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GeneralHankerchief
05-04-2011, 21:50
One evening as the sun went down
And the jungle fires were burning,
Down the track came a hobo hiking,
And he said, "Boys, I'm not turning
I'm headed for a land that's far away
Besides the crystal fountains
So come with me, we'll go and see
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
~ Harry McClintock

A campground, Clinton, Iowa, United States.

The myth of the American vagabond, the traveler roaming across the country, in search of exactly what nobody is certain, is a very prevalent one in society. Countless tales have been written over the years; stories, legends, apocrypha. The archetype has become almost overused in society, to the point where today's writers and chroniclers always look elsewhere for their tales for fear of not being taken seriously.

What few people realize is that the American vagabond is not a myth. It still exists - it always has and always will - on the fringes of society, maybe not as numerous or as prevalent as it once was, but still there. These lonely figures crisscross the country, come across each other and pass like ships in the night, always moving to the great land of Elsewhere. These people have their secret places, and every so often when in the need of rest or company, will congregate there briefly before inevitably setting off again.

The campground in Clinton, Iowa, is one of these places. Clinton, a sleepy river town with a for-profit college and a fast-food shack run by Flava Flav himself, has its quirks and peculiarities much like any other American town. The great road U.S. Route 30, the former old Lincoln Highway, runs through the town and crosses the Mississippi here. It is this road that most of our travelers have come through on, and it is off this road they will veer to take rest for the night.

These travelers, these lonely Americans, congregate here through the night. They say their hellos, some trade items, some trade stories, but for the most part they ignore each other and look for a comfortable place to sleep for the night. But then, two things happen during the night. First, a freak storm hits, leaving the only dirt road in and out of the campground a muddy lake. The Mississippi has overflowed and flooded, and there will be no leaving for a while. Everybody groans and worries about rationing their food and other basic necessities. The second thing, however, is far worse. Someone turns on a radio.

"Two dangerous felons have escaped from the Clinton Hospital for the Criminally Insane," the newscaster says, with just the perfect inflection designed to scare the wits out of anybody listening and still be taken seriously as a broadcaster. "Their whereabouts are currently unknown, but police have advised to stay out of isolated areas such as alleys, fields, and campgrounds. Please be sure to lock your doors at all times and do not let your children venture out alone."

The campers all look at each other. They know Clinton well. It has to be here. This is the downside of life as the American Vagabond, the understated danger of living on the road. And now they are going to have to deal with the consequences. Each tries to get some sleep during the night, but it is a futile pursuit. They know that, in the morning, something is going to be done.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rules, etc.:

This is a vanilla mafia game, designed for 17 people. There will be two mafiosi who know each other's identities and are not allowed to kill each other at night. They get one kill per night, no matter their numbers (unless it is zero). There will be no other power roles.

This game, along with Andres's previous large game, will provide you good training for the first of the games that will be part of the Gameroom Anniversary Celebration, which will happen in a month and be hosted by yours truly. I'm sure you can all guess what kind of format it's going to be and even the title (:grin:), but that's going to have to wait. For now, enjoy your light and fun Small Game! Please post to sign up.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Signed up: (17/17)
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
Zack
Saregona
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Renata
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

(Romanic)

seireikhaan
05-04-2011, 22:06
:charge:

Visor
05-04-2011, 22:07
Sure, I'll bite. Count me in.

Reenk Roink
05-04-2011, 22:40
Clinton, Iowa???? :laugh4:

:bow:

Zack
05-04-2011, 22:45
I in

Who am i?
05-04-2011, 22:49
Hello.

Hello shall join.

Chaotix
05-04-2011, 23:18
Put me down as reserve- I'm free to play, but if the list fills up and someone else would rather take my spot, they have it.

B-Wing
05-05-2011, 00:40
I'm diving in!

robbiecon
05-05-2011, 01:34
I'm going to assume there's marshmallows and say IN.

GeneralHankerchief
05-05-2011, 03:53
Clinton, Iowa???? :laugh4:

:bow:

Yeah! Why, you ever been there? :laugh4:

Csargo
05-05-2011, 05:17
In/

Reenk Roink
05-05-2011, 06:08
Yeah! Why, you ever been there? :laugh4:

Pretty sure we filled gas there once... Obviously this gives me excellent knowledge of the setting and thus the campers should defer to my leadership. :snobby:

Diamondeye
05-05-2011, 09:08
Pretty sure we filled gas there once... Obviously this gives me excellent knowledge of the setting and thus the campers should defer to my leadership. :snobby:

We will!
In, by the way.

I love the setup. And the Big Rock Candy Mountain theme!
You can have your stew, and your whiskey too,
you can paddle all around it in a big canoo...

Andres
05-05-2011, 09:48
In.

johnhughthom
05-05-2011, 10:51
Aye.

Renata
05-05-2011, 14:17
In.

Scienter
05-05-2011, 18:44
I'll play!

GeneralHankerchief
05-06-2011, 01:48
There's still a few spots open if you guys want 'em. :yes:

(yes, this is a covert bump)

God Emperor
05-06-2011, 08:47
ok :) Me in

Diamondeye
05-06-2011, 09:46
ok :) Me in

:smug:
"Less coercion, more manipulation", I always say...!

Andres
05-06-2011, 11:46
Oh, this game already started, but I didn't get a pm! I must be an innocent townie, then!

Vote : Diamondeye

It's always him.

Diamondeye
05-06-2011, 17:39
Oh, this game already started, but I didn't get a pm! I must be an innocent townie, then!

Vote : Diamondeye

It's always him.

You're first :stare:

Askthepizzaguy
05-06-2011, 20:08
I'll join to fill out the ranks.

GeneralHankerchief
05-07-2011, 02:52
Okay, we'll leave signups open for one more day or so and then I'll start things. :yes:

Romanic
05-07-2011, 03:36
I'll also join to fill the ranks, but I don't have as much time to play mafia. If someone wants my spot, before the game starts, he can have it (and put me on the reserves).

TheLastDays
05-07-2011, 09:26
Count me in!

Thanks
TLD

GeneralHankerchief
05-07-2011, 17:48
Alright, I'm closing signups. Chaotix will take the final spot, Romanic will be a reserve and will step in if needed. Thanks for your interest, I'll get PMs out shortly and then we'll begin things. :yes:

God Emperor
05-07-2011, 18:05
Csargo is scum. Let's see some votes on him.
Vote: Csargo

GeneralHankerchief
05-07-2011, 18:11
Clinton, Iowa
Day 1

Nobody got any sleep after the radio broadcast. Most of these campers were hardened veterans, able to get a few hours of shut-eye in any environment, but the combination of the soggy conditions due to the storm and the fear that there were two dangerous killers hidden amongst them was enough to ensure that for once the veterans would have to spend a night sleepless.

Finally, at dawn, one of the campers, realizing everyone's mutual situation, called everyone together. "All right, folks," he said, "We know what we're up against. We're cut off from escape and help, and there's 15 of us and two of them. Problem is, we don't know who 'they' are. The way I see it, there's only one way out of this. Process of elimination. This is America, right? We all believe in the democratic process, right? We've all been on the road for a while, we all know how to read people, otherwise we'd probably already be in a ditch somewhere. I think with our collective minds we'll be able to figure out who these two killers are and get rid of them ourselves. Any objections?"

"Yeah," piped up another camper. "Isn't there a better way to do this? I don't want to die just because we get a guess wrong!"

"And what do you have to live for?" chimed in a third. "Something happened to you back home that made you be one of us, one of the road warriors. When's it going to end for you? For any of us? Do any of us truly have a home to go back to anyway? Home is where we make it, and right now home is right here. And our home is under attack, so we may as well defend it." This was met with more than a few grunts of agreement.

"Any other objections?" asked the first camper, who was replied to with silence. "No? Well, then, let's start this thing. See you all on another road."

It is now Day 1. Day 1 will last for roughly 30 hours, as I'll be out for a lot of tomorrow.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive (17):
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
Zack
Who am i?
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Renata
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

God Emperor
05-07-2011, 18:13
fine.. I will try again :laugh4:

Vote: Csargo

B-Wing
05-07-2011, 18:29
vote: Who am i?

Because your post is eerily similar to Saregona's style. And he's shady.

Askthepizzaguy
05-07-2011, 19:33
Vote: Scienter

I wouldn't want your turn as mafia to be too easy, now.

Csargo
05-07-2011, 20:14
fine.. I will try again :laugh4:

Vote: Csargo

https://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4103/1256972093599.jpg (https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/1256972093599.jpg/)

Zack
05-07-2011, 20:33
Vote: Askthepizzaguy

....:rolleyes:

(posted from mobile device, sorry)


I am a total scumbag.

Diamondeye
05-07-2011, 20:40
Vote: Zack for obvious reasons :stare:

Zack
05-07-2011, 21:04
Unvote, Vote: Diamondeye

:stare:

Diamondeye
05-07-2011, 21:12
Unvote, Vote: Diamondeye

:stare:

You left out the "for obvious reasons", mate.

Reenk Roink
05-07-2011, 21:23
Can we like NOT send out townie PMs to not get people's hopes up just to poop on them? :furious2:

Anyway I read some study that showed that most insane serial killers were men and that it was rare for them to be women so Renata should be innocent for now.

Vote: Zack

By the way GH, one of the best parts about a Mafia game's story is building the scenario of the voting to find Mafia, never gets old. :2thumbsup: :laugh4:

Zack
05-07-2011, 21:34
Unvote, Vote: Reenk Roink

:stare:

Scienter
05-07-2011, 21:38
Anyway I read some study that showed that most insane serial killers were men and that it was rare for them to be women so Renata should be innocent for now.


I like your logic, Reenk. I'm innocent, too!

Vote: who am i because I don't know who s/he is.

Zack
05-07-2011, 22:12
Who am i? is Saregona.

johnhughthom
05-08-2011, 04:19
Vote: Askthepizzaguy

....:rolleyes:

(posted from mobile device, sorry)


I am a total scumbag.

Vote:Zack

Amateur. You forgot your "If I was mafia I would..." line.

Who am i?
05-08-2011, 04:37
Who am i? is Saregona.

Hello.

Hello.

Vote: Reenk Roink

TheLastDays
05-08-2011, 06:11
Vote: God Emperor for being a little eager...

Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 08:10
unvote, vote: Who am I

Csargo
05-08-2011, 08:24
unvote, vote: Who am I

WHY WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING?

Vote:Andres take that!

Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 08:31
WHY WOULD YOU DO SUCH A THING?

To find out who Who am I who am is.

Who am i?
05-08-2011, 08:43
To find out who Who am I who am is.

Hello.

Why do you want to find out who am i?

Askthepizzaguy
05-08-2011, 09:50
Hello.

Why do you want to find out who am i?

Why don't you want me to know?

Visor
05-08-2011, 10:00
Vote: The Last Days

Well, these are yours. :P

TheLastDays
05-08-2011, 10:01
Good question...

unvote, vote: Who am i?

robbiecon
05-08-2011, 17:38
Vote: Yaseikhaan,

I choo-choo-choose you!

Chaotix
05-08-2011, 18:09
Hey, did all of you guys get two different role PMs?

Vote: Sasaki

Andres
05-08-2011, 18:50
Hello.

Vote : God Emperor

Leave Csargo alone ~:mad

Zack
05-08-2011, 19:01
Vote:Zack

Amateur. You forgot your "If I was mafia I would..." line.

Unvote, Vote: JHT

:stare:

God Emperor
05-08-2011, 19:06
Hey, did all of you guys get two different role PMs?

Vote: Sasaki


Hey yes, now that you mention it.. ... . . . Do'h !

robbiecon
05-08-2011, 21:53
So, where be them marshmallows?

Chaotix
05-08-2011, 22:47
Unvote, Vote: God Emperor

GeneralHankerchief
05-09-2011, 01:11
Voting closed, give me a bit. :yes:

GeneralHankerchief
05-09-2011, 01:47
Clinton, Iowa
Day 1

Tending to the campfire was a very messy affair. Everybody had to go out in fours to gather wood due to the lack of trust, in order to prevent the dangerous killers from overpowering anyone without serious opposition. This took away from the other tasks that needed to be completed in order for the campers to maintain a sustained existence. Additionally, due to the soggy conditions, building the fire was a very arduous process, and the final result was a little flame that not even a Neanderthal would be proud of.

These general conditions made for a very snippy group of campers, which, compounded with the fact that they had to vote one of their own off to be sentenced to death, meant that everyone got mad at each other for the smallest of reasons. This was evidenced in the voting by the fact that a full nine out of 17 total campers received at least one vote. Everyone was worried what would happen if the votes were split 17 different ways, and how on earth they would ever resolve *that* predicament, but by the end of the day one name separated itself from the pack.

Who am i? was probably the most mysterious of all campers. Nobody knew anything about where he came from, his backstory, or even his name. His accent was impossible to place. His manner of speaking was unlike anything anyone had ever seen before. Nobody even knew what he looked like due to the concealing clothes he wore. A couple of people weren't even sure that he was a male. Nobody knew what kind of music Who am i? liked, or what he was running from. Nobody had ever seen him on the road before, and he had not deigned to tell anyone of how exactly he had come to this cursed campground in Clinton, Iowa, in the first place.

This complete and utter lack of knowledge about who Who am i? was what ultimately unnerved the rest of the campers. These road warriors of America were all a fraternity of sorts, even if they never quite interacted with each other, and they all had a code. Chances were slim that you would ever see each other again when you came across each other, so there was always a natural instinct to share stories and to empathize with your brother of the road. The fact that Who am i? generally had no inclination whatsoever to partake in this, even under these circumstances, was ultimately his undoing. You had to keep with the code, after all, even under these circumstances.

Eventually he received 4 votes, which was enough to put him over the edge. Everyone stood around the makeshift fire, unsure what to do next. All was silent - even Who am i? did not make a break for it or lodge a protest.

"Anyone got a knife?" one of the campers said.

"Yeah, but it might be a murder weapon later. I don't want anybody to see my knife and then claim that I killed somebody just because it means they don't get lynched." There was a general murmuring of agreement to this.

"Okay, fine," said one of the stronger campers. "Let's do this the quick way, then, shall we?" And without further ado, he bent down, picked up the largest log in the fire, and swung it, still flaming, at Who am i?'s head. Who am i? crumpled to the ground, possibly already dead, but a few more whacks took care of it just in case.

"Hope we don't ever have to see anything like that again," one of the campers said, and then they all went back to their individual sleeping spots to try for sleep that they all knew would not come.

Day 1 tally:
Who am i?: 4 (B_Ray, Scienter, ATPG, TheLastDays) :skull:
Zack: 3 (Diamondeye, Reenk, JHT)
God Emperor: 2 (Andres, Chaotix)
Csargo: 1 (God Emperor)
Andres: 1 (Csargo)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Who am i?)
Yaseikhaan: 1 (robbiecon)
TheLastDays: 1 (Visorslash)
johnhughthom: 1 (Zack)

Not voting: 2 (khaan, Renata)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 16
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
Zack
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Renata
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Executed:
Who am i?

It is now Night 1. Night will last until 21:00 GMT-4 (US Eastern time) tomorrow. Mafia, gimme your choice.

B-Wing
05-09-2011, 02:13
GeneralHanky, I gotta say, I love the theme of this game. It's very realistic, with a great atmosphere; I can almost feel like I'm there, and I like it! I even found the details of Who am i?'s death in the write-up a little unsettling, which I think is a sign of immersion. Just wanted to say thanks!

Zack
05-09-2011, 02:13
Mafia, gimme your choice.

Do you prefer in the QuickTopic or by PM?

B-Wing
05-09-2011, 02:16
You can just post it in this thread; that'll be fine by me.

Zack
05-09-2011, 02:48
Very well.

Kill B_Ray. Throw him on the grill, medium-rare, then slap him on a sesame seed bun (but not before the special sauce is put on him). Slap with a fish, stab three times with an icicle, take a bite, vomit, throw him in the garbage can, incinerate said garbage can, ask everyone else present if they want burgers, swear viciously if they decline, kill everyone who denied a burger, flip all the others off, go inside and turn the TV on to the History Channel and watch a documentary about Nazis.

GeneralHankerchief
05-09-2011, 03:23
turn the TV on to the History Channel and watch a documentary about Nazis.

Must be pre-recorded, the only thing "History" shows now is The Nostradamus Effect and Ice Road Truckers. :wall:

Csargo
05-09-2011, 06:06
Must be pre-recorded, the only thing "History" shows now is The Nostradamus Effect and Ice Road Truckers. :wall:

They've also got Pawn Stars and American Pickers and that gun challenge show. Not sure what happened there though. :sad:

Renata
05-09-2011, 14:55
Can we like NOT send out townie PMs to not get people's hopes up just to poop on them? :furious2:

Anyway I read some study that showed that most insane serial killers were men and that it was rare for them to be women so Renata should be innocent for now.

Vote: Zack

By the way GH, one of the best parts about a Mafia game's story is building the scenario of the voting to find Mafia, never gets old. :2thumbsup: :laugh4:

Belated vote: Reenk for failing to go after me properly.

Scienter
05-09-2011, 15:46
They've also got Pawn Stars and American Pickers and that gun challenge show. Not sure what happened there though. :sad:

Pawn Stars is awesome!

B-Wing
05-09-2011, 16:25
I gotta say, I'm quite fond of Pawn Stars and American Pickers.
vote: Scienter, for sharing my sentiments.

Diamondeye
05-09-2011, 17:12
Guys it's night. Also I don't think Zack is guilty.

Renata
05-09-2011, 18:30
vote: Diamondeye

He's a vampire! I have it on the highest authority.

God Emperor
05-09-2011, 18:34
Guys it's night. Also I don't think Zack is guilty.

:stare: I think what we are really looking for , is a person who is mafia more than 40% of the time

Diamondeye
05-09-2011, 18:46
:stare: I think what we are really looking for , is a person who is mafia more than 40% of the time

You heard the man - fetch Classical Hero!

:curtain:

Zack
05-09-2011, 22:31
Guys it's night. Also I don't think Zack is guilty.

Excellent, my powers of stealth are functioning properly.

:curtain:

Andres
05-09-2011, 22:34
Very well.

Kill B_Ray. Throw him on the grill, medium-rare, then slap him on a sesame seed bun (but not before the special sauce is put on him). Slap with a fish, stab three times with an icicle, take a bite, vomit, throw him in the garbage can, incinerate said garbage can, ask everyone else present if they want burgers, swear viciously if they decline, kill everyone who denied a burger, flip all the others off, go inside and turn the TV on to the History Channel and watch a documentary about Nazis.


Ballsy and Ruthless

:thinking2:

Zack
05-09-2011, 23:03
:thinking2:

Don't be getting any ideas, townie. :stare:

Diamondeye
05-09-2011, 23:45
vote: Diamondeye

He's a vampire! I have it on the highest authority.

Also this is obviously the reply of a deranged madman who belongs in an asylum; we all know vampires don't exist, right guys?
... Is that garlic in your breath? Eew.

GeneralHankerchief
05-10-2011, 02:23
Clinton, Iowa
Night 1

All of the sleeping spots were spread out quite far from each other during the night. This was more than understandable, given the situation, but it also denied the campers of one advantage that could have seriously helped themselves out: companionship. Closer campsites meant there was a greater chance for somebody to hear what was going on. For somebody to see that somebody was out of their tent. For somebody to stop a potential killer.

Renata, for one, did not mind the isolation. She, as did most of the other campers, most likely, actually preferred it this way. Life was difficult. People were annoying. Her own thoughts and music provided for far greater company than any of the other campers. Plus, two of them might be murderers? That was one wager that Renata was not going to take. No, she would sit off, on her own, with one of her prized possessions - her trusty portable music player - to keep her company. In the last movie she had seen, The Book of Eli, the title character had lugged around his mp3 player for thirty years, the machine having survived a nuclear holocaust and God knew what else. Renata hoped her device would at least be able to half that feat.

She fired it up, popped her headphones in, and then began to space out. Getting a good battery charge was always difficult, and would be doubly so out here with no hope of anything remotely resembling indoor life for a while, but she hoped the old girl would last. Renata would try to forget everything and hope the music would softly lull her to sleep. It was working... David Gray's "Babylon" was coming on, reminding her of the road life in general which she had come to embrace... she was drifting... drifting..... ......drifting......

Suddenly, a interruption. The song ended prematurely. Somebody had yanked the headphones right out of her ears. "Hey! -" Renata would have shouted, were it not for the fact that that person was now using them to strangle her alive. Renata was gasping and choking for air, groping at nothing, for her assailant was stronger and able to keep her off-balance without letting her breathe.

Renata gasped and choked away her last breaths, with "Babylon" still tinnily coming out of the headphones which were now officially a murder weapon.

As the sun rose, the campers decided by mutual agreement to take a head count. As it turned out, their worst fears were confirmed - they were down one. Renata was not around. A quick look around confirmed that she had died. Everybody started groaning and complaining, which was a convenient way to mask their true emotion: fear. There would be another vote.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 15
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
Zack
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata

Executed:
Who am i?

It is now Day 2. This phase will last until 21:30 GMT -4 (US Eastern time).

Zack
05-10-2011, 02:32
Vote: B_Ray

Why you no die?? :stare:

Csargo
05-10-2011, 02:39
Vote:Zack

This is for your own good.

Zack
05-10-2011, 02:42
Vote:Zack

This is for your own good.

:bigcry:

What did I ever do to you, meanie?

Scienter
05-10-2011, 02:49
I gotta say, I'm quite fond of Pawn Stars and American Pickers.
vote: Scienter, for sharing my sentiments.

What is your opinion of Top Shot? Your answer will determine my vote.

Renata
05-10-2011, 03:01
I thought I was about due for a night one offing. Well timed, scum, well timed.

Zack
05-10-2011, 03:01
I thought I was about due for a night one offing. Well timed, scum, well timed.

Don't congratulate me, congratulate the host. I think General Hankercheif messed up my order to kill B_Ray, and accidentally offed you instead. Bad break for both of us.

GeneralHankerchief
05-10-2011, 03:34
Don't congratulate me, congratulate the host. I think General Hankercheif messed up my order to kill B_Ray, and accidentally offed you instead. Bad break for both of us.

Only because I foresaw you messing up my name. :stare:

GeneralHankerchief
05-10-2011, 03:36
Also w00t, Post #9,000. :balloon3: :medievalcheers:

Who am i?
05-10-2011, 03:40
Also w00t, Post #9,000. :balloon3: :medievalcheers:

Hello.

I amd dead also posts than you.

Zack
05-10-2011, 03:47
Only because I foresaw you messing up my name. :stare:

Please forgive me of my sins, General. I swear to the heavens it was a typo.

Reenk Roink
05-10-2011, 04:04
Canucks just won. Not sure about how I feel about that (though the entire series was boring as ****). Vote: Zack

B-Wing
05-10-2011, 04:06
What is your opinion of Top Shot? Your answer will determine my vote.

*gulps* A tricky question...

I'll be honest. I've never watched an entire episode. Sharpshooting isn't all that appealing to me, so watching lots of guys try to hit targets for 30 minutes at a time just doesn't provide that much entertainment. It's impressive, no doubt, but I'm more interested in facts, economics, and mental prowess, which is why Pawn Stars and American Pickers appeal more. Cause those shows are about guys using their business wiles and historical knowledge to make a living off trading, essentially. Like modern day caravan merchants. Fascinating stuff. That said, a gun and good aim would be tremendously more useful in this situation.


Vote: Zack, for making such an awfully descriptive depiction of my death. Which involved cannibalism. Cannibals are bad.

Zack
05-10-2011, 04:09
*serious mode on*

Voting for me is being lazy, settling for an easy target. This is the second time in a row you've done it with no explanation, Reenk Roink. Stop being lazy. :stare:

Unvote, Vote: Reenk Roink

Chaotix
05-10-2011, 04:42
Ok...

Vote: God Emperor

Merely a feeling.

Reenk Roink
05-10-2011, 04:45
You dare ask for explanations for votes!?!?!?! :stare:

It is surely an incontrovertible maxim of Mafia games and of life itself that seeking explanations for actions is the surest way to fall into manifest error. For it is clear that any introspection for reasons behind our motives are themselves laden with various biases, observational vantages, and theoretical paradigms which lead to significant distortion. Not only this, but surely it must be admitted that a complete and comprehensive account of explanation for anything at all is simply not cognoscible! The explanandum and explanans are both infinite whereas our minds are simply finite.

And, despite this, you demand from our inherently flawed selves these inherently flawed casuistries for votes with a brazen foolishness that knows no limit (or perhaps they are sought with a cognizant malevolence? :inquisitive:)!

Whatever the case may be, I am quite certain you need to be killed off. In fact, I will now make it my primary goal of this game to do so. :knight:

Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2011, 04:50
Vote: Visorslash

Well, these are yours.

Visor
05-10-2011, 06:33
Vote: Reenk Roink

TheLastDays
05-10-2011, 07:03
Vote: ATPG

Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2011, 07:06
Vote: ATPG

You meant to vote for Visorslash. :wink: But I forgive you.

Visor
05-10-2011, 07:10
Don't worry, I'm here to help!

Unvote; Vote: Visorslash

Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2011, 07:16
Nifty...

unvote, vote: Chaotix

God Emperor loves Renata.

Andres
05-10-2011, 08:15
Vote : Scienter

Game over for you, mafiosa :stare: You might as well confess, you murderer :stare:

Diamondeye
05-10-2011, 11:08
FoS: People voting Zack

Vote: RR

seireikhaan
05-10-2011, 11:17
Vote: B_Ray

Long live the old history channel!

johnhughthom
05-10-2011, 11:24
Vote: The LastDays

Explain yourself sir.

God Emperor
05-10-2011, 14:03
FoS: People voting Zack

Vote: RR

Vote: Zack :laugh4:

Seriously though, your style has changed Zack. worth exploring (although this game doesn't offer reveals)

Zack
05-10-2011, 14:05
Vote: Zack :laugh4:

Seriously though, your style has changed Zack. worth exploring (although this game doesn't offer reveals)

I'm almost always an idiot like this in small games nowadays. Usually at least one scumbag votes for me when I do this act.

Scienter
05-10-2011, 14:28
Vote : Scienter

Game over for you, mafiosa :stare: You might as well confess, you murderer :stare:

:inquisitive: What makes you think I killed her?


*gulps* A tricky question...

I'll be honest. I've never watched an entire episode. Sharpshooting isn't all that appealing to me, so watching lots of guys try to hit targets for 30 minutes at a time just doesn't provide that much entertainment. It's impressive, no doubt, but I'm more interested in facts, economics, and mental prowess, which is why Pawn Stars and American Pickers appeal more. Cause those shows are about guys using their business wiles and historical knowledge to make a living off trading, essentially. Like modern day caravan merchants. Fascinating stuff. That said, a gun and good aim would be tremendously more useful in this situation.


I don't entirely agree with you, but your rationale is good.

Yaseikhaan, are you dissing Pawn Stars? :stare: I wish the History Channel would show more... history. I really can't stand those paranormal and "Searching for Sasquatch" type shows. It's almost as bad as the Sci Fi channel showing wrestling.

Andres
05-10-2011, 14:30
:inquisitive: What makes you think I killed her?

Why do you feel the need to defend yourself against what is obviously a nonsensical vote?

Scienter
05-10-2011, 14:37
Why do you feel the need to defend yourself against what is obviously a nonsensical vote?

I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

Csargo
05-10-2011, 14:43
Yeah Andres.

Lazy Andres is lazy. :(

Reenk Roink
05-10-2011, 15:51
I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

OOOOOOOOOOOO y'all got burned.

But shouldn't YOU be using a girl avatar if you are a girl? :inquisitive: There are a lot of you types in Clinton, Iowa, and none of them are up to any good.

Andres
05-10-2011, 16:32
I find it interesting that both you and APTG have randomly voted for me. If you don't think I'm mafia, why would you vote for me? Shouldn't you be trying to uncover the scum?

FoS:Andres

It is perfectly possible that two people who vote randomly vote the same person.

Why do you think my vote was random?

TheLastDays
05-10-2011, 17:37
I see no need to explain myself... You should...
unvote, vote: Zack :P

Diamondeye
05-10-2011, 19:46
Vote: Zack :laugh4:
Seriously though, your style has changed Zack. worth exploring (although this game doesn't offer reveals)

I see no need to explain myself... You should...
unvote, vote: Zack :P

:stare::stare::stare:

HoS you guys

Scienter
05-10-2011, 20:14
It is perfectly possible that two people who vote randomly vote the same person.

Why do you think my vote was random?

You yourself said that it was nonsensical. :inquisitive:

Vote: Andres

Zack
05-10-2011, 22:33
:stare::stare::stare:

HoS you guys

I have to ask, why are you defending me so vehemently?

Typically in mafia, one shouldn't defend another unless they know they're on the same side.

Zack
05-10-2011, 22:34
BTW the lot of you are proving why Joker roles are so easy.

To repeat a phrase a wise man once used:

I have to ask, what legitimate reason is there to vote for me besides the fact that I have been acting silly? (On Day 1? SILLY??? NEVAR!!!!! :stare:)

johnhughthom
05-10-2011, 23:10
BTW the lot of you are proving why Joker roles are so easy.

To repeat a phrase a wise man once used:

I have to ask, what legitimate reason is there to vote for me besides the fact that I have been acting silly? (On Day 1? SILLY??? NEVAR!!!!! :stare:)

Because you're Ballsy and Ruthless enough to do so as scum?

Zack
05-10-2011, 23:21
Because you're Ballsy and Ruthless enough to do so as scum?

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Chaotix
05-11-2011, 01:15
Nifty...

unvote, vote: Chaotix

God Emperor loves Renata.

O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 01:21
O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

A scapegoat?

B-Wing
05-11-2011, 01:21
BTW the lot of you are proving why Joker roles are so easy.

Could anybody fill me in on what exactly a "joker" role is? It's not in the forum's Glossary sticky, and I didn't find it in either of the two Mafia wikis I know of.

Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 01:28
Could anybody fill me in on what exactly a "joker" role is? It's not in the forum's Glossary sticky, and I didn't find it in either of the two Mafia wikis I know of.

The joker role is banned forever.

We shall never speak of it again.

B-Wing
05-11-2011, 01:29
:cry: Please?

johnhughthom
05-11-2011, 01:32
:cry: Please?

Somebody who wins the game when they get lynched. I hate them. I hate them. They are horrible.

GeneralHankerchief
05-11-2011, 02:31
Voting closed.

GeneralHankerchief
05-11-2011, 02:43
Clinton, Iowa
Day 2

The voting continued. There was still no attempt to build some sort of facet of a society amongst the campers. There was still too much distrust. More importantly, there was still too much denial about their situation. They were all hoping that this threat would simply go away. Naturally, it wouldn't - Renata's death spoke to that. And soon they were all running low on food and fuel for the fire, and the voting got even testier as a result.

The target for today was Zack, who appropriately enough was probably the most in denial about their situation. He more so than anyone else was cracking jokes, repeatedly saying how he was one of the killers and how every event that they had experienced simply confirmed his status. The campers, already on edge and not really used to dealing with this sort of thing in their everyday lives, were only too happy to oblige him.

It was only now, in the end, did Zack realize exactly what was going to happen to him as the votes started piling on. He quickly changed his tone, saying that voting for him was "the easy way out", but it was far too little, too late. And as the sun set Zack had the clear majority of votes, as two days in it seemed as if the campers' main strategy was to isolate those who didn't quite fit in or go with the group. And so everyone gathered awkwardly around the fire, as Zack, sweating bullets but resigned to his fate, was staring straight at the man who had executed Who am i? the previous day.

"So, what's it going to be?" he asked, trying to keep his voice from shaking. "You got the last guy by surprise, but this time I know what's -"

Zack never saw it coming, as the second strongest of the campers was the one who wielded the flaming log this time. Everyone shook their heads and immediately went back to their own little worlds for the night, each of them regretting more and more the choices they had made in life that had brought them to this point.

Day 2 tally:

Zack: 5 (Csargo, Reenk, B_Ray, God Emperor, TheLastDays) :skull:
Reenk Roink: 2 (Zack, Diamondeye)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Chaotix)
Visorslash: 1 (Visorslash)
Andres: 1 (Scienter)
Chaotix: 1 (ATPG)
Scienter: 1 (Andres)
B_Ray: 1 (khaan)
TheLastDays: 1 (JHT)

Not voting: 1 (robbiecon)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 14
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack

It is now Night 2. This phase will last until 21:00 GMT -4 (US Eastern time).

Zack
05-11-2011, 03:23
boooooooooo bad townies

First rule of mafia = don't lynch Zack.

Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 04:12
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

Zack
05-11-2011, 04:55
It's all the pizzaman's fault. :stare: I'm not tipping, and not because I'm dead.

Askthepizzaguy
05-11-2011, 04:58
It's all the pizzaman's fault. :stare: I'm not tipping, and not because I'm dead.

Because you're cheap?

Csargo
05-11-2011, 05:36
That's not very nice ATPG. :'(

Andres
05-11-2011, 12:13
You yourself said that it was nonsensical. :inquisitive:

Vote: Andres

"Nonsensical" and "random" are not the same.

Zack
05-11-2011, 13:03
Because you're cheap?

:bigcry: You cut me real deep. (I fully expect you to cover the medical bill for said cuts.)

Diamondeye
05-11-2011, 16:17
I have to ask, why are you defending me so vehemently?

Typically in mafia, one shouldn't defend another unless they know they're on the same side.

You were too close to being lynched day 1.
Who am i?: 4 (B_Ray, Scienter, ATPG, TheLastDays)
Zack: 3 (Diamondeye, Reenk, JHT)
God Emperor: 2 (Andres, Chaotix)
Csargo: 1 (God Emperor)
Andres: 1 (Csargo)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Who am i?)
Yaseikhaan: 1 (robbiecon)
TheLastDays: 1 (Visorslash)
johnhughthom: 1 (Zack)

If you were scum, that's a risky place to have your vote when the going gets tight. That's not to say I'm 100% sure of your alignment, but looking at this vote (and then today's), I consider it pretty unlikely. Problem is, while I'm of course suspicious of the people who bandwagoned you today, the wagon was so massive that scum could just as well have been fishing around lodging irrelevant votes...

B Ray is the most suspicious at the moment in my opinion.

Chaotix
05-11-2011, 18:21
Problem is, while I'm of course suspicious of the people who bandwagoned you today, the wagon was so massive that scum could just as well have been fishing around lodging irrelevant votes...



Hey!

Stop implicating me, I'm trying to blend in here.

B-Wing
05-12-2011, 01:11
B Ray is the most suspicious at the moment in my opinion.

Oh you'll pay for that tonight! :klingon: I mean, uh... you... you're incorrect, sir.

GeneralHankerchief
05-12-2011, 02:28
Clinton, Iowa
Night 2

The campers were two full days in to their situation and the soggy conditions that had trapped them here showed no signs of abating. The one person with a radio had relayed to them all that locally, this flooding was the worst in the area since the summer of 2008. The Mississippi was still overflowing, and the only road leaving in or out of the campground was still a flooded, soggy, mess. And this meant that all of the like-minded people at the campground were still trapped there, at the mercy of the two interlopers in their midst and with no weapon to combat them save for their collective intelligences and trust.

They themselves had killed two of their own, collectively. Did they go two-for-two? Would this be the last of the bloodshed at the campground, and would the campers be able to wait for conditions to improve in peace? robbiecon, for one, doubted it. The odds of that happening, based off pure numbers, were two-in-seventeen immediately followed by one-or-two-in-fifteen, which equated to a percentage rate of... well... robbiecon was never much good at math. This was one of the reasons why he had taken to a life on the road. He had never really fit in with his school, with his hometown; he had worked several jobs though, and was good at them too, but the discipline required to stay on them and do the same thing, day in and day out, was never there.

A road life called to robbiecon, and he was eventually helpless to resist, taking to it only two years ago. He had learned quite a lot in those two years - the tricks of survival, how to stretch a limited budget until it was impossible to stretch further, and then stretch it some more, where the safe places are to stay - but this place would be the final test. Could he keep out of trouble and figure out who didn't quite belong?

This was all a lot to ponder. robbiecon needed to remain calm and and coherent. In order to do this he would need his sleep. A soft song played in his head, "Captain Jack" by Billy Joel, as he tried to drift off. robbiecon had no tent, he would sleep under the stars. It was a cloudy night, so not even the twinkle of the stars would help him.

It was 48 hours, give or take, since robbiecon had gotten a good, true rest. He was finally calm enough to put all of his nerves, all of his paranoia, behind him. He eventually drifted off into blissful oblivion, thoughts of where he had been in life and where he would end up, "Captain Jack" still playing in his head, when the criminal's rusty knife was plunged directly into his throat.

The next day, when doing a headcount, the campers soon realized that there would be another duty they had to attend to aside from voting, gathering wood, keeping the fire going, and scouring for food: burial duty. The murdered victims would be put in the ground. The condemned lynchees would be burned. Currently there were two bodies that had to be buried, with presumably more on the way. "Unless we get this right," one of the campers said, and everybody else agreed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 13
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
B_Ray
Csargo
Diamondeye
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
God Emperor
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata
robbiecon

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack

It is now Day 3. This phase will last 24 hours.

Chaotix
05-12-2011, 02:56
Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Askthepizzaguy
05-12-2011, 02:57
Vote: Chaotix

I'll give my life, assuming I get yours in return. You're infested with scum and villainy.

TheLastDays
05-12-2011, 07:09
Hmmm...

vote: Scienter

Andres
05-12-2011, 08:44
Vote : TheLastDays

Diamondeye
05-12-2011, 10:44
Vote: B Ray obviously.

Visor
05-12-2011, 10:46
Obvious scum is obvious.
Vote: Visorslash

Visor
05-12-2011, 12:15
Actually, I want to vote my scumbuddy off first. Help me, will you?

Unvote; Vote: Csargo

Andres
05-12-2011, 14:51
Unvote ; Vote : Visorslash

He basically confessed.

Reenk Roink
05-12-2011, 16:46
Vote: Diamondeye

God Emperor
05-12-2011, 16:47
Vote: Chaotix , ATPG says you are evil :shrug:

Diamondeye
05-12-2011, 16:48
Vote: Diamondeye

Scum.

seireikhaan
05-12-2011, 17:49
Vote: Diamondeye

False scum accusation- if you really think he is, vote for him, instead of trying to influence others to do your dirty work.

Chaotix
05-12-2011, 21:26
Obvious scum is obvious.
Vote: Visorslash

Ok,

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

I don't like self-votes.

Askthepizzaguy
05-12-2011, 21:46
Ok,

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

I don't like self-votes.

Come back here and fight like a man!

Chicken!!! CHICKEN!!!

I'll eat your face and sell your toes on eBay.

Visor
05-12-2011, 22:02
Lol okay. I self voted for that lulz, and to see your reaction. I'm not voting for myself this round.

Chaotix
05-12-2011, 22:17
Come back here and fight like a man!

Chicken!!! CHICKEN!!!

I'll eat your face and sell your toes on eBay.

:laugh4:

You want a fight, but you've got nothing on me but empty (if hilarious) threats. I find you suspicious, but I am never truly certain of anything.

I'm merely keeping my eye on you for the moment and waiting for you to make another mistake that sets off my scumdar.


Lol okay. I self voted for that lulz, and to see your reaction. I'm not voting for myself this round.

When are you planning on changing it? Last minute to save your own skin?

Visor
05-13-2011, 00:03
Already changed it. It's on Csargo.

Zack
05-13-2011, 00:14
This is Day 3, can we please move on to better reasoning for votes than someone being silly or joke reasons? We'll never catch the mafia this way.

johnhughthom
05-13-2011, 00:15
Vote: God Emperor

Such a lazy vote.

Chaotix
05-13-2011, 00:29
This is Day 3, can we please move on to better reasoning for votes than someone being silly or joke reasons? We'll never catch the mafia this way.

Sure.

Vote: Zack

Chaotix
05-13-2011, 00:30
Unvote, Vote: Zack

Crap, that really takes the comic value away from my first post.

Anyway, still voting Zack, because he is standing in the background and criticizing while not actively pursuing an argument himself.

Visor
05-13-2011, 00:35
:P

Nice work. He won't put up much of a fight.

johnhughthom
05-13-2011, 00:39
Anyway, still voting Zack, because he is standing in the background and criticizing while not actively pursuing an argument himself.

You could probably say that about a few players.

Visor
05-13-2011, 00:39
But those players aren't dead.

seireikhaan
05-13-2011, 01:07
Everyone should vote for Diamondeye. The Heavens have spoken through their prophet, Reenk, and righteously pointed out Diamondeye's guilt.

Also, scummy post was scummy.

Csargo
05-13-2011, 01:50
I think we should all step back for a moment and think about our votes very carefully. Then we can all realize that analyzing and rereading posts takes time we all don't have. So, we should all vote:Diamondeye because he has all the qualifications to lead us to victory through his death. Thank you and have a wonderful day. DIAMONDEYE!! DIAMONDEYE! DIAMONDEYE! DIAMONDEYE!

Chaotix
05-13-2011, 01:50
:P

Nice work. He won't put up much of a fight.

....

:laugh4:

Shows how much I've been paying attention, I guess.

Unvote, Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Zack
05-13-2011, 01:57
Unvote, Vote: Zack

Crap, that really takes the comic value away from my first post.

Anyway, still voting Zack, because he is standing in the background and criticizing while not actively pursuing an argument himself.
Um, I'm dead.

B-Wing
05-13-2011, 02:19
Vote: Andres
Too quiet. Just like me.

GeneralHankerchief
05-13-2011, 02:25
Okay, I'm delaying voting by an hour because I don't feel like counting votes and watching TV.

Scienter
05-13-2011, 02:34
People are voting for Diamondeye just because he's Diamondeye?

Vote: Chaotix. He voted for (dead)Zack so either he's not paying attention or he wants us to think that he's not paying attention...

Askthepizzaguy
05-13-2011, 02:36
unvote, vote: Johnhughthom

Posting more than once in a round, giving reasons for your votes? BAH!!! I smell fakery. You sound like you're pretending to care.

I will, of course, reverse my opinion of you if you help me saw off the head of Jebediah Obediah Zachariah Jebediah Chaotix.

Askthepizzaguy
05-13-2011, 02:38
People are voting for Diamondeye just because he's Diamondeye?

Vote: Chaotix. He voted for (dead)Zack so either he's not paying attention or he wants us to think that he's not paying attention...

Wait, wait, nevermind, a light of hope makes me want to push my vote back on Chaotix.

Didn't see a new page.

unvote, vote: Chaotix

DIE YOU FOUL SCUM-FACE!!! Your face is so full of scum, that it's.... it's.... dripping OFF your face. See? That's how scummy you are, scum-face.

GeneralHankerchief
05-13-2011, 03:42
We have a tie vote - I'm going to throw out all votes and do a runoff. You can only vote for Chaotix or Diamondeye in this round. Voting will end in 22 hours and 20 minutes (so tomorrow at 21:00 US Eastern).

Day 3 tally:

Chaotix: 3 (God Emperor, Scienter, ATPG)
Diamondeye: 3 (Reenk, khaan, Csargo)
God Emperor: 1 (JHT)
Scienter: 1 (TheLastDays)
Visorslash: 1 (Andres)
B_Ray: 1 (Diamondeye)
Csargo: 1 (Visorslash)
Askthepizzaguy: 1 (Chaotix)
Andres: 1 (B_Ray)

seireikhaan
05-13-2011, 03:43
Vote: Diamondeye

Askthepizzaguy
05-13-2011, 03:44
Vote: Chaotix :stare:

johnhughthom
05-13-2011, 03:47
Vote: Chaotix

B-Wing
05-13-2011, 03:53
Vote: Diamondeye

Csargo
05-13-2011, 03:55
Vote: Chaotix :stare:

Vote:DE

Could I entice you to come over to my side with a cookie?

Askthepizzaguy
05-13-2011, 04:00
Vote:DE

Could I entice you to come over to my side with a cookie?

First you'd have to explain why it matters so much to you. :smug:

Reenk Roink
05-13-2011, 05:22
Vote: Diamondeye aka Patrick Marleau

Visor
05-13-2011, 06:33
Vote: Chaotix

Csargo
05-13-2011, 06:58
First you'd have to explain why it matters so much to you. :smug:

:wink:

TheLastDays
05-13-2011, 07:40
Vote: Diamondeye

Andres
05-13-2011, 08:25
Vote: Andres
Too quiet. Just like me.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH A BIT OF PEACE AND SILENCE???!!!!! HUH!!!! HUH!!!!

WE'RE HERE TO ENJOY REST, THE SONG OF THE BIRDS, THE WIND BLOWING THROUGH THE LEAVES!!! BY DEFINITION, WE'RE ALL MISANTHROPES, SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO HEAR A HUMAN VOICE!!! WE'RE HERE EXACTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR VOICES!

I'M HERE TO ENJOY NATURE, REST, PEACE!!!!! WHY DO YOU WANT TO RUIN IT!!! WHY DO YOU HATE THE ENVIRONMENT????? GO BACK TO YOUR STINKING NOISY CITY AND LEAVE REAL MEN IN PEACE, YOU FAKE WANNABE HIPPY!!!!

:furious3::furious3::furious3:

Andres
05-13-2011, 08:28
Vote : Chaotix

He talks too much :stare:

Diamondeye
05-13-2011, 08:49
Unvote; Vote: Chaotix


People are voting for Diamondeye just because he's Diamondeye?

I don't know why they do it! My user title is "Always Innocent"!

Andres
05-13-2011, 09:32
I don't know why they do it! My user title is "Always Innocent"!

Your user title is a lie. Liars must die.

Unvote; Vote: Diamondeye

Diamondeye
05-13-2011, 09:48
Your user title is a lie. Liars must die.

Unvote; Vote: Diamondeye

What. When was that the case.

Andres
05-13-2011, 09:51
What. When was that the case.

Is it your opinion that liars should be kept alive?

Scienter
05-13-2011, 12:05
Vote:Chaotix

Chaotix
05-13-2011, 15:13
Unvote, Vote: Diamondeye

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Askthepizzaguy
05-13-2011, 16:06
Unvote, Vote: Diamondeye

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

unvote, vote: Chaotix

EXPLAIN THIS VOTE. :stare:

Csargo
05-13-2011, 22:15
unvote, vote: Chaotix

EXPLAIN THIS VOTE. :stare:

I don't think that's how it works.

Chaotix
05-13-2011, 23:03
unvote, vote: Chaotix

EXPLAIN THIS VOTE. :stare:

Err... your vote was already on me.

So I don't feel threatened enough to comply with your demands.

You want me to explain it? MAKE ME BELIEVE YOU. :smug:

johnhughthom
05-13-2011, 23:07
unvote, vote: Chaotix

EXPLAIN THIS VOTE. :stare:

You want somebody to explain your own vote to you? My goodness, you really have managed to fool everybody into thinking you know what you're doing in this mafia lark.

Diamondeye
05-14-2011, 00:16
Is it your opinion that liars should be kept alive?

False dichotomy. You don't have to lynch every liar or we'd be in over our ears.

Man I am on a get-lynched streak here :(

GeneralHankerchief
05-14-2011, 02:00
Voting closed.

GeneralHankerchief
05-14-2011, 02:16
Clinton, Iowa
Day 3

As was probably to be expected, the trapped campers still had not yet come together three days in. Nobody could blame them, of course - it takes a certain type of individually-inclined personality to choose a road life after all. In their world, self-sufficiency meant survival. You had to learn to not depend on anybody, since the possibilities were great that they wouldn't be there for you the next day.

However, now, things had changed. For once, self-sufficiency would get them nowhere, as only banding together and working as a cohesive group would get them to survive. As of Day 3, though, the campers showed no real signs of knowing that lesson. Voting was all over the place, with a full nine campers receiving at least one vote. The two leading candidates at the end of the day, Diamondeye and Chaotix, receiving a minuscule three votes each. Such close totals, where there was no clear favorite, only served to put everyone else on edge. When only two votes separated you from oblivion, you weren't in a good place.

Even during the runoff round, the campers were still bitterly divided, with votes flying in seemingly equal numbers in both directions. Diamondeye always seemed to be consistently ahead, and he began eying the largest log in the fire with some sweat. However, Chaotix always seemed to pull even with him, causing them both to sweat excessively. At the end of the day, though, the totals came back: Diamondeye by two. Chaotix would live to see another day.

Diamondeye started slowly, unconsciously, edging away from the log that would be his fate. Zack's mistake had been to focus on the wielder of the log, not the log itself. Diamondeye would not be taken by surprise, he would meet his death in the face and be prepared for -

He crumpled to the ground in a heap. This time, they had used the second largest log in the fire.

Day 3a tally:

Diamondeye: 7 (khaan, B_Ray, Csargo, Reenk, TheLastDays, Andres, Chaotix) :skull:
Chaotix: 5 (ATPG, JHT, Visorslash, Scienter, Diamondeye)

Not voting: 1 (God Emperor)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 12
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
Reenk Roink
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata
robbiecon

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack
Diamondeye

It is now Night 3. This phase will last for 23 hours and 45 minutes.

Askthepizzaguy
05-14-2011, 08:10
NOOOOOOOO Diamondeye! My scum partner of scum partners! The only one with diamonds as big as.... well, nearly as big as..... errr, in fact.... vastly smaller than mine!
Tonight is just not your night (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053312720&viewfull=1#post2053312720), buddy! :bounce:

Diamondeye
05-14-2011, 13:04
NOOOOOOOO Diamondeye! My scum partner of scum partners! The only one with diamonds as big as.... well, nearly as big as..... errr, in fact.... vastly smaller than mine!
Tonight is just not your night (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?134731-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening-Game-Thread&p=2053312720&viewfull=1#post2053312720), buddy! :bounce:

Indeed, it isn't! Perhaps I should give my upcoming large some attention now that my desk is cleaned out!

Also, this game is just fluke-y for lynching me but you have to admit that my move in a certain other game proves that my diamonds are, in fact, not vastly smaller than yours :laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy
05-14-2011, 17:11
Indeed, it isn't! Perhaps I should give my upcoming large some attention now that my desk is cleaned out!

Also, this game is just fluke-y for lynching me but you have to admit that my move in a certain other game proves that my diamonds are, in fact, not vastly smaller than yours :laugh4:

Do not underestimate the power of the diamond cojones.

Also, seriously, at least I tried to save you here. If you're scum, I really hope you're happy about that. :snobby:

Diamondeye
05-14-2011, 19:16
Do not underestimate the power of the diamond cojones.

Also, seriously, at least I tried to save you here. If you're scum, I really hope you're happy about that. :snobby:

I'm happy about it even though I'm not scum. Remember, it says right above my pic: Always Innocent.

GeneralHankerchief
05-15-2011, 02:28
Clinton, Iowa
Night 3

Reenk Roink didn't have any idea of what people did when they went back to their tents for the night. Nor did he have any inkling to find out. A true loner, Reenk didn't really need social company in order to provide satisfaction or fulfillment for him. Instead of clothes, Reenk filled his suitcases mostly with personal effects that defined him: Philosophy books, rare alternate versions of early Pearl Jam CDs, and his prized possession: a portable antenna TV that somehow still worked despite the switchover to digital a few years ago.

You see, even though Reenk had taken to the life of the road, mostly to get away from people, he found out that he couldn't quite get away from hockey and his beloved Detroit Red Wings. So whenever time allowed, he'd find a good lonely spot, turn on his TV, and try to catch the Red Wings game. This was a lot easier to do nowadays, since the Wings were in the playoffs and a lot more games were nationally televised. Who needed people and flaming logs and escaped killers when you had Datsyuk and Zetterberg? Yes, he might very well die soon, but the Wings were well on their way to their 5th Stanley Cup of the modern era, and Nicklas Lidstrom would be sent out as a champion.

However, it was not to be. Last night had been Game 7 of the Western Semifinals, and the Wings had finally been eliminated by the San Jose Sharks thanks to a late goal by Patrick Marleau which more or less iced things. Reenk had screamed out in anguish and fury when this happened, alerting the entire campground and sending them running. They had all thought that this was a kill, but in actuality the kill at that point had already happened. Everybody walked away grumbling about the false alarm, with, once again, no one understanding Reenk Roink.

With no more Red Wings hockey to watch, Reenk turned to... Tampa Bay Lightning hockey. His second team was doing well enough, having taken down the Pittsburgh Penguins and then the Washington Capitals in back-to-back rounds, and now they were facing the hated Boston Bruins, the scourge of professional hockey for longer than anyone could remember. Perhaps there was hope in the world after all, since the Lightning jumped out to a quick 2-0 lead in the first period, and Boston looked simply overmatched. Tampa was threatening again though, and soon enough -

"GOOOOOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!!" Teddy Purcell had scored for the Lightning, making it 3-0 in the first, a nearly insurmountable score. Reenk was thoroughly engrossed, his eyes glued to the TV, his thoughts far away from the campground. He was so entranced by his TV and the hockey game that he didn't even notice a shadowy figure sneaking up behind him, knife out, until he collapsed to the ground, his throat slit. As Reenk lie on the ground bleeding out and breathing his last breaths, a Boston player scored, making it 3-1.

The next day, all of the campers groaned when they did another head count and found yet another one of their number missing. It was back to the work and the fear and the voting. Would this be the day where they finally banded together and credibly dealt with the threat? Only time would tell.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: 11
Yaseikhaan
Visorslash
B_Ray
robbiecon
Csargo
Andres
johnhughthom
Scienter
Askthepizzaguy
TheLastDays
Chaotix

Killed:
Renata
robbiecon
Reenk Roink

Executed:
Who am i?
Zack
Diamondeye

It is now Day 4. This phase will last 23 hours and 30 minutes.

Chaotix
05-15-2011, 06:41
Vote: Scienter

Reenk Roink
05-15-2011, 16:26
Looks like I should have gotten my hands on a car so I could DRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVE out of here...

So happy I live close enough to Canada to pick up the CBC feed. Can't stand Doc Emerick or worse, Jack Edwards.

Good luck town, Mafia suck. At least Zack and DE died so I am satisfied.

Diamondeye
05-15-2011, 17:17
Me and Zack were innocent like lambs Reenk! But it's still a crime to murder the Reenkster.

Askthepizzaguy
05-15-2011, 17:35
Vote: Chaotix

I must insist you die.

Chaotix
05-15-2011, 17:45
Vote: Chaotix

I must insist you die.

Ok, ATPG, I tried to convince myself it was nothing before, but now I am sure of it.

Your playing is off. Sure, you're joking around and all that, but you never decide to just throw a game and vote for whoever you like.

You always vote for who you believe the mafia is.

And today, you are not doing that. Because you know I am not mafia. So that leaves only one option.

Unvote, Vote: Askthepizzaguy

This camp isn't big enough for the two of us.

God Emperor
05-15-2011, 18:39
Helping my scum partner ATPG; Vote: Chaotix.
* I will then later on stab my budy ATPG in the back by lynching him*

TheLastDays
05-15-2011, 23:18
Well, then vote: God Emperor

GeneralHankerchief
05-16-2011, 00:08
Okay, due to low voting activity I'm going to extend the round by 24 hours. Let's just chalk this one up to it being the weekend.

Csargo
05-16-2011, 00:22
Helping my scum partner ATPG; Vote: Chaotix.
* I will then later on stab my budy ATPG in the back by lynching him*

Why wait for later? You could have done it now.

Vote:GE

johnhughthom
05-16-2011, 02:04
Okay, due to low voting activity I'm going to extend the round by 24 hours. Let's just chalk this one up to it being the weekend.

Good stuff, thought I'd missed the phase. I'll read up when I've more time tomorrow and cast a vote then.

B-Wing
05-16-2011, 04:05
Sorry guys, been out of town all weekend, just got back. I'll go back over the replies tomorrow evening, but for now...
vote: Askthepizzaguy

Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2011, 06:59
In case you're wondering, Chaotix, the thing that I am not letting go of is your initial attempt at putting "reasoning" behind your vote to make it appear strong. This is an attempt to get me lynched instead of murdered, and you tried very hard at it. It was all bogus because you dropped it at the first sign of me not being lynched. You weren't serious.

As such, my finger will point at you indefinitely. I already stated, I am willing to die as long as you go with me. You are a scumbag.

Visor
05-16-2011, 07:07
Right then. There's still another log on the fire for you, Chaotix!

Vote: Chaotix

Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2011, 07:19
O RLY?

So you're attacking my vote with a WIFOM argument that defends somebody else?

Unvote, Vote: ATPG

Just what I was looking for.

The part in red is what feels fake to me. You sound oh-so-convinced. Are you?


Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Yes?


Ok,

Unvote, Vote: Visorslash

I don't like self-votes.

No.

The answer is no. You're not convinced. I, on the other hand, am strongly leaning you being full of the scums.

You "don't like" self-votes? That sounds like weaker reasoning than Pizza is scum because he defended God Emperor. You wouldn't drop strong reasoning for weak reasoning.

Visor
05-16-2011, 07:21
And I unvoted that self vote 5 seconds later anyway.

I think he should've died last day.

Andres
05-16-2011, 08:12
Helping my scum partner ATPG; Vote: Chaotix.
* I will then later on stab my budy ATPG in the back by lynching him*

Anyone making such statements should die.

Vote : God Emperor

Scienter
05-16-2011, 12:11
I voted for Vote:Chaotix last time and I'm voting for him again.

johnhughthom
05-16-2011, 12:39
Im going to Vote: God Emperor

Andres
05-16-2011, 15:45
Unvote ; Vote : Scienter

I can't shake this gut feeling. Should do a re-read.

Visorslash, why are you voting Chaotix?

Andres
05-16-2011, 15:45
Sorry guys, been out of town all weekend, just got back. I'll go back over the replies tomorrow evening, but for now...
vote: Askthepizzaguy

Any reason why you are voting ATPG?

seireikhaan
05-16-2011, 18:29
Vote: Scienter

I'm with andres' stomach on this one.

TheLastDays
05-16-2011, 19:47
Andres, I know you didn't ask me but the only reason I haven't voted Chaotix or ATPG (yet) is that I'm not sure who of the two to lynch... I think they both have a point in their "feud" against each other, although apparently one of them is the scum. I just can't make out who it is yet...

Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2011, 22:23
Andres, I know you didn't ask me but the only reason I haven't voted Chaotix or ATPG (yet) is that I'm not sure who of the two to lynch... I think they both have a point in their "feud" against each other, although apparently one of them is the scum. I just can't make out who it is yet...

Not necessarily. Go with whoever you think is the scummiest, don't just pick one of two players who want each other dead.

Basically, what I'm saying is listen to your gut, and lynch Chaotix.

Chaotix
05-16-2011, 23:15
And I'm saying listen to my gut, and lynch ATPG.


Because, I'm hungry.

So... my tummy is rumbling.

For Pizza.

Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2011, 23:28
Chaotix: (4) ATPG, God Emperor, Visorslash, Scienter
God Emperor: (3) TheLastDays, Csargo, JHT
Scienter: (2) Andres, Yaseikhaan
ATPG: (2) Chaotix, B_Ray


When does the round end? This tally is not stable. Chaotix isn't going to leave his vote as-is going into his own possible lynch, and the other top two candidates for lynch are also voting for Chaotix, and they could easily jump ship if the Chaotix wagon changes. In other words, I suspect last-minute shenanigans going to happen. We need something more decisive.

Chaotix wants to vote for Scienter; I also placed an early suspicion on Scienter. Andres has the golden gut. I move off of Chaotix, onto GE or Scienter, and they could easily flip to me. It's a virtual 4-way tie at the moment.

Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2011, 23:48
Okay. I'll make the move, and pray it isn't a stupid one.

Unvote, vote: Scienter

I will murder you tonight, Chaotix.

Chaotix
05-16-2011, 23:56
Okay. I'll make the move, and pray it isn't a stupid one.

Unvote, vote: Scienter

I will murder you tonight, Chaotix.

Assuming you survive the lynch, any smart mafioso would do this, including you.

However, you've given me more ammunition and stronger reasoning by changing your vote.

Not yesterday you were going after me for dropping a vote and going with what you saw as a "weaker case". Are you going to tell me you believe Scienter is more suspicious to you than I am right now? Or is this merely an attempt at self-preservation.

Now, I'm getting a gut feeling on Scienter as well, which is why I started off the round voting that way. But you, Pizza, take the whole pie. My vote stays where it is, and will not be changed until your cheesy guts have been spilled.

GeneralHankerchief
05-17-2011, 00:15
When does the round end?

1 hour and 45 minutes.

-edit- though if I'm early or late to end things, my "voting closed" post trumps what is said here. I'll try to be exact though.

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 00:15
Assuming you survive the lynch, any smart mafioso would do this, including you.

You're darned right I might. However it would be much safer to let you die.


However, you've given me more ammunition and stronger reasoning by changing your vote.

I know I have. A small factor in my decision, as it means the lynch is more likely to end up backfiring on me and that's bad no matter what team I am on.

That said, the tally as it is feels like the mafia are satisfied with it. Which means I am not.


Not yesterday you were going after me for dropping a vote and going with what you saw as a "weaker case". Are you going to tell me you believe Scienter is more suspicious to you than I am right now? Or is this merely an attempt at self-preservation.

I was going to wait until the deadline to see what you would do, but as much as I'd like to, there are only so many lynches left and town is more sluggish in response to mafia moves than mafia are responsive to town moves. If there's going to be a tally switch for any reason, it should be done before the deadline so that people can discuss it, change their minds.

Also, I note that you're dinging me for hypocrisy. I'm allowed to be hypocritical because I'm townie. :tongue2:

I lie, backstab, steal, and constantly do the opposite of what I advise in many different games. Just look at the Animus game, where I advised keeping the tally low, then swung around and advocated a bandwagon on Kagemusha.

I'm more than willing to give you "ammunition" if it serves a purpose.


Now, I'm getting a gut feeling on Scienter as well, which is why I started off the round voting that way. But you, Pizza, take the whole pie. My vote stays where it is, and will not be changed until your cheesy guts have been spilled.

Good on principle, bad here if you're town or if you're mafia. But I applaud your brave promise not to break a three-way tie in your favor. I would be very interested to see you stick to that.

Scienter
05-17-2011, 00:17
Okay. I'll make the move, and pray it isn't a stupid one.

Unvote, vote: Scienter



Not the smartest idea if you're a townie.

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 00:18
Not the smartest idea if you're a townie.

Flinchy flinch flinch flinch.

Oh what impeccable timing you have! :beam:

johnhughthom
05-17-2011, 00:30
What exactly is the case on Scienter? She doesn't seem any different from how she normally plays to me.

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 00:32
What exactly is the case on Scienter? She doesn't seem any different from how she normally plays to me.

Case? Case???

Andres has a gut feeling. I'm more than satisfied with Andres' track record on gut feelings. Beats my analysis 6 days out of the week.

Chaotix
05-17-2011, 00:41
People are voting for Diamondeye just because he's Diamondeye?

Vote: Chaotix. He voted for (dead)Zack so either he's not paying attention or he wants us to think that he's not paying attention...

Here is the case.

A poor vote yesterday; basically finding an excuse to vote for someone (not just because it was on me, rather because it was on stupid-me-voting-for-a-dead person). This is what I voted Scienter for in the beginning of the round.

If you're not going to join me and vote for ATPG, Scienter is the next best choice.

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 00:44
Nice.

I think we can be *fairly* sure Chaotix and Scienter aren't mafia together. Not only have their votes for each other seemed to be genuine, but Chaotix is advocating her death in a position where her death is a very likely scenario.

Diamondeye
05-17-2011, 01:07
It's Scienter and GE. Think about it.

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 01:13
It's Scienter and GE. Think about it.

Possible. It would explain why they aren't voting for each other, even now. Scienter had a chance to switch the vote, but declined. God Emperor is also declining to act. It's possible they either really think Chaotix is guilty, or don't want the other to die.

However, people don't always act in ways you expect them to. It's not a slam-dunk that either one is guilty. I just wanted to see reactions to a tied vote. I found it nifty how quickly Scienter reacted, and how she did. It could be useful later, or not, but it's better than no discussion.

GeneralHankerchief
05-17-2011, 02:00
Voting closed.

GeneralHankerchief
05-17-2011, 02:02
We have a three-way tie! Rather than throw everything out and do a re-vote, I'm just going to extend the round once more.

To make it fair for everyone, the round will now end at 14:00 US Eastern Time. This is 17 hours from now. If the vote is still tied, then I'll be forced to do a sudden-death tiebreaker.

B-Wing
05-17-2011, 02:20
Which players are tied for first?

Csargo
05-17-2011, 03:14
GE, Scienter, and Chaotix I believe

GeneralHankerchief
05-17-2011, 04:28
GE, Scienter, and Chaotix I believe

Correct, each of them have three votes.

B-Wing
05-17-2011, 04:33
OK, unvote; vote: God Emporer because he's been the quietest of the three lately.

Diamondeye
05-17-2011, 10:45
You'll want GE and Scienter up there... If one of them is innocent, B-Ray's a good suspect.

Visor
05-17-2011, 10:47
Vote: God Emperor

Didn't make a joke about you in this thread! ;)

God Emperor
05-17-2011, 11:26
:laugh4: Just kill Chaotix whenever you feel like you have the time

Edit: If it is of any interest, you might want to notice that no one is trying to save me. Not even me ^^ (aside from this post that is :p)

Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2011, 11:54
:laugh4: Just kill Chaotix whenever you feel like you have the time

Edit: If it is of any interest, you might want to notice that no one is trying to save me. Not even me ^^ (aside from this post that is :p)

That's not a good argument for you to live. Pretending not to care about if you live or die is common mafia strategy.

Unvote, vote: God Emperor

God Emperor
05-17-2011, 11:58
and a very honest strategy when I am town ^^ I don't mind being lynched, just focus and Chaotix and.. what is his name *checking* , thelastdays, when I am dead

johnhughthom
05-17-2011, 15:12
Vote: God Emperor

Didn't make a joke about you in this thread! ;)

You'll need to unvote first Visorslash, this is just an extension, not a revote like last time.