted to actually hurt anybody, but the emotional trauma never entered my head. I was a very immature teenager.

I wasn't a bully, but I was certainly an a-hole. I began to put an end to that behaviour in grade 12, but even then, it wasn't quite so. In some ways, I was mature, whilst in other ways, I was not.

Props to the bullied kid, though. When he picked up his tormentor and threw him to the ground, I was like, "Yeah, this is how we do it in mah 'hood!" Good stuff.

[Samurai Waki]

"Yeah, this is how we do it in mah 'hood!" Good stuff.

I always had the strange idea that your hood was more severe on "bullies" as I recall it was NEVER a good idea to pick on Natives, or you'd get about twenty more of their friend's ready to do more than throw you to the ground... :inquisitive: :laugh4:

[Strike For The South]

My only complaint is that the kid stopped

[Askthepizzaguy]

When I was a very small child, very young, I was.... well, beyond wimpy. I was a bookworm, and I had a big sensitive heart that always made me such an easy target. When I was about.... I'd say second grade, I'd get upset when people would pull up dandelions, because I knew from experience that the dandelions died when you picked them like that. To say I wouldn't hurt a fly was an understatement. My parents got it in my head that I was not to raise my fists at people, and to this day I am still very much a pacifist.

Anyway, until about 7th grade, every bully in school knew I was an easy mark because I would take it, unresponsive, and not taunt back or hit back. But around about 7th grade, I remember it clearly, there was a day when most of the staff and students went on a field trip. There were only a few teachers and students left, and the teachers were not paying much attention. Most of us were in the computer lab, goofing off, playing games. So on the computer game, I kept getting vile messages from one of the other students, who of course was also sending these messages to the rest of the class; the usual stuff, vulgarities describing my mother, insults directed at me personally, and so on and so forth. As usual, I just ignored this stuff, and after "class" I left to go to one of the other classrooms to get my things and to cool off. But, I found the exits to the room were blocked off by this bully and his buddies. They had trapped me in the room with no teachers around, and the bully started taunting me, and I told him to leave me alone.

He asked me if I was going to cry, and I said no. He then decided I was going to fight him, and so everyone started shouting "fight! fight! fight!", which was awesome because there were only like 15 of them and one of me, because I didn't have ANY friends to back me up. I tried to leave the room but his friends wouldn't let me through, and he got up in my face and started pushing me around. It was this moment I was dreading the most, because my options were to stay there and let him shove me around, empty the contents of my bookbag on the floor, and otherwise make me miserable, or I'd have to actually fight the guy, and seeing as I've never had a violent act in my life, I knew I wouldn't exactly be good at it. This kid was also purportedly taking karate classes, and I'm sure that would have been some advantage. He was also more into sports than I was, so a little athleticism goes a long way.

But, at that moment, I wasn't really afraid of what he was going to do to me, or what his friends were going to do to me. They were going to do rotten things to me now, and probably later on as well. Seeing as I put up with it every day, there was no way it could get worse; they had nothing left to threaten me with. If they're going to make my life miserable anyway, no matter what I do, and I can't escape, I figured I had no reason to fear. And, I also felt, it wasn't morally right to allow someone to make me feel so miserable without bothering to defend myself. It was actually wrong to do nothing, because that only encourages more of the same.

So I wasn't afraid, and I was pretty royally pissed as well. What's more, I saw that my tormentor was extremely vulnerable, as he had his badass reputation on the line, and all his friends were watching. If he didn't beat the living pulp out of me, and for no apparent reason, he would appear weak in front of his buddies. He had so much to lose, and I had nothing to lose. He had made a terrible mistake, and although he was in a cocky, joyous mood, I was in a rather grim, annoyed mood. One is more advantageous than the other in this situation, as he had his guard completely down, thinking I'd be unable or unwilling to fight back.

After shoving me a few times, and checking his friend's reaction, I saw my moment. I knew I wouldn't be able to throw a decent punch, but, I moved forward as quickly as I could, and planted both palms squarely into his chest. He went flying backwards, smashed into a group of his friends, and ended up sprawled on the ground looking up at the ceiling.

Several years' worth of frustration culminated to that moment, and although a teacher arrived to break up the fight, as they dragged us both down the hall and to the principal's office, he was rather quiet, and I unleashed a rather loud torrent of expletives, explaining that if he ever came near me or looked at me the wrong way again, I would finish what he started. In the principal's office, I looked him straight in the eye as he looked at the ground, and explained that I was done taking his bull, and that I would make sure he had a bloodied nose and broken teeth the next time he laid a hand on me.

To my recollection, no one ever laid a hand on me again, even into high school. I was fortunate, though, that I did not live in a drug/gang-filled area where weapons at school are the norm. There's not a whole lot one unarmed kid can do against that, but even so.... if they were going to hurt me no matter what I did, I opted to leave at least one of them bloodied and confidence shaken, rather than not.

I still think it was the right choice, even if it wasn't much of a choice. I would rather recommend getting some friends to help one watch your back, and trying to avoid trouble in the first place. As nice as my story ended, it could have had an unfortunate ending. It's not like I could have taken all of his friends at once, but I am fairly confident after that encounter, his bark was worse than his bite. I *might* have been able to finish that fight with him more bloodied than me.

"Karate" indeed.

[Andres]

These stories always end in the same way, don't they?

Bullies only stop once the victim finally finds the courage to give them a good beating.

It was no different with me. Just like Pizza, I was from the "couldn't hurt a fly" type. In primary school (from 6-12 years), I was a giant (but I kinda stopped growing in secondary school, where I became of average lentgh after a year or two). I always was the tallest kid in class during that period. And the strongest. And the smartest, if I may proudly add :smug:

And yes, there were two other kids who bullied everybody else and I, the friendly giant, was the usual target. Others got bullied by them too, but I was most frequently bullied. And nobody had the guts to stand up against them.

Until one day, after a couple of years of bullying, I simply had enough of it, I snapped and I punched them both straight in the face and then literally threw them away.

The funny thing is, I never had done that before, not because I was afraid of the bullies (I was a full head taller than them), but because I was afraid I would... hurt them too much :wall:

Anyway, both their faces showed the marks of my punches for more than a week (:smug:). Of course, I got punished by the school authorities because of it (thankfully, this was before the age of hysterical parents who take a lawyer if somebody dares to ruin the haircut of their beloved, holy children who never do something wrong), but one teacher who had seen it all, took me apart after it had happened and you know what he said? He said to me that he had never understood why I had taken that **** for so long and that he was glad I finally stood up for myself :2thumbsup: Indeed, my teacher was proud of me. My parents not so much, but they weren't exactly angry at me because of it. I think they understood, but didn't want to encourage such behaviour.

In secondary school (12-18 year) there was this one kid who bullied everybody. He claimed he had a black belt in karate :rolleyes:

One day, he made the mistake to pick on me. Of course, I had learned my lesson in primary school. One unexpected punch on the side of his head and he simply went down. It happened outside of school. He never tried to bully me again, but he kept bullying others and was eventually expelled.

[Beirut]

Can't find the video.

Oh well...

[Andres]

Looking back at my school days I guess I did some bullying, it was never physical but it certainly wasn't pleasant. There's one guy in particular I would love to apologise to because I was a complete ***** to him just because he was a little odd.

Even though I finally stood up for myself, I never, ever want to see those two boys who bullied me again. They made my life in primary school miserable for years and they did ruin a substantial part of my childhood.

If one of these two ever rings at my door to offer an apology, then a few more punches and kicks in their groin would be the reward. I usually don't hold grudges, but I can't bring myself to forgiving those two jerks.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Even though I finally stood up for myself, I never, ever want to see those two boys who bullied me again. They made my life in primary school miserable for years and they did ruin a substantial part of my childhood.

If one of these two ever rings at my door to offer an apology, then a few more punches and kicks in their groin would be the reward. I usually don't hold grudges, but I can't bring myself to forgiving those two jerks.

Forgiving certain people is very hard. Some folks, even if they grow up, you can't forget who they once were. I usually encourage healing and forgiveness, but I certainly understand this sentiment here.

BTW, what is it with these kids all claiming to know karate?

[Louis VI the Fat]

In school I used to bully my teachers.* Then one day, one of them beat me up, right in front of class too. I never did bully him again.

Coward did sneak attack me from behind. Tsk...


* Well only until the age of fifteen. :embarassed:
Only the authoritarian ones, never the weak gentle ones! Then I moved on to the police, the army, and the government. Weaklings kiss up and kick downwards. It should be the reverse. Kick whatever is stronger, and protect what is weaker.


Even though I finally stood up for myself, I never, ever want to see those two boys who bullied me again. They made my life in primary school miserable for years and they did ruin a substantial part of my childhood.

If one of these two ever rings at my door to offer an apology, then a few more punches and kicks in their groin would be the reward. I usually don't hold grudges, but I can't bring myself to forgiving those two jerks.Three big kids once beat up my brother, while one of them was pinning me down. If I ever see them again, I will kill them.

There's something silly about that, I suppose, considering that I think I was thirteen, and these guys probably fourteen. In general I would think it bizarre to punish adults for what they did when they were eightteen, never mind fourteen, but still...if given the option and he guarantee I'd get away with it, I might really do kill them.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Can't find the video.

Oh well...YouTube can take down all the English versions of the video, but they can't keep up with the French. :knight:

If a video is banned, always try searching for it in French too, or any other language besides English. The internet is a vast place:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWwODk8mjY8

[Askthepizzaguy]

The part where the kid just took the first punch, basically unfazed, is fairly epic.

"This is the part where you run away, little boy..."

[Beskar]

The one in red was clearly going to win that fight.

[Centurion1]

i never really understood bullying having grown a relatively popular and large kid, especially after a few typical first days of school confrontations (i moved alot so went to quite a few different schools). But my current girlfriend who is now quite attractive in all honesty told me she was bullied horribly in middle school i didnt believe it (being the gorgeous korean-croatian she is). Turns out she had an awkward phase which i suppose is believable and that one kid in particular tormented her ceaselessly and while i finally pried this out of her i can see the mental scars and psychological damage he did to her. it enrages me even to think of it (i don't want to get into details but it is very sad). I got the name of the kid from her and lo and behold turns out (thank you facebook for simplifying stalking) he goes to the same major state university as one of my best friends.

Now this is rather shameful but i went to visit my friend at university for a few weeks and once again with the joy of facebook saw a party he would be attending. I along with my friend (had no idea of my intentions) went to said party. When i was there i obviously did not go up to the kid and say you bullied k****. No it was much more refined. I took my glasses which i never wear out because they attract @$$ hole tough guys like flies to honey and put them on. Then i went up to him and spilt my beverage on him. he did not take this in stride and began to get in my face. blessing god that he obviously hadnt mellowed out since 7th grade i then proceeded to use 9 years of boxing to give him a very painful lesson in why public humiliation is wrong. After the confrontation the house in which there was a party had a broken ping pong table. I was lucky that no one seemed to care about the place and that it wasnt a bar or something with a bouncer or that his friends wanted to back him up (if he in fact had any)

the greatest reward was that my friend has a droid and the presence of mind to record the whole thing. while my girl didnt thank me (thought it was wrong) i could tell that she felt a little better about the whole experience to be honest.

The negatives were that i fractured two fingers and had to explain to rotc how that happened (hand got trapped in a car door...... it worked.) and i was out of the dollar bill i dropped on his body to get to say "clean yourself up"

was it wrong of me for what i did? probably but in the end he brought it upon himself really by continuing the conflict. i don't feel bad at all if you knew what he had been subjecting this poor girl too and what she then put herself through; its just horrible.

[Askthepizzaguy]

was it wrong of me for what i did?

Honest answer: maybe. You were seeking to avenge someone and basically instigated the whole thing. I'd place that under a different category from self-defense.

I'm not scolding you, but it could also have ended badly. What if one of his friends had a weapon and used it on you? Would it have been worth it?

I certainly understand where you're coming from though. Sometimes I'd entertain thoughts of inflicting harm on those who have harmed me, by starting a conflict of my own but.... it's just not me, I guess. You also have to figure, at my age, there would likely be legal repercussions, and it's just not worth it. Whether they have changed or not, is it worth it to cause even more senseless violence, and place myself in unnecessary risk? I'd settle on "no", just my take.

Buzz Killington, eat your heart out.

[Centurion1]

yeah i agree with that but you also don't know exactly what he did. I mean it makes me want to cry for how it affected her it is just terrible. What if someone had a weapon at some other house party and decided to use it on me in a similar situation. You can throw that one around but it didn't happen and was very unlikely to happen (we are talking a decent university here)

I'm far from saying it was self defense. It was obviously a planned attack though he didn't know it. The thing is at the end of the day I only did so much to provoke him, my incapciatated logic at the time being if he doesn't try to fight me after i "accidentally" spill the drink on him he probably changed and doesn't deserve it that much. Imagine how big of a **** you have to be to try to fight somebody who accidentally spills their drink on you in a crowded jostling house party.

[Askthepizzaguy]

yeah i agree with that but you also don't know exactly what he did.

It's true enough, and I trust that you're the sort of person who understands right from wrong enough to make a sound judgment on how much of a jerk this guy was and how much he deserved it.

That's not really my point; he could be scum of the earth... the trouble with vigilantism is that it can cross the line into fighting crime with crime. Example, last night some jerk ordered about a hundred dollars worth of pizza, side items, sodas, etc, late at night right before we were going to close the store. It was an obvious prank, but we followed procedure and had to deliver on the off-chance it was legitimate.

(Who orders 5 italian sausage pizzas and 4 orders of breadsticks and 2 of the same pasta and three of the same sodas? That's not even creative.)

In case it was a robbery attempt, we sent two drivers, went to the house, was told it was the wrong address, called their number, got sent to a different house, it was also a place that did not order. So we knew it was a prank for certain and went back to the store. 2 people got woken up very late at night, and the store is out a lot of ingredients, and our drivers went home late. Obviously the pranksters are jerks, dumb ones in fact, because they used their actual number to call us from. It would be VERY easy to harass them back. I could easily post their telephone number on the internets and cause them a bunch of headaches in response. But is that the sort of thing I should do? Pretty sure I should not.

Do they deserve it? Of course they do. But what does this accomplish? Are these the sorts of people who would learn a lesson from it? Would they suddenly become nice people? Would the store recover the money it lost, would the driver's time come back? No.

Nothing is served. I find that is usually the case with revenge. The exceptions might be when someone is actively hurting you, you can hurt them back as defense/disincentive to continue, maybe even to stop them from hurting others again. But, to hunt them down, chase them down, assault them.... that gets into a gray area morally and a dangerous zone legally.


What if someone had a weapon at some other house party and decided to use it on me in a similar situation.

I am not sure I follow you here. How similar? You starting a confrontation? In that case it is a same situation, not a similar one.

If you didn't start a confrontation, it would be a very dissimilar situation, not really comparable. Someone using a weapon on you for no reason is harder to predict and avoid, and also has little to do with this particular predicament.

As for your other comments, I'd tend to agree he hasn't changed for the better. That said, my gut tells me you should avoid looking for trouble, because even if you feel you are in the right, you could enter a situation where you are outmatched and, well.... jerks who hurt people for no reason aren't known for their mercy. You might walk away after you've made your point, but they could put you in a hospital. Be very careful, you're a nice person and I'd prefer not to trade you for showing some jerk that he is a jerk. It's not worth the trade.

[Whacker]

I'd love to shake the bigger kid's hand some day. Bravo for standing up to that nasty little **** like he did. I'll end up doing the same with my kids that my parents did with me, which is basically stand up for yourself and defend yourself if needed, and our parents will always support us 100%. Big kid should have pile-drove that little *******'s face into the ground after the first punch he threw.

[Centurion1]

jerk is a kind word. trust me this went beyond mere bullying. it was disgusting. like think of the girl in question being aable to write a book about her experiences later that would shame all those other anti bullying books.

the guy was a scumbag and if what i did was wrong then it was wrong. but I would probably do it again he disgusts me so much.

on a more on topic subject that big kid moved really really fast....... and the way the skinny kid tried to get into some form of stance at the beginning...... lol.

[Motep]

Ah...bullying. One bullied to stand up, and the bully usually stops. I've straws to put and the limit has been pushed many a time. Not until the first time did I realize that I would actually enjoy fighting.
Soo....bully one: verbal confrontation, he lunged, was fat, kept me down for about twenty seconds until I gathered my wits (he was punched me in the face a couple of times, and the blows to the nose sucked, but on the whole it was not painful) and kicked him off of me (there was a gap between us; enough for a leg). He went back, and knocked his noggin off of a table. Lights out.
Bully Two: He was bigger than me ... by alot. I was 5'4", he was about 6'. He also weighed almost twice as much as I did (I was 110 at the time). He was being his normal :daisy: self, and things were getting pretty heated. I would normally have let things slide, but I was irate that day. Anyways, he threatened violence and I punched him in the eye. Well....he grabbed me by the collar and pulled, ripping my shirt as I lunged backwards. I got tangled in the ripped shirt, and he got me to the ground. He punched me a few times, and I wormed myself into a position where I could kick him in the groin. He let go of me, and I got up, but the gym teacher stepped up, and I never got to finish that one.
Bully Three: This was not much of a fight. He was pushing me around, and I was not letting him. He punched me in the face, and then I punched him in the face, and it was pretty much over as there was a teacher nearby.
Bully Four: Being a rude :daisy:. I punched him in the face after a while, and since we were in a stairwell....well...he fell as hit his heat. He flailed about with his legs, clipped me, knocked me off balance, and I fell and hit my head. Friends kept us apart after that one.
Bully Five: Location, location, location. I was standing near a column on my friend's porch. His other friend, who had been a pain in my ass for a long time, and I were having a bit of an altercation. About what? I dont recall. Anyways, he lunged to grab me, and I stepped aside and tripped him. I cannot believe it worked. That stuff never works. Anyways, he tripped over my sweeping leg and smashed his face into the column. Best thing ever.
Bully Six: Sometimes, all their talk is not for show. He was messing with my friend, so I stood up for him. Ummm....I got my ass handed to me, and it was pretty fast. I am a bleeder, and I can take groin shots pretty well, I guess. After a while of me getting right back up after a devastating blow, he just walked away.
Not a bully, but they sucked and it was a fun fight, so...: Me and my brother were going to the gas station, and some kids we knew from school were hanging about. Well, we didnt like them, and they didint like us, so we threw around a few insults. They had bats...we discovered, and there were three of them, but they were pretty stupid. The fight was short, ugly, kinda complicated, and I got a concussion from it. I held, though, and managed to give some hurt. My brother...well...he kicked a wee bit more butt than me, I admit. Point is: two of them had broken noses and the other was simply knocked unconscious. Lots of blood, lots of groans, and my brother broke one of his fingers blocking a bat.

Moral of the stories: none of these people messed with me again, and I miss fighting.

ATPG: Support.

[Samurai Waki]

The most recent "fight" (which one could hardly call it; more like massacre) that I saw was shortly before I left Montana for my new job. Was in Deer Lodge doing some work with the State Prison, decided to have a drink at the local bar, also the local watering hole for off duty Prison guards. A guy and his "girlfriend" had gotten into a tiff, so he ends up throwing a full force punch to the face of the woman. She goes down, right in front of about six prison guards. All big, mean looking guys even a hardened prisoner would probably have second thoughts about fighting. The guy realizes his error of judgement and books it to his truck, doesn't make it... the biggest guard grabs him by the arm and yanks him out the truck, then dislocates that arm from the shoulder. Another guard moves in and boot stops him in the jaw. Game Over. Dislocated Arm, and broken jaw. I help out the woman, make sure she's okay... besides a bloody nose, all seemed good. Give my report of the altercation to the cops (heavily in the Prison Guard's favor). Hopefully this guy learned his lesson.

[Strike For The South]

the greatest reward was that my friend has a droid and the presence of mind to record the whole thing. while my girl didnt thank me (thought it was wrong) i could tell that she felt a little better about the whole experience to be honest.

The negatives were that i fractured two fingers and had to explain to rotc how that happened (hand got trapped in a car door...... it worked.) and i was out of the dollar b on his bodyill i dropped to get to say "clean yourself up"

was it wrong of me for what i did? probably but in the end he brought it upon himself really by continuing the conflict. i don't feel bad at all if you knew what he had been subjecting this poor girl too and what she then put herself through; its just horrible.

Kids these days, christ

I have never been challenged to a fight in my life, when I go to parties no one screws with me

How does everyone find themsevles in these crazy perdiciments

[Reenk Roink]

Kids these days, christ

I have never been challenged to a fight in my life, when I go to parties no one screws with me

How does everyone find themsevles in these crazy perdiciments

I was about to say am I the only one who hasn't been a bully or been bullied? Though it's much more impressive that you avoided this in Texas :shocked2:, we have rule of law and **** here.

[drone]

I probably should have been bullied more than I was, but I must have exuded a vibe that kept them away. Only had one case, a kid I never liked but never really dealt with came up to me before a class and punched me in the chest. He wasn't really big, just a grade 1 ****** (son of a football coach, liked to think he was the bomb). So I looked at him, gave him the time (after school) and place (off school grounds), and walked off. Couldn't risk a suspension, being the geek that I was (and am). He never showed, and best of all, transferred out of my class. I never had to sit in the same room as him for the rest of high school. :laugh4: What a wuss.

[Centurion1]

I probably should have been bullied more than I was, but I must have exuded a vibe that kept them away. Only had one case, a kid I never liked but never really dealt with came up to me before a class and punched me in the chest. He wasn't really big, just a grade 1 ****** (son of a football coach, liked to think he was the bomb). So I looked at him, gave him the time (after school) and place (off school grounds), and walked off. Couldn't risk a suspension, being the geek that I was (and am). He never showed, and best of all, transferred out of my class. I never had to sit in the same room as him for the rest of high school. :laugh4: What a wuss.

That is the best result i have ever heard. lucky you.

Strike i havent been in many fights sinc ei got to college maybe 3-4. most of those last about 15 seconds before the bouncers are on you and you find yourself out of the bar unless you have more friends saying you didnt start it.

[Jaguara]

Centurion1: Normally I am pretty much a pacifist and non-violent, though I will defend myself and those less able to defend themselves than I...and I hate to condone violence in any public forum...but since you are taking a bit of heat, let me say that in this case I understand totally what you did and why you did it. I probably would not have done what you did, but I would have wanted to.

One question...did it help you to deal with it, or do thoughts of what happened to her still eat at you?

[Megas Methuselah]

i never really understood bullying having grown a relatively popular and large kid, especially after a few typical first days of school confrontations (i moved alot so went to quite a few different schools). But my current girlfriend who is now quite attractive in all honesty told me she was bullied horribly in middle school i didnt believe it (being the gorgeous korean-croatian she is). Turns out she had an awkward phase which i suppose is believable and that one kid in particular tormented her ceaselessly and while i finally pried this out of her i can see the mental scars and psychological damage he did to her. it enrages me even to think of it (i don't want to get into details but it is very sad). I got the name of the kid from her and lo and behold turns out (thank you facebook for simplifying stalking) he goes to the same major state university as one of my best friends.

Now this is rather shameful but i went to visit my friend at university for a few weeks and once again with the joy of facebook saw a party he would be attending. I along with my friend (had no idea of my intentions) went to said party. When i was there i obviously did not go up to the kid and say you bullied k****. No it was much more refined. I took my glasses which i never wear out because they attract @$$ hole tough guys like flies to honey and put them on. Then i went up to him and spilt my beverage on him. he did not take this in stride and began to get in my face. blessing god that he obviously hadnt mellowed out since 7th grade i then proceeded to use 9 years of boxing to give him a very painful lesson in why public humiliation is wrong. After the confrontation the house in which there was a party had a broken ping pong table. I was lucky that no one seemed to care about the place and that it wasnt a bar or something with a bouncer or that his friends wanted to back him up (if he in fact had any)

the greatest reward was that my friend has a droid and the presence of mind to record the whole thing. while my girl didnt thank me (thought it was wrong) i could tell that she felt a little better about the whole experience to be honest.

The negatives were that i fractured two fingers and had to explain to rotc how that happened (hand got trapped in a car door...... it worked.) and i was out of the dollar bill i dropped on his body to get to say "clean yourself up"

was it wrong of me for what i did? probably but in the end he brought it upon himself really by continuing the conflict. i don't feel bad at all if you knew what he had been subjecting this poor girl too and what she then put herself through; its just horrible.

No, you did the right thing, bro. Props to you. Who else was going to do this, do you think? The teachers? The cops? Lol. That'll be the day. Life can really suck, and we need to look after our own affairs. Nobody else cares.

You reap what you sow, remember? Let God commit vengeance. Well, your girl didn't go after revenge. You did. You were God's tool to balance out her part of the universe. It's all good.

Just don't make a habit out of this thing, though.

[Megas Methuselah]

I have never been challenged to a fight in my life, when I go to parties no one screws with me

Yeah, people around here are scared of indians. For my safety, social ignorance has its uses.

[Ronin]

Zangief does not suffer bullies!


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhm03a_little-zangief-zangief-kid-street-fighter-version_fun

[Askthepizzaguy]

There is no way that kid inflicted even close to 30% damage.

[Centurion1]

Yeah, people around here are scared of indians. For my safety, social ignorance has its uses.

haha i dont know man my friend is half Navajo and hes is a complete california, nicest guy you will ever meet, etc. Before winter break i watched him completely destroy some kid who started something with him.

i at least dont want to start something with him

[Vuk]

Yeah, people around here are scared of indians. For my safety, social ignorance has its uses.

lol, I am friends with two Indians. One is a skinny little taffer who you could break over your knee, and the other has hands as wide as my thighs and well scarred knuckles. I think they are like anyone else, just a mixed bag. It depends on their upbringing and experiences.

[A Very Super Market]

A very inspiring show of force for the tubby kid, but he's one of those guys you can look at and tell will get huge and beefy when he finishes school. What if it's the reverse situation? Like if the bully is just a burly psychopath picking on the tiny kid with osteoporosis? What's he going to do? Hope his abuser gets impaled on a shard of bone?

As for the school's reaction, it's the same as most. From what I've experienced, adults are lousy at understanding the actual situation, and just punish whoever seems to have hit the hardest. Hell, I once ran into a kid and he got in trouble because the administration decided that he actually gave me a shove.

[Megas Methuselah]

lol, I am friends with two Indians. One is a skinny little taffer who you could break over your knee, and the other has hands as wide as my thighs and well scarred knuckles. I think they are like anyone else, just a mixed bag. It depends on their upbringing and experiences.

These boards contain an enlightened group of people (theoretically, anyways). In the north, when you see an indian, you cross the street and avoid eye contact. Rule of thumb. Sort of like how it is with black people down south.

Of course, this isn't true in some cases. Younger generations are generally more open, but that's not always the case. Racism takes a long time to bleed out.